- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/1/2002 7:55:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, vze2mnvr(a)verizon.net writes: << > on a public mailing list And one that get's archived permanently into one of the worlds most heavily used search engines. Might as well stand out in front of IBM and shout it out. >> calm down, no one has admitted to anything including myself. talk is just talk. nothing has even been done. --

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SCO Open Desktop (Re: Tape drive needed)

by ken＠seefried.com

My first "real" job was heavily involved with SCO. We (SecureWare) wrote the C2 subsystem for SCO. To actually load this software, there should be a blue or pink card with a serial number on it. On December 29, Chad Fernandez wrote: > The other day I found a SCO Open Desktop 2.0.0 media kit, on Qic24 > tape. I don't have the correct drive...... I don't have any tape drive > experience, actually. > > Does anybody have an unneeded Qic24 SCSI tape drive? I checked Ebay and > I didn't see anything that I thought was what I needed. Pretty much any drive that reads 60MB DC600A tapes should be able to read these tapes, but you will need to find a supported controller. I remember using Wangtek drives & controllers. > This is going back into a very fuzzy memory...but does anyone know > if an Archive 2150S drive (QIC-150) will read QIC-24 tapes? Yup...a 2150S should read these tapes. I'm pretty sure the Adaptec 154x controllers are supported by the install software. Ken

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SCO Install (was Tape Drive)

by ken＠seefried.com

My first "real" job was heavily involved with SCO. We (SecureWare) wrote the C2 subsystem for SCO (among other interesting things). BTW...To actually load this software, there should be a blue or pink card with a serial number on it. I don't know if the current free SCO license covers stuff this old. On December 29, Chad Fernandez wrote: > The other day I found a SCO Open Desktop 2.0.0 media kit, on Qic24 > tape. I don't have the correct drive...... I don't have any tape drive > experience, actually. > > Does anybody have an unneeded Qic24 SCSI tape drive? I checked Ebay and > I didn't see anything that I thought was what I needed. Pretty much any drive that reads 60MB DC600A tapes should be able to read these tapes, assuming it has a controller supported by the install program. I remember using Wangtek and Archive non-SCSI drives & controllers. > This is going back into a very fuzzy memory...but does anyone know > if an Archive 2150S drive (QIC-150) will read QIC-24 tapes? Yup...a 2150S (or 2060S, I suppose) should read these tapes, as will other SCSI drives that read DC600As. As I recall, the Adaptec 154x controllers are supported by the install software, among others. Ken

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WTB SGI Indy

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

R. P. Bell said: > Anybody got any good suggestions on where to go to get a nice SGI Indy, just > for playing around -- preferably cheap? Want to tell us where you are or define "cheap"? I thought I saw one at the local university surplus outlet a coupla weeks ago; don't recall the price, but I didn't take it home. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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VMS 6.1 S/W Kit

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

I just bought a VMS 6.1 media kit (I think): VMS 6.1 'Binaries and DOc disc' 'COnsolidated software distribution' (Jul 1994) 'Online documentation' (april 1994) SO, did I score, or did I blow $10? Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment

by jwbirdsa＠picarefy.com

Supposing one has a farm of older, relatively slower machines (Sun-2's, Sun-3's, early SPARCs, 386es, very small VAXen, 68k-based Macs, etc.) running various Unixes (mostly NetBSD), networked together and connected to the Net. What does one do with it? I've been trying to think of some interesting, moderately useful distributed-computing project that they could sit and crank away at and haven't come up with much of anything. All the distributed projects that I know of are distributed because even fast machines aren't enough by themselves -- a trailing-edge farm can't make a useful contribution. If network Tierra (an artificial-life research project) had ever come to pass, that would have been a superb application for these beasts. But it didn't. Ideas, anyone? Please? --James B.

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Seagate MFM drives available

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/31/01 12:11:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com writes: > I got a bunch of functioning seagate MFM drives available. ST-225,238 and 251 > > models as well as some big FH models. All survived a LLF too. Controller > cables also if you need them. Email if interested. > Where are they located?

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Even more SCSI drives available

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I have 7 Conner CP1080E drives with a sun quick-release mounting bracket on them. No specs on these drives, so go Google for that. Because the unique connector, I cannot test these either.

24 years, 6 months

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Warp 4 Redux

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/1/2002 8:55:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, wpointon(a)earthlink.net writes: > i never would have accused you of that -- i am a very patient person -- > i have to be with the lousy slow dialup internet access i am stuck > with -- if you are referring again to warp 4 server i would love to > download a copy but if you put it up for ftp you will have to leave it > up long enough for my max 20 meg/hour speed to get it all -- much > obliged for your consideration ---- billp > > On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 01:28 AM, Doc Shipley wrote: > > > Y'all thought I blew it off, didn't ya? > > Several of you asked about it, but I expect the best way to handle it > > is off-list. > > .... > > > > Doc > > > why not have some duplicate the CD and take it from there? ...

24 years, 6 months

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Warp 4 Redux

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I have access to high speed cd burner and could make duplicates the minute I get my hands on the cd... In a message dated 1/1/2002 5:02:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, wpointon(a)earthlink.net writes: << i will volunteer to copy them if no one else has any kind of whiz bang cd duplicator and can do it quicker -- or we could make this faster with a tree algorithm -- i will dupe some and send them on to some others who will dupe them again for more interested parties -- how many interested parties do we have? ----- thanx - billp On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 04:15 PM, SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/1/2002 8:55:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, > wpointon(a)earthlink.net writes: > > > i never would have accused you of that -- i am a very patient person -- > i have to be with the lousy slow dialup internet access i am stuck > with -- if you are referring again to warp 4 server i would love to > download a copy but if you put it up for ftp you will have to leave it > up long enough for my max 20 meg/hour speed to get it all -- much > obliged for your consideration ---- billp > > On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 01:28 AM, Doc Shipley wrote: > > > ?Y'all thought I blew it off, didn't ya? > > ?Several of you asked about it, but I expect the best way to handle it > > is off-list. > > ?.... > > > > ????Doc > > > > > > why not have some duplicate the CD and take it from there? ... >> -- Kwanzaa is NOT a real holiday.

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Any AMIGA users?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

Decided to pull out my amiga 500 and a PHOENIX hard drive that fits it. plugged it all in and the hard drive spins up, but the amiga still prompts for a system floppy. can a PC download and create an amiga system disk? i want to see what this computer is capable of. -- Kwanzaa is NOT a real holiday.

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Hep me!! scsi adapter DOS drivers (ot?)

by vze2mnvr＠verizon.net

Dick, That was a strange one. Now I understand the reference to it's being dangerous to even have in the car. Actually, I found many tape backup programs to be unsatisfactory, mostly because I was getting larger and larger tape drives faster than the backup software ( that I liked ) was supporting them. I like PC Tools for disk and file management. I haven't ever really liked any tape backup software, to the point that I hardly even like tape drives anymore, and would rather just backup a hard drive to another hard drive of equal capacity. Ian Richard Erlacher wrote: > > I gave a fellow a ride to the office once, because his wife needed his car, > since hers was in the shop. He had, in his briefcase, which he left in the > car, a copy of the then-current PC-Tools suite, that he'd bought that > morning at the computer store where I picked him up. At the moment we drove > into the lot, all the systems in the building went down and wouldn't run > again until I sent this fellow, together with my car, on an errand to fetch > some parts, after which the systems all came up and functioned nicely until > he returned, at which time the whole kit and caboodle crashed again. His > wife later picked up the copy of PC-Tools from him, and, when she left with > it, all the systems promptly came back to life and continued to operate > nominally. This was, BTW, before Windows9x. > > >From this, I conclude that it wasn't the car, it wasn't the briefcase, it > wasn't the guy, but it was that one item that apparently was the index. > > Dick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Koller" <vze2mnvr(a)verizon.net> > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>; "Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com>; "Ben > Franchuk" <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 11:33 AM > Subject: Re: Hep me!! scsi adapter DOS drivers (ot?) > > > > > > > > But all I want to do is read a CD rom from $#@! DOS! > > > > But someone was having problems downloading these ASPI > > managers from Adaptec's site, so it's a second alternative > > source. Some might not have realized that if they have the > > PCTools program, they may already have these drivers, and > > just not have known it. > > > > > Why would anybody use PC-Tools-anything???? It's dangerous > > > even to have it the car, let alone bringing it inside ... > > > > Dick, I used that program for a long time. I never had any > > problems with it. I found it to be a useful suite of tools > > for disk and file management in the "DOS" days. > > > > > > Why not simply use what ADAPTEC provides? > > > > Those ASPI managers were provided by Adaptec. They were the > > "real deal". Licensed by Central Point Software to be included > > in the PC Tools package. > > > > > > > > > > Richard Erlacher wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Why not simply use what ADAPTEC provides? There's nothing else that > does > > > the job better, though there are MANY driver sets that do it worse, > notably > > > the stuff from IOMEGA. > > > > > > Dick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ian Koller" <vze2mnvr(a)verizon.net> > > > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>; "Ben Franchuk" > <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca>; > > > "Ron Hudson" <rhudson(a)cnonline.net> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 9:26 AM > > > Subject: Re: Hep me!! scsi adapter DOS drivers (ot?) > > > > > > > > It's been a while, so I may not be remembering correctly, > > > > but I think PC Tools had a series of Adaptec ASPI drivers > > > > with it, probably to support the backup program ( to SCSI > > > > tape drives ). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ben Franchuk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ron Hudson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --probably off topic... > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure of the age of the board but > > > > > > Adaptec seems to think it's not supportable > > > > > > any more... :^( > > > > > > > > > > > > Anybody have DOS ASPI drivers for the > > > > > > ADAPTEC AHA-1542CF?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tis an ISA scsi card with floppy attach > > > > > > and I have it in a 486 machine > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > > > The machine seems to be a 486dx in a "lunchbox" > > > > > > style case with color lcd. looks like a normal > > > > > > motherboard is inside.. > > > > > > > > > > > > goes by the name of PCIII, with no other markings > > > > > > as to MFG. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any one know anything about this? > > > > > > > > > > Don't look at me... I still have my 1542 in this PC here > > > > > and no drivers.I could use the 'dos' drivers to read a CDROM just in > > > > > case > > > > > 95 crashes and I need to reload windows. > > > > > -- > > > > > Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu * > > > > > www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > >

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VMS 6.1 S/W Kit

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 1, jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com wrote: > I just bought a VMS 6.1 media kit (I think): > > VMS 6.1 'Binaries and DOc disc' > 'COnsolidated software distribution' (Jul 1994) > 'Online documentation' (april 1994) > > > SO, did I score, or did I blow $10? I'd say you scored...the CSD is very cool to have, even if 6.1 is a little old. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 6 months

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VAXStation 16MB simms on ebay

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1315144257 I believe this is the part number that will fit the VAXStation 4000 m90, and maybe a few others. Still nearly two days to go. A few price points: Last I heard, dealers were buying at ~$1(US)/MB. My 1st 64MB kit was ~$68, and my second 64MB kit was ~$48. Bob

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Too much college? (was: Connectors (was: NEXT Color Printer find

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 1, John Allain wrote: > > ...Marconi, become the "inventor of Radio" which we > > are now celebrating, despite the fact that Tesla won > > a court decision ... > > One book I have (I think it was written in the 1930's, when the > people who knew the history were Alive) suggested that Radio > was Discovered rather than invented. Some people were > working on well calibrated Telegraph equipment and noticed > that they could get signals from a loop that wasn't physically > connected to the recieving loop. This of course set of alot of > peoples' curiosity going and led to directed experimentation > and then the Science only much later. This is a very interesting piont...I think there's a pretty clear line between invention and discovering a phenomenon and then devising a way to control or take advantage of it. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 6 months

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Warp 4 Redux

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Y'all thought I blew it off, didn't ya? Several of you asked about it, but I expect the best way to handle it is off-list. .... Doc

24 years, 6 months

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Nomenclature (was: NEXT Color Printer find

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>If WE use the wrong term >amongst ourselves, we'll certainly never show others that there's benefit in >calling it a crescent wrench when, to some folks, "the silver-colored >thingie," would do. But, given the arguments that have been going on, you shouldn't call it a Crescent wrench either. That is the name of the manufacturer of a particular kind of wrench, and although generally accepted as meaning an "adjustable wrench" is not any more technically correct than the "Centronics" connector's name. If you ask some mechanics for a crescent wrench, you might get locking pliers... ones that are commonly called a "Vise Grip", which is ALSO technically incorrect for the same reason Crescent is wrong. But then, for the question of the century... if you strictly adhere to calling an item by its name, and NOT by the commonly used term, which in many cases is the manufacturer's or common usage name... what should you call a Yo-Yo? (just seeing how many people know the answer to this one) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Too much college? (was: Connectors (was: NEXT Color Printer find

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>But didn't he develop the first practical commercial electric chair as >part of his promotion of his power transmission system? >Electrocution is much more energy efficient than having to melt a pot of >iron. Yes... but not as a promotion for HIS power transmission, but rather as a DEMOTION for Westinghouse's. Edison believed in DC power, Westinghouse was pushing AC. In an effort to show that DC was safer than AC, Edison electrocuted an Elephant with Westinghouse's AC power. From there it lead to the Electric Chair as a means of execution. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Connectors (was: NEXT Color Printer find

by mhstein＠usa.net

Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:30:31 -0600 (CST) From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> Having not only been a rider myself, but also a Triumph/BSA dealer in a past life, not to mention having owned my share of Austins, Hillmans, etc., I'm ROFLMAO... mike ------------Original Message------------ Subject: Re: Connectors (was: NEXT Color Printer find On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: > > The only place that I have EVER met any people who claimed to be > "engineers" who might "have never heard of Amphenol" would be some > university folk who have never set foot into the real world. > "I'm an automotive engineer; I've never heard of 'Lucas Electric'"? Being a long-time British/European rider, I gotta ask... Was Amphenol *that* bad? :^) Doc ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1

24 years, 6 months

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KIM-1 (was Re: Cheap Video cookbooks and machines WTD)

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Ethan Dicks wrote: > The KIM is one of the items on my list from that era to aquire (got a > SYM-1 and an AIM-65). I'd love to see a website about a clone. Was it > this - http://home.hccnet.nl/g.baltissen/kim-rb.gif - you were thinking > of? A schematic, but no board layout (I can generate schematics all day > long with OrCAD, but for a variety of reasons, I've never been able to > successfully migrate one of my designs to a layout package, which is why > the Elf99 project stalled). Ethan, I have Orcad 9 Capture and Layout and could provide some PCB resourse if needed. Design would probably be double sided. A single sided PCB design would be prefered from a "homebrew" point of view but I don't think it would be practical. Chris Leyson

24 years, 6 months

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Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment

by Golemancd＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/30/01 11:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca writes: << www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html >> y do u need a bigger network

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Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment

by Golemancd＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/31/01 11:36:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de writes: << http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/ >> i would say connect it to the web with a modern pc and use the bandwith of whatever connection u have with that pc and write a program to write messages to each compute on the network joee

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Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment

by Golemancd＠aol.com

my thinking was to just devide the data up into threads and have each thread work on a part of the data at a time. whether this be one cpu or several. one thread could be listening and deligating and other threads could be doing the rest of the work. not sure how much processor power it would take but originally i was just thinking about the network sort of just passing messages with each bot having its own processor internally. and handling it itself or maybe having the network do the work and pass text to the bot . joe

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Too much college? (was: Connectors (was: NEXT Color Printer find

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 31, John Allain wrote: > I remember in the interval graduation+(1..10) I used > Integration only once, and it was to calculate the position > on a VHS tape given its spindle speed(s). > Nowadays every VCR does real time display. Wonder > why it took so long to happen? Imean it was only a 1-line > polynomial. Yes, but could it have been done back then without increasing the cost of the hardware very much? It probably would've involved a small microprocessor. Hmm, could such a thing be accomplished with a lookup table in a ROM? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Too much college? (was: Connectors (was: NEXT Color Printer find

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 31, Mike Ford wrote: > >OB_CC: That makes the old Apple ad exceptionally out of line. Apple's ad > >said that if Edison were to have had an Apple, he could have simulated > >everything, instead of actually having to try things out in his > >workshop. Would he? > > Edison was much more a technition than an inventor. He took other peoples > unique ideas and made working units. True, but creativity certainly isn't limited to the "all theory and no practice" crowd. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 6 months

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Secret Weapons of Commodore update

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

The 10th edition of the Secret Weapons of Commodore has been released, a collection of articles, photographs, specifications and lots of conjecture on unreleased, rare or unusual Commodore peripherals and computers. Here's what's newly discovered: * New entries: * The Multi-User Cash Terminal Register, with pictures! (thanks T.J.T. van Kooten) * Microchess for the Commodore 64 and KIM-1! By permission of Peter Jennings, the original programmer, the source code and hex dump of the original Microchess is available for download, along with a port to the C64/128 by yours truly authorised by Peter for those without a KIM-1. See also the Chessmate entry! (thanks Peter Jennings, Paul Foerster) * New pictures: * The VIC-21, including badge and box (thanks Bo Zimmerman) * TV Game 200K (Bo encore) * Ultimax MiniBASIC portrait and screenshot (thanks RaYzor) * Updates: * History of the VIC-21 (Bo double encore) * Updates to the 900 entry, including new photos link, cleanup of the history of the Z8000/80000, and footnote about the ZEUS (thanks Claus Schoenleber, Tony Duell, et al.) * Hardware information and complete history of the Chessmate thanks to its original creator (yes, Peter Jennings created the Chessmate too) * Analysis of the VIC-1001 ROMs vs. the VIC-20's (thanks Marko Makela, William Levak) * Where Agnus really came from (thanks Jim Williams) * What ICS means, Amiga graphics notes (thanks Ville Jouppi) * Where to find Magic Voice 6525 chips, and another MV cartridge (thanks Nicolas Welte, Nick Coplin) * various custodial updates The URL is, as always, http://www.retrobits.com/ckb/secret/ Have fun, -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- "I'd love to go out with you, but my personalities each need therapy." -----

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Tape drive needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Ahh, while another thread is busy eating bandwidth on the subject of terminology...it's a drive, not a drive in a chassis. ;) I'd have to find it first; I just moved. I think I know where it is, though. I'm most desperately in need of cash at the moment, but I can't imagine this drive being worth much. Got anything cool to swap? -Dave On December 31, Chad Fernandez wrote: > Dave is this an external or an internal drive? What would you want for > it? > > Chad Fernandez > Michigan, USA > > Dave McGuire wrote: > > > > On December 29, Chad Fernandez wrote: > > > The other day I found a SCO Open Desktop 2.0.0 media kit, on Qic24 > > > tape. I don't have the correct drive...... I don't have any tape drive > > > experience, actually. > > > > > > Does anybody have an unneeded Qic24 SCSI tape drive? I checked Ebay and > > > I didn't see anything that I thought was what I needed. > > > > This is going back into a very fuzzy memory...but does anyone know if > > an Archive 2150S drive (QIC-150) will read QIC-24 tapes? Those drives > > are pretty common, and they're standard SCSI so they don't require > > less common interface hardware. And, I think I have one. :-) > > > > -Dave > -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 6 months

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Apple 2gs boards, what are they?

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>The other is from Apple but I don't know what it is. It has a cable >off the back to a 25 pin connector. On the board is "Apple >Computer 820-0153-A" Over one set of chips it says something >about "sandwich II". I don't know any of the chips on it (never was >great at IDing more than a handful of chips). Could post pics if it >would help. This is an Apple High-Speed SCSI card. Allows you to hook up an external SCSI-1 device to the IIgs. A bit finicky (termination power, and some other gotchas), but works mighty nice when you get it all set up right. I believe it will also work on the IIe as well. See Rubywand's faqs (http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/A2FAQs2CONTENT.html in general, and http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/Csa2HDNSCSI.html for SCSI specifically) for more details... If you have no need of it, I can certainly use it in my IIgs... Rich B.

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Make up your mind soon. (was: Help, I will now buy another VAX 6000-420 in Virginia Beach, I can't possibly take that thing ....

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

The VAX 6000-400 is in Portsmouth VA (Virginia Beach area) and for the most part is still up for grabs. The maximum fee I would want is $24.99 to cover my eBay costs. If I take stuff out first, there will be no charge for the rest. If there is real interest I will leave it at a working system, otherwise I may remove things more thorroughly. But make up your mind soon. I know that there are no disks with it, and I will find out more and let you know. If I don't hear a clear committment, there will be another nice VAX going to into the melting oven. If you have never seen a 6000: it's the size of an American fridge, weighs 800 lb (400 kg), sucks 800 W power, needs 3-phase power or at least 220 V (laundry dryer hookup.) I have instructions for a relatively easy power conversion (just make another plug.) It does not (yet) run NetBSD, but Ultrix 4.4 and 4.5 and may be Ultrix 4.2 and higher. VMS of course. regards -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years, 6 months

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Amiga Question

by lgwalker＠mts.net

I have an A3000 (as well as a 1000 and 2000) and when I use the sysinfo, it displays that I am using Workbench ver. 37.xxx. What does this refer to as compared to 1.3 and 3.1 ? Lawrence Reply to: lgwalker(a)mts.net

24 years, 6 months

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OT: Older inventory programs for home computers

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/31/2001 4:02:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, jpero(a)sympatico.ca writes: << > From: "Lawrence Walker" <lgwalker(a)mts.net> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:22:27 -0600 > Subject: Re: OT: Older inventory programs for home computers > Reply-to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Thanks all for the suggestions. > I've decided to go with a spare IBM 8580 I have. They're built like a tank and > could survive the rigors of a machine shop. Also I don't want to part with a >> Can't go wrong with a PS/2! if anything can live in a bad environment, a PS/2 can do it. I'd change the ESDI for SCSI. controller cards and drives are cheap and plentiful. I can help in that respect... The only other machine that would be better is an IML based 386 slc PS/2. Then you'd have builtin SCSI and reference partition instead. --

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NEXT Color Printer find

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 30, 16:03, Louis Schulman wrote: > With all due respect, I disagree. The term "Centronics", whatever its original meaning, refers to a type of > connector. Looking at the Jameco catalog, for example, the catalog pictures 14, 24, 36 and 50 contact > male and female connectors, all referred to as "Centronics". I have never heard the term "blue ribbon" used > to describe these connectors. > > My understanding is that Centronics was the first to use this type of connector on its parallel printers, so > when it became the standard type connector the name stuck. No, Tony is correct. Just because a name is commonly (mis)used in a particular way, doesn't mean it's correct, especially in catalogues. This discussion has come up before in relation to "DB9" connectors etc. A Centronics connector is a specific size, 36pins. The other sizes (14, 20, 24, 50, etc) are NOT Centronics connectors. The 24-way is sometimes referred to as an IEEE-488 connector. Does that make all the other sizes IEEE-488 connectors too? The common misuse is fairly recent, too. 50-pin conectors in that shape have been around for a long time, as SCSI connectors, as telco connectors, and for datacomms. Only in the last 5-8 years have I seen them referred to as Centronics. > BTW, this type of connector, regardless of the number of pins, when made for ribbon cables, is referred to > by Jameco as "IDC Centronics Connector". So they're misusing the term, that's all. If they'd said "Centronics-style" that would be different. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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classiccmp-digest V1 #819

by rdd＠rddavis.org

Quothe Richard Erlacher: [...] > detail. Where the language used in our society is rapidly heading for the > point at which everyone will only be taught a single syllable, leaving > inflections to communicate whatever little meaning there is, I'd suggest we, This reminds me... Did you ever notice that most thesauri appear to be written for people who apparently favor the use of single syllable words? Finding the most appropriate words in such thesauri is often dang near impossible, since most of the synonyms listed are intended for those with a seventh grade, or lower, vocabulary. It makes me wonder all the more about why increasingly larger sums of money are stolen from us by the government for "education." Have a happy new year! Robert -- Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

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WTB SGI Indy

by macrecycle＠earthlink.net

Anybody got any good suggestions on where to go to get a nice SGI Indy, just for playing around -- preferably cheap? R. P. Bell ARS KX7Q My friends call me "RB" ================= Mac Recycle Project Recycled Macintosh Computers and Services for Educational or Non-Profit Enterprises Email macrecycle(a)earthlink.net

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Xyplex terminal server

by csmith＠amdocs.com

It just occurred to me that I have had a Xyplex terminal server setting in the closet for a while. :) I have no software for it. It's not "classic," being relatively new, but I intent to use it to hook my Unix PC, Kaypro 2, and perhaps some other things up to my home network, so it's not completely off-topic. Does anyone know where I can find something to run it? I will try to get the model number and post it. Right now all I remember is that it's an 8-port (I think) model in a 1U package. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Nomenclature (was: NEXT Color Printer find

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 31, 11:47, Eric Dittman wrote: > There was a recent thread on the linux-kernel mailing list about > changing all references to KB, MB, etc. to the new standard KiB, > MiB, etc. Some people were for the change, since the new names > are unambiguous, while others think it is kind of ridiculous for > a third-party to change the definitions that have been accepted > for years. I'm in the camp that 1KB of RAM is 1024B, and 1MB of > hard drive is 1024*1024B. That's what they've meant for years, > and the hard drive manufacturers playing with specs and getting > the public thinking 1MB=1000*1024B is not a good reason to change. It's a bit silly, really. 'k' is the SI prefix for 'kilo', meaning 1000, and 'K' was deliberately chosen for 2^10 or 1024 to be distinguishable. Pity about 'MB', though. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Cheap Video cookbooks and machines WTD

by philpem＠bigfoot.com

Hi, I'm trying to get a copy of Don Lancaster's "Cheap Video Cookbook" and "Son of Cheap Video" books, which are now out of print. Anyone got a copy of both books they'd care to scan in and upload somewhere or sell to me? What about the "TV Typewriter" article? I'm also after a Synertek SYM-1 (or SY-VIM-1), a MOS KIM-1 and an AIM-65. Anyone want to sell me one of these machines (or donate one to my computer collection :-)? Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)bigfoot.com http://www.philpem.btinternet.co.uk/

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Any AMIGA users?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com [mailto:SUPRDAVE@aol.com] > Decided to pull out my amiga 500 and a PHOENIX hard drive > that fits it. > plugged it all in and the hard drive spins up, but the amiga > still prompts > for a system floppy. can a PC download and create an amiga > system disk? i Short answer: No. ;) Long answer: The amiga floppy format is 880k. The standard peesee drive/controller setup won't do it. You may be in luck if you have a catweasel controller or a compati-card. Otherwise, you can probably write them with a macintosh. You can also possibly do it with some unix machines, or if you have a VAX with 3.5" floppy, or alpha... I was going to try with my sparc IPC, myself. On another note, I have a set of disks that will boot my amiga 1000. Kickstart and OS 1.2 (I think?). I don't know whether OS 1.2 will work on your 500, nor have I any idea whether the OS you get absolutely must be matched to the kickstart version (in ROM on the 500...) I'd be willing to give it a try anyway, though, if you can't find something that's more of a "sure bet." > want to see what this computer is capable of. The only fully working '500 I've seen was very impressive in context. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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WD1003A-SCS board

by jdonogh1＠prodigy.net

Does anybody have a manual with jumper settings for this? It's a Western Digital SCSI-to-MFM board. Can't seem to get it to work. - but the LED stays on dimly(?)

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Anyone have a Rodime RO3065 Drive?

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, I am looking for a Rodime RO3065 3-1/2" 53Mbyte MFM Harddrive. Anyone have a spare they are willing to part with? Thanks, Ram -- ,,,, /'^'\ ( o o ) -oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------- | Ram Meenakshisundaram | | Senior Software Engineer | | OpenLink Financial Inc | | .oooO Phone: (516) 227-6600 x267 | | ( ) Oooo. Email: rmeenaks(a)olf.com | ---\ (----( )-------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/

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Help, I will now buy another VAX 6000-420 in Virginia Beach, I can't possibly take that thing ....

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Oh my oh my, I just won another VAX 6000-420 for 24 bucks and 99 cents on eBay. Another 6400 in my fleet. I just love these machines. They are handsome decently powerful not oversized, modest in power consumption and noise emission (compared to the 11/780). Very friendly to operate (compared to 11/750, 780 and pretty much everything before. It's so invaluable to have a self test LED at every board so you know exactly whats wrong if things don't work.) Of course these are real machines not PC-lookalikes. But that's what it's all about! :-) But I can never justify to transport that machine from Virginia Beach to Indianapolis and frankly I have no room for it. I hope that Mr. Seller will let me take a virtual peek inside and if theres anything I don't have or that I need, I will take some off. I can still use CPUs (to build my second 6000-460, KFSMA, anything peripheral except CIBCA and DEBNT (have enough of those). BTW, at some point not too far ahead, I will give that second 6000-460 away (if and when I get my 6000-660). Another thing is I will trade a whole setup with 6460, 6520, HSC90, SA600 cabinet, TU81+ and Dataproducts printer and may be add one PDP-8/A as a prize for the one who brings me a nice 11/785 with UNIBUS extension cabinet. In that regard I also trade a TU78 in the style of the 80s against a TU78 with the blue head-panel that fits the 11/780. So, now you know. I've always stuff cooking until I retire >from my hardware ackquisition frenzie. after I have my 11/785 setup. If you live close to Virginia Beach, or you plan on passing by there, let me know. regards, -Gunther PS: also remember, there are a couple of 8650s waiting for a home. I would love to take one but I can't build my whole garage into a computerroom, and I can't run the machine as a furnace (I have gas heat and want to keep it that way :-). But remember, the 8650 are very elegant machines, if you can handle that caliber. Gunther Schadow wrote: > Hi, > > there are 23 minutes to go on an ebay auction > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1313054232 > > for a VAX 6420. I already have 3 such cabinets in my house > and I can impossibly take one let alone the shipping. I will > only have it checked out for parts. It's dirt cheap. I am > always looking for some interesting stuff and this one might > just have some. Most of the heavy and hard to get stuff I > will leave. You should have a running machine. Outbid me now > if you can take the whole machine. > > regards > -Gunther > -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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KWANZA ???

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: gwynp(a)artware.qc.ca [mailto:gwynp@artware.qc.ca] > ObClassicmp : Santa gave me an abacus! While this particular one was > probably manufactured recently, anything this ancient must be > classic :) Me too. :) Mine has what appear to be ceramic beads, and a nice light red-ish (not quite cherry) wood frame. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Connectors (was: NEXT Color Printer find

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

That is correct. -Dave On December 31, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: > I could have sworn that the regular single-pair telephone connector is > RJ11, and the two-pair/two-line one is RJ14. > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Dave McGuire wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:55:47 -0500 > > From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> > > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > Subject: Re: Connectors (was: NEXT Color Printer find > > > > On December 30, Chris wrote: > > > >Would they call common network connectors "8 pin RJ-11"? > > > >Or would they call them "8 pin telephone connectors"? > > > > > > Neither, 8 pin RJ's are an RJ-45 (11 is a 4 pin, comes in either standard > > > or handset sizes... can also have just 2 pins for "cheap" cords... 12 is > > > a 6 pin, same physical size as a standard RJ-11) > > > > It's important to note that the RJ designations specify not only the > > connector type, but the pinout. > > > > -Dave > > > > -- > > Dave McGuire > > St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf > > > > -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Try it!!!! (Was - Re: One More PCB Dishwasher Question)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Franchuk [mailto:bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca] > While you hear a lot about 'classic' common old CPU's -- apple, radio > shack, > commodore do people find any homebrewed computers did that > all stop when > the S-100 bus came out? Well, I think I may have mentioned this earlier, but my Heath H8 has a wire-wrapped (nearly obviously home-brewed) daughterboard added on to the CPU card. The main CPU used to be 8080, but the daughterboard holds a Z80 and a couple other things. It seems to work. That's the closest thing I've seen. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Any interest in 5.25 floppy drives or small scsi drives?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/29/2001 11:36:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, gehrich(a)tampabay.rr.com writes: << At 10:17 PM 12/29/01 -0500, you wrote: >I've got a number of IBM SCSI drives from 80-200 meg that work just fine as >well as a whole bunch of 5.25 floppy drives from different manufacturers in >both 360k and 1.2m capacities and I hate to just toss the stuff. Anybody have >a need for them? I might be interested in them. What do you have and how much to 34611 Are they blank, used, with/without software? Gene >> To answer this question, I decided to post it. The 100-200m SCSI drives are almost all IBM brand from PS/2 models running OS/2. There are some others laying around that work, but not sure of anything else about them. Everything's used of course. -- Kwanzaa is NOT a real holiday.

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test, ignore

by mnadeau＠editservices.com

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Ultrix 4.4 and VaxStation 3100

by kees.stravers＠iae.nl

On 2001-12-31 classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org said >> > Did Ultrix 4.4 Run on Vaxstation 3100's... I have here a VAXstation M38 which has Ultrix 4.5 running on it, the last available version. Ultrix only supports the older VAXstations. The SPX card is not supported, but the GPX is, so I'm seeing the GUI on the big monitor. Ultrix 4.5 is not Y2K compatible, but there are fixes. >> > I'd love to have one disk with Ultrix and another with VMS on >> >it. >> So say we all.... From a more-than-casual search of usenet >>archives and the web, I'd have to call Ultrix the Holy Grail of >>Vaxstations. If there is such a creature, and anyone posesses it, >>they neither admit it nor share it. The problem is that Ultrix/VAX is still copyrighted and can not be freely redistributed like Ultrix/PDP can, so sharing Ultrix/VAX is still a problem. >I think the main question is who could get Compaq to release the >license for non-commercial use. This would require both them and >Caldera (who owns the former-AT&T part of the license. Fred van Kempen, who revived the PDP-11 version of Ultrix and got a kind of shareware licence for it, is working on getting Ultrix/VAX licenced this way too, but that will take some time, as it is hard to find the right people who can decide on this matter. You can download the revived Ultrix-11 3.1 from www.tuhs.org, once you agree to the ancient unix licence as explained there. You should subscribe to the tuhs (The Unix Heritage Society) mailing list for news on any developments. Kees -- kees.stravers(a)iae.nl http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/ http://vaxarchive.sevensages.org http://vaxarchive.khubla.com Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Registered

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Apple 2gs boards, what are they?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/30/2001 10:27:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, owad(a)applefritter.com writes: << >There others I'm not sure what they are. The first is labeled as >"Quickie Controller" "Vitesse Inc." "P/N 121489" There is a cable >that goes to one of those round plugs like the the serial and printer >plugs on the IIgs. What's the official name of those connectors? That's the controller card for Vitesse's Quickie Hand Scanner. The connector is a mini Din-8. >> ADB cables, or the same as Svideo?

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Seagate ST32550N vs Quantum XP32150 - which is better?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

A buddy of mine needs a couple of 2Gb 1" SCSI drives. I have both Quantum XP32150s and ST32550Ns available. Are these drives essentially equivalent, or is one better than the other? -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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International Extensions

by vze2mnvr＠verizon.net

All right, I've got one for the international users ... Can anyone fill in or add to any of the international extensions you sometimes see on URL's ? The ones I'm aware of ( but still have some blanks in ) so far are ... .ca - Canada .ch - .cn - .de - Germany .es - Spain .fm - .fr - France .ge - Georgia, former USSR .hk - Hong Kong ??? .is - Iceland .it - Italy .jp - Japan .kr - Korea .nl - Netherlands .nu - .pl - Poland ??? .ru - Rumania ??? .se - Sweden .uk - Great Britain

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