- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by whdawson＠mlynk.com

DEC LK201AA Keyboard available cheap. I found it at the local Goodwill, where it still is. Nice condition, all keycaps present. Price is $3.25. If anyone is interested, LMK and I'll pick it up. Shipping at actual cost, UPS or USPS. Bill

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VAX 6310 in Piscataway NJ

by azog＠azog.org

I'm not affiliated with this guy at all, but found this interesting: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1200276177 A complete 6310 with SA600 and other odds & ends, starting bid at $500. I'd bid on it myself, but I'm not sure where I'll be living in the next month. Which is too bad, because Piscataway is "just down the road" from me.

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Classic monochrome phosphors?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com <CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com> >Does anyone know the designation (as in "P3" or "P25") of these long-lived >green and yellow phosphors that were commonly used on IBM PC and PC-clone Between scopes and terminals I have: P31 blue, ? amber, P1 green and two differnt whites (vt100 and Vt320 paperwhite). P1 is the common medium green of older scopes and terminals P3 and P39 are either amber or white range, I forget P7 short blue/long yellow (used mostly for scopes and slowscan) P11 is blue (more toward the medium persistance) P31 The common scope tubes early 90s (blueish white medium) There are others but, the codes to them are long forgotten. Allison

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Fwd: TX State Surplus Macs Must Be Saved! (fwd)

by optimus＠canit.se

A forward from the Compact Macs list. Of interest to y'all kauboois doun dere. -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. "I am *different* from all of you because I am a *ningen*!!"

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DECstation Haul...

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, LFessen106(a)aol.com wrote: > Hi Everyone! > I just picked up a few DECstations (Thanks Carlos!) and was wondering what > your impressions/suggestions for them would be. > I picked up: > 2 DECstation 5000/33 (Maxine) > DECstation 5000/125 (3min - I think) > DECstation 2100 (pmin - I think) > > The Maxine's and the 2100 are running Ultrix 4.2 and 4.3 respectively. The > 2100 is running NetBSD. > I didn't get any monitor with the 2100 and it's got some sort of mono frame > buffer with a cable that terminates in a single bnc connector. Anyone know > what I can hook this into to get some video? I did get monitors with both > maxines, however, one is very dim. I have some other monitors that take the > BNC type connectors but don't know what the frequencies are supposed to be on > the Maxines and don't want to blow any of my old working monitors up trying > them out arbitrarilly. Both Maxines are running expanded frame buffer cards > (forget exactly the name and can't look at them right now). Here some info I put together a while back that may help some. Mike DEC Monitor Specifications Following are listed the specs for some of the common DEC monitors that are finding their way into the hobbyist area. The specs were taken from the following DEC manuals: EK-VR290-IN-002 (1985); EK-VR299-IN (1989); EK-VR319-TC-001 (1991); EK-VR320-IN-001 (1990); EK-VRT16-TC-001 (1991); EK-VRT19-TC-001 (1991); ER-VRT19-OP-002 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Monitor Overview Resolution Frequencies Model Horiz Vert Horiz - Khz Vert - Hz -------- ------ ---- ----------- --------- VR299 1024 x 864 54.054 60 VR320-CA 1280 x 1024 70.66 66.47 * VR320-DA 1280 x 1024 77.13 72.56 * VRT19-DA 1280 x 1024 70.7 66.5 (aka Sony GDM-1960) VRT19-HA ** 1280 x 1024 77.1728 72.5562 (aka Sony GDM-1961) * The VR320 manual states that the monitor can operate at either 66 or 72 Hz, and is preset to match the machine prior to shipping. The manual also says to contact DEC Customer Service (yeah, right) if a change is needed. If DEC set it to 66 Hz they stamped 'CA' after 'VR320-' on the ID tag, if set to 72 Hz they stamped 'DA'. DEC set it to 66 or 72 Hz using a slide switch that is inside the monitor. The switch is clearly marked 66 & 72 Hz, just set it to the desired position. ** The VRT19-HA will operate at either 66 or 72 Hz vertical refresh. VR290 - 19" Color - See VR299 VR297 - 16" Color - See VR299 VR319-CA - 19" Mono - See VR320-CA VR319-DA - 19" Mono - See VR320-DA VRT16-DA - 16" Color - See VRT19-DA VRT16-HA - 16" Color - See VRT19-HA The monitors with a suffix (CA, DA, & HA) are considered Northern Hemisphere versions. For the down-under folks the suffixes are C4, D3, D4, & H4 instead. --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- VRT19 - 1280 x 1024 VRT19-DA VRT19-HA Pixel Clock: 119.843 Mhz 130.825 Mhz * Pixel Period: 8.344 ns * 7.643 ns * Horizonital Pixels Horiz Freq: 70.7 Khz 77.1728 Khz Horizontal Period: 14.1441 us * 1696 12.9656 us Active Video: 10.68 us 1280 9.7853 us Blanking Interval: 3.465 us 416 3.1802 us Front Porch: 258 ns 32 244.6 ns Sync Pulse: 1335 ns 160 1223.2 ns Back Porch: 1873 ns 224 1712.4 ns Vertical Lines Vert Freq: 66.5 Hz 72.5562 Hz Vertical Period: 15.035 ms 1063 13.7824 ms Active Video: 14.485 ms 1024 13.2768 ms Blanking Interval: 551.62 us * 39 505.6584 us * Front Porch: 42.432 us * 3 38.8968 us * Sync Pulse: 42.432 us * 3 38.8968 us * Back Porch: 466.7553 us * 33 427.8648 us * * These values were calculated as they are not list in the manuals. --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- VR320 - 1280 x 1024 The specs for the VR320 are only slightly different than those for the VRT19, and most of that appears to be rounding differences. Since have the manual, thought would include it here for completeness. VR320-CA VRT320-DA Pixel Clock: 119.84 Mhz 130.81 Mhz Pixel Period: 8.34 ns 7.64 ns Horizonital Pixels Horiz Freq: 70.66 Khz 77.13 Khz Horizontal Period: 14.15 us 1696 12.97 us Active Video: 10.68 us 1280 9.79 us Blanking Interval: 3.47 us 416 3.18 us Front Porch: 267 ns 32 245 ns Sync Pulse: 1340 ns 160 1220 ns Back Porch: 1870 ns 224 171 ns Vertical Lines Vert Freq: 66.47 Hz 72.56 Hz Vertical Period: 15.035 ms 1063 13.7824 ms Active Video: 14.49 ms 1024 13.28 ms Blanking Interval: 552 us 39 506 us Front Porch: 42.46 us 3 38.89 us Sync Pulse: 42.46 us 3 38.89 us Back Porch: 467 us 33 427.9 us --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- VR299 - 1024 x 864 Pixel Clock: 70 Mhz Pixel Period: 14.45 ns Horizonital Pixels Horiz Freq: 54.054 Khz Horizontal Period: 18.50 us 1280 * Active Video: 14.8 us 1024 Blanking Interval: 3.70 us 256 * Front Porch: 160 ns 12 * Sync Pulse: 1850 ns 128 * Back Porch: 1680 ns 116 * Vertical Lines Vert Freq: 60 Hz Vertical Period: 16.667 ms 901 Active Video: 16.0 ms 864 Blanking Interval: 684.5 us * 37 Front Porch: 0 us 0 Sync Pulse: 55.5 us * 3 Back Porch: 629 us * 34 * * These values were calculated as they are not list in the manuals. --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Display Options In the DEC world, certain monitors only work with certain equipment, for example the VR299 works with the DECstation 2100/3100. Then there is the TURBOchannel graphics cards as found in the DECstation 5000 series as well as other machines. This is an attempt to list what monitors work with which graphic cards. For simplicity's sake, the monitors can be placed in one of three categories, and that is by the vertical scan frequency. The monitors are of one of the following vertical frequencies: 60, 66 or 72 Hz. Of course there are those monitors (ex: VRT19-HA) that will work at both 66 and 72 Hz. The following table lists the graphics card model, its vertical output, and a description of that graphics card. Model Freq Description -------- ---- ----------- PMAG-AA 72 Monochrome frame buffer PMAG-B 60 PMAG-C 66 2D graphics accelerator PMAG-CA 66 2D graphics accelerator PMAG-D 66 PMAG-DA 66 Low 3D graphics accelerator PMAG-DC 66 Low 3D graphics plus PMAG-E 66 PMAG-EA 66 Mid 3D graphics accelerator PMAG-F 66 PMAG-FA 66 High 3D graphics accelerator PMAG-JA 66 True color frame buffer PMAGB-A 60 PMAGB-B 66 PMAGB-BA 66 Smart frame buffer PMAGB-BC 72 Smart frame buffer PMAGB-BE 72 Smart frame buffer PMAGB-DA 72 Low 3D graphics accelerator PMAGB-EA 72 Mid 3D graphics accelerator PMAGB-FA 72 High 3D graphics accelerator PMAGB-JA 72 True color frame buffer --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------

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IBM Displaywriter available in LA

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

Contact the person below if you are interested. ------------------------ From: KirkwoodBS(a)aol.com Date sent: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:35:01 EST Subject: IBM Displaywriter Hello, I have an IBM Displaywriter system, 5218 A04 printer, program disks and complete set of manuals. This is a big, dedicated word processing system but I'd like to find someone who'd want it. I hate to just trash it. Do you, or do you know of anyone who may like this equipment? If not, any suggestions of how to dispose of it? I am located in Los Angeles CA. Thank you Bobby --------------- ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

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CDC Sabre information

by vaxman＠uswest.net

Sorry, I deleted the original message before writting down the model number, But.... http://www.pc-disk.de/pcdisk shows four different model numbers. The site is in germany, so it can be kinda slow... clint

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Question: Disk Mirroring preceding RAID?

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Other disk configurations I seem to remember that there were dual ported CDC disk drives used by AT&T with their 3B20's as a reliable but not cheap mechanism to increase throughput, mirror data, and allow online backups without shutting down the machines. The Western Electric plant in Kansas City used these configurations to monitor memory chip production. I don't remember the model number but I seem to remember that they looked like RP04's. Each machine in a pair had 2 dedicated disk drives and 1 shared disk drive. RAID = Redundant Array of *Inexpensive* Disks REDHUT = Really expensive disks hooked up together I believe that EMC and Storage Tech are currently both trying to go into the REDHUT business. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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looking for Wyse 60 keyboard

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hi folks. Anyone have a keyboard for a Wyse 60 that they'd be willing to part with? -Dave McGuire

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CAMAC stuff for sale

by amichael＠nortelnetworks.com

Rich, I have some Multibus too that I would be interested in swapping. Arlen -- Arlen Michaels amichael(a)nortelnetworks.com Nortel Networks, Ottawa, Canada voice (613) 763-2568 fax (613) 763-9344 > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [SMTP:edick@idcomm.com] > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 10:24 AM > To: classiccmp > Subject: Re: CAMAC stuff for sale > > If you mean Multibus-I, then I have too! I've got a number of card cages > as > well as several CPU's, disk controllers, etc. > > Dick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe" <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 3:04 AM > Subject: Re: CAMAC stuff for sale > > > > At 01:58 PM 12/1/00 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hello all, > > > > > >I am currently negotiating to buy some Multibus stuff from a gentleman > named > > >Anton Auersperg (If anyone else has any Multibus items, please let me > know). > > > > Hi Rich, > > > > I have some Multibus stuff including an Intel model 235 MDS system. > > > > Joe > > > > >

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Bob Supnik's Emulators

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

OK, this is interesting.... It seems the emulators are now at V2.5 and they've got a web page. Support has been added for the HP2100 and Interdata 4. http://www.tiac.net/users/mps/retro/ There is a link on the page to some cool pic's. Zane

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World's Crappiest Drives (was Re: A&J Microdrive)

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 22:38:33 EST Glenatacme(a)aol.com writes: > In fact, these are absolutely the crappiest storage devices I have > ever seen > used on any computer. > > Any challengers for worst storage device? Yes-- The KALOK Octagon-20. The absolute worst MFM drive (and perhaps the worst rotating memory of *any* sort) ever manufactured. Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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DECstation Haul...

by LFessen106＠aol.com

Hi Everyone! I just picked up a few DECstations (Thanks Carlos!) and was wondering what your impressions/suggestions for them would be. I picked up: 2 DECstation 5000/33 (Maxine) DECstation 5000/125 (3min - I think) DECstation 2100 (pmin - I think) The Maxine's and the 2100 are running Ultrix 4.2 and 4.3 respectively. The 2100 is running NetBSD. I didn't get any monitor with the 2100 and it's got some sort of mono frame buffer with a cable that terminates in a single bnc connector. Anyone know what I can hook this into to get some video? I did get monitors with both maxines, however, one is very dim. I have some other monitors that take the BNC type connectors but don't know what the frequencies are supposed to be on the Maxines and don't want to blow any of my old working monitors up trying them out arbitrarilly. Both Maxines are running expanded frame buffer cards (forget exactly the name and can't look at them right now). I also wanted to know if anyone knew where I could find Ultrix CD's and if it's possible to upgrade the scsi hard drives in these machines to something a little more spacious than their well-functioning-but-small 80's counterparts. These are my DECstations and I have to say I am impressed with them so far. They're DECent little unix boxen! I anxiously wait for any comments, hints, tips, and stories you may have for me regarding these computers. -Linc Fessenden Computer Collector http://members.aol.com/lfessen106 Lehigh Valley Linux User Group Cofounder/Coordinator http://thelinuxlink.net/lvlinux

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Entrepo stringy-floppies for A&J Microdrive

by Glenatacme＠aol.com

The A&J Microdrive is a TS2068 peripheral, but I understand that a similar drive was developed for the C64. Anyone know of a source for these tapes? Thanks Glen Goodwin 0/0

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New addition to the collection ...

by ncherry＠home.net

I just got my VS3100-M38 (Yes!) and within the next month I'll have a Vax cluster (if I get the time). It came with an 8M ram board but I had previously bid on a 24M set. So I'm almost ready to play with a VAX. Now if I can only get Linux loaded on my Compaq 4500R (3- PII/133 processors, 128M ram and an EISA system). I wonder if they'll let me send in the warranty cards (yes it's unused with no drives). Anyone have any quick hints on boot via the serial port and the pin out of the serial port (so I can hook it up to my terminal server). Dec LAT is next and I just saw an announcement for MOP too! -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry(a)home.net http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only) http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics) http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)

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Classic Cinemaware Games

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I just found out that classic Cinemaware titles such as "The Three Stooges" and "Rocket Ranger" have been put up on their web page for download! http://www.cinemaware.com/vault.asp?vault=games Apparently supported platforms included: Amiga, AtariST, C64, NES and PC Hmmmm..... Looks like I've definitly got to get my Amiga 3000 back up and running! Something tells me I'll be working on that this weekend! Apparently after having been gone since '91 they reformed in September of this year. Don't know if they include instructions in the downloads, but one would hope so. I remember playing "The Three Stooges" in the late 80's on my Kaypro 2000 :^) and always wanted to try "Rocket Ranger". Zane

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looking for Wyse 60 keyboard

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Ahh, thanks for the kind offer, but I will pass for now. I'm specifically looking for a Wyse60 keyboard because I have a Wyse 60 on a Cray YMP-EL system I just picked up...but it's missing the keyboard. The '60 is the console terminal that those machines shipped with, so I'm kinda wanting to keep it "standard". -Dave McGuire On December 4, Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote: > Want a Wyse 75 terminal instead??? My days of terminal programming is > over. It is in pretty good condition especially since it was new at one > point. I never came around using it. It is probably covered in dust as > it is in the garage. Free for the taking. I am in New York. > > Ram > > Dave McGuire wrote: > > > > Hi folks. Anyone have a keyboard for a Wyse 60 that they'd be > > willing to part with? > > > > -Dave McGuire > > > > > >

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Dissecting a TZ30 drive

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I have on my desk a TZ30 (half height TK50 drive) and it has a tape inside of it. Powering it up and pressing unload starts a rewind and then it gives up (all lights flash). I'm guessing the tape presense sensor is dirty or otherwise disabled but to get to it I really would like to remove the existing tape. Unfortuately I cannot find how to manually "unlock" the drive. Clues anyone? --Chuck

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GG2 Bus+ (was Re: Archiving Amiga floppies)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Iggy Drougge <optimus(a)canit.se> wrote: > Ethan Dicks skrev: > > I still have new, in-the-box GG2 Bus+ bridge cards w/original warranty. > > They come with NE2000 drivers... > > Are you parting with them, then? =) Yes. I make and sell them, but not as many as I used to (no big surprise there). If all you want is Ethernet, they, aren't that big of a bargain, frankly. At one time, when an A2065 was >$200 USD, a GG2 Bus+ for $130 plus a $20 ISA NIC was a deal, especially because I had stock on hand and all the A2065 cards were used and scarce. Now, there are several options that are available more-or-less on demand, but at a slightly higher price. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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NEXTcube

by Scott.Miller＠vandenberg.af.mil

How's the NeXTcube compare to the NeXTstation? I'd never touched a NeXT of any sort until last night. Someone on a local BBS posted a message looking for a good home for an unwanted complete NeXTstation Turbo Color, so of course I was there within the hour loading the thing up. It booted right up and ran pretty dang well for a 33 MHz system. Running the Mandelbrot demo program showed the lack of underlying horsepower, but I think it's still more responsive overall than my old SPARCstations. For that matter, Windows Explorer on a PII-400 can be a frustrating experience and it's nice to see a system that makes good use of its resources. Plus, the whole thing just LOOKS really cool. With a 33 MHz 68040 and 32 MB of RAM, will this thing run a useable web browser? I've got an SGI Indigo2 in the living room for web surfing right now, but maybe it's time to swap it out for an easier-to-use system. A bit off-topic, but do they have a release of AGI's Satellite Tool Kit for NeXTStep? It runs pretty well under IRIX. How does Rendezvous compare, or have you used STK? I'm actually about three miles from the pad where IMAGE was launched, BTW. We all climbed up on the roof to watch that one... pretty nice launch if I remember right. Those Delta II's are really cool at night, though. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Mark Tapley [mailto:mtapley@swri.edu] Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 2:12 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: NEXTcube Mike Ford wrote: >Is anyone on the list an ACTIVE Next user or collector? Yo! My cube normally sits on my desk at Southwest Research Institute (and is my only desktop machine at work, my other work computer being a Powerbook 3400). I use it for websurfing (OmniWeb), compiling command lists weekly for the IMAGE spacecraft (Perl 5.0, Terminal), pass and orbit visualization (Rendezvous), attitude determination software design, testing, and debug for IMAGE (Mathematica 2.0), newsgroup reading (NewsGrazer), preparing presentations (Concurrence, Diagram), analyzing attitude and other data (cc, Quantrix), and other stuff. I also do incremental backups of my powerbook to it (ftpd, compress). It's got an optical and a 540M hard drive and a floppy internal (using a special bracket to get the floppy to the second faceplate slot and still hold the 3.5" hard drive in that same bay). It also has two 1.2G externals in an old PC chassis (a far far nobler cause than that chassis ever served before...gotta get that thing painted black... :-) ). The machine is now upstairs at home, because while trying to upgrade to Mathematica 3.0, I used for the first time, to hook my CD drive into the SCSI chain, a Centronix-to-Centronix cable that was apparently not a SCSI cable. (What do I know, it came out of a box that said "SCSI cables, $3" at Wierd Stuff Warehouse). The boot hard drive got scrambled, then I discovered I don't know as much as I thought I did about "dump" and "restore". I'm about recovered from that by now, so I'll try again (with a *different* cable setup) on the Mma 3.0 install. BTW, as of a few weeks ago, Wolfram was about to quit doing upgrades from Mma 2.2 and earlier, so if you've been putting that off, don't. The 25 MHz 68040 CPU is not as fast as modern workstation processors. That said, NeXTStep 3.3 on NeXT is a very solid and very useful OS/Development environment for a workstation, and the amount of freeware/shareware/payware out for NeXT is amazing. Since nothing I do requires a lot of serious crunch power (or if it does can be run overnight), the NeXT is a really good machine for me. >I don't know if I would bring one home just >to sell and pack for a profit. Most likely yes, but I know I would grumble >all the way to the bank. I know of a couple of folks around here I'd like to get connected with NeXTs. Also, I'd *love* to find a NeXTDimension board, cable, and color monitor to add to my system at a price my wife will accept. Finally, there are a couple of NeXT resellers still on the market who would likely be interested in hearing about big piles of new hardware. If you see/hear of another batch in peril, *particularly* if it includes a cube tied to a color monitor, let me know and I'll hopefully arrange for you to grumble back and forth to the bank several times. - Mark

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NEXTcube

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Scott Miller wrote: >How's the NeXTcube compare to the NeXTstation? Cube is a chassis with backplane, 1 CPU/RAM/etc board and 3 slots usually empty. One more slot can contain the elusive and valuable NeXTDimension card, which drives a color monitor, eats video and does frame captures, etc. I don't know of any other widely available boards for the slots, so 2 slots are essentially superfluous. (Well, there is a hack to put spare CPU boards in spare slots, but those CPUs do not communicate over the backplane - they might as well be in a seperate chassis.) Cubes (only) can accomodate the magneto-optical drive, and other 5.25" full-height drives, in their central tower. Station, as you know, is a pizzabox with less expansion room. Performance, RAM capacity, etc. is generally identical between (Turbo, non-turbo) cubes and mono (Turbo, non-turbo) Stations. Stations, both non- and turbo, came in color versions. These were slightly slower than the equivalent mono, and required external sound boxes. Their color capability was not as good as the Dimension board's (not as many colors, no frame-grabber, etc.) >Someone on a local BBS posted a message looking >for a good home for an unwanted complete NeXTstation Turbo Color, so of >course I was there within the hour loading the thing up. <turns slowly green> ...how ... nice ... for ... you .... <sobs> >...it's nice to see a >system that makes good use of its resources. NeXTs seem to do pretty well with what they have. The MO drive in the cubes is a standout underperformer as far as speed goes, but otherwise they're pretty responsive. >With a 33 MHz 68040 and 32 MB of RAM, will this thing >run a useable web browser? OmniWeb. Look at http://www.peak.org/next/apps/internet/www/ and grab everything that begins with Omni... . It will surf about 95% of the sites I hit. No Java, no animations. I count that a blessing. I also commend to your attention http://www.peak.org/next/apps/LighthouseDesign/ for an office suite of tools. I've got lots more NeXT-related bookmarks if anyone's interested in them. >A bit off-topic, but do they have a release of AGI's Satellite Tool Kit for >NeXTStep? Nope. (I wish. I've suggested it, and for Mac.) Rendezvous is around $100, and amounts to an STK-light. It does about everything the base (now free) STK does, and a bit more, but nothing like as much as the full-up $multi-00,000 STK suite. It's a bit pokey on a 25 MHz Cube. General question: is modern software for classic machines off-topic? I see it as a way to keep the machines productive, and therefore right on-topic. >pretty nice launch if I remember right. Those Delta II's are really cool at >night, though. McBoing pretty much hit our target orbit dead-on. I saw the video from Greenbelt MD. I was in the SMOC, telnetted to my NeXT and waiting to see whether the satellite would turn on when it separated from the 3rd stage. (It did. Whew! :-) ). Try: http://pluto.space.swri.edu/IMAGE/ to see Your Tax Dollars at work. - Mark

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Weekend's finds

by witchy＠i12.com

Hi Folks, I don't know if this'll work since I'm posting from home, but I just thought I'd ask if anyone's come across one of these before: Apricot XEN-i XD20. I got it with an Acorn Archimedes A4000 (nice to have a working one at last!) and it's got some really odd features, like external power supply (or so it would seem), an LED on the front panel labelled 'voice' and more input/output ports than something with a lot of ports. The keyboard is also one with the 'micro display' on with programmable function keys :) Since there's a 15 pin D type marked 'DC Input' I assume I need to power the box externally, and since there's also a normal 4-pin style 'DC Output' I also assume I need to feed it +12 and +5V. Pix to come soon. I also got a right odd looking thing - it's a (or at least looks like a) ZX81 peripheral. There's a crystal on it as well as 3 chips, 4060, 4040 and 4087 and its marked 'G4IDE' or 'G41DE' on the front and 'FAX PCB' on the back. Since I don't believe anyone produced a FAX add-on for the ZX81 I'm a bit puzzled! Finally there's an adapter for the Vic/C64 that lets you use 2 C2Ns - one for dedicated saving and the other for dedicated loading. Little things, but sometimes little things are good :) adrian/witchy www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the Online Computer Museum

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Apple IIgs Power Question

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

It's been half of forever since I've had my IIgs setup. Now the question is, how many floppy drives can its powersupply handle at once? I know I've had 2 3.5" and 1 5.25" drives plugged into it, however, I'm wondering if it's safe to plug in 2 3.5" and 2 5.25" drives. The only cards in it at the moment are a 1MB RAM card and a CMS SCSI adapter (hooked up to a 44MB Syquest). Anyway now to see if I can even remember how to boot the system :^) Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Weekend's finds

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 3, 19:56, Adrian Graham wrote: > I don't know if this'll work since I'm posting from home, but I just thought > I'd ask if anyone's come across one of these before: Apricot XEN-i XD20. I > got it with an Acorn Archimedes A4000 (nice to have a working one at last!) > and it's got some really odd features, like external power supply (or so it > would seem), an LED on the front panel labelled 'voice' and more > input/output ports than something with a lot of ports. The keyboard is also > one with the 'micro display' on with programmable function keys :) > Since there's a 15 pin D type marked 'DC Input' I assume I need to power the > box externally, and since there's also a normal 4-pin style 'DC Output' I > also assume I need to feed it +12 and +5V. Pix to come soon. Did you get a monitor with it? Apricot monitors of that vintage came in two types, colour and monchrome, and contained the power supply for the machine. What exactly are the connectors on the box? The ones I remember had a sort of plstic clip around the monitor video/power connector. > I also got a right odd looking thing - it's a (or at least looks like a) > ZX81 peripheral. There's a crystal on it as well as 3 chips, 4060, 4040 and > 4087 and its marked 'G4IDE' or 'G41DE' on the front and 'FAX PCB' on the > back. Since I don't believe anyone produced a FAX add-on for the ZX81 I'm a > bit puzzled! Given the callsign 'G4IDE', I'd expect this is something like an interface to a weather fax receiver used by a radio ham. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Anobody familliar with Hypercharger 020 Accel. Card for MAC SE?

by claudew＠sprint.ca

Hi I found this in a pile a boards I am currently sorting... Found nothing on web (just the driver for it). Anybody knows how exactly how this is supposed to fit in an SE? And what do the jumpers A-G do? How about that 12 pin header, how does that connect to the SE? Thanks Claude

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Anobody familliar with Hypercharger 020 Accel. Card for MAC SE?

by claudew＠sprint.ca

Still, I am not sure how to install this accel.... I'll try I guess, I have about 6 SE's here, so even if I destroy one... Putting this accel in a SE could be the closest I come to having an Se/30.. I actually have one Se/30 but machine does those horizontal stripes... Changed several caps on board, some obviously leeking, still no start...bars still...will have to probe I guess... Claude > > Nope. Both the Color Classic and the Classic II as well as the > >SE-30s were 68030 16Mhz machines. The CC was a little slower > >than the II due to the color draw. But yes the SE/30 is reputed to be > >faster. > > Larry, > > I'm afraid you're wrong there....the CC II was clocked at > 33mhz and had a true 32 bit data path while the CC was based on a 16 > bit data path, the same as the LC series, and was clocked at 16 mhz. > All were based on the 68030. The 16bit data path is what crippled the > CC so badly, not the 16mhz clock. It's said that it only had roughly > 60-70 % of the speed of the SE/30. > > Jeff (who is happy to be back on his desktop machine after 3 weeks!) > -- > Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems: > Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File > http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757 > I think I'm mixing up the various flavors of Classics. I know the SE/30 was faster than the Classic II due to it's 32-bit data path and the Color Classic was slower than the C II due to color processing. The ringer is the Color Classic II which I'm unfamiliar with. And now I know why I want one. :^) ciao larry Reply to: lgwalker(a)look.ca

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NEXTcube

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Mike Ford wrote: >Is anyone on the list an ACTIVE Next user or collector? Yo! My cube normally sits on my desk at Southwest Research Institute (and is my only desktop machine at work, my other work computer being a Powerbook 3400). I use it for websurfing (OmniWeb), compiling command lists weekly for the IMAGE spacecraft (Perl 5.0, Terminal), pass and orbit visualization (Rendezvous), attitude determination software design, testing, and debug for IMAGE (Mathematica 2.0), newsgroup reading (NewsGrazer), preparing presentations (Concurrence, Diagram), analyzing attitude and other data (cc, Quantrix), and other stuff. I also do incremental backups of my powerbook to it (ftpd, compress). It's got an optical and a 540M hard drive and a floppy internal (using a special bracket to get the floppy to the second faceplate slot and still hold the 3.5" hard drive in that same bay). It also has two 1.2G externals in an old PC chassis (a far far nobler cause than that chassis ever served before...gotta get that thing painted black... :-) ). The machine is now upstairs at home, because while trying to upgrade to Mathematica 3.0, I used for the first time, to hook my CD drive into the SCSI chain, a Centronix-to-Centronix cable that was apparently not a SCSI cable. (What do I know, it came out of a box that said "SCSI cables, $3" at Wierd Stuff Warehouse). The boot hard drive got scrambled, then I discovered I don't know as much as I thought I did about "dump" and "restore". I'm about recovered from that by now, so I'll try again (with a *different* cable setup) on the Mma 3.0 install. BTW, as of a few weeks ago, Wolfram was about to quit doing upgrades from Mma 2.2 and earlier, so if you've been putting that off, don't. The 25 MHz 68040 CPU is not as fast as modern workstation processors. That said, NeXTStep 3.3 on NeXT is a very solid and very useful OS/Development environment for a workstation, and the amount of freeware/shareware/payware out for NeXT is amazing. Since nothing I do requires a lot of serious crunch power (or if it does can be run overnight), the NeXT is a really good machine for me. >I don't know if I would bring one home just >to sell and pack for a profit. Most likely yes, but I know I would grumble >all the way to the bank. I know of a couple of folks around here I'd like to get connected with NeXTs. Also, I'd *love* to find a NeXTDimension board, cable, and color monitor to add to my system at a price my wife will accept. Finally, there are a couple of NeXT resellers still on the market who would likely be interested in hearing about big piles of new hardware. If you see/hear of another batch in peril, *particularly* if it includes a cube tied to a color monitor, let me know and I'll hopefully arrange for you to grumble back and forth to the bank several times. - Mark

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DC100 tape cartridges

by fmc＠reanimators.org

I seem to have accumulated a small pile of HP-flavored DC100 tape cartridges, some interesting, most not. Samples from the not-interesting DC100s suggest that many are afflicted by sticky-tension-loop, meaning they've been left to sit long enough that the tension loop that runs between capstan and the supply and takeup reels has become stuck to the tape where they touch, and when the capstan is spun they will peel some of the oxide off the tape. Does anybody have any ideas how to un-stick a tape that's been left sitting? Careful disassembly? Steam? WD40? -Frank McConnell

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Need (2) TRS-80 Model 1 power supplies

by vcf＠siconic.com

I'm in need of 2 TRS-80 (Model 1) power supplies, working of course. Does anyone have any to sell to me? Please contact me directly off-list. Thanks! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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i have a fujitsu m2444ac

by Hotdog23＠aol.com

that i want to get rid of. is anyone interested? i also have some tapes too. steve yaw

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RL01 Help Needed

by univac2＠earthlink.net

I recently got another PDP-11/34 (partly because it was local, but mostly for the three RL01 drives it came with). It is working perfectly, and I get the console emulator prompt on the terminal. What should I do before I fire up the RL01 drives? I have a lot of RL01 packs including RSX-11M. Needless to say, I haven't put them in the drive yet. Thanks, Owen

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Solace, the Sol computer emulator, version 2.1

by frustum＠pacbell.net

Well it has been five months of about 7 hours a week of work on Solace, SOL Anachronistic Computer Emulator, and a new version is ready. You may also recall a short thread from about a month ago about a Sol on ebay that had been modified for Tibetan fonts. Well, I was already in contact with that owner and he downloaded the fonts before he sold the machine. They are now supported by Solace. If you want to see what a BASIC program looks like in Dzonkha or Devanagri script, I know of no better way than Solace. :-) I've fixed some bugs, improved a few things here and there, but the main new feature is that I've built an integrated debugger. Oh, and this release supplies all the source code and other resources required to build it. Solace web page: http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/solace/solace.html Solace release notes: http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/solace/relnotes.txt Debugger documentation: http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/solace/solace_dbg.html Main Sol web page: http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/sol.html In time I plan on doing more work, but I'm going to take a little time off of that and spend some more time getting Sol docs online so that the three other people who care can make use of them. :-) All suggestions, bug reports, and donations of items for the Sol archive are welcomed. ----- Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net

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Archiving Amiga floppies

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

At 08:58 AM 12/1/00 -0500, you wrote: >Not that I know a lot about the Amiga, but don't some come with ISA slots? >If so, maybe a jumperable NE2000 clone might work on the cheap? The big-box machines (A2000, A3000, A4000) all come with ISA slots, which are inline with the Zorro-II/III slots. The thing is, without a bridgeboard installed, the ISA slots aren't active. They require the bridgeboards, whether from CBM or others, to generate the various signals on the bus. Of course, with them being inline with the Zorro slots, any bridgeboard/ISA combination you install blocks the usage of at least two Zorro slots. Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Power Computing PowerCurve, 288mhz G3, Mac OS 9 http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757 Home Of The TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ

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Mild OT: Parity Apple DIMMs?

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

Is there *any* source for parity lo-pro 60ns DIMMs? Same physical configuration as the DIMMs that go into the 7200-7600 and others, but 60ns and parity or ECC. This is for an Apple Network Server 500, which is basically an overgrown 9500 with six PCI slots, seven drive bays, and no support from Apple. :-( I spent a lot of cash early on making sure all of its 80MB RAM was parity (it can use parity RAM), and I'd really like to make sure that I don't lose that investment! I just found out from Outpost.com that Kingston, the only source I found, doesn't stock them either, so I'm calling them on Monday to check it out (since their website says they do). Any help appreciated. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Intel outside -- 6502 inside! ----------------------------------------------

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Amiga Lucas/Frances boards

by mgregory＠vantageresearch.com

With all this talk of Amigas, it feels like old home week for me. I was wondering if anyone on the list has any information about the Lucas/Frances boards for the A1000. As I recall, Lucas/Frances was a combination 68020 accelerator, RAM expansion, and SCSI controller for the Amiga 1000. It was a pseudo open-source collaboration between several Amiga hackers, based, I believe, in Toronto. The product was sold in kit form, because it radiated radio frequencies in a way the CRTC would not have approved of. By building it yourself, you took on responsibility for becoming a broadcaster, rather than the kit's producer. The kit was very popular in the 1986-88 time frame in Ontario, but there doesn't seem to be much information surviving on the Web or Aminet about it. Does anyone remember this project, have one, or know anyone who was involved? I'd like to research the history of it more thoroughly. Any help appreciated. Regards, Mark.

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Why is it that ...

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> >You bring up a sad point, without Java and Javascript capability, as well >as Frames, etc. you're blocked from a lot of the WWW these days :^( > > Zane Yes the lack of JAVA, frames, no cookies and Activex stuff does limits sites available and more every day. I'd think JAVA would not be that bad on a smaller CPU tough it may be slow. After all it's not that much different than running UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code on z80 or 6502! Allison

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Complete Apple //e with original boxes

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's a lad with a complete Apple //e system including original boxes. Please contact him directly to arrange for an exchange. Reply-to: <krellan(a)krellan.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:35:30 -0800 From: JoSH Lehan <krellan(a)krellan.com> Subject: Apple //e Hi! My family has finally decommissioned our Apple //e that has served us well for 16 years. I am in the process now of transferring its disk images to PC. When I am done with it, I would love to donate the computer instead of just throwing it out. I have: * Apple //e (Enhanced, 128K), in original shipping box! * Two UniDisk disk drives, also in original shipping boxes! * Medium-sized box full of assorted documentation (game manuals, various books, etc.). * Lots of disk holders full of 5.25" disks (about 100-200 disks, total) Would you be interested in this? I also can get, but currently don't have in my possession: * Imagewriter I printer, also in original shipping box * Color Apple monitor, also in original shipping box All this equipment works fine, it's just old and is taking up space here. I'd like to keep it myself, but don't have the space. Would you be interested in it? Josh Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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CAMAC stuff for sale

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I am currently negotiating to buy some Multibus stuff from a gentleman named Anton Auersperg (If anyone else has any Multibus items, please let me know). He asked me to post his list of CAMAC stuff to the list, to see if anyone was interested in it (I am not). Please contact him directly at antall(a)dsuper.net for more details, or to close the deal. He is located in Montreal, Canada. Here's the list: CAMAC system equipment available (Computer Automated Measurement and Control) IEEE 583 qty description 1 Standard Engineering Corporation (S.E.C.) Ultima 3742F CAMAC powered crate; 19" rack mount chassis, 25 slot 1 S.E.C. MIK-11/23 microcomputer system, 16 bit LSI 11/23 (DEC PDP11) supports RT-11 and RSX-11M operating system and all DEC PDP-11 software 2 S.E.C. 300220 MIK-11 memory module 1 S.E.C. peripheral adaptor 1 Data Systems Design DSD-880 data storage; combination winchester and 8" floppy disk drives, 7.8Mb fixed, 1Mb removable 1 S.E.C. E260 8 channel digital to analog converter, 12 bit resolution 1 S.E.C. RTC-018 real time clock, with functions for counting, timing and clocking 1 S.E.C. AR302E isolated input register, 16 optically isolated inputs 1 S.E.C. ORR-12 reed relay contact closure, 12 isolated dry-reed relays 1 S.E.C. IG-604 dual 24-bit interrupt gate; for scanning 48 external inputs for status change, eliminates software scanning 1 GEC IGOR 160206 input gate output register module; general purpose input/output register 1 GEC PAD 160404 32 channel differential input, precision A/D converter; 16 bit resolution, 14 bit accuracy 1 GEC PCI 160901 programmable communications interface; 2 comm ports, either RS232 or RS422 c/w Z80,memory,real-time clock etc. 2 GEC SMC 160303 stepping motor controller 1 GEC SPO 160203 dual 16 bit status in and 8 bit pulse output module 1 Fisher controls ltd. ADC1232-1 32 channel differential input A/D converter 12 bit resolution. 1 Bi-Ra model 32222 dual 24 bit parallel output register module. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- The following literature is available: 1 Data systems design inc. DSD 880x/8 user's guide. with bootable diagnostic diskette. 1 Digital equipment corp. DR11-C general device interface user's manual. 1 Digital equipment corp. LA 120 user guide (decwriter) 1 Digital equipment corp. M8063 SBC-11/21 single board computer user's guide. 2 Digital equipment corp. TECO pocket guide. 3 Digital equipment corp. PDP11 programming card. 2 Digital equipment corp. RT-11 pocket guide. 1 Digital equipment corp. VT55 programming manual (shrink wrapped fresh). 1 SEC MIK-11/23 system manual volume 1. 1 SEC MIK-11/23 system manual volume 2. (drawings) 1 SEC E-260 voltage/current DAC. 1 SEC Ultima 3742F CAMAC powered crate. (drawings) 1 SEC PDP-11/CAMAC support library M 106060 Rev.B volume 2. 1 SEC RTC-018 Real time clock. 1 SEC ORR-12 reed relay module. 1 SEC IG-604 dual 24-bit interrupt gate. 1 SEC WW-006 prototype module. 1 SEC AR 302/E. 1 SEC user's guide to the QUANTROL system. 1 SEC PAB-11 peripheral adaptor. 1 GEC introduction to the CAMAC dataway. 1 GEC IGOR 160206 technical manual. 1 GEC PAD 160404 technical manual.(with schematic blueprint) 1 GEC PAD 160901 technical manual. 2 GEC REB 160905 rigid extender board technical manual. 5 GEC TPM 160805 analog signal conditioning module technical manual. 1 GEC SPO 160203 technical manual. 2 GEC SMC 160303 technical manual. 1 Fisher controls ADC 1232-1 instruction manual 1 BiRa systems inc. model 3222 dual 24 bit parallel output register schematic blue print only. Thanks! Rich B.

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Archiving Amiga floppies

by rachael_＠gmx.net

>I'd like to archive my massive collection of Amiga floppies. >I have tubs and tubs of them. I'd like to end up with >CD-Rs of them, containing disk images accessible under >emulation or that could re-create floppies on demand. >I'm so out of touch with what's possible on the Amiga, >I don't know which tool would best handle the job. It depends if its orginal programs with protection or its cracked copies. If you want to backup orginals you`ll have to use a warper, it reads the raw MFM data of the tracks and stores that. Otherwise just download http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/pub/aminet/util/sys/Dev-Handler.lha and install it, after you have mountet DEV: you can do a simple copy dev:df0 dh0:MyGame.adf, it will now make a sector image of the floppy that you can use with UAE and it is easy to transfere it back to a disk. Or get http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/pub/aminet/disk/misc/adfblitzer.lha it is the same, just it has a gui. Regards Jacob Dahl Pind Public Pgp key available on request -------------------------------------------------- = IF this computer is with us now... = =...It must have been meant to come live with us.= = (Belldandy - Goddess First class) = --------------------------------------------------

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RX02 drive emulation

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

-----Original Message----- From: David Gesswein <djg(a)drs-esg.com> >>Do look. the two are very different. >> >I don't know if anybody is still interested... >I scanned the RX02 technical manual and it is now online >http://www.pdp8.net/pdp8cgi/query_docs/view.pl?table=pdp8docs&id=139 The RX28 added DMA, the RX02 drives while the same physical disk drive (bare) the two controller cards are very different. The older RX01 used TTL of the 7489 and 74181 for its controller while the later RX02 was 2901/2911 based. Allison

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UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jerome Fine <jhfine(a)idirect.com> >Having never used Pascal very much, I have not followed this thread very well, >but I can comment on this question. RT-11 does not normally distinguish >between different devices. If the RX50 is DU0:, then the command: >ASSIGN DU0: DK: True for RT11. UCSD P-system is NOT RT11 nor does it use it, it is a stand alone OS with embedded applications and it's own menu driven UI.

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Why is it that ...

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

-----Original Message----- From: THETechnoid(a)home.com <THETechnoid(a)home.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Friday, December 01, 2000 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Why is it that ... >In <003101c05b2b$7bac3aa0$2d799a8d@ajp166>, on 12/01/00 > at 08:56 AM, "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net> said: > >You mean I was supposed to PAY for all those copies of Mbasic?! According to Billy G we all stole it. Mine was the $$$+memory for altair deal followed by another 75$ for a working copy (update!). MS compiled basic for CP/M as memory serves was either 350$ or 500$US and it was buggy. >Cbasic is ok, but I can't stand writing without an interpreter. Cbasic was pretty neat as was S-basic. Allison

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Archiving Amiga floppies

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > At 11:16 AM 11/30/00 -0800, you wrote: > >This reminds me - does anyone here have an ethernet card that would work > >in an Amiga 2000? I've got one I'd like to put on the 'net. > > The last time I checked, Amiga ethernet cards were quite expensive still, > though things could've changed in a year since I moved off an Amiga 4000 to > my Power Mac clone. If you have a bridgeboard though and a PC ISA ethernet > card, there used to be a couple of programs on Aminet that would allow you > to access the ISA ethernet card from the Amiga side. It was a bit of a > kludge, but was reported to have worked. I still have new, in-the-box GG2 Bus+ bridge cards w/original warranty. They come with NE2000 drivers (along with other, non-NIC drivers) but there are also SMC/WesternDigital drivers on the web page (http://penguincentral.com/GG2/) I've mentioned it before to no great response, but I like to let people know there's still an alternative out there. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Hyperion manuals

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

Hello, Now that I'm moved and somewhat settled in, I thought now would be a good time to ask this. I have a couple of extra manuals for the Dynalogic Hyperion. I believe I have two extra User's manuals and one extra Porgrammer's manual. They are the standard 3 ring binder in the heavy cardboard slipcase of the period. If anyone has a need for them, drop me a note. Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Power Computing PowerCurve, 288mhz G3, Mac OS 9 http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757 Home Of The TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ

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GG2 Bus+ (was Re: Archiving Amiga floppies)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > At 03:06 PM 11/30/00 -0800, you wrote: > >I still have new, in-the-box GG2 Bus+ bridge cards w/original warranty. > They come with NE2000 drivers (along with other, non-NIC drivers) but there > are also SMC/WesternDigital drivers on the web page > >(http://penguincentral.com/GG2/) > > Hi Ethan, > > That's pretty cool...I don't remember seeing anything on those before. It's been around for a long time. My first ISA bridge for the Amiga was "The Wedge" - IIRC, about $200-something in 1987 - 8-bit only with drivers for only the WesternDigital WX-1 and clones. I got an ST-225 w/Everex WX-1 card (larger than the real thing, unfortunately, because it was hanging off the side of the Amiga and blocked the mouse port - I had to make an extension cable). It was about 200kb/sec because the 8Mhz 68K was wheezing along doing 8-bit PIO. I put together a 20Mb disk solution for $500 out-of-pocket when a CLtd. SCSI system was ~$1000. Think about that compared to today - $50 per meg! After that came the Golden Gate II Bridge Card by David Salomon. When he graduated in 1994, he put up the designs and manufacturing rights for sale; I bought them. The part that keeps this on topic is that while the card is <10 years old, it goes in Amiga 2000s, Amiga 3000s, etc., from 1990 and before. > How much do they generally go for? $99.95, MSRP. I'll throw in free ground shipping as a bonus to anyone on the list (and an ISA NIC while my limited supplies last). Blank boards and a parts list are $10 plus shipping (got more than I'll ever make). > I was referring to some of the shareware stuff on Aminet that had a driver > actually running on the Bridgeboard CPU, passing stuff from it to the Amiga > side. The extra layer seemed to slow it down a little but it was a viable > alternative for those that had the Bridgeboards and a cheap ISA NIC card. Right. I knew about that but I never tried it either. I have a couple of A2088 bridge cards but not enough time to fiddle with it. > ...I already had full slots with my GVP Spectrum, DKB SCSI board and Emplant > Deluxe. That's been the problem lately - most Amiga power users who want networking have already filled their machines. A two-slot Ethernet solution isn't viable for someone willing to drop the money for networking in the first place. > I always like my various Amiga's....it's too bad that even the A4000 > would no longer meet my needs for an 'everyday' machine. Browsing and watching mpegs are why my A4000 is no longer my everyday machine. I used to read news, write code, do e-mail, etc., all from my A1000 (then A3000, then A4000) from 1986 through about 1997 or so. I am ashamed to admit that I just don't use my Amiga much anymore. I suppose Linux hacking has displaced that sector of my time. It's a pity; they were *fun* machines. I spent a lot of time writing code and fiddling with the hardware (my A1000 has a Rejuvinator, a Spirit Inboard, a Starboard and a ROM switcher - OS1.3 and OS2.x, 5Mb RAM, SCSI - about as far as you can take it without adding slots). -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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PCC2000 Rescue

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, Meant to put this in the last post, but..... Anton Auersperg, antall(a)dsuper.net, also has a PCC2000, headed for the scrap heap. He describes it thusly: It's a desktop unit with 12" screen and 2 8"drives. I think its Z80 and runs wordstar. It weighs over 100lbs. It's already in my truck headed for the scrap heap. I don't have any software for it. Is it worth saving? It has 2 key buttons missing, the bottom and side at the back is a little rusty. Anyone want it? Please contact him directly.... Rich B.

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Free 6100 System, SF Bay Area only (fwd)

by optimus＠canit.se

I got this on the Vintage Macs list. I'm not sure if it's still there, but give it a try. -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. Wenn ich ein Junge w?r / das wu?te ich so gut / was so ein junger Boy / aus lauter Liebe tut /?ich w?rde in die Schwulenscene gehn /?und sexy Boys den Kopf verdrehn / ich h?tt genug Verkehr / wenn ich ein Junge w?r. Wenn ich ein Junge w?hr - Nina Hagen

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DaynaFile 2

by mark_k＠iname.com

Hi, On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 Louis Schulman wrote: > Does someone know the voltage of the external power supply > (mine is missing); My Daynafile has two 5.25" drives, 360K and 1.2MB. Its power supply uses a 5-pin DIN connector. Output is rated at +5V 2.0A, +12V 0.5A, -12V 0.5A. (I can't imagine the -12V is used.) My unit is probably not a Daynafile II though; apparently the II used a different type of power supply. > Does someone have the software. I have downloaded the two > .hqx files, but they are password protected. Doh! Anyone > know how to crack password protection on an .hqx file? The hqx extension indicates that the files have been encoded using BinHex. This is basically a Mac equivalent of uuencoding, except it knows about resource and data forks. >From memory, the two files DaynaFile3_1.hqx and DaynaFILE4_1.hqx are password- protected StuffIt archives when you un-binhex them. The Read_Before_Downloading file which used to be on ftp.dayna.com (that server is down now, unsurprisingly) said: --- cut here --- DAYNAFILE READ ME These files are for use with the DaynaFILE and non-PCI based Macintosh machines. Beware that these files are PASSWORD PROTECTED. Version 3.1 of the software is free of charge, and requires no ROM upgrade. Version 4.1 is not free of charge and requires a ROM upgrade. For information on passwords or ROM upgrades, please contact: support(a)dayna.com --- cut here --- Intel's "support" for Dayna products is pathetic, not much point in asking them for help. My DaynaFile has EPROM version 3.1. If anyone has a Daynafile with a later version EPROM, please let me know! To determine EPROM version, you need to take the unit apart. I would also like to know the password for the DaynaFILE4_1 file. Ideally, the updated EPROM would allow the drives to be used with any computer with a SCSI interface. -- Mark

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Moonraker MAC card & car full of MAC stuff -- help me identify....

by kapteynr＠cboe.com

Maybe you already know this, but the special video card might not be necessary. I have a Radius Pivot monitor too, which I use on the regular video output of my PowerMac 6100. There are different kinds of Pivots, but with mine you just need to know a little trick -- boot the computer with the monitor in the horizontal position and the computer will identify its resolution correctly. After the computer is booted, you can rotate it vertical. There is a software extension that make this unnecessary, but I lost it and haven't had time to find it again. -Rob -----Original Message----- From: Jim Strickland [SMTP:jim@calico.litterbox.com] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 7:28 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Moonraker MAC card & car full of MAC stuff -- help me identify.... I have one for an se/30, would that be of any help? If so it's yours for the cost of shipping. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lawrence Walker" <lgwalker(a)look.ca> > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 11:43 AM > Subject: Re: Moonraker MAC card & car full of MAC stuff -- help me > identify.... > > > > Hi Claude. Nice score. > > I'm interested in one of the Supermac cards. I've had this nice > > 19' Supermac monitor (a rebadged Sony 1950GDM) for some time > > without any way of using it. :^( > > > > On a related note, does anyone have a Nubus card that can drive a Radius > 17" pivot monitor that they're willing to part with? I have the monitor, > but haven't been able to locate a matching card. Willing to negotiate cash > deal or trade. > > Thanks, > Mark. > -- Jim Strickland jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- BeOS Powered! -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Moonraker MAC card & car full of MAC stuff -- help me identify....

by claudew＠sprint.ca

Hi I got a "all you can fill your car full of MAC stuff for $20" from a MAC shop that closed and had to vacate premises... Several cards I cant identify. I am no mac expert. Who can volunteer to receive some pics of some of these to help me sort these out? Anyway....Picked up several compact MACs (12), some original 128/512 keyboards, lot of Supermac video cards, IIsi, some non 10 year old stuff (quadras etc...), network cards for compact macs (?)etc...could of taken more, got tired and basement just so big...lots ethernet cards for II series macs (bnc)...some cards i have no idea (well a bit but...) what they do... An interesting one in there is a Moonraker card (1989-1990) seems to be nu bus card for video capture -- curious to get more info on this one...I think it was made by a company called WTI or something...anybody know more about this one or wheer I can get the software perhaps for it...? I looked around a bit on net but found close to nothing... Thanks for reading Claude

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