- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by TRASIOL＠cs.com

Sellam: I'll bet my last dollar that you've got termites - or maybe they've got you! They love corrugated board and paper. I've had them bore holes right through books, from cover to cover. I suggest you get help!! Art Hill

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YADA10YR (Yet Another Discussion About the 10 Year Rule)

by blstuart＠bellsouth.net

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 Tony Duell wrote: > And of course the Sequent machines that were boxes of 386s running in > parallel IIRC. That's right. Their symmetry series were 386 based and the earlier balance series were based on the 32016 (or maybe the 32032). I'm not sure if there were any other OSs, but the ones we had at Purdue ran Dynix, their version of UNIX for these parallel machines. Now if I could just find one for my collection... Brian L. Stuart

22 years, 6 months

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Another Apple 1 for sale

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 05:30 AM 9/10/03 -0400, you wrote: >There are plenty of 1950's era computers which are one-of-a-kind. Sadly, >many of them went to the scrapper. The ironic thing is that the truely one of a kind (or very limited production) computers aren't very collectable since few people know of them. I'm sure the people on this list can name lots of computers that were had less than 200 produced. And none of them would command the kind of price thaat the Apple I's do. I ran into the same thing when collecting cars. I have a 1970 Dodge Challanger RT convertible. The Challangers were only built for 3 years, convertibles only built for 2 years, only 269 RT convertibles were ever built. It's a LOT rarer than the Mustangs but everyone knows about the Mustangs and that's what everyone wants so the Mustangs are worth more than the Challangers. Joe > >Peace... Sridhar > >On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, TeoZ wrote: > >> Compared to rare stamp and coin collecting its a drop in the bucket for >> something thats very rare (but not 1 of a kind) >> Since I am curious whats the rarest/most expensive computer? I assume its a >> one of a kind that has some major historical value. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> >> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:44 AM >> Subject: Re: Another Apple 1 for sale >> >> >> > On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 ghldbrd(a)ccp.com wrote: >> > >> > > He should sell it to those guys in Nigeria, the 419 boys. >> > > >> > > Let me know when the price drops to just ludicrous. >> > >> > On the contrary, $20K is the going rate for a typical Apple-1. With all >> > that he's offering, it's actually a good deal. >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer >> Festival >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> > International Man of Intrigue and Danger >> http://www.vintage.org >> > >> > [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage >> mputers ] >> > [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at >> http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 6 months

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bugs!

by aek＠spies.com

> Surely better uses of Knuth remain today. He plays piano pretty well.

22 years, 6 months

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Vintage Computer Marketplace gets WIRED!

by patrick＠evocative.com

Our first mention: http://wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,60349,00.html Thanks to everyone for your support! --Patrick

22 years, 6 months

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Help with a eprom

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

Yes, I can also do it, either duplicate a current prom, or use a bin or hex file on a PC. Near Boston and Providence Joe Heck

22 years, 6 months

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bugs!

by cb＠mythtech.net

>No, because as William said "assuming normal arrangement of the volumes on >a shelf", volume 1 is to the left of Volume 2, which is left of Volume 3. >So only the front cover of Volume 1, all of Volume 2, and the back cover >of Volume 3 need be traversed. Yeah, as soon as I read his post, I slapped my forehead for having over looked that fact. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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bugs!

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

No, because as William said "assuming normal arrangement of the volumes on a shelf", volume 1 is to the left of Volume 2, which is left of Volume 3. So only the front cover of Volume 1, all of Volume 2, and the back cover of Volume 3 need be traversed. -----Original Message----- From: chris [mailto:cb@mythtech.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:27 PM To: Classic Computer Subject: Re: bugs! >3 + 5/8 if you're going to start inside V1 and they're all 1" thick and 5 >covers to go through. wouldn't it be 3.5 inches? Starts page 1 vol 1, ends last page vol 3, so that's only 4 covers to go thru (back of vol 1, front of vol 2, back of vol 2, front vol 3). So that's 3 books of pages at 1 inch per book, 3 * 1 = 3 4 covers at 1/8 per cover is 4 * 1/8 = 4/8 = 1/2 3 inches of text + 1/2 inch of covers = 3.5 inches that the worm travels. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Help with a eprom

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

O.K., I have the bin file in my briefcase. Tonight I will try to burn a 27c128 at home. I have the chips, I just don't know if they are verifiable. I'll post tomorrow. So, nobody else need kill time until I fail. I have 4 programmers, I suspect I won't have a problem, but who knows. Joe Heck

22 years, 6 months

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PDP-11/83 Power Supply Wierdness

by cmcnabb＠4mcnabb.net

My PDP-11/83 has recently (past few weeks) been displaying some odd symptoms. The system is a PDP-11/83 in a "Corporate Cabinet". Most of the time, when the power switch is turned on, the "run", "halt", "ready" lights blink on then go off. Also, the Red light on the TK-50 will come on then go off. You also hear a relay closing and opening in the rack power supply. About every 10th try, the DC OK light will come on and the system will start to power up. Then all the lights go off after a couple of seconds and the rack power supply relay clunks. When the switch is turned off, "run", "ready", and the TK-50 light blink on and you hear what sounds like the relay in the rack power supply closing and opening. Kevin, do you remember it doing anything like this when it was yours? -- Christopher McNabb <cmcnabb(a)4mcnabb.net> The McNabb Family

22 years, 6 months

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Another Apple 1 for sale

by Paul.HILLS＠uk.landisgyr.com

I liked the Steve Jobs quote from one of the links off that URL (http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,20271,00.html)... "It's the first Apple I built and sold by Apple," claims auctioneer Risley Sams, who will open the bidding on Tuesday 29 June at 11 a.m. "We offered it to Steve Jobs, but he said he had such a hard time selling it in the first place that he didn't really want it. Paul http://www.landisgyr.com/ This communication contains information which is confidential and may be privileged and is for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). If you are not a named addressee please contact the sender immediately, and delete/destroy this communication. You are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company, its directors or officers unless otherwise specifically stated. The Company is not responsible for any reliance placed on the information contained herein and excludes all liability. (c)Copyright 2003 Landis+Gyr Ltd UK All Rights Reserved.

22 years, 6 months

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image software for 700

by mikelait＠magasec.com

I got some too. ever find out about the image software? Jim

22 years, 6 months

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help with corvus concept

by gksloane＠hotmail.com

I am trying (so far in vain) to find keyboards and monitors for a Corvus concept. I have three concepts - but no monitors and only 1 keyboard! Got any ideas where I might look? Got an old one in your garage? Gary Sloane SB/US Engineering Inc. gksloane(a)hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_emoticon

22 years, 6 months

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another few wanted items

by aek＠spies.com

Also, need a complete set of rails for the 11/34 cpu... or... can I use 11/44 rails for it? -- 34's use the same Chassis-Trak slides that were used on RK05's. 44 rails are quite unique, and are actually hard to find, since most systems were sold in corporate cabs which had another unique set of top extending slides.

22 years, 6 months

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Help with a eprom

by luc＠e2t.be

I can program almost anything there is and was to program... If nobody closer then me can help you - send me the code Luc Belgium -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens TeoZ Verzonden: dinsdag 9 september 2003 23:59 Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Onderwerp: Help with a eprom Would anybody with an eprom burner be willing to burn a 27c128 rom (I have the code) to update an apple scsi card rom from revision B to C so it will work with my IIgs?

22 years, 6 months

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Another Apple 1 for sale

by cb＠mythtech.net

>And actually, the Apple-1 of that auction was not in fact the first. The >first was given to Lisa Loop by Woz to use in her classroom. You need to learn to read "marketing speak". They did specify that it was the first built AND SOLD by Apple. If Woz gave away the first built, that doesn't make it the first build AND SOLD. Its all in the twist of marketing :-) (Of course, that doesn't mean I believe it anyway... I've personally come to expect that 90% of what anyone selling an items says is probably BS) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Gawd damn bugs!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I should have mentioned that. A friend of mine is a REAL pack-rat. He has books that he's had in storage for many years with no damage. He uses tomato boxs from the grocery store. They're fairly small so they're easy to handle when filled with books and they're sturdy. He puts a heavy duty plastic trash bag in the box and then puts his books inside that and then closes the bag and seals it with a twist tie. So far we haven't seen any moisture or bug damage to any of them. (We've opened up at least 100 boxs and put them up on shelves.) A couple of years ago he gave me a box full of NorthStar manuals that had been in storage for 12 or 13 years. They were all completely undamaged when when I opened them up. Joe At 06:03 AM 9/10/03 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > >> I just found out that two of my magazine boxes were attacked by some damn >> little wormy things. They were white and about a quarter inch in length. > >Termites have legs. (At least every one I've seen did.) > >Do these have legs? I've heard termites will eat paper/cardboard, so >I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they were termites. > >You could stick the magazines in little plastic baggies, sorta like >what the comic book ppl do, and that'd keep bugs (and a number of other >things) away from the magazines. > >YMMV, Std. Disclaimers apply. (Of course. :-) ) > >David

22 years, 6 months

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Needed: IBM 5364 PC Console Attachment Programs

by ceby2＠csc.com

Martin -- Thanks so much! This looks like just the right stuff to get me going. I'll give a try as soon as I get a chance today. Now, as to S/36 information for the beginner... truth is the publicly accessible material's a little thin on the ground. It pre-dates IBMs electronic documentation distribution. Being old hard copy, a lot of it's been pulped at this point. I've managed to assemble a pretty fair bookshelf of hardcopy, and I've scanned two of the manuals to at least a readable level. They're big though. The Operator's manual for ht 5362/60 I scanned is 100 MB. You're very welcome to it of course. That's why I scanned it in the first place. But I'll need an ftp site or some such to send it to. I do have the operator's manual for the 5364 and some other goodies, but I got them so recently nothing's scanned yet. As a quick entre you might want to read the AS/400 reference for the S/36 environment (IBM Bookshelf: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/QBKAUR00/CCONTENTS?SHEL…). That's the compatibility mode they continue to support. The link takes you to the earliest version I could find. It should give you a good intro to the command structures and concepts. Or you could look at the documentation for Advance System/36. I don't know if they sell that at more, but that was basically an AS/400 running S/36 with some enhancements (IBM Bookshelf: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/Shelves/qbja8n03) . I don't know how close AS/36 and S/36 are. If those links aren't helpful, let me know a the location of your favorite bit-bucket, and I'll pass on what I've scanned so far. Thanks again, Colin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

22 years, 6 months

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Free: HP 64000

by luc＠e2t.be

Jim, Sorry but I can't help you with the 6809 pod. But if you intend to do it away I am very interested. I used it for years on Z80 development. Actually I have one, but very incomplete - no pods, no doc... I have no problems in paying shipping cost in advance (I know it's heavy) gr. Luc Belgium -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens jimcox(a)miba51.com Verzonden: dinsdag 9 september 2003 22:18 Aan: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Onderwerp: Free: HP 64000 Hello: I was searching Google for anyone interested in a HP 64000 that I adopted (more like left on my porch :) and came a cross an newgroup posting you had made and was wondering if you could help me out. The system was given to me under the pretext that it would come with a a 6809 pod, but alas it only has a Z80 Pod and something like an 8047 Pod. It did come with all the docs. plus extra components. Do you know where I could find a 6809 Pod for this beatie. If you do know where I can get a 6809 pod for free or very cheap, I would appreciate knowing about it. If not, do you know of anyone interested in taking the system for free. I live in the Seattle area, so it's free to anyone willing to pick it up. Thanks! Jim Cox

22 years, 6 months

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Another Apple 1 for sale

by cbajpai＠comcast.net

Found this while searching around..I think he discounted the price to $20K -Chandra (A) Apple 1 computer in case. (B) Five (5) original manuals, a complete set, as of this time I know of no one else that has a complete set of manuals. (C) Three (3) original Apple 1 cassette tapes from Apple Computer Co. (D) The SWTPC PR-40 printer. This printer itself is an antique and hard to find. It is unique to the Apple 1 computer because of an article in InterFace Age magazine, Oct 1976 by Steven Jobs. (E) The InterFace Age magazine, dated Oct 1976. (F) The Nuts & Volts magazine, July 2002 issue. Has an article and pictures on the Apple 1 computer. (G) A+, an Apple magazine, dated Jan 1987. The 10 year anniversary of the Apple II but has pictures of the Apple 1. Done with Steve Wozniak. (H) The Brief Case, pictures on web site. (I) Last but not least, the postcard that was signed by Steve Wozniak, a prized possession. The cost of the Apple 1 system is thirty thousand ($30,000) US dollars. You must be able to pick up the system or arrange to have it picked up. Other conditions apply but will discuss with the buyer before agreeing on a deal for the Apple 1 system. I reserve the right to refuse any offer. If more that one party is interested, highest offer will get the Apple 1 system provided all conditions are meet. http://torzewski.tripod.com/apple1computer/id11.html

22 years, 6 months

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SVGA with DE9

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I have a Sony CPD-1304 VGA/SVGA monitor that has a 9-pin connector as >well. I have a 9-15 pin adapter cable to use it on a PC, and they also >supposedly made (but I never got one) a cable to use it with a Mac II >class computer. I might have a cable or two like that for the Mac. I have some that are 15 pin like the Mac RGB connector, and go to a 9 pin like a CGA connector. I don't know what they go to, they were just in a box of cables that I aquired. Humm... I wonder if I can use one of those cables with my Sabre monitors? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Two 3Com finds today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

At an auction today I picked up an 3Com #Server3 and a 3Com 3Station hooked to a WYSE WY-530-02 and the KB for it.

22 years, 6 months

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Correction: PDP8/E now on eBay

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Oops, Took me a while to get to getting those pictures up and in the meantime he put the PDP8/E schematics on eBay There currently at only $26.00 with almost two days to go. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41519&item=2556402557 Best Regards

22 years, 6 months

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Needed: IBM 5364 PC Console Attachment Programs

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/9/2003 10:21:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ceby2(a)csc.com writes: Question... this one probably goes to Sellam, but the field's open... I have an IBM PC/36, the baby System/36. Silly thing's sitting on my desk daring me to power it up, but without a critical bit of code I can't. To operate a 5364 you need a PC attached and running the "Attachment Programs". They act like a control panel for the server -- controlling the whole IPL and diagnostic process. As you may have guessed, I haven't got them. Would anyone on the list have such a set of disks around somewhere? -Colin Eby yea, I have one. you talking about the AT size mainframe with the single floppy drive? I got one about 2 years ago along with the dual floppy 5150 that runs it I guess and a terminal connected via twinax. I managed to IPL the system, but that's it, not knowing how to operate it any further. Mine just uses a single floppy. Is that what's needed?

22 years, 6 months

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Pro-Log M822A 8080A System Analyzer and PDP/8E Drawings

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Hello 8080 and 8080A and DEC PDP/8E fans, I bought some stuff from a guy just north of Sacramento, and he had a couple of other things for sale that I didn't need, but some of you might want. He had sent me pictures, so I uploaded them for viewing. Pro-Log M822A 8080A System Analyzer ... he had said he only wanted $25.00 for this 8.5" x 11" x 2" will work for the 8080 and the 8080A clips over 8080A CPU chip and is used for debuging programs and hardware system design 8080A first process authorized for military applications 8080 ... Altair, IMSAI, SOL, Poly88 http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2mj6m/pics/Z_Pro-Log_System_Analyzer_02… Original PDP8/E Computer Engineering Drawings ... he had said he wanted $50.00 for these http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2mj6m/pics/DEC_PDP8-E_Computer_Engineer… If anyone wants either of these, send me an email and I will forward it on to him. I will not be involved past that point, and accept no responsibility for the outcome. Best Regards

22 years, 6 months

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Flex mailing list?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody know what has happened to the Flex mailing list or to Ian Blythe who hosted the Flex website? (http://www.flexusergroup.com/) I tried to subscribe to the list but the message bounced. I found two addresses for Ian but both are no longer valid. Joe

22 years, 6 months

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Needed: IBM 5364 PC Console Attachment Programs

by ceby2＠csc.com

Question... this one probably goes to Sellam, but the field's open... I have an IBM PC/36, the baby System/36. Silly thing's sitting on my desk daring me to power it up, but without a critical bit of code I can't. To operate a 5364 you need a PC attached and running the "Attachment Programs". They act like a control panel for the server -- controlling the whole IPL and diagnostic process. As you may have guessed, I haven't got them. Would anyone on the list have such a set of disks around somewhere? -Colin Eby ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

22 years, 6 months

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OSI Challenger II Docs.

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

are there any Challenger II docs out there in PDF format?

22 years, 6 months

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Help with a eprom

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Would anybody with an eprom burner be willing to burn a 27c128 rom (I have the code) to update an apple scsi card rom from revision B to C so it will work with my IIgs?

22 years, 6 months

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SVGA with DE9

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Do you mean "DB9" connectors? I was under the impression that the small D shell size was an "E" not a "B". That "B" was the larger size commonly found on 25 pin connectors (lets not split hairs here, everyone knows what I mean by 25 pin connector... ie: a common PC parallel connector, or the larger serial connector, or a Mac SCSI connector). I used to call it a DB9, but I was corrected many moons ago by others on this list with FAR more knowledge on the topic than I have, so I took them at their word, and have made an effort to always refer to it as a DE9 now. I suppose the HD15 "VGA" connector would then be a DE15. And a DB9 would be a "25 pin" shell with only 9 actual pins in it (9 pin spaces, as from what I understand the count is based on number of spaces, not actual number of pins present). Hopefully we will avoid the whole "whats a "centronics/amphenol/telco/SCSI" connector called" discussion. That one really makes my head spin :-) But I am curious what the Sun monitor connector is called (that one that is a DB shell with 3 large barrel pins as well as some smaller pins). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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CGRS 6502 card for Altair bus

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

I've got a bare S100 board labeled "CGRS 6502 Computer Board, Rev A 7/77 WMS". The only reference I can find to CGRS is in the What's New column of Byte 2:7(115)- July, 1977 - "A New Microcomputer Series from CGRS" which describes three boards in the 6000 Series of Altair bus compatible cards based on the MOS 6502 processor. Manufacturer is listed as CGRS Microtech of Southhampton, PA. Other refs to CGRS Microtech point to Commodore PET products including RAM upgrades and an S100 interface card. Anyone know anything more? Jack Rubin Wilmette, Illinois USA

22 years, 6 months

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ISO Corvus Omnidrive Service Manual

by aek＠spies.com

> Do you have the service manual for the Bank tape drive? www.spies.com/aek/pdf/corvus/7100-05219_CorvusBankSvc.pdf

22 years, 6 months

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ISO Corvus Omnidrive Service Manual

by aek＠spies.com

I've been able to locate almost all of the Corvus service manuals now to archive with the exception of this one. The frustrating thing is that I HAD one of these before I gave all of my Corvus stuff to Eric Lander (who I managed to trace down again but disappeared before I could get anything back >from him). If someone has a copy of this that I could borrow to scan, please let me know.

22 years, 6 months

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Anyone have a CPU board for an OSI Challenger II ?

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

our roommate here has an old OSI challenger II that someone was kind enough to break into his storage unit and tear apart, we found all of it's guts except the CPU board :( does anyone happen to have one? or is anyone interested in the rest of it?

22 years, 6 months

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PAL RGB on Cub monitors

by alan_geering＠hotmail.com

Forgive me, I'm new to BBC computers and associated techology What I would like to know is whether the cube looking monitor (microvitech cub?) that came with BBC computers had the following: A scart input that took a PAL RGB 1v p-p signal that sync'd on green? If it did then can you please let me know which models. This is quite an urgent matter. Thanks, Alan Geering _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

22 years, 6 months

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Free: HP 64000

by jimcox＠miba51.com

Hello: I was searching Google for anyone interested in a HP 64000 that I adopted (more like left on my porch :) and came a cross an newgroup posting you had made and was wondering if you could help me out. The system was given to me under the pretext that it would come with a a 6809 pod, but alas it only has a Z80 Pod and something like an 8047 Pod. It did come with all the docs. plus extra components. Do you know where I could find a 6809 Pod for this beatie. If you do know where I can get a 6809 pod for free or very cheap, I would appreciate knowing about it. If not, do you know of anyone interested in taking the system for free. I live in the Seattle area, so it's free to anyone willing to pick it up. Thanks! Jim Cox

22 years, 6 months

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another few wanted items

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I need the rackmount rails for an RK05J. The drive still has it's "inner" rails, the ones that bolt onto the drives. But I need the mating ones that go in the rack. Also, need a complete set of rails for the 11/34 cpu... or... can I use 11/44 rails for it? Jay West

22 years, 6 months

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9000a pods

by aek＠spies.com

> looking for a 8085 fluke pod I have one available. Contact me off-list.

22 years, 6 months

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HP-85 item wanted

by jwest＠kwcorp.com

Ok, I know no one has one or will let it go if they do, but I'll ask.... Looking for the HP-85 accessory 82929A Programmable ROM drawer I'll trade unusually high for it... Jay West

22 years, 6 months

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Need Covalent Terminal info

by jpl15＠panix.com

A considerable amount of Googling, et al., has turned up no readily-available info, so I apply here: I have a Covalent Systems model 1410 terminal, which I bought at Weirdstuff last VCF, because cosmetically it *looks* like a VT100... anyway it was cheap and it works, but it appears not to emulate any known DEC CRT in it's present configuration, and the two sets of dipswitches on the back are cleverly un-marked. (Why do 'engineers' DO this shit??? Are they ashamed of their work? DO they hate techs??) Anyway, if anyone has any Covalent terminal info, or can point me to same, I'd be Much Obliged. The Collateral good news is that my 11/44 system has survived the move and garage temps over 110F and booted up this afternoon (now that it's cooling off a bit in northwestern Nevada) with no problems at all. I've spent the last few hours poking around on it and trying to remember how to drive RSX11 without having to drag a bunch of manuals out. I was using the Covalent for the system console, and a VT220 for the user term. I have a Decwriter on the way to use for the Console - and, I can now have my dream come true: the Machine will live in the Garage, and the terminals will be in my office - where it's Quiet. Cheers John

22 years, 6 months

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Genrad FutureData

by john＠farwestdesigns.com

Hey, Don't know if you are still interested in info about the GenRad Futuredata 2300 but I spent a long time in front of one and still have access to it for (very) occasional support. We bought it in 1980 and used it to develop a MagCard debit system based on the 8085. Used it for 6 years before transitioning to a PC environment. Observations: Extremely slick. RDOS II was spectacular for what it was intended for. Assembly, linking and loading always went without a hitch. Ours had a whopping 48K, 2 x 128K 8" Shugart drives and all the emulator stuff. You could buy memory to take it past 48K but it only gave you a few more K since RDOS II had to live in the upper memory. We did not use the emu too much as we had a resident monitor that was specifically tailored to debugging what we had to do. I did incorporate a PAL into a new design and when I discovered that all the PAL cross-compiler stuff ran on PDPs and other expensive machines that I did not have access to, wrote a PAL cross compiler that ran under RDOS II that drove a ProLog blaster to get us through. This was in 1981. All in all, a fantastic system. Even with the PC onslaught, it took a 486/33 with a HDD to finally beat the assembly/link speeds of that sorry, floppy-based FutureData unit. I returned to school after all this to complete the degree in computer science and was appalled at the sorry algorithms presented in the lower division. The FutureData used full track buffering, double hashing and more to make the most of limited hardware resources. Different than the current crop of VBASIC hacks. *sigh* As an aside. Back in those days, Intel, National and others sold their chips with the development systems (Intellec, StarLink etc.l) like a hook. Once you had put $20K into the development system (sometimes rack mounted!) they figured they could hose you on their single board computers etc. at whatever cost. With the GenRad, we could listen to them say how much more expensive it would be to move to the next board and then watch them crater when we told them that for less than $1K we could completely re-tool our development hardware and .. would have! Heady times, for sure. RJO

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"VAX/VMS Troubleshooting" rev 0.C available

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I have a document called "VAX/VMS Troubleshooting" available. It came from a former DEC employee, but I have no DEC hardware, so it is up for grabs, free -- but you pay shipping. It looks like a laser-printed copy, 3-hole punched and in a blue Digital binder, 220 pages, single-sided. Title page says "EY-5315E-P0-0001", "VAX/VMS Troubleshooting", "Ruth Goldenberg", "Revision 0.C". Each page says "*INTERNAL USE ONLY* on top, along with the date. This was obviously a work in progress, as the dates all vary, but they are mostly all from 1985. A few of the pages are loose (the holes tore through), and a few pages have writing, but this is a very clean copy otherwise.

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Apple 1 Replica Kit / board site scrape

by jwstephens_2000＠yahoo.com

This is a scrape of the information from the Apple 1 replica site with a lot of info. ***************************** It is provided as a copy, and is not authorized, so if you want to get the real info, you will have to get to the site for the real deal. I am only copying it here for those who didn't get it to come up due to web traffic issues. I am not associated with the seller at all. ***************************** Welcome to the Replica 1 website. After over a year on this project the final touches are being applied and final beta testing is being done. Please note that the Replica 1 will not come with a keyboard, power supply or monitor. Most standard ps/2 pc keyboards should work as well as most standard AT style pc power supplies. You can use your NTSC compatible monitor like I use, or hook it up to your TV’s video input jack. Feel free to email me with any questions or comments you may have. I will be producing these on a limited production basis. The first set of boards will be available for sale October 11, 2003. Special thanks goes out to Greg Glawitsch for creating the video ATMEGA8 code which made everything possible. Coming soon, cassette interface! Thanks Achim, and Larry! Vince Briel Q: Why don’t you try and make it look like the Apple 1 and use the same parts as the Apple 1. A. Well, the primary reason I’m doing this is because people who own Apple 1’s are afraid to power them up to run their software. By me having a functional clone, they will be able to eventually back up their programs and archive them. In addition, some of the original IC’s are very rare and almost impossible to find. Q: Why don’t you design it to use modern type monitors like VGA? A: By using standard composite monitors or TV’s with composite in it retains the essence of old 8bit computing. Q: Is the video available in both NTSC and PAL? A: Sorry, at this time only NTSC is available. Q: Will all the Apple 1 software work on the Replica? A: In theory, yes. Everything address wise has been left the same. Unfortunately, I don’t have any real software to try out yet. I have run the sample code that Woz wrote in the owner’s manual and they work just as described. Q: Isn’t the Woz Monitor the property of Apple? A: More than likely yes. But Woz was contacted about this and gave his ok. He stated that he handed it out along with his schematics long before there was an Apple computer company. Apple also turned all hardware and software matters over to the Apple 1 club and this project started and is still under the club. Q: I don’t have an ASCII or Apple II keyboard, what do I do? A: One of my last additions to the Replica was to add a microcontroller to interpret a standard PS/2 keyboard. So, you can use either a PS/2 keyboard or an Apple II/II+ keyboard. I did this because it is becoming harder to find ASCII keyboards to use. ********************* I am now taking pre-orders. If you want to reserve a Replica I please email me. mailto: Replica I preorder request/ vbr<<nospamremovethis>>iel(a)yahoo.com The official selling start date is October 11, 2003. The price will be $199 plus shipping. Assembled version $199 plus shipping: What’s included: Replica 1 board fully assembled and tested. Instruction and setup manual Links to Apple 1 sites of interest. Warranty: 30 Day warranty will be given on all boards. Unassembled (kit) version $150 plus shipping: What’s included: Replica 1 board unassembled. Instruction and setup manual for assembled version. Links to Apple 1 sites of interest. Warranty: No warranty given on kits. Bare kit version $99 plus shipping: What’s included: Replica I pcb board video IC and keyboard encoder IC. Instruction and setup manual for assembled version. Links to Apple 1 sites of interest. Warranty: No warranty given on kits.

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9000a pods

by steve.peddle＠sympatico.ca

looking for a 8085 fluke pod..waz wondering if any to sell thanks steve

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(no subject)

by davidmercier＠newengleng.com

I do have pinouts for eeco 9301 if you still need it. David A. Mercier New England Engineering Services 25 West Street Stafford Springs, Ct. 06076 (860) 684-5980 Fax: 684-5982

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DOS 1.0...

by mrevill＠aasb.com.au

Hi, Found your post dated July 28th 2002 on classiccmp.org regarding whether your copy of DOS 1.0 is worth anything. I am just curious to know whether you still own it? Cheers, Mark.

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ENTERPRISE 128 Keyboard matrix repair (Attn Adrian Witchy)

by ATrotsenko＠uosk.com.ua

Has anyone spares for ENTERPRISE 128 computer ? My E128 has corrupted keyboard matrix which I want to exchange. To Adrian Witchy: I saw posting "Enterprise 64 and 128" from May 24, 2003, where You sad that You have factory machinery & returned machines. Can You help ? Best regards, Andy Trotsenko, Ukrainian Security Insurance Co

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PCjr goes for over $150

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/7/2003 11:19:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jrkeys(a)concentric.net writes: Here's a complete unit that sold for $159+ on eBay, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2750719864 I got about half that about 4 years ago from a complete pcjr package deal with some reference books. guess I better email the winner and offer him a pcjr box that I found on the side of the road just last year <?> and a jr monitor still in the box, heh.

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Closet sale - some stuff to go.

by alex＠cmmrboot.uah.edu

Hi, DO you have still this part: SGI - Onyx boards IO4 (030-0646-105) - w/ vcam also SCSI differential, IOADAPT, and SCSI SE How much is it, if you have it ? Thank you Alex -- Dr. Alex Fedoseyev, Center for Microgravity Research, VBRH D-4, University of Alabama in Huntsville, Huntsville, AL 35899, USA Phone : (256) 824-6050 / Fax: (256)824-6944 E-mail: alex(a)uahtitan.uah.edu Web: http://uahtitan.uah.edu/alex/

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DEC Server & DECnet

by dave＠mitton.com

On 9/6/2003 08:45 PM -0500, cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org wrote: >From: "Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini(a)iee.org> >Subject: RE: DEC Server >Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:13:06 +0100 > > > No reason for a correction: it was indeed DECnet and LAT > >BTW: Someone else said that DS100 was the DEC first terminal >server. But the DECSA (PDP-11/24 based) preceded it. (I think >that was code named Pluto; if it wasn't, then there must have >been an even earlier one). Yes, that is correct. The Pluto was originally targeted to be the terminal front-end running CTERM for the Jupiter.... but that didn't happen. LAT was prototyped on one of those VT100s with an LSI-11 in it. >... > > > DECnet (MOP, to be more precise) was used for software download and > > from terminal ports to hosts on the net). LAT is *not* part of DECnet > > (which is often claimed), it's a separate protocol. However, it was > > common to run LAT on a host that also would run DECnet. > >MOP isn't part of DECnet either. Incorrect. Sort of like saying DHCP is not part of the TCP/IP stack, because it doesn't run UDP frames. MOP is the the Maintance Operations Protocol of the DECnet architecture. If you can find the spec (DECnet specs were published), it will say DECnet on it. (I have one in box somewhere) For that matter, LAT, while not developed as part of the traditional DECnet protocol set, but it was sold as a Digital networking product. A marketer would consider LAT part of the "DECnet" product set. (though it was a pure LAN protocol that was proprietary, private, and licensed - all things not done with other DECnet protocols.) Dave.

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