I picked this disk up the other day knowing almost nothing about
mainframe storage methods. I've spent hours upon hours trying to figure
out what exactly this is but the closest thing I can get to it is an
RL02 removable cartridge disk, but it's not (I think)! I don't see how
the same drive could read these since the holes are so much different,
but it's the same general idea.
I'm not sending attachments, I put them on a
site for you to look at, the url is http://www.spiritsphere.com/14inchdisk.html ,
any and all information you could give me about this disk would be
greatly appreciated, I'm still in the dark about it, and have found very
little reference at all to CDC ever making a cartridge like this.
Thank you!
Best Wishes :)
Tim
I would not attempt to remove the 5 1/4" drive from the compaq, at least
not yet. Someone someplace must have a 5 1/4 DOS disk and simple terminal
program like Smart Term that you can use with a modem to download files to
your compaq.
1) Maybe you already tried this, but ....After the computer completes the
memory check and spins the 5 1/4" diskette drive, just after the drive
light stops flashing, hit CTRL+BREAK to halt the autoexec.bat file from
initiating the Novell program. You may have to try more than once, but you
should be able to break into a DOS prompt of some kind.
Next, archive the programs that call the Novell program so that they will
not be executed when you boot.
2) type this command at the DOS prompt : copy autoexec.bat autoexec.nov [enter]
3) type this command at the DOS prompt: del autoexec.bat [enter]
4) type this command at the DOS prompt : copy config.sys config.nov [enter]
5) type this command at the DOS prompt: del config.sys [enter]
reboot the compaq. should end with a C> prompt only.
6) create a DOS boot disk for the Linux box (oldest OS you can find), and
reboot linux box into DOS.
7) you can use the serial ports on both computers to transfer files (via
modem or cable).
Possibilities:
a) There is a program called Laplink that you can use to copy files to the
Compaq without using the diskette drive. You'll need a straight-through
serial cable, or a parallel cable that's made specially for
laplink. Using serial mode only (somehow) laplink can install itself on a
target computer (compaq) through the serial port without having to install
software via the disk drive.
b) You can use Smart Term (or some modem program) to upload and download
files from linux computer to the compaq. You'd need two modems and two
phone lines. And you'd need a modem program (like smart term) on 5
1/4. you can download smart term to the linux box, and then copy to DOS
formatted disks so that when you boot with DOS disk, you can swap out for
the smart term disk.
What I did for these situations was go to the Good will and find a PC with
both 5 1/4 and 3.5" drives. Very useful! Every vintage computer hacker
needs a system with multiple drive types.
>Hey y'all... I need some help. I recently acquired a Compaq Portable(ye
right... at 35LBS no one is crazy enough to carry this machine >around)
II... with a hard drive and a 5.25 floppy disk drive. The hard drive
apparently has MSDOS 3.2 and some Novell application. When >booted up it
first checks the memory then it checks active partions... then it starts
going in some kinda loop looking for a file server that >isn't there. I
don't have any other 5.25 floppy drives so I am unable to create disks to
transfer files to this box. I was wondering if it was >possible to connect
the floppy drive to my linux box and copy the files to the disk(s) from
there and retransfer the drive to the compaq to >use. Problem is that the
Linux box is an RH9 platform on a PII (686) system. Would RH9 even have the
needed drivers for a drive this >ancient? Can this be done or am I, for all
intensive purposes, screwed?
>Lyos Gemini Norezel
Yup.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 3:03 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: [OT] Strange/Help
Is anyone able to open http://java.sun.com/?
Hi folks,
Got this mail in from Jo Ann Pryor who has a bundle of stuff available.
Please contact her directly if you're interested :)
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Jo Ann Pryor (wjpryor(a)sunset.net) on March 2nd, 2004 at 03:33AM (GMT).
Former elementary teacher that has an Apple III, and Apple IIe (128k), epson
MX80 printer, Brothers HP 15 and tons of software, all manuals, computer
magazines, extra cards in both machines.
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Owner & Webmaster, Binary Dinosaurs
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(
I'm considering buying a copy and I'd like to talk to anyone that's used
it to scan documents. I have questions about what features are in the
different versions and what scanner interfaces are supported in the
different versions.
Joe
Today I got two boxs of old Intel computer manuals that a friend of mine
dug up in Vermont. In one of the manuals are some brochures for
Ryan-McFarland BASIC. I've never heard of RM BASIC for any system before.
Anybody know anything about it?
Joe
Yo Zane: I just got some rather bizarre e-mail from you personally,
which I don't think you sent - but *something* posing as you did..
Best look to your System, and the Security thereof...
Email me off list for a description...
It was amusing, in a surreal sort of way. ;}
Cheers
John
Ok, new bounties. I'm offering $20 each for the below manuals.
- Switchback User Guide, Apex PC Solutions, 1995
- 8001/ KVM Users Guide, Apex PC Solutions, Date Unknown
- Reachout: Remote Conrol for Windows and DOS, User Guide Version 2.1,
Ocean Isle Software, Revised July 2, 1992
- Addendum I to User's Manual for MasterNet Version 2.00, Rose
Electronics, Revision A, Date Unknown
- General Instrument 2750R Satellite Receiver User's Guide 2700 Series,
Publication No 72089-1, Rev. C, Apr. 1990
If you've got these then please contact me in private e-mail. Thanks!
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I've got a DEC RW500 optical disk libray that I'm confused about.... The
machine powers up, passes self tests, loads and unloads media, but I
can't get the scsi controller in my peecee to recognize any media in it.
I've tried the original drive that came in the box, as well as an HP
versioned drive, as well as DEC labelled media, HP labelled media, and
some other brands.
It seems like the drive starts to spin the media, but it stops after a
few seconds....
Is there a trick to this, or do I have a couple of dead drives?
Hi,
I came across the following advert:
http://www.irjohnston.com/HP_spectrophotometer.html
for a HP 8451A Spectrophotometer which includes the rare 98155A keyboard.
This machine is based on the HP-85A / 85B (or both!) and the ad has some
nice photos of the complete set up, including the keyboard which HP-9915A
owners seem to be desperate to get their hands on. This looks like an
expensive way of buying a keyboard though....
BTW the photos are dated October 2003 so this may have sold by now.
Perhaps suppliers of 8451As might have a spare keyboard from a dead unit
knocking around, I would not like to ask all the 100's of suppliers of
surplus lab equipment though!
Regards,
John
>> > P1=200002C0 P2=00000000 P3=30040000 P4=00000000 P5=00000000
>> > P6=00000000 P7=00000000 P8=00000000 P9=00000000 P10=00000000
>> > r0=00000054 r1=200001BF r2=00000000 r3=20140000 r4=200560E8
>> > r5=20056124 r6=20063ACB r7=200002C0 r8=00000008 EPC=00000000
>> > 04..03.. Normal operation not possible.
>> >
>> > >>>
>>
>> This looks like you don't have any terminators on the card.
Yep, it's a naked card at the moment.
> Quite *why* the KZQSA code in the console behaves this way,
> I do not know. I've booted plenty of MicroVAX 3100s with
> missing terminators on the SCSI bus and never had a problem.
Tell me about it - "normal operation is not possible"? Well, no, because
you've gone and halt'ed the CPU because you're so self-important. I don't
*need* the SCSI bus operational to bring up the CPU and boot varios OSes.
Silly firmware. Slapped wrist.
Thanks guys :)
alex/melt
>DO NOT USE ANYTHING BUT THE FACTORY ORIGINAL POWER SUPPLY.
>If you use anything else, then you will be writing to this
>list about the machine no longer working.
That sounds like the voice of experience.
Is there a particular reason someone can't roll their own power supply?
Did Apple do something funky with it that isn't easily determined? (Gee,
'cause that would be SOOO unlike Apple to do, wouldn't it!).
Being an Apple fan, I'm just curious for details.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hi,
I picked up part of a thread about a STR-LINK 11 by Jack Gershon
I am trying to find out how the system hand shaking, protocol etc works
....... any ideas or info ?
Regards
Les
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I've got a box of 10- CS-600HD cassette tapes (Maxell brand). They are
for a cassette tape backup drive. I bought them from another list member
only to find that the specs I found on my drive neglected to point out
that of the list of tapes it's compatible with, it can only WRITE to one
particular tape, and this one ain't it.
So I'm about to toss them in the trash. If anyone wants them, speak now
or forever hold your piece (sic. for the gun toting people on this list
:-)
I'll let them sit on my desk until Friday the 6th. After that, they hit
the trash. The box weighs about 2 lbs, shipped from 07450 (figure about
$6.00 to do priority mail to the west coast, less if you are closer to
the east). Covering postage is all I ask, although if you want to give me
more, I won't complain.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I have a 3Com 3C509B-TPO (16-bit network adapter) in a 486 PC running in
DOS 6.22. All the drivers are loaded and working and I can connect up to
my Win2000 box and mount its volumes locally. All good.
But when I try to transfer large files the DOS system invariably locks up.
I have to do a cold boot. I played around with the BIOS, disabling one
feature at a time until I found the culprit. Once I disabled the Internal
CPU cache then things worked fine.
So my question is, why?
3Com's 3C509B FAQ didn't address this issue and I couldn't find anything
>from Google.
I don't expect an answer really. This is one of those problems that only
occurs to one unlucky person somewhere in the world at the worst possible
moment. Fortunately I can move files but it would be nice to know what
might be the problem if there is a solution.
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Anyone out there have a Priam 3450-10 30MB Hard Drive?
Paul Hirsch
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I'm wanting to unload this fine 19" rackmount cabinet with a built in 9"
VGA (SVGA?) CRT. Unfortunately, something is definitely wrong with the
CRT. It runs very hot, even when not turned on. There might be a short
somewhere (it might even be on the yolk as there are some lead wires from
the yolk touching itself where it doesn't look like it should). I was
smelling some magic smoke earlier, so something is surely amiss. I wish I
knew what or I'd fix it. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time. But
it's a nice chassis and I'd hate to junk it. It includes a P-90
motherboard with 3 ISA and 3 PCI slots. I'll max out the RAM. It has a
540MB hard drive as well.
http://www.siconic.com/computers/crt-chassis-1.JPGhttp://www.siconic.com/computers/crt-chassis-2.JPG
Does anyone want to make an offer? I'm not expecting much. You could
probably repair or replace the CRT with enough ambition. Would make for a
very nice compact rack server.
Shipping would be 45 pounds from ZIP code 94550. Figure about $35
shipping worst case.
E-mail me if interested.
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I'm bidding on an item, and I'm pretty sure the seller has another (0
feedback) account and is bidding up the price. I don't see any spot on ebays
website where I can raise this issue. Is there someone I can bring this
issue to there? Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Please reply off-list
Jay
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Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:55:36 -0500
From: Debbie Ferrucci <higbe25(a)comcast.net>
To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com>
Subject: RE: Kaypro Computer
Connecticut, outside of New Haven.
Let me know.
Mike Ferrucci
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From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@siconic.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 5:36 PM
To: Debbie Ferrucci
Subject: Re: Kaypro Computer
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Debbie Ferrucci wrote:
> I've got an old Kaypro Computer that I'm going to throw away. Do you know
> anybody who would want it? I'll send it to anybody who will pay the
> postage. I used it until the day my PC arrived, at which point the Kaypro
> screen started to roll and I've never touched it again. I think I have
all
> the manuals and software disks as well.
Hi Mike.
I'd sure like to find someone who will want it. Can you tell me where you
are?
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Does anybody here have an HP Integral with the RS232, current loop, or
GPIO cards in it?
I realise I'm never going to find these cards for sale (at least not at a
price I can afford), but I'd like to know what the chips on them were to
see if it's possible to make some equivalent.
So if you have those cards, could you tell me the numbers on the chips.
-tony
Howdy,
I am getting more cleaning done than expected. I found the following
items that I wish to find new homes for.
(3) Three hard plastic "Library Cases" for 8" floppy disks. Two are
plain black, and the third is tan with a BASF label on it. Inside I
found an 8" floppy of Sorcim SuperCalc 2 version 1 for the IBM 3740 /
CPM 2.x / Intel 8080. The copyright date is 1983. Also in the box,
Computronics "Business Pac 100" CP/M version on two 8" floppies. Less
interesting are 9 8" floppies with a variety of insurance company
proposal programs on them.
I also have a half-full box of unused OEI brand (M5081) punch cards.
Any offers?
Jon
Jon Auringer
auringer(a)tds.net
At 12:00 PM 2/29/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Hey, to the person that buys a laptop without a keyboard or screen for
>$75, I've got an old 5.25" floppy disk drive that doesn't read or write
>for $25.
Well, I can top what everybody is offering here.
I have a laptop that has no keyboard (pulled and put on another
laptop.) It also has a cracked LCD, which actually still 'works' though
the way it switches from positive to negative image on sections of the lcd
display is kinda surreal. Also, it only has 4 megs of RAM, it has no hard
drive, and it's a 486. But I remember when I couldn't afford a 486 so
maybe it's still a good deal.
My 8088 Zenith Supersport and my IBM PC Convertable (one with ALL 640K of
RAM, which is a rarity) are the better choices, collection-wise. My Model
100's rule, of course.
Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
> Hi Jon.
>
> I'll take it. My address is:
Sorry, someone else had a quicker trigger finger. The manual is spoken for.
Jon
On Feb 26, 13:43, Paul Koning wrote:
> >>>>> "Jay" == Jay West <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> writes:
>
> Jay> I once ran across an article stating the "expected life" of IDC
> Jay> ribbon cable connections. It was suprisingly low, like 64
> Jay> connect/disconnect lifespan.
>
> That's about 63 more than I would expect. Those things really are
not
> meant to be reused.
Jay is not talking about fitting the ribbon cable to the connector, but
to connecting/disconnecting it to its mating connector. Class 3
conectors are rated for about that many mating cycles, Class 2 for 3 to
5 times that, and Class 1 for upwards of 400 cycles. You might be
surprised to know that the figures are about the same for many other
types of small multipole connectors.
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Hello,
Anyone interested in an original manual for Wordstar on the NorthStar
Horizon/Advantage? The sections are marked "First Issue: May 15, 1981".
If there is no interest, it goes in the dumpster.
Jon
Jon Auringer
auringer(a)tds.net
> Yup, but we can still fight. I just found out it is against the Santa
> Barbara city ordinance to park in your own driveway more than 48 hours
> as they then consider it to be storage. These people are insane!!!
>
Did they ever pass that law requiring RV's to be registered with the
rent control board (They were talking about it in 1986-7 or so, when I
graduated from UCSB)....
The political ad was rather funny: http://laradio.lerctr.org/rv/measureb.mp3
does anyone keep track of real-world prices for old machines? I get the
impression from past list traffic that there are price guides available
for classic computers but they're next to useless anyway.
I have a few odds and ends which don't fit into the current collection
that I might want to part with, but have no idea what they're
realistically worth. I'm used to giving stuff away, not selling it :)
Do ebay or any other sales sites allow you to look at prices fetched for
past items to give a rough guideline?
cheers
Jules
The Zortech C++ compiler was one of the very first C++ compilers developed
in the mid- to late-1980s. I'm looking for a copy for a friend who's
writing a book (and also so the creator of Zortech C++ can have his own
copy since he never held onto his own!) Zortech C++ was licensed to
Symantec and became their C++ compiler.
Does anyone have a copy of Zortech C++?
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VCF Gazette
Volume 2, Issue 2
A Newsletter for the Vintage Computer Festival
February 27, 2004
After an unduly long interval, here's the latest news from the Vintage
Computer Festival...
Vintage Computer Festival 6.0 Wrap-Up
VCF 6.0 Exhibit Awards
VCF 6.0 Retro-Code Video Game Programming Challenge Wrap-Up
Vintage Computer Festival East 2.0
Vintage Computer Festival Europa 5.0
Vintage Computer Marketplace Hits Milestone
VCF Organization Party
VCF Producer Sellam Ismail on TechTV's Screen Savers March 17
Just a quick note to point out the beginning of our VCF organization
parties, with the first being held on Saturday, March 6. Read on for
more information. Also, please check out our new donation page on the
VCF website. The VCF is running low on funds to produce future events
so any help you might be able to give right now in the form of a cash
contribution would be greatly appreciated and rewarded with goodies.
For more information, see:
http://www.vintage.org/donate.php
Vintage Computer Festival 6.0 Wrap-Up
-------------------------------------
VCF 6.0 was a phenomenal success! Thanks to the help of the Computer
History Museum (the sponsors of the event for a second year in a row)
we were able to achieve our goal of 500 attendees...and then some!
Actual attendance was almost 550, beating our peak attendance record
of about 450 at VCF 4.0 in 2000.
VCF 6.0 featured more speakers than at any previous event, with 19
speakers in 12 conferences across 2 tracks over 2 days. We had 28
exhibitors displaying nearly 70 computers, from micros to minis to
mainframes, plus rare prototypes, early PDAs, video game systems, and
more.
VCF 6.0 also featured the Retro-Code Video Game Programming Challenge.
Three teams had three hours to write a video game from scratch. The
teams worked on three computers pre-arranged by the VCF: an Apple //e,
an Atari 800, and a Commodore 64. Each team turned in fantastic
efforts. More on this below.
Throughout the VCF weekend, the Computer History Museum held tours of
its Visible Storage exhibits which allowed VCF visitors to experience
a "walk through computer history".
The highlight of VCF 6.0 was the Xerox Alto panel featuring Xerox Palo
Alto Research Center alumni John Ellenby, Dave Robson, Peter Deutsch,
and Charles Simonyi. The panel was moderated by Bruce Damer of the
DigiBarn. Each panelist took their turn recounting their personal
histories at PARC during the 1970s when the Alto was being developed.
After the session, everyone in attendance was invited to join the
panelists in wishing the Alto a happy 30th anniversary. A yummy cake
bearing a photo of the Alto was served up.
We've put together a photo gallery of VCF 6.0 here:
http://www.vintage.org/gallery.php?grouptag=VCF60
And Bruce Damer has a fantastic VCF 6.0 overview on the DigiBarn
website, including audio and video of the Alto panel and festivities:
http://www.digibarn.com/history/03-10-VCF6/index.html
Overall, VCF 6.0 was probably the best VCF event of all time. We'll
be back again later this year to try to top it. I hope to see you
there!
Of course, the VCF could not have been the success it was without the
terrific help of the Computer History Museum and their tremendous
bunch of volunteers that turned out to help in the shadows. I thank
each of the following people who volunteered their time either
conducting tours of the Visible Storage area for VCF attendees or
handling various VCF tasks:
Remi Arnaud Dave Babcock Lee Courtney
Bob Fraley Bill Goldberg Eli Goldberg
John Green Tom Halfhill Peter Hamm
Peter Jennings Tracy King Gail Lampert
David Laws Frank Lemmon Jim Manley
Julie Neff Randy Neff Dan Orsen
Ray Peck Rafael Skodlar Randy Sloan
Wolfgang Schaechter Tony Sumpter Fred Ware
Texx Woodworth Warren Yogi
Thanks also to Liza Loop and friends for helping with the setup on
Friday, and everyone else who helped out that day (I just can't
remember you all but thanks all the same).
Special thanks to Alex Bochannek for once again doing a splendid job
organizing the VCF Exhibits and heading up the judging team, and equal
thanks to Lee Felsenstein and Dag Spicer for continuing their
tradition as the stalwart VCF Exhibition judges. Also thanks to Stan
Sieler for filling in as an alternate judge.
Super special thanks to Roger Sinasohn for providing all the yummy
treats and beverages, and especially for helping me out in a pinch
on so many occasions. On that note, business owners might want to
check out the services Roger provides at TechSynthesis:
http://www.techsynthesis.com/
Extra special thanks to Bruce Damer and Galen Brandt for organizing
the Xerox Alto panel and birthday bash.
Of course, thanks to all the Speakers, Exhibitors and Vendors who
helped to make the VCF what it is.
I would like to extend a warm thanks in particular to Pam Cleveland
and Jennifer Cheng, who coordinate CHM events, and Mike Walton, who
handles all the technical concerns, plus all the CHM staff. They were
fantastic!
And finally, a heartfelt thanks to John Toole and Dag Spicer, truly
friends of the Vintage Computer Festival.
VCF 6.0 Exhibit Awards
----------------------
We can proclaim with much confidence that this year's exhibit at the
Vintage Computer Festival was the best ever. Dozens of vintage
computer enthusiasts from all over converged in the Hahn Auditorium of
the Computer History Museum to put on some amazing displays. The bar
has certainly been raised for future exhibits.
Exhibits are graded by our panel of judges, which comprises head judge
Alex Bochannek, Computer History Museum Curator of Exhibits Dag
Spicer, and legendary computer industry maven Lee Felsenstein. The
judges then tabulate their results and assign 1st, 2nd and 3rd place
ribbons in each of five general award classes, and additional Special
Award ribbons in each of 11 special categories. Finally, the People's
Choice Award is a special ribbon given to the exhibit that garners the
most votes from VCF attendees.
Class Awards
First, Second and Third Place ribbons are awarded in each of five
classes that represent major areas of effort in computer collecting
and preservation. Judging is based on a set of criteria including:
appearance, condition, originality, authenticity, completeness, and
functionality. Additional judging takes into account the breadth of
the exhibit by assessing the inclusion of documentation and software.
Herewith, we are proud to present the winners of this year's Vintage
Computer Festival Exhibition:
Class A: Homebrew, Kit or Educational Computer - Any Vintage
1st Place: Bryan Blackburn - Mark-8
2nd Place: Erik Klein - Altair 8800
3rd Place: Larry Pezzolo - Altair 680
Class B: Manufactured Personal Computer - Pre-1981
1st Place: Bryan Blackburn - the digital group
2nd Place: Erik Klein - Commodore PET
3rd Place: Erik Klein - TRS-80 Model 1
Class C: Manufactured Personal Computer - Post-1981
1st Place: Cameron Kaiser - Tomy Tutor/Tomy Pyuuta
2nd Place: Wayne Smith - IBM System/23
3rd Place: Jordan Ruderman - Apple Lisa
Class D: Mini-computer or Larger System - Any Vintage
1st Place: Stephen Jones - AT&T 3B2/500
2nd Place: Jim Battle - Wang 2200
3rd Place: Pavl Zachary - DEC PDP 11/70
Class E: Open
1st Place: Vince Briel - "Replica I" Apple-1 Replica
2nd Place: Tim Lindner - Modern Intellivision
3rd Place: Jordan Ruderman - Apple eMate 300
Special Awards
Special Awards are given to exhibits based on various practical and
esthetic criteria. These accolades are meant to award exhibits that
advance the state of computer collecting and preservation.
Herewith, we are proud to present the Special Award recipients:
Best Presentation: Research
Larry Anderson - Commodore 8-bit Breadboxes
Best Presentation: Completeness
Cameron Kaiser - Tomy Tutor/Tomy Pyuuta
Best Presentation: Display
Bryan Blackburn - Mark-8
Best Presentation: Creative Integration with Contemporary Technology
Bill Borsari - Amiga 4000
Best Preservation: Original Condition
Cameron Kaiser - Tomy Tutor/Tomy Pyuuta
Best Preservation: Restoration
Bryan Blackburn - Mark-8
Best Preservation: Recreation
Vince Briel - "Replica I" Apple-1 Replica
Best Preservation: Simulation
Jim Battle - Wang 2200 Emulator
Best Preservation: Obscurity
Chuck McManis - DEC PDP-5
Best of Show
The Best of Show award determines, based on all previous judging and
awards, which exhibit deserves to be singled out for special
recognition.
The VCF 6.0 Best of Show award went to Bryan Blackburn for his Mark-8
exhibit. Congratulations, Bryan!
People's Choice Award
Finally, the People's Choice Award taps into the pulse of the VCF
crowd. Attendees are encouraged to submit a ballot naming their
favorite exhibit of the show. The exhibit that attracted the most
votes this year was Pavl Zachary's DEC PDP 11/70.
Pavl (pronounced "Paul" but just spelled with a 'v' because what the
hell) spent hours putting together an exhibit worthy of the most high
brow trade shows. Pavl created a DEC backdrop that stood at least
7 feet tall and spanned 20 feet. Each letter of the "digital" logo
was hand crafted and meticulously placed, creating a display that was
right out of the heyday of the DEC we once knew and loved.
Pavl's effort will surely be difficult to rival at future VCF events.
I would like to congratulate ALL VCF exhibitors this year for helping
to make it the best VCF exhibition yet!
To see pictures of the VCF exhibitors and their machines, check out
the VCF 6.0 photo gallery:
http://www.vintage.org/gallery.php?grouptag=VCF60
VCF 6.0 Retro-Code Video Game Programming Challenge
---------------------------------------------------
The Retro-Code Video Game Programming Challenge is a fairly new
feature of the VCF. We attempted it at VCF 5.0 with mixed results,
but we managed to pull it off this year and had a lot of fun!
The goal of the Challenge is to program a video game from scratch on
a vintage computer within 3 hours. The computer platforms, provided
by the VCF, were an Apple //e, an Atari 800, and a Commodore 64.
Three teams chosen from volunteers were assembled and the coding
began! (In the end we couldn't get an Atari team so we ended up with
two separate Apple teams).
Team Apple A, comprised of Hans Franke and Eric Smith working in
tandem, designed a nice maze-based role playing game. In the
beginning of the game, a player rolled virtual dice (portrayed on the
screen using the Apple's low resolution graphics capabilities) to
determine their game character's attributes. A maze was then randomly
generated and it was the player's goal to traverse the maze, gathering
treasure and riches along the way while meeting all manner of evil and
strange creatures that would have to be defended against.
Team Commodore, comprised of Larry Anderson, developed a fantastic
effort that put the player at the helm of a shopping cart in a thrift
store where vintage computers were flying off the shelves and the
player was required to collect as many of these computers in their
shopping cart as possible. If too many computers fell to the ground
and were destroyed, the player was banished from the thrift store!
Larry's game employed the Commodore 64's built-in graphics sprites
to render the shopping cart and vintage computers.
Team Apple B was comprised of Lawrence Wilkinson who developed a nice
implementation of the strategy game Hex. Larry utilized the Apple
//e's high resolution graphics screen to render the Hex playing field
(in 3D no less!) and used the joystick for player piece movement. He
even gave the computer a simple intelligence to allow for human vs.
computer play.
When the three hour programming period was up, the teams were required
to put their keyboards down and the judging commenced. Each team was
required to demo their game to the assembled crowd, after which a hand
vote was taken from the amassed spectators and a winner was chosen.
Larry Anderson took 1st Place, followed by Hans Franke and Eric Smith,
with Lawrence Wilkinson bringing up the rear.
It was a really fun event and we're planning to expand it for VCF 7.0.
Got an idea for a game? Can you write it, from scratch, in only three
hours? Then come to VCF 7.0 and show your stuff! More information to
come so stay tuned.
Vintage Computer Festival East 2.0
----------------------------------
VCF East 2.0 is still in the planning stages, and much progress is
being made. We had hoped to hold the event sometime in April of this
year, but due to several unforeseen circumstances we've decided to
move the event back to sometime in June or July. We're almost ready
to announce exact dates and a location (near Boston, Massachusetts),
but first we need to dot some t's and cross some i's so stay tuned for
further updates.
So far, confirmed speakers are:
o Bob Supnik, creator of the wonderful Computer History Simulation
Project featuring SIMH, a universal computer simulation engine
with support for dozens of vintage computer models from the DEC
PDP-1 to the PDP-15 and more
o Jon Titus, creator of the legendary Mark-8, one of the earliest
microcomputer kits, featured in the July 1974 issue of Radio
Electronics
Have you got any suggestions or recommendations for speakers? By all
means, please do contact us and let us know. We are planning to have
a full line-up of speakers at VCF East 2.0.
This would also be a good time to visit the VCF East 2.0 web page and
sign up as an exhibitor:
http://www.vintage.org/2004/east/exhibit.php
And we've still got plenty of room for vendors:
http://www.vintage.org/2004/east/vendor.php
VCF East 2.0 updates will be forthcoming throughout the following
weeks so be on the lookout for further announcements.
Vintage Computer Festival Europa 5.0
------------------------------------
Hans Franke is proud to bring you version 5.0 of the Vintage Computer
Festival Europa. Hans has been working hard to make this year's event
the best yet.
The theme for VCF Europa 5.0 is User Interfaces. Exhibits and talks
will focus on the human computer interface from keypunch machines to
the mouse.
For more information, please visit the VCF Europa website:
http://www.vcfe.org/
Vintage Computer Marketplace: Phase Two
---------------------------------------
The Vintage Computer Marketplace registered its 500th user sometime in
December, which was a significant milestone. Since then, new users
have continued to register and the current registered user count is
nearing 700.
We're hard at work to roll out the next release of the Marketplace
software, which will add more features and options. We'll also begin
to roll out our premium features which will allow you to more
efficiently and effectively find those odd old computer bits you've
been seeking for a while, and help you sell or trade items in your own
collection.
With these new features in place, we'll also be rolling out the next
phase of our marketing campaign. The beta test phase is effectively
over and has demonstrated that the software can handle the load of
thousands of listings, so we'll be embarking on a program over the
course of the next couple months to get more and more people to use
the VCM to buy, sell and trade their vintage computing items instead
of other services. We'll be putting into place several different
types of incentives to make it the preferred marketplace on the web
for vintage computers. It has been and will remain more profitable to
use the VCM to sell than with other services, and for buyers we've got
much better deals with much more friendly tools and a support staff
that actually addresses complaints, suggestions and issues.
A separate Vintage Computer Marketplace update will be coming out soon
to notify you of the initiation of the new phase. In the meantime,
check out the site if you haven't visited in a while and see the great
items that are currently listed:
http://marketplace.vintage.org
VCF Organization Party
----------------------
The VCF will begin holding volunteer weekend organizations parties to
accelerate the organization and cataloguing of the Vintage Computer
Festival Archives.
We'll be working towards getting the VCF Archives ready for the long
promised Open House. We've got shelving to assemble, documents to
sort, artifacts to box, books to catalog, machines to schlep, etc.
The goal is to have the Archives ready to host an after-school
computer and electronics lab for the local community before school
lets out into summer recess. At that time, we also plan to begin
hosting monthly computer collector meetings for vintage computer
collectors in the Silicon Valley to gather and share experiences and
information and trade computers (we'll have more on this in the next
Gazette).
Volunteers will be rewarded with free passes to the VCF, VCF T-shirts,
and other goodies. Your contribution to this effort will be much
appreciated and will help to finally make the VCF Archives fully
organized and therefore more accessible to the vintage computer
community.
The first volunteer party will be March 6. We'll be starting at
10:00am and going until at least 5:00pm, at which point the party
begins. We'll have music, food, and fun baby! If you're interested
in being part of the shindig, please RSVP by Friday, March 5, via
e-mail to Sellam Ismail at <sellam(a)vintage.org>.
The VCF headquarters is located in Livermore, California, so obviously
only those local to the Silicon Valley area will be able to
participate, but we won't stop anyone from flying in to lend a helping
hand :)
VCF Producer Sellam Ismail on TechTV's Screen Savers March 17
-------------------------------------------------------------
The VCF's Sellam Ismail will be appearing on TechTV's "The Screen
Savers" program on March 17th. Sellam will be bringing along old
computer media for show and tell. This will be Sellam's third
appearance on The Screen Savers.
Check your local listings for air times.
That wraps it up for this issue of the VCF Gazette! Until next time...
Best regards,
Sellam Ismail
Producer
Vintage Computer Festival
http://www.vintage.org/
The Vintage Computer Festival is a celebration of computers and their
history. The VCF Gazette goes out to anyone who subscribed to the VCF
mailing list, and is intended to keep those interested in the VCF
informed of the latest VCF events and happenings. The VCF Gazette is
guaranteed to be published in a somewhat irregular manner, though we
will try to maintain a quarterly schedule.
If you would like to be removed from the VCF mailing list, and
therefore not receive any more issues of the VCF Gazette, visit the
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Joe R.
Thanks,
I will check it out.
Paul
>From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
>Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>Subject: Re: 86/330 Problem(s)
>Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 12:27:28 -0500
>
>At 02:27 AM 2/28/04 +0000, you wrote:
> >Joe,
> >do you have part numbers on the booards you have?
> >Paul Hirsch
>
>
> Here is a link to a Multibus webpage that I've been working on.
><http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/multibus/multibus.html>. MOST of the cards
>that I have are listed there along with descriptions, part numbers and
>pictures. It's still a work in progress so there are some missing bits and
>pieces and I still have a stack of cards to add to it. It seems like
>everytime I turn over a rock around here I find more Multibus stuff :-)
>
> FWIW I gutted* four Intel 86/330s a couple of years ago so I have all
>the
>cards for them.
>
> *Before anyone complains about me gutting vintage systems I'd like to
>point out that these had had the hard drives removed before I got them and
>I didn't have any Sw or docs for them and that I spent several months
>trying to track down the stuff before I gave up and stripped them. I posted
>several requests on this list and didn't get a single reply.
>
> Joe
>
>
> >
> >
> >>From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
> >>Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
> >>Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> >>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> >><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> >>Subject: Re: 86/330 Problem(s)
> >>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:17:09 -0500
> >>
> >>At 02:28 PM 2/27/04 -0800, you wrote:
> >> >On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Paul Hirsch wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> We have an 86/330 that will not boot. We are using the RMX 5.1
> >>Operating
> >> >> System. Following power on we compete the SCT Test and begin
>booting
> >>and
> >> >> get a "Divide overflow occured". We have replaced the 8086
>procrsser,
> >>the
> >> >> 8087 coprocessor and the memory boards. At this point we are out of
> >>options
> >> >> unless it is the cpu board (144548-003 Rev C). 1) if any one has
>any
> >>advice
> >> >> I would appreciate it, or if anyone has a board or computer that
>they
> >>would
> >> >> like to sell.
> >> >
> >> >Sounds like a software problem.
> >> >
> >> >What's an 86/330?
> >>
> >> Sounds like an Intel 86/330 computer (8086 CPU Multibus system). I
>have
> >>parts for them and I've already replied to him.
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >
> >> >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
> >>Festival
> >>
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> >>http://www.vintage.org
> >> >
> >> >[ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage
> >>Computers
> >> ]
> >> >[ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at
> >>http://marketplace.vintage.org ]
> >> >
> >> >
> >
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Hello to all,
I'm looking for information on the OHIO-DOS system.
Has anyone some sources, programs or historic info
on this OS for the 6502?
Right now I'm rebuilding an 65816 system (EC65K) which
was published in 1986 by Elektuur/Elektor and was running
OHIO DOS 65D V3.2.
Thanks,
Regards,
Edzard Kolks
Hello,
I am attempting to install NetBSD on a VS4000/VLC.
I am getting write errors when I try. So attempted
to format the drive via the console:
First: T/UT 10
Next choose erase hd: option 3
Enter ID and LUN
Remember to type OK at the OK prompt and not y!
My problem is it does not finish sucessfully. I
get an "84 FAIL" error.
Is there any solution or is it new drive time? I was
hoping to be asking NETBSD questions.
Thanks
Max
Joe,
do you have part numbers on the booards you have?
Paul Hirsch
>From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
>Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>Subject: Re: 86/330 Problem(s)
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:17:09 -0500
>
>At 02:28 PM 2/27/04 -0800, you wrote:
> >On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Paul Hirsch wrote:
> >
> >> We have an 86/330 that will not boot. We are using the RMX 5.1
>Operating
> >> System. Following power on we compete the SCT Test and begin booting
>and
> >> get a "Divide overflow occured". We have replaced the 8086 procrsser,
>the
> >> 8087 coprocessor and the memory boards. At this point we are out of
>options
> >> unless it is the cpu board (144548-003 Rev C). 1) if any one has any
>advice
> >> I would appreciate it, or if anyone has a board or computer that they
>would
> >> like to sell.
> >
> >Sounds like a software problem.
> >
> >What's an 86/330?
>
> Sounds like an Intel 86/330 computer (8086 CPU Multibus system). I have
>parts for them and I've already replied to him.
>
> Joe
>
> >
> >--
> >
> >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
>Festival
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
> >International Man of Intrigue and Danger
>http://www.vintage.org
> >
> >[ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage
>Computers
> ]
> >[ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at
>http://marketplace.vintage.org ]
> >
> >
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Well I found out how to do it:
First: T/UT 10
Next choose erase hd: option 3
Enter ID and LUN
Remember to type OK at the OK prompt and not y!
My problem is it does not finish sucessfully. I
get an "84 FAIL" error.
Is there any solution or is it new drive time?
Thanks
Max
If he doesn't, I have a few I could spare.
Shipping is like 10oz for 3 I think, from 12550.
-John Boffemmyer IV
At 11:41 PM 2/27/2004, you wrote:
> I will take 2. Do you have ant disks to go with em.....
>
>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
> >>> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Vintage
> >>> Computer Festival
> >>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:16 PM
> >>> To: Classic Computers Mailing List; Classic Computers
> >>> Mailing List; Bay Area Computer Collector List
> >>> Subject: SCSI Zip 100 external drives...any interest?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've got a number of Iomega 100MB SCSI External Zip drives
> >>> with power supply and cable. Any interest at $10 each + shipping?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Sellam Ismail
> >>> Vintage Computer Festival
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> ------------------
> >>> International Man of Intrigue and Danger
> >>> http://www.vintage.org
> >>>
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> >>> Vintage Computers ]
> >>> [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at
> >>> http://marketplace.vintage.org ]
> >>>
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Founder, Lead Writer, Tech Analyst
and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies
http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html
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I've got a number of Iomega 100MB SCSI External Zip drives with power
supply and cable. Any interest at $10 each + shipping?
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A special Liebowitzian Illumination of the UNIVAC 422 brochure and manual are being prepared!
Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
Please check our web site at
http://www.smecc.org
to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we
buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us.
address:
coury house / smecc
5802 w palmaire ave
glendale az 85301
Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
Please check our web site at
http://www.smecc.org
to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we
buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us.
address:
coury house / smecc
5802 w palmaire ave
glendale az 85301
Hello,
I am trying to installed Netbsd on a VS4000 VLC.
I figure why not, it doesn't suppose the vido and the
video is dead on this unit.
However I am getting write errors on my RZ24. So
what is the command to format the drive from the
console. I can not find it anywhere. There are lists
for both the VS3100 and VS2000.
Thanks
Jay, I am not sure if we need them for this round but eventually we will
need them. I would appreciate knowing how to get to them.
Paul Hirsch
>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
>Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
>Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>CC: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com>
>Subject: Re: 86/330 Problem(s)
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:05:34 -0600
>
>The old archives are still up, just hidden :> Email me for how to get to
>them if you need it. Long as I've heard of you before, I'll fill you in :)
>
>Jay West
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 4:56 PM
>Subject: Re: 86/330 Problem(s)
>
>
> > On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, George Leo Rachor Jr. wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2002-December/005822.html
> >
> > This reminds me, when are we getting the archives back up?
> >
> > Hey Jay, any chance of just throwing them up and not worrying about the
> > spam problems? We seem to have done OK what with the old archives still
> > being searchable by Google.
> >
> > I surely miss the archives. I want to turn to them at least once a week
> > and have to remember they are just not there :(
> >
> > I'd volunteer my time to take this issue on but I'm already drowning in
> > projects.
> >
> > --
> >
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>Festival
> >
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>mputers ]
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I am moving files from old Bernoulli disks to a PC. I've got an old
version of Laplink that works under DOS 3.3 but it has one big problem for
file transfers: it's assuming that you're trying to sync up your laptop
hard drive with your desktop, and vice versa. As a result, it doesn't
allow you to specify a directory to move files into. It just copies from
C: drive on the source to C: drive on the target, in a mirroring fashion.
So, does anyone know of a very simple serial port file transfer program
that I can use to do remote file copies? It would have to have powerful
wildcard facilities so I can just do a dump of whatever is on the
Bernoulli cart to a directory on the remote hard drive.
By the way, the problem I was having with reading the Bernoulli carts had
to do with the controller and/or driver apparently. I was using a more
recent Bernoulli drive controller without success. I got my hands on what
I believe is the original/first controller and the drivers for it, and I
was able to read the carts. The other controller can't make sense of the
disk format and returns a read failure, but they do work as I can format
carts with them and copy files to and from those carts. I just can't read
the older carts with the newer controller and drivers.
So if anyone has any old Bernoulli carts they need to get the data off of,
let me know.
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There are two utilities, one is called LIFUTIL and was initially
sold by HP. This runs under MSDOS and allows floppies to be read
(and even written).
You can get a copy at:
ftp://ftp.math.jyu.fi/pub/hpil/lifutil
The second utility runs under Unix and allows access to disk images
(i.e. the contents of the floppies after you have dd'd them to a
Unix system). I have written this utility myself to help me xfer stuff
>from my HP-85 to my OpenBSD web server (www.series80.org).
If you want the source, email me off the list and I will send it
to you.
Best Regards
**vp
We have an 86/330 that will not boot. We are using the RMX 5.1 Operating
System. Following power on we compete the SCT Test and begin booting and
get a "Divide overflow occured". We have replaced the 8086 procrsser, the
8087 coprocessor and the memory boards. At this point we are out of options
unless it is the cpu board (144548-003 Rev C). 1) if any one has any advice
I would appreciate it, or if anyone has a board or computer that they would
like to sell.
Thanks,
Paul Hirsch
hirschopd(a)msn.com
281 255-3381
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Hi Lawrence.
You were one of the folks who participated in the Retro-Code Challenge at
VCF 6.0. You did the Hex implementation on the Apple //e.
I need your last name for inclusion in the forthcoming VCF newsletter.
Please reply ASAP if you see this.
THANKS!
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Hi
This is a good idea. Loads change as things warm up.
It seems like I recall that there were some RAMs
that needed to be written once before they worked
properly. I don't know if these are among those.
Still, John's suggestion is where I'd look first
then you should type replacing the RAM's with a
different manufacture.
Dwight
PS I currently work at AMD but these RAMs are way before
my time here.
>From: "John Lawson" <jpl15(a)panix.com>
>
>
>
> One thing to test: since you have been experiencing power-supply
>gremlins - if you have a scope (or a DVM that measures AC millivolts)
>you might want to put it accross the power lines to the card, to see if
>there is a high value of 'ripple' riding on the DC lines - Excessive
>ripple can cause nasty little transient glitches like you describe. Then
>you can look to the filter capacitors to see if they might not need some
>TLC as well.
>
> Just a Thought...
>
>Cheers
>
>John
>
>
>
>
I was just thinking about how useful the Google archive is, and
wondering, has anyone created an archive of the old FidoNet message
archives?
Unfortunately I assume most were lost due to the cost of archiving them.
Zane
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