- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Hello, Still haven't found a boot disk, and not having a vintage Mac, I can't download an image from the net either. Would someone out there who has one be able to make a copy for me? I can send DSDD disks for the process. The internal drive is 3.5", and I have a 5.25" external as well. Cute little devil -- just want to play with it a bit. Kind regards -- Gary Hildebrand Box 6184 St. Joseph, MO 64506-0184 816-662-2612 or ghldbrd(a)ccp.com

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Proapp 20 HD for Apple II systems?

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

Anyone know anything about the Proapp 20? It appears to be a harddrive that works with Apple IIe, IIc, IIgs or a Mac 512 and Mac Plus. It plugs into either the floppy port or a scsi port. Anyone have any more info on these? Thanks. ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

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Apple IIc+ boot disk for DOS3.3

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

There's a question - since I can't get to the FAQs ATM can anyone tell me which Mac monitor I can use with the ][GS? And the ][c+ for that matter...... > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul R. Santa-Maria [mailto:paulrsm@ameritech.net] > Sent: 06 August 2000 18:28 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Apple IIc+ boot disk for DOS3.3 > > > > > There are, of course, many other features in the ROM; it's just a > matter of > > > digging up the programming info. And (since you have such a late > member of > > > the ][ series) there are also features in the hardware, > such as double- > > > resolution text, low-res, and high-res modes, that the > ROM was never > updated > > > to handle. > > How do you get at these modes? Are they in the IIgs, also? > > > > Speaking of which, can you drive the IIgs graphics chip and > sound chip, > > whatever they're called, from Applesoft? > > The double-resolution text mode is 80-column mode, and can be > turned on > with PR#3. This mode is supported by the ROM. > > The double low-res (twice as wide, not half as wide!) and > double hi-res > modes are not supported by the ROM. You can write BASIC > routines to use > them, but it is much faster to use assembly language routines > called by > BASIC. These modes are also in the Apple IIe and IIc. > > The IIgs has super-res modes with hardware color fill > available. I am not > a IIgs programmer (I use mine as a IIe) but there may be ROM > routines in > the toolbox to support those modes. The same may be true for the IIgs > sound chip. I have seen a BASIC program that used the sound > chip, but all > it did was POKE the data into memory. > > No Apple II has real support for even the built-in speaker in the ROM, > except for the Programmer's Aid #1 option for Integer BASIC > which had tone > routines. > > Paul R. Santa-Maria > Ann Arbor, Michigan USA > paulrsm(a)ameritech.net >

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Commodore 16 Power Supply

by Philip.Belben＠pgen.com

> Hi folks, Hi folks too! It's over four months since I was last on Classiccmp, and I almost feel I need a delurk! > I recently stumbled across a Commodore 16 power supply. I'd like to keep it > on hand as a spare. But I'm a little worried. The output is specified as > 9.5VDC, but when I measured with my DMM, I got 14VDC! I didn't know if it > needs a load to bring it down, or if the PS is just shot. > > Any thoughts? My thoughts: These beasts use 5V for the logic, and somewhere around 9V (not critical) for tape motors and things. A 9.5V power supply is bound to be unregulated (why regulate it to a voltage that's not critical when all you're going to do is regulate it again to the voltage that is). Recent threads have pointed out Commie machines of that date with regulators on the board. And finally, the two voltages in the PET (the Commie with which I'm familiar) are 5V (regulated) and 9V (unregulated) (FWIW, the PET 8296D just took 5V and 12V from a SMPSU, but that was a special case - an internal disk drive wanted 12V fairly well regulated for motors) So I am 99.99% certain that it just needs a load to bring it down. To test it, the easiest load to use is an auto bulb. A stop lamp / indicator bulb is rated about 2A at 12V (well, 21W is 1.75A). Stick that on the output - the bulb should survive if it remains up at 14V, but I expect you'll see it come down to about 10V. Just my 2d worth. Philip. ________________________ Disclaimer Notice ____________________________ This E-mail message is private and confidential and should only be read by those to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, reproduction, modification or publication of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please delete the message from your computer and destroy any copies. This message is not intended to be relied upon by any person without subsequent written confirmation of its contents. This company therefore disclaims all responsibility and accepts no liability of any kind which may arise from any person acting, or refraining from acting, upon the contents of the message without having had subsequent written confirmation. If you have received this communication in error, or if any problems occur in transmission please notify us immediately by telephone on +44 (0)24 76 424000

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Commodore 16 Power Supply

by retro＠retrobits.com

Hi folks, I recently stumbled across a Commodore 16 power supply. I'd like to keep it on hand as a spare. But I'm a little worried. The output is specified as 9.5VDC, but when I measured with my DMM, I got 14VDC! I didn't know if it needs a load to bring it down, or if the PS is just shot. Any thoughts? - Earl

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New finds: HP9825 etc.

by schoedel＠kw.igs.net

Found an HP85 and HP9825, both in working order, except presumably for the tape drives. The latter is an HP9285A with the full-travel keyboard, and a full set of ROMs: string/adv. programming; 9872A plotter / general i/o; matrix; and 9885 disk. No interfaces though; I went back to the du^H^Hstore to look, but they were nowhere to be found. Question: Are the interfaces the same as those used on the HP9845? Elsewhere, (perhaps slightly off-topic), bought a Litton/Monroe 1655 programmable desktop calculator (with nixie-tube display). Cracked case and a couple of missing keys; haven't powered it on yet. Also got a 6800 evaluation board, MEK6800D2, with hex keypad & LED display. -- Kevin Schoedel schoedel(a)kw.igs.net

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Sony CPD 1302

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Hello, I was given this monitor at the Springfield hamfest. According to the back panel it is an analog RGB with a DB9 female input. Does anyone out there have a pinout on that plug, or shall I attempt to contact Sony on this one?? I am presuming that it is NTSC/CGA scan frequencies. Kind regards -- Gary Hildebrand Box 6184 St. Joseph, MO 64506-0184 816-662-2612 or ghldbrd(a)ccp.com

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Vic-20 problems

by Marion.Bates＠dartmouth.edu

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Great Finds this past week and a half

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

John didst scribe: > First got a call from a gentleman in Ohio that he had a model 4 TRS 80 > he wanted to give me along with some other items after he read the > article about me collecting in his local paper there. The machine and > other items were here MN with his son. After phone contact > with the son How did you manage to get in the local paper? That's a great form of advertising.... Things I picked up this weekend: Adman Grandstand 5000 Pong, boxed Adman Grandstand SD070 cart pong, boxed Adman Grandstand VEC (aka Fairchild Channel F II), boxed Micro Genius IQ501 (Super Famicom clone), boxed 2 boxed Atari 2600jrs, with a shedload of games Boxed Grandstand Astro Wars tabletop half a dozen Vic-20 carts Issue 2 Spectrum in DK'Tronics keyboard enclosure Not bad for ukp25!

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3 Days in San Jose, hits/pits

by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

>the HSC sign... > >HSC, off the central expressway, no idea how I got to >it. Very much like >the first two places, too tidy, too >retail. This isn't really that bad, I >mean if I lived in >the area and needed something between swapmeet times I >just might head over to one of these places to get that >needed item, but >nothing got me excited during the >visit. Some prices were comically high, >but some were OK >if you needed the item. Big collection of data books to > >read with free coffee over in the corner too. Yeah, I know what you mean. I recently took a trip to a used computer place in Witchita that wanted *way* too much for their stuff ($65 for a refurbished Apple/Conner 2.5" 60 Mb SCSI hard drive? I could probably find one for $6, just for the cost of shipping) >General trip notes, WOW have prices gone up. Gas was >$2.19/gal, which is >about $0.40 higher than Orange, CA, >food prices were also higher, even in >supermarkets on >some items (bottled water, but not soda). Rooms were >outrageous, we paid $300/night staying at the Holiday >Inn Crowne Plaza >(very nice, but an older work in >progress), and MUCH worse a rathole >(beatup old >motel/apt on its first leg of fix up) on the east side >of San >Jose called the Whitehouse Inn was $102 when a >page at 7PM forced us to >stay Thursday night. Much >better rooms at slightly better prices were >available >earlier in the day, but by 6PM they were gone. I hate to make you jealous or anything, but here in Texas it's right about at $1.35-$1.45 for cheap grade gas. Also, If you are ever in that area again, look for a hotel chain called MicroTel, (No, this is not a company that made computer modems in the 80's!) you will be surprised at how much you have to pay, as well as the facilities. ____________________________________________________________ David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian. Home page: http://www.geocities.com/netsurfer_x1/ Computer Collection: "Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801. "Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II. "Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer. "Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable. "Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3, Disto 512K RAM board. "Boombox": Sharp PC-7000. ____________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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Apple IIc (not IIC+) details

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated Mon, 7 Aug 2000 2:19:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Richard Erlacher" <richard(a)idcomm.com> writes: > While there seems to be a fair amount of information about the older apples, > i.e. ][, ][+, and the IIc+, I've been unable to find any menaingful > information on the web about the plain-old IIc. It has an external > connector to a floppy disk drive, but I've found no information about the > drive itself. The IIc+ has an external "intelligent" drive, and I'd like to > know what that means, in this case, not to mention that I'd like to know > about the "intelligent" hard disk that attaches to the IIc+ via that same > connector, though perhaps not using the same protocol. > > There's also little definitive information about the memory usage for I/O > and how (and how closely) they emulated the ][+ slot usage. They've > apparently memory mapped the keyboard, so I would also like to know where in > the memory map the keyboard lives. > > I'm considering cutting a hole in the side of the box to accomodate some > sort of I/O channel. I understand that there was an expander available from > a third party, but have little information about that. The slot I'd make in > the box would accomodate a 40-pin, or perhaps 50-pin inline cable connector. > Since I'd prefer to make an internally buffered I/O channel as opposed, > simply, to bringing out the CPU's signals, it would be useful to have some > information. > > Any suggestions? > > Dick > sounds like what you really want is a laser128. it's 99% apple compatible (the 1% was the apple version of aol which wouldnt connect right) and it also has an i/o connector on the left side which is really just a regular old slot mapped to slot5 IIRC. I ran a disk ][ controller off there for a total of 3 drives. any other card *should* work in the slot also.

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Apple II FAQ

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

I'm full of questions this morning :) Speaking of external floppies, can I use a Mac 800K external on the ][GS? I really want to get it running this week if I get the chance, but its driveless ATM. a > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:richard@idcomm.com] > Sent: 06 August 2000 21:21 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Apple II FAQ > > > Does anybody have specifics on the data format/modulation > used on the Apple > IIc external disk drive port? I read that the IIc+ uses an > intelligent > drive and that suggests that the data appearing on the > interface may not be > in the usual APPLE-II GCR format. Of course, the IIc+ may > have yet another > protocol, so the spec's from the IIc+ may not be what I need. >

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HEY, How do I change where it goes...

by mbg＠world.std.com

Allison, you could always setup a .forward in your world account to your new bellatlantic account... Megan

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HEY, How do I change where it goes...

by allisonp＠world.std.com

Need a ppointer to info on changing where the list-server send mail to. I'm moving to ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net as a DSL hook up. The old address allisonp(a)world.std.com will still be active for several months though I'd prefer if everyone uses the other. Allison

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Vax 4000-200 for free, contact address in post

by mbg＠world.std.com

Please contact the person listed at the end of this newsgroup post, not me... - - - - - I also have a working VAX 4000-200, 32MB RAM, CMD SCSI disk controller, TU80 tape drive, CXY08 8 port serial and CXY16 16 port serial boards. Rack mounted BA213 chassis, and TU80 is rack mounted too. Cables for CXY boards. I will throw in a couple Micropolis 650MB SCSI drives too. There is a TF86 tape drive that has a problem, may be broken tape header. Extra DELQA ethernet board too. This machine was running when shut down 6 months ago. The catch? You have to pick it up in Las Vegas NV, and no I won't give away just the boards. I would rather it all goes to someone who wants to preserve an old VAX (I got a 4000-90 now, no space for the 4200). Along with the 4000-200 there is another rack mount BA213 with a VAX 3500 CPU (KA650), 32MB 3rd party memory (doesn't work in the 4000-200 but just fine in the 3500), CMD SCSI controller, dual DELQAs, and a TK50. Same deal, it's your's if you haul it off, and I believe I have an RZ58 (980MB) drive for it too. It was running when shut down 6 months ago. Now if someone has a spare 200Mhz CPU or memory card for an Alpha 2100 200/4 (what used to be called the A500MP) I would love to trade. Interested? Boss says give it away or throw it away. Send me an email if you want to drive a truck to Vegas for a quick vacation and get some clean goodies for the trip home. Jack Peacock peacock(a)simconv.com - - - - -

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Great Finds this past week and a half

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

First got a call from a gentleman in Ohio that he had a model 4 TRS 80 he wanted to give me along with some other items after he read the article about me collecting in his local paper there. The machine and other items were here MN with his son. After phone contact with the son I went over to the house and picked up the stuff. It was great a working 64k model 4 with 2 FD that both read fine and tons of business software and games, with some the highlights being Sublogic Flight Simulator, Paddle Pinball, TRSDOS Ver6, Viscalc Ver 02.09.02, LS.Dos upgrade kit to 6.3, pfs:file and report in boxes, TRS-80 Renum Line program, TRSCROSS a utility for IBM PC that reads and writes specific TRS-80 formats, QuikPro + II Automatic program writer, and many more titles on both 51/4 FD (over 55+) and cassettes (over 50+). There were over 20+ manuals with this lot and some them are really cool, like the TRS-80 Pocket Handbook by William Barden Jr. great read. Also got a working DMP100 printer and a VS100 Voice Synthesizer with manual and box it came in when purchased. This unit works with the Model 1, III, and 4. All together the amount of items given to me filled four notebook pages listing the items and sn, pn and other information about each. Other items from this week: 1. Over 20 mousepads and mice for the collection, one mouse I had not seen before was a commodore C04140 date 08/90 has a unusual shape to it. 2. Dynatech Codewriter for the Commodore64. 3. Half a dozen computer buttons for the collection, from intel, drafix, creative lab, and microsoft. 4. Some cartridges for the Atari 2600 5. Some old Burroughs and Sperry notebooks full various spec's 6. Mits 4.1 Boot Loader cassette tape - New unopened 7. Over 25 books to add to the library 8. Apple PowerBooks 100 that needs a little body work but powers up fine and came with tons of extras like ext 3.5 FDD, SCSI cable, leather carrying case, manuals and more. 9. Amiga OS 3.1 in the box with diskettes and manuals but missing the roms. 10. Amiga Dos 1.3 in the box complete with manuals. 11. Sun SPACStation 1 model 147 ServCode 4/60 loaded but does not seem to work, I get nothing on the screen when unit is turned on but the fan works. 12. Tons of cables to sort out and label. 13. SuperGraphix by Xetec mounted on wooden block 14. Epyx Fast Loader for C64 15. APROSPAND 64 by APROTEK 16. Amstrad PPC640 complete and working fine. 17. Many more that I can not list that are 7 to 4 years old. Keep on computing John Keys

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Apple IIc+ boot disk for DOS3.3

by paulrsm＠ameritech.net

> > There are, of course, many other features in the ROM; it's just a matter of > > digging up the programming info. And (since you have such a late member of > > the ][ series) there are also features in the hardware, such as double- > > resolution text, low-res, and high-res modes, that the ROM was never updated > > to handle. > How do you get at these modes? Are they in the IIgs, also? > > Speaking of which, can you drive the IIgs graphics chip and sound chip, > whatever they're called, from Applesoft? The double-resolution text mode is 80-column mode, and can be turned on with PR#3. This mode is supported by the ROM. The double low-res (twice as wide, not half as wide!) and double hi-res modes are not supported by the ROM. You can write BASIC routines to use them, but it is much faster to use assembly language routines called by BASIC. These modes are also in the Apple IIe and IIc. The IIgs has super-res modes with hardware color fill available. I am not a IIgs programmer (I use mine as a IIe) but there may be ROM routines in the toolbox to support those modes. The same may be true for the IIgs sound chip. I have seen a BASIC program that used the sound chip, but all it did was POKE the data into memory. No Apple II has real support for even the built-in speaker in the ROM, except for the Programmer's Aid #1 option for Integer BASIC which had tone routines. Paul R. Santa-Maria Ann Arbor, Michigan USA paulrsm(a)ameritech.net

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Palasm?

by Jgzabol＠aol.com

I have been using PALASM during the last 20 years, and only last year swicthed to Abel. I still consider PALASM one of the best tools around, since it allows me to program at the gate-level, not at a logic level removed by many layers from the actual gate level as more modern tools force you to do. I also have a running copy installed on one of my computers. Just drop any questions you have. Maybe you send me privately your PALASM file, and I look through it ? Regards John G. Zabolitzky

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springfield hamfest goodies . . . and more

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Hello, Finally found a good Commodore 128 for yours truly there. Is there in our midst a person who might have the cp/m boot disk for one? Or point me in the right direction? I was even given a Sony CPD-1320, so I'm sitting pretty good now. There's an electronic surplus company that is also located there -- I went up to peruse it and found in the front window a complete Rockwell Aim-65 developer, including keybaord, and eprom burner attached. And some sort of off-brand computer with two external style 8" floppy drives. by the name I know it is a 6800 based machine of some sort. I will be calling back there later on to get the straight skinny on that. I'll post the info if any of you might be interested. Kind regards -- Gary Hildebrand Box 6184 St. Joseph, MO 64506-0184 816-662-2612 or ghldbrd(a)ccp.com

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Interesting item on eBay web site item#400900863: HP 9895A Dual Disc Drive

by jlwest＠tseinc.com

I noticed this item on Epay. It's not in a section most people probably look at, and I thought someone here might be interested in this. Jay West Title of item: HP 9895A Dual Disc Drive Seller: steve(a)symmetrycomputers.com Starts: Aug-04-00 09:14:45 PDT Ends: Aug-07-00 09:14:45 PDT Price: Starts at $26.79 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400900863 Item Description: HP 9895A Dual Disc Drive HP 9895A Dual Disc Drive HP 9895A Dual Disc Drive - This is a Hewlett Packard flexible dual disk drive - some probing found out that this drive is compatible with the HP125 system. It has one 'HPIB' port in the back and a controller bus port. It even powers on! Not much more information could be found on this product, but if you think it could be useful for you or if you're just plain curious go ahead and bid on it! Does not include software, cables, or documentation. 30-Day Warranty. All information we have on this item is included in this description. For more information please contact the manufacturer. Buyer prepays with money order, PayPal, or eBay's BillPoint plus $24.50 for S/H and Insurance in Continental U.S. (excluding Alaska). For other areas contact us for shipping costs. California residents add 7.75% sales tax on final bid. Click here for a complete explanation of our payment and shipping terms. Please read this BEFORE placing a bid. Thank you. BUY WITH CONFIDENCE from an established computer reseller. Click here for a complete explanation of our Warranty Policies. Please read this BEFORE placing a bid. Thank you. Visit our web site at www.symmetrycomputers.com If you need to contact us you may do so at Symmetry Computers . Copyright © 2000 by Symmetry Computers MAD Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at http://www.ebay.com

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Paging---Kevin McQuiggin

by rcini＠optonline.net

Sorry for the intrusion...Kevin, if you're out there, shoot me an e-mail. I have a question about the Highgate server. Thanks for the bandwidth... Rich

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11/73 control panel on Epay

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Of course, the only valuable thing about it is that it has the damn near impossible to find model number medallion on it... I wish I could find an 11/83 one, and a VAXstation II/GPX one.. Will J ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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Paging Doug Quebbman (was Re: Slightly OT: OS/2 2.1 for sale/trade/free (fwd))

by vaxman＠uswest.net

Doug, My email to you bounced... clint ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 07:24:39 -0400 From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)TheEstopinalGroup.com> To: vaxman(a)uswest.net Subject: Undeliverable: Re: Slightly OT: OS/2 2.1 for sale/trade/free Your message To: dhquebbman(a)theestopinalgroup.com; root(a)bony.umtec.com; hans.franke(a)mch20.sbs.de Subject: Re: Slightly OT: OS/2 2.1 for sale/trade/free Sent: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:30:25 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): dhquebbman(a)theestopinalgroup.com on Fri, 4 Aug 2000 07:24:34 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=The Estopinal Gr;l=TEGNTSERVER0008041124Q2B4LZRK MSEXCH:IMS:The Estopinal Group:TEGJEFF:TEGNTSERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient

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HP 1631D logic analyzer help

by jwest＠mppw.com

Anyone familiar with an HP 1631D logic analyzer/scope? I just got one used (with pods and grabbers)... no manual yet, so I'm shooting in the dark on this. There's a selftest dip switch on the back. If I set it and power up, the screen says... ------------ Ram OK Rom OK Acquisition OK Analog Error: 21 00 00 Reset back panel switch to........ ------------- I talked to the company I bought it from - they're not familiar with the unit but said they'd gladly send me a different one if mine was bad so I'm not worried about that. However, I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if this really indicates a problem or does the selftest expect a probe to be connected or something (nothing is connected to it now). Any ideas? On a different note... HP quotes the manual for this unit at $72.00USD. Would anyone have one I can borrow and copy for less? Please reply to the list or to west(a)tseinc.com, not this address. Thanks! Jay West

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Music Performances from dot matrix printers! This group is l ooking for some old printers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Check out this site which I found through slashdot.org. An > interesting use of those old beasts as musical instruments. > > http://www.sat.qc.ca/the_user/dotmatrix/en/intro.html > > And I thought using printers for music went out with the old > line printers of the (50's? and ) 60's! :-) Surely you jest! We were playing "Row-Row-Row Your Boat" on our Dataproducts LPM300 well into the 1980s... In fact, I have the "music" on the [dead] Prime at home, just no line printer to play it on! -dq

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Going offline for a while

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

I'm frantically finishing the last of the projects at work so I can execute the "Getting The Hell Out Of Here" manuever. To those members of the list with whom I have active dialogs (PET parts, Amiga docs, Cisco ROMs...), I will be away from e-mail for two weeks. I'll pick up where I left off when I return. Later, -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

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Stupid DOS tricks-redirecting console

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: It's been a long time since I've banged around pure DOS, so I can't remember all of its tricks. Here's what I want to do. I want to occasionally hook a terminal to a small 486 SBC/data collector which is running "headless." I seem to remember that the console I/O can be redirected to a COM port with a command like "MODE COM1:=CON" or something like that. I'm not at home now, so I can't try it, but am I on the right track? Will that redirect both screen and keyboard I/O? Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

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Stupid DOS tricks-redirecting console

by PasserM＠umkc.edu

I think you're thinking of the CTTY command. IIRC, just CTTY COM1: after you've set the port parameters with MODE. --Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Cini, Richard Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 8:39 AM To: 'ClassCompList' Subject: Stupid DOS tricks-redirecting console Hello, all: It's been a long time since I've banged around pure DOS, so I can't remember all of its tricks. Here's what I want to do. I want to occasionally hook a terminal to a small 486 SBC/data collector which is running "headless." I seem to remember that the console I/O can be redirected to a COM port with a command like "MODE COM1:=CON" or something like that. I'm not at home now, so I can't try it, but am I on the right track? Will that redirect both screen and keyboard I/O? Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

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Stupid DOS tricks-redirecting console

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Cini, Richard" <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> wrote: > "headless." I seem to remember that the console I/O can be redirected to a > COM port with a command like "MODE COM1:=CON" or something like that. I'm > not at home now, so I can't try it, but am I on the right track? Will that You are thinking of the "ctty" command. "ctty com1" should do what you want. -Frank McConnell

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Lt. Kernal

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

Thanks to a generous seller, I'm now the proud owner of a * Lt. Kernal 20MB hard drive (Commodore) * host adaptor that connects the drive to the 64's expansion port * port muxer allowing multiple Commodores to be networked to one drive * billions of copies of the manual (whew!) * sysgen disk The problem is the installation. You have to find these cables that connect to a 2-pin jumper on one side and certain pins on the Commodore motherboard on the other with a clip. Does anyone have, or know where I can get, these types of cables? The clip I've seen, but I don't know where I'd find the little two-hole female jacks that connect up to the pins on the HA. Anyone know what I'm talking about? (hopeful :-) -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! ------------------------------------

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Subject: Re: Scanning microfiche? (Long)

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

> Most scanners have a non-reflective black pad on the back side. If > you put something reflective behind (a mirror?) the transparency, > the light will go through and be reflected back. A potential > problem is the reflection from the front side of the transparency. A much bigger problem than that exists. If you put a mirror on a Xerox machine, time as we know it will stop! Tim.

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FW: Another FREE Working Vax 4000-200 and 3500

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Anyone up for a VAX rescue in Las Vegas? If so, contact the author of the attached message. Nice equipment being offered! -=-=- <snip> -=-=- In article <1afi5.8660$GS1.163272(a)news-west.usenetserver.com>, you say... > Path: news.uswest.net!news-out.uswest.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!howland.erols.net!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!cyclone1.usenetserver.com!news-west.usenetserver.com.POSTED!not-for-mail > From: "Jack Peacock" <peacock(a)simconv.com> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro,comp.sys.dec > References: <9ekhos0urqlvn47uhn6obaqvq8j9bui2bi(a)4ax.com> > Subject: Another FREE Working Vax 4000-200 and 3500 > Lines: 28 > Organization: Simco > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 > Message-ID: <1afi5.8660$GS1.163272(a)news-west.usenetserver.com> > X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers > X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly > X-Complaints-To: support(a)usenetserver.com > NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 10:17:33 EDT > Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:17:17 -0700 > Xref: news-out.uswest.net comp.sys.dec.micro:1211 comp.sys.dec:11530 > > I also have a working VAX 4000-200, 32MB RAM, CMD SCSI disk controller, > TU80 tape drive, CXY08 8 port serial and CXY16 16 port serial boards. > Rack mounted BA213 chassis, and TU80 is rack mounted too. Cables for > CXY boards. I will throw in a couple Micropolis 650MB SCSI drives too. > There is a TF86 tape drive that has a problem, may be broken tape > header. Extra DELQA ethernet board too. This machine was running when > shut down 6 months ago. > > The catch? You have to pick it up in Las Vegas NV, and no I won't give > away just the boards. I would rather it all goes to someone who wants > to preserve an old VAX (I got a 4000-90 now, no space for the 4200). > > Along with the 4000-200 there is another rack mount BA213 with a VAX > 3500 CPU (KA650), 32MB 3rd party memory (doesn't work in the 4000-200 > but just fine in the 3500), CMD SCSI controller, dual DELQAs, and a > TK50. Same deal, it's your's if you haul it off, and I believe I have > an RZ58 (980MB) drive for it too. It was running when shut down 6 > months ago. > > Now if someone has a spare 200Mhz CPU or memory card for an Alpha 2100 > 200/4 (what used to be called the A500MP) I would love to trade. > > Interested? Boss says give it away or throw it away. Send me an email > if you want to drive a truck to Vegas for a quick vacation and get some > clean goodies for the trip home. > Jack Peacock > peacock(a)simconv.com > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner/Head Honcho, Blue Feather Technologies (http://www.bluefeathertech.com) kyrrin [a-t] bluefeathertech {d=o=t} com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma)

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Radio Shack Wire-Wrapping Tool

by dcoward＠pressstart.com

"Richard Erlacher" <richard(a)idcomm.com> said: >What??? They've got 'em again??? I'd best get down there and snag a couple! >Those are among a very few decent items they've had in the 25 years or so >since I first visited RS. It has a wire stripper in the handle, IIRC. >That's one of the handiest tools I've had. It is quite capable of producing >highly serviceable wraps, yet doesn't require you to mess up your circuit. What happened, did everyone throw away their electric wire wraping guns??? I still have mine. :-> With it's power cord it's too big to misplace, what I keep losing is the unwrapping tool. Does this tool (P/N: 276-1570A) have a unwrapping tool at one end?? "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> said: >(I was dumbfounded to find someone that more or less knew what I was >talking about). I was just in a Radio Shack to pick up two sets of mono phono plugs (earphone,microphone,remote) to build my own Sorcerer dual cassette cable. Now I remembered that on cassette recorders, the earphone and the microphone plug are the same size and the remote is smaller. But I couldn't remember the sizes, so since the saleman was in my face to help, I ask if he could show me a cassette recorder. I wanted to compare the size of the jacks to the plugs. He show me several, they only had earphone jacks. I said don't you have any cassette recorders? It took him a couple of minutes to find one, but it had no remote jack!!! All this time, he kept asking "what is it you want to record", and I would say "computer data". Ten second seconds later he would ask again. In between he would say "Oh, we would not have anything like that!" Again I scolded myself for going to Radio Shack without knowing exactly what I wanted. So if you have a cassette recorder with a remote jack, hang on to it, "it's a good thing". --Doug =================================================== Doug Coward dcoward(a)pressstart.com (work) Sr Software Engineer mranalog(a)home.com (home) Press Start Inc. http://www.pressstart.com Sunnyvale,CA Visit the new Analog Computer Museum and History Center at http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog ===================================================

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Subject: Re: Scanning microfiche? (Long)

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Thoughts on drum scanners for scanning microfiche. The best scanners are supposed to be drum scanners. ***WARNING more than you ever want to know about film scanners*** I was once approached by a printing prepress company that used drum scanners that wanted to diversify and scan 14 X 17 inch x-ray film for teleradiology. Here is a little of what they said about drum scanners. 1. They were accustomed to images that were each 1-6 GB. 2. They do the printing of the "slicks" inside the Sunday papers. 3. Each color is on a separate negative. 4. Three colors and black. 5. They use about 3000-8000 dpi, real not interpolated resolution. 6. The negative film is mounted on a clear glass tube. 7. There is a standard light source inside the tube. 8. The tube spins on air bearings and a detector system progresses along the length of the tube measuring the light transmittance of each point in the negative. 9. Transmittance is much more accurate than reflectance. 10. This is not a rapid process. However it is very accurate. 11. Similar systems are used for scanning aerial photographs and magazine printing negatives. 12. Mounting the negative on the drum is very important, any skew will distort the image when the colors are overlaid. This step is very time consuming. 13. I looked into building a simpler version, and determined that the higher the speed of the scan the lower the quality. We needed speed and high quality 14. Now if you want a current model SCSI scanner that could scan microfiche, I suggest a mammography film scanner. High resolution and relatively speedy, however high cost. The shape of the little microcalcifications in a mammogram are very hard to see with anything less than 10 micron spot size scanner. The images are about 5K X 5K over a 8 X 10 inch area. Other scanning systems. Dupont made a laser scanning system for x-ray films, that was the size of a washing machine, about 8 years ago that used a laser beam and would scan a 14 X 17 inch film in 10 seconds and produced a 4K X 4K image. You dropped in the film and the image was scanned and then the film dropped out. However it took the PDP-11 controlling the scanner about 1 minute to transfer the image to a MicroVAX II which then transferred the image via decnet to another MicroVAX II controlling a display. Lots of failure points, the hardware was solid, the software was unable to detect and retry simple timeouts. Especially neat when trying to send images across Kansas on POTS lines during spring weather. Scanners for aperture cards may be another option. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu All scanned out.

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Final tally from the VAX fairy

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

* There are also four "Avalon" boards * which are quad width, have a Mot 88K * processor on them, something like a * 4MB daughter card, one edge connector * (26 pin) and a couple of LEDs. No clue * what these do. Avalon made Q-bus and Unibus co-processors for special applications. As of a couple of years ago, you could get Unibus Alpha CPU boards from them, if your wallet was thick enough :-). * A couple of Sigma Q-bus extenders (labels inside say "do not put a CPU in * this rack" Because they're serpentine ABAB all the way through. If you put a CPU board with PMI stuff on its CD slots, those PMI signals get mixed with the Q-bus signals and things don't work. At worst, the magic smoke comes out. [Kennedy 9400] *for most of its life. Tony or anyone else, is there a way to power this up *without connecting it up and seeing if it can load a tape? Yeah, turn it on, put in a tape, hit load! *I've also got a Emulex quad width board that looks like an SMD controller, *part number is: QD3510206. Yeah, that's one of their later SMD controllers. Pretty smart - IIRC it actually has a 68020 on-board! Tim.

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HP82161 tape repairs and failure modes.

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Yes. The HP pad is felt-covered foam from the looks of things, but plain > felt might well work well enough to get the data off the tape (which, > honestly, is all I care about at the moment). > > Next job is to find suitable felt. The stuff sold by craft shops is too > thin. Maybe a musical instrument repairer place or something? Since the tape itself is the same size as that of a compact casstte(tm), might I suggest butchering am otherwise un-needed unit, and slice the pad off the comparable leaf spring? As to the proper cement to use, I leave that to you... regards, -dq

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HP82161 tape repairs and failure modes.

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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PDP-11/34 & RK05 Questions

by djg＠drs-esg.com

> On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, David Gesswein wrote: > > When I first spin up the pack I run a program which quickly seeks seeks > > through each track and then repeats. > >... > > Aaron Nabil: > I'd routinely (on other drives, not specifically an RK05) kill the servo > and manually move the head actuator across the disk to do the same thing. > Watch out on the RK05, the power fail battery seems to still unload the heads on power fail even if that switch is off. If your finger is in the way the head positioner will win. Never put your finger/tools where unexpeced motion can get it (insert all the other obvious warning here). Also if you flip the switch back on when the heads are loaded the servo can get confused and go full steam ahead to the end of travel. This didn't seem to harm anything but did make me jump. A quick snap of the switch may help prevent this but I didn't try to verify.

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More on computers avail in Portland, Oregon

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Just a real quick FYI for everyone that has sent me a message about the computers I'm wanting to get rid of. A combo of real life and work has just kicked in with a vengence, I don't think I'm going to have time to go through and look at the messages until next week sometime. Basically just wanted people to know that I'm not ignoring them. But if it wasn't for remote access to my mail, I wouldn't even be seeing them till next week... Zane

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Analog computer available in Tuebingen,Germany

by mranalog＠home.com

I received this email this morning. ============ Begin Paste ============ "Dear Sir, I will soon take a new position at the University of T"ubingen, Germany. The department has still an analog computer build by "Electronic Associates Inc.", Type EAI 2000 which was purchased in the mid seventies and seems to be ready to work. The original handbooks are also available. I have no further use for this device and therefore I am trying to find a museum or a collector who is interested in this machine. Any suggestions would be welcome." =========== End Paste =============== This computer is located at the Max-Planck-Institutes in Tuebingen, about 40 km from Stuttgart. I don't have any information about this model, so I have no idea how large this computer may be. I'm leaving it up to intereted parties to check this out. If someone in Germany is interested in this computer or is willing to check it out and arrange shipping for someone else, please contact me. I'll pass your name along and send you the email address. I'm hoping to just pass one name along, hopefully someone local. But if you are interested but not local, email me anyway. You maybe you will be the closest. This may be a decktop unit, but I really doubt it. In the 70's, EAI was moving more to hybrid computers, so this computer MAYBE one that can be interfaced to a digital computer, I just don't know. I don't have any interest in this computer because of the cost of shipping to California. --Doug ==================================================== Doug Coward dcoward(a)pressstart.com (work) Sr. Software Eng. mranalog(a)home.com (home) Press Start Inc. http://www.pressstart.com Sunnyvale,CA Curator Analog Computer Museum and History Center http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog ====================================================

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Kewl new find

by foo＠siconic.com

I came across a deliciously mysterious computer today in a local thrift store. I took the following photos of it in various states of undress: http://www.siconic.com/crap/BMC-1.jpg http://www.siconic.com/crap/BMC-2.jpg http://www.siconic.com/crap/BMC-3.jpg http://www.siconic.com/crap/BMC-4.jpg http://www.siconic.com/crap/BMC-5.jpg http://www.siconic.com/crap/BMC-6.jpg It's a machine made by OKI of Japan (the same company apparently that made the Okidata printer line). It's called the Small Computer Model 10 (as indicated by the photo of the nameplate). At first I thought it was just some dumb terminal until I started looking closer at it and discovered it was indeed a computer. Upon examining the innards I found that it has a Z80 processor and seems to be circa 1982. I couldn't tell how much RAM it had because the chips are all funky Japanese types. My guess would be 32K-64K. As one can see from the photos, it incorporates a dot matrix printer in the main unit. If you've got one to compare to, the machine is almost exactly the same dimensions as a Sol-20 (and just as heavy). It has an expansion bus inside, and two cards are plugged in: a floppy drive controller (marked 5-FDD) and some sort of CRT interface (marked C-CRT, probably color CRT). The right-hand side has three DIN connectors, labelled L-PEN (lightpen), TV (probably an RF connector), A-CMT (?). Finally, there is a DB-25 RS-232C connector. The left-hand side features the power switch and two momentary buttons, one marked IPL and the other NMI. I was hoping when I plugged the machine in I would get output to the printer but no go. I tried blindly typing some BASIC commands like LPRINT but that had no effect. When it first turns on, there is a 3 second beep that comes out of the speaker. If I hit the IPL button it seems to reset the machine: there's a moment of about 3 seconds after pushing the button where nothing happens but then the speaker beeps for about 3 seconds again. I tried pressing various keys (like HARD COPY) but could not get any action out of the printer. I imagine it wants to be connected to a CRT. I didn't know at the time to look for a CRT so I'll probably go back tomorrow to check around. I'm also going to check for any floppy drives that might go with it. I'd like to try to hook it up to a TV but I don't know what pins I should use. I have a working scope but it's huge, old and is at my warehouse. What would be a good way to try to determine which pins carry the signal? Any help or info would be appreciated. Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a six in a pile of nines... VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1 San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California See http://www.vintage.org for details!

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ID an emulex Unibus board anyone?

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

One more note, this from the Emulex marketing sheet on the CS21: "Controller Interface: 2 50-conductor flat cables, compatible with DEC's H317 distribution panel." The standard Emulex distrib. panel for it is a CP22, btw.. damn I pitched one of these a few months ago... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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PDP-11/34 & RK05 Questions

by djg＠drs-esg.com

For the cleaning of dirty packs I use a lazy susan (rotating table) and put the pack on it. This allows me to rotate it and view a various angles to look for dust and other defects. If you put a light at the correct angle dust will show up much better. I use the alcohol to clean disks like others have said and also use the canned "compressed air" dust off to blow the dust off. Make sure you squirt the first bit away from the disk in case some of the liquid comes out. I also use a photo/lens brush to remove the stubborn dust. Depending on house dust level you may have trouble getting it all off. Running a air cleaner or filtered fan in a closed room can cut the airborne dust down. If the packs may of been dropped at some time you need to watch out for them being bent. Most lazy susan will have a lot of play so may not allow you to see. If you have the top of the drive off and watch the shadows on the pack from the head positioner assembly they will move if the pack is bent. Just blip the run switch for a short time to get a slow rotation or rotate by hand. You should also check that the battery pack is still good. It is a rechargable nicad and will go bad after a while. Measure with a load after charging if needed. This is used to retract the heads if power is lost. It is located on the left side near the back. I have various maintenance information for the RK05 available at http://www.pdp8.net/query_docs/query.shtml RK05 docs: http://www.pdp8.net/pdp8cgi/query_docs/query.pl?Search=rk05&stype=Partial+W… This search/convert to PDF is new so let me know if you have problems. David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Old computers with blinkenlights

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Final tally from the VAX fairy

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Ok, so after a day of intermittantly going out to the pile and moving it indoors I've got the final VAX fairy tally: 2 - BA123 Chassis Chassis 1 has a VAXStation II badge a KA630, 8MB (+1) of RAM the DEQNA RQDX3, and TQK50. Peripherals were two RD53's and a "hole" where the TK50 would have been. There are also four "Avalon" boards which are quad width, have a Mot 88K processor on them, something like a 4MB daughter card, one edge connector (26 pin) and a couple of LEDs. No clue what these do. Chassis 2 has that I've been stored in the outside air about it. It had the tighted MV2 system I've seen, KA630, MS630-BA, and a dual width MS630-AA (4MB total) and an RQDX3 all in the first three slots. No ethernet, nothing else. One RD53 and one hole where the TK50 would go. (hope they didn't think they were DLT drives :-) 2 - BA23 chassis Chassis 1 was badged MicroVAX III and yielded a KA655 + two third party memory boards, both with socketed ram chips, one only half populated. Weird. This system also had an Emulex QD32 SMD controller for Q-bus, and an Emulex Pertec tape controller. Chassis 2 (separate rack) was badged MVII and had a KA630 + 8MB, a DEQNA, and an RQDX3. Then on the bottom it had an Emulex UC07 scsi controller, but the board literally had a spiders nest on it. I'm going to clean it up and see if it works. that would be a great deal if it did. The MicroVAX 3 appeared to be complete but the rack it was in had clearly fallen on its side at some point (perhaps during transport or in the parking lot) the damaage actually looked pretty old, but it had to be noisy because the BA23 was _bent_. Now I've done a lot of things to BA23's since I started playing with them and I can tell you it takes a hell of a whack to bend one. The top cards were fine but the bottom card (a DHV11) was bowed from the stresses placed on it. So much for that chassis! Also in this rack was a pair of Fujitsu SMD drives that were on a dual disk sled. Unfortunately there heads were not locked and they had been forcibly bounced out of the rack slides. I'm not expecting them to have survived :-) A couple of Unibus extender boxes (BA11-K) one with switching power supply (about 25 lbs) one with linear supply (about 85 lbs!) The latter however matches the decor on my 11/34a which has no backplane space left so to that rack it goes. One had an M9313 terminator in it. (guess I can replace my 9302 in the 11/34 now) A couple of Sigma Q-bus extenders (labels inside say "do not put a CPU in this rack", I wonder why.) The one in the damaged rack was unsalvagable. These both had the sigma qbus extender pairs. Then there was one rack with a beautiful Kennedy 9400 Pertec tape drive. I'm dying to see if this thing works, it actually looks like it was indoors for most of its life. Tony or anyone else, is there a way to power this up without connecting it up and seeing if it can load a tape? I've got an emulex controller for it but the cables were shredded and so they are of no use to me. I'm wondering if I can plug it in and power it up to see if it works. Then a few misc Unibus boards, docs for various things, the rattiest MicroVAX 2000 I have ever seen, all rusted at the connectors. (Looks like it could have literally been used as a boat anchor!) It was hiding yet another RD53 inside. I've also got a Emulex quad width board that looks like an SMD controller, part number is: QD3510206. I've got no use for it, I'm not crazy enough to try to run every type of disk technology and SMD is right out. Anyway, it was a remarkable thing to find literally on ones doorstep. Now to see how many of the systems can be salvaged, get parts to people who need them and who knows. I'm hoping to have a fully restored MVII in a BA123 available at VCF for sale. Sort of a complete system for the new collector who doesn't have furniture yet :-) --Chuck

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ID an emulex Unibus board anyone?

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> wrote: > At 16:47 02-08-2000 -0700, Chuck wrote: > I've got three boards that are made by > >Emulex, go in the Unibus and are marked CS2110203/H2B. There are two 50 pin > >connectors on the top (channel 0-7, 8-15), an LED labelled "fault", and two > > <snip> > > Exactly right on your guess that they're comm controllers. The kicker is > that, in order to function properly, I believe they require the specific > Emulex distribution panel. We used CS21s at Software Results. I have a quantity of them with random numbers of busted ports. Depending on the PROMs installed in it, the emulate DH-11s or DZ-11s (TTA0, TTB0, etc., or TXA0, TXB0, etc.) It is possible that they have reused DEC's pinout for the DZ-11 patch panel, but I do not know this for sure. We never used their patch panels. One of our gurus divined the wiring scheme, made a telco-50 pin swabber and plugged them into Nevada Western RJ21 - octal RJ11 patch panels and boxes. We had patch panels grouped by CPU and room. We would connect individual lines with RJ11 patch cables. At the office end, there was a block of 8 RJ11 jacks that the user would connect to VT100s at the desktop through a Nevada Western dongle (like the ones that Rat-Shack currently sells). I wired up one of these at my house - I have an RJ21 cable going from the uVAXII and the 8300 in the basement to a 8-way block in the computer room on the second floor. It's nice to have the option of hooking to various machines without going downstairs to do it (we also had RJ11 switchboxes for "power users" ;-) Now... back to your dilemma... You will need a way to get the signals from the Berg-50s on the CS21 to some sort of breakout board or cable. If all I had was a board and a lot of time, I'd trace out one or two of the 2661 serial chips to the line drivers to establish where TxD and RxD (and ground!) were on the Berg-50, then take a SCSI ribbon cable out to a prototype board and wire up another 50-pin connector to a bunch of 2x5 .1" pin blocks set up with the same configuration as modern PC serial ports (the cables are easy to get and cheap). With that made, plug in DB9 or DB25 PC cables and off you go. I will attempt to find a CS21 manual, but I can't do it until the end of August. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

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FW: FREE Working Vax 4000-200

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Found on Usenet: Anyone up for a rescue in the Pasadena area? Why don't these things ever happen in WA? :-( -=-=- <snip> -=-=- In article <9ekhos0urqlvn47uhn6obaqvq8j9bui2bi(a)4ax.com>, you say... > Path: news.uswest.net!news-out.uswest.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!nntp2.giganews.com!nntp3.giganews.com!news4.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail > From: Charles Shartsis <cascas(a)earthlink.net> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro,comp.sys.dec > Subject: FREE Working Vax 4000-200 > Organization: Logicon > Message-ID: <9ekhos0urqlvn47uhn6obaqvq8j9bui2bi(a)4ax.com> > X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.7/32.532 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Lines: 11 > NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:57:32 CDT > X-Trace: sv2-SgZHCPRPJjcUxRO9XKJE7j/u/LGP3MdtuQCXJujyl4aejFfxXf+YmgV0yGoBQ8d30UV0Umn6lFZjAqf!kF+vR4j5iWNq > X-Complaints-To: abuse(a)GigaNews.Com > X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers > X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly > Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:05:09 -0700 > Xref: news-out.uswest.net comp.sys.dec.micro:1210 comp.sys.dec:11527 > > Free Vax 4000-200 with 3 disks, 32MB memory, cabinet-type enclosure. > It boots, it runs VMS. What more do you want? Also tape drive (don't > know if this works) and other stuff. This was abandoned by a bank. > We took it. Now we don't want it. The catch: it weighs around 200 > pounds. You pick it up and its yours. Please don't ask me to pack it > and ship it. I want to do as little work as possible here. We are in > Pasadena, CA. Respond by E-Mail or call me: > > Charles Shartsis > H 310-379-8630 > W 626-351-0089 x13 > > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner/Head Honcho, Blue Feather Technologies (http://www.bluefeathertech.com) kyrrin [a-t] bluefeathertech {d=o=t} com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma)

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PDP-11/34 & RK05 Questions

by djg＠drs-esg.com

One more thing I thought of (and since I get the digest probably has been said) When I first spin up the pack I run a program which quickly seeks seeks through each track and then repeats. This hopefully does a couple of things, if a defect/dust is still on the platter it won't sit on that one spot long, and it lets you quickly know how the pack it while you are standing next to the drive to hit the load switch if it starts sounding too bad. Even with the best cleaning effort I sometimes have some faint pings >from certain areas of the disk but after a couple of passes they frequently go away. I assume the head manages to knock the contaminate away. If it doesn't clear I either give up on the pack or take it apart again using where the head positioner was to figure out where to look more. I was working with a bunch of packs which were not stored in bags so they were pretty dirty to start with. I can't tell you how to figure out how to tell when a ping is too loud, but I would be conservative, especially if you got plenty of packs. Start with one that doesn't have anything valuable on it, I got better with practice. After unmounting a pack that made noise I always inspect the heads and then clean them anyway. I found oxide on them once with a pack that sounded enough different I didn't let it finish its pass. David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Old computers with blinkenlights

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HP 35401 protocol extensions ?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Jarkko Teppo <jate(a)uwasa.fi> wrote: > Does anyone know of the autochanger extensions for HP 35401 eight tape > jukebox ? It's based on an HP 9144 cartridge drive and is compatible > with it in normal operation, but I can't find the autochanger extensions > *anywhere*! Hmm, I wonder if that's what the CS/80 "Set Volume" command is for. The command is 0x40, with the volume number (0-7) or'd into the three least significant bits. > If nothing helps I'll just chuck it back to my screaming dual-processor, > WIN/TCP enabled HP 9000/550:) You know with a hook like that I can't resist, right? I'm (or was, anyway, TWG is pretty much gone now) the last maintainer of WIN/TCP for the HP9000 series 500. How does the changer work from HP-UX on the 550? Can it be told to pick a specific cartridge, or does it just step through cartridges as each is unloaded? We didn't have a changer; well, we did, but it was either me or the guy who did the backups. -Frank McConnell

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classiccmp list archive, digest changes, and a free offer

by yakowenk＠cs.unc.edu

That list, plus some related classiccmp stuff, is still here: http://www.cs.unc.edu/~yakowenk/classiccmp/ Guess I should advertise more. I'm still maintaining the Classic Computer Rescue Squad list, albeit without the quick response time of the good old days. If you need a change, just drop me a line. If the change hasn't been plugged in within a week or so, you may want to write again and remind me about it. :-/ Cheers, Bill. On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, "Jay West" <west(a)tseinc.com> wrote: > Subject: Re: classiccmp list archive, digest changes, and a free offer > > John wrote... > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: John R. Keys Jr. <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: classiccmp list archive, digest changes, and a free offer > > > > How does one go about updating their address and for phone number on the > > rescue list ?? Thanks > > You mean the classic computer rescue squad? :) > > That's a different site. It's at http://www.cs.unc.edu/~yakowenk/classiccmp/ > > on that page it says to change your info email to > mailto:yakowxenk@csx.unxc.edu (remove all 3 x's)?subject=CCRS > > HTH > > Jay West

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ID an emulex Unibus board anyone?

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Chuck, Well I tried emailing you direct, and it bounced sooo... anyways, the CS21 is, according to the Spring 1988 Emulex Products Catalog, a multiplexer which comes in three flavors. Yours is the /H, which would make it a DH11 equivalent. It is indeed a 16 line, asynchronous mux, 19.2Kbps max speed, full duplex transmission, partial modem control, 50,000cps throughput, and receive fifo of 64-256Kw per 16 lines. Hope that helps some... Will J ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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