- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Shameless plug alert! I've got a few items in my latest crop of auctions that may be of interest to those of you running MicroVAX, MicroPDP, or IBM PS/2 Model 70 or 80 systems. First off, there's an IBM 'Blue Lightning' CPU upgrade kit, unused and still in its original packaging. This takes a 386 PS/2 system up to IBM's 486DLC. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2740760908 Second is another Maxtor XT2190 drive, which I'm told is the same as a DEC RD54. Don't know for sure what shape it's in, but I recall it was a pull from an old PC (which got scrapped). http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2740802251 Finally, there's a DEC RRD40 CD-ROM drive (the one with the psychotic D-sub 15 connector on its case). http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2740796077 There's other non-classic (and non-computer) stuff as well, if you're curious. No reserve on anything, some stuff listed as 'buy-it-now.' Thanks for looking. Anyway, hit E-pay and do a seller search -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

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OT: Realtek; Was Re: Windoze crash (was Re: Well, I was at Fry's in CA...)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> wrote: > Interesting. I have had very odd performance with Realtek cards on FreeBSD. Um, you have read the comments near the head of /usr/src/sys/pci/if_rl.c, haven't you? -Frank McConnell

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OT: Realtek; Was Re: Windoze crash (was Re: Well, I was at Fry's in CA...)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Mark Firestone <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com> wrote: > Aww. They aren't the worst cheapo card I've been forced to buy in my > career, as in they actually work, if slowly. > > What do you want for ?9 I just get something of a chuckle out of people who figure all Ethernet cards are alike. Perhaps they have forgotten the lessons of the 3Com 3C50[01]. -Frank McConnell

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Older wordprocessing software (XyWrite)

by elf＠ucsd.edu

On Tue, 08-Jul-2003, @ 08:20:50 -0400, Gene Ehrich wrote: >What ever happened to XyWrite, was it acquired by another company? Yeah - something like that. XyWrite's history of commercial development took a few odd turns, and suffered the consequences of some marketing mishaps. A web page w/some decent info on XyWrite can be found @ http://www.escape.com/~yesss/_xywhat.htm (This is not my web site, BTW.) Regards, Eric

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Looking for new maintainer for DECVAX.ORG and PDP11.ORG

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Hey, everyone. I resubscribed to cctalk tonight. I'm way too swamped lately (in fact, for the past year or two) to adequately maintain the PDP11.ORG and DECVAX.ORG domain(s) and web sites. I'm looking for someone, fairly involved with the community, who would like to take over ownership of the domains, web sites, etc. I can keep hosting the DNS (if you wish), or provide secondary/backup DNS if needed. I just don't have the time to work on them anymore, and have moved away from older DEC stuff. My only "requirement" is that whomever takes over this project (whether it be one person, or two people; one for VAX and one for PDP) is that you put some effort into it, that you be knowledgeable about the subject matter, and that you don't just let the sites languish. Getting reimbursed for the $30 I've spent on renewing the domains this year would be nice, but not required. 8-) I've also got about a truck-full (maybe a station wagon load, maybe less) of old DEC documentation, handbooks, software on paper tape, a disc pack or two... Jeff Sharp has seen my garage. 8-) I can't ship any of it (unless you provide a FedEx or UPS account number to bill to), and would like to avoid throwing it in the trash. At least 3-4 "storage tubs" of manuals and documentation, a mixed VMS 4/5 "orange wall", and various other things. If you're interested, please contact me by email. I don't have time for DEC/PDP stuff anymore, and need the space in my garage back - but want it all to go to someone worthwhile. Bill -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

22 years, 9 months

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New Finds: SWTPC :-)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

A friend of mine picked up about 30 boxs of electronics parts, data books, evaluation kits, parts samples, etc at a local flea market last week. Today I was helping him go through the stuff and I spotted some familar looking boards. I picked one up and remarked that it looked like something for the SWTPCs. Then THE very next board that I picked up was marked "SWTPC" so I knew I was onto somehting good. I dug through the boxs and got 6+ boxs of disks with software for the FLEX OS (used on the SWTPCs) and found six circuit boards for the SWTPCs. Here's the list: (1) SWTPC MP-09 - Replacement CPU board for the SWTPC computers, uses 6809 CPU. This is a MP-09, not an A or B. (2) A Southeastern Micro Systems DDC-16 Floppy Drive Controller. (3) A Tanner Computers SS-50 64k memory board, uses 2716 EPROMs or 6116 S RAMs. This one has the S RAMS installed. (4) A SWTPC MP-R 2716 EPROM burner card. (5) A SWTPC MP-T Interrupt Timer board. It's implemented with a 5009 programmable counter/ divider and 6820 PIA ICs and provides software selectable interrupts of 1 usec, 10 usec, 100 usec, 1 msec, 10 msec, 20 msec, 100 msec, 1 sec, 10 sec, 100 sec, 1 min, 10 min or 1 hour. (6) A Gimix 2 port Serial Interface board. Fits the SS-30 socket and uses two MC68B50s. I found everything else described on Michal Holley's SWTPC site but not this one. Does anyone have any details on it? Pretty good haul, specailly considering that I didn't have to go anywhere and find it :-) Joe

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OT: Realtek; Was Re: Windoze crash (was Re: Well, I was at Fry's in CA...)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote: > On 8 Jul 2003, Frank McConnell wrote: > > I just get something of a chuckle out of people who figure all > > Ethernet cards are alike. Perhaps they have forgotten the lessons of > > the 3Com 3C50[01]. > > What lesson was that? I thought they were fine. At least I never had > problems with them. I am pleased to be able to say that I no longer remember the details, but the problem was something like that the card had enough room in its buffer to hold no more than one received packet. If you sent it another one before the processor on its end got around to reading the packet out of it, one packet or the other got dropped (I'm thinking the one in the buffer got dropped so that the new one could be buffered). If you didn't want any packets to get dropped, you needed to be careful to not overrun the buffer by having more than one packet outstanding. Keep in mind that this was 1987 or so and PC clock speeds were right around Ethernet bus speed, so the PC couldn't get the packets out of the buffer as quickly as the network could put them there. If someone else out there remembers more, please do feel free to jump in. -Frank McConnell

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American Automation EZ-Pro development system

by arlen＠acm.org

This microprocessor development system dating from the early 80s includes a hardware in-circuit emulator for the Motorola 68HC11. I'd like to get it running but I have no documents or software. Can anyone help? The main box is model number AA-547 and I believe it hooks up by serial cable to a host PC. Besides the external ICE hardware, there's also a small prom programmer box hanging off the system. Thanks in advance, Arlen Michaels

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Wanted: RL02 Working...

by cvendel＠att.net

Hi everyone, I found a place on the East Coast selling RL02's and RLV12's for $120, anyone in the NJ/NY/CT/MA/RI area (basically anyone in like a 3hr driving radius of me) have an RL02 they want to sell cheap??? I'd like to pick the unit up and save myself the $100 shipping charge (plus the worries of it bouncing around in the back of a UPS or Fedex Ground truck!) So I'd be willing to pay someone in my area $100 for a drive and $20 for an RLV12 if you have them and they are known working, please let me know, thanks!!! Also I'm still looking for an RM05 or CDC9976 300MB Disk Pak drive, if someone in my area has one that I could take on loan for 1 week and return for a $$$ Rental Fee, I'd be willing to work something out with them. Thanks, Curt

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Older wordprocessing software

by evan＠flextech.net

Jules, I still have most of those old versions of WordPerfect 5.1 DOS, WordPerfect 6.0 for both DOS and Windows (the file formats are identical, BTW), MS Office 4.3 for Win3x, AmiPro/Samna, and even (gasp) MultiMate. I have *several* copies of the WordPerfect 5.1 manuals, along with some old Lotus 1-2-3 v2.3 and Harvard Graphics manuals (and the software for those also). Personally, I was a WordPerfect aficionado (because of the DOS/WIN file format matching). Hated Word, and used AmiPro/Samna for legal documents (best on the planet back then). Most are on 5-1/4", a few are on 3-1/2", and Office is on CD. Let me know privately what you need and we'll work out a way to get it to you. Evan Pauley ---------- You wrote: Hi all, perhaps pusing the boundaries of off-topicness here a little, but... I'm taking suggestions for wordprocessing software to run on an older 486 laptop (1994, so almost within the 10 year limit!) that's running Windows 3.11 ... I still use the machine for a bit of wordprocessing ocassionally (such as it is with Windows Write), and better software would be nice. The laptop's handy for taking stuff down on before formatting things 'properly' on a more modern desktop. I remember Ami Pro being quite reasonable on a similar spec desktop machine, but my copy went to tape years ago and around half of the old tapes of mine that I found recently are no longer readable :-( Suggestions of alternative software welcome though... cheers Jules

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OS uptimes

by phil＠ultimate.com

> From: Peter Hicks <pwh(a)poggs.co.uk> > However, this beats all of them: > > Uptime is 1048 days, 12 hours, 12 minutes > cat6500-1> > > This is a Catalyst 6506 switch ... Somehow an embeded box that doesn't have to run arbitrary and buggy programs seems like cheating! Here's the uptime on a old VAXstation just before a scheduled power outage: $ sho sys VAX/VMS V6.1 on node BUMMER 10-MAY-2002 16:02:42.38 Uptime 1099 02:42:54 1099 days. Admittedly it spends most of it's time sitting quietly in a corner. Looking at: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html The top 3 current entries appear to show 1500+ The top is 1751 on a BSD/OS system. The FAQ indicates they can't detect more than 497 days of uptime on some operating systems. Another site is: http://www.uptimes.nu/index.php?area=statistics But the highest uptime is suspect: "31y 335d 20h 15m (FreeBSD 4.8-RC)" since FreeBSD 4.8 came out within the last year! -phil

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SCSI bit-banging

by emu＠ecubics.com

Hi all, I guess we all remember this boards attached to ataris/commodores/apples, where we had a PIA/parallel port to attach some of the nice SCSI disks. However, I don't find anything about this old bit-banging interfaces on the net. Any links ? cheers

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Kinda OT: DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP Memory

by zmerch＠30below.com

I don't think this machine is *quite* 10 years old yet, but it's pretty close -- and it's 'different' enough that hopefully I won't get flamed... I have a DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP which is currently sitting idle -- it has Tru64 Unix 5.0 on it currently, and 64Meg of RAM. I was thinking of putting Alpha VMS 7.1 instead, for to start learning VMS again (someday... :-O ) and I recall saying that Alpha VMS is much happier in more than 64M Ram, so I was thinking of upgrading it. I do know that it uses 'standard' 72-pin Parity FPM Memory - but what I don't know is: how finicky is the machine? Will just any Parity memory work, or is it limited to certain manufacturers? I have a supplier that has used 32M Parity 72-pin FPM memory for $6/stick -- a decent price comparatively - I've seen it at $30+ per stick, which would make a memory upgrade cost more than the machine itself... I have no idea what they have for manufacturers of the memory - these guys prolly don't, either. It's a reputable company (I've ordered from them before) but they don't get too deep with the specifics. (WRT another OT thread: They have 3Com 905C-TX NICS for $10 each...) Should I take the chance and order the memory, or would it be foolhardy to do so? Thanks, Roger "Merch" Merchberger

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Kontron LA 32A hard drive?

by owad＠applefritter.com

I have Kontron LA 32A Logic Analyzer that complains about no boot disk on startup. It has two drive bays, the first of which has a floppy drive and the second of which is empty. Does anybody know what software I'd need to get this running or would be willing to make copies? Thanks, Tom Applefritter www.applefritter.com

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Items available

by Joel.E.Bradley＠syntegra.com

I have the following items available. Please e-mail me directly at joel.bradley(a)comcast.net if interested: Sony PIC-1000 Magic Link with software (PDA circa 1994) Control Data Corporation Cyber 960 Framed and Matted photograph (approx 24" x 20") Control Data Corporation Cyber 960 Matted photograph, No Frame (approx 24" x 20") Control Data Corporation 3 - Ring Binder (many available) Control Data Corporation White Coffee Mugs (individual or set available) Control Data Corporation Legal Pad portfolio, brown leather-like material. NICE! Microsoft Excel 2.2 for Macintosh - MINT IN BOX, still shrinkwrapped! ------ Joel

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Older wordprocessing software

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi all, perhaps pusing the boundaries of off-topicness here a little, but... I'm taking suggestions for wordprocessing software to run on an older 486 laptop (1994, so almost within the 10 year limit!) that's running Windows 3.11 ... I still use the machine for a bit of wordprocessing ocassionally (such as it is with Windows Write), and better software would be nice. The laptop's handy for taking stuff down on before formatting things 'properly' on a more modern desktop. I remember Ami Pro being quite reasonable on a similar spec desktop machine, but my copy went to tape years ago and around half of the old tapes of mine that I found recently are no longer readable :-( Suggestions of alternative software welcome though... cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

C>Copy con foo.txt<CR> Foo bar baz<CR> Testing^Z<CR> C> -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Pope [mailto:bpope@wordstock.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:08 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Older wordprocessing software And thusly Joe spake: > > >What about DisplayWrite?? :) > > > >*ducking and sprinting for cover* > > > >Cheers, > > > >Bryan > > > > Geez, why not just use Edlin? :-/ > > Joe Hey I forgot about that wonderful creation! But then there is also: C:>copy < document.txt (I think it goes this way...) Cheers, Bryan

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by elf＠ucsd.edu

On Mon, Jul 7, 08:36:00, 2003, Jules Richardson wrote: >I remember Ami Pro being quite reasonable on a similar spec desktop machine, >but my copy went to tape years ago and around half of the old tapes of mine >that I found recently are no longer readable :-( > >Suggestions of alternative software welcome though... XyWrite comes to mind: low resource requirements, yet oodles of formatting options. It takes a bit of time and practice to build up some speedy chops, so it may not be the panacea you're looking for. I do know, however, that XyWrite's format can be successfully converted into (many of) today's common word processing formats. Regards, Eric

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TI 990 Page and simulator

by jbdigriz＠dragonsweb.org

Dunno if everyone has seen this, but there is a fairly new 990 web page up by David PItts, who has written a simulator and cross-development tools for Linux and Windows. It might be interesting to take something like this, or M.E.S.S. or one of the other simulators, and reimplement the DX10 4A dev tools. Maybe somebody might even still have them around somewhere. Hmmm. http://www.cozx.com/~dpitts/ti990.html later, jbdigriz

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iUP-201 PC software

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Tim If someone else doesn't get you anything, I can write something for you. I think you can easily drive it from the printer port with an adapter cable( I've not totaled the signals needed ). Some of the newer boards require sequencing that I don't have information on but for cards that program things like 1702A's or 2708's, I have info on the sequences needed. Dwight >X-Authentication-Warning: huey.classiccmp.org: mailnull set sender to cctalk-admin using -f >From: "Tim Shaw" <T.Shaw(a)corp.amc.edu.au> >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: iUP-201 PC software > >Hi Robert >I found your request for modules for a iUP201 Universal Programmer. >I have just dusted off a iUP-201 we have had sitting on a shelf for as long >as anyone here can remember. >I cant help you with modules but I would be very grateful if you could help >me with software to drive it from a PC. >I need to use it to read the contents of a 2732 EPROM from an engine volume >generator I hope to update. > >regards > >Tim Shaw T.Shaw(a)corp.amc.edu.au >Senior Technical Officer (Elect) +61-3-63354805 Ph >Technical Services +61-3-63266493 Fax >Australian Maritime College www.amc.edu.au

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Kinda OT: DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP Memory

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I don't think this machine is *quite* 10 years old yet, but it's pretty > close -- and it's 'different' enough that hopefully I won't get flamed... I'm not sure, but I think it's just over 10 years old, if not, as you say it's pretty close. > I have a DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP which is currently sitting idle -- it has > Tru64 Unix 5.0 on it currently, and 64Meg of RAM. I was thinking of putting > Alpha VMS 7.1 instead, for to start learning VMS again (someday... :-O ) > and I recall saying that Alpha VMS is much happier in more than 64M Ram, so > I was thinking of upgrading it. You can run it in 64MB, but it isn't fun. > I do know that it uses 'standard' 72-pin Parity FPM Memory - but what I > don't know is: how finicky is the machine? Will just any Parity memory > work, or is it limited to certain manufacturers? I have a supplier that has > used 32M Parity 72-pin FPM memory for $6/stick -- a decent price > comparatively - I've seen it at $30+ per stick, which would make a memory > upgrade cost more than the machine itself... You're sure that it uses 72-pin? I'm honestly not sure, I know that the 3000/300LX does, but the 3000/x00 (can't remember the exact model) that a friend has sitting in my Living room till she finds a drive for it, uses proprietary RAM. Anyway, I've used various 72-pin FPM SIMMs in my Alpha's and haven't had any problems that I can think of. Which isn't to say that you won't have problems. The other question is, can it handle 32MB SIMMs, and how many do you have to add at once? BTW, 128MB is probably more than enough to just play. > Should I take the chance and order the memory, or would it be foolhardy to > do so? Do you deal with anyone that scraps PC's? I'm using some RAM out of Pentium Pro's in a couple of my Alpha's. Zane

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Looking for Digital Channel Server II (DESNB)

by dittman＠dittman.net

Does anyone have an old Digital Channel Server II (DESNB) sitting around unused? If so, please let me know. I have someone that needs one and is willing to pay if it works. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net

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Replacement CFX-200 Buttons

by wrawbee＠hotmail.com

The best way to replace the buttons on a CFX-200 is to buy a used CD-401. This is an earlier metal databank watch that uses the exact same case, buttons and band as the CFX-200. The buttons are easily transferrable. You can buy a CD-401 relatively inexepensively through Ebay. I recently purchased one for $24.00 (US). You cannot order these parts. When lookin for one, the key words should be Casio and "calculator" or "data bank." _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

22 years, 9 months

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OS uptimes

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

A few posts back there was something about a sun box staying up six months? Humm which release of Solaris was it that 'fixed' a documented 30,000 bugs? There's a saying about wherever you see one cockroach there is 1000 more hidden... *grin* Anyways... that got me thinking so I had to check. I popped into one of our FreeBSD web servers. It hosts a fair number of high volume sites (stevewinwood.com, kellerwilliams.net, and some stringcheeseincident support sites)... the current uptime is.... 5:43PM up 353 days yeahhhhh baby! Jay West

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Teh over priced Mark-8/IBM 5100 is back

by David.Kane＠aph.gov.au

I think we should give this guy his very own wet dream. I will bid one MILLION dollars for it (left small finger in mouth), and someone else can bid a few buck less. That should be a good laugh for him. David -----Original Message----- From: Dwight K. Elvey [mailto:dwightk.elvey@amd.com] Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2003 9:06 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Teh over priced Mark-8/IBM 5100 is back "He's Back!" It looks like the same fellow with a new name. That'd be my guess. Who was it that contacted eBay last time? Maybe he should drop them another note. As a side question, weren't most of the front panels for the Mark-8's home made. In which case you couldn't use someone else's photo. Dwight >From: chris <cb(a)mythtech.net> > >> The seller is the overpriced systems and swiped descriptions and photos >>is back. >><http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2544091022&categor y=12> >>Is this the same seller ID or a new one? > >I'm really curious what exactly he is selling. The listing doesn't say >that ANYTHING is really for sale. Although whatever the nothing is, its >$50 for shipping, and $5,000 to insure it (wow, it costs more to insure >it than to buy it!) > >-chris ><http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 9 months

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OS uptimes

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

<Geek> Had a sparc IPC with almost 4 years of uptime, until the mainboard died :( </Geek>

22 years, 9 months

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Cray X-MP ENgraved I/O SS Access Door For Sale

by Mark.Jackson＠artsfest.org.uk

Hi There, I have a Cray Research I/O Sub System metal access door from a Cray X-MP that I reluctantly wish to sell. If you click on the link below you will see a picture of the machine and also in the distance, you will see the silver access door. If you make the pic bigger you will see it properly. It is engraved 'Cray Research Inc - I/O Subsystem'. I also have all the fittings for the door, ie the hinges and the magnetic contact strip. I don't want to sell it but unfortunately I need the cash. Would you be interested? email me at mrjackson99_uk(a)yahoo.co.uk http://www.cbi.umn.edu/exhibits/cray/crayxmp.html Thanks Mark

22 years, 9 months

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CBM PET Software (&H/W)

by mhstein＠canada.com

I've got a few boxes of PET S/W somewhere (diskettes, ROMS and tapes), but whether after 25 years or so of sitting in a damp basement & wet garage the hardware still works (or if I can remember how) to copy it is another question; what sort of S/W are you looking for? Assuming the hardware works, the diskettes shouldn't be a problem, nor the EPROMS, and I seem to recall making a "null-cassette" adapter to copy tapes; anybody remember that? Hmmm, archiving those on a CD, or e-mailing them, should be an interesting project... In fact, I also recall making a cassette port to cassette port cable to "network" two PETs; anybody ever try that? And of course the famous switch to switch an 8032 into 4032 mode for compatibility with all the 40 col stuff out there at the time. Well, my interest being revived, I just went out to the garage and found a 2001 covered in racoon s**t (fortunately with a plastic cover on it), with an MTU graphics board installed. That looks dead, but the 8032 in the basement with mushrooms growing on the floor fired up after all these years with that vaguely familiar start-up tinkle (no, I didn't bother to reform the PS caps :); lifted the cover and there's even a DEC modem inside, but don't ask me if or how THAT worked. Now to find the disk drives (and then there's the pile of C64s, VIC20s and monitors up at the cottage, some even brand new in the box from the days when I planned to replace some AIM65s with VIC20s in a quite successful industrial controller application, believe it or not, but by the time I finally got a round tuit, PC's had arrived). Ah, memories, however vague and distant... m --------------------Original Message------------------ From: "Chandra Bajpai" <cbajpai(a)comcast.net> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: RE: Fwd: RE: 8250 LP Double disk drive for the commodore 64 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:38:56 -0400 Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Can 8050 diskettes be read on the 8250 (can the 8250 sense single sided diskettes)? Which PET drive is compatible with 1571? Ethan...I've accumulated a lot of PET stuff, including a dozen 8032's, a dead SuperPET, some drives (including an 8250) and 3-8K PETs. Love to hear what you have? I wish I had some software! -Chandra

22 years, 9 months

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Eagle computer question?

by grg2＠comcast.net

Well, I've done it now. I put an old Eagle computer up for auction, and I included a bit of history about "Eagle Conmputer", but now I wonder if I goofed up big-time on the history. As I recall, Many many years ago (around 1982?) I read in InfoWorld that Eagle Computer's president met a tragic end, just after the company went public, or get a big bunch of financing, or somesuch. Something along the lines of his car ran off the road after a celebratory party. If you've driven Hwy 17 at night (between San Jose and Scotts Valley), you know it's a real damp-armpits trip, even when sober. About 300 twisty turny bits, rising and falling, no streetlights, few guardrails, steep dropoffs. But now as I search the Web, I can't find any trace of this news item. Did I imagine it? Have I got the wrong company? Anybody recall? It's awful turning 50! Thanks, George

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iUP-201 PC software

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >Subject: Re: iUP-201 PC software > >Hey Dwight, > > If you write something, I'd like to get a copy too. I finally got a >working iuP 201. BTW I've been thinking of making a PC interface for the >UPP 103. I've finally got some docs on it and found out that it only uses >about six commands; three writes, two reads and one read status. I don't >know what they are but it should be too hard to grab the data with a logic >analyzer. I'm not planning on doing it anytime soon, right now I'm busy >re-building some MDSs. > > BTRW do you know if there was ever any software written for ISIS to >operate the iUP 201? Hi Joe I'm not sure. I wish Intel hadn't trashed the user library. It seems like every combination of thing was done by someone, at one time or the other. I still haven't had time to bring up my MDS800. I've been busy entertaining a visitor from Singapor for the last few weeks. I'm still working on the H89 to PC transfer software. I'm trying to figure out how to stop windoz from trashing serial data when I do direct port accesses to the serial. The code works otherwise. Dwight > > Joe > >At 10:26 AM 7/7/03 -0700, you wrote: >>Hi Tim >> If someone else doesn't get you anything, I can write something >>for you. I think you can easily drive it from the printer port >>with an adapter cable( I've not totaled the signals needed ). >> Some of the newer boards require sequencing that I don't have >>information on but for cards that program things like 1702A's >>or 2708's, I have info on the sequences needed. >>Dwight >> >>>X-Authentication-Warning: huey.classiccmp.org: mailnull set sender to >>cctalk-admin using -f >>>From: "Tim Shaw" <T.Shaw(a)corp.amc.edu.au> >>>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >>>Subject: iUP-201 PC software >>> >>>Hi Robert >>>I found your request for modules for a iUP201 Universal Programmer. >>>I have just dusted off a iUP-201 we have had sitting on a shelf for as long >>>as anyone here can remember. >>>I cant help you with modules but I would be very grateful if you could help >>>me with software to drive it from a PC. >>>I need to use it to read the contents of a 2732 EPROM from an engine volume >>>generator I hope to update. >>> >>>regards >>> >>>Tim Shaw T.Shaw(a)corp.amc.edu.au >>>Senior Technical Officer (Elect) +61-3-63354805 Ph >>>Technical Services +61-3-63266493 Fax >>>Australian Maritime College www.amc.edu.au

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otrona parts?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 07:05 AM 7/3/03 -0600, Robert_Feldma wrote: >I finally remembered to pull out my Attache 8:16 last night. There _is_ a serial number on the outside, under the right front corner, below the "Attache" name (mine is 7840). It's stamped on a small metal plate and glued in a shallow recess, so it could have been lost. > >Bob Hey, You're right. I got mine out today and looked it does have the SN on the outside. It's on the bottom right in the front RH corner. I got the software today and it runs like a champ! Thanks for the help. Joe > >-----Original Message----- >From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com] >Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 10:43 AM >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: otrona parts? > > > I've been playing with the Otrana Attache that I found last week. ><snip> > > FWIW I took it apart and checked it this morning and I noticed something >funny. The no serial number anywhere on the outside of it but inside >EVERYTHING has the serial number on it. The INSIDE of the case, the >monitor, both disk drives, the power supply, the sheet metal, etc are all >numbered 4616 but there's no number anywhere on the outside. > > Joe

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Windoze crash (was Re: Well, I was at Fry's in CA...)

by loedman1＠juno.com

Sellam observed, >Most versions of Windows up until XP were buggy as hell and a pain in the >ass to maintain. When I was running Windows 95, I had to reboot a few >times a week. When I switched to Windows 98, a few times a month. Now >I'm using XP, and I still have to reboot once in a while. Definitely an >improvement. But the fact is, most of us have become so jaded with MS >"operating systems" that we instinctively think of them as crap. >Now, the real question is, why do you take attacks against an operating >system personally? -- I too grew tired of the "Blue screen of death" on my horribly overclocked box running Windows 95a but with a wonderful program called Xteq I was able to end it forever, it is now the Red screen of death. Rich

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PDP-11 Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11 (Originally Produced by Tim Shoppa)

by jhfinexgs2＠compsys.to

I will make this post just a few more times since hobby users seem to see it on a random basis. In regard to the Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11 that Tim Shoppa originally produced: I am in the middle of finishing a third (very small) batch of CDs and could easily add a few additional copies. I will be making all copies of the CD images from: ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RSX-11/ Since not everyone has both a high speed internet connection and a CD burner, I thought it would be helpful to make them available. If you have both requirements and are using Windows 98 SE / Nero Burning, I can help with the details if you don't know how to burn a CD from an "Image File". I have even been able to produce a label for each CD that is close to the original label from Tim Shoppa, although since they were scanned (THANK YOU FOR THE HELP), they are not perfect. They are available at $ 5 / $ 9 / $ 12 for 1 / 2 / 3 CDs. In addition, I understand that Memorex Black CD-Rs have a longer shelf life and are available at Business Depot. If anyone wants those instead, add $ 1 for each CD that you are requesting. Thus those amounts are $ 6 / $ 11 / $ 15 Please contact me directly for my snail mail address. I picked up some Memorex Black CD-R blanks and started on the copies for those who have already requested that a Black CD-R be used. Please include your snail mailing address!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In general, I will regard any funds you send as a gift so that if anyone really can't afford the CDs, please state why that is so. Outside of the US, probably about $ 2 should be sufficient for extra postage. All amounts are in US dollars. Please ask if you are not in the US. No point in converting twice. In addition, probably most people do not follow the exchange rate between the Canadian / US dollar, but the current rate is MUCH less favourable. If a 4th batch is ever made, the amounts to be sent will need to be changed. I will keep the amounts the same this time, but the $ 12 will become $ US 14 and the $ 15 will become $ US 18 based on the current exchange rate and adjusted at the time if the exchange rate changes again. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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Teh over priced Mark-8/IBM 5100 is back

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

"He's Back!" It looks like the same fellow with a new name. That'd be my guess. Who was it that contacted eBay last time? Maybe he should drop them another note. As a side question, weren't most of the front panels for the Mark-8's home made. In which case you couldn't use someone else's photo. Dwight >From: chris <cb(a)mythtech.net> > >> The seller is the overpriced systems and swiped descriptions and photos >>is back. >><http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2544091022&category=12> >>Is this the same seller ID or a new one? > >I'm really curious what exactly he is selling. The listing doesn't say >that ANYTHING is really for sale. Although whatever the nothing is, its >$50 for shipping, and $5,000 to insure it (wow, it costs more to insure >it than to buy it!) > >-chris ><http://www.mythtech.net>

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Teh over priced Mark-8/IBM 5100 is back

by cb＠mythtech.net

> The seller is the overpriced systems and swiped descriptions and photos >is back. ><http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2544091022&category=12> >Is this the same seller ID or a new one? I'm really curious what exactly he is selling. The listing doesn't say that ANYTHING is really for sale. Although whatever the nothing is, its $50 for shipping, and $5,000 to insure it (wow, it costs more to insure it than to buy it!) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Boot original Mac from an external floppy?

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Is it possible to boot the original Macintosh, or perhaps the Mac 512K or >Mac Plus, from the external floppy drive? Yes. I seem to recall doing that on a regular basis with the 128k, and although I don't recall having ever booted from an external floppy with the Mac Plus, I have booted the Plus from the old Hard Disk 20 that used the floppy interface. So I would imagine that an external floppy drive would also be bootable on that machine. In fact, I thought (but could be wrong) that you could boot all Macs that had a floppy port via an external floppy disk. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Seeking info on AT&T Gemini-100 Electronic Blackboard

by vcf＠siconic.com

In the late 1970s, AT&T's Bell Labs invented the "electronic blackboard". It was basically a digitizing tablet that allowed one to draw and transmit images. Might anyone know where one exists? How about similar products prior to December 1979? When was the first digitizing tablet invented? This is research I'm conducting for a client, so any useful leads will be compensated. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Boot original Mac from an external floppy?

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Cool. So can I assume that if there is no disk in the internal drive, but >an external drive with bootable disk is attached, the Mac will find that >and boot from there? Correct. IIRC, the boot order is internal floppy, external floppy, internal SCSI, external SCSI. It *might* go internal floppy, internal SCSI, THEN external floppy, external SCSI. I know there are key combos you can hold down to get it to skip the internal SCSI which is why I'm thinking that might come before external floppys. It has been a LONG time since I have had to deal with external floppies (my only normal use external drive was a 400k drive, so the last time I seriously used one and would have had to boot from it was probably 1988 or so) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Early,Nixdorf personal computer

by vcf＠siconic.com

This is a PC clone basically. Normally found in Germany, and throughout Europe. Reply-to: 3cargrandma(a)earthlink.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:04:51 -0500 From: Shirley Miezwa <3cargrandma(a)earthlink.net> To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> Subject: Early,Nixdorf personal computer. I have an old NIXDORF PERSONAL COMPUTER which came out in about 1987-88. maybe before then. I seem to have misplaced the DOS instructions. I do have serial #. It has a green display screen. and orange -ish- letters. It has a printer attached which heat prints on rolls of fax paper. It is in a suitcase style. It is located in my home in Mpls. Mn. I found it at a rummage sale in New England, I think it was in N.H. about 5 years ago. If their is a Market for it , I want to sell it .I have been told it might have GREAT value to the right person. If you can direct me to the right places to look,I would greatfully accept your help. I do have Poloride Pix I can e-mail if you are intrested. Thank You 3cargrandma(a)earthlink.net -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Substitute for DEC SS/QD Floppies

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

At 10:01 PM 6/11/03 -0500, you wrote: >On 10 Jun 2003, Barry Skidmore wrote: > > > I am looking for blank disks to use in a DEC RX50 drive. I have seen > > posted several places that DD disks can be used, but so far my attempts > > to initialize Verbatim DS/DD disks under RT-11 have failed: > > > > "?DUP-F-Size function failed" > >You can't format RX50's with any Dec PDP-11 hardware. You probably can >with a VAXstation 2000, or using a PC and the proper software - there's >instructions for doing it under Linux with a 1.2MB floppy drive and DSDD >disks on the web. If you want to I can probably find them. Get yourself a Dec-Rainbow to format them :) or the Pro380 IIRC will format RX-50's :)

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Boot original Mac from an external floppy?

by vcf＠siconic.com

Is it possible to boot the original Macintosh, or perhaps the Mac 512K or Mac Plus, from the external floppy drive? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Eagle computer question?

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Fred N. van Kempen" <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> > >On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > >> > lines of his car ran off the road after a celebratory party. If you've >> > driven Hwy 17 at night (between San Jose and Scotts Valley), you know it's a >> > real damp-armpits trip, even when sober. About 300 twisty turny bits, >> > rising and falling, no streetlights, few guardrails, steep dropoffs. >People crossing the f* road (when you get closer to the Sta Cruz end), >and so on. On the way TO sta cruz, beware of drunk-as-a-skunk party >people driving (!) back to their homes (around san jose) ... bah. > >--fred Hi It wasn't on 17. It was on University Ave. I saw the smashed guard rail the next day. I drive 17 every day. You need to treat it with respect. Dwight

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Windoze crash (was Re: Well, I was at Fry's in CA...)

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> > >On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Fred Cisin wrote: > >> > You don't like my theory, too bad. To quote yourself: "YOU ARE AN ASS." >> >> Aren't we all > >I certainly am. > I resemble that remark. Dwight

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Eagle computer question?

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Fred Not only new but minutes new. He was driving it from Los Gatos Ferrari on University Dr and lost is next to the reservoir, just before his companies building near Lark Ave. Dwight >From: "Fred Cisin" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > >On Sat, 5 Jul 2003, George R. Gonzalez wrote: >> Well, I've done it now. I put an old Eagle computer up for auction, >> and I included a bit of history about "Eagle Conmputer", >> but now I wonder if I goofed up big-time on the history. >> As I recall, Many many years ago (around 1982?) I read in InfoWorld that >> Eagle Computer's president met a tragic end, just after the company went >> public, or get a big bunch of financing, or somesuch. Something along the >> lines of his car ran off the road after a celebratory party. If you've > >Yep. >My recollection was that it was a brand new Ferrari. > > >> But now as I search the Web, I can't find any trace of this news item. Did >> I imagine it? Have I got the wrong company? Anybody recall? It's awful >> turning 50! > >I don't know where to find a citation of it. > > >It keeps getting worse after 50. > >-- >Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com

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Older wordprocessing software

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

The last MS Word for DOS (5.5) was available for free download from the MS site, as a Y2K update, but I can't find it there now. It is, however, available from S.U.P.E.R. (the HP LX Palmtop software site) at http://www.palmtop.net/super5.html. I am not aware of any sites where you can download WordPerfect. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:26 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Older wordprocessing software On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Zane H. Healy wrote: > >I'm taking suggestions for wordprocessing software to run on an older 486 > >laptop (1994, so almost within the 10 year limit!) that's running Windows 3.11 > > I'd think the choices would be obvious, Word Perfect which has been suggested, might be a decent choice, however, I for one would be inclined to go with > MS Word 6.0. Personally I have a strong dislike for Ami Pro, though I'll admit that is due to my using the OS/2 version. IF you operate in isolation, then consider the later versions of the DOS products, specifically Word-Pervert, Weird, and PC-Write. If you are going to be transferring files with more "modern" machines, then condsider running MICROS~1 OFFICE (Weird, Excel, etc.) The version of Office for Windoze 3.11 usually came on 26 1.4M floppies, but there WAS a CD-ROM available.

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[GreenKeys] Fwd: BBC News E-mail: Babbage printer finally runs (fwd)

by jpl15＠panix.com

From the Greenkeys (mechanical teletype) mail list: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 11:20:11 -0400 From: Henry Minsky <hqm(a)ai.mit.edu> To: greenkeys-mailman.qth.net <greenkeys(a)mailman.qth.net> Subject: [GreenKeys] Fwd: BBC News E-mail: Babbage printer finally runs >hqm(a)ai.mit.edu saw this story on BBC News Online and thought you should >see it. > >------------ >Message: > > >------------ > >*Babbage printer finally runs* ><http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/sci/tech/710950.stm> > >A computer printer that was originally designed more than 150 years ago >has finally been built.

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CIS chip for 11/23[+]

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

Since this chip has been asked about on occasion here, I thought I would point out that one is up for auction on ebay (no, I have no connection with the auction)... it has a picture of the chip, for those who have wanted to see what it looks like... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2739025363&category=1247 Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: mbg at world.std.com | | Member of Technical Staff | megan at savaje.com | | SavaJe Technologies, Inc. | (s/ at /@/) | | 100 Apollo Drive | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Chelmsford, MA 01460 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | 978 256 6521 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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OT Re: OS uptimes

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 6, 18:12, Jay West wrote: > > I just retired my colocated 486 server (33Mhz, 20M RAM, Linux 2.0.39) > > which had a final uptime of 444 days, 13 hours, 13 minutes. > > Now I have something to shoot for. You can bet I will be running in circles > anytime I have to do something with that machine to keep from having to > reboot it *GRIN* A few months ago, my mail server had an uptime of 416 days. I was even watching it to see the magic 10000 hours roll over, having postponed the move to the new UPS just for that. You can guess when we had the 5 minute power cut :-( -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~itda/doc mirror?

by aek＠spies.com

Did anyone mirror the contents of http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~itda/doc before it disappeared in a disc crash last year? I have some of it (the Terak manuals) but didn't copy everything.

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New finds and disorganization

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

This week has been pretty hectic, what with working late and at the same time acquiring new hardware, all in the midst of my current project of trying to reorganize and clean the basement. The three day weekend should give me some time to catch up on stuff though. Anyway, apologies again to those of you that wanted to buy something, I'll get everything straightened out here soon. My new finds this week: A Prime 5340 minicomputer. This is a really interesting machine, it seems to be pretty loaded with expansion hardware, and even came with two waist high rack cabinets, one with a 9 track tape drive, and one with two more hard drives. I even got a stack of software manuals. This thing took a lot of work to move, and I haven't really had the time to start cleaning and documenting any of it yet, let alone even think of powering it up. Before I power it up I need to go through and check the power supply, as this had been sitting for a while. I also don't have any software for it, although the hard drives should have the operating system and stuff. This will be an interesting project, especially since this is the first large computer in my collection, and I haven't really worked on machines like this before. Tektronix 4051 computer. This is pretty neat too, it has a built in storage tube for the screen, and a tape cartridge drive. It was absolutely filthy when I got it, but I managed to get it cleaned up and tested. The computer works, but the tape drive needs some help. The eject mechanism is broken, and it won't read any tapes. Now, I only have two tapes, and they were stored in the back of the manual, which was with the computer, in a filthy storage area, so I don't know how good the tapes are. I would be interested in getting a known good tape so I can be sure the drive reads. This weekend will be spent on cleaning the basement, finding someplace good in the basement to put the large Prime computer, and getting stuff ready to ship out to people. Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

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