- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by w2hx＠w2hx.com

Hi all, I am in the market to obtain the PDP-8/e small computer handbook in the form of a real book. There is one on ABE books available which is softcover. I always worry about a 500 page book in softcover in terms of the binding and general sturdiness. Was there a hardcover version of this book and does anyone have one for sale? Thanks Eugene W2HX

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for sale/trade: big list of both old and (relatively) new, deadline: end of November (ideally)

by mgariboldi＠gmail.com

The following is for sale, or trade possibly. (I've tried to send this earlier, but it didn't appear in the list, so this is my second try to post htis...) Most of the listed items I've used together with SGI IRIX and HP/Compaq/DEC OpenVMS and Digital/Tru64 UNIX systems and served me very well. I need to sell this by the end of the month (Nov-2016), else I'll have to potentially scrap a considerable bunch of it. I probably forgot to mention a number of things and perhaps I made a few mistakes here and there. I'll try to update (and if needed, correct) this list with follow-up posts. For now, this is the list of items: - SGI systems, e.g. MIPS R5000 and R5200 processor equipped O2s notably, perhaps also a teal Indigo? with 250-MHz R4400, at least 256 Mbytes (also up to 1 Gbyte available) of RAM, various types of CPUs available, along with various other options in terms of disks, video I/O, etc. (ask me) --> suggestion: if you don't care for IRIX, an O2 would still make an excellent X terminal to any e.g. other system, too, as they don't consume a lot of power and they're wonderfully small; - SGI parts, like an SGI Tezro dual-processor 700-MHz R16000 system board and an SGI DMediaPro DM10 IEEE-1394a FireWire PCI card plus cable and manual; - DEC Multia/UDB VX40B, maximized, with 166-MHz LCA4/21066 processor, the maximum amount of RAM (256 Mbytes), large 73.4-Gbyte 2?" SCSI HDD (with Tru64 UNIX V5.1B[-5?] optionally pre-installed, OpenVMS V7.2 also works on it, the original vertical stand and documents are present, too), Ensoniq AudioPCI (16-bit 48-KHz) audio card, replacement NVRAM/TOY back-up battery, experimental SRM console, PCI audio card and custom-shoehorned, etc.; - various older/non-x86 or compatible computer (besides earlier mentioned SGI, e.g. DEC, Compaq and HP) bits & parts, think of FireWire (e.g. IEEE-1394a), audio, etc. cards, cables and such ... included are things like an AlphaServer DS15-compatible PCI audio card, HP IEEE-1394a FireWire PCI card (rare, should work in some HP Integrity systems) and more (ask me for details); - Exar/Neterion/S2io 10-Gbit fiber-optical (10GBASE-SR) PCI-X Ethernet NICs including transceivers, besides x86/-64 also OpenVMS and IRIX compatible (and tried/used in various systems, including HP rx2600s, rx2620s and a DS15 and also an SGI Tezro), LC FC cables optionally available, too; - Mellanox 40-Gbit InfiniBand PCI-E adapters (3 total), optional copper and fiber-optical cables, in various lengths, are also available; - various (e.g. HP) HBAs, notably SCSI (e.g. Ultra160 and Ultra320) and FC (e.g. 2-Gbit and 4-Gbit), for PCI/-X or PCI-E, many PCI/-X cards also compatible with IRIX and even OpenVMS, some include the HP-branded "combo" types, providing both dual-channel FC (HBA) and Ethernet (NIC); - various optical/tape drives and media (e.g. DVD-RAM, various data & cleaning tapes, of which many brand new), DDS/DAT of many types (e.g. DDS-2/DAT12, DDS-3/DAT24, DDS-4/DAT40 and DDS-5/DAT72) Ultrium (mostly LTO-1 and LTO-3), mostly of brands like HP (notably), Quantum and Sony... to summarize several: -- HP Ultrium LTO-3 SCSI half-height tape drives -- Quantum Ultrium LTO-1 SCSI full-height tape drive -- various Ultrium LTO-3, -2 and -1 cleaning and data cartridge tapes (mostly HP-branded) -- various (HP and Sony-branded) DDS-4/DAT40 tape drives, also one DDS-5/DAT72 drive, all with -- various DDS-5/DAT72, DDS-4/DAT40, DDS-3/DAT24, DDS-2/DAT12 and DDS-1/DAT8 tapes; - various DVD-RAM discs, both with and without the plastic caddies; - various HP, AXUS and Ciprico brand Ultra320 SCSI/S-ATA-bridged & 2-Gbit or 4-Gbit FC external enclosures, for HDDs (optionally including large capacity HDDs, also hardware RAID functionality depending per enclosure), 5?" devices and more (these can be tricky to ship, but not impossible), to summarize some of it: -- AXUS Demon SA-16U4P Ultra320 SCSI<=>S-ATA RAID storage enclosure, including 16 * 1-Tbyte S-ATA HDDs and spares --> advantages: relative low power consumption and triple-redundant power -- Ciprico/Huge Systems MediaVault 4-Gbit FC/FC-AL RAID disk array, including transceivers, 10 * 250-Gbyte P-ATA HDDs plus one or more spare HDDs --> advantages: low power consumption and rather silent -- HP StorageWorks M5313A FC/FC-AL 2-Gbit (JBOD) disk array, including transceivers and 14 * 146.8-Gbyte FC HDDs and one or two spare HDDs, too --> note: perhaps not useful for OpenVMS users as-is, as JBOD and FC-AL are a no-go, but it can be used in a larger SAN setup; - various types of printed documents/documentation (various manuals and reference guides, from e.g. SGI and Intel); - APC Smart-UPS 3000 XLM (heavy-duty, 3000VA capacity) UPS back-up battery aggregate power system, plus special APC RJ-45 USB cable (the whole unit is perhaps hard to ship, but not impossible I guess), this UPS can sustain e.g. several 2U and even some 4U HP Integrity servers for up to 30~40 minutes (depending on the loads, of course); - HP OpenVMS Alpha V8.4 SPL (Software Product Library) July 2010, including the original box and 'documents'; - lots of relatively recent 300-Gbyte and 146.8-Gbyte 80-pin (SCA/-2) and 68-pin 10K and some 15K RPM, hot-swap, SCSI HDDs (most are HP-branded); - older <=9-Gbyte SCSI disks, from various vendors, some with (e.g. DEC) firmware, with 50-, 68- and 80-pin (SCA/-2) connectors (many DEC and Compaq/HP-branded ones, relevant for OpenVMS and Digital/Tru64 UNIX, too); - HP StorageWorks 3U external 5?" SCSI expansion enclosure, room for 4 (68-pin) SCSI devices (including optical drives, tape drives and including full-height models); - PCMCIA and PC card items: SanDisk CompactFlash card reader, SIIG IEEE-1394a adapter, USB 2.0 adapter and an Adaptec Fast SCSI adapter plus cable; - Apple ADB and serial items: Griffin iMate adapters (2 total, 1 in original packaging) and Keyspan adapter; - Chieftec SNT-3141 S-ATA HDD backplane plus sleds and I can provide 3 * free 250-Gbyte S-ATA HDDs --> suggestion: perhaps useful for in a system like the HP zx2000 (if it fits, of course; I never tried it); - IBM System x central fan tray (P/N: 90P4618, FRU P/N: 26K4761) and also (e.g.) x346 rack rails (might fit on other devices/systems, too), SCSI HDD caddies, fans and more (ask me); - HP KVMIP console (PN 262589-821) 8-port extender hub, no power supply required for this; - Gefen 1080p HDMI scaler, professional grade (original box present), useful for some computers and monitors to correct aspect ratios; - non-computer items, or indirectly: professional SDI equipment, like JVC-branded CRT and LCD monitors, Miranda bridges (including for IEEE-1394a FireWire to SDI) and more, also many cables of various lengths available and also photo & video equipment (e.g. Nikon D70 plus Nikon Nikkor AF-S 18-70mm f/1:3.5-4.5G zoom lens, a barely used Sony HDR-FX1000/E plus accessories and various bits & parts and a Tamron TV Zoom Lens 12.5-75mm f/1.8 with C mount with constant aperture over the zoom range). All the items are located in the Netherlands. I'll provide more information and pictures on demand. As far as possible trades go. I'm mostly interested in lenses (mostly in Nikon F/G, Pentax K, Leica M, Leica M39, M42 and Sony E-Mount mounts), in particular fast longer telephoto lenses (135mm and above), also enlarger lenses. - MG

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DEC kit on offer in Sussex, England

by lproven＠gmail.com

A friend of a member from another mailing list has some DEC kit to dispose of. Here is what I know at present: ? Rudiments of 2 microvax 2000s, a SCSI disc, a TK50 drive and a Vaxstation 3100 An X-terminal. A couple of VT220s An LQP02 - the drive belts have rotted :( A Vaxmate A Rainbow Full inventory to follow, will have to wait for a sunny day. ? Would anyone care to suggest if any of this is worth money? -- Liam Proven ? Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lproven at gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven ? Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R)

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WTB: PDP-8/e handbook

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Eugene - I never saw a hardcopy... ed# In a message dated 11/28/2016 7:24:05 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, w2hx at w2hx.com writes: Hi all, I am in the market to obtain the PDP-8/e small computer handbook in the form of a real book. There is one on ABE books available which is softcover. I always worry about a 500 page book in softcover in terms of the binding and general sturdiness. Was there a hardcover version of this book and does anyone have one for sale? Thanks Eugene W2HX

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SWTPC 6800 issues again

by vintagecomputer＠bettercomputing.net

It tested good with my DVM when I first had it.. but the cap is original for sure... maybe I will invest in a new one even though it seemed ok. Sent from my Samsung device -------- Original message -------- From: "Ian S. King" <isking at uw.edu> Date: 2016-11-28 11:37 AM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: SWTPC 6800 issues again On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Brad H <vintagecomputer at bettercomputing.net > wrote: > Hey guys, > > > > You might recall a while back I was having issues where I'd have to power > up/power off multiple times before I'd get the 6800 to start up correctly > and give me the SWTBUG prompt.? What I did was remove an overwrought > modified RAM board and replaced it with a more basic 4K board set to the > $A000 range.? That worked great for a while, but not we're getting back to > the situation where I power up many times and get either ? marks, a string > of 4s, or some other random character.? I have to power off and on several > times before I get the $ prompt. > > > > I figured out how to run a proper RAM diagnostic and no errors came back. > I > wasn't sure how to properly test the $A000 board -? I assumed I couldn't > let > the test test the address space used by the test program itself, so I set > it > to run from A07F to AFFF (I think I did that right, I set the MSB in A002 > to > A0 and LSB in A003 to 7F, and for the upper limit MSB in A004 to AF and > A005 > to FF). > > > > I'm wondering now if this is really a RAM problem or maybe something else. > I don't think it's the serial card.. I've tried both the MP-C and MP-S and > no change. > > > > I have an NOS MP-B2 motherboard here.? The 'check pins' on the molex > connectors for the cards haven't even been cut.? I could set that up for > testing although, being totally unused I'm hesitant about altering it. > What > do you think on that? > > > > Brad > > My first question (and pardon me if this was addressed in your earlier thread) is, have you checked the power supply?? If possible, use a scope, but even a good DVM will tell you if you're maintaining voltage.? And if the filter cap is the original, just replace it - they have a limited lifespan.? I bought one from Digi-Key for $19.? Hope that helps -- Ian -- Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate The Information School <http://ischool.uw.edu> Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical Narrative Through a Design Lens Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal <http://tribunalvoices.org> Value Sensitive Design Research Lab <http://vsdesign.org> University of Washington There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

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SWTPC 6800 issues again

by vintagecomputer＠bettercomputing.net

Hey guys, You might recall a while back I was having issues where I'd have to power up/power off multiple times before I'd get the 6800 to start up correctly and give me the SWTBUG prompt. What I did was remove an overwrought modified RAM board and replaced it with a more basic 4K board set to the $A000 range. That worked great for a while, but not we're getting back to the situation where I power up many times and get either ? marks, a string of 4s, or some other random character. I have to power off and on several times before I get the $ prompt. I figured out how to run a proper RAM diagnostic and no errors came back. I wasn't sure how to properly test the $A000 board - I assumed I couldn't let the test test the address space used by the test program itself, so I set it to run from A07F to AFFF (I think I did that right, I set the MSB in A002 to A0 and LSB in A003 to 7F, and for the upper limit MSB in A004 to AF and A005 to FF). I'm wondering now if this is really a RAM problem or maybe something else. I don't think it's the serial card.. I've tried both the MP-C and MP-S and no change. I have an NOS MP-B2 motherboard here. The 'check pins' on the molex connectors for the cards haven't even been cut. I could set that up for testing although, being totally unused I'm hesitant about altering it. What do you think on that? Brad

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DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40

by henk.gooijen＠hotmail.com

Van: william degnan<mailto:billdegnan at gmail.com> Verzonden: maandag 28 november 2016 01:28 Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts<mailto:cctech at classiccmp.org> Onderwerp: Re: DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40 I have a CPU backplane populated as follows, I have checked the jumpers on the CPU cards to verify that they're correct to the options installed 1: empty 2: M7253 3: M7232 (1-4) M7237(5) 4: M7231 5: M7233 6: M7235 7: M7234 8: M7236 9: empty with GC FWIW, slot 1 is only for M7239 and slot 2 is only for M7238. I assume what you have in slot 2 is a typo, it can only be EIS. Slot 1 is for FIS. - Henk

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pdp-8e power test/lamps

by w2hx＠w2hx.com

Hi folks. As I begin getting my 8e running, after checking the PS for proper voltages and ripple I connected up the front panel. This picture is with all cards removed, just the PS and front panel. http://w2hx.com/x/VintageComp/PDP-8e/power-applied-no-cards.jpg Can anyone tell me if I have burned out bulbs (7 not illuminated in total)? Or is this inconclusive because they may be in some random state? Or, with all cards out - should I expect all lamps to illuminate? I have read all of the info/threads on bulb this great community has produced, I found a company with a stash of OL-2 which I will probably go with once I determine if I have a bulb problem or not. Thanks Eugene W2HX

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Other SMS300/8X300/8X305 uses?

by seefriek＠gmail.com

I vaguely recall a T-1 network controller with a 8x300 series controller in an X.25 node about 30 years ago, but I don't have any supporting doco. I think it's pretty clear that uses other than disk controllers were very rare. KJ

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VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Pontus Pihlgren > The machine also has a qbus which is somewhat peculiar to find in a > desktop VAX. I don't know much about Vaxen, but I think the early desktop ones all had a QBUS. I'm not sure if it was ever used for memory access; I know some used it as an I/O bus (to take advantage of all the existing QBUS I/O devices), and used an 'over-the-back' cable system for the memory bus. > However, I don't have the cables necessary to attach a QBUS expansion. > Does anyone have a set? What do they even look like? They are a pair of boards connected with a pair of 50-pin cables. The boards are different on each end, because the QBUS does not have in/out connectors which separate from device slots, like the UNIBUS; it only has regular QBUS slots, and those have grant in on different pin from grant out. So on the card at the end of one backplane, the grant line is connected to the 'grant in' pin, and on the other card, to the 'grant out' pin. There are a whole bunch of different card and variants thereof for this, with and without termination resistors, etc; the M9400/M9401 pair are for Q18 (which you won't want, I'd be pretty sure), and the M9405/M9405 for Q22. One set I know of is an M9404/M9405-YB. There's a fair amount of discussion of multi-segment QBUS systems in the QBUS PDP-11 processor/etc manuals, as far as the termination, etc goes. As to finding a set, there are some available on eBait at the moment for a not wholly unreasonable amount of money. Noel

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DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40

by billdegnan＠gmail.com

Hi all...I am hoping there is someone here who has an 11/40 or 11/35 and a M9312 ROM terminator card. I'd like to know how you have yours jumpered. I took photos of the jumpers installed in my M9312: http://www.vintagecomputer.net/digital/PDP11-40/M9312/ Here is the page from the manual that describes jumpers per UNIBUS system type: http://www.vintagecomputer.net/digital/PDP11-40/M9312/M9312_Jumper-configur… 1) Yes or no - Did I correctly identify the location of W8? 2) Yes or no - Should W8 be in for am 11 40/25/10/05 or is the /40 special? Here is the issue....when I jumper W8 the CPU can do very little and I cannot activate the CONSOLE ROM. I put in posts into what I believe is W8 so I can switch back and forth without having to re-solder. With W8 out the system works better, and I can at least get to the CONSOLE prompt. Looking for opinions as to whether my card is correctly configured. I am trying to determine why I can't bootstrap and run a TU58 nor RL11, yet I can load and run BASIC just fine. I think I may have a UNIBUS problem OR a CPU card problem, but I can't load XXDP either to determine for sure. There are more problems, I can't bootstrap the RL11 nor TU58 manually either, I am working through everything CPU and UNIBUS too. Is there a complete XXDP tape that I can download from PDPGUI? I found TU58 image but I can't get the TU58em emulator to work yet. If I could just figure out why I can load BASIC and not RL02 RT11 I'd make my day. Thanks Bill

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VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

by pontus＠Update.UU.SE

Hi I brought up a VAX 4000-100 yesterday to test DSSI disks. It worked like a charm. The machine also has a qbus which is somewhat peculiar to find in a desktop VAX. However, I don't have the cables necessary to attach a QBUS expansion. Does anyone have a set? What do they even look like? Kind Regards, Pontus.

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Bringing up a PDP-8e

by w2hx＠w2hx.com

Hi folks, This is my first vintage computing project. I have a PDP-8/e with the following boards in this order. FRONT PANEL M8330 KK8E CPU Timing board (system clock), replaces M833 M8300 \ KK8E CPU Major registers M8310 / KK8E CPU Major register control M837 MC8E Extended Memory and Time Share Control M849 SHIELD CORE1 \ CORE1 / CORE2 \ CORE2 / M8320 KK8E Bus loads Each core pair is 16KW. There are a bunch of other non-DEC boards (ECRM) that I have removed for the time being. You will notice that I have no serial board (yet. I have a line on one). I have cleaned up the machine, removed and clean out the foam, cleaned the card sockets and card edges, tested the power supply. I am ready for the next step. Next, I will put the boards back in and start testing. I am looking for some very simple programs that I can key in from the front panel to do some basic testing. I have found simple programs on the internet but they are all in assembler and I don't yet have the knowledge/tools to convert them to switch-enterable programs. For example, here are some good test programs but not directly enterable on the front panel (or at least I don't know how). http://dustyoldcomputers.com/pdp8/pdp8i/testprogs/index.html Can someone direct me to some simple sequence of switch settings to do some basic testing? Many thanks in advance Eugene W2HX PS. Here is more on the machine as received: http://w2hx.com/x/VintageComp/PDP-8e/ Also as you will find on the internet, the ECRM boards are from a company that produced electronic character recognition systems.

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OT: Looking for Jos Dreesen

by w2hx＠w2hx.com

Sorry for the bandwidth. Looking for Jos Dreesen who back in 2005 mentioned on this list that he had documentation on the ECRM OCR system. Please contact me if you can. Thanks Eugene

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Macintosh Portable

by pye＠mactec.com.au

Does anyone know off hand what polarity that Mac Portable requires? I know that the original was 7.5V @ 1.5A, but not sure of the polarity. I did have have a PB100 power supply that I used with mine, but (unfortunately) no longer have it. Also (if it still works) what is the easiest way to image the old Conner SCSI drive? It doesn?t appear to have a standard connector. I have googled this, but didn?t come up with anything useful. Thanks, Chris...

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Macintosh Portable

by spereira1952＠comcast.net

I am not certain exactly what you mean by polarity in this case, but I?m guessing that you are asking which contact is positive and which is negative. If that?s the case, the center socket is positive, and the outer jacket band is negative. I hope this helps. smp -- Stephen M. Pereira Bedford, NH 03110 KB1SXE > On Nov 27, 2016, at 1:00 PM, cctech-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 16:26:43 +1000 > From: Chris Pye <pye at mactec.com.au <mailto:pye at mactec.com.au>> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org>> > Subject: Macintosh Portable > Message-ID: <00D543B1-7E32-40DE-8829-91E3EBFCBF4A at mactec.com.au <mailto:00D543B1-7E32-40DE-8829-91E3EBFCBF4A at mactec.com.au>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Does anyone know off hand what polarity that Mac Portable requires? I know that the original was 7.5V @ 1.5A, but not sure of the polarity. > > I did have have a PB100 power supply that I used with mine, but (unfortunately) no longer have it. > > Also (if it still works) what is the easiest way to image the old Conner SCSI drive? It doesn?t appear to have a standard connector. > > I have googled this, but didn?t come up with anything useful. > > > Thanks, > Chris... > > >

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Magnetic media FTGH!

by mouse＠Rodents-Montreal.ORG

I've just dug out and inventoried two boxes of magnetic media. A little of it is not mine; a little more is stuff I'd like copies of if I can make it happen. But most of it is just going to leave soon, one way or another. I'd rather see it go to someone who can actually use it, but it is not worth the costs of keeping it around to me. I do not currently have any system on which I can check the contents of any of these (while it's possible I might get one or more set up, I can't count on it, and it's unlikely to happen soon). So, while the labeling might be accurate, it also might not. There are a bunch of TK50s (or something similar; I know there are other, similar, tapes, some similar enough to fool a quick inspection; I didn't look in detail to be sure every one is a TK50). They have labels, some printed, some scribbled, some carefully handwritten. Here, \ indicates a line break. SW/gnu \ Nov 28/91 /usr/local \ 91/10/26 6.0 + 797493 ULTRIX V4.2 \ SUPPORTED SUBSETS \ VOL. 1 ULTRIX V4.2 \ SUPPORTED SUBSETS \ VOL. 2 Sunclock \ 91/11/21 AQ-PE1F0-01 C01 \ DEC FORT ULTRIX V3.2 BIN \ TK50 AQ-PE1F0-01 \ DEC FORT ULTRIX V3.2 BIN \ TK50 ULTRIX V4.2 \ MANDATORY UPGRADE Kermit5A \ 91/11/21 DEC FORTRAN \ V3.0 (crossed out and "obsolete" written in) K2 /usr/local \ 1991/03/14 LOTUS 1-2-3 \ 91/11/19 /usr/users \ 91/10/20 swTeX.tar.Z \ 91/11/02 ULTRIX V4.2 \ UNSUPPORTED SUBSETS There are numerous quarter-inch cartridge tapes (the DC600 formfactor; many are DC600s or DC600As, but some are other sizes/lengths/formats). Some have no label. Three of these have absolutely no label, not even a manufacturer/brand label. Nine more have a brand label but no indication of their contents. One has a printed label which has been ripped off enough that all I'm sure of is that it had the usual boilerplate text for US Government users. Two others have ripped-off labels; on one, all that remains legible is "tix" at the end of a word; the other, I can see enough of a logo to be fairly sure it was an Accelr8 label. Four more have labels that are short and simple enough to fit on a single line: 89/02/22(F) ISC0D0S0 TO BE CHECKED 89/02/17 ISC0D0S0 /files! execlude ./digests & ./misc 90/10/08 cd /files Twenty-six tapes are labeled with just their sizes. These are written in my hand, so I feel fairly sure they are the result of me capcity-testing the tapes: SIZE: 30605 ?512 SIZE: 30643 ?512 SIZE: 30611 ?512 SIZE: 30730 ?512 SIZE: 30730 ?512 SIZE: 114081 ?512 SIZE: 115168 ?512 SIZE: 116769 ?512 SIZE: 118878 ?512 SIZE: 119721 ?512 SIZE: 119870 ?512 SIZE: 119891 ?512 SIZE: 120345 ?512 SIZE: 120352 ?512 SIZE: 120412 ?512 SIZE: 120586 ?512 SIZE: 120741 ?512 SIZE: 120756 ?512 SIZE: 121719 ?512 SIZE: 121722 ?512 SIZE: 121917 ?512 SIZE: 122116 ?512 SIZE: 122343 ?512 SIZE: 122608 ?512 SIZE: 122664 ?512 201796?512 Five more have sticky-notes (one on the box, one on the tape) and a size sticker. I _think_ the 3.5 here refers to version 3.5 or something (SunOS is a likely candidate). -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 1 sticker: SIZE: 121372 ?512 -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 2 sticker: SIZE: 118586 ?512 -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 3 sticker: SIZE: 119293 ?512 -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 4 sticker: SIZE: 122624 ?512 -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 5 sticker: SIZE: 120216 ?512 -- The rest are a grab-bag: -- NESTAR SYSTEMS INCORPORATED S.O. # INT4406 PLAN 5000 (tm) Boot Utility Tape QIC24 SERIAL # 6050221 SYSTEM RELEASE 5.2 (C) 1982-1986 NESTAR SYSTEMS, INC. -- NESTAR SYSTEMS INCORPORATED S.O. # INT4406 PLAN 000 (tm) PLANPAK # 712 IA BACKUP TAPE QIC SERIAL # 6060238 SYSTEM RELEASE 5 (C) 1982-1986 NESTAR SYSTEMS, INC. -- Nestar Systems, Inc. Subsidiary of DSC Communications Corporation PLAN Series (tm) Boot Uility Tape QIC-24 FS# UPGRADE Star Plus FS Release 1.10 160-12676-002 (c)1982-1988 DSC Nestar Inc -- various indistinct writing; legible bits include: 90/2/19 /FICRSI 90/04/10 DIGEST NeXT, SUN-SPOTS, SUN-386i 92/12/19 -- /HOME/ICH 10/10/90 , 11/17/90, 16/15/90 1/30/91 2/1/91 22.4.91 -- 3/15, 5/8, 7/26 (various further dates and words crossed out) SUG89 (INTERESTING STUFF ONLY) 90/12/16 -- IFUJ1 IFUJ1 90/03/19 TAR HOME/ICH 92/12/10 89/3/8 MPAQUETT 90/04/30 89/5/1 MPAQUETT 90/05/25 (indistinct) / 92/12/08 -- LAB B YEAR END 2/2 -- LAB J A3 MAY 7/93 -- LAB F YEAR END 1/2 -- LAB F YEAR END 1/2 -- LAB F YEAR END 1/2 -- LAB F YEAR END 1/2 -- LAB B YEAR END 1/2b -- LAB B 4 OF 4 LAB B 4 4 HP JAN 15 1993 n/u -- (crossed-out text omitted) ABBOTT INCR DUMP OCT-1-87 4 MAY 87 (1of2) -- NESTAR SYSTEMS INCORPORATED PLAN 1000 (tm) Print Server Version 1.1 IA BACKUP TAPE QIC- 11 P/N 160-12170-002 (C) 1981,1982,1983,1984,1985,1986,1987 NESTAR SYSTEMS, INC. Licensed Program -- SUPERSKETCH REL 6 ? A. PENTLAND 1985,1986,1987 -- LAB B 3 4 HP JAN 15 1993 -- Fall- 8AT LAB B 1 (unclear) End of Semester backup -- Accelr8 DESCRIPTION DCL8 (2,0) EDT8 (2,0) PART NUMBER 8-812-001, 002 RELEASE #: TAPE 1 OF 1 . NUMBER OF FILES BPI SN: 000646 -- (SUN 3.2 SUNBIN EXPORT 68020 logo) 1.4" Tape (boot format), 2 of 4 Part Number: 700-1256-02 Rev. A -- box: KEE 3.1 Genera 7.1 tape: 3.5 EXPORT SUNBIN 68020 1.4" Tape (boot format), 3 of 5 Part Number: 700-1600-02 Rev. A -- 13/3/89 Relax 1of2 LFRL system and saved results -- 13/3/89 Relax 2of2 -- LAB J A2 MAY 7/93 -- LAB F YEAR END 2/2 -- LAB B 2/4 -- LAB J A1 MAY 7/93 -- There are also a bunch of 5?" floppies. 34 of them are unlabeled, possibly completely unused: 9x Sony branded, DSDD 48tpi 6x Sony branded, "MD-2HD" 6x 3M branded, DS, DD, RH, MARK Q 9x BASF branded, 2S/2D 48tpi 4x Unbranded The BASF floppies from the above list are marked as being for sale to government and educational institutions only, not for resale; I don't know whether that has any bearing. Of the remaining floppies, some have labels short enough to be reasonably represented on a single line: QuickBasic 1of3 QuickBasic 2of3 QuickBasic 3of3 FW Macros d|i|g|i|t|a|l branded, unlabeled BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 28/28 85/10/28 (scratched out) BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 27/28 85/10/28 (scratched out) BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 26/28 85/10/28 (scratched out) BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 25/28 86/10/28 (scratched out) ?ACKUP ????OVMS 4.1M 6/28 85/10/28 (partially ripped off) BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 5/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 4/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 3/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 2/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 1/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 9/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 8/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 7/28 85/10/28 MS-DOS boot AG2012 Maxell branded, label ripped off, all that's legible is "FEB85" QuickBasic 1 QuickBasic 2 QuickBasic 3 Network Boot DOS 3.1 There is also a set of original Borland Turbo C diskettes: INSTALL/HELP A2B0427471 INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT COMMAND LINE/UTILITIES LIBRARIES HEADER FILES/LIBRARIES EXAMPLES/BGI/MISC and two sets of six which appear to be working copies of the above. There are three Microsoft-branded floppies: Microsoft Mouse Setup/Mouse Menus 1 Microsoft Paintbrush Program/Mouse Menus 2 Microsoft Paintbrush Utilities Disk and two that don't fit any of the above: -- label partially ripped off: remaining text is BL-N639C-BH P/OS HARD DIS DISPATCH VOLUME LABEL "PROD 1983 ? Digital Equipmen -- BitFax for Windows V2.08A (01/25/93) BitCom Deluxe with MNP5 v5.1 (06/20/91) -- This is all in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. In general, I suck at getting things shipped; local pickup, either in person or by proxy, is much preferred. I can try to find the round tuits to ship, but it's usually a losing proposition (I have at least two boxes of stuff that have been awaiting shipment for months at this point). /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

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Front Panels - PDP-8/L (Rod Smallwood)

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> > Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 08:07:00 +0000 > From: Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com> > Subject: Front Panels - PDP-8/L > > Hi Guys > > In addition to good stocks of PDP-8 panels as below I > have artwork ready to produce PDP-8/L > > panels. In order to gauge the size of the first batch please indicate > your interest. > > Rod (Panelman) Smallwood > > -- > PDP-8/e PDP-8/f PDP-8/m PDP-8/i > Front Panels ex Stock - Order Now How about making the overlay panel that goes at the top of DEC 19" racks? My PDP-8/e has the plastic part at the top of the cabinet, but the orange/yellow panel is missing. It probably uses the same colors as the 8/e front panel. -- Michael Thompson

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Wanted for RSX-11M Plus 4.6: the DECnet install tapes

by oscar.vermeulen＠hotmail.com

Hi, Memo to self: the DECnet install tape image *is* complete, my know-how isn't... As someone showed me: .mou mu3:/for .bru /rew/dir mu3: VOL1. INSTALL NETKIT 25-JAN-99 16:04:05 VOL1. NETKIT NETKIT 25-JAN-99 16:04:15 VOL1. DECKIT DECKIT 25-JAN-99 16:05:33 VOL1. PREGENRL02 ENDNODEKIT 25-JAN-99 16:07:47 BRU - Completed Beg your pardon :) Kind regards, Oscar.

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Wanted for RSX-11M Plus 4.6: the DECnet install tapes

by oscar.vermeulen＠hotmail.com

Hi, I am trying to do a clean install of RSX-11MP 4.6 on simh. I have found the install magtapes on Bitsavers, and they work fine. However, trying to install DECnet, I found only 1 of the 2 (or 3) install tapes. What is missing is the decnet11mp46-deckit tape. The accompanying **netkit** tape is on Bitsavers, but not the **deckit** tape. So you cannot complete the install process... Does anyone have this tape? I know there's an installed simh *disk* image, I also know you can fix the problem with it. But there is just nothing like having a full, proper install process to come up with your own setup :) And it would be nice if the last version is preserved completely. Kind regards, Oscar. For reference: A. installation magtapes for RSX-11 M PLUS 4.6: 1. http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtape… 2. http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtape… B. installation magtapes for the accompanying DECnet 11mp46: 1. http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtape… 2. MISSING: the DECKIT tape.

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iRMX 86 booting in simulation

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=108017#Post1… it would be really handy to have installation instructions for the 286 right now :-(

9 years, 6 months

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3000 series 33

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://www.cpushack.com/2016/11/26/hp-3000-series-33-16-bits-of-sapphire/ "Looking at the handdrawn schematic of the Series 33" ? Something Tony did?

9 years, 6 months

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Front Panels - PDP-8/L

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Hi Guys In addition to good stocks of PDP-8 panels as below I have artwork ready to produce PDP-8/L panels. In order to gauge the size of the first batch please indicate your interest. Rod (Panelman) Smallwood -- PDP-8/e PDP-8/f PDP-8/m PDP-8/i Front Panels ex Stock - Order Now

9 years, 6 months

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A good shipping service for large computers?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Todd Goodman > Did you have any issues with customs bringing in the racked equipment > from Toronto? No; it just sailed right through. The fact that it was Canada->US probably helped. IIRC PakMail in Toronto picked a customs broker - or maybe we were talking about doing that, and he decided we needn't bother? I forget now. > Both times the carrier knew it was unpalleted computer equipment and > did a good job using blankets and strapping them into the trucks. > ... > The other carrier did a great job .. They mostly ship antiques and > pianos and other items that can be fragile and not palleted > ... > Both were very competitively priced in my experience. Sounds like these were both so-called 'white glove' shippers, who do things like furniture, etc. Those are also an option, but in my experience, somewhat more expensive: when I was shipping a pair of -11/84's from California to Virginia, the shipping cost just about doubled when I had to switch from freight to 'white glove' for them. Hence my advice to palletize stuff, and send it freight (at least for cross-continent, where the difference really adds up). Noel

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A good shipping service for large computers?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Devin Davison > I am uncertain of a good service to use for the task, i need the > machines to be packaged up / put on a pallet at the pickup location I have had good luck with PakMail (http://www.pakmail.com/); I've had them ship a couple of 6' racks (one from Arizona, one from Toronto), and been very happy with the results. The shipping cost in the Arizona case may not have been the absolute lowest possible I could have secured had I been on the spot, looking around, but.. I wasn't on the spot, looking around; and it was pretty reasonable (I've shipped a number of large items from the West Coast, so I think I'm reasonably well calibrated). And they went to the person's house, picked the thing up, put it on a pallet, and shipped it. A tip for keeping costs down when shipping via freight (i.e. on a pallet, which generally is a key thing to do to keep costs down) to one's house (i.e. not a place with a loading dock): if you have a vehicle which can hold the item(s), have it/them delivered to the nearest freight terminal, not the house, and go pick it up. That way, they won't have to roll a truck with a lift-gate to your house, which is an extra cost. Every line I've ever used (SAIA, FedEx Freight, etc) were happy, when one arrives to pick it up, to dump the shipment in their yard, and let one take everthing off the pallet and load it all into your vehicle. (But check with your local terminal first, to make sure they're OK with it. And check the weather prediction to pick the day to go get it! :-) And you generally save a couple of days, too. I have discovered that a Ford Taurus wagon nicely holds an H960 6'x19" rack (I joked that the car must have been designed by someone who collects old gear :-), so I have been able to pick up a shipment consisting of _two_ H960's this way: one inside, and one on the roof rack. With only one person, one has to remove the heavy units first, and put them in the car separately, but it can be done. Noel

9 years, 7 months

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A good shipping service for large computers?

by lyokoboy0＠gmail.com

I have purchased 3 large SGi crimson computers and need them shipped from california to florida. I am uncertain of a good service to use for the task, i need the machines to be packaged up / put on a pallet at the pickup location, the owner is unable to do so. Usualy I would use YRC freight, however they do not offer the service to package the machines on site. Hopefully someone here can make a suggestion. Ive never dealt with shipping something this large before. I did have a Microvax 3800 shipped with YRC freight, however that was purchased through a business and was packaged before shipping. The crimsons will be a bit larger. I have the machines paid for, but figuring out the shipping has had me a bit stumped for the past few days. --Devin

9 years, 7 months

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A good shipping service for large computers?

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

we liked our winstar that was on a taurus wagon chassis I was told... wish we still had it hauled a lot of stuff in it! currently have a subaru forester... unfortunately is is not as much volume as the winstar with the seats out! I hear the outback has a longer cargo area.Ed# In a message dated 11/25/2016 8:57:21 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, elson at pico-systems.com writes: On 11/25/2016 05:49 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > I have discovered that a Ford Taurus wagon nicely holds an H960 6'x19" rack > (I joked that the car must have been designed by someone who collects old > gear :-), so I have been able to pick up a shipment consisting of _two_ > H960's this way: one inside, and one on the roof rack. With only one person, > one has to remove the heavy units first, and put them in the car separately, > but it can be done. > No, it was designed by a guy whose wife plays harp in the symphony. My cousin does that, and the Taurus from years ago was the only station wagon that would fit it. The others came up short by just one inch! Jon

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Turkey Day Scans: TELEX

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

well that is good stuff and your scan were well done many thanks ! Ed# In a message dated 11/25/2016 8:24:55 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, silent700 at gmail.com writes: On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 4:03 AM, <COURYHOUSE at aol.com> wrote: > These are very nice! thank you for posting them! > do you have anything else twx, telex or teletype? Not that I've run across yet. There are some more terminal brochures to come, however. Informer, among others. j

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Turkey Day Scans: TELEX

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

These are very nice! thank you for posting them! do you have anything else twx, telex or teletype? Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 11/24/2016 10:52:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, silent700 at gmail.com writes: I received another big pile of random documentation this week and these floated to the top and landed directly on my scanner: http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/WesternUnion Circa 1968-9 Western Union TELEX brochures, rate charts and a little bit of ASR32 technical data. Really interesting stuff for fans of early data networks, as well as groovy graphic design! Enjoy... -j

9 years, 7 months

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Data General CS 200n (Ebay warning)

by jwsmail＠jwsss.com

This system has several tape drives, and possibly some Eclipse era processor. If someone knows what this is they may want to rescue it. There are three what appear to be 6' racks with various tape devices, and a desk high cabinet. There are two 3 or so switch front panels, one on one of the 6' racks, and one on the low boy rack, may be a simple reset run power type panel for each. Lincoln Nebraska 4822.33 bucks Data-General-Model-CS-Series-200n-Commercial-Series-Terminal-Controller-Vintage/ http://www.ebay.com/itm/282212431051 No interest, just reporting. May want to ask the vendor if there is more to this, and whether a possible system was scrapped. If so explain to them that they have scrap iron, and should have sold the system cabinets for real money. thanks Jim

9 years, 7 months

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Are there mailing lists or groups just tor ... (Al Kossow)

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> > Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 08:46:19 -0800 > From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> > Subject: Re: Are there mailing lists or groups just tor ... > > There are none that I know of. I've been doing a lot of work this year > archiving > VME information and firmware. > > there's not a lot out there for software, though beyond NetBSD > > On 11/24/16 10:51 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > VME based systems ? I've been given a VME chassis and want to build up a > > 68K based system for fun. > > > > TIA > > > > -pete > My employer is a member of VITA, the group that does the VME standards. I am working with VITA management to get members to send AL documentation on older VME products, and hopefully software too. I am sure that there are plenty of people on this list that would help you get a VME system running. Early Sun systems were VME based, and their documentation on the VMEbus is very good. Michael Thompson

9 years, 7 months

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Are there mailing lists or groups just tor ...

by mnusa2＠hotmail.com

Pete, You can start with www.m88k.com You can email me for information. BR Matti On 11/24/16 10:51 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > VME based systems ? I've been given a VME chassis and want to build up a > 68K based system for fun. > > HP 9000/3xx ? I think I asked this one before. But can't find searching the > archives or my email. > > TIA > > -pete >

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Are there mailing lists or groups just tor ...

by pete＠petelancashire.com

VME based systems ? I've been given a VME chassis and want to build up a 68K based system for fun. HP 9000/3xx ? I think I asked this one before. But can't find searching the archives or my email. TIA -pete

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Membership disabled due to bounces

by chocolatejollis38＠gmail.com

Gmail is only the single most reliable mail provider in the world, and bounces never happen. Is anybody ever going to fix this brain dead, bone headed bug, or can we expect to continue getting memberships disabled every couple of weeks?

9 years, 7 months

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Thanksgiving Day

by c.murray.mccullough＠gmail.com

I wanted to wish all American readers of this list a very happy Thanksgiving Day from a reader in Canada. Reading 'Classic Computing' still plays an important part in my appreciation of the role of computers from earlier years in why I still enjoy working with computers. Happy computing. Murray :)

9 years, 7 months

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Turkey Day Scans: TELEX

by silent700＠gmail.com

I received another big pile of random documentation this week and these floated to the top and landed directly on my scanner: http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/WesternUnion Circa 1968-9 Western Union TELEX brochures, rate charts and a little bit of ASR32 technical data. Really interesting stuff for fans of early data networks, as well as groovy graphic design! Enjoy... -j

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Membership disabled due to bounces

by rlloken＠telus.net

On Thu, 24 Nov 2016, Graham Toal wrote: > Not so. By doing nothing (ie NOT creating an SPF record for the sending > domain) you pretty much guarantee a lack of problems. (At least, these > specific problems). It's the smart aleck admins who do create SPF records > etc who cause the problems, in conjunction with recipients that think these > records are worth paying attention to. The irony is that SPF was invented > by the advertising industry to ensure that their so called 'legitimate' > bulk mail gets through; it does very little to stop actual spam and it > completely messes up mailing lists and people who use traditional SMTP mail > while travelling. Sorry, I shouldn't start on SPF, it just drives me > crazy. If you are a DNS admin, *please* don't fall for the SPF bullshit. > (For some reason Microsoft are totally enamored of it and twist their > clients' arms to enable it :-/ ) You are preaching to the choir. Some of the first implementers of SPFs were outfits that the rest of us would call spammers. As for Micro$oft, my employer trashed our Zimbra and PMDF servers and sent us over to Office365 so now I spend my time babysitting Exchange in the cloud, writing PowerShell scripts, and waiting a Micro$oft minute for things to happen that used to be immediate. And you are right, Micro$ofts loves SPFs but they do nothing at all to expedite our mail through their servers. And in honour of Micro$oft, SPFs, and my 21st century managers, I am retiring in 29 days. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our Athabasca, Alberta Canada : heads are naked!" ** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black

9 years, 7 months

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Reverse-engineering WD1000, WD1001 hard disk controllers

by spacewar＠gmail.com

I've been working a little bit off-and-on for years on reverse-engineering the WD1000 and WD1001 disk controllers (8X300/8X305-based), and their clones. I've only made any significant progress within the last few days, after hacking together my own disassesmbler which deals with the Fast I/O Select PROM. I do NOT recommend using this disassembler yet, for reasons that are explained in the README, but I've put it on github: https://github.com/brouhaha/s8x30x I've made some progress interpreting the firmware of an early WD1000, which only had 512 words of firmware, and didn't support run-time configurable sector size selection. So far I've figured out how they handle the host reading and writing the task file, dispatching the commands, and much of the sector ID search.

9 years, 7 months

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Membership disabled due to bounces

by rlloken＠telus.net

On Thu, 24 Nov 2016, John H. Reinhardt wrote: > I was thinking of changing my email to another provider even though I've had > this one for at least 12 years. But if it's because of a configuration > problem, then other providers may react the same way so will it do any good? I doubt that changing your email provider will help. My mail is constantly being disabled now that I am using my ISP address but it wasn't while I was using my work email address but I think that is a coincidence - the problem did not manifest itself until a few weeks after I changed my email address. By the way, I am my employer's email administrator and I know that I was not doing anything special to make the email go through - no spf records, no nothing. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our Athabasca, Alberta Canada : heads are naked!" ** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black

9 years, 7 months

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Membership disabled due to bounces

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

seems odd some list serves have this problem and some do not out there... which would suggest it may be a matter of the way the listserv is configured. I hear people with yahoo mail complain about some list serves but they also say some cause no problem at all. Most of it is a mystery to me as I have not run a listserv on a server or a mailserver.. Ed# In a message dated 11/23/2016 10:05:13 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com writes: On 11/23/2016 8:00 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016, Michael Brutman wrote: >> Gmail routinely marks these emails as spam. And Gmail clearly says: " It >> has a from address in aol.com but has failed aol.com's required tests for >> authentication." >> >> Digging deeper into the header one finds: >> >> "Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of >> cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org designates 199.188.211.196 as permitted >> sender) client-ip=199.188.211.196; >> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; >> dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=(a)mx.aol.com; >> spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of >> cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org designates 199.188.211.196 as permitted >> sender) smtp.mailfrom=cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org; >> dmarc=fail (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=aol.com" >> >> >> I'm no expert on dmarc, but that looks to be the source of the pain. > > Do we have any evidence that his messages are affecting the rest of us, > though? > I get disabled regularly. My address is at Yahoo. Currently I'm sitting at 2.0 out of 5.0 for my bounce score. The previous disabled messages came at: 11/20/2016 11/06/2016 10/25/2016 10/18/2016 10/13/2016 10/05/2016 09/26/2016 09/10/2016 08/23/2016 08/11/2016 08/06/2016 08/01/2016 07/19/2016 07/10/2016 07/01/2016 A fairly uneven distribution. None repeating sooner than 5 days and sometimes taking up to 18 days before hitting the 5.0 bounce limit. I was thinking of changing my email to another provider even though I've had this one for at least 12 years. But if it's because of a configuration problem, then other providers may react the same way so will it do any good? John H. Reinhardt

9 years, 7 months

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Membership disabled due to bounces

by barythrin＠gmail.com

Ditto although my timing was odd and I may have gotten the notice prior to replying. ?I emailed Jay off list but understandably he should be having some family time during this holiday break and not having to worry about us right now :-) Hopefully there's a log or something noting what the mail service did or what bounced if anything. -------- Original message --------From: Adrian Stoness <tdk.knight at gmail.com> Weird I got one of these notices today when I replayed to a thread

9 years, 7 months

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Fan deal?

by cclist＠sydex.com

Dunno if this will appeal to any of the readership, but Electronics Goldmine is offering a box of 30 new Papst 80 mm 24 volt fans for $10. http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G21651A I like Papst as a good brand. I just have no use of 30 24 volt fans. --Chuck

9 years, 7 months

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Happy turkey day to the list

by barythrin＠gmail.com

Should we do some sort of tradition of what vintage computing item we're thankful for? If ?that's too much of a repeat it could be a vintage project this year that you're thankful for. I know we're all thankful for Jay and classiccmp.org. I'm thankful for my recent successful visit to San Jose. ?I was fortunate enough to get to experience both Weird Stuff (first time) and the CHM (2nd time but previous was VCF 10). Was great to hear some other visitors at the museum bringing up memories and some chatter about teaching kids about old tech. One visitor was talking about how he had a class do a sort of human logic array so they'd hold hands if it was true or false (like the battery, thread spindle/paperclip, light bulb intro form building your own computer books). Picked up some Byte magazines from Weird Stuff as a souvenir and of course bought some shirts and a donation to support the museum. On the 8.5 hour drive back to wgere i was supposed to be I listened to some old RCR podcasts I think it was David Greelish, Bill Degnan, Earl Evans and Jason Scott) lol. Probably one of the first couple episodes. Good time and you all kept me awake on a dark Pacific Highway 1. So thankful for you all too. :-p? - John

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Membership disabled due to bounces

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

no the only one that gets bounced is me. and I have to re enable it every so often not a lot though.... just sometimes In a message dated 11/23/2016 4:57:44 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, charles.unix.pro at gmail.com writes: On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote: > >>>> On Wed, 23 Nov 2016, Ian Finder wrote: > >> Not an expert on mailing lists, but I wonder if the fact that gmail always >> puts COURYHOUSE into the spam folder due to AOL weirdness is the signal >> source for the bounce? >> > > ^^^ Mis-attributed; I (Charles) said that, and I have no data to go on -- pure speculation. -- Charles

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iRMX II lives!

by aek＠bitsavers.org

Used Dave's emulator to image the hd in an Intel SYP310 and to my surprise it had an iRMX II (286) development toolchain on it. The MAME guys got it running in simulation in about 30 minutes. Anyone have any documentation or software distributions? iRMX development stuff is extremely hard to find, esp the 286 version.

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curious claim questioned [was RE: Free IBM system/1(?) in eastern US.]

by RichA＠livingcomputers.org

From: jim stephens Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 3:21 PM > the Ultimate system was the only Non IBM written supervisor / system > that ran on mainframes at the time. You're going to have to be more specific than that. At what time? On what mainframe(s)? Are you saying that by the time Ultimate, whatever that is when it's at home, was running, no other non-IBM OSes were running on IBM hardware, all others being dead? Or that Ultimate was earlier than, say, MTS on IBM hardware? And are you claiming that no other manufacturers' systems are mainframes? What are you saying? Rich Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Living Computers: Museum + Labs 2245 1st Avenue S Seattle, WA 98134 mailto:RichA at LivingComputers.org http://www.LivingComputers.org/

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Novell was Re: TRIAD

by barythrin＠gmail.com

I think it's the hardware or server company folks might have an attachment towards. I only saw novell 3.x and up but it was all standard x86 arch. Did they support other platforms? -------- Original message --------?Not many here seem to be into preserving Novell servers and such. ?? I could be mistaken. Bill

9 years, 7 months

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Help! Looking for rolls of paper tape for teletypes, twx and telex all

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Help! Looking for rolls of paper tape for teletypes, twx and telex all widths. As we have an array of these machines at SMECC and like to demo them and always need tape to print on and punch! Size varies between just smaller than 3/6 inch to one inch wide and several sizes in between. Please check your closets and storage... you may have some and not know it! drop a note off list please to us. Thanks Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC

9 years, 7 months

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ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

by henk.gooijen＠hotmail.com

Van: Guy Sotomayor Jr<mailto:ggs at shiresoft.com> Verzonden: woensdag 23 november 2016 17:29 Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts<mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> Onderwerp: Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options > On Nov 23, 2016, at 7:11 AM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com> wrote: > > > 3) I would not mind getting something like Guy's UA11 to test with. Are > these available? > Yes, they are still available (along with KM11s) TTFN ? Guy ------ I soldered my two KM11?s last Sunday! I bought them from you at least eight years ago! Going to put them to good use solving issues in my 11/10 and 11/40 ? BTW, my 11/35 booted from RL02. But at the moment the 11/35 has issues ? Regarding an SLU in slot 9: AFAIR, the M7800 does not use nor connect NPR, So the M7800 will go well in slot 9 regardless of BG and NPR present or not.

9 years, 7 months

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TRIAD (was RE: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

The "scrapper" in NC that has the Triad contacted me directly, he had seen the discussion of the system in the classiccmp archives. He wasn't sure how to get his contact info out there, so he emailed me with his name and direct phone number. I don't want to just post it publicly (although it may already be out there somewhere, I don't know). If someone is spearheading the effort to save this machine, please contact me offlist and I'll provide the contact info. Best, J

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