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slightly OT: looking for an HP deskjet accessory

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

I'm sorry, this is only 5 years old, but I'm looking for the large paper feeder that holds a ream of paper for a Hewlett Packard 1600CM printer. I've never seen one, but I think it is a separate unit the printer sits on. Maybe in your travels you might see one in a dusty corner somewhere. Thanks. Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO

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Highest capacity ESDI hard disks

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Hello folks, I wonder, does anyone know what were the highest capacity ESDI hard disks made? Were there any in the 1 GB range? And last but not least, where can I find such drives? MS

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honeywell manuals

by Fritz_Chwolka＠t-online.de

Hi.. I got some documents about honewell GCOS6 and other. The computers were used in the 8ths in an powerstation for collecting informations for the management. I don't know what models were used. Untill I own no hardware from honewll I'll scan the documents and put them onto. After scanning they go into the dumpster as I have no place left. http://oldcomputers.dyndns.org/public/pub/rechner/honeywell/manuals/ Greetings from Fritz Chwolka <collecting old computers just for fun> > www.alterechner.de <

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Soroc was: new finds

by yakowenk＠cs.unc.edu

Hey Joe, How sure are you about IQ-120's having 1802's? ISTR doing a class project on that, studied the schematics (wish I had those now!), and concluded that the design was very much like a microcoded CPU - some PAL or PGA controlling register transfers, with a state register acting as a kind of micro-program counter... Now I wonder if that was some other terminal. It was 20 years ago, and my memory aint what it used to be. I may be interested in that IQ-130; I'll e-mail you off-list. My IQ-135 is actually in pieces (courtesy of UPS ten years ago). But there's a happy ending: I've found somebody with an ailing IQ-135 that needs parts. I'm packing it up for shipping now. Bill. On 29 Jun 2003, Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Hi Bill, > > I THOUGHT it had an 1802 until I took it apart for cleaning/checking. > Then I found out that it had one of those "RARE" NEC Z-80s :-/ It turns > out that this is a model 130 and not a model 120. The 120s did use 1802s. > This one also has the 1602 USART. I searched E-bay and didn't find anything > related to Soroc. I searched the net and found quite a few hits for the > model 120 and only one hit for the 130 and that was a message that Erik K. > posted few weeks ago. I didn't see anything for a 135 but I did see a > mention of a model 140. > > > The one sitting next to me here (an IQ-135) definitely has a z80. > > Do you need a 130 to go with it? This one is interesting but I don't > have room for things like this. > > Joe

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"The Mark-8 was an Intel 8008" was Re: I thought the Univac was expensive

by Innfogra＠aol.com

It is an interesting batch of sales. If you look at their other listings there is an Intel iPSC, a MASPAR and what I think is an IBM 5100 listed with the a strange title "The Mark-8 was an Intel 8008" listed in "antiques." http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=12&item=2542757186 I, too, am inclined that the seller has a problem with decimals. I think they are very unfamiliar with eBay, having just registered. The ads are in the wrong categories. The descriptions are not what would sell a piece of equipment. Also seller in Japan, listed on the Australian eBay site with shipping in misquoted US Dollars. I suspect a Newbie or possibly fraudulent (low probability but worth being very careful) Does anyone recognize the pictures as being from somewhere else on the WEB. Many Japanese are collectors so it could be an original collection. The high valuations lead me to think it might be a collector. If you search their completed sales they are all collectable baseball cards. http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems& userid=extremejordanfanno1&include=0&since=30&sort=2&rows=100 They brought good money too. The Ford Typewriter is also getting good bids at a price that indicate the decimal places are not misplaced. I suspect a Japanese collector that is a newbie to eBay, and needs to raise money. Paxton Astoria, OR Who wishes he had an iPSC......

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Fwd: RE: 8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64

by semlj001＠hotmail.com

Chandra, The 8250 does hook up to a Commodore PET but the stats seem quite different between the 8050 and 8250. I can't seem to find a pic on the net of an 8250 but the drives are side by side. (see http://www.classic-games.com/commodore64/drives.html) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Chandra Bajpai" <cbajpai(a)comcast.net> Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: RE: 8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 07:45:45 -0400 Lance....Does this look like 8050 that hooks up to a Commodore PET? -Chandra -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Lance S Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 11:39 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: 8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64 I am looking for an 8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64. Second hand is fine. If anyone could help me out it would be greatly appreciated. Lance. _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=174&re ferral=Hotmail_taglines_plain&URL=http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/defa ult.asp _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=174&refer…

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RT-11 buglist

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

The RT-11 buglist has been updated with some new known bugs. Check it out at: http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/ Version 1.0 of the buglist is there as well as the new 1.1 version. Interested parties may want to poke around www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11 to see what else new might be there as well. Regards, Jay West

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Fwd: Monrobots

by dbetz＠xlisper.mv.com

Here is the latest message I've received about the Monrobot XI computers. While I'm glad that they are going to a collector, I'm sorry to hear that none will be available for anyone else. I just hope that this collector will make them available in some sort of museum or open collection. I'd love to have a chance to see one in person again. Also, I'm trying to contact Fred to determine if his offer to duplicate the documentation is still open. Begin forwarded message: > From: Thomasduplex(a)aol.com > Date: Sat Jul 5, 2003 1:49:46 PM US/Eastern > To: dbetz(a)xlisper.mv.com > Subject: Monrobots > > > Thanks for your interest in these computers. I regret to say that they > are no > longer available. > > We consider ourselves very fortunate that a serious collector of such > computers has made a very attractive offer for all of them as a single > package. Since > you are interested and he may wish to dispose of some of them, I will > certainly supply him with your name. > > Fred Thomas

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Bogen CHS-100A

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I could use a schematic for a Bogen CHS-100A. If you have it could you email >it to me? Was there a HUGE delay in some people receiving posts? Or did part of the archives only recently get picked up by google or something similar? This is the 2nd request recently for manuals that I offered to the list some MONTHS ago. Fortunatly, I am very very very slow at actually taking my recycling pile out, so the manuals are still in my office, just burried at the bottom of the pile. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Xebec MFM Controller

by dl7ef＠t-online.de

I just owned a 5160 XT IBM. I got the described Xebec Controller. I got the problem, that error 1701 while booting appears. Now I want to do a low level format. But all Debug Addresses like C800:5 or C800:6 or CE00:5 don´t let the format utility of eprom start. What have i done wrong ? What kind of software could I use and where can I get it ? And what´s the correct address ?? I ´ve got a Seagate ST412. Could you be so nice to send me the softwareutility or / and the correct address of the internal bios lowlevel format utility ??? Thanx in advance You´re my last hope. Alex

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Attention calculator collectors

by anheier＠owt.com

Like new in boxes: Hewlett-Packard HP-41C scientific calculator. Manuals, quick reference guide, pouch, NiCad battery pack, no charger. Calculator tested with alkaline battery pack (not included). One memory module ( model HP 82170A) with carrier included. Card Reader, model 82104A for above with manual, blank program cards and pouch carrier. All in great shape. Trade for vintage CPU processors or best offer. Please email for more information. Thanks Norm

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MMD-2 Docs

by nbreeden2＠comcast.net

Hi all, Does anyone have docs for the E&L MMD-2 I could get a copy of. There is nothing useful on the web, the archives here also didn't yield anything useful except for someone else looking for MMD-1 docs. Thanks, -Neil

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Specs of Personal DECstation 5000/20

by jph＠stephenson.net.dhis.org

Hello, I am looking for the specifications of the audio interface in the Personal DECstation 5000/20, especially the required impedances etc. of the speaker and microphone to be connected. Thanks in advance for all advices. Jean-Pierre

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Bogen CHS-100A

by jim＠q107fm.com

Hi Chris; I could use a schematic for a Bogen CHS-100A. If you have it could you email it to me? Jim Offerdahl mailto:jim@q107fm.com Pine to Prarie Broadcasting, Inc. KKCQ AM&FM/KKEQ FM PO Box 606 Hiway 2 East Fosston, MN 56542 (218) 435-1919 [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

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Looking for docs : Daisy wheel printer Qume LetterPro 20s

by jph＠stephenson.net.dhis.org

Hello, I am looking for documentation about the daisy wheel printer Qume LetterPro 20s (Sprint 12/25) with RS232 interface. especially the control codes. Thanks in advance for all advices. J.-P. Hofer

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Acorn (Was Re: Reading PDP-8 paper tapes)

by gtoal＠gtoal.com

> I have a couple of Acorn Systems (one 6502, the other 6809-based). I am > always looking for any of the more unusual I/O cards for them.... OK, refresh my memory here... what Acorn 6809 system would that be? I was only aware of two - one by Brian Jones which was a large hand- made breadboarded circuit he did as an experiment, and which ran FLEX, and one that I made which was a BBC second processor - *both* of which I have here at home. I don't remember Acorn making any production 6809 systems??? I have the original circuit diagram on tracing paper that Brian drew. My own was so simple (5 packages as I recall) that I didn't bother drawing a diagram :-) [I just worked from an ascii wiring list] I did two versions - the first was CPU TUBE ls139? (some single ttl chip for address decoding the tube) 2*32K 'greenwich instruments' battery-backed static rams I pre-loaded the static ram on a beeb with the boot code, so didn't need an eprom at all! the second was CPU TUBE Eprom 64K dynamic ram SIL (first SIL I ever saw!) Custom dynamic memory controller IC I was working on VLSI design tools at the time, and I designed the memory controller chip as my test piece. It was a PLA and a counter for ram refresh, not much else. [I found a 'work in progress' kernel source for my 6809 2nd proc earlier this year - written in Skimp, which was a compiler I had written myself as a University project; the compiler itself was written in the Edinburgh language Imp77 - Acorn actually had commissioned Imp77 compilers for both the 32016 and the ARM - and we recently found the full sources of the 3L ARM Imp (and Pascal) compilers at Edinburgh as part of our Edinburgh Computer History Project research!] It would have been a tremendously cheap second processor to build but Roger was quite set against the 6809 on the sole argument of clock speed. My argument was that it was a nicer processor and would have more high-level software than the 6502. Probably was true at the time although the 6502 did eventually get a whole slew of high level languages that I never would have thought possible. (I shared a house with the guy who worked on the Pascal compiler who I would occasionally give gratuitous advice to, and I also learned C while doing SQA of the C compiler) (quickly checks the web...) Well! http://www.stairwaytohell.com/atom/adverts/FLYER_Acorn_6809.png Never seen it in my life. It must have come and gone before I joined Acorn (I forget the year but it was post Beeb but pre-Electron) Other obscure Acorn kit that I have: the "Prophet" - a version of the Atom targetted at businesses. Never seen a single mention of it on the net. I have the Z80 second processor, various ARMs, I think a 286, a few 32016's - and a working ACW although it was having Beeb-side problems last time I tried it. Some day I'll photograph my acorn goodies and let you know what's available. Any cards I can put in a padded envelope and mail to anyone are fair game; the larger systems like the System 4 filestore and the ACW I'll be hanging on to. The atoms and electrons I could be persuaded to part with though they're easy to find anyway and I doubt you'd want mine. If anyone in the US has an Amercian Beeb (110V and NTSC) I'll be all over them to trade :-) - it would be a real boon for recovering the data from my boxes of 5.25" disks... Another project I did at Acorn was design a system for backing up hard discs to video tape. It used the teletext video chips (SA5050? - one of those SA chips anyway) to generate/decode a video signal. The actual board design was done by a new engineer who had been hired (Martin Gilbert) and was being broken in gently before being given any serious work. Hugo (file-system author) did the software. I believe the prototype actually worked but like most of my stuff at acorn it never made it to market :-/ Despite not contributing greatly to the financial success of Acorn, I have to say however that good times were had by all... it was definitely the best place I ever worked. G PS My main 'beeb' project before I transferred to VLSI CAD was the Teletext adapter. I found the source code recently if anyone wants it. I can't see Acorn giving me a hard time over releasing it after all these years...

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iUP-201 PC software

by T.Shaw＠corp.amc.edu.au

Hi Robert I found your request for modules for a iUP201 Universal Programmer. I have just dusted off a iUP-201 we have had sitting on a shelf for as long as anyone here can remember. I cant help you with modules but I would be very grateful if you could help me with software to drive it from a PC. I need to use it to read the contents of a 2732 EPROM from an engine volume generator I hope to update. regards Tim Shaw T.Shaw(a)corp.amc.edu.au Senior Technical Officer (Elect) +61-3-63354805 Ph Technical Services +61-3-63266493 Fax Australian Maritime College www.amc.edu.au

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PDP-11 Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11 (Originally Produced by Tim Shoppa)

by jhfinexgs2＠compsys.to

In regard to the Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11 that Tim Shoppa originally produced: I am in the middle of finishing a third (very small) batch of CDs and could easily add a few additional copies. I will be making all copies of the CD images from: ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RSX-11/ Since not everyone has both a high speed internet connection and a CD burner, I thought it would be helpful to make them available. If you have both requirements and are using Windows 98 SE / Nero Burning, I can help with the details if you don't know how to burn a CD from an "Image File". I have even been able to produce a label for each CD that is close to the original label from Tim Shoppa, although since they were scanned (THANK YOU FOR THE HELP), they are not perfect. They are available at $ 5 / $ 9 / $ 12 for 1 / 2 / 3 CDs. In addition, I understand that Memorex Black CD-Rs have a longer shelf life and are available at Business Depot. If anyone wants those instead, add $ 1 for each CD that you are requesting. Thus those amounts are $ 6 / $ 11 / $ 15 Please contact me directly for my snail mail address. I picked up some Memorex Black CD-R blanks and started on the copies for those who have already requested that a Black CD-R be used. Please include your mailing address!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In general, I will regard any funds you send as a gift so that if anyone really can't afford the CDs, please state why that is so. Outside of the US, probably about $ 2 should be sufficient for extra postage. All amounts are in US dollars. Please ask if you are not in the US. No point in converting twice. In addition, probably most people do not follow the exchange rate between the Canadian / US dollar, but the current rate is MUCH less favourable. If a 4th batch is ever made, the amounts to be sent will need to be changed. I will keep the amounts the same this time, but the $ 12 will become $ US 14 and the $ 15 will become $ US 18 based on the current exchange rate and adjusted at the time if the exchange rate changes again. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64

by semlj001＠hotmail.com

The drive on http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/deieee3.html is what I'm looking for. I've had a chat to my dad who's said that the technician said it could be one of 2 things. 1. The head moves & is attached to a wire. A connection in the wire could be faulty. He said that fixing the wire was niot an option for some reason or other but I guess we could replace the head. Can I replace the head with one from a different model? If so, which are compatible? 2. There are 3 main chips on the mainboard which seemed to be running hot. The guy replaced 2 but didn't have one to replace the 3rd. I have been chatting with another guy who has said that the 8250 drive is functionally the same as the 8250 LP so if anyone reading this has either for sale please let me know. Lance. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: 8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 20:03:41 -0700 (PDT) --- Lance S <semlj001(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Ethan, I'll find out the part that the technician thought was suspect. > If I haven't explained myself clearly enough, the 8250 LP is a double > disk drive that connects to a commodore 64. > > Thanks, > Lance. Looks like this: http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/deieee3.html Right? We are all talking about the same thing, but the drive by itself hooks to a PET. Your father must have a cartridge for his C-64 that provides an IEEE-488 port. One possibility is if you can't find an 8250LP is to get a regular 8250 (using the same connection). Dunno if an SFD-1001 would work or not... the DOS is not the same, so if your father's application depends on certain features of the drive itself, it might or might not be a reasonable substitute. There was a discussion about 8250LP repair on the CBM-Hackers list last year. This article is interesting: http://www.softwolves.pp.se/misc/arkiv/cbm-hackers/6/6731.html It suggests that the "fragile" part is a 6530 - a part made by Commodore that was always customized for its particular application. I've seen them on the KIM-1, in many Commodore disk drives and a few other places. Apparently some drives (perhaps the DOS 3.0 ones) used a daughter card in the 6530 socket with a 6532 (which is generic) and an external ROM. Dunno what's wrong with your father's drive, but if you can get in front of it, turn it on and watch for flashing lights. In many cases, that can narrow down the problem to a few chips. If it doesn't flash at all (i.e., it acts totally dead), that helps, too. Likewise if you can power it on, "talk to it" (read the error channel), but not read or write drives. Depending on the fault, it might actually be easier to fix than replace. Most "technicians" these days only know how to swap out entire boards or entire boxes. If it _is_ a 6530, that's kind of a problem... It's theoretically possible to fabricate a replacement, but I'm not sure the CBM community knows enough about that particular model to describe a functional replacement. A 4040? Sure. Maybe even an old-fashioned 8250. Not positive about the 8250LP. Cheers, -ethan _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=174&refer…

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Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: 8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64

by semlj001＠hotmail.com

Ethan, I'll find out the part that the technician thought was suspect. If I haven't explained myself clearly enough, the 8250 LP is a double disk drive that connects to a commodore 64. Thanks, Lance. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: 8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:20:47 -0700 (PDT) --- Lance S <semlj001(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > The reason that I'm looking for it is that my father has been using his > 8250 to run some software and his has broken. He's had a technichian > look at it and some parts are needed. It would be easier to buy another. What parts? Drives? Power Supply? Main board? The main board is about the only thing that really is hard to replace. I don't know what specific disk drives shipped with the 8250LP, but if it's the drives themselves, it's probably possible to find an equivalent. > As I understand, 1541 drives read / write in a different format to the > 8250 drives. You do have the nub of it. Completely incompatible. > The 8250 is able to write 1Mb to each disk which I don't think > the 1541 can do. The 1541 has half the tracks and half the heads (and less than 25% total space per diskette) Good luck in your search. All of my PET hardware is older than that. I have never even seen one up close, but they are out there. -ethan _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp

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5.25" SMD drives

by aek＠spies.com

The manual for Segate/CDC's 41097J (97500-11G) and 41201J (97500-12G) is now up at www.spies.com/aek/pdf/seagate/83327290-A_ST41097J_SMD.pdf Thanks to Dave Jenner for the original.

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Fwd: Re: 8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64

by semlj001＠hotmail.com

The reason that I'm looking for it is that my father has been using his 8250 to run some software and his has broken. He's had a technichian look at it and some parts are needed. It would be easier to buy another. As I understand, 1541 drives read / write in a different format to the 8250 drives. The 8250 is able to write 1Mb to each disk which I don't think the 1541 can do. Lance. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: 8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:06:55 -0700 (PDT) --- Gary Dean Hildebrand <ghldbrd(a)ccp.com> wrote: > Lance S writes: > > > I am looking for an 8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64. > > Why do you want that drive? Maybe he has some 8250 disks to read? Perhaps some (custom?) software that needs a disk larger than a 1541 to work? > It is designed for the PET series, and has > the full blown IEEE-488 interface, which the C=64 lacks. He didn't say, but he could have one already. I have one for the C-64 and one for the VIC-20. > So you'd need the adapter on the 64 as well, and I bet they are harder to > find than WMD in Iraq.. It's possible to build your own with a VLSI I/O chip (6520/6522/6526) and a couple of buffers. That plus a ROM is what's on my VIC-20 IEEE adapter. IIRC, the drivers are a 75160/75161 pair, but there are a couple of options. AFAIK, there is firmware for _some_ IEEE adapter on funet. Not sure which one without looking. > I'd just get a couple of 1541's and daisy chain them together on the > port, along with the printer or printer adapter. If you're wanting > double sided disks, then go with a 128 and 1571 drives, and then you can > play cp/m as well. If he wants to move up to a 128, that would work. Personally, I _have_ a 128, and I'm more likely to fire up a C-64 that it, largely due to experience and personal comfort. -ethan _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp

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"The Mark-8 was an Intel 8008" was Re: I thought the Univac was expensive

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I have used other pics to sell something identical but I always mention >it. I >don't think that a problem generally. I agree that the simple fact of reusing pics isn't a huge issue. But he ALSO reused text... which also isn't a huge issue by itself (I bought a very nice Netopia router that simply used the info page from Netopia's web site, photo text and all). BUT... this guy slightly modified the text, in relation to the "value" of the unit. The original web site's text claimed the value at $12,000... he changed it to $17,000 on the ebay listing. So right there he is being less than honest. Also, which is the unit for sale? The Mark-8 or the 5100 precursor? The original web site seems to indicate they are two different units simply being displayed next to each other. But the ebay listing looks like it is trying to say the Mark-8 is for sale. All in all... I would have to think this is a bogus listing, or at the very least, a dishonest listing (ie: maybe there is a Mark-8 for sale, but it is probably beaten to peices and totally non functional) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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"The Mark-8 was an Intel 8008" was Re: I thought the Univac was expensive

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/3/03 10:04:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mail.list(a)analog-and-digital-solutions.com writes: > > Apparently eBay must have felt the auctions might be fraudulent > also. They just terminated every one of them. > I see that. I reported it to eBay as suspicious and worth watching last night. I see they though it was suspect too. Paxton Astoria, OR

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"The Mark-8 was an Intel 8008" was Re: I thought the Univac was expensive

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/3/03 9:28:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com writes: > Not all that use other pictures are trying to be > dishonest. Try asking a question of the seller. I don't think you will get a response. One of the people bidding over $2000 on a typewriter withdrew his bid because he could not get in touch with the seller. I have used other pics to sell something identical but I always mention it. I don't think that a problem generally. But with this seller I think these sales bear close watching or just not participating in. The first few items this guy sold were high value baseball cards. Once feedback on those come through we shall see if he is still on eBay. Paxton Astoria, OR

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"The Mark-8 was an Intel 8008" was Re: I thought the Univac was expensive

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Not all that use other pictures are trying to be dishonest. I came across one case where I recognized the picture of the item I'd bid on. I immediately wrote the fellow and asked what was up. I said that he didn't have a picture but he couldn't see any difference between the one he had and the picture. He was right, when I got the board, it was in great shape. Still, I told him that if you use another's picture, you should make a statement, such as "Looks identical to this unit" or something. Dwight >From: "Wayne M. Smith" <wmsmith(a)earthlink.net> > >>> It is an interesting batch of sales. If you look at their >>> other listings >>> there is an Intel iPSC, a MASPAR and what I think is an IBM >>> 5100 listed with the a >>> strange title "The Mark-8 was an Intel 8008" listed in "antiques." >>> >>> >http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=12&item=254275 >7186 >> >> I, too, am inclined that the seller has a problem with decimals. I >think they >> are very unfamiliar with eBay, having just registered. The ads are in >the >> wrong categories. The descriptions are not what would sell a piece of >equipment. >> Also seller in Japan, listed on the Australian eBay site with shipping >in >> misquoted US Dollars. I suspect a Newbie or possibly fraudulent (low >probability >> but worth being very careful) >> >> Does anyone recognize the pictures as being from somewhere else on the >WEB. >> Many Japanese are collectors so it could be an original collection. >The high >> valuations lead me to think it might be a collector. > >This crook has posted a picture from the Smithsonian exhibit, swiped >from a UC Davis site: > >http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~csclub/museum/items/merk_8_ibm_5100.html

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Logitech Logimouse R-5

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I'm looking for a Logitech Logimouse R-5 and software. I need it to go with AutoCAD v1.4 (that's v1.4, not R14) on my Otrona Attache 8:16. Alternatively, can anyone suggest a compatible solution using another mouse. Bob

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otrona parts?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I finally remembered to pull out my Attache 8:16 last night. There _is_ a serial number on the outside, under the right front corner, below the "Attache" name (mine is 7840). It's stamped on a small metal plate and glued in a shallow recess, so it could have been lost. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 10:43 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: otrona parts? I've been playing with the Otrana Attache that I found last week. <snip> FWIW I took it apart and checked it this morning and I noticed something funny. The no serial number anywhere on the outside of it but inside EVERYTHING has the serial number on it. The INSIDE of the case, the monitor, both disk drives, the power supply, the sheet metal, etc are all numbered 4616 but there's no number anywhere on the outside. Joe

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I thought the Univac was expensive

by David.Kane＠aph.gov.au

I had to laugh at the seller's comment "...Must Sell. Low Reserve." http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3033449003&categor y=294 David

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eBay's new page layout

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Damn, eBay's new page layout just hit the US site this evening. There is nothing so constant as change.

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Fraud in the making was Re: "The Mark-8 was an Intel 8008"

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Thanks to Google Pictures I found the pics of the iPSC and the MASPAR here: <A HREF="http://www.futurebots.com/cpu.htm">DAN'S ANTIQUE COMPUTER COLLECTION</A> It sure looks like they were stolen from here along with more text. I would say these sales could be fraudulent and one should be careful. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Soroc was: new finds

by yakowenk＠cs.unc.edu

I don't remember them beeping with every keypress. Is it a C-530 with "key click" enabled? Bill. On 30 Jun 2003, Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jun 2003, Bill Yakowenko wrote: > > > Speaking of which, how many Sorocs are still out there? Were they as > > common in the rest of the world as they seemed in my corner of it? I > > hardly ever hear of them anymore, even on e-bay. > > It was the first dumb terminal I ever got (way back before I became a > "collector"). They are not terribly common, bordering on rare. It's a > nice terminal. I like the beep sound it makes whenever you press a > key.

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Kaypro systems for sale

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

I'm passing this along in case someone might be interested: Daniel (natalierowe(a)earthlink.net) has a Kaypro II (boxed) and a Kaypro 4, both in working condition and both for sale. Please contact him at the address above. Besides passing this offer along, I have nothing to do with it. Erik www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum The Vintage Computer Forum

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HP85B Electronic disc

by rhahm＠nycap.rr.com

Hello, How do I delete or purge all files in the ED ":D000" without turning the machine on and off. Is there a command to empty the edisc od all files? I am making backup copies of discs and storing the disc contents in ":D000" when I copy a new disc all the files from the previous disc are stil in the ED. Thanks, Bob

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8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64

by semlj001＠hotmail.com

I am looking for an 8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64. Second hand is fine. If anyone could help me out it would be greatly appreciated. Lance. _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=174&refer…

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Fluke 1802 pod...

by jrr＠flippers.com

Last August you mentioned in a posting that you were looking for the 1802 pod...are you still? I have a NOS one I believe in my inventory. John :-#)# www.flippers.com John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

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Composite video to TV

by r.mueller＠fz-juelich.de

I have tried this twice with some luck in both cases. In both cases the computer was an Atari 800XL. One monitor started as a Black and white TV able to operate from 12 volts or line power. It was easy because it generated 12 volts with a transformer when running from the line. The signal went into the contrast control, not the wiper terminal but the "hot" stationary terminal. If you have enough signal level this will work directly but you can try getting in before the video amplifier or simply put in a small amplifier between the new video input and the contrast control (trivial with today's fast opamps) You can steal the power from somewhere in the TV. The other case was more interesting because it involved one of those nasty TV s running without a proper line isolating transformer. Here I went to an optical coupler based on a fast HP model coupler for analog signals (I believe these reach 10 MHz with some effort.) I needed a tiny transformer to provide drive for the LED on the computer side of the optocoupler (the computer output is not enough). This was setup to use a slight bias current at zero input voltage from the computer and increasing light level (more drive to the LED) with increasing video level. The main trick in all this is some extra frequency compensation to delay the fall-off of the signal at the useful higher frequencies (you should preserve as much as possible at least to 6 MHz and even a bit more if possible). The receiving end of the optocoupler was configured to serve as an amplifier to get enough signal for the contrast control. The B&W version gave a quite good picture containing most of the sharpness you might expect from a proper monochrome monitor and I liked it much better than the green things I was using at the time with other computers. The color version with the optocoupler was fairly satisfactory and I was happy to use it when a color monitor was simply too expensive to justify. Text was adequately sharp at 40 characters per line. Don't forget, the color still had to go through a PAL decoder with loss of sharpness. Incidentally, PAL is inferior to NTSC for this kind of job because the fundamental idea of PAL is the mixing of two adjacent lines to correct for level dependent phase shifts in transmitted pictures. The idea is great for TV but poor for computer work. Narrow horizontal lines simply suffer from this mixing. Still, the overall result was "good enough". HOWEVER; PLEASE OBSERVE ALL WARNINGS IN EARLIER MESSAGES. These transformerless sets kill the foolish. If you live in 230 volt land, the risk is still worse. Bob

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craig

by Hubert2752＠aol.com

Used to work there. They filed Chapter 11 in 1997 or 98. I was there at the end. If you have any questions let me know. Name was purchased by an electronics importer in Miami, FL.

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I thought the Univac was expensive

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Anonymous Coward may have mentioned these words: > > Who's got an extra 10+ kilobucks to start bidding on it to find the > reserve??? > > >It doesn't have a reserve on it. Ah, then the listing lied in another way: "... good condition. Must Sell, Low Reserve." as was also mentioned previously in the thread... Must be the only one in existance... :-/ (sure it is...) Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers zmerch(a)30below.com What do you do when Life gives you lemons, and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????

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Nortel Meridian 1 MAX Enterprise ACD Unit Chassis FREE for pickup in San Mateo

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

I just got the word this morning that this is done. I was told that a salvage company that was picking up stuff there either is or has picked this up. To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Nortel Meridian 1 MAX Enterprise ACD Unit Chassis FREE for pickup in San Mateo FREE for pick up in San Mateo, CA Pretty serious VMEbus Telecom Chassis Nortel Meridian 1 MAX Enterprise ACD Unit Chassis ... Never Used We purchased this for the two boards, which have already arrived, and didn't need the chassis. http://www.analog-and-digital-solutions.com/temp-graphics/Nortel_Meridian_1… http://www.analog-and-digital-solutions.com/temp-graphics/Nortel_Meridian_1… http://www.analog-and-digital-solutions.com/temp-graphics/Nortel_Meridian_1… located at ... 2041 Pioneer Ct. Suite 204 San Mateo, CA 94403 Here are some phone numbers to call to schedule pickup 650 548- 5202 - Steve Wood (First Choice) 650 548-5224 - Ann McKercher 650-548-5240 - Bill Welling hours of operation are 9:00am to 4:00pm PST M-F Enjoy.

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Reading PDP-8 paper tapes

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

A long-time acquaintance of mine (Graham Toal, whom some of you may know) has access to a collection of PDP-8 paper tape which wants reading. Unfortunately some of it is in the care of the Royal Musuem in Edinburgh, who won't let it out of their sight. Does anyone -- preferably in the UK -- have a paper tape reader that could be hooked up to a modern machine (eg a laptop) to read the tapes in the museum, and which they'd be willing to lend? To see what Graham and friends are doing, take a look at http://history.dcs.ed.ac.uk/ It's worth a look even if you're not interested in Edinburgh. I know Graham reads the list, so replies here or to me are fine. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Well, I was at Fry's in CA...

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/1/2003 11:58:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, teoz(a)neo.rr.com writes: << Hey if your lazy like me you will find places on the net to mailorder anything and have it dropped off at your house for cheaper then what you can buy it new with tax at the store. I would die without www.google.com. On a side note does anybody else get the feeling that UPS, USPS, and FEDEX love EBAY because of all the $1.99 treasures you find there that cost $5-XXX or more for shipping to get it to your house? >> oh yes. I saw a nice PS/2 model 80 on ebay with the blue lightning upgrade and SCSI drives and pretty much maxed out. It was very cheap, but shipping would have been cost prohibitive.

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Western Periphs TC-151 docs?

by aek＠spies.com

Does anyone have the hardware of logic manuals for the TC-151? It is a qbus controller for unformatted 9trk drives, and I'm trying to determine if it supports 18 or 22 bit addressing

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New finds: enough Torch stuff to sink a battleship

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi Tony, > No idea... What (if any) chips are missing from your Stickleback, other > than the Ethernet chipset? I haven't had time to open the case today, but a glance the other day didn't show anything big around the VME bus interface; it looked to all be 16 pin chips and the like. I got an email from the guy today saying the following: [ Not a theory - I know that one is the original prototype. The VME interface [ didn't work on that PCB issue. I've an idea that it's got a prototype EPROM [ in it that doesn't require a key disk. IIRC on that box of Eproms I gave you [ there is a "Simon" eprom - that's a debug boot EPROM that doesn't use the [ key disk system Interesting. I noticed that Simon ROM and wondered what it did :-) > I thought that at least one of the monitors actually started by combining > the syncs to make composite sync (and thus you could feed composite sync > in on one of the pins). I will have to dig out the schematics... that could well be true - what I thought was a sync splitter board in that 725 turned out to just be some buffer circuitry; the output was still composite. How someone managed to blow the fuses for the RGB and sync lines I don't know... > The monitor I am thinking of is almost entirely a Sony chassis, with a > little Torch PCB at the input carrying the 8 pin DIN socket and > connectors to the monitor video board (flat in the bottom) and the speaker. that's what the 10" ones are like inside. I pulled the case the other day to see what the connections were but didn't need to go any further than the small PCB carrying the connector so I don't know what's lurking deeper within (yet) > I think that 'NC' pin is for the interrupt input from the touch switch. there's some bodged circuitry (cut tracks, extra capacitor and a desoldered resistor etc.) in the corner of the board near the video circuitry. Maybe that's something to do with the power-mechanism bypass (or might well be something else entirely) > Watch out -- if the NICd goes open-circuit, then the clock > chip might end up getting 12V.... nice! :-) [SASI controller] > One question? Is there a ROM or EPROM on this board connected to the 1MHz > bus side of things? The reason I ask is that there's some feature of the > BBC micro where you can get it to execute code from a ROM in one of the > 1MHz bus address spaces after a reset, if you hold one of the interrupt > lines low or something. I wonder if that's where it gets the hard disk > drivers from... No, not on the SASI board. There's a Torch ROM on the Xebec controller, but the machine was locking up with the Xebec board disconnected and just the SASI board in place. Unless the presence of the SASI board is enough for the machine to think the Xebec board's there too whether it is or not. No idea what would happen then... > The Torch _SCSI_ interface just has a normal sideways EPROM (SCSIFS) in > one of the Beeb mainboard sockets, BTW... Hmm. I need to open up cases again. I remember the 725 box having a "Unix host" ROM, standard Basic / OS / DFS, and the ECO Econet ROM. Will go digging tomorrow... cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Reading PDP-8 paper tapes

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 1, 11:43, Dwight K. Elvey wrote: > >From: "Peter Turnbull" <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> > > > >Does anyone -- preferably in the UK -- have a paper tape reader that > >could be hooked up to a modern machine (eg a laptop) to read the tapes > >in the museum, and which they'd be willing to lend? > I don't live close enough but it isn't too hard to > connect, even a parallel paper tape reader. I have > one that does folded paper tape that I connected to > my lap top's parallel printer port. > Dwight Indeed. Anything like that would be fine. Just please don't suggest a Teletype ASR33; I have one anyway. Besides, I'd not consider it very portable even though mine has casters. It's also slow, sprocket-fed, and being 20mA current loop and 110 baud, needs additional intefacing. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Modifying a B&W TV for composite video input

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

I have read a lot about the SWTPC TV Typewriter, and I am interested in how people modified a black and white TV for a video monitor. I have an old black and white set that I thought would be fun to modify for use as a video monitor. Now, granted, I don't really need another composite monitor, I have plenty of old Apple monitors that will do the same thing, I just thought it would be fun, since it would be a challenge to find where to input the signal and how to do it. I found the PDF of part of the SWTPC TV Typewriter manual on a web site, and it explains the process, although not in great detail, and references a circuit diagram of what needed to be added, but the diagram is nowhere to be found. Does anyone have any instructions or hints that they may be able to give me? Has anyone done this before? Any advice would be appreciated. Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

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Atari Transputer Workstation for sale

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> I know a source for a complete ATW800 in the UK area if anyone is > interested. They are asking 250 UKP for it (Cambridge area). Let me > know, condition is untested. I wish I could go for it, but since I am > across the pond, it is just too costly :-( Darn, I was just reading about these about a week ago and thought they seemed like nice machines and I'd probably never see one. Plus I live in Cambridge (well, about ten miles away) :-) Can't justify the cost though unfortunately! cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Acorn (Was Re: Reading PDP-8 paper tapes)

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> PS My main 'beeb' project before I transferred to VLSI CAD was > the Teletext adapter. I found the source code recently if anyone > wants it. I can't see Acorn giving me a hard time over > releasing it after all these years... Please ... 8^)= Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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New finds: enough Torch stuff to sink a battleship

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Rob, > Brackets on mine: yep, mine's the same. do you know the history of your machine? Just curious as we now know of two machines with the same case (apart from the lettering) and almost identical internals - just pondering whether both yours and my machine were prototypes and yours escaped the workshop somehow! (the guy I got my machines from says he knows for sure the Triple X system I have was a prototype, but not much is known about my other two systems apart from all three coming from the Torch workshop) > they do look a bit ropey... Check out the mounting for the UHF connector. On mine it's a mangled bit of aluminium with a cardboard insulator underneath... > > Mine appears to be complete - it has the modem (connects somewhere to the I take it your modem has the round old-style plug on it? I have two different sorts of spare modems (two of each) that came with this lot and even though I'm never going to use a modem I'd like to put the right type back in the machine. > ok, see earlier picture. it doesn't say atlas on it, so presume it's an > early one... Oh well. I've since found a Unix installation guide amongst the stuff I got which might be what you need. Depends what of the install floppies I have still have readable data on them I suppose! > It's got a Torch SASI board in it, so it says, with another interface board > underneath that I can't quite see, with the drives under that. likely the same Xebec board underneath that I have then. > You should be able to get to basic by holding "B" down on a hard boot (ctrl > + reset). My machine has the standard OS, a standard BBC Basic, a standard > DFS rom, and MCP 1.01 AT. thanks - I'll give that a try. > I've not powered it up yet .. I know it did work, but think last time I > tried (after moving house) it didn't boot. Will try again later, when got > a bit more time. mine makes that wonderful "jet engine warming up" noise and smells of warm dust when powered on :-) I found another doc today the suggests holding down caps-lock whilst powering on will do a manual boot so I'll try that tomorrow and see what happens. cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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DSM (digital standard MUMPS) + 9 track tape units

by luc＠e2t.be

If you are looking for a tape drive I might have some... I am just back from my old stuff warehouse, looking for this DSM tape... At the moment I did not find him - I am sure I have it somewhere but the place starts to look like a junkyard... I have to get rid of some old stuff I have in multiples.... Concerning tape drives: I think I saw there: 1 Kennedy 9300 tape unit (could not move, too heavy) 2 Kennedy 9000 tape units (45 inch/sec units 800/1600 bpi) 3 or more Kennedy 9600 units - autoloaders - I am not sure about the density they write plus all the service and maintenance manuals of this units and some alignment tools 2 Pertec autoloaders (I did not saw the manuals) 2 Digital TU10 units (this are real 800bpi dino's) - I am not sure about the controllers for this guy's (what kind of controller need they?) for this 9600 units I seem to have a PC controller too (a least one of them is connected to an IBM pc) As far as I know all units were working the day we put them out of order (somewhere in the early 90ies) (the TU10's might need some maintenance, I am not sure about them) I intend to keep a few units for myself (unless someone makes me an offer I can't refuse...) What's taking up a lot of place are all my decwriters... I have: 3 Decwriter I (output only) 5 Decwriter II consoles 4 Decwriter III consoles They might need some maintenance - I 'll check them and repair them if someone is interested... something more recent?) I found a few very complete looking Q bus systems with 9-track controller (will be Emulex or Dilog I think) They are realtive new (a least for a PDP11) - it are mentec cabinets with mentec processor (11/73) 4MB on board, SCSI disc controllers and a lot of I/O I am sure they all have DSM on their drives. (I never used an other Digital OS) There is an utility in DSM that lets you make new distribution tapes, so if they start I can make as many tapes as I want (if I can find a few tapes somewhere...) gr. Luc -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Sergio Pedraja Cabo Verzonden: maandag 30 juni 2003 11:10 Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Onderwerp: RE: DSM (digital standard MUMPS) > > I don't know him, but many users of SIMH would agree to have one > > copy of DSM-11 available. Myself one of them, just by the way ;-) > > > > Other old PDP software is welcome too. > Likewise. I am fairly close to Luc, so I could go and get the tape, > read it into an image here, copy it so he has an extra copy, take them > back, and send out the image... Great, great, great, Fred :-) > That said... dang, I *still* need (access to) a working 9-track 800bpi > unit... anyone? In Holland, or within a day's drive from there? I can't help by now. I have one PERTEC and one SCSI tape unit pending to pick up. Thanks and Greetings Sergio

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