- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

This is funny (ebay)

by fernande＠internet1.net

SCSI to serial cable :-) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004730888 Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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Free books in Irvine, CA - mostly Apple IIc/e

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

Pick-up or pay shipping-all books, no software: 1. Multiscribe for Apple IIe/IIc 2. Multiscribe Picture Manager 3. Multiscribe Fontpak 4. Claris Appleworks 5. -- Getting Started 6. -- Quick Reference Card 7. -- Tutorial 8. -- Reference 9. 26 BASIC programs for your micro-Derrick Daines 1982 10. Tandy 1000 MS-DOS Reference 11. Practical Guide to Tandy 1000EX 12. Practical Guide to Tandy 1000TX 13. Apple II Appleworks Tutorial 14. Apple IIc Scribe User's Manual 15. Apple IIc Imagewriter User's Manual __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

24 years, 3 months

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Sokolov Compression & gzcompat

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 14, Doc wrote: > Speaking of, I've sort of blindly assumed that "cab kit" is "cabinet > connector kit" and refers to everything from the adapter board to the > bulkhead plate and connector. Is that more-or-less accurate? Yup. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 3 months

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SPARCBook2 battery wanted

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Anyone happen to have a spare battery for a SPARCBook2? My newest toy runs fine on the power adapter, but it's not as much fun as it could be. I'm interested even if it doesn't hold a charge-- new cells aren't that hard to install. Bob

24 years, 3 months

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info on IBM 4-slot PCMCIA controller

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

So far, all I've found is two or three references to it on IBM's site. Nothing comes up for the part number 40G1041. At least, I think it's the part number-- it looks like all the other part numbers. Pretty sure it's on topic too, at least the 82365s on the back are dated '92. Anyone know what the settings are? It's got a 4-position DIP switch for `SLOT ADDR, `IRQ', and `ROM ADDR', and also a slide-switch marked `BLK1 BLK0'. I wonder what that does. I hope I can put this thing to use--it's really pretty nice, at least to look at. It's got little solenoids to physically lock the cards in the slot. Only trouble (aside from not knowing what it's set for) is that it's just a hair too wide to fit into the two computers I've tried it in so far. Hope I can find something to put it in! Bob

24 years, 3 months

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Netscape Mail, was Re: HTML in EMAIL

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

lessee, I use OutlookExpress at times, with the right settings it's pretty solid and can be made virus proof! Hint, disable VBSscripting! Why anyone would link a programming language to email is beyond me. Disabling COMx and ActiveX controls is easy enough. There is no excuse for HTML unless someone set a system profile removing those controls >from reach, in that case us you own system not the companies. Propagating bugs like Loveletter is an example of user ignorance. I also like RFDmail, an old shareware Win3.1 program that runs fine under Win/nt4. It's even better as it's HTML dumb, virus proof and generally knows little of mime types that are not clear text. Nyetscrap communicator is fairly nice and complete. Plenty setable. My prefered version is communicator4.75, browser 4.08. Both downloadable free last I looked. Then there are the longer list of freeware mailers. Theres no excuse for living with crud. There is also no excuse for not knowing how to "drive" what you have. Allison

24 years, 3 months

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VCF on MediaTelevision

by mhstein＠canada.com

It just aired tonight; cool! I have some 300bd modems that are bigger than yours, nyah, nyah! Freedom Fighters? Revolutionaries? Wow! And I thought we were just weirdos & nerds... Nice car beside the loading dock; yours, Sellam? Maybe the next time we take up a collection it should be for you. mike ---------Original Message------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 18:12:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)vintage.org> Subject: VCF on MediaTelevision If any of you get MediaTelevision (a Canadian program) you can see a segment on the VCF sometime this week. There's a blurb on the segment on their website: http://www.mediatv.net/ After the Flash intro, there's a link called "VINTAGE COMPUTER" you can click on. I'm getting a copy of the taped segment sent to me. - -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival

24 years, 3 months

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RT-11 and Supnik emulator

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I have the rt4 and rt53 disks and the emulator... > > RL, 4 units > unit 0, 2621KW, attached to rtv4_rk.dsk, write enabled, RL01 > unit 1, 2621KW, not attached, write enabled, autosize > unit 2, 2621KW, not attached, write enabled, autosize > unit 3, 2621KW, not attached, write enabled, autosize > sim> boot rl0 > > ?BOOT-U- I/O error > > > HALT instruction, PC: 000724 (BR 722) > sim> > > What is the proper incantation to boot this? What is your host OS/architecture? What version of the emulator are you running. Basically you're doing the correct thing to boot. Zane

24 years, 3 months

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NetBSD Boot tape for MVII

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Doc Shipley <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> > I think the DEQNA board is dead, even before I started moving things Not unlikely. >around on the QBus. (Yes, there'll be Yet Another "Broke My QBus" Post) >I haven't ever been able to get it even to light up the AUI terminator. Ok, Check fuses, there are two if memory serves, one on patch pannel cable to the board (a visible fuse holder!), the other is on the board. Even a dead board will power the AUI though that's about all. FYI: there is a lineup for what order the DEQNA(DELQA) and TK50 controllers must go on the bus relative to the other IO cards. > I have NetBSD running on the VS4000/60 and a TK50Z-GA that works. I >can tar to /dev/rst0 and then retrieve the archive all day long. When >my boot tape wouldn't boot on the MV, I wondered if its TK50 is toast, >so I've been trying to boot the 4000 to test the tape. > All the sources say to: The Drive in the -GA will be the same as the one in the MV so you can swap it in. Do make sure the TK50 controller has the dip switches set right as some were easily bumped on install. > Trying it on the MVII gets essentially the same results. No >meaningful error message, just the HALT instruction. MVII has a very limited console boot and diagnostic compared to later models so it's not very talkative. Allison

24 years, 3 months

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RT-11 and Supnik emulator

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

I have the rt4 and rt53 disks and the emulator... RL, 4 units unit 0, 2621KW, attached to rtv4_rk.dsk, write enabled, RL01 unit 1, 2621KW, not attached, write enabled, autosize unit 2, 2621KW, not attached, write enabled, autosize unit 3, 2621KW, not attached, write enabled, autosize sim> boot rl0 ?BOOT-U- I/O error HALT instruction, PC: 000724 (BR 722) sim> What is the proper incantation to boot this? :^) thanks!

24 years, 3 months

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ZX-TEAM meeting and Webcam

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Here's a last-minute note to remind my fellow ZX81 enthusiasts that the 6th annual ZX-TEAM meeting in Dietges, near Fulda, Germany, is to be held this weekend. Admission is free. Accommodations are available at the meeting place for about US $50 per person *for the whole weekend,* including bed and meals (really, really good meals, too) from Friday night through Sunday morning. Trust me, it's worth the trip just for the bockwurst and potato salad ;>) (Sellam, why can't you get us a deal like this for VCF/VCF East???) Contact Peter Liebert-Adelt at peter(a)zx81.de for reservations. For those who can't attend but want to check out the meeting, the ZX-TEAM Webcam and chat should be online from 2100 - 2300 GMT this Friday and Saturday if the phone line at the meeting place is up to the task. To check out last year's meeting, go to: http://home.t-online.de/home/p.liebert/meet_f_e.htm Keep on ZXin'! Glen 0/0

24 years, 3 months

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DEC3000/300X memory?

by ken＠seefried.com

From: Roger Merchberger <zmerch(a)30below.com> >Rumor has it that Zane H. Healy may have mentioned these words: >>> Does anyone know a good, inexpensive source for the proprietary 32MB >>> DEC3000/300 memory SIMMS. >> >>Are they in fact proprietary? I thought that it used the same as a >>DEC3000/300LX. With the 300LX, if I remember correctly, all you need is >>72-pin True Parity SIMMs. > >AFAIK, it's standard parity memory as well... > Well...proprietary might be too strong a word, but no, regular 32MB parity memory does not work in a 3000/300. The 32MB SIMMs have an extra resistor on them that the machine uses to detect that they are different. See http://www.bucks.edu/alpha-osf-managers/Jul1998-59.html, among others (google if you need more). I've also got dozen or so regular 32MB true parity SIMMs out of PeeCees that I've verified don't work... Now...any old 70ns, true parity 8MB SIMMs will work, and I've got 8 of those in their already. Oh, yeah...FYI...the 3000/300 takes 8MB or 32MB memory only. Ken

24 years, 3 months

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DEC3000/300X memory?

by ken＠seefried.com

Does anyone know a good, inexpensive source for the proprietary 32MB DEC3000/300 memory SIMMS. I'd like to give my 3000 (300X in a rackmount kit) some longer legs. Ken

24 years, 3 months

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Heads up... free MVII/PDP-11 on eBay UK

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Alistair (who wonders if he needs to buy a bigger car ... ) Honestly, if it won't take a BA23, the answer is a definite yes :-) Antonio (who just seems to have been saved a trip:-) )

24 years, 3 months

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Atari stuff wanted.

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

I'm looking for atari stuff, 800 xl or better, 1050 disk drive, etc... anyone have any they'd be interested in parting with for a good / appreciate home?

24 years, 3 months

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by mythtech＠mac.com

> Chris , I'm sorry, you're totally wrong. The 26 pin connector is for an >Apple Audio Vision monitor. No F--king Dongle. I said a number of times, I have NOT used the DOS card that works with the 630/6100... and that is the card in question. But I CAN tell you that EVERY OTHER dos card Apple made, needs a video dongle... and they ALL connect via a DB-26 connector on the back of the DOS card... which is exactly what the person described on the back of their DOS card. Now, it is quite possible that Apple put an AppleVision port on the 630/6100 DOS card, why, I would have NO idea, since the 630 can't use an applevision monitor... but maybe they did. HOWEVER, on the back of the 6100... is an HDI-45 video port... THAT is an AppleVision video port. That is NOT the same thing as the DB-26 on the DOS cards. Totally different port, totally different function. BUT... I have heard that you do not need a video dongle with the 630/6100 DOS card... I just can't confirm it one way or the other... and again, since they are describing EXACTLY what will happen to a Quadra 610 Houdini DOS card if the dongle is not connected... I felt it was a good guess that they might in fact need one. Now I am REALLY going to have to get 630/6100 DOS card... just so I can figure out once and for all if it needs a video dongle (or do you prefer the term... video loopback connector) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 3 months

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Netscape Mail, was Re: HTML in EMAIL

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > Is there any reason why I should switch away from PINE on a TELNET > session? Only if you like Elm better. :) Of course, there's the problem that more and more people can't telnet into their mail host. At which point, you could still use pine -- or pc pine if you insist on using windows -- and just make it use pop. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 3 months

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by Marion.Bates＠dartmouth.edu

Aha! The plot thickens. Reply from the previous owner: ------------ > This [cable] seems to be missing! Do > you think perhaps it is hiding somewhere in your garage? > I think I must have it somewhere--I can picture what you're talking about. Will look when I get back from my trip. ------------ Sounds like this may be the answer to my problems. :) If/when she finds it and I install it, I'll send a re: to the list. Thanks again, everyone! -- MB

24 years, 3 months

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Heads up... free MVII/PDP-11 on eBay UK

by AlistairMacDonald＠economist.com

=== andyh(a)andyh-rayleigh.freeserve.co.uk 14/03/2002 15:43:03 === >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1338982069 >> Apparently, this chap has a free PDP11 & MicroVax-II going to >> a good home... >> >The PDP-11/73 will be taking a car journey here next week ... I think - but >am not sure - that the Vax is also spoken for. It is 8-) Alistair (who wonders if he needs to buy a bigger car ... )

24 years, 3 months

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Suptnik and RT-11

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Hi, All What is RT-11 most like? Will it run on Bob Suptnik's emulator?

24 years, 3 months

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DEC3000/300X memory?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Does anyone know a good, inexpensive source for the proprietary 32MB > DEC3000/300 memory SIMMS. I'd like to give my 3000 (300X in a rackmount > kit) some longer legs. > > Ken Are they in fact proprietary? I thought that it used the same as a DEC3000/300LX. With the 300LX, if I remember correctly, all you need is 72-pin True Parity SIMMs. Zane

24 years, 3 months

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Heads up... free MVII/PDP-11 on eBay UK

by timwa＠snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

Hi all, At times like this, I wish I had a car. Of course, if I did I'd need to learn to drive it, so it's a bit of a moot point... Given that, the following is no use to me but someone else in the UK may like to know about the following auction... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1338982069 Apparently, this chap has a free PDP11 & MicroVax-II going to a good home... Cheers, Tim. -- Tim Walls at home in Croydon - Reply to tim(a)snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

24 years, 3 months

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Wow, ok. She had me convinced that it "always worked" in this >configuration, but that's clearly not true. She must've forgotten all >about the Mega-Dongle. Well... there is a chance she is right. If this was the "Houdini" card that worked with the 610 (or the Reply branded version)... of if this was the 7" or 12" 586 or Pentium cards that work with MANY of the PCI powermacs... then I could speak with much more certainty. BUT... I have never personally worked with (nor own) the card that works with the 630 and 6100. I have heard rumor that they in fact do not need a dongle, but the problem you are describing, fits with what will happen on a 610 if the dongle isn't present... so that makes me think that you DO in fact need a dongle for the 630/6100 card. Anyone have one of those cards they want to give me? (hopefully including the dongle if it is needed). It would round out my DOS card collection nicely. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 3 months

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HPIB ISA cards

by jwbirdsa＠picarefy.com

Who was looking for HP-IB cards? I found three genuine HP 82335 cards (8-bit ISA) this morning. Condition unknown but they're almost mint out of the box visually. Available to whoever wants them for postage ($3.50 each in the US). --James B.

24 years, 3 months

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Commodore tape drive

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

I have a commodore tape drive from a Vic 20, it may also work with a C= 64 it's available for postage if anyone is interested, I need to know if there's interest in the tape drive by this Friday, the 15th, otherwise it's off to goodwill for it.

24 years, 3 months

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Interesting places in Chicago area?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

IIT is around 33rd Street, near the White Sox ball park; MSI is at 57th street, 3 miles to the south and just east of the University of Chicago (8 hundreds, e.g. 32nd Street to 40th Street, is a mile) The MSI is about 2 miles _east_ of Michigan Ave. Best way to get there is by Lake Shore Drive. You can get to IIT from the Dan Ryan Expressway. Neither area is that safe at night. During the day, the IIT campus itself is OK, but the area around it has a number of housing projects. The area north and west of the University of Chicago/MSI is a bit dicey, also. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Dan Wright [mailto:dtwright@uiuc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:48 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Interesting places in Chicago area? Russ Blakeman said: <snip> > > On the BW map you'll see where Ill Inst of tech is (known as IIT) - that's > the general area where MSI is at - it should be just east of IIT on 55th. Of > course there are other ways too, like going downtown when you dome into the > city on I-290 then going south on Michigan Ave (less of "the hood" to to go > thru, a lot longer trip) Yeah...but don't go visit IIT. seriously. the museum is on the museum campus by the lake, which is pretty safe and nice, but you REALLY don't want to go much west of there, especially if you're not from the area... <snip>

24 years, 3 months

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by mythtech＠mac.com

>The 26 pin connector is for an Apple AV monitor. Kind of like the >Commodore 1084S, only with Apples usual proprietory greed it has a >different connector. Cant remember the name but it is possibly HDI-26 or >maybe HDI-45. Most of the AV Power Macs also had another card which >would take the Apple 15 pin monitor as well as having 4 S-Video ports. > > With the AudioVision monitor this would allow you to use 2 monitors at the >same time, as well as sound systems perhaps. No I've never tried it. You are describing a different thing that I was talking about. I was referencing the DB 26 on the back of the DOS card. You are talking about the video connectors on the Mac itself. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 3 months

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Interesting places in Chicago area?

by g＠kurico.com

I'll be in the Chicago metro area later this week. Any interesting places to visit (from a classiccmp perspective that is)? George

24 years, 3 months

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1101 RAM Chips Needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 13, Bill Richman wrote: > As previously posted, I recently finished building a Mark-8 computer > (8008-based). It works great - in fact, I just added an EPROM board so I > can run demo programs and eventually bootstrap from paper tape last night. > The problem is, I only have 256 bytes of RAM. I would like to find 3 more > banks (24 chips) worth of 1101 RAM chips. If anyone has any they'd like > to trade for a brand new Harris 1802 microprocessor (build your own ELF!) > or other chips, or cash, please let me know. Hey! Let's see some pics of that Mark-8! -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 3 months

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OT: name that computer

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 10, Chad Fernandez wrote: > Not really. "I Dream of Genie" was a popular show way back when. I > used to watch it in reruns in the afternoon when I was a kid in the > 80's. Me too. Mmmm, Barbara Eden. She runs around in that little skimpy outfit calling that guy "Master"...what do YOU think is going on there? ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 3 months

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by mythtech＠mac.com

>The video dongle looks like a simple cable, but it must have some sort of >electronic switch in it as well. >It switches the monitor between the PCs video output and the Mac's video >output. > >As a workaround, however, I remember that you CAN plug in two monitors >simultaneously -- one that shows >what is going on on the PC and another, the Mac... I don't think there is a switch in the cable, but rather I think it loops some signals back to the PC card, which causes the switch over. And yes, you can plug two monitors in, and run both at the same time... BUT... you still need the dongle to do that... as the dongle is the only way to get the video OFF the older DOS cards. If you want to run two monitors, you just don't plug the loopback portion into the Mac's video. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 3 months

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Grid 1520 LT Password

by lgwalker＠mts.net

I finally got my Grid 1520 , which was locked Reply to: lgwalker(a)mts.net Love of the Goddess makes the poet go mad he goes to his death and in death is made wise. Robert Graves

24 years, 3 months

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Tatung Einstein disks

by einy＠coxa.fsnet.co.uk

Downloads for the tatung einstein tc01 and other info at"http://members.lycos.co.uk/albertstc01"

24 years, 3 months

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Question: There is a three-row, 26-pin port on the PC card, for some >external device to plug in to. What is this? Looking over the fact that it always hangs at the same place... I think what is happening is, it IS booted into the PC... only that 26pin connector is for the video dongle, and without it, you just aren't seeing the PC screen. There should be a cable that plugs into that port. That cable will then have an RGB video connector to go to a monitor, an RGB video connector to go to the Mac's video out port, and a PC Joy stick port. It looks like the card you have is just like all the others... without that dongle, the card is useless. FINDING a dongle is next to impossible without getting a whole new card. Some day I will have to sit down and pinout one of my Dongles, so that I can at least make available a wiring diagram for others to make new ones. >Awesome, thanks for the link! Why is the corresponding Apple FTP site's >folder empty then? Grrr. Made me think they'd pulled their whole software >archive except for patches. Apple reorganized their software archives a while back... and they made a total mess of things. Some stuff is located in odd places, some stuff was moved but links not updated... ugh... its a mess for anything in the old discontinued software. >One thing I noticed, dunno if it's at all relevant, but when I try to >click the popup menu for "Sharing" (this is in the PC Setup panel) it >gives me the following error message: "No PC drive letters available. Make >sure that "MACSHARE" has been started on the PC and "LASTDRIVE" is set to >an appropriate value in your "CONFIG.SYS"." I assume this is for file >sharing Mac data to the PC side, so at the moment I don't need to care >about that problem...right? Yeah, this is only for hosting a shared folder between the Mac and PC. It is a VERY nice feature. Basically, you assign a folder on the Mac side, and that becomes a drive letter on the PC side... so anything in that folder is read/write accessable from both worlds. But it needs a driver installed on the PC before you can configure it. That driver is part of the PC half of the installer software (I'm not sure it is available on Apple's web site... if not, let me know, I'll send you an image of one of my disks... although, you SHOULD be able to use the PC drivers that come with the 1.6.4 version of the PC Setup software, and those I believe are on Apple's site). I would expect you to see the error you are seeing right now, as you can't assign a drive letter until AFTER the PC is up and running properly, and the driver is installed. I would check with the person that gave you the mac, see if they still have the video dongle. If they kept the old monitor, they may have left it connected to the monitor (I have seen that done a few times... people don't realize the dongle goes to the computer, they figure it is part of the monitor and try to keep it). If you can't find one, let me know... maybe I can pinout one of mine so you can build a new one (anyone have a suggestion on the best way to pinout an odd cable? Or am I just stuck using a continuity tester and going from pin to pin looking to see what connects where?) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 3 months

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Free: older hardware, mainly PC

by fernande＠internet1.net

Hello, This is what I still have left. You pay shipping. Please reply off list. -IBM 68X3815 MFM hard drive controller from AT with original cables -various mfm cables -IBM PC Network Baseband Adpater/A (new in the box, Microchannel) -Microchannel 4 port serial board (uses 16450 uart chips, but they are replaceable, with cable) -Intel 386dx-33 with glued on heatsink -386dx compatible or upgrade chip, maybe Cyrix, I glued the heatsink on, can't tell exactly what it is anymore :-) -IBM keyboard cable for PC or XT, I think, maybe AT. It's not from a Model M -db25 to db9 convertor -1/2 height faceplate for Seagate ST225 -IBM PC (5150) full height block off plate for unused second drive bay -Fellows EMI glare shield for 14" to 15" monitor -2 internal narrow scsi cable with external centronics connector (ask for measurements) -long 5 device narrow scsi cable (generic) -3 two device narrow scsi cables -1 two foot single device narrow scsi cable (folded for low cross section) -several vary short narrow scsi cables, some with connectors like you would find on a card Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

24 years, 3 months

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HPIB ISA cards

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 14, jwbirdsa(a)picarefy.com wrote: > Who was looking for HP-IB cards? I found three genuine HP 82335 cards > (8-bit ISA) this morning. Condition unknown but they're almost mint out > of the box visually. Available to whoever wants them for postage ($3.50 > each in the US). Does anyone have programming info for these? If so, I'm interested in one or two...might wanna try to write a NetBSD device driver for them. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 3 months

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Suptnik and RT-11

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Bob Shannon <bshannon(a)tiac.net> >IMHO, CP/M is unquestionably a direct rip-off of RT-11. Killdal did say that DEC OSs (TOPS, OS8 and RT11) were the inspiration. However, one place where CP/M was not like RT-11 was the file system as CP/M did dynamic allocation with fragmentation where RT-11 does not support fragmented files. All RT-11 files (OS8 too) are contigious. In that respect RT-11 file system is most identical to NS* DOS but the NS* dos command structure and IO are must unlike RT-11. Internally RT-11 and CP/M are very dissimilar save for some underlying concepts such as an overlayable monitor, a modular resident IO subsystem and file handler. Allison

24 years, 3 months

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One can only hope

by lists＠subatomix.com

One of my previous employers builds industrial security and facility management systems. A friend from the company told me the other day that a customer's site (a jail) has some old PDP-11 equipment that they will likely no longer need when their new system is installed. The friend said that the jail people said there was a 11/70 there, but he wasn't certain that they were certain. If I'm lucky, I may get to do some, um, contract work removing the old PDP-11. I'm sure I could quote them a very reasonable rate. -- Jeffrey Sharp The email address lists(a)subatomix.com is for mailing list traffic. Please send off-list mail to roach jay ess ess at wasp subatomix beetle dot com. You may need to remove some bugs first.

24 years, 3 months

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by Marion.Bates＠dartmouth.edu

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24 years, 3 months

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VCF on MediaTelevision

by vcf＠vintage.org

If any of you get MediaTelevision (a Canadian program) you can see a segment on the VCF sometime this week. There's a blurb on the segment on their website: http://www.mediatv.net/ After the Flash intro, there's a link called "VINTAGE COMPUTER" you can click on. I'm getting a copy of the taped segment sent to me. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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1A2 phone system

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I may be wrong but I thought that it had to be N+1. Joe At 02:46 PM 3/13/02 -0600, Mike wrote: > >... > >Which were (and are) trivially circumvented by flashing the switchhook >the n times, where n is the digit you wanted to dial, and pausing a >second or two in between each digit. > >--Mike >

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9915A

by roosmcd＠dds.nl

Hello, > Nice find! I have a couple of these and ONE keyboard. It took me four > years of serious searching to find it! About two months ago I noticed a complete HP-85 (tapes, manuals and a 19" rack with HP-IB equipment) at a local industial recycling facility and told this to a friend of mine. He immediately wanted to buy this, but when I asked, it was already sold... So this weekend I was at a HAM market and saw some manuals with HP-85 printed on them and underneath was the 9915a, which I didn't recognize at the moment. I talked a bit to the guy selling it and got it for EUR 20 (about $20), which I hope is a good price. > AFIK this is the only keyboard around. They are EXTREMELY rare! Am I correct in thinking that with the keyboard I can use the 9915A as a HP- 85? Or is the keyboard just a row of digital inputs which can be read out by a basic program? Can I do anything usefull with a HPIB terminal? Somebody on the sunrescue list mailed me this, but then I've tried a terminal with the serial card and that didn't work.. > The tape approach is the easiest to use EXCEPT just about all the 9915 and HP > 85 tape drive rollers have gone soft with age. Aha, I also haven't gotten any tapes... Are these still obtainable somewhere? > I've made a schematic of it. I'll try to find it but I'm not promising that > I'll be able to. The "keyboard" connector is also used to output some > status and control signals so be carefull if you start experimenting with > it. I've been looking for a long time but I've only been able to find a > couple of manuals for the 9915 and they're not very helpfull. Those schematics would be nice if you found them, I haven't tried hooking up anything to the keyboard ports yet in fear of breaking something. The manuals I have are: HP-85 Owner's manual and programming guide (2x) Printer/plotter owner's manual I/O programming guide HPIB installation and theory of operation manual HPIB peripheral installation instructions registration and warranty cards :) regards, Michiel

24 years, 3 months

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What would a 20th Anniversary pdp11/93 be worth?

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

Pictures, please... Megan

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NetBSD Boot tape for MVII

by kees.stravers＠iae.nl

On 2002-03-13 classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org said to kees.stravers(a)iae.nl >Has anybody actually gotten a NetBSD boot tape to work? >Doc There is an image of a bootable tape of NetBSD 1.4.3 which works well. It is in ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.4.3/vax/installation/ The install docs in the vax directory explain its use. Kees. -- kees.stravers(a)iae.nl My site about the DEC VAX computer Geldrop, The Netherlands http://www.vaxarchive.org http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/ Member of Insomniacs Anonymous Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Registered

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by kapteynr＠cboe.com

Yes, that IS the answer. The video dongle looks like a simple cable, but it must have some sort of electronic switch in it as well. It switches the monitor between the PCs video output and the Mac's video output. As a workaround, however, I remember that you CAN plug in two monitors simultaneously -- one that shows what is going on on the PC and another, the Mac... It is actually pretty cool -- just requires lots of desk space ... > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris [SMTP:mythtech@mac.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:42 PM > To: Classic Computer > Subject: Re: Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS > > >Question: There is a three-row, 26-pin port on the PC card, for some > >external device to plug in to. What is this? > > Looking over the fact that it always hangs at the same place... I think > what is happening is, it IS booted into the PC... only that 26pin > connector is for the video dongle, and without it, you just aren't seeing > the PC screen. > > There should be a cable that plugs into that port. That cable will then > have an RGB video connector to go to a monitor, an RGB video connector to > go to the Mac's video out port, and a PC Joy stick port. > > It looks like the card you have is just like all the others... without > that dongle, the card is useless. FINDING a dongle is next to impossible > without getting a whole new card. Some day I will have to sit down and > pinout one of my Dongles, so that I can at least make available a wiring > diagram for others to make new ones. > > >Awesome, thanks for the link! Why is the corresponding Apple FTP site's > >folder empty then? Grrr. Made me think they'd pulled their whole software > > >archive except for patches. > > Apple reorganized their software archives a while back... and they made a > total mess of things. Some stuff is located in odd places, some stuff was > moved but links not updated... ugh... its a mess for anything in the old > discontinued software. > > >One thing I noticed, dunno if it's at all relevant, but when I try to > >click the popup menu for "Sharing" (this is in the PC Setup panel) it > >gives me the following error message: "No PC drive letters available. > Make > >sure that "MACSHARE" has been started on the PC and "LASTDRIVE" is set to > > >an appropriate value in your "CONFIG.SYS"." I assume this is for file > >sharing Mac data to the PC side, so at the moment I don't need to care > >about that problem...right? > > Yeah, this is only for hosting a shared folder between the Mac and PC. It > is a VERY nice feature. Basically, you assign a folder on the Mac side, > and that becomes a drive letter on the PC side... so anything in that > folder is read/write accessable from both worlds. But it needs a driver > installed on the PC before you can configure it. That driver is part of > the PC half of the installer software (I'm not sure it is available on > Apple's web site... if not, let me know, I'll send you an image of one of > my disks... although, you SHOULD be able to use the PC drivers that come > with the 1.6.4 version of the PC Setup software, and those I believe are > on Apple's site). > > I would expect you to see the error you are seeing right now, as you > can't assign a drive letter until AFTER the PC is up and running > properly, and the driver is installed. > > > I would check with the person that gave you the mac, see if they still > have the video dongle. If they kept the old monitor, they may have left > it connected to the monitor (I have seen that done a few times... people > don't realize the dongle goes to the computer, they figure it is part of > the monitor and try to keep it). If you can't find one, let me know... > maybe I can pinout one of mine so you can build a new one (anyone have a > suggestion on the best way to pinout an odd cable? Or am I just stuck > using a continuity tester and going from pin to pin looking to see what > connects where?) > > -chris > > <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 13, Marion Bates wrote: > --- Chris and Martin K?ser both wrote: > There should be a cable that plugs into that port. That cable will then > have an RGB video connector to go to a monitor, an RGB video connector to > go to the Mac's video out port, and a PC Joy stick port. > --- end of quote --- > > Wow, ok. She had me convinced that it "always worked" in this configuration, but that's clearly not true. She must've forgotten all about the Mega-Dongle. *snort* *chuckle* BWAAAHAHHAAAAAA!!! -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 3 months

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by Marion.Bates＠dartmouth.edu

--- Chris and Martin K?ser both wrote: There should be a cable that plugs into that port. That cable will then have an RGB video connector to go to a monitor, an RGB video connector to go to the Mac's video out port, and a PC Joy stick port. --- end of quote --- Wow, ok. She had me convinced that it "always worked" in this configuration, but that's clearly not true. She must've forgotten all about the Mega-Dongle. I have emailed her to find out if she still has it somewhere. Fingers crossed... :) Thanks for all the help, everyone! -- MB

24 years, 3 months

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1A2 phone system

by PasserM＠umkc.edu

People even used to put key-switch locks on the phones that were wired to disable the dial so that someone couldn't make unauthorized calls if they had physical access to the phone. ... Which were (and are) trivially circumvented by flashing the switchhook the n times, where n is the digit you wanted to dial, and pausing a second or two in between each digit. --Mike

24 years, 3 months

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Suptnik and RT-11

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Ron Hudson <rhudson(a)cnonline.net> > >What is RT-11 most like? CP/M-80 was modeled after it, or DOS on PCs. Internally the file system is simpler but other aspects are more sophisticated. For IO it's more sophisticated than either DOS on pcs or CP/M though. >Will it run on Bob Suptnik's emulator? Yes. Allison

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Free: older hardware, mainly PC

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 13, Joe wrote: > >> > -Microchannel 4 port serial board (uses 16450 uart chips, but they are > >> > replaceable, with cable) > >> > >>I am just wondering what a non-replaceable 16450 chip is.. > > > >Soldered in? > > Potted? Heh...no, that was Sridhar last night. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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