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classiccmp-digest V1 #524 (on RS6000/340)

by kebabthesheep＠yahoo.com

> From: Russ Blakeman <russ(a)rbcs.8m.com> > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 1:47 PM > Subject: RE: EBAY - RS/6000 Powerserver 340 > > > > Does Linux/Unix run on the 7012-340 as well or is it strictly AIX? (more > > curious than anything) > > MCA RS6k only run AIX. No Linux support yet and I dont think there ever will > be... > I wouldn't be so sure. There is: http://www.sjdjweis.com/linux/rs6k/ at least, but there appears to be a slot available for porting netbsd to this: http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/#suggested-powerpc i've seem a fair bit of other interest. I have two MCA RS6000s myself, and am interested in working on porting linux/netbsd to it. Unfortunantly I have: a) little knowledge of the hardware b) No way of getting a console - my monitors won't sync on the video signal (I have several types of graphics card available) and serial console doesn't work. I does however boot AIX quite happily c) No time at the moment - maybe in autumn i'll be free I do however have a spare powerstation 340 ( I think - I need to check) as well as many spare memory boards (full populated) spare ram sticks, video boards, cpus, disks, floppies, etc... I'm in the UK, so anybody over here (or in the US/Europe for that matter) needs any of the spare bits, or possibly a complete system - let me know :) Dave. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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RZ,nI: Claude Shannon

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Ohh, so a contemporary of Vannevar Bush, in other words? I may have misspelled his first name, too.. but hey I tried ;p Thanks for the enlightenment Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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NeXT MO disks

by mark_k＠iname.com

Hi, A question about MO disks and the Canon MO drive installed in some NeXT cube computers. I know NeXT MO disks are single-sided, commonly quoted as having a capacity of 256MB. Canon used to make document imaging systems with built-in 500MB MO drives for data storage. These used double-sided disks of around 250MB per side. They also made the Diskfile 5001S, an external SCSI MO drive. The Diskfile 5001S allowed data from the document imaging systems to be transferred to computer, and also functioned as a general-purpose storage device. I just received a Diskfile 5001S drive. Currently I do not have any disks for this. Two disks will be sent to me eventually. What I would like to know is: can the Diskfile 5001S (and Canofile document imaging systems) read and/or write NeXT MO disks? Not at the file level of course, but at the sector level. Does anyone have a NeXT MO disk which I can borrow? I would like to see whether the Diskfile 5001S can read it. Not having a NeXT computer, the filesystem will not be recognised, but I could use a dd-like utility to (hopefully) obtain an image file of all user sectors. I would keep the disk write-protected. If you can help, please contact me by email. If the 5001S drive is compatible with NeXT disks, it could be useful for people who have NeXT disks but no working NeXT MO drive. -- Mark

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Tatung Einstein disks

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 19, 15:03, DOUG PEKSA - COMPG wrote: > I've had a Tatung Einstein for some time but have no OS to > use with it. Anyone have Xtal/DOS (correct?) for the Einstein > - I've a few spare blank 2nd. user 3.0" disks (ten or more) > to swap for the 3.0" disk(s) supplied with the Einstein. A friend of mine has a working Einstein and thinks he has Xtaldos and possibly another OS (pseudo-CP/M?) for a 40-column system. There was apparently a genuine CP/M version for an 80-column machine, but he doesn't have the 80-column add-on, nor real CP/M. Unfortunately, he's about to go on holiday, so it will be at least a couple of weeks before he can look for disks, but I've saved your mail, and will remind him. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Looking for Query/36

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

I've got RPG for the /36. Don't know if that interests you or not? Steve Robertson >From: Owen Robertson <univac(a)earthlink.net> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: Classic Computer Mailing List <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Looking for Query/36 >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:11:53 -0600 > >I just picked up an IBM System/36 (5362) yesterday. It works perfectly, and >(thankfully) had no password security. It has the Interactive Data >Definition Utility, but not Query/36. I was really hoping to use it for >something, and I was wondering if anyone has Query/36 on 8" diskettes. I >have it on 5.25" disks, but not 8". Also if any one has any of the >programming languages (BASIC, COBOL, etc...) I could use those too. > >Thanks, >Owen > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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HP-UX cd update

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

OK, guys. I looked at the box, and it's too confusing for me to list everything here, given that I'm not familiar with the various distros and all the associated patches and stuff (which, I believe, is official terminology....) Therefore, to be fair to everyone, I am proposing that someone who does know what the heck all this is act as librarian and get those bits that are needed to those that need them. I would ship the whole kit'n'kaboodle (again, proper terminology...) to that person, and wash my hands of the whole pile. That way, I don't accidentally mis-describe (I'm on a roll here....) something and send the wrong discs to someone. Sound like a plan? If you're willing to be librarian, email me off-list and we'll work out shipping arrangements. I just want to be helpful..... Paul Braun WD9GCO Cygnus Productions nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com "A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without a bunch of bricks tied to its head."

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Wanted: HP Application Notes

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Hi All, I'm still adding to my collection of HP stuff. One fo the things that I'm looking for are the HP Application Notes, particurly the ones dealing with their computers and calculators. Does anyone have any that they're willing to part with? Joe

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CC-40

by mark_k＠iname.com

Hi, On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 "James B. DiGriz" wrote: > What I'd like to know is how compatible the Mac NuBus is with the > S1500 implementation. That is, can you take Mac NuBus cards and use them > in an S1500, given Unix drivers for them? Also to this end, which Mac > cards are likely to have driver sources and/or complete technical > specifications available to a peon hacker? Mostly interested in TIGA A Mac I bought some time ago has a ComputerEyes video capture NuBus board, made by Digital Vision. From memory, this contains only standard chips, so it should be relatively easy to reverse-engineer. If anyone knows where to get Mac driver software for this board, *please* let me know. Digital Vision are no longer around. -- Mark

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RZ,nI: Claude Shannon

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Who's that? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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NeXT MO disks

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Mark wrote: >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:22:02 +0000 >From: Mark <mark_k(a)iname.com> >Subject: NeXT MO disks ... >I know NeXT MO disks are single-sided, commonly quoted as having a capacity of >256MB. I have heard of (but not seen) dual-sided NeXT MO disks. 256MB/side, total 512MB, but you have to eject it and physically turn it over to access the other side. I never understood why those existed until now. >What I would like to know is: can the Diskfile 5001S (and Canofile document >imaging systems) read and/or write NeXT MO disks? Interesting question! >Does anyone have a NeXT MO disk which I can borrow? Probably. I definitely have some "bad" disks which my OD can't read, which you can have (and may be able to resurrect with dd or whatever). I may also have a "good" disk not in use at the moment, which I can lend you for experimentation. I'll sort through my pile of OD's and see which I can spare. >If the 5001S >drive is compatible with NeXT disks, it could be useful for people who have >NeXT disks but no working NeXT MO drive. ;-) I like to think I could be useful to such people too. Either by describing how to clean the dirt out of their MO drive (which is often all it needs) or by properly dispositioning their unwanted disks... ;-) - Mark

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HP-UX software site

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

I've also been frustrated by the lack of downloadable S800 software. The one notable exception is the Informix site. Seems like most of the packages that I've downloaded from there run without any problem. It took awhile but, I was finally able to compile gcc on a S800 box. For some reason, I was have trouble installing downloaded packages using SWINSTALL so, now I just tar them into the directory that I want. Ever since I've started doing that, the installs are working a lot better. Of course all those failed build attempts have taught me something about the configuration and build procedure which will certainly increase the success rate. I have been able to install most of the other packages from the HPUX site on my 800 series boxes but still have problems with some of the larger apps. In particular the PERL installation is causing me to pull out what's left of my hair.... AARG!!! If anyone needs assistance installing "stuff" on a S800, I'll be glad to assist. Steve Robertson >From: Jarkko Teppo Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org To: >classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: HP-UX software site Date: Tue, 27 >Feb 2001 13:33:41 +0200 > >On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 01:12:21AM -0800, Mike Ford wrote: > I haven't >really looked this over, but "seems" interesting for HP-UX fans > >http://hpux.cs.utah.edu/ (its a mirror of a UK site). > >Too bad it's mostly s700 :) Finding s300/s400 packages can be a pain, and >if you don't have the aCC compiler or gcc you're normally out of luck. >Combine this with the fact that trying to compile gcc with the standard >compiler is ,mildly put, interesting.. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Popular Computing on eBay for $150+

by mnadeau＠editservices.com

These issues aren't really that rare: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1215791412 Michael Nadeau Editorial Services 603-893-2379

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DEC option identification

by broth＠heathers.stdio.com

I have a DEC backplane that accompanied a TU56 that is tagged as a PA68F. Does anyone know what this is? Brian.

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QVT103 terminal

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Well, if it is similar to the QVT-102, then I have the manual for the '102, and if that'd be helpful... I don't think that the two models are very different really... The QVT-102's that I have came with my 3B2, yuck, I really am desiring genuine AT&T/Teletype video terminals. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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osborne manuals

by aek＠spies.com

I've been getting lots of mail like this since I was slashdotted.. I'll forward this to the list as appropriate -al --- From: "Donald R. Resor" <}{ammond(a)theatreorgans.com> To: <aek(a)spies.com> Subject: Osborne 1 books and software Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:52:48 -0800 Organization: Tone Wheel & Tone Cabinet Svc. Co. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-MDRcpt-To: aek(a)spies.com X-MDRemoteIP: 64.200.10.148 X-Return-Path: }{ammond(a)theatreorgans.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aek(a)spies.com Hello, I have a couple user reference manuals for the Osborne 1, one is spiral bound and the other ring bound. I also have a couple boxes of floppies with assorted software for this system. Interested? I believe the Osborne 1 was pre 1980. Thanks Donald R. Resor Jr. Tone Wheel & Tone Cabinet Svc. Co. Los Angeles, California http://go.to/tonewheels

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EBAY - RS/6000 Powerserver 340

by russ＠rbcs.8m.com

In case anyone is interested I have a model 340 type 7012-340 server on ebay at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1217407642

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Who was first with ^Z^X^C^V editing shortcuts

by optimus＠canit.se

McFadden, Mike skrev: >Aren't there TECO commands that perform these or similar functions. One of few impressive features in the Atari ST is the UNDO key, next to the HELP key. It's a miracle that when they decided to revise the PC keyboard, they decided to add three bloody (useless) Windows keys instead of real useful keys such as CUT, COPY, PASTE, UNDO, HELP OR COMMAND. -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. Hackers do it with fewer instructions.

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QVT103 terminal

by eric-no-spam-for-me＠brouhaha.com

Stan Barr wrote: > I have a Qume QVT103 terminal (I'm using with the E11 PDP emulator running > on an old 486) - does anyone know how to program the PF1-4 keys? At the > moment they try to run some non-existent commands ;-( Jerome Fine <jhfine(a)idirect.com> writes: > Something is wrong here. Assuming that the QVT103 is the same as a DEC > VT103, It's not even similar. It's just a dumb terminal.

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TI Microexplorer software/info wanted for web page

by dannydz＠mailandnews.com

Hi all! I have a TI Microexplorer machine, which is a Mac II with a TI Explorer nubus LISP coprocessor card installed. You may see a picture of my LISP card at http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/da/dannydz/explorer.jpg I obtained the machine from my university's surplus sale. Original price about US$14,999. Configuration: 5 MB RAM, two 800K disk drives, 80 MB hard drive. It dates from 1988. There is no web site or existing software archive on the entire internet about this machine, so I want to make one. I have a copy of the software, which came with the machine on its hard drive, but it doesn't work. My machine was infected by nVIR B and had some hard drive corruption when I got it. I can arrange to trade software with anyone. I have a fast FTP site available. The compressed archive is quite big, because the card has its own 18 MB virtual drive file. I also have a copy of Coral Macintosh Allegro Common Lisp 1.3.1 which is the predecessor to MCL (Macintosh Common Lisp). I also have CLIPS version 4.30, a product of the A.I. division of NASA, Johnson Space Center http://www.ghg.net/clips/CLIPS.html If you know anyone with a copy of the Microexplorer software or can give me any leads, I would be grateful. I've already sent emails to the individuals who previously posted to ClassiCmp about this machine. I will eventually make a complete website for this card and arrange for some mirrors. I asked in news:comp.sys.ti.explorer but haven't received a response yet. thanks, Daniel Vancouver, BC, CANADA

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Neat find: Maxx Steele Robot

by salgueir＠club-internet.fr

Bonjour je possède un robot maxx qui fonctionne il ne me manque que le chargeur je le vends 15000fr soit 2200 dollards si interessé mail me :-)))

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QVT103 terminal

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>Jerome Fine replies: > >Something is wrong here. Assuming that the QVT103 is the same as a DEC >VT103, then what you have is a real PDP-11 (limited of course to a VERY >small backplane and power supply) along with the equivalent of a VT100. DEC VT103 was a PDP-11 based smart terminal. However there was a VT103 varient that was just a souped up VT100. Anywho Qume never did a PDP-11 based machine only knock offs of the VT100 and VT200 terminals lines. >If you have taken out the PDP-11 boards from the QVT103 backplane - or >just left them there and are using the QVT103 as a terminal running under >E11 on a 486, then you also don't say how the QVT103 is connected to the >PC - via a COM port? These details are important since they clarify the >system you are using. E11 is an emulator, so I bet he's running QVT (windows VT100/200 terminal emulator). There were many variations of the QVT program. Allison

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QVT103 terminal

by stanb＠dial.pipex.com

Hi, I have a Qume QVT103 terminal (I'm using with the E11 PDP emulator running on an old 486) - does anyone know how to program the PF1-4 keys? At the moment they try to run some non-existent commands ;-( -- Cheers, Stan Barr stanb(a)dial.pipex.com The future was never like this!

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Various bits available

by djg＠drs-esg.com

Work had the following on the to dumpster table, they will be gone Monday morning. If anybody wants the following let me know. You pay shipping plus $5 for dealing with it. All equipment given away as is. Most worked when removed from service but any dead units they had were probably stuck in the same pile. If you wish more than one of an item let me know how many you want. On the off chance that I have more takers the one that offers PDP-8 stuff in trade gets it. Email me directly by 9am Monday if you are interested. TRS80 Model 100 In black case, no other accessories or options. Seems to work when I put batteries in. Decserver 200/MC (DECNet terrminal server, used with our vax, have several) DEC DELNI (AUI bridge) DEC LA30N printer (have several) DEC LA75 printer DEC LQP02 printer DEC LK201 keyboard (have two) Okidata 321 printer HP Thinlan hub 28692A 10B2 (thin coax) hub Multitech Statistical Muxes MM904C/96 4 port with v.29 9600 bps modem and 4 port upgrade (have 2) MMH3232C 32 port with 64k Multitech leased line modem MT1932BC, up to 19.2k These were around when I took inventory at lunch but I didn't see them when I left. Somebody else probably grabbed them but if you had your heart set on one I will check further. Infocus 480. 8 shade grey scale 640x480 LCD to put on overhead In box with some manuals cables etc Gridcase 1550sx. Computers seem to work, one no display, other screen doesn't sync properly so is not readable. Data General one David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computers with blinkenlights

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Northstar disk controller family tree

by frustum＠pacbell.net

I'm starting work on adding support for a Northstar disk controller to my Sol emulator program. Before I start writing code, I figured I'd see if anybody could clarify the relationship of the various Northstar disk controller boards I have either seen on ebay or I've seen mentioned on the web: 1) "Micro-Disk System MDS-A" 2) "MICRO-DISK MDS-A-D DOUBLE DENSITY" (I have the manual to this) 3) MDS-AD2 4) MDC-A2 5) MDC-A3 6) MDC-A4 (I have one of these but haven't tried it yet) ... and others? I assume that #3 is just a different name for #2. How do they compare? Does anybody have programming/technical docs for the ones that I don't have? If it isn't a stretch (and I'd assume it isn't, since they are all from Northstar), I would like to add support for the other disk controllers, but without the docs that won't happen. My real Sol has a "Micro Complex Phase Lock II" disk controller in it, which is compatible with the MDS-AD2 (I think) [ single/double density disk controller ]. I also have an MDC-A4 board, but no docs on it, so I haven't played with it. Thanks for any information, code, tips, vague recollections... ----- Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net

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Northstar disk controller family tree

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jim Battle <frustum(a)pacbell.net> >anybody could clarify the relationship of the various Northstar disk >controller boards I have either seen on ebay or I've seen mentioned on the web: > > 1) "Micro-Disk System MDS-A" > 2) "MICRO-DISK MDS-A-D DOUBLE DENSITY" (I have the manual to this) > 3) MDS-AD2 > 4) MDC-A2 > 5) MDC-A3 > 6) MDC-A4 (I have one of these but haven't tried it yet) > ... and others? Ok, there are only two different controllers there. The single density MDS-An {single density} and the MDS-ADn{dual density}. The MDS-AD does both single density and double where the original MDS-A only can do single. The numeric variation stand for minor board variations. If you compare carefully you will see in the MDS-A series that some do not do all the pads for the etched edge connector. They are identical otherwise. >How do they compare? Does anybody have programming/technical docs for the >ones that I don't have? If it isn't a stretch (and I'd assume it isn't, There are only two sets of docs to worry about. They are common enough. I have both likely other do, copying them is problematic for me at this time {the extreme lack of}. >since they are all from Northstar), I would like to add support for the >other disk controllers, but without the docs that won't happen. The only other controller is in the NS* Advantage, uses the same basic design and read the same medias. >My real Sol has a "Micro Complex Phase Lock II" disk controller in it, Never heard of it. Allison

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[oldcalcs] Intel old chips

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I thought this might be of interest to this list. Joe>From: "James Redin" <james(a)dotpoint.com> >Subject: [oldcalcs] Intel old chips > >Dear friends, > >I posted today in the Album section of my Website some pictures provided by >Stanley Mazor, the co-inventor of the microprocessor, showing the internals >of the early Intel chips. The pictures may be accessed as follows: > >VINTAGE CALCULATORS --> ELECTRONIC --> ALBUM --> "I" for Intel. > >As an interesting historical detail, one of the pictures is a photo of an >old Intel towel souvenir designed by Mr. Shima while he was working for >Intel during the development of the early micro-processors. It has on it >the circuit schematic (transistor level) for the MCS-4 (4004) 4-bit adder >and accumulator. It is also posted in the Album along with some comments >from Mr. Mazor. > >While there, you may want to read the article: > >The History of the Microcomputer - Invention and Evolution - by Stanley >Mazor, > >posted in the Articles section. > > >James Redin >The X-Number World >http://www.dotpoint.com/xnumber >mailto:james@dotpoint.com > > > >------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-~> >eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups >Click here for more details >http://us.click.yahoo.com/kWP7PD/pYNCAA/4ihDAA/gWadlB/TM >---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> > >To Post a message, send it to: oldcalcs(a)eGroups.com >To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: oldcalcs-unsubscribe(a)eGroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

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Wicat 68000 based system ...

by optimus＠canit.se

William S. Morgart skrev: > Thanks but unless the docs are hardware related like at the device >programming level they're probably of not much use to me since I intend (or >would like to) use it as a base 68k platform ... ie put another OS on it.. I'm going to be nosy and direct: what OS? -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. We have support for the PMAGC-B's on pmax right? That is a PixelVision based card right? I see Bt 463, that chip looks bigger than the 21164! Just looking at it makes me want to write an Xserver! Chris Tribo, NetBSD/pmax

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Sun keyboard cable? Straight thru?

by optimus＠canit.se

Claude.W skrev: >Perhaps you have seen my messages on starting up a sparc2. I am a sun >newbie.... ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> ><HTML><HEAD> Not to mention a newbie in general... -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. And don't tell me there isn't one bit of difference between null and space, because that's exactly how much difference there is. :-) --Larry Wall in <10209(a)jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>

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[dave@farber.net: IP: Can anyone help?]

by ecloud＠bigfoot.com

Please reply to Mr. Galler. ----- Forwarded message from David Farber <dave(a)farber.net> ----- To: ip-sub-1(a)majordomo.pobox.com From: David Farber <dave(a)farber.net> Subject: IP: Can anyone help? >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:41:01 -0500 (EST) >X-Sender: galler(a)g.imap.itd.umich.edu >To: Interesting.People(a)umich.edu >From: "Bernard A. Galler" <galler(a)umich.edu> >Subject: IP: Can anyone help? >Cc: farber(a)linc.cis.upenn.edu, paint26(a)cwo.com > >A member of my family, now deceased, left his memoirs on what are described >to me as large AppleWriter disks, and we would like to retrieve the >contents. Does anyone know where we could get the contents converted to >more modern media? Thank you. >Bernie Galler > > > >Bernard A. Galler >E-mail: galler(a)umich.edu >Fax: 734-668-9998 For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- _______ Shawn T. Rutledge / KB7PWD ecloud(a)bigfoot.com (_ | |_) http://www.bigfoot.com/~ecloud kb7pwd(a)kb7pwd.ampr.org __) | | \________________________________________________________________

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Sun keyboard cable? Straight thru?

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi Perhaps you have seen my messages on starting up a sparc2. I am a sun newbie.... Should the mini din8 cable to the keyboard be straight thru or have some pins crossed over? I opened up the type5 keyboard I have connected (sparc2 does not ID the keyboard...) and checked the 74LS06 chip where the rx-tx should be coming thru and I feel the chip heating up...abnormaly... Something tells me my cable to the keyboard may have the wrong config...Its not an original SUN one... I found the pinout for the keyboard but what about the connector at the sparc2 end...??? Claude

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Who was first with ^Z^X^C^V editing shortcuts

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Aren't there TECO commands that perform these or similar functions. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Who was first with ^Z^X^C^V editing shortcuts?

by eric-no-spam-for-me＠brouhaha.com

"Edwin P. Groot" <epgroot(a)ucdavis.edu> writes: > A thought occured to me as I was trying to figure out setting up > X-Windows to use certain editing shortcuts: > ^Z = Undo > ^X = Cut > ^C = Copy > ^V = Paste ;how the ^H^H^H^H does a v represent insert text from cut > buffer? > These are ubiquitous now in Windows programs, but who came up with > this group of editing shortcuts that cluster so neatly on the bottom left > of the keyboard, right by the Ctrl key back in the early micros? The Apple Lisa, introduced in January 1983. It wasn't the control key, though. It was the Apple key. But the principle's the same.

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Who was first with ^Z^X^C^V editing shortcuts?

by epgroot＠ucdavis.edu

A thought occured to me as I was trying to figure out setting up X-Windows to use certain editing shortcuts: ^Z = Undo ^X = Cut ^C = Copy ^V = Paste ;how the ^H^H^H^H does a v represent insert text from cut buffer? These are ubiquitous now in Windows programs, but who came up with this group of editing shortcuts that cluster so neatly on the bottom left of the keyboard, right by the Ctrl key back in the early micros? My bets are Microsoft stole it from Apple. I don't recall this from WordStar, with its myriad of Ctrl key combinations. One problem with ^C in CP/M and DOS is they would promptly take you to the OS prompt from most programs. Regards, Edwin

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Sun type5 keyboard on Sparc2

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 22, Claude.W wrote: > I got the Sparc2 a few weeks ago and cant get it to see the type5 keyboard I have to try it out with. > > I only have that one keyboard to test this so I don't know if there is a problem with the keyboard, sparc2, or its just that a type5 does not work on a sparc2. > > When I power on the keyboard, the leds flash on the keyboard (power ok to keyboard) , but I get a message on the sparc it cant ID the keyboard. > > I am suspecting the serial line trans/receiver chips for the keyboard serial line maybe have gone bad on the sparc, is that a frequent failure? Ill probe with a scope if I have to... That's not a frequent failure. I'd suspect a toasty keyboard. Can you get your hands on a different one to try? (The type5 works just fine on ss2s.) -Dave McGuire

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Wicat 68000 based system ...

by morgarws＠molbio.sbphrd.com

I've got one (S-1255 about the size of a 2 drawer file cabinet)! But I've got no documentation on it or on any of its multibus boards. Does anybody have any info on it (or any 68k based wicat hardware)? Regards, Bill Morgart morgarws(a)molbio.sbphrd.com

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IBM 6360 8 inch drive

by foxvideo＠wincom.net

Does anyone have any information on the type 6360 drive? It was originally part of a word processor. It has one 37 pin female DB, one 25 pin male DB and AC. Thanks Charlie Fox Chas E. Fox Video Productions 793 Argyle Rd. Windsor ON N8Y 3J8 foxvideo(a)wincom.net Check out: The Old Walkerville Virtual Museum at http://skyboom.com/foxvideo and Camcorder Kindergarten at http://chasfoxvideo.com

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8080 Complier Recommendation

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Dick: Indeed. I'd prefer to stick with the Intel nemonics since the source files that I have to compile, er, assemble, use the Intel nemonics. Rich -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 2:39 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: 8080 Complier Recommendation The mnemonics are quite different for the Z80, though. I think he wants to stick with the Intel mnemonics, which are quite different from Zilog's and which some folks find somewhat easier to decipher. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin P. Groot" <epgroot(a)ucdavis.edu> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 12:08 AM Subject: Re: 8080 Complier Recommendation > Are you talking about an ::assembler::? If so, Z-80 doesn't matter as > an assembler for the 8080, since Z-80 is a superset of 8080. Just don't use > the Z-80 - specific opcodes. TASM reminds me of Borland Turbo Assembler. > With regards to a higher-level language compiler, there might be > directives to specify 8080 or Z-80 opcodes in the object file. > > Edwin > > At 16:02 2/22/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Hello, all: > > > > Does anyone have a "favorite" compiler recommendation for the 8080? > >I have TASM, which I like for the 6502, but it only does the Z80, which has > >different opcodes. Thanks. > > > >Rich Cini > >

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8080 Complier Recommendation

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: Does anyone have a "favorite" compiler recommendation for the 8080? I have TASM, which I like for the 6502, but it only does the Z80, which has different opcodes. Thanks. Rich Cini http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/

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8080 Complier Recommendation

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Dick: I misspoke. I do indeed need an assembler. I had just finished using VC++ when I wrote that email :-) Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:03 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: 8080 Complier Recommendation First of all, TASM isn't a compiler is it? The versions of TASM I have are a set of table-driven assemblers for a number of microcontrollers and microprocessors. I personally like the CP/M (Digital Research) MASM assembler, which I've had since Christ was a corporal and I use it under the Z80MU CP/M emulator, though that's not a requirement. You could, of course use any of a number of CP/M emulators, of which I imagine almost all CP/M-ers have at least two favorites. If you're looking for a compiler that supports the 8080, you need an older version of AZTEC 'C' (assuming that compiler means 'C' compiler to you) which is very similar, I'm told, to the CC65 for the 6502. There are, of course, countless others. One notable free compiler is the HiTech (Pacific) 'C' compiler for the Z80, of which there's also a free version for the PC. Most of the oldies are written to the K & R vision of 'C' rather than ANSI, which didn't have a standard back in the '80's. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cini, Richard" <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> To: "'ClassCompList'" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: 8080 Complier Recommendation > Hello, all: > > Does anyone have a "favorite" compiler recommendation for the 8080? > I have TASM, which I like for the 6502, but it only does the Z80, which has > different opcodes. Thanks. > > Rich Cini > http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ > >

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HP Laserjet Series II

by Jeffrey.Earl＠noaa.gov

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Sun type5 keyboard on Sparc2

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 22, Mike Ford wrote: > My "guess" is the type 5 is just too new for a 2. Oh good grief. I've used type5 keyboards on Sun3/50s. -Dave McGuire

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HP-UX cd's...a partial list

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

Here's a partial list of what I've got.... These are all for Series 800: Apps for HP-UX 9.0 Core OS 9.04 Support & Install 9.04 These I'm not sure right now: Docs v. 10.x Extensions Date 3726 Extensions Date 3710, 3620 Apps for 10.2 date 3710 Apps ('96) for 9.0 Clintrial 3.3.2 Core OS 10.20 for 700/800 Apps from '98 These are just from the scribbled notes I have. I will try to make a full, detailed list Monday night and then we can figure out how best to distribute them. I've had quite a few responses, and I want to see everyone have a chance. Basically, I just want people to like me...;o) I'm thinking the disk sharing idea is good. I don't know if you can do a direct copy of one of these....would Easy-CD see it as just an audio cd and copy it accordingly? That would be a project for someone other than me. Talk to you Monday. Paul Braun WD9GCO Cygnus Productions nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com "A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without a bunch of bricks tied to its head."

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Sun type5 keyboard on Sparc2

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi I got the Sparc2 a few weeks ago and cant get it to see the type5 keyboard I have to try it out with. I only have that one keyboard to test this so I don't know if there is a problem with the keyboard, sparc2, or its just that a type5 does not work on a sparc2. When I power on the keyboard, the leds flash on the keyboard (power ok to keyboard) , but I get a message on the sparc it cant ID the keyboard. I am suspecting the serial line trans/receiver chips for the keyboard serial line maybe have gone bad on the sparc, is that a frequent failure? Ill probe with a scope if I have to... Also I have a mouse model4 (or type 4?) can the special mouse pad for these be substituted by something else? Claude

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$3551 Sol???

by bills＠adrenaline.com

Ok, I'm stumped. I bought a Sol on ebay back in September for $385.16 including shipping and insurance. I think the one I got is in better shape and it has a lower serial number. Why did this one go for so much? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1201894666&ed=9771987 70 Bill

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HP-UX cd's

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

To answer several questions, there are roughly two dozen cd's, including several dupes. I'll try to get a full list Monday night, and I'll post it then. There should be enough to go around, plus Clint offerred to use what he needed and then pass them on....so everybody should get a chance. I'll get back to you Monday night (that's the next time I'll be at the shop.) Paul Braun nerdware(a)laidbak.com Visit NerdWare on the Web at www.laidbak.com/nerdware

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Usenet archives

by jfoust＠threedee.com

In the past I've expressed my desire for a complete and better archive of Usenet news. I mentioned Michael Stutz <stutz(a)dsl.org> who wanted the same thing. He's composed a web page about it, including the latest Deja/Google news. See his rough notes at http://dsl.org/comp/archives.shtml . He has a nice collection of links to the sprinkling of news archives throughout the net. There's hope yet! In other news: http://slashdot.org/articles/01/02/22/0124253.shtml http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,41926,00.html - John

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A couple of Bondwell 2 questions

by j.cammell＠xtra.co.nz

In reply to the question about the Bondwell 2. I also have the Bondwell 2 and most of the software and manuals. If it was not you who asked the original question can you refer me to the author. Regards Jack

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Last OT re; Mail

by jpl15＠panix.com

Bruce - *panix* is on your List? I was under the impression that the Panix gang were pretty conscientious and not generally known as Tolerators of Junque Poste. And yes, all my replies to your recent e-mail direct to me have bounced, but (italics) it takes a day of retries before finally being rejected for good. (/italics). Sigh. Cure worse than Malady? I dunno... Cheerz (and thanx for the update) John

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Wisconin (sic) area collectors wanted for media story

by jfoust＠threedee.com

She wants someone in a particular part of 'Sconsin, no less: At 03:30 PM 2/21/01 -0600, "Scott, Stefanie" <SScott(a)smgpo.gannett.com> wrote: >Thanks for the e-mail. I'm actually looking for someone in the Northeastern >Wisconsin areas: we cover Steven's Point, Marshfield, Fond du Lac, Appleton, >Oshkosh, Green Bay, Wausau, Wisconsin Rapids, Sheboygan and Manitowoc and >their surrounding areas. If you know of anyone from these areas, that would >help. - John

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Brief OT: Mail server blocks

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

John Lawson may have run into this, so I figured I'd better let the rest of the group know as well. When I took over server operations for our domain (bluefeathertech) earlier this year, the mail servers were installed with some pretty potent anti-spam features. Among these are the fact that they'll reject any mail >from (1), systems listed as open SMTP inputs on ORBS; And (2), any system listed in the MAPS RBL. I suspect the reason John paged me on the group is because his ISP's mail boxes were not able to connect to mine because one or more of them may be listed as noted above. With that in mind, I would like to let the group know that I do have a backup address: wd6eos <at> hamsnet dot net. This can be used for any situation where you're not able to reach me through the bluefeathertech domain. Thanks much. We now return to our regularly scheduled core memory plane. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

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