- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by avickers＠solutionengineers.com

Does anyone have any spare 2114 (or alternative pin compatible 1KBx4) SRAM chips hanging about doing nothing useful? I have a PET 2001 with one blown chip, and neither Farnell nor RS do them any more :( Cheers! Ade. -- B-Racing: B where it's at :-) http://www.b-racing.co.uk

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installing VMS

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

You need release media that supports your VAX. In this case either 5.5H4 or 6.x VMS. Once you have the appropriate media, then you can stick it into the CD and boot Standalone backup from the disk, then type: BACKUP/IMAGE/VERYFIY DKAxxx:VMS06x.B/SAVE DKAyyy: which will copy the first part of the install from the CD (DKAxxx:) on to the disk (DKAyyy:) When that finishes boot that disk and continue by following the prompts. --Chuck At 08:49 PM 8/31/01 -0400, you wrote: >I had originally planned to install VMS 5.5-2 from a CD I'vfe had kicking

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Hey Tony -- I wrote: > > I considered that but don't know of any way to consistently get heads to > > crash in such a controlled manner as to be useable musically (i.e., makes > > pretty much the same sound every time). > > > > Do you? Tony replied: > If I was mad enough to attempt this, Is this your opinion of my state of mind? ;>) > I'd record the sound of a head > crash, and then replay it as necessary. Either digitally (whereupon you > could vary the pitch, etc I believe) or on good old analogue tape, and > then fiddle with the speed on playback if necessary). Sure, I can record to my hard drive and then manipulate the resultant file in all sorts of ways. But I want to "play" the device -- like a musical instrument -- for at least a few dozen times in order to gain some control over the sound which is produced. Ideally I want to write a program to crash the heads so that I can play the drive the same way I push the buttons on a printer to obtain certain sounds. Let's say I take an ST-225 and a WD controller and stick them in a PC and I want the heads to bang out a rhythm, then screech to a halt. Any suggestions? Glen 0/0

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

This is fantastic -- thanks for sharing. Being a musician, this conjures up all sorts of ideas for using computer sounds to make music. I have a recording studio hung off my main non-classic box, so I can add this to my List of Unfinished Projects. Some useable sounds might be: (printers, of course) hard drive spinup & chatter crt charge & discharge floppy drive stepper motors ps fans cpu cooling fans cd drives (opening, closing, and spinning) scanner sounds tape drives ASR 33s PAC readers card readers So what did I miss (classic or non)? Glen 0/0 ---------- > From: James Carter <james(a)cs.york.ac.uk> > > i don't know whether this has been sent to the list before, but it > tickled me. most of the "performers" appear to be classic, so it is on > topic. > > http://www.sat.qc.ca/the_user/dotmatrix/en/intro.html

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On September 3, Bill Bradford wrote: > > > Do you mean gas discharge (like the Sumlock Compucorp on my desk with a > > > Panaplex display), or vacuum fluorescent (the green displays used on a > > > number of 1970's hand-held calculators)? > > Probably vacuum fluorescent. Gas-discharge would be more like Nixies, right? > > Speaking of, kinda related, anybody know where I can get one of the > 21" DEC orange gas plasma displays? I forget the model number right > now, but I've been looking for one of them for quite a while... It's called a VRE01. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

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HELP on Laserjet Plus error code 60

by harryb＠charter.net

I am getting a blinking 60 on the panel of my trusty Lasjet Plus printer. Was attempting to set up a parallel port scanner, and plugged the printer on passthru. This is on a W2K system (sorry guys). Scanner no work, and error code started. Have re-installed driver, plugged printer back in direct, but still get error code. No help on printer or HP web sites, cause unit is too old (like its owner). Has someone got docs, or a link to the user manual ? Any hints welcome. Harry

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Nabu Computers Available...

by hardwire＠ptd.net

This might be of interest to somebody here (hopefully)... Surplus Traders (www.73.com) currently has 35 Nabu computers for $29.00 a pop, plus shipping. Normally they do bulk sales, but they will sell the Nabu individually. (Search for item CR356.) I picked one up a while ago, and mine was still 'new', in the box, with a factory seal. Then again, since this surplus, it might be best to verify that the units are 'new' if that's important to you. Unfortunately, I haven't really toyed with the Nabu hardware too much (yet), and if anyone else has, I'd love to hear about it. Either way, these machines are certainly an interesting part of computing history. Here's a small blurb about the Nabu: http://ieee.ca/millennium/telidon/telidon_nabu.html

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Altair benchmark

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hi: I came across a very simple benchmark program that I'd like to use in comparing the speed of a real Altair to that of the Altair32 emulator: org 0 start: ei lxi b,0 ; inner loop = 65536 times mvi d,50 ; outer loop = 50 times loop: push b ; this is just to increase the instruction count push d push h push psw pop psw pop h pop d pop b dcx b mov a,b ora c ; done with inner loop? jnz loop ; if not, keep going dcr d ; do this 50 times jnz loop hlt ; done with speed test end start I would appreciate it if someone with an Altair could put this in and time, in seconds, how long it takes to perform this test. I already know that the Altair32 is painfully slow, primarily because of the graphics routines used to draw the front panel LEDs. Disabling LED updating improves the speed greatly. Doing this, unfortunately, results in you have a Turnkey system... Thanks to all. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

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Must be a typo!

by benwarden＠earthlink.net

Don't smoke - corrected the typo, and sold it for $14.98 on 4 May 1999 Bennie R Warden - Bookseller 39 South Alhambra Lane 561.878.9645 Port Saint Lucie FL 34952-2832 VISA - Master Card - Discover/Novus - Check/MO

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DEC Design

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jerome Fine <jhfine(a)idirect.com> >Do you mean the TU-58? I am looking for one!! I have one that does not >work and I want to replace the bad part. The rollers are OK. This is >the external TU-58 with two drives in a black box. Does anyone have one? >Even if it is not working, perhaps I can cut and paste. Err what part are you looking for so it could possibly be found? I have one of the external TU-58s, no I'm not scrapping it. Allison

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TRS-80 Model III and Model 12 have to go....

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

I had mentioned these before, but unfortunately dumped the email by accident..... I have a Model III complete with software and Model 12 with 2 external hard drives and keyboard. I assume they work (at least the Model III had worked the last time the donor who gave it to me used it....) I'm in Northwest Indiana, about 40 minutes East of Chicago. These are too big and bulky for me to deal with packing and shipping....I would prefer that they be picked up. I'm never gonna get around to playing with them, and they are taking up a huge amount of shelf space that I need for other things. I don't want to scrap 'em....but I would like them gone by the end of the month. I've already done my big Tandy display at the local library, and I realized just how bulky they are when I tried to shoehorn 'em into my Impreza.....I'm sticking with smaller stuff from now on. Ok, the Lisa II is and exception. ;o) Please. Give these a good home. Thanks. Please contact me off-list and we can arrange something Paul Braun WD9GCO Cygnus Productions nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com "A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without a bunch of bricks tied to its head."

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TRS80 Model III broken wire puzzle

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, My gf brought me back said TRS80 MIII (16K model, no floppies) from her trip to New Jersey a couple of weeks ago, surprisingly it's a 240V model. Anyway, it suffered the usual airport baggage handling 'techniques' and the VDU broke away from its mountings. Fortunately the neck hasn't broken so it should be salvageable unless there's a hairline crack somewhere I've missed. Anyway, I've glued everything back in place and it's whole again; however there's 1 wire that's broken free from *somewhere* on the screen itself but I can't see where. It's black and goes to a post marked E306 on the VDU board that's normally screwed to the left hand side of the case. E306 itself is part of the grounding circuit, so have any of you TRS80 III owners got the schematics for the VDU circuit? Thanks in advance, -- adrian/witchy www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - The online Computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly Gothic shenanigans

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Would anybody like these?

by fernande＠internet1.net

Free + shipping costs -Teac 1.2meg 5.25" floppy drive -DOS Customized, by David Busch.... it's a Brady book, nice shape -Simpson Microamperes round gauge, maybe 2.5", glass loose, 0 to 200 Microamps, direct current, fairly old... neat, but I don't know what to do with it :-) -Seagate ST-4053 with microchannel controller, drive needs to be low-leveled, but I don't know how. it's from an IBM Model 60 -full height bezel for Seagate ST-225, from a XT or PC -5.25" half height mounting bracket for IBM optical drive, 74F8785, from an external IBM drive case Model 3510, but I think it'll fit into a Model 77. -Power supply, it's from a piece of VME scrap I bought on Ebay, it wasn't what I thought it was, so I am recycling it. I figured someone might want the power supply. It's an ACDC Electronics unit. will do 5volts at 20 amps and +-5 volts at 2 amps. Has 3 output blocks (sets of terminals at +-5 volts) and a larger pair that must be the 12 volts. Huge heat sink. Model RT101-3 115VAC input. It's about the size of an AT power supply, but with the heatsink sticking out... no fan. Please reply privately. Thanks, Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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Yet Another Board Cleaning Thread

by jss＠subatomix.com

Well, all, it's time for me to clean boards for the first time. After doing a practice run on a nonessential board, it will be time to begin on the KA11 and friends found inside my PDP-11/20. I've done some research already, but several questions remain. I'd like to get answers to them and have some comments over my tentative cleaning methods. First, let's talk about fluids. It's been a while since I took a chemistry class. Questions: * Is there no difference between 'isopropanol', 'isopropyl alcohol', and 'propan-2-ol'? * Are there any better fluids (methanol?) for certain situations? * Can I find these at a hardware store? * Is there anything I should look out for when using those fluids? That is, is there anything (glue?) they can damage? My most important question deals with core stacks. Most of the board cleaning info I've found steers clear of core. This is unfortuante, as my core is not immune from dust and grime. What I have are H207s, each consisting of a quad-width G616 and a smaller G617 daughterboard. The small space between these boards is exceptionally dirty. My current plan for cleaning them is: (0) Leave the two board assembleds; disassembly would likely cause breakage. (1) Blow canned air over the assembly and through the inter-board space. (2) Dip and swish the assembly in isopropyl alcohol. (3) Blow air over the boards with an unheated hair dryer or more canned air. (4) If the assembly is still dirty, go to step (2). I've got more cleaning subjects to learn about, but in the interest of keeping the discussion more focused, I'll ask about them later. As always, I'm extremely grateful for all help that comes my way. -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss(a)subatomix.com

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PDP 11/34 work party

by KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

Well this is the weekend that I'll try and get the PDP 11/34 running as well as the AS400's in the garage. Anyone who will be in the Ottawa area is welcome to come and help. I'd like to see some signs of life before packing the magnetic media into the basement for the winter. Mike Collector of Vintage Computers (www.ncf.ca/~ba600)

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Who neded that DEC BA440 power supply?

by fernande＠internet1.net

I deleted your email. Did you find one? I have an extra, from a R400X, but am not sure how to test it. Would $20 plus shipping be appropriate? Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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Stupid Powersupply question

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Subject says it all. If I've got a StorageWorks shelf with a 150W Powersupply, I don't draw 150W do I? I simply draw the sum of the number of disks in the shelf. Trying to see if I've got this down right as I need to add some disks and the cost of power is going up again. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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DEC rack header plates

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Anybody know a source of DEC rack header panels (the maroon/red ones) with or without logo, or for the black "cover panels"? I've got a maroon/red pdp11 header panel, and a "blank" maroon/red one, but not the black panels to cover the rest of the cabinet.. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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New Finds on the first day of a long weekend

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Spent most of the day hunting at flea markets and a few thrift stores and this what I have so far: 1. Felt & Tarrant Comptometer missing two key covers but otherwise OK. 2. TI Dataman and manual 3. Several mousepads for that part of the collection. 4. The VMS User's Guide by James F. Peters and Patrick J. Holmay 5. Heathkit Student Workbook on Microprocessors And many more to new to list here yet. Have a fun holiday to all and keep computing.

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NOTICE FROM THE LIST HOST -- a vote in favor of limited moderation

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

>There are three things that need to be corrected on this list: > >- off topic volume is way too high >- we need to eliminate insults, personal attacks, and language that is >obviously intended to offend >- subject lines need to correctly identify the content of the message when >the topic has drifted Personal attacks, insults, and incorrect subject lines are symtoms of the underlying problem which is OT posts. We're all adults here. Let's take it upon ourselves to correct the problem and move forward. It's pretty simle really: 1.) The list "owner" should make rule(s) about how the list is run. 2.) Anyone that wants to participate in the list must follow the rules. That's all... This does not need to be a democratic process. Anyone that doesn't like the rules or won't comply, can start their own damned list. My $.02 SteveRob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Don't forget pen plotters hamering the pen down on to the paper, sirring > steppers, ... > load and unload of removable media (MOD, ...) > and the pumps of the water cooling... > modems and acoustic couplers > beepers (in terminals) > typing on a keyboard (with micro switchs) > power and other switches > start up sounds (Apple, SGI) > opening and closing enclosures > roling enclosures (with wheels) around Thanks for these very fine suggestions! I can also use the tape-loading sounds from my ZX81 and TS2068! Glen 0/0

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Unibus/QBus boards available FT

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I dont currently have a system that I can use these in, so I'd like to trade them for LSI-11 stuff, DEC rack pieces/parts/header panels, or ham radio-related equipment. If you can help me ID the couple of boards I couldnt find in the field guide, please do. H215 (core! qty. 2) 8-Kword 18-bit (parity) (used in MM11-LP, ME15) M7850 Parity board for G651, MS11-EP/FP/HP/JP M920 (qty. 2) UNIBUS connector G727A Grant continuity card G231E (Qty. 3) 16K XY Selection, Current source, Address Latch, 8K Decode. G109 ("CONTROL AND DATA LOOPS" ?) ???? ("16K MOS UNIBUS MEMORY") M9760 ? M957 ? bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Altair benchmark

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Richard A. Cini, Jr. <rcini(a)optonline.net> org 0 start: 4 ei 10 lxi b,0 ; inner loop = 65536 times 7 mvi d,50 ; outer loop = 50 times ;;; one time setup 21 cycles (10.5 uS) loop: 11 push b ; this is just to increase the instruction count 11 push d 11 push h 11 push psw 10 pop psw 10 pop h 10 pop d 10 pop b 5 dcx b 5 mov a,b 4 ora c ; done with inner loop? 10 jnz loop ; if not, keep going Main loop 108 cycles, 8080A JNZ is 10 tcy pass or fail condition. 65536*108=7077888cy (3.538944 sec)... assuming one wait state per memory access the 108 becomes 138cy, 65536*138=9043968cy (4.521 sec) this adds 15cy or 7.5us to the loop 50 times. 5 dcr d ; do this 50 times 10 jnz loop The two loops total 176947575uS (176.947 sec) or 353895150 clock cycles assuming NO wait states. one wait state per memory access will add considerably to the loop times (>226sec!). housekeeping 3.5us 7 hlt ; done with speed test end start I would appreciate it if someone with an Altair could put this in and time, in seconds, how long it takes to perform this test. About an hour.... first 55 minutes to toggle it in and watch it crash repeatedly. Then there were the crashes due to bus noise... Seriously if you have the 8080 book you can calculate it as the basic altair was 2.00 mhz (500ns Tcy) with no wait state ram. if you had 88S4k the wait states for refresh were asynchronous and hard to predict. If the ram was 88s4k the refresh was invisible as it was synchronous. If you got it right.... roughly 177 seconds for no mait memory and somewhere around 227seconds for memory requiring one wait state per access. 8085 and z80s execute this faster for the same clock due to different numbers for instructing timing such as jumps which have shorter timing if the condition fails. Allison

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Yet Another Board Cleaning Thread

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jeffrey S. Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com> >Do you suggest I dip the core stack in distilled water instead of >isopropyl alcohol? Isopropanol is ok for the core stack but only if seriously required. Use only the pure {99.5%} as rubbing alcohol can be up to 70% water! >How about if I blew the air from a distance? There's got to be a happy >medium between a point-blank discharge and spraying from across the room. Do so with the greatest care. Allison

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The "MEX" program & is ron Fowler still around

by pdan＠primenet.com

Yes, still using the MEX program for my UNIX dialup on my 1GH computer and since the upgrade, haven't been able to upload or download, the error message being "serial input errors". Is Ron Fowler who wrote the program still around or Al Jewer who worked on it? Alternatively, anybody here know what I'm talking about and who might have a suggestion for a fix? Any assisstance greatly appreciated.

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I've got the PA-RISC Blues . . .

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

I recently aquired an HP-9000/735-120, minus the RAM and (I've just realized) the CPU! Grrrrrr. Anyone know of a reasonably-priced source for these items? Thanx-- Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Geek Button Sayings

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Existed as large button and also a teeshirt. |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| (digital keys logo in BLUE) the word unix in the no symbol (red circle with slash) and the words.... unix the unsystem, never had it never will. ca.1984 Allison

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Geek Button Sayings

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

: p1 OOLCAY IT-TAY (or however it appears at the end of the book... I can't find my copy right now) ---------------------------------------------------- Swapped Out ---------------------------------------------------- Core Dumped ---------------------------------------------------- Carrier Lost ---------------------------------------------------- Lost Cluster ---------------------------------------------------- Hard Wired ---------------------------------------------------- Liquid Cooled ---------------------------------------------------- Simulation Only! ---------------------------------------------------- Overflow again? Somebody get the bit bucket. ---------------------------------------------------- Abort, Retry, Fail? ---------------------------------------------------- I'm with the head crash ==============>

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Geek Button Sayings

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

You forgot... WYSIWYG ... What You See Is What You Get (first generation pagelayup editors) WYGINS.... What You Get Is No Surprize (Runoff, TEX, LAtex users know this) -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:38 PM Subject: RE: Geek Button Sayings >DON'T ANTHROPOMORPHIZE COMPUTERS - THEY HATE IT WHEN YOU DO THAT > >MAKE BILL GATES A MILLIONAIRE (too subtle for most people) > >W.I.B.A.S - WINDOWS IS BUGGY AND SLOW (from about 1990) > > > >

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Geek Button Sayings

by technos＠nerdland.org

"I [heart] my Wang" Might also appeal to readers of Penny Arcade.. Jim On Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:30 AM, Larry Anderson [SMTP:foxnhare@jps.net] wrote: > > If you had the opportunity to write a classic computer related phrase > (or whatever will work) on a 2.25" diameter button, what would you > like > to wear? > > Of course some of the classics are: > > //////////// > > BYTE ME! > > //////////// > > DANCE > ALGORITHM 1.0 > > 0A ASL ;SHIFT TO > THE LEFT! > 4A LSR ;SHIFT TO > THE RIGHT! > 48 PHA ;PUSH A! > 68 PLA ;PULL A! > EA NOP ;BYTE! > EA NOP ;BYTE! > EA NOP ;BYTE! > > //////////// > > 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 > 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 > 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 > 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 > 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 > 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 > 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 > 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 > 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 > > (this one is a bit harsh, I'd prefer to use a different phrase) > > ////////////// > > My other computer is an Apple I > > ////////////// > > My computer > takes up half a room > draws 500 watts, > has 4k of RAM, > and runs at only 500khz... > > Beat That! > > //////////////// > > > > reason: I have a bag of old buttons I am relabling (sticking new > labels > over the previous 1996 dated event designs) to give away at VCF 5.0, > besides the Commodore related ones (of course) and those above, I am > open to do other designs (I have already did a nice "I'd rather be > playing Spacewar" in button form). Just let me know, I have about > 60-100 buttons I'm doing. (color and photos are doable, fonts too if > I > have em.)

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> > There is the well-known software package for DEC's pdp8/e (and >perhaps other -8 models) that makes quite reasonable music from a >nearby AM radio, if memory serves the "interference" was generated by >the core memory drivers...you took the chassis cover off, put an AM >radio near the machine, ran the program, gave it a "song" file, and >away it played. > > -Dave There was also a pack of routines that used the link bit driving an amplifier to a speaker... much cleaner. Then there is also software for the A/D board... fairly decent. Other classic music hardware was the ALS-8. As to sounds, the best is my S-S100 boot test, series or disk seeks beeps to a speaker (coded) and the vt100 terminal beep after it finally says hello to the serial line. It's the best for the one reason, they indicate boot progress and success. ;) Allison

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HP2000 BASIC

by west＠tseinc.com

As a followup... Today I got the mux board put together and hooked up a few terminals. I hit return and was greeted with the infamous "PLEASE LOG IN". Then I created an A000 account, logged in, and entered/ran some basic programs... WOOHOO! It's all up 100% now. Funny how I just got the system completely usable today, and already I'm thinking about hardware upgrades *smile* It will take me some time - weeks at least & maybe months to get around to putting a FreeBSD machine on front of the system so people can telnet to the HP2000 box across the internet. However, if someone just can't wait to play with it (yes, a few people have already asked me about this) - send me a private email and I'll slap a modem directly on the system so you can dial in. All you'd have is long distance fees. Regards! (time for me to go have lots of beer to celebrate) Jay West

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Lubert Trek

by CELang＠worldnet.att.net

I was just reminded this evening about a program I've been looking for on and off for years now. It was a Star Trek game written by Col. Lubert. I think he was Air Force, but I don't remember for certain. It was a battle; Enterprise vs a Klingon battle cruiser. I found the program on the University of Minnesota's CDC Cyber 74 in 1979 and did a conversion to Apple ][. Someone asked to borrow my only hardcopy of the program, and like a good little idiot I gave it up. Then the cassette with the Apple copy died. Of course, the guy I loaned the hardcopy to had no recollection of it and by this time I no longer had access to the Cyber. Does anyone out there have a copy of this game? Thanks for reading. Craig

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On September 1, Glen Goodwin wrote: > Being a musician, this conjures up all sorts of ideas for using computer > sounds to make music. I have a recording studio hung off my main > non-classic box, so I can add this to my List of Unfinished Projects. Some > useable sounds might be: > > (printers, of course) > hard drive spinup & chatter > crt charge & discharge > floppy drive stepper motors > ps fans > cpu cooling fans > cd drives (opening, closing, and spinning) > scanner sounds > tape drives > ASR 33s > PAC readers > card readers > > So what did I miss (classic or non)? There is the well-known software package for DEC's pdp8/e (and perhaps other -8 models) that makes quite reasonable music from a nearby AM radio, if memory serves the "interference" was generated by the core memory drivers...you took the chassis cover off, put an AM radio near the machine, ran the program, gave it a "song" file, and away it played. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

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installing VMS

by red＠bears.org

Howdy; Thanks to Jeff Kaneko, who supplied the missing chassis parts, my VAXstation 4000/90 is all happy and ready to run. I had originally planned to install VMS 5.5-2 from a CD I'vfe had kicking around for ages (actually, from five years ago when I wanted to buy a VAXstation 3100 from Tim Shoppa), but booting the CD didn't seem successful. What do I need to do to install VMS on this machine? One of the drives in the 4000 has VMS 6.2 Standalone Backup installed, if it helps. The CD is labelled, "VMS V5.5-2 BIN CDROM Disc 1 of 1 October 1992". ok r.

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More free Q-bus/Unibus boards, you pay shipping

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

OK, more boards, same deal no guarantees, you pay shipping (typically under $4 per board): DEC M7168+M7169 pair (VCB02) DEC M8053 (DMV11). On board 6502, etc. Data Translation Inc P/N 06012, seemingly a DMA I/O board of some kind Digi-Data "82 QCI", I think a Q-bus pertec formatted controller DEC M7090, console module from a 11/44 Again, email me at "shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com" to reserve and set up shipping details. Tim.

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Free Q-bus/Unibus boards, you pay shipping

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

Free Q-bus/Unibus boards. No warranty, no docs, but I hope someone finds them interesting or useful, because otherwise they're going to be scrapped. You pay for shipping from East Coast USA (typically under $4 per board). DEC W943 dual-wide wire wrap board (16 pin DIP sockets) The two big PC boards from a DEC RX02 drive Excelan EXOS 204 (I think it's a Unibus Ethernet adapter.) National Instruments ASSY178009-01 (I think GPIB Q-bus adapter) M7687 DUP11-DA (two available) Plessey Microsystems P/N 701295-100H, I think a 128Kbyte Unibus memory board Emulex TC01 two board set (controller for Pertec formatted tapes) M4002 KWV11-C programmable real time clock (two available) Unknown maker, labeled "Menu/Tablet Interface", has two RCA CDP1854's and baud rate selectors. Quad-height, I think Unibus (but maybe Q-bus!) Datasystems DLP-1132 (I think this is the same as the Wespercorp Pertec unformatted controller, but no guarantees!) M7800 DL11 A M8081 (RLV12), which a decade ago I labeled "doesn't work". Probably still doesn't work, but I won't guarantee that! If interested, please E-mail me at "shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com" to reserve what you want and arrange shipping details. Tim.

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BA123 Power

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> >> >I am wondering what the power requirements of a fairly standard >> uVAX-II in a >> >BA123 case would be, what kind of hookup it needs, voltage and >> power requirements... >> >> About 700W (8.8A in the US, 4.4A in the UK). > >I could have sworn that it is a 600W powersupply. Of course that doesn't >mean that the system will pull that much. In any case, I've never had any >problems, and it's amazing I've never popped a breaker with mine, >considering how much other stuff I tend to have running. It's power needs are modest and that 4.4A @120VAC (USA) is under worst case conditions at maximum load. It's pretty difficult to configure a UVII to the max unless you have 4 rd54s, TK50 and Flooppy and even then your only "close". In any cas e power wise the box is an easy one to run at home and not too bad on heat output for modest configurations. Allison

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This week's finds

by root＠diablonet.net

> I also found a DEC drawing tablet. Plugs into the DEC mini-DIN-6 mouse port. > Unfortunately it's got no pen or puck. There is no plug for the drawing > instrument, so I suppose it's some kind of magnetic device. Anyone know some > kind of replacement? The unit is called the VSXXX-AB. I've got one of these laying around too. As far as I can tell, they're pretty much a DEC-rebadged Summagraphics SummaSketch II tablet with the serial cable customized to allow it to be connected to a DEC mouse port. I guess these tablets were popular in the IBM world for CAD work, and maybe they worked with Macintosh systems as well? The one I've got has a four-button puck; I'm not sure if they were available with a stylus (probably not). Maybe this helps. --Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net) | http://www.diablonet.net

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SS1 ethernet MAC address...

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Aug 30, 15:52, Gene Buckle wrote: > I can't really put the SS1 to use yet since I haven't > nailed down an sbus ethernet card for it. You don't need one -- there's an AUI connector on the back of the motherboard. All you need is a transceiver. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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BA123 Power

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > Alex White wrote: > > > >I am wondering what the power requirements of a fairly standard > uVAX-II in a > >BA123 case would be, what kind of hookup it needs, voltage and > power > >requirements... > > About 700W (8.8A in the US, 4.4A in the UK). I could have sworn that it is a 600W powersupply. Of course that doesn't mean that the system will pull that much. In any case, I've never had any problems, and it's amazing I've never popped a breaker with mine, considering how much other stuff I tend to have running. > Over here (in the UK) it just plugs > into an ordinary socket. No special > power or air conditioning requirements. > > Antonio Plugs in to an ordinary socket in the US as well. Zane

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BA123 Power

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

What's in the DECpc? What are it's specs like? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 > ---------- > From: Alex White > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:23 AM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: BA123 Power > > Hello All! > > I am wondering what the power requirements of a fairly standard uVAX-II in > a > BA123 case would be, what kind of hookup it needs, voltage and power > requirements... > > also, for the DIGITAL fanatics i've got an old DECpc sitting here if > anyone > wants it to complete collections..... no? thought not, just couldn't > resist > asking! > > Alex > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 07/08/2001 > >

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BA123 Power

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Alex White wrote: > >I am wondering what the power requirements of a fairly standard uVAX-II in a >BA123 case would be, what kind of hookup it needs, voltage and power >requirements... About 700W (8.8A in the US, 4.4A in the UK). Over here (in the UK) it just plugs into an ordinary socket. No special power or air conditioning requirements. Antonio

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[mac-nt] [Off] Token Ring Cards

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Chris --- I'll forward this to the Classic Computing (classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org) list for you. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Chris [mailto:mythtech@mac.com] ! ! Ok, I have tried unsuccessfully to sell off these things, so now I am ! just offering them for free. ! ! I have a box load of 16/4 token ring cards. Most are ISA, but ! there are a ! few MCA and EISA cards. All are 16/4 cards, and all have at least an ! RJ-45 connector (but some also have a DB-9). ! ! They are FREE to anyone that wants them (well, free plus ! shipping). They ! will be shipping out of Northern New Jersey (07450 zip). ! Anyone can have ! as many of any style as they want (up to as many as I have obviously). ! ! I don't know if they work as I am not the one that removed them from ! operation. They were all removed from computers during a mass ! Ethernet ! migration, so I have no reason to believe that they won't ! work (but since ! I didn't pull them, I can't say for sure). They are JUST the ! cards, no ! cables, no manuals, no drivers, no warrenties, no nothing... ! just a box ! of cards. ! ! If anyone is interested, email me off list (lets not clutter ! up the list ! with this topic). I can ship pretty much any manner that you ! request, but ! remember YOU cover shipping costs, so take that into account before ! requesting FedEx P1 overnight. ! ! If no one here wants any... are their any recommendations as ! to where I ! might unload them (other than my dumpster which is where they will be ! headed soon). I just feel bad tossing out about 60 perfectly ! fine token ! ring cards, but no one seems to want them. ! ! -chris ! ! <http://www.mythtech.net> ! ! ! [DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] This is a posting from the ! Mac-NT Mailing List. To unsubscribe, forward this message ! (Including these lines) to ! <unsub-mac-nt(a)lyris.sunbelt-software.com>. List Charter and ! FAQ at: ! http://www.sunbelt-software.com/mac-nt-list_charter.htm <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/mac-nt-list_charter.htm>

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by james＠cs.york.ac.uk

i don't know whether this has been sent to the list before, but it tickled me. most of the "performers" appear to be classic, so it is on topic. http://www.sat.qc.ca/the_user/dotmatrix/en/intro.html -- J.F.Carter http://www.jfc.org.uk/

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IBM PC 5150 memory device driver?

by mbbrutman＠magnaspeed.net

Hello all, I have an early IBM PC (5150) w/ 64K on the motherboard. This machine has the early BIOS bug that prevents it from recognizing over 544KB of RAM. Is there a device driver that can be used to fix up the memory area where the BIOS stores the amount of RAM? The area needs to be fixed up before DOS loads, or DOS won't see the changes. Also, is there a restriction on using an EGA card in this machine? I have a monochrome display adapter card in it; attempts to use EGA (either standalone or with the MDA) have failed. I think I'm setting the motherboard switches correctly. The EGA card in question is a genuine IBM card; two different samples have not worked. Thanks, Mike mbbrutman(a)magnaspeed.net

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Name that connector...

by mjsnodgr＠rockwellcollins.com

Sounds like you've discovered the classiccmp version of the "guess the number of pennies in the jar and win $100" game. A grand prize of 300 5.25" floppies goes to the person who can correctly name all the connectors on the back of the most obscure machine that Fred can come up with. <grin> - M.S. "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>@classiccmp.org on 08/27/2001 11:22:45 AM Please respond to classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent by: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org To: "'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> cc: Subject: RE: Are office people really that, umm shall we say...slow? > ! > Slot 1 : Female DA15, Female DB25 > 15 - joystick port, 25 is printer port, and I bet these go to the same card > as slot 5, the DB 9 and DB25 serial ports... The most common uses in a PC for a female DA15 is joystick. The most common uses in a PC for a FEMALE DB25 is printer. But the FEMALE DB25 could be SCSI, and the female DB15 could be sound. But keep in mind that Tony's machine might not be very ordinary. > ! > Slot 2 : 6 Ribbon cables come out (a) ending in a male > ! > DC37, (b,c) ending > ! > in female DB25s, (d,e) ending in male DB25s (narrower > ! > ribbon cables than > ! > b,c), (f) ending in a female DC37 > ! No idea, but from you, probably something homemade :-) > Hard drive controller? EPROM programmer, expansion chassis? Although male DB25s are most often serial, and FEMALE DB25s are most often parallel, they also get used for a LOT of random other general purposes. > ! > Slot 3 : Pushbutton switch, Mini-DIN 6 > ! The switch might be a reset, but no idea on the mini-din 6, > ! M$ bus mouse > ! perhaps? Based on Tony's feelings about mini-din, I'd have to assume that it is a commersial product that he has yet to get around to customizing. Non-maskable interrupt/hardware debug assist (Atron, ...)? > ! > Slot 4 : RCA phono socket, female DE9 > ! That's your video card I think. The most common card for a PC with RCA socket and female DE9 is CGA. No homemade notch for access to the 4 and 6 pin bergs? > ! > Slot 5 : Female DE9, female DB25 > ! serial ports FEMALE!!!! The most common card for a PC with FEMALE DE9 and FEMALE DB25 is the IBM "Monochrome Display and Printer" No notch for access to the 6 pin berg? > ! > Slot 6 : Female DC37 > ! again, I 'm not sure what a DC connector is.... is it a floppy > ! controller? I can't recall the pin count. The most common card for a PC with female DC37 is the IBM Floppy disk controller. But it could be SCSI, expansion chassis, or miscellaneous homebrew. > ! > Slot 7 : Male DB25 > ! parallel port? MALE!!! The most common use of a MALE DB25 for a PC is serial. > ! > Slot 8 : Female DC37 ! ! a second floppy controller? > Also on the back : another male DB25, female 5 pin DIN, ! male and > female IEC mains connectors. ! ! The DB25 could be another > parallel port, MALE!!! serial > the din 5 your ! keyboard, and I ! don't know what IEC > is, but since you say mains I assume that's your ! power cord and > monitor power points. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com

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Bell Technologies Workstation Graphics Engine

by engdahl＠cle.ab.com

"Bell Technologies Workstation Graphics Engine" I got this in a box of other computer junk a long time ago. It's a full size PC-AT card with an Intel 82786 (some sort of graphics controller), some 16 pin DIP DRAM (256K bits), and a bunch of logic chips on it. The date codes on the chips are 1987. I think it might have been a very early X-windows accelerator for the PC-AT. The graphics chip might be kind of interesting, but I don't have time to fool with it. You can probably find some info on it in a mid-80's Intel data book. Does anybody want this? -- Jonathan Engdahl???????????????? Rockwell Automation Principal Research Engineer????? 24800 Tungsten Road Advanced Technology????????????? Euclid, OH 44117, USA Euclid Labs????????????????????? engdahl(a)cle.ab.com 216-266-6409

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BA123 Power

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

UK? Oh well, kills the deal for me... I was hoping for maybe something like an Alpha... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Alex White [mailto:awx@btinternet.com] ! Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:48 PM ! To: David Woyciesjes ! Cc: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: RE: BA123 Power ! ! ! It's a rather standard i486/25 with 4Mb RAM and integrated ! VGA. Nothing ! special at all really, I bought it as a cheap server and ! because of the DEC ! link but now as it's been replaced it's free to anyone. One ! caveat - i'm in ! the UK... ! ! Alex ! ! -----Original Message----- ! From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] ! Sent: 31 August 2001 17:17 ! To: 'awx(a)btinternet.com' ! Cc: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' ! Subject: RE: BA123 Power ! ! ! What's in the DECpc? What are it's specs like? ! ! --- David A Woyciesjes ! --- C & IS Support Specialist ! --- Yale University Press ! --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu ! --- (203) 432-0953 ! --- ICQ # - 905818 ! ! > ---------- ! > From: Alex White ! > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:23 AM ! > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! > Subject: BA123 Power ! > ! > Hello All! ! > ! > I am wondering what the power requirements of a fairly ! standard uVAX-II in ! > a ! > BA123 case would be, what kind of hookup it needs, voltage and power ! > requirements... ! > ! > also, for the DIGITAL fanatics i've got an old DECpc sitting here if ! > anyone ! > wants it to complete collections..... no? thought not, just couldn't ! > resist ! > asking! ! > ! > Alex ! > --- ! > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. ! > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). ! > Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 07/08/2001 ! > ! > !

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AT&T 7300 Manual

by fire＠dataflo.net

I am looking for someone with AT&T 7300 paper manuals. I have a set but was missing a few pages and borrowed a manual from my friend. Unfortunately, the first day I did not notice that I was missing the lpsched(1M) page. Later I took just that page out of my friend's copy and carefully photocopied it. Here is the amazing part, I lost BOTH copies. So... if anyone has User's Manual Volume I, I would be very grateful if I could get just that one page photocopied and sent to me via snail mail. And my friend won't have to figure out where to hide my body. (Seriously, my negligence bothers both of us greatly) thanks a lot, Bradley Slavik

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