- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by vaxman＠earthlink.net

I apologize, but I didn't save the email that told who was taking over while Jay took a sabatical... The questions: Is the email address obfuscation in the archive up and running, and if not, when will it be? I am preparing to switch to an new email address, and don't want to provide it to the spammers directly... I'll wait until the obfuscation is in place before switching. Does the list archiver honor the 'X-NoArchive: Yes' line? Can it be made to? I'd like to be able to announce something (like the username/password for my private FTP site), but I don't want it to live forever in the archive. It's unlikely a spider would find the announcement and I'd get a hacker trying to break in, but why risc it... Best Regards, Clint

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Apple 3 Memory Upgrade

by aw288＠osfn.org

Remember those weird RAMs I asked about a week or so back? They are from an Apple 3 memory upgrade, and being that I don't have an Apple 3, I don't need them. So... The first person with a suitable trade*, bribe, barter, or pile of cash, gets them. 32 weird chips, in a bag labelled "Tested" (for whatever that is worth). Email me off list. *Trade? I like mainframe things - books, parts, software, etc. I also need R, B, and S series DEC Flip Chips. William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

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[CCTECH] List Management Q/A

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Jeffrey Sharp > > On Tuesday, July 9, 2002, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > > > > Does the list archiver honor the 'X-NoArchive: Yes' line? > > > > > > No. > > > > As Frank wrote, the normal form is "X-No-Archive: yes". > > Yes. That works. > > -- > - If that does prevent a message from being archived, I still think it's a good idea to send sensitive info directly to people, and _not_ through the lists. What if (as it does happen) someone accidentally replies to that message, unedited, to the list? It'll get archived anyway. Or does the "X-No-Archive" line stay in the reply? -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTECH] List Management Q/A

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 8, 19:30, Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > > Does the list archiver honor the 'X-NoArchive: Yes' line? > > No. As Frank wrote, the normal form is "X-No-Archive: yes". > Would anyone mind if "[cctalk]" was appended to all subject headers sent to > cctalk? I could live with it, but I'd really prefer not to. It's not necessary for filtering, given that several headers already have th list name in them: >From cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org Tue Jul 9 06:50:13 2002 To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org X-BeenThere: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Sender: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org Errors-To: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org X-BeenThere: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org X-Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Id: Classic Computer Discussion - Unmoderated <cctalk.classiccmp.org> List-Post: <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> List-Help: <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=subscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/> These are headers from your post, originally to CCTECH, but you can see that by the time it was crossposted to CCTALK, most had become CCTALK headers. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Memorex 9-track Drive Available - Act now!

by bill＠timeguy.com

I just found out my company is planning to scrap a Memorex tape drive, controller, and power supply, models 8222, 8224, and 8228 tomorrow (Wednesday, July 10th). It's huge and heavy and located in Lincoln, Nebraska. If you want it, speak now and I'll try to hold it for you - otherwise it's going to the scrapper tomorrow.

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[CCTECH] List Management Q/A

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

- My opinions and thoughts are inline... > From: Jeffrey Sharp > > This email contains answers to recent member questions, some new questions > for members, and news of recent changes. > > .. Many > people include email addresses in their sig blocks or introduce quoted > text > with "On mm/dd/yyyy, name <user@domain> wrote:" or similar lines. The > obfuscator doesn't obfuscate these things, so the whole feature seems > rather > worthless to me. The spam-conscious should definitely use a different > safety > method. > - Keep the obfuscator running anyway... > .... > > NEW QUESTIONS: > > Considering how vulnerable it is (see above), would anybody mind if I > turned > off the obfuscator? > - Yes. Heh, looks like I answered this before you even asked. ;) > Currently, "[CCTECH]" is prepended to all subject headers sent to cctech. > Would anyone mind if I lowercased that to "[cctech]"? The capital letters > seem to be screaming a little too much. > - Go ahead. Sounds fine to me. > Would anyone mind if "[cctalk]" was appended to all subject headers sent > to > cctalk? > - Hmmm, I recall a bit of noise when it was used originally. Isn't that why it was killed before? Personally, I don't mind it, though. > What are our opinions on the two-lists solution? > - So far, so good. > Cctech isn't currently moderated. In fact, it never has been AFAIK. It > seems > to have stayed on-topic without moderation. Are we ready for moderation to > be turned on, or should we consider alternatives? > - Keep it as-is. The threat of moderation seems to be working okay. If it does get out of hand, then turn on the moderation. > RECENT CHANGES > > ... > > The date shown for archived posts has been changed from the 'sent' date > (what the author says the date is) to the 'resent' date (what the > classiccmp > server thinks the date is). This will protect our archive from the people > whose computers think it is 1970. > - Ahhh. Consistency is a good thing. :) Overall, many thanks to those who put in much time keeping these lists running smoothly. -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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VS 4000vlc; Was Re: Goodwill Rulez!

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> BTW, I can't get any response at the boot monitor. HELP, SHO DEV, ?, >all the stuff I'm used to gets ILL CMD. BOOT works - VMS 5.5 > Are the console commands different from the 4000/60? Since BOOT works and HELP does not, my guess is that the security password has been activated and you either need to type LOGIN followed by the correct 16 hex-digit code (which I assume you don't know) or you need to pop the lid and do the magic to circumvent the password (which I cannot remember but will look up tonight if you need it). Antonio

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Goodwill Rulez!

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Hi. I was at the Goodwill Computer works today - big, big haul. Picked up: A Commodore cassette deck, in the box, for the Commodore 128D, with keyboard, that I grabbed Saturday to go with the Amiga 1080 display Bill gave me A 1541 floppy drive for same An Atari SF354 floppy, in the box, looks new. Tidbits and cables. I think one is the QuickTake-to-PC cable I needed. Will check pinouts later. Oh, Yeah! A TRS-80 trackpad. I think I gotta go back tomorrow for the Model 4 to go with it. Best of all. I was walking by the front counter, asked the guy "Are you holding that pile for someone?" He says "No, somebody just donated it. It's some kind of terminal. If you want it, you can take it all for $5." So I took the VT320, the LK402 (?!) keyboard and the VAXstation 4000vlc they were sitting on. WooHoo! Doc

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[CCTECH] Entering single-user mode on Pro/Venix?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

Still playing with my Professional 3xx boxes. Managed to clean one memory board of 8264 chips; will populate with 50256s when I locate my bag of 16 pin sockets. On the software side, I managed to get my RD51 with Pro/Venix 1.0 up and running on a 640KB Pro350. It was a gift some years ago; the donor even brought it by my house - no pickup! He didn't recall the root password, so I stuck it in the back of the basement and only recently dug it out. So... even though I have the manuals, it's not obvious how to get a Pro to enter single-user mode. Any suggestions? Barring that, I suppose I could wipe and re-install, but I'd like to poke around to see what's on the disk first. Thanks, -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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OT: eBay to buy PayPal - yet another ruination of a good thing :(

by foo＠siconic.com

I just saw on the news that eBay is buying PayPal for US$1.5 billion. Good for the folks at PayPal, but this does not bode well for PayPal customers if eBay's history of trying to wring profits out of it's customers in creative ways is any indication. It also does nothing for competition. This sucks. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Wanted: TU10 brackets

by owad＠applefritter.com

I'm looking for the brackets/mechanisms to mount my TU10 in the rack. Having never seen them, I don't have much of an idea what they're like, but it looks like two hinges. I'll buy or trade. Thanks, Tom Applefritter www.applefritter.com

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List Management Q/A

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > > Does the list archiver honor the 'X-NoArchive: Yes' line? > > No. Um, I think the canonical spelling is "X-No-Archive:". You might want to try another test with that. > Would anyone mind if "[cctalk]" was appended to all subject headers sent to > cctalk? Appended or prepended? Either way, yes, I mind. I'll deal with it, but I'd rather not have to. And in contrast to Chris, I'm not at all sympathetic to people who say they need this to sort their received mail; the list provides other headers that are usable for selecting cctalk mail. For example, "Sender: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org". -Frank McConnell

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NOT paypal puns (VT-1200)

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I managed to pick up a couple of VT-1200's/VX10A-AA's (no kb/mouse/etc) today at Purdue Salvage. If anyone wants one, give me an offer. I'd like to keep at least one to use. Also, does anyone know what sync rate they use? I'd like to be able to use them with something besides my IBM POWERdisplay 20 if that's possible (and besides the 'real' monitor that goes with them. -- Pat

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Bernoulli drives was:Re: What is this?

by edick＠idcomm.com

One weakness that Iomega products in general, but the Bernoulli drives specifically, had, was that the media would develop defects which it was difficult to map out. The large drives of the early-mid '80's with FD media in their cartridges came with software that could, to limited extent, fix these defects or map them out. The later rigid media drives, which I don't believe IOMEGA manufactured, came with no such utility, and the still-current, though probably obsolete, JAZ drives come with a utility set that doesn't really do much. I've used nearly every version of these devices, from the 8" to the 3-1/2", and I have to say that I've never encountered a product line that was as disappointing. Every one of them had a set of features that looked good in the marketing literature but never met the mark. I've got a basement full of 'em. Dick -----Original Message----- From: no <oliv555(a)arrl.net> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, July 08, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: Bernoulli drives was:Re: What is this? >Curt Vendel wrote: >> Sounds like the good old original Bournelli Box data cartridges.... first >> removal hard drives for PC's.... I remember working on those beasties.... >> the original design had an issue with the power board assembly and the >> capacitors used to explode. They were packaged into IBM XT type cases and >> when the caps blew it sounded like someone hit the case with the metal >> baseball bat... when the case was opened, underneath the cover would be the >> marks where the cap blew out.... of course this "feature" was fixed in later >> versions ;-) >> >> >> >> Curt >> > for those interested in this sort of thing... > ... there are 3 dual bournoulli 90 drives sitting at the >290/Goodwill here in NW houston. At least 4 of the drives had cartridges >in them > >-nick > > >

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Fw: equipment available (possibly!)

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Came across this a few minutes ago... Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gunshannon" <bill(a)triangle.cs.uofs.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: OT: equipment available (possibly!) > I realize this is kind of off topic, but I also figure the people > here are the ones most likely to be able to make use of this, so.... > > As part of a package deal I have come into possesion of some rather > large pieces of Compaq gear. I don't see us ever being able to use > it, much less actualy need it and I don't see the boss wanting to > store it as space is premium around here, That means I may be getting > rid of it at real bargain prices (especially being as I have no idea > what its value might be!) > > I am sure everyone is on the edge of their seats right now, so here > goes. > > I have two huge boxes labeled "StorageWorks". > One measures 31x35x67 and the other 23.5x35x44. > I have what I assume are chassis w/power supply that go into these. > There are no disks or sleds with these. :-( > > I also have a BA350 containing 2 HSJ40's. > > I also have two of the older style DEC racks labeled SC008-AC > each containing a pair of boxes labeled SC008-AB. > > And cables and terminators for said boxes galore!! > > If my boss says, "get rid of it." is there likely to be anyone > interested or should I be contacting a scrap yard?? > > This stuff was all in use until about a month ago. > > Do people like Island ever buy old stuff?? > > Sorry for bothering everybody, but maybe someone elses needs > will intersect with my good fortune. > > > bill > > -- > Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves > bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton | > Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

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[CCTECH] List Management Q/A

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Would anyone mind if "[cctalk]" was appended to all subject headers sent to >cctalk? As long as it doesn't cause replies to get into a battle over the prepending being before or after the Re: which rapidly turns into a subject line of "[cctalk] Re: [cctalk] Re: [cctalk] Re: [cctalk] Re: [cctalk]". Personally, I hate ALL list prepending for just this reason. I haven't seen one that works well with replies (probably because email clients battle how a reply is handled. I constantly see long threads turn into "RE: Re: RE: Re:"). Of course, I can live without the prepending just fine because my email client sorts the emails for me, so I don't need it to see in the subject where something is from. I do sympathize with those that are using clients that don't presort. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Versatec Board

by edick＠idcomm.com

The only context in which I've run into Versatec of that time frame is as a maker of electrostatic plotters. These were essentially big laser printers, albeit shaped a little differently than the desktop variety, much larger, and VERY costly. They're just a memory now, though. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, July 07, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Versatec Board >> This board is approximately 14" or 15" square and has two edge >> connectors on the bottom approximately 6' - 7" long; I don't recall what > >That does sound like a board from a DG Nova... > >> the Nova boards look like. While it has some test points on it, it does >> not have any connectors to the outside world. > >Hmmm... THat's strange. But didn't some Nova cards route the I/O >connections through the main backplane???? > >-tony >

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Test Message, Ignore

by lists＠subatomix.com

Testing 'X-NoArchive'.

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[CCTECH] Test Message, Ignore

by lists＠subatomix.com

Testing list configuration changes. _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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cctalk digest, Vol 1 #76 - 40 msgs

by mtapley＠swri.edu

>From: "Bruce Ray" <bkr(a)WildHareComputers.com> >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: eBay to buy PayPal - yet another ruination of a good thing :( >Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:41:07 -0600 > >...or sounds like an opportunity for an emerging new competitive business - >SellamPal. ;-) No, no. "PayToSellam!" - Mark

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Shameless Plug Alert

by mythtech＠mac.com

> Well, Lord knows I tried to subscribe. Several times. The classiccmp.org >mailer doesn't seem to want to recognize 'majordomo' as a valid user. >Anyway... Since this was the 2nd person to complain that majordomo isn't a valid address, I thought something might be amiss. Sure 'nuff, the subscribe info on www.classiccmp.org was never updated to reflect the new mailing list server info. It still tells you to send a message to majordomo(a)classiccmp.org. I know Jay in on 'vacation' right now, so there is probably nothing that can be done. Anyone else have the power to update the web site? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Shameless Plug Alert

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Hi, gang, Well, Lord knows I tried to subscribe. Several times. The classiccmp.org mailer doesn't seem to want to recognize 'majordomo' as a valid user. Anyway... Shameless plug: I have an Intel MCS-85 development board with manual and schematics up for auction on E-pay. Here's the link if you're interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2036649143 The most recent bid is around $25.00. Thanks for putting up with me and my occasional ads. ;-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

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Success story (VT1200)

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Success story. Got the VT1200, took the mouse apart, fixed it, hooked up the VRE01 flatpanel, got it tweaked and working.. Got a MMJ and a DB9 adapter from Doc Shipley, they work fine (serial console). Went to Goodwill, got a 12port (gak!) 10baseT hub (old D-Link) with a 10base2 uplink on the back. Got cables. Got home. No 10b2 Ts and terminators. Called friends. Friend had a box of them, left four Ts and two terminators on my porch this morning. Hooked everything up... mrbill@chip:~> ping -s vt1200 PING vt1200: 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=0. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=1. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=2. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=3. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=4. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=5. time=7. ms ^C ----vt1200 PING Statistics---- 6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 7/7/7 mrbill@chip:~> xdpyinfo name of display: 192.168.123.250:0.0 version number: 11.0 vendor string: DECWINDOWS DigitalEquipmentCorp. vendor release number: 11 maximum request size: 16384 bytes motion buffer size: 0 bitmap unit, bit order, padding: 32, LSBFirst, 32 image byte order: LSBFirst number of supported pixmap formats: 1 supported pixmap formats: depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 keycode range: minimum 86, maximum 251 focus: window 0x10000e, revert to None number of extensions: 1 ServerManagementExtension default screen number: 0 number of screens: 1 screen #0: dimensions: 1024x864 pixels (260x219 millimeters) resolution: 100x100 dots per inch depths (1): 1 root window id: 0x8006b depth of root window: 1 plane number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 1 default colormap: 0x80066 default number of colormap cells: 2 preallocated pixels: black 0, white 1 options: backing-store NO, save-unders NO largest cursor: 16x16 current input event mask: 0x0 number of visuals: 1 default visual id: 0x80065 visual: visual id: 0x80065 class: StaticGray depth: 1 plane available colormap entries: 2 red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 significant bits in color specification: 1 bits Unfortunately: mrbill@chip:~> xterm Warning: Cannot convert string "5x7" to type FontStruct xterm: unable to locate a suitable font ugh. I did NOT want to have to mess with remote fonts, considering I have ZERO documentation for this thing... I just wish it had SSH built-in. Cool and useful, regardless.. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Fw: It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ?

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

----- Original Message ----- From: Keys To: cctech@classiccmp Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ? Check out this Lisa 2 that went for $1500. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2034952824

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[CCTECH] It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ?

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Check out this Lisa 2 that went for $1500' http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2034952824

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WTB: MMJ cables and adapters

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I'm in need of a couple MMJ (to MMJ) cables and some MMJ-to-DB9 and MMJ-to-DB25 adapters. I'd like to avoid paying Blackbox $8/ea for the cables if possible Length is unimportant, heck, 3" or 6" will work, I just need to turn MMJ into DB9 or DB25. (I'm borrowing one from Doc for the VT1200 right now, and need to return his soon) The VT1200 and VRE01 is *beautiful*, but I also need a pair of 10b2 T-connectors and some terminators before I can get it on the network (picked up a D-Link hub with 10b2 on back today at Goodwill for $11). Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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[CCTECH] It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Note that the buyer is from Italy. After reading the feedback He is a collector. Paxton Astoria, OR Sorry for the blank email. My fingers were too quick.

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[CCTECH] It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/7/02 9:15:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, celt(a)chisp.net writes: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2034952824

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Sept. 85 BYTE article needed

by rcini＠optonline.net

> Hello, all: > > I'm looking for an article in the September 1985 issue of BYTE on > the EGO Homebrewed CPU (Part 1) by Clifford Kelley. I have part 2, but > not part 1. > > Please contact me off-list if someone has it and can scan it for me. > Thanks. > > Rich > > Rich Cini > Collector of classic computers > Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project > Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ > /************************************************************/ > >

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Free: Sony NEWS workstation (Austin, TX)

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got a Sony NEWS workstation (keyboard, system unit, and external SCSI tape drive) free for pickup in Austin, TX. Its a NWS-841. I no longer have the monitor for the unit (has a 3W3 connector on the back; monitor was a GDM-1962B-style), but I do have the keyboard (in original box, no mouse) and external tape drive (uses a Centronics-style SCSI-I cable). Has a floppy drive (with yellow plastic drive protector) and even still has the red "caps" covering some of the I/O ports in back. It looks very unused, but its been years since I tried to power it up; I dont even remember anymore where I got it from. Best specs I've been able to find on it: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=NWS-841&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=24800002%… " There was a short blurb about the new Sony workstations in INFOWORLD (Feb 1, 1988 page 3, "AT DEADLINE"). ...Internally called the "Sun Killer," the NWS-841 will sport two 16-MHz 68020 microprocessors, a 68881 math coprocessor, 8M of RAM, a 286- MB floppy drive, six I/O ports, including an EtherNET interface, one rep. said. The machine will sell for about $19,900. Supported software will include BSD4.2, NFS, and X. " Anyway, if anybody is interested, let me know. I'd like to get this out of the way, but dont want to scrap it. It just must go to a good home. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Swap meet failure

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

Tried a Swap meet in Ottawa today. Most people misunderstand the meaning of swap. There were more machines on my driveway after the event that when it started. Traded 2 small case fans for cash, and a partial HP 9000/715 for a Cromemco system 3, 2 apple II clones, a TI 99, 3 HP external disk drives, a few commodore 64's and a bunch of documentation . Left behind was a MAC PLUS, LC II, LC III, ACER ?? all with monitors, a few external scsi boxes, and socket 7 mobo's. On my door step last night was a TRS 80 model III and a Commodre 128, And the night before I picked up a SGI personal iris and a compaq contura aero. And my favorite scrapper has a commodore SX-64 in the back. All in all a good week, but the next swap will have to be on someone elses drive way I no longer have space to have another.

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Some Vacation Finds

by univac2＠earthlink.net

Well, I went to a glorified scrap yard today, and picked up some neat stuff, and left some neater stuff behind. Other than a VT100, I got only books. The neatest one being DEC's "Introduction To Minicomputer Networks". Being on vacation and having limited hauling capacity I had to leave behind: MicroVAX 3500 DECserver 500 Some kind of IBM RS/6000 thingy Quite a bit of Sun stuff, some SparcStation 1/2s, keyboards, monitors, etc... Some newer DEC stuff and some misc old equipment like printing terminals, a Magnetic Tape Selectric, and a ton of Apple stuff. IBM Office System 6 - I remember reading a little about this. It's like a small desk with two 8" floppy drives and a selectric keyboard, basically. I would really like to get this if possible. Anyone know anything about it? I hope to make it back over here in my truck someday. -- Owen Robertson

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Free: Amiga 1080 monitor (Austin)

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got an Amiga 1080 RGB-or-Composite-input monitor, free for pickup in Austin, TX. Works great; I've been using it as the preview monitor (and to watch TV on) off a VCR for a few months now.. but its just too big and too bulky and puts out too much heat for what I use it for - so I'm gonna try to find a normal TV set to use for that stuff (or even one of the little 3" black and white models). Any leads on that appreciated 8-) Anyway, Amiga 1080. Works fine. Pick it up and its yours. (BTW, sticker on back says mfg. 01/96). Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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RS/6000 580

by pat＠purdueriots.com

YAY! I've got it partially IPLing off of the drives that came out of my 55L. It seems to halt with a message of '552' - IPL Varyon falied. Does anyone know enough IBM-speak to tell me what that means? Aparently, the problem it was having earlier with powering off automagically was caused by the power supply thinking a fan was broken - once I fixed that problem, it magically started doing stuff again. I'm about to try booting in service mode with a set of diagnostic disks and see if I can figure anything else out. One more thing -- I'm still getting just a black picture out of the video card, like I was with the 5%L. Does anyone know if that's what it should be doing, or if something there is amiss, too? I've got a 'real' rs/6000 keyboard and mouse hooked up to the system this time, and haven't tried booting with a serial terminal yet. Thanks for any help. -- Pat

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SGI's first MIPS workstation

by red＠bears.org

I recall this was the subject of some debate earlier. I dug up a primary source last night, and offer the following article from the Summer 1987 edition of IRIS Universe: "announcing the IRIS 4D/60 turbo option" In March, Silivon Graphics demonstrated its commitment to being the undisputed leader in the superworkstation market by introducing the IRIS 4D/60, the industry's first RISC-based superworkstation. This new product introduction generated more interest and excitement than any other single event in Silicon Graphics' history. Certainly a major reason for the industry's excitement is the IRIS 4D/60's premier graphics performance. Equally important, however, is the new RISC and floating point technology incorporated in the IRIS 4D/60. Users' response to this level of computing performance from the RIS 4D/60 continues to be very enthusiastic. Now, four months after the introduction of the IRIS 4D/60, Silicon Graphics once again leads the industry by introducint the IRIS 4D/60 Turbo Option, a high-performance computing upgrade for the IRIS 4D/60 Superworkstation. By integrating the latest in RISC and floating point technoloyg, the IRIS 4D/60 Turbo Option breaks both the 10 MIPS and 1 MFLOPS performance barriers! While the IRIS 4D/60 is already the best all-around performer in its price range, the integer and floating point performance of the new Turbo Option make this upgrade truly phenomenal. The IRIS 4D/60 Turbo Option incorporates a 12.5 MHz RISC CPU, 50 percent faster than the 8 MHz CPU introduced with the IRIS 4D/60. This CPU is tightly coupled with a new single-chip floating point coprocessor. By using custom VLSI technology, the the [sic]Turbo Option increases the floating point performance of the IRIS 4D/60 by a factor of three. The Turbo Option's new CPU board also includes cache memory, up to 16 Mbytes of on board CPU memory, and an interface to SCSI peripherals. By having all of the major components of the CPU architecture on a single board, the rate of data transfer between components is significantly improved, thereby maximizing system performance. The IRIS 4F/60 Turbo Option employs a dual-cache architecture incorporating 64 Kbytes of instruction cache plus 32 Kbytes of data cache. The dual cache architecture increases system performance byholding large portions of the application program in efficient cache memory, and ensures that instructions and data will not compete for the same cache locations. This architecture improves performance of large applications by reducint the time required to access instructions and data. How fast is fast? Using the Dhrystone benchmark, the industry standard for measuring integer computing performance, an IRIS 4D/60 with the Turbo Option leads the superworkstation pack at 10 MIPS (ten times a VAX 11/780). Using the Linpack benchmark to measure floating point performance, the Turbo Option performs 1.1 million double precision floating point operations per second (1.1 MFLOPS). In addition to theis significatn boost in computing performance, Silicon Graphics announces support for advanced lighting models on the IRIS 4D/60, with or without the Turbo Option. Both infinite and local light sources are supported, including attenuation of local light sources with distance >from the source. Diffuse and specular (Phong) lighting are also supported, and up to eight colored light sources may be modeled simultaneously. The Turbo Option may be purchased as a field installable upgrade for the IRIS 4D/60. Please contact your local sales representative. -- typos solely my responsibility. ok r.

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Scrap Hard Drive & PC Card Prices?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/6/02 7:31:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, marvin(a)rain.org writes: > I was offered about $0.15 per pound for the hard drives a while ago and > $1.00 per pound for the circuit boards. Since I probably have about 500 > - 1000 pounds of drives and cards, it is something worth looking into > :). Right now, this excess is too much of a distraction and slows down > getting other stuff done. Additionally, I've been throwing out stuff > (non computer related) and saving the gold connectors, gold plated > boards, etc. without any idea of what it might be worth. Time to find > out :). > Those are good prices on your scrap. Aluminum Breakage (Hard Drives) is about 16 cents a pound and cards run from 40 cents to $2 per pound depending on the age and how heavy the gold plate it. Cut fingers go for more. HP gold plated boards go for $3 to $3.50 per pound. Ask your scrapper how to sort your cards for maximum value. Remove all Aluminum and Iron for maximum value. There are several chip recyclers out there also who will pay a premium if the cards have chips they want to pull for resale. Many scrappers will buy small quantities. I could direct you to one in Portland, OR but I think you can find one locally. Paxton Astoria, OR

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WTD: Microtan 65 info

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi, I'm looking for a copy (scanned or otherwise) of the Microtan 65 mainboard schematic and a copy of the Microtan 65 parts list. I'm planning to adapt the video circuitry to a 6502-based computer I'm currently building. Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/

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LSI-11/2

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>I'm betting it's as small as QBUS comes. It's a Q/Q backplane, with 4 >quad-with slots. However, I could stick it into the backplane for my >VAXstation 3200, which should be 22-bit Q/Q for most of the backplane >(perhaps Q/CD for the top three quad-width slots). Doesn't make sense to put it in the 22-bit backplane if the processor and memory can't use it... The backplane you have is fine... >OK, well, I have an 11/2 CPU and not an 11/73 CPU. If you want to >donate an 11/73 CPU, I'd be happy to take it off your hands. :) :-) Fine... an 11/23 (KDF11-A) will work there as well... and if you don't have that or can't get it, the 11/2 is fine to get the machine going. >The 'MSCP ESDI' board, part # "SCD-RQD11/EC" (I guess it's not a DEC >part, even though it says "MFG UNDER LICENSE FROM DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORP" >on the back, is in my VAXstation 3200, and runs a pair of 600MB-650MB >drives that appear to be ESDI. I've got a DECNA (i think) network >adaptor in my VS3200 I could try to use. Right now, I'm wanting to try >and re-use hardware I have instead of search for hardware that is hard to >find. Okay, it isn't DEC... and is ESDI... great... you have disks (do you have a floppy to attach to it so that you can install software?) The DECNA is for the PRO series of machines... you need a DEQNA or DELQA... since you are going to be running PDP-11 OSes, the DEQNA should be fine if you can get one. If you can't, you will still have a workable machine. >Also, is it possible/easy to change the M8044-BB board (8KW?) to have at >least 16KW if not 32KW of memory? That'd be a nice upgrade for the >machine if I can do it myself with 'stock' DRAMs. Yes, you can replace the M8044-B with an M8044-C (for 16kw) or M8044-D (for 32kw). The above parts are fine, but you still need a boot board (REV-11) and a serial line unit (DLV11 or, better, a DLV11-J). If you can find an MXV11-B, you can add its memory to that of the M8044-B you already have and get up to 24kw plus two serial lines and boot code which will boot from MSCP type disks (as well as code for DX, DY, and DL). Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: gentry at zk3.dec.com (work) | | Unix Support Engineering Group | mbg at world.std.com (home) | | Hewlett Packard | (s/ at /@/) | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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Qbus, ISA cards free plus shipping

by fernande＠internet1.net

Free plus the cost of shipping. -3 M8043 DLVJ1-M Q 4-Line Asynchronous Interface -1 M7504 DEQNA-M Q Qbus to ethernet adapter, Q22, obsolete for VMS 5.x and above (use DELQA). -1 M7165 KDA50-Q Q Qbus SDI disk adapter, Q22 (2 of 2) (QDA SDI) -1 M7602 VCB01, QVSS Q Qbus Video Sub System module for Q22 systems (uVAX I, II) -1 M8061 RLV12 Q RL01/RL02 disk control -1 Adaptec 1542B ISA SCSI card -1 Western Digital VGA 8/16 ISA card 256K -1 IBM serial/parallel card 8-bit ISA NS16450N UART -1 Maxtor MXT-540S scsi drive made for IBM FRU 92F0406 540mb -1 IBM WDS-380 scsi drive 80mb -1 generic PC floppy cable If I've promised you cards before, please accept my apologies for not shipping yet. I'll have things boxed soon. I was working a lot of hours, and got behind with everything else. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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11/70 in VA

by root＠parse.com

I've stumbled across a PDP-11/70 in VA (+1 540 area code). It has a tape associated with it. I'm not sure how much they want, but I believe that I'll be getting some 11/70's closer to home (which are already spoken for :-)). I currently have a person who is #1 on the list for the system, and his #1 priority expires on Monday. I'm looking for a #2 person to give the system to (if my #1 doesn't want it). Any takers? Also, anyone have any PDP stuff they're getting rid of (perhaps the novelty has worn off?) :-) Cheers, -RK -- Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com

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FREE STUFF in Austin, TX

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got some FREE STUFF in Austin, Texas. Only thing is, you *HAVE* to pick it up, *IN PERSON*. I"m tired of people saying they'll arrange something, have someone come by, etc. Its up for grabs for the first person who shows up and can actually put this stuff to use, or emails me with a *convincing* reason why I should hold/ship it for them and has something to trade for what they want. First batch, some Sun VME boards and a 4/6x0 memory board: http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/freestuff/ (pictures) (the DELNI and the GRiD laptops are spoken for) Some of the cards are FDDI: http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/fddi/ (pictures) Second, a Toshiba T3100 orange-plasma-screen laptop. CMOS battery is dead, but it works fine if you have a DOS boot disk and put the time in manually. Makes a GREAT serial console for a *NIX machine: http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/laptop/ (pictures) (well, its more of a "portable"; it only takes AC power and is rather heavy.. if you've seen "Medicine Man" with Sean Connery, one of these is the machine he's using in his "lab" IIRC...) Third, I have a pair of IBM P70 portable (486?) systems with orange plasma displays. When I got these, one powered up but gave a "bad HD" error code, one didnt power up at all. I attempted to swap out the hard drives between the two, but after I tried that, neither would power up. I beleive they are both missing the back system cover, but would be great for replacement parts to keep another P70 running. Fourth, I have an IBM PC Convertible laptop, with dual 720K floppy drives, LCD screen (of course), battery pack, and the I/O-port "pack", in original IBM canvas carry case. Last time I fired it up (early '99?) the backlight was intermittent, but otherwise everything worked fine. Great keyboard; might make a good serial console for something. Again, free, but you must pick these up in Austin, TX, at my house. I will NOT ship anything (unless you have a REALLY good trade offer, and pay for shipping). If you want something held, you will have to trade me something interesting for what you want. I'm tired of people telling me "oh, I'll pick those up soon" or "I'll have $relative who lives near there contact you", etc. First come, first serve. I need this stuff out of the way, but its too good to trash.. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Trying to thin things out via Ebay

by fernande＠internet1.net

I've listed a few auctions on Ebay. If your anyplace besides the US or Canada please let me know ahead of time, if you'd like to bid. http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=fernande&i… Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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FT: TI Silent 700 terminal

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got a TI Silent 700 portable thermal printing terminal (has 300 baud modem, acoustic coupler cups, etc)... but this isnt just *any* Silent 700 (model 765): This has the bubble memory expansion (which from what I understand, is rather rare). On a sticker inside the paper compartment: DATA ACCESS SYSTEMS, INC - HOUSTON Servide 713-682-6820 Sales 713-682-5965 Model # TI 765 Serial # 04766-17603 DASI OPTION VENDOR 1B07 80 K. MEM KIT II 1B10 (CHAR MAP.) Last time I fired this up a couple of years ago, it worked, although the thermal print head either needed cleaning or replacing - a pin was "missing" in some of the output. I didnt have time, at the time, to take it apart and clean it or diagnose the problem. Has the "snap-on-top" cover with carrying handle, etc. Cover was the victim of some slight paint overspray (white) when we painted part of this room, but no paint got on the unit itself. The cover only got slightly dusted on one corner; it may come off with rubbing alcohol. Would like to swap for something else interesting. I had two of these (the other didnt have all the spiffy options), and gave the other away a year or so ago... I just dont have room for this anymore, and would like to see it go to a good home. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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[CCTECH] PC board storage

by edick＠idcomm.com

If you're talking assembled and working boards, you probably want to put them in static-dissipative (primary) packaging and put that in antistatic (secondary) packaging that's capable of protecting them mechanically. The totes aren't all they're cracked up to be unless you have a way of sealing them. The "nickel" bags as primary packaging with pink-poly (non-static-generating) secondary packaging to protect them from physical trauma and the whole thing in a sturdy box together with other similarly packaged and protected boards should do the trick. A little dessicant to prevent condensation inside the primary packaging is helpful as well. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Cini, Richard <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> To: 'CCLTech' <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, July 01, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: [CCTECH] PC board storage >Hello, all: > > I'm seeking opinions on long-term PC board storage. Is it better for >longer term storage of "classic" boards to individually pack them in "metal >out" static bags and store them in conventional cardboard boxes or should I >buy a few static dissipative cardboard boxes or Bentron plastic totes and >store the boards there? > >Rich > >_______________________________________________ >cctech mailing list >cctech(a)classiccmp.org >http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech >

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LSI-11/2

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I've got an embeded syatem based around an LSI-11/2 processor board, M8044-BB (8KW?) memory, pair of DRV-11's, a MDB eprom board and ADC board. What do I need to do to make this into a functional PDP-11? I've got a DEC MSCP ESDI controller (don't remeber the part #), DLV-11 (8-port version) serial card, TQK50, and drives from my VAXstation 3200 I can try to use in it. It's from my DPE 5000, the video part of which let out a bunch of magic smoke being powered on - can't find any obvious burned parts, but haven't checked the power supply yet. Still, it's worth more to me as a LSI(PDP)-11 than a video effects box that I can't fix. First, however, I'm sure I need DEC boot roms for it, or some other way to get boot code into it. Does anyone happen to have some laying around they could maybe send me an image of? Also, I'm on the lookout for a RLV12 and berg cable to connect to the RL02 I have sitting around here.. Any ideas/help would be appreciated, and thanks in advance. -- Pat

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IDT Screenmax System

by donm＠cts.com

Does anyone have any knowledge of a machine put out by Industrial Data Terminals back in the '80s that was called the IDT Screenmax System. It was a non-standard unit that utilized a hard drive, single 5" floppy, and bubble memory to be a custom video design package. The unit in question was used to create industrial process control screens. IDT was taken over by Cutler Hammer Automation and when the unit failed in service recently it was returned to them for repair. They replaced the hard drive, did not install CP/M-86 to make it bootable, and proceeded to lose the master diskettes that they had requested be sent with the unit.

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What is this item?

by jingber＠ix.netcom.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2036592395 Seller claims it's a "Hardware Service Unit". Looks like a 5161 expansion unit to me. I assume this is something else, since the expansion unit is clearly marked as such on the IBM logo. (?) Jeff

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Interesting adware PDF utilities

by jfoust＠threedee.com

Apropos the endless discussions about the best ways to convert docs to electronic form, http://www.pdf995.com/ . - John

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DPE 5000

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I just picked up a Quantel Limited DPE-5000 video switcher. You ask how this relates to computers? The interface box is an LSI-11/02 with 4KW of RAM. Wahoo! Does anyone have more info on this thing? It has an 'interface unit' - the LSI-11/02 in a 2U 19" rack case, 4 Q/Q quad-wide slots, some control boxes, cables, and a big switcher unit that is about 14" tall and 19" wide (might be rack mount using slide rails that I didn't get because they were broken. Any info would be appreciated, thanks! Also, if anyone needs one of these, I might be willing to part with it for a decent amount of money - a bit more than a few tens of dollars. -- Pat

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big IBM on Ebay??

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Ethan Dicks > > --- g(a)kurico.com wrote: > > Looks like an AT&T logo on the front. Probably an NCR if it has MCA > > slots. > > > > George > > > > On 3 Jul 2002 at 2:37, Chad Fernandez wrote: > > > > > Don't really know what it is, but it claims to have MCA slots?? > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2036499330 > > ISTR "3555" is a model of NCR box. We used them when I was at Lucent > (they were bought before AT&T "trivested" into AT&T, NCR and Lucent). > > They typically run SYSVr4, but I was told that you _could_ boot them > to DOS and play DOOM on them (I didn't ask ;-) > > Big ones like that were MCA. Newer NCR servers were 1/3 the size and > PCI. I think most of ours were quad Pentium-90 boxes.... > > __________________________________________________ > Pretty neat box. Quad Pentium 133 with 256 MB of RAM? Just how much RAM could that beast take? It'd be quite the conversation piece as a workstation running NetBSD (or something) and XWindows... 8-) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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