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How do _you_ move equipment? What "tools" do you use?

by PLancashire＠columbia.com

oh and when doing jobs on the side, there company name is Big Al's .. and Al is big ! -----Original Message----- From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:14 AM To: General(a)internet1.net; On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: How do _you_ move equipment? What "tools" do you use? Do you mean they were Samoan, Samoa? Somalian are from Somalia, in Africa. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA Lancashire, Pete wrote: > A fun note was the three guys that showed up where Somlians (sp?), > originally

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Destinations in Charleston, SC

by pietstan＠rogers.com

Now that I've finally got a bit of a vacation coming up, are there any worthwhile classic (translation: DEC-collector) destinations or sources in Charleston or vicinity?

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GE 73 bulbs for RL02

by jontitus＠comcast.net

Try Bulb Direct at www.bulbdirect.com. I didn't see anything on the company's Web pages about a minimum order. Search for "73." You can view an outline of the bulb. I'm not sure the two "73" bulbs they offer fill the bill, but you can check it out. Jon Jon Titus 36 Sunset Drive Milford, MA 01757-1362 USA Phone: +1-508-478-8040 E-mail: jontitus(a)comcast.net Member, National Association of Science Writers -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 7:38 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: cctalk Digest, Vol 2, Issue 10 Send cctalk mailing list submissions to cctalk(a)classiccmp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org You can reach the person managing the list at cctalk-owner(a)classiccmp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Garage sale, DEC 3000/500 $50, HSZ40 $25, ... (Shannon Hoskins) 2. 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(chris) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:39:13 -0700 From: "Shannon Hoskins" <pds3(a)ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Garage sale, DEC 3000/500 $50, HSZ40 $25, ... To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <000c01c38c1f$ff2b2bc0$7f3ba5d1@shannon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Zane, Where are you located? Sincerely, Shannon Hoskins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Garage sale, DEC 3000/500 $50, HSZ40 $25, ... > > Am I crazy to sell a DEC 3000/500 server (desk side) for $50? I > > believe it's got all the RAM it can fit and disk in and lots SCSI > > plugs out. My HSZ40s go for $25 a piece. My HP9000K400 with 2xDDS2 > > drives and 30 GB (?) RAID array and HP Terminal all in one rack go > > for $100. > > > > Am I crazy or just fed up about stuff taking space in my garage? > > I can't really comment on the HP (though it might be a little low). The > DEC3000/500 sounds about right. The HSZ40's are old enough to probably be > reasonable. > > Zane ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:14:56 -0400 (EDT) From: David Holland <dholland(a)woh.rr.com> Subject: Re: Used Atari 2600 Game Cartridge goes for over $70 To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310061253220.21014-100000(a)crusader.localdomain.home> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, TeoZ wrote: > easily, just be carefull. Then again the stuff I look for isnt that > expensive, I dont think I spent more then $150 on any 1 item on ebay and > that was when I started 3 years ago. Eh, I have. SGI Octane, MXI graphics, 195Mhz R10K, 256Mb mem, No Disk 400$. A year later, I still consider 400$ a pretty reasonable deal. The only reason I considered it was the seller was local.... I picked it up in person. Obligatory ontopic piece: I've a SGI Crimson w VGXT too, Anyone got a sled or and/or skins they want to get rid of cheap.. :-) David ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:46:43 +0200 From: "W.B.(Wim) Hofman" <hofmanwb(a)worldonline.nl> Subject: Re: memory refresher on PUTR To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <001501c38c32$071e8540$8594f0c3@computer4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 360 Wim ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay West <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: memory refresher on PUTR > I used to know this, but have forgotten, and now I'm getting ready to dig > the software back out... > > I believe it was a program called PUTR that I used on a PC to read/write > 5.25 floppy disks to exchange data with my PDP-11/23 that had an RX50 drive > in it. Should the PC drive be a 360k floppy or a 1.2m floppy? > > Wonder if there is some story as to the history of "disc" vs. "disk" :) HP > always used "disc". > > Jay West > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:00:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com> Subject: Re: black paper tape = mylar? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <39309.64.169.63.74.1065463241.squirrel(a)ruckus.brouhaha.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > I was wanting to get some mylar paper tape. There is an auction on Ebay > for > 6 rolls of "black paper tape"... can one generally assume that black paper > tape is mylar and not just paper? No. All the black "paper tape" I've ever used was in fact paper. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:02:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com> Subject: Re: memory refresher on PUTR To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <39321.64.169.63.74.1065463359.squirrel(a)ruckus.brouhaha.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > I believe it was a program called PUTR that I used on a PC to read/write > 5.25 floppy disks to exchange data with my PDP-11/23 that had an RX50 > drive > in it. Should the PC drive be a 360k floppy or a 1.2m floppy? 1.2M. The RX50 is an 80-track single sided drive, so their is no way to read or write the discs in a 40-track 360k drive. But a 1.2M drive will work fine. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:30:57 +0200 (CEST) From: "Fred N. van Kempen" <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> Subject: Re: memory refresher on PUTR To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.44.0310062030150.6561-100000(a)vaxlab.pdp11.nl> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Eric Smith wrote: > > I believe it was a program called PUTR that I used on a PC to read/write > > 5.25 floppy disks to exchange data with my PDP-11/23 that had an RX50 > > drive > > in it. Should the PC drive be a 360k floppy or a 1.2m floppy? > > 1.2M. The RX50 is an 80-track single sided drive, so their is no way > to read or write the discs in a 40-track 360k drive. But a 1.2M drive > will work fine. Hmm.. Jay: I stand corrected. Indeed, they're 80tr, not 40tr... --f ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 11:33:27 -0400 From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: 27SF512-70 To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031006113327.007d6bb0(a)pop-server.cfl.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Somebody needs to tell this clown that this isn't his private procurement list! Joe At 05:09 PM 10/3/03 -0500, you wrote: >I would like to know if you have any of these chips available. They are >the direct flash replacement for the 27C512 that I'm looking for. > >Thanks >Mehdi Mir > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 11:35:36 -0400 From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: black paper tape = mylar? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031006113536.007d76a0(a)pop-server.cfl.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:48 AM 10/6/03 -0500, you wrote: >I was wanting to get some mylar paper tape. There is an auction on Ebay for >6 rolls of "black paper tape"... can one generally assume that black paper >tape is mylar and not just paper? NO! I have several boxs of black PAPER tape so they do (did!) make the stuff. Joe > >The URL is http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2562042672 > >Can anyone advise if this is likely to be mylar or not? > >Regards, > >Jay West > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:34:42 -0700 From: John Rollins <kd7bcy(a)teleport.com> Subject: DEC cards available To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Message-ID: <a05200f02bba760e54682(a)[63.191.200.163]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I got these cards a while back(I think I asked what they were here on the list back in 2001), mostly MicroVAX II cards I think, all Q-bus. I'm mostly interested in getting these out of the way... I have no plans for building or keeping spares for a MicroVAX or anything beside my 11/84. Not sure what they're worth, and keep in mind they are untested. Make an offer plus actual shipping - I'll also consider trades for Unibus cards for my 11/84. Whatever the list doesn't want I'll probably put on eBay(I'll give you guys a week or two for those that don't keep up with their email very well). National Semiconductor NS638 - memory card with a 50-pin connector on the front Sigma Information Systems DZV11 clone unknown Emulex - marked TU0210401 M7551-CA MSV11-QC Q 4-Mbyte 22-bit parity/CSR MOS RAM M7164 KDA50-Q Q-bus SDI adapter 1 of 2 M7606-AF MicroVAX II CPU M7608-BC not in guide? MicroVAX II RAM M7608-BF M7516-YM DELQA-M Q Qbus to Ethernet Turbo Module, Q22 M8053-MA DMV11 Microprogrammed controller (needs one of M5930-M5931) with DDCMP control ROM (point-to-point or multidrop) I have three of these: M3104 DHV11-A Q 8-line Asynchronous Multiplexor, with DMA -- /------------------------------------\ | http://jrollins.tripod.com/ | | KD7BCY kd7bcy(a)teleport.com | \------------------------------------/From cctalk-admin Mon Oct 6 13:43:26 2003 Received: from epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net (epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.181]) by huey.classiccmp.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h96IhQH3038860 for <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:43:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kd7bcy(a)teleport.com) Received: from sdn-ap-014watacop0163.dialsprint.net ([63.191.200.163]) by epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1A6aC4-0004hY-00 for cctalk(a)classiccmp.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 11:34:53 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kd7bcy(a)mail.teleport.com Message-Id: <a05200f01bba75f5eea9c(a)[63.191.200.163]> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:07:28 -0700 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: John Rollins <kd7bcy(a)teleport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: Am I seeing things? X-BeenThere: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> List-Id: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk.classiccmp.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk> List-Post: <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> List-Help: <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=subscribe> Is it just me or are there a lot of people posting to the list responding to things that are non existent or ancient from an archive or something? Especially these people mentioning a web site and asking to buy something. Seems that there has been a lot of that lately. -- /------------------------------------\ | http://jrollins.tripod.com/ | | KD7BCY kd7bcy(a)teleport.com | \------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:10:09 -0700 From: John Rollins <kd7bcy(a)teleport.com> Subject: RE: Help! need 400k/800k Mac os 6 or 7 diskettes! To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <a05200f06bba76d893cd9(a)[63.191.200.163]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Apple stopped having the drives read and write 400 and 800 k disks a >while ago. Actually the System does that... I don't remember when though. I think it might have been System 8 that stopped reading 400k, I remember because I was real mad about not being able to use my PM6500 to do disks for my 128k, and then I ended up with an iMac and the iDock doesn't work under X(until you pull the cable going to the ADB and serial that is) but the USB floppy only handles 1.4MB anyway! So now it's time to get the LC up and running again I guess. But if you have Mac with the SuperDrive(floppy, not DVD-R!) in it, and you have something prior to System 8/9, you can do 400k disks all day long. Just keep a System 7 boot disk around! That oughta work with anything prior to a G3. -- /------------------------------------\ | http://jrollins.tripod.com/ | | KD7BCY kd7bcy(a)teleport.com | \------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:12:48 -0700 From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <a05210621bba76f0597b7(a)[192.168.1.5]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Is it just me or are there a lot of people posting to the list responding to things that are non existent or ancient from an archive or something? Especially these people mentioning a web site and asking to buy something. Seems that there has been a lot of that lately. I must confess, I was wondering about the "Re: VAXen available" message... It made now sense to me. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:18:06 -0700 From: "Ed Sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net> Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <000d01c38c46$f474cac0$262e98ac(a)aoldsl.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" and I thought I was the one imagining it! ed! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rollins" <kd7bcy(a)teleport.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 11:07 AM Subject: Am I seeing things? > Is it just me or are there a lot of people posting to the list > responding to things that are non existent or ancient from an archive > or something? Especially these people mentioning a web site and > asking to buy something. Seems that there has been a lot of that > lately. > > > -- > > /------------------------------------\ > | http://jrollins.tripod.com/ | > | KD7BCY kd7bcy(a)teleport.com | > \------------------------------------/ > > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:12:48 -0500 From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <00b001c38c3d$d4fdc380$033310ac(a)kwcorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, there is a public archive of the list postings. I kinda thought that's what the public archives were FOR? I especially like it when they talk about ancient things *S* I filter a lot of these so they never hit the list. But often I let them through because I feel that is what we are here for.. to be a resource. Maybe I'm being too lenient? J > Is it just me or are there a lot of people posting to the list > responding to things that are non existent or ancient from an archive > or something? Especially these people mentioning a web site and > asking to buy something. Seems that there has been a lot of that > lately. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:30:21 -0400 (EDT) From: John Lawson <jpl15(a)panix.com> Subject: Re: 27SF512-70 To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.58.0310061523400.7182(a)panix1.panix.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Joe wrote: > Somebody needs to tell this clown that this isn't his private procurement > list! > > Joe Hey Joe... decaf, man - remember: Decaf!! ;} Anyway - do recall that whenever someone Googles for a specific part, it is possible that they get pointed to an old message from Classiccmp in an archive - and so they don't really have any way of knowing that they are adressing a list of amateur collectors - so ya cut 'em some slack a bit.. And just think - what if it was *you* that just happened to have a nice stash of them chips the poor guy is desperate for... woo hoo!! Cheers John ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:34:46 -0400 From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> Subject: FA: HP 3000 cards and Omnibook Docking Station To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031006153446.007f3d70(a)pop-server.cfl.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" <http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=rigdonj> Joe ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:40:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0310061240330.25704-100000(a)siconic.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, John Rollins wrote: > Is it just me or are there a lot of people posting to the list > responding to things that are non existent or ancient from an archive > or something? Especially these people mentioning a web site and > asking to buy something. Seems that there has been a lot of that > lately. It comes in spurts. I think Jay is still (hopefully) working on a solution ;) -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage mputers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at ttp://marketplace.vintage.org ] ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:41:37 +0200 (CEST) From: "Fred N. van Kempen" <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? To: Ed Sharpe <esharpe(a)uswest.net>, "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.44.0310062141210.6561-100000(a)vaxlab.pdp11.nl> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This seems to be coming our way in waves.... ahwell. --f ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:42:39 -0400 From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031006154239.007b9b70(a)pop-server.cfl.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:07 AM 10/6/03 -0700, you wrote: >Is it just me or are there a lot of people posting to the list >responding to things that are non existent or ancient from an archive >or something? They seem to be responding to things out of the archive. Most of them are OLD and a couple of them are really OT. Personally I'd like to filter out any messages from non-members, or at least have them pre-viewed and approved by someone. My $.02 worth, Joe Especially these people mentioning a web site and >asking to buy something. Seems that there has been a lot of that >lately. > > >-- > >/------------------------------------\ >| http://jrollins.tripod.com/ | >| KD7BCY kd7bcy(a)teleport.com | >\------------------------------------/ > ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:45:30 -0400 From: "TeoZ" <teoz(a)neo.rr.com> Subject: Re: Help! need 400k/800k Mac os 6 or 7 diskettes! To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <010b01c38c42$66277d20$3d7ca418(a)neo.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have use my "newer" macs 8500/7500/840av/950/IIfx to make 800k disks for my IIgs and have noticed that the auto inject 1.44 drives use on the older systems (IIfx, 840av, 950) have no problems making disks that are readable on the IIgs while the 8500/7500 non inject floppies cant do it reliably. So your better off using an old quadra to make 800k disks for older machines. I have no idea about writing 400k disks because I dont have any machines that use them. ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:47:09 -0400 From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031006154709.007ba540(a)pop-server.cfl.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:12 PM 10/6/03 -0500, you wrote: >Yes, there is a public archive of the list postings. I kinda thought that's >what the public archives were FOR? I especially like it when they talk >about ancient things *S* > >I filter a lot of these so they never hit the list. But often I let them >through because I feel that is what we are here for.. to be a resource. >Maybe I'm being too lenient? Probably. I've replied to a couple of people looking for things and NONE of them has ever responded so I seldom bother any more. Joe ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:47:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "O. Sharp" <ohh(a)drizzle.com> Subject: RCS/RI Still In Existence? To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310061240280.19026-100000(a)drizzle.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anybody know if the Retrocomputing Society of Rhode Island (http://osfn.org/rcs/) is still around? I've sent a couple of e-mails their way, and tried their phone number, but not with any luck. I saw one of the things on their online "wish-list" up for auction on eBay, and thought about having a go at getting it for them, but it'd be nice to know if they still needed it first. (Not to mention making sure I wasn't bidding _against_ them. <g>) -O.- ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:58:17 -0700 From: Marvin Johnston <marvin(a)rain.org> Subject: VCF - Stuff for Sale To: ClassicCmp <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <3F81C959.8B4B6FAA(a)rain.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Rather than post the stuff here, a link to the things I'll be selling at VCF is at: http://www.rain.org/~marvin/vcf.txt As the week goes by, I'll be adding to the list and updating it as necessary. ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:12:13 -0700 From: "Ed Sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net> Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <004b01c38c4e$83718ae0$262e98ac(a)aoldsl.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" no we just got confused as we all belong to both lists.... but it was freaky when it would appear as a group on the other list.... sometimes we forget there are two lists... no problem just tempory confusion all is well! ed! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? > Yes, there is a public archive of the list postings. I kinda thought that's > what the public archives were FOR? I especially like it when they talk > about ancient things *S* > > I filter a lot of these so they never hit the list. But often I let them > through because I feel that is what we are here for.. to be a resource. > Maybe I'm being too lenient? > > J > > Is it just me or are there a lot of people posting to the list > > responding to things that are non existent or ancient from an archive > > or something? Especially these people mentioning a web site and > > asking to buy something. Seems that there has been a lot of that > > lately. > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:24:35 -0400 From: Robert Maxwell <RMaxwell(a)atlantissi.com> Subject: Re: Intel Programmer IPPS format To: "'cctech(a)classiccmp.org'" <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>, "'dmabry(a)mich.com'" <dmabry(a)mich.com> Message-ID: <9726BA9DE867D51183B900B0D0AB85F8013E4873@INETMAIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Dave, your hazy memory is great. You just filled in a critical blank that has made a world of difference. Searching the planet for references to "IPPS" turned up nothing, but "OMF" is still quite nicely documented on the Web. My favorite file-format reference, www.wotsit.org, has a document for OMF, as do some other sites. Armed with this knowledge, I can now look at modifying an old Motorola S-record to Intel Hex converter with a new front end to suck up the OMF records and spit them out in Hex. All the best, Bob Maxwell rmaxwell(a)atlantissi.com Dave Mabry wrote: > Now, as is normal for me, this is hazy, but I think I > remember what you > are talking about. > > Intel used a format they called "object module format" that > had header > information on each block, and several possible blocks. As I recall, > the MCS48 family, due to its limited memory addressibility, used the > same OMF (object module format) as the 8080. > > Naturally, since Intel defined it, all their tools could read > and write > it. IPPS was the name of the software used to read and write EPROMS, > etc, using Intel's iUP-201 programmer. > > All that being said, I think I can help you. If you don't > have anything > that can read and understand Intel's OMF, I do. I have a > working system > that can execute IPPS. There are other utilities in the > Intel operating > system, ISIS-II, that can also do this. I should be able to convert > your OMF file to an Intel HEX format file. Intel HEX is very > common and > most programmers can understand it. It is also block oriented, but > ascii characters rather than pure binary. > > Sorry to be so wordy, but bottom line is this. (into > Technicolor dream > mode) If you send me your OMF file I can convert it to HEX > and send it > back to you. Hope that will help. > > Dave > > Robert Maxwell wrote: > > This will meet the on-topic age requirement, at least... > > > > For programming devices like processors and EPROMS with > an Intel Universal > > Programmer, > > a file format was used, called "IPPS." I need to program > 8749 processors > > from files > > in IPPS format, and have no working Universal Programmer. > > > > The format appears to be a block-oriented binary, with a > file header > > identifying the > > target device, and headers of indeterminate size preceding > sections of > > binary code. > > Nobody I spoke to at Intel recognizes it. > > > > Does anybody remember, or have access to, > documentation/data or (dreaming > > in Technicolor(R)) > > a utility to convert IPPS files into a less-unique format, > say binary or > > Intel Hex? This > > would save me from having to type in hex values from an old > listing to > > regenerate the code. ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:27:55 +0200 (CEST) From: "Fred N. van Kempen" <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.44.0310062227330.31211-100000(a)vaxlab.pdp11.nl> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > It comes in spurts. I think Jay is still (hopefully) working on a > solution ;) Yeah, lets hope Jay's working on his spurts. --f ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:33:49 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: John Rollins Jr <kd7bcy(a)teleport.com> Subject: Re: DEC cards available Update To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <11306683.1065472434057.JavaMail.root(a)waldorf.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Started to go fast! These are still available: National Semiconductor NS638 - memory card with a 50-pin connector on the front Sigma Information Systems DZV11 clone unknown Emulex - marked TU0210401 M7164 KDA50-Q Q-bus SDI adapter 1 of 2 M7606-AF MicroVAX II CPU M7608-BC not in guide? MicroVAX II RAM M7608-BF I have three of these: M3104 DHV11-A Q 8-line Asynchronous Multiplexor, with DMA These have been spoken for: M7551-CA MSV11-QC Q 4-Mbyte 22-bit parity/CSR MOS RAM M7516-YM DELQA-M Q Qbus to Ethernet Turbo Module, Q22 M8053-MA DMV11 Microprogrammed controller (needs one of M5930-M5931) with DDCMP control ROM (point-to-point or multidrop) Thanks! -JR ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:30:40 -0400 From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? To: General(a)internet1.net, "Discussion(a)internet1.net":On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <3F81D0F0.9090108(a)internet1.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed That was a reply to a message that Chuck McMannis posted. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA Zane H. Healy wrote: >>Is it just me or are there a lot of people posting to the list responding to things that are non existent or ancient from an archive or something? Especially these people mentioning a web site and asking to buy something. Seems that there has been a lot of that lately. > > > I must confess, I was wondering about the "Re: VAXen available" message... It made now sense to me. > > Zane > ------------------------------ Message: 28 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:37:07 -0400 From: chris <cb(a)mythtech.net> Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts " <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <S.0000273761(a)mythtech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >I filter a lot of these so they never hit the list. But often I let them >through because I feel that is what we are here for.. to be a resource. >Maybe I'm being too lenient? I'm wondering if you can somehow mark the message as one that came from someone off list. I bring this up, because I've been confused by some and wondering if responses should go onlist or off list. If the poster is off list, then responses should go directly to them, or they won't get their response for a few months until the archives have circulated thru google and the likes. just my thoughts, I'm not trying to imply it needs to be followed. Nor trying to start a discussion on the topic. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net> ------------------------------ Message: 29 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:39:32 -0400 From: chris <cb(a)mythtech.net> Subject: RE: Help! need 400k/800k Mac os 6 or 7 diskettes! To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts " <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <S.0000273765(a)mythtech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >>Apple stopped having the drives read and write 400 and 800 k disks a >>while ago. > >Actually the System does that... I don't remember when though. Well, yes, I didn't mean to imply that it was a drive limit. Just that Apple stopped letting a user read and write 400 and 800 K disks a while ago (I believe you are right and it was OS 8, but I'm not postive). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net> ------------------------------ Message: 30 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:44:31 -0400 (EDT) From: John Lawson <jpl15(a)panix.com> Subject: Re: Am I seeing things? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.58.0310061638150.28216(a)panix1.panix.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, John Rollins wrote: > > > Is it just me or are there a lot of people posting to the list [snippage] > > It comes in spurts. I think Jay is still (hopefully) working on a > solution ;) > As Jay mentioned - I'm not altogether sure that these messages from folks are a Bad Thing - it never hurts to have 'fresh' sources for collection related possiblilties. Recall that the PDP 11/44 system I own was rescued from a Big Corporation (and certain death) due to the ex-sysop finding classiccmp quite by accident. Now, in the case of blatant commercial exploitative type ads, or spam, then of course it should hopefully be diverted to /dev/nul. But I think a little tolerance shoyuld be shown for folks who are just researching parts and systems - at least we can be polite in our explanations. And yes, these type of "I was searching for X and found your site.." messages *do* seem to come in waves... I dunno... Cheers John ------------------------------ Message: 31 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:57:51 -0700 From: Geoff Reed <geoffr(a)zipcon.net> Subject: Re: Need IIci cache cards To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20031006135647.04a4b0f0(a)mail.zipcon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:47 AM 10/6/03, you wrote: >If I remember the benchmark results correctly, the extra 32k speeds up video >by a few percent, and "Scientific" operations (IE floating point math) by a >few tens of percentage points. > >I've got a 128k cache card and it speeds up everything by quite a bit. >Probably has something to do with the built-in video getting sped up. I have a cache card in my IICX :) ok, so it's an Diimo accellerator with cache on it on an adaptor :) but it speeds everything WAY up... 50 Mhz 030 :) ------------------------------ Message: 32 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:07:33 -0700 From: Marvin Johnston <marvin(a)rain.org> Subject: Posting times To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <3F81D995.9FB4C6DF(a)rain.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anyone else seeing extended times (< 15 minutes or so) before their posts get to the list? Kind of annoying to post something and not see it pop up on the list within a relatively short time!!! ------------------------------ Message: 33 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:31:41 +0100 (BST) From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: Betr.: Acorn Econet To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Message-ID: <m1A6cxE-000J1xC@p850ug1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text Size: 1515 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/attachments/20031006/6abf51aa/att achment-0001.ksh ------------------------------ Message: 34 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:08:18 -0700 From: "John A. Dundas III" <dundas(a)caltech.edu> Subject: GE 73 bulbs for RL02 To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <v03130306bba79781591d(a)[131.215.48.178]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Can anyone recommend a good source for the GE 73 bulbs used in the front panel switches of the RL02? A web search turned up Atlanta Light Bulbs. They claim to have them for $0.99/ea, minimum quantity 10. However when you try to check out, the minimum $ order is ~$30. I don't mind buying 10, but 30 is too many and I'm not really short on other bulbs at this time. Any suggestions? Thanks, John ------------------------------ Message: 35 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:10:18 -0400 (EDT) From: John Lawson <jpl15(a)panix.com> Subject: VCF Want: Pertec formatters for Kennedy 9100 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.58.0310061807120.28216(a)panix1.panix.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As message header states: I'm looking for one or two Pertec formatter cards for Kennedy 91xx series tape drives - with cables, if possible. Have $$$ for same - will be at VCF looking to trade $ for Stuff. Also, I'm looking for 2 or 3 DEC RL02 drives, one at least in good working shape - with an interconnect cable and terminator. Can pick up in Bay Area.... Cheerz John ------------------------------ Message: 36 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:21:49 -0700 From: Al Kossow <aek(a)spies.com> Subject: Re: VCF Want: Pertec formatters for Kennedy 9100 To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Message-ID: <200310062221.h96MLnbh015108(a)spies.com> > I'm looking for one or two Pertec formatter > cards for Kennedy 91xx series tape drives - with cables, if possible. 91xx formatters are separate rack mounted boxes (9219) www.spies.com/aek/pdf/kennedy/006-0002-01_9219_formatter.pdf is the manual for the 9219 If you are using these on DEC systems, you may have better luck finding embedded Unibus or Qbus formatters made by Emulex, Plessey, Dilog, etc. ------------------------------ Message: 37 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:23:37 -0700 From: "Patrick Rigney" <patrick(a)evocative.com> Subject: SemiDisk Solid State Disk Emulator To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <NABBLBMGIPBIOFEOPLODMEJJPIAA.patrick(a)evocative.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone have a PDF scan of the manual for a SemiDisk solid-state disk emulator? Please contact me if you do... --Patrick ------------------------------ Message: 38 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:24:23 -0400 From: Ian Primus <ian_primus(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Help! need 400k/800k Mac os 6 or 7 diskettes! To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <D65F51DA-F84B-11D7-91F9-000393D7845A(a)yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed IIRC, you could no longer use 400k disks as of System 7.6, but you can still use 800k disks up through System 9, provided of course that you have a Mac with an internal floppy drive. The external USB drives are, for the most part, PC clone laptop style drives, and therefore can not read or write the GCR disks. But, you _can_ write 400k floppies on System 7.6 and up with Disk Copy. You can't mount the image, and you can't mount the disk you created, but it does work. Once again, you have to have a Mac with an internal floppy drive. Why Apple stopped offering floppy drives, I don't know. I know that the first peripheral I bought for my G4 was a floppy drive, and I still hate the fact that it's slow as hell, and doesn't have auto eject. Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 04:39 PM, chris wrote: >>> Apple stopped having the drives read and write 400 and 800 k disks a >>> while ago. >> >> Actually the System does that... I don't remember when though. > > Well, yes, I didn't mean to imply that it was a drive limit. Just that > Apple stopped letting a user read and write 400 and 800 K disks a while > ago (I believe you are right and it was OS 8, but I'm not postive). > > -chris > <http://www.mythtech.net> > ------------------------------ Message: 39 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:56:36 -0700 From: Al Kossow <aek(a)spies.com> Subject: Re: Posting times To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Message-ID: <200310062256.h96Mua2p019520(a)spies.com> Anyone else seeing extended times (< 15 minutes or so) before their posts get to the list? -- I'm more concerned that the archive sort by date isn't corrected for local time zone. Since the sort by thread doesn't always work right, I just watch the list from the archive, but now the replies can show up in the list before the original question, depending on when the original message was posted. ------------------------------ Message: 40 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:05:02 -0400 From: Bob Shannon <bshannon(a)tiac.net> Subject: Re: black paper tape = mylar? To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <3F81F51E.1060507(a)tiac.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Mylar paper tape has never come in black, as far as I know. Black paper tape was sold for use with photoelectric paper tape readers like HP's, which work, sometimes with yellow paper (until any oil get on the tape anyway). But the black stuff makes even a sloppy optical reader work great, and it does not kill the edges on your punch like Mylar will do. Jay West wrote: >I was wanting to get some mylar paper tape. There is an auction on Ebay for >6 rolls of "black paper tape"... can one generally assume that black paper >tape is mylar and not just paper? > >The URL is http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2562042672 > >Can anyone advise if this is likely to be mylar or not? > >Regards, > >Jay West > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > ------------------------------ Message: 41 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:29:54 -0400 From: "Andrew Strouse" <kittstr(a)access-4-free.com> Subject: Re: Fat (512K) Mac Revival? To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <000201c38c5e$c068e460$7d444a43@amscomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There doesn't seem to be any battery in the back at all. Where do I go about getting one of those? I haven't cracked the unit open yet but I will and check the power supply. Andrew Strouse ( kittstr(a)access-4-free.com ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Hartman" <alhartman(a)yahoo.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Fat (512K) Mac Revival? > It could be something as simple as a bad PRAM battery. > There's a little door in the upper back, that has a > battery in it. > > Open it and see if there's a battery in there. If it > hasn't exploded... You probably can try replacing that > as a start. > > Next would be the Power Supply/Analog board. > > But, yes... You should be able to buy a replacement > cheaper than fixing that unit. Though, you might find > buyers for the parts to help fund that. > > Regards, > Al Hartman > > > > From: "Andrew Strouse" <kittstr(a)access-4-free.com> > > > > The recent discussion about reviving a Mac SE/30 > > reminded me that I have a "fat mac" in my closet > > collecting dust. I found it after a yard sale a > > few years ago. ( I like to go late and see what > > finds I can get for nothing because the people just > > want the stuff out of their house.) I remember > > when I plugged it in, nothing happened. No sounds, > > lights, bars, patterns, sad/happy macs, etc. Does > > anyone have any suggestions of what to do to > > attempt to get it running. Is it worth it? (I'd > > like to play with it but could I find another one > > that works for less than it will take to fix?) > > It came with a large box of disks, and external > > drive, mouse and keyboard, so it seemed like a > > complete system, except that it doesn't work. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Andrew Strouse > >( kittstr(a)access-4-free.com ) > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Message: 42 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:11:46 -0400 From: chris <cb(a)mythtech.net> Subject: Re: Help! need 400k/800k Mac os 6 or 7 diskettes! To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts " <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <S.0000273836(a)mythtech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >IIRC, you could no longer use 400k disks as of System 7.6, but you can >still use 800k disks up through System 9, provided of course that you >have a Mac with an internal floppy drive. I can't reliably read or write 800K disks in my PM 6500 with OS 9.0.4. Haven't been able to for a few OS versions. Also can't in my PM 9600. It attempts it, and is sometimes works for reading an 800K disk. It can also on occasion write to 800K disks, but it can never format them. It will attempt a format, it will even complete it without complaint... but the disk will be undreadable in machines running older OS versions. If I format in an older machine, I can then get a few writes to the disk before the data is unreadable in an older machine (and if the disk is freshly formatted, then I can usually get one or two reads as well). So based on personal experience, I just chalk it up that Apple stopped letting you do both 400 and 800 (with 400 being right out) >Why Apple stopped >offering floppy drives, I don't know. Cost cutting. They were trying to get the iMac down to as cheap a build as possible, and they knew that most consumers would have little need for a floppy drive in the long run. So it was a place to shave a few bucks off the manufacturing costs. Alas when they choose to do it, it was still a tad premature, as yes, in the LONG run, most consumers wouldn't need a floppy drive... but until they migrated their entire collection of old disks to something else, then they still needed it (but its a typical catch-22... if Apple left the drive in, no consumer would migrate their stuff in anticipation for the removal of the drive, so the consumer wasn't going to stop needing the drive, until right after the drive was no longer there) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net> End of cctalk Digest, Vol 2, Issue 10 *************************************

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IBM 5285

by g.vanzundert＠chello.nl

Hi there, My name is Cor van Zundert and I work for IBM. In the 80's I've been working on the IBM 5285, which has been used as a programmable data entry station. It worked with a Data Entry RPG programming language and was the first machine in history where data comunication (based on SNA) was programmable.

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Software for Data I/O 29a

by aloerchner＠hotmail.com

Hi Lance, I came across your name while searching the web for Data I/O 29a. I have had such a unit for several years, but have been unable to locate the software to drive it. It seems to me that it is a DOS application. Would you have the software available? -Axel-

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FA: more DEC cards

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Just finished listing a pile of DEC cards on E-bay. See <http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=rigdonj> Joe

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Available: Televideo TS-806/20 computer

by ss＠allegro.com

Hi, Available: Televideo TS-806/20 computer Location: Cupertino / San Jose, CA ("Bay Area"). Cost: free (but pay for shipping). Condition: unknown Comes with: Apple III monitor, nothing else (nada)

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How do _you_ move equipment? What "tools" do you use?

by jplist＠kiwigeek.com

Greetings; I am faced with picking up a sizeable IBM some hours from where I live in the next few weeks. What I had originally planned to do has fallen through, and now I am left trying to work out how best to lift what has been estimated as 800+lbs of 1978 IBM. I have a decent half-ton pickup truck, its more than plenty for carrying this machine home. The magic trick is - how do I get the heavy sucker into the deck? I was planning on "borrowing" another truck with a lift-gate on it, to lift the IBM up to the pickup deck height, and then waffling it into the pickup. That has fallen through, and actually renting one is, as far as I'm concerned, cost prohibitive ($78 + 29c/mile + $150 deposit). If you were to move this IBM, how would you have done it? Keep in mind while I can cover $100 worth of gas for my pickup - more than that is a pinch. JP

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Fluke pods - request for quote, revised request

by micheladam＠theedge.ca

We have 2 of each available, priced at one gazillion dollars each. Our bulk discount starts at quantity 3, and is one half a gazillion dollars. Please contact us for advanced payment to our Cayman Island bank. Tony (T) Soprano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Mallet - Artfromny - formerly A218(a)aol.com" <artgames(a)nycap.rr.com> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:46 am Subject: Fluke pods - request for quote, revised request > > Please quote for the below items in any quantity you may have up > to 2 each. > I am also looking for "closeout" deals on larger quantities of > Fluke pods in > bulk, assorted numbers. > > quantity 2 - 9000A-8085 pods > quantity 2 - 9000A-6809 pods > > Please note - I need the pods themselves not just the manuals > > Please include air insured shipping to US zip 12118. Payment will > be made > in > certified funds in advance of shipping. Thank you > > Art Mallet > >

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FA: S-100 system, H19, SWTPC TVT

by dave＠mitton.com

I have placed the following items on eBay for auction: A working Heathkit H19 video terminal: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51280&item=3055591307 An Integrand S-100 chassis with two CPU and floppy disk controllers, two Shugart 8-inch disk drives, and an assortment of support boards. This was a CBBS system in the late 1970s until some problems developed. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4193&item=2762098884 And from the fixer-upper & parts shelf; a Southwest Technical Products, CT-1024, TV Typewriter. Not working, but a complete bit of history that someone could revive. Includes a TV Typewriter Cookbook, and Cheap Video Cookbook. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2762098937 Thanks, Dave.

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RFQ Fluke pods

by artgames＠nycap.rr.com

Hi I saw a vectorlist mention that you had Fluke pods. Please quote for quantity 2 - 9000A-8085 quantity 2 - 9000A-6809 Please include air insured shipping to US zip 12118. Payment will be made in certified funds in advance of shipping. Thank you Art Mallet Art NOTE: The tax message below applies only to items that I am selling NOT items that I am buying or have bought or won on eBay. If I have posted an item for sale or this email is in reference to an item that I have for sale, NY State sales tax of 7.25% applies to all sales shipped to a NY State address or picked up at my warehouse.

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MCM/70 : first "laptop"?

by sieler＠allegro.com

Hi, My candidate for the first "laptop" is the MCM/70, from 1973. It was an 8008 computer, with APL in ROM, a one line 32-character video display, dual cassettes for mass storage, internal batteries (so it could run "on your lap" for a bit :), and "virtual memory" via the casettes. Some more info at: http://www.yorku.ca/yfile/archive/index.asp?Article=1044 http://www.cs.yorku.ca/~zbigniew/MCM_col.html I got a phone call yesterday from a guy who owns a working MCM/70 ... that he bought new in 1975. Sadly (for me :), he doesn't want to part with it :( He confirmed that it could run for a short while on batteries. The MCM/70 was announced in 1973. I'm not sure of the actual first shipping date, but his was received in Jan 1975. (The Computer History Museum's MCM/70 is dated 1974 on the display card.) Misc notes about the MCM/70 from the guy... He ordered his MCM/70 in August, 1974 ... and started threatening legal action in December ... that got him a machine in January 1975. (I'm not 100% sure of the months.) This makes me wonder: did the machine *ever* ship in 1973 or 1974, or did it first ship in 1975? He said that if the batteries were low, powering on the machine often resulted in a failure in the power supply. He reduced the problem by (1) adding a 10-ohm resistor (somewhere unknown); and (2) switching to a different kind of battery pack (instead of the individual batteries). Did I mention that he doesn't want to sell it? I'm working with him on trying to copy/scan some of the material he has about the computer (including original advertisements). Stan

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experiences with portable LCD TVs for classic micros?

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I have four Timex Sinclair micros sitting in my basement and I've been >thinking about turning one (or more) into the world's slowest >"franken-laptop" using one of those portable LCD TVs that seem to be >on sale at every second-hand store & pawn shop for $10-$20. >Has anyone had any experiences in the quality of the TV tuner in >these portables? Will I have to keep re-tuning it every 10 minutes >or should I look for one with some method of locking into a channel? >(or are they too fussy to bother with?) >How about screen resolution? Will I be able to make out the 32 characters >per line on such a tiny screen? I have an old Casio one, and it sucks... at least as a TV. But then, for what I expected from it, its actually really good... if that makes sense. I had low expectations when I bought it years ago, what I wanted it for was to kill time while sitting in a car in a parking lot for 12 hours a day. For that, it worked great. But, it was about the level I expected... crappy resolution, tiny screen, and almost no reception. Its a 2.5" screen model, and if that is the size you are looking at, then I don't think there is any way you can use it for a computer. You can't make out any real details on the TV, so I would expect that you won't be able to read jack squat as a computer screen. Also, every time I turn the Casio on, it starts the tuning of the channels back at the begining, and there is no way to fine tune a channel. You press the channel up or down buttons and it scrolls until it finds something other than static then stops. You get whatever it deems a channel, and nothing more. BUT, I have also used a portable LCD screen that was meant for a Playstation and the likes. This doesn't have a TV tuner, and is a 5" screen with MUCH better resolution. It uses standard NTSC composite input for video (RCA connector), and RCA connectors for Audio. I have it hooked up as the monitoring screen for a closed circuit video recording system. I personally have been rather impressed with it considering I bought it new for $60. VCR on screen displays are fully readable on it, so I would think your 32 characters per line would be fine (I've never counted, but my guess is the VCR OSD text is at least 32 cpl). The only downside I can see is this screen doesn't accept battery power. It does have a power pass thru that lets you piggy back it to the game system it was designed for (which I think was actually a Dreamcast, but I don't recall). And it came with a 12 volt car adaptor for powering the screen and game system. I know when I bought it, there were other models, and IIRC there were some that took batteries. I bought mine specifically because it fit the exact needs I had for it, and battery power wasn't one of the items on my list. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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DSSI connector Q...

by meltie＠meltie.com

Hi guys Would a cable described as "VHDCI connectors, but they only have 50 pins. They are female connectors." possibly be an external DSSI cable? thanks alex/melt

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experiences with portable LCD TVs for classic micros?

by dzubint＠vcn.bc.ca

I have four Timex Sinclair micros sitting in my basement and I've been thinking about turning one (or more) into the world's slowest "franken-laptop" using one of those portable LCD TVs that seem to be on sale at every second-hand store & pawn shop for $10-$20. Has anyone had any experiences in the quality of the TV tuner in these portables? Will I have to keep re-tuning it every 10 minutes or should I look for one with some method of locking into a channel? (or are they too fussy to bother with?) How about screen resolution? Will I be able to make out the 32 characters per line on such a tiny screen? Thomas

22 years, 5 months

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Kaypro 10 or Kaypro II

by blrab＠polson.net

Dear People: What's your asking price for a working Kaypro 10? What's your asking price for a working Kaypro II, with CPM OS on disks? Physical condition not important, but it should work. I live in NW Montana. Very familiar with the Kaypro machines. Thanks, Bob Bushnell blrab(a)polson.net

22 years, 5 months

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Retro-Tech from TV: Thunderbirds

by cb＠mythtech.net

> Thunderbirds is still playing on some tv stations here. It has something >of a cult following in Oz. I believe it plays on TechTV here is the USA (or did at least not too long ago when I caught a few episodes). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 5 months

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[ADV] The Vintage Computer Forum

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

Hello, Hopefully I don't offend anyone by posting this. I just want to share that I'm running a web-based forum off of my website at www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum. ? The forums already have over 200 registered users and nearly 2,000 posts and I believe that they are providing a valuable service to the community, just like these mail lists. I believe that there is room for a variety of these communities within the vintage computer community and I invite you, if you have time, to stop by and see what the VC Forum might offer you. ? Please forgive my intrusion, ? ?? Erik Klein ?? www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum ?? The Vintage Computer Forum

22 years, 5 months

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Heathkit tips

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I found this on the net <http://ww_heco.home.mindspring.com/heco_fix.html>. It cover all the Heathkit stuff, not just the computers but I though it might still be usefull. Joe

22 years, 5 months

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Free DEC Handbooks

by bob＠jfcl.com

I have several copies of the following DEC handbooks to give away completely free: Microcomputers and Memories (1982) Microcomputer Interfaces (1980) The only catch is that you either a) have to pick yours up in Milpitas CA, or b) you have to send me an SASE big enough to hold them. Figure one 8" x 10" padded envelope with 2lbs (they're thick books!) postage each. Thanks, Bob Armstrong

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A real PDP-8 that you can hang on your wall!

by bob＠jfcl.com

>Your front panel is neat, the whole thing is neat. So, how about connecting >the front panel to my PDP8/A Omnibus? Does your PDP-8 have an Omnibus at >all or did you invent a completely different bus or no bus at all? Electrically speaking the front panel is not anything like a PDP-8 front panel; probably the most practical way to connect it to a PDP-8/A would be to design a new circuit board and just keep the front panel plastic that I've made. You can buy the front panel plastic alone if you want to undertake such a project. The SBC6120 does have an expansion bus, but it's not OMNIBUS. A SBC6120 to OMNIBUS interface is possible, but it would take a little work. It's all open source, though, so feel free! Bob

22 years, 5 months

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Need help: Restoring HP41C

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

This query would probably best be answered by any list member who works with classic calculators. I have an HP41C in pretty decent condition. The problem is that, over time, the rubber pads under the flex circuit below the display, and the elastomer contacts joining the logic board to the keyboard, seem to have deteriorated enough that the thing is wildly intermittent. What's the best way to deal with these issues? Would I be better off simply replacing the two elastomer strips? If so, where would I get them from? Thanks much... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green, aka Steve Smith)

22 years, 5 months

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Superboard (C1P) Rev D video modes

by dfnr2＠yahoo.com

Hello, I just got a superboard Rev D, which is newer than the models I remember. Looking through a schematic, I found an addressable latch controlled by a signal "/32" It turns out that you can poke a 1 to D800 (just like the C2) and get narrow characters -- 48 on a line. I also see a slot for an extra 2114/8T28 and an extra 16-pin dip connector. Was there a superboard or C1 marketed with color or 64-character line options? Does anyone have any documentation regarding this and other features of the Rev D board? Thanks, David __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

22 years, 5 months

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OT: Need help installing Darwin

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: This weekend I'm dabbling with Apple's Darwin for the x86, trying to install it on a recent vintage "scrap" PC. Has anyone on the list experimented with Darwin and got a fully working and configured system? I can log in, so the system works but it doesn't seem like anything was installed except the base OS. Please contact me off-list. Thanks. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

22 years, 5 months

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Sun Ultra1 - onboard AUI/UTP setting??

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hi, We seem to have a semi-dead Ultra1 here. Although Sol9 seems to work OK, it refuses to talk to the Ethernet (a crosscable connected to a Win box.) Cabling and such is fine, as is Win box- this works on other amchines, just not the U1. I am beginning to suspect the U1 is trying to talk through its AUI port, rather than the UTP. Any OpenBoot commands or switches that I need be aware of? Thanks, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://www.pdp11.nl/VAXlab/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Sunnyvale, CA, USA

22 years, 5 months

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Got an iMAC, now what?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Never mind, I figured it out. Found out that Apple doesn't know how to make power cords but HP does :-) Joe > > I was in a surplus store this morning and some guy walked in with an iMAC and said "Here you can have it." and walked out! I brought it home and hokked it up but I can't even figure out how to turn the darnned thing on! Can anyone help? It's a model M5521 350MHz G3 "Blueberry" iMAC. > > Joe

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Up for sale: HP-41C and VAXen Boards

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Since this is another of my shameless plugs, I'll keep it short. I've posted an HP-41C calculator, a bunch of MicroVAX II boards, and some other goodies on E-pay. Do a search by seller for 'bftbell' (sans quotes) if you're interested. Thanks much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green, aka Steve Smith)

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OT: Retro-Tech from TV: Thunderbirds

by cb＠mythtech.net

>To the members of the list that are my age and don't have >time to waste surfing websites and lists for Gerry Anderson's >'Thunderbirds'. Well they made the film! I figure there's >maybe five of you out there that care but don't know. The Thunderbirds is another shining example of TV that amazes me that I used to love. Heck I had a bunch of toys from that show (I think it was Matchbox that put out a line of "cars" from the show) Although nothing has yet to beat the Smurfs... I watched an episode of that the other day on Cartoon Network, and I'm convinced that my parents used to feed me crack... that's the only explanation I can come up with as to why I used to wake up early on a Saturday morning and excitedly watch those little blue idiots! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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A real PDP-8 that you can hang on your wall!

by bob＠jfcl.com

Many of you have already heard of the SBC6120, our single board PDP-8/E clone that you can build from a kit. The SBC6120 now has a complete lights and switches front panel, and the entire assembly, including a hard disk drive, is about 9" by 15" and 2 1/2" thick and can be framed and hung on the wall like a painting. You can see a photo of Debee with one at http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/images/Debee%20and%20FP6120.jpg Everything is fully functional; all the lights and switches work as you'd expect and the SBC6120 is able to run most PDP-8 software including FOCAL and OS/8. You can read all about it on our web site at http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/SBC6120-2.htm and http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/SBC6120_Front_Panel.htm The entire project is open source, and you can download everything there is to know about the SBC6120 and front panel, including manuals, schematics, and firmware source code, from http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Download.htm If you like what you see then you can have one for your own wall, and we'd be happy to sell you a kit of parts to help you build one. Visit our web store for ordering information http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Store.htm Thanks, Bob Armstrong

22 years, 5 months

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Data I/O Series 22 EPROM Programmer help

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 19, 18:10, Ian Primus wrote: > > I have a very large pile of 27cx321 > chips, made by a company called ICT, but I have been unable to program > them, since my programmer doesn't have the codes for them in the > manual, and they don't work at the normal 2732 setting. No, they don't, and if you try it, you may destroy them. They're high-speed (usually 35ns, but the suffix -35, -40, or -45 gives the actual number) 4k x 8 UV-erasable EPROMs, and to get the speed they use a different cell construction and a different programming technique. The bits in an erased device are "undefined" and whether you want a '1' or a '0' you have to program the actual value. Pinout is pretty much the same as a 2732 except that pin 20 is /CS1 instead of /OE, and pin 18 is CS2 (active high) instead of /CE. My ICT data book doesn't give the programming algorithm, which is obviously proprietary. It just says contact ICT or use a DATA I/O Model 29B with Unipak 2 or 2B firmware version V15. Oh, and like every other EPROM manufacturer I know, ICT say that exposing it to UV for longer than necessary will affect reliability, shorten the life, or in extreme cases, destroy the device, so don't expose them to a UV eraser (standard 12mW/sq.cm) for more than 20 minutes. Overnight is a bad idea! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 5 months

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IBM Displaywriter

by bmachacek＠pcisys.net

I was just able to obtain two IBM 6580 Displaywriters. I think they came out around 1980. They came with the dual 8" floppy disk drives and keyboards, but no monitors. The units are 6580s, the drives are 6360s, and keyboards are 630X-91-xxxxxxxxx. These are big heavy units. I'm not big on old IBM equipment so will consider offers of a new home for these units. Contact me for additional information on these units. I'm located in Colo. Springs. Bill

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OT - Geek Destinations in Kansas City?

by bill＠timeguy.com

We'll be in Kansas City over a weekend in the near future. Are there any good surplus stores, museums, geek toy stores, etc, that we should be sure to visit? Suggestions appreciated!

22 years, 5 months

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Info? AST Preview! card

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found this today. Anybody know anything about it? I tried to search the net for info but got too much clutter (everybody is putting "preview" in their ads!) It's a full length 8 bit ISA card and has a DB-9F and D(something)-25F connector on the slot cover. Besides all the TTL glue chips, it has eight 4264 (64k x 1?) memories and a HD46505SP-2 (CRT Controller)(6845 equivilent?) LSIC and a 2732 EPROM on it. Joe

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AppleTalk card for PC

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found this today and thought it was some kind of video card. Bought it and brought it hame and checked the net <http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/ltalk/pc_hardware.html> and found that it's an AppleTalk card for a PC. PN 630-5306-(blank). Anybody need it? Joe

22 years, 5 months

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Got an iMAC, now what?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I was in a surplus store this morning and some guy walked in with an iMAC and said "Here you can have it." and walked out! I brought it home and hokked it up but I can't even figure out how to turn the darnned thing on! Can anyone help? It's a model M5521 350MHz G3 "Blueberry" iMAC. Joe

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73 magazine quits

by CordaAJ＠NSWC.NAVY.MIL

I was there with my brother... we both kinda looked at each other and the people around us when he starting in on the moon landing stuff. The audience was making a huge effort _not_ to appear shocked... unfortunately it wasn't working. I didn't know what to make of it at first... I was hoping it was some sort of lead-in for a joke... but it wasn't. Oh well, we all go down hill eventually... -al- -acorda(a)1bigred.com -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Pope [mailto:bpope@wordstock.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 3:47 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: 73 magazine quits And thusly Vintage Computer Festival spake: > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, John Lawson wrote: > > > Not that everyone always agreed with Wayne - but it's sad to see a > > Publication cease after so many years... > > Oh, he's a swell guy. I'm sure he didn't really mean it when at the first > VCF East he came up right after Eldon Hall, the guy who designed the > Apollo Guidance Computer for the Moon Mission, and proceeded to sketch out > his evidence debunking the US moon landing. > He even had a booklet! ;) We should have taken a picture of the audience when he started doing that - I betcha everybody had a shocked look on their faces with their mouths wide open. When he stayed on topic he was interesting, but when he went off... he really went off! Cheers, Bryan

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AT&T 6310 PC

by general＠aztecfreenet.org

I have an AT&T 6310 personal computer I'd like to restore. Unfortunately I have no documentation at all. The machine works, but I'm not sure its drives and cards are original. I have no idea what the (unlabeled) motherboard jumpers do. If anyone on the list has information about this machine I would very much like to communicate with them. Initial questions: What were the original hard drives and floppy drives? What, in detail, were the original cards? What are the functions of the motherboard jumpers? Thanks in advance, Jim Carter

22 years, 5 months

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Fwd: Your message to cctalk awaits moderator approval

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

FYI to the list... I did NOT attempt to send the message referenced in the attached bounce notice. It appears that some spammer is forging my domain ID again. If the moderator is reading this, please do NOT let the spam spewage post. Thanks much. *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 23-Oct-03 at 22:54 cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org <cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org> wrote: >Your mail to 'cctalk' with the subject > > Decrease your CPU temperature up to 20C! > >Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > >The reason it is being held: > > Post by non-member to a members-only list > >Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive >notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel >this posting, please visit the following URL: > > >http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/confirm/cctalk/4670ebe5ab8d23b380aa1bf2b3… > *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green, aka Steve Smith)

22 years, 5 months

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Any Scelbi collectors out there?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

The title says it all. Joe

22 years, 5 months

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TRS 600 Laptop On eBay

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Some guy is asking $1500 for a rare 600? If anyone is looking for one here it is, with 8 days left. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2760526117

22 years, 5 months

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73 magazine quits

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk > >> More like a tube short of a Zenith Trans-Oceanic. > >A 1L6 short of a Trans-Oceanic? > >-tony > Hi Tony You would have a few extra 1L6's lying around. I could always us a spare. I'm also looking for XV199's and UV199's. Dwight

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73 saying 73

by stevew＠ka6s.com

Just wanted through my two cents worth concerning Mr. Green. I've been licensed since 1974 (17 at the time) and have seen him twice in person. The first is actually some what related to this list considering it was the very first personal computer convention held in Albuquerque, NM in 1975. Now I had only been licensed for a year but already had a low opinion of Mr. Green. Seeing him walk around with his entourage didn't change that opinion much. The thing I remember most about the convention was the Home-brew section. There was one guy out of maybe 6 displays that had done the following (and appropriately blew me away.) He took a HW101 (heathkit SSB transceiver) and built an RTTY modem. He also built a digital control for the transceiver that allowed computer control of the frequency. He used his Altair to work an RTTY radio contest automatically! It was sitting there working contacts as he described it. He was perhaps 24. That was one hell of an engineering demonstration to my teenage eyes. I recall Mr. Green walking by and putting down that particular display. That didn't impress me either! Now fast forward to perhaps 1995. I sat behind him at an ARRL convention, and was rather frail looking. At that point I actually felt sorry for him - imagine THAT! Through the years I've also known a couple guys that knew him because they were local to his home area. Both friends didn't speak very well of him from that angle either. I've never subscribed to 73 mostly because of his hair-brained ideas. I have looked at it upon occasion. All things considered, I'm still sorry to see the mag pull the plug. Steve Wilson, KA6S

22 years, 5 months

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Token Ring JetDirect

by cb＠mythtech.net

I know some of you use Token Ring, so I'm offering this here before it gets tossed. I have an HP JetDirect Token Ring MIO. Its a J2373 card. This is an internal JetDirect card for HP printers. I'm not sure which printers are supported by it, but I'm sure a quick look on HPs site will reveal that to anyone that cares. The card has a single DE-9 Female connector on it. Its untested as I've never had a token ring network, but it came along with a rather large box of token ring cards I aquired, and some of you have gotten those cards, and no one has complained that they didn't work (save for one person, but that was because I did a crappy job in packing them and a few of the crate load were damaged in shipping). Just cover postage and its yours. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 5 months

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Nice VT420 available...make an offer

by vcf＠siconic.com

I have a nice VT420 to offer anyone who wants to make a reasonable (i.e. make it worth my time to pack) offer. Contact me privately please. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 5 months

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Al K's site?

by aek＠spies.com

> I sure hope Al believes in backups. -- I did a complete backup a day before the disc died completely on Wed. It will be a day or two before I can get everything restored (around 20gb)

22 years, 5 months

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73 magazine quits-- vintage radios

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Ben Check the links at: http://www.plazaearth.com/usr/gasperi/theory.htm Dwight >From: "ben franchuk" <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca> > >Tony Duell wrote: >>>More like a tube short of a Zenith Trans-Oceanic. >> >> >> A 1L6 short of a Trans-Oceanic? >> >> -tony >> >> > >Nope, the 1L6 works fine, want to replace the caps >and rebuild the power supply ( The set is older than >I am ) and get real DOC's. The problem seems to be >with the auto-magic gain control and or the selenium >rectifier as it plays for about 10 seconds and then >it goes quiet. Ben. > > > >

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73 magazine quits

by jpl15＠panix.com

September was the last issue of '73' magazine - published by Wayne Green - who began (and lost) Byte, then started Kilobaud.. Not that everyone always agreed with Wayne - but it's sad to see a Publication cease after so many years... C'est la Vie, I guess... Cheers John KB6SCO

22 years, 5 months

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Al K's site?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody know what's wrong with Al Kossow's website (www.spies.com/aek/)? It's been down for a couple of days now. Joe

22 years, 5 months

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FA: MORE DEC stuff, Motorola HDS-200 pods, AT&T manuals

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I've been busy today. Take a look, <http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=rigdonj>. I will be posting more tomorrow. Keep checking. Thanks. Joe

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Dust covers

by PLancashire＠columbia.com

where i live there was (now out of biz) a place that made vinyl auto seat covers, for small items like you mentioned, the cost was about $10-$15 each. After they went of biz, I made my own. But you have to get a good sewing machine :) -pete -----Original Message----- From: TeoZ [mailto:teoz@neo.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:40 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Dust covers What is the best material for making dusk covers for computers? I want to make covers for my 8/16 bit computers like the Amiga 500/1200 Atari 1040ST, C64c, C128, Tandy 1000HX, etc.

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