25 Feb
2004
25 Feb
'04
1:41 p.m.
I have a 3Com 3C509B-TPO (16-bit network adapter) in a 486 PC running in
DOS 6.22. All the drivers are loaded and working and I can connect up to
my Win2000 box and mount its volumes locally. All good.
But when I try to transfer large files the DOS system invariably locks up.
I have to do a cold boot. I played around with the BIOS, disabling one
feature at a time until I found the culprit. Once I disabled the Internal
CPU cache then things worked fine.
So my question is, why?
3Com's 3C509B FAQ didn't address this issue and I couldn't find anything
from Google.
I don't expect an answer really. This is one of those problems that only
occurs to one unlucky person somewhere in the world at the worst possible
moment. Fortunately I can move files but it would be nice to know what
might be the problem if there is a solution.
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25 Feb
2:20 p.m.
The TPO's were 3COM 509's (bad children) I had many issues with those
adapters, I especially had issues with them playing well with others.
On a few installs of Novell and Win NT servers, when 2 or more of these
were in the servers I found that they had to be installed one at a time
and configured one at a time then they could all be installed and
tested... However have a 509b-TPO and another nic like SMC or Intel
and talk about seeing a piece of h/w throw a tantrum.
Curt
Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
I have a 3Com 3C509B-TPO (16-bit network adapter) in a
486 PC running in
DOS 6.22. All the drivers are loaded and working and I can connect up to
my Win2000 box and mount its volumes locally. All good.
But when I try to transfer large files the DOS system invariably locks up.
I have to do a cold boot. I played around with the BIOS, disabling one
feature at a time until I found the culprit. Once I disabled the Internal
CPU cache then things worked fine.
So my question is, why?
3Com's 3C509B FAQ didn't address this issue and I couldn't find anything
from Google.
I don't expect an answer really. This is one of those problems that only
occurs to one unlucky person somewhere in the world at the worst possible
moment. Fortunately I can move files but it would be nice to know what
might be the problem if there is a solution.
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2:28 p.m.
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Curt Vendel wrote:
The TPO's were 3COM 509's (bad children) I
had many issues with those
adapters, I especially had issues with them playing well with others.
On a few installs of Novell and Win NT servers, when 2 or more of these
were in the servers I found that they had to be installed one at a time
and configured one at a time then they could all be installed and
tested... However have a 509b-TPO and another nic like SMC or Intel
and talk about seeing a piece of h/w throw a tantrum.
This is actually somewhat addressed in the 509 FAQ on 3Com's website, and
their solution is as you describe (plug in one and install, then plug in
the other and repeat).
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26 Feb
26 Feb
3:17 a.m.
Oh, okay, never read the faq before, this was learning out of experience
many many years ago at 2am in the morning at a client site with the IT
manager breathing over my shoulder because a server was down and needed its
NIC's replaced....
Ah.... the good old days ;-)
Curt
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Curt Vendel wrote:
Festival
The TPO's were 3COM 509's (bad children)
I had many issues with those
adapters, I especially had issues with them playing well with others.
On a few installs of Novell and Win NT servers, when 2 or more of these
were in the servers I found that they had to be installed one at a time
and configured one at a time then they could all be installed and
tested... However have a 509b-TPO and another nic like SMC or Intel
and talk about seeing a piece of h/w throw a tantrum.
This is actually somewhat addressed in the 509 FAQ on 3Com's website, and
their solution is as you describe (plug in one and install, then plug in
the other and repeat).
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4:20 a.m.
New subject: Way OT.....Anybody here using Vonage???
I know this is way off-topic, but if anyone would reply off-list:
Just curious if anyone here has tried Vonage broadband phone service, I'm
considering moving to it, but I want to hear from anyone who may be using it
and since this is the pulse of geekdome, I figured somebody else out there
may have tried them out or is going to and I could get some off-list
responses and feedback, thanks.
Curt
4:26 a.m.
New subject: Way OT.....Anybody here using Vonage???
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Curt vendel wrote:
I know this is way off-topic, but if anyone would
reply off-list:
Just curious if anyone here has tried Vonage broadband phone service, I'm
considering moving to it, but I want to hear from anyone who may be using it
and since this is the pulse of geekdome, I figured somebody else out there
may have tried them out or is going to and I could get some off-list
responses and feedback, thanks.
I heard a demo on NPR's Marketplace a few weeks back and the quality is
good. There's a noticeable difference between a "real" phone circuit and
a vonage connection, but it's negligible, and there wasn't any latency
that I could detect.
Dropouts still seem to be a problem, but for what it is, I think it's
worth it for at least home service.
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4:56 a.m.
New subject: Way OT.....Anybody here using Vonage???
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Curt vendel wrote:
I know this is way off-topic, but if anyone would
reply off-list:
Just curious if anyone here has tried Vonage broadband phone
service...
I use VoicePulse which is cheaper than Vonage, but, isn't available in
all areas. I've been very happy with it. It comes with a Sipura Phone
Adaptor. One end plugs into my router, the other has a phone jack.
The features I like the most are that it can e-mail me voicemail that
people leave, the ability to set what the caller-id for certain numbers
are (instead of the name, have it say Grandma, Parents, Boss, etc), and
best of all, unlimited local and long distance calls for $25/mo. Very
nice :)
Also, you can have 2 seperate lines with one adapter. A line for you,
and a line for your teenage daughter, or your business or whatever.
I've been very happy with their service, and the sound quality is pretty
decent even with 128k up.
Check out http://www.voicepulse.net for the details.
Jeff
5:59 a.m.
New subject: Way OT.....Anybody here using Vonage???
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Jeff Cole wrote:
Check out http://www.voicepulse.net for the details.
http://www.voicepulse.com/
^^^
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7:47 a.m.
New subject: Way OT^2.....IP Phone Systems (was: Anybody here using Vonage???)
OK, since we're in the subject area and a lot of knowledgeable folks seem to
be lurking... does anyone have any recommendations/picks/pans for IP-based
PBXen? I've been looking at this http://www.altigen.com/. --Patrick
8:23 a.m.
New subject: Way OT^2.....IP Phone Systems (was: Anybody here using Vonage???)
3com makes a decent unit... forget what it's called... nx200 maybe
Jay West
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Subject: Way OT^2.....IP Phone Systems (was: Anybody here using Vonage???)
OK, since we're in the subject area and a lot of
knowledgeable folks seem
to
be lurking... does anyone have any
recommendations/picks/pans for IP-based
PBXen? I've been looking at this http://www.altigen.com/. --Patrick
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9:06 a.m.
New subject: Way OT^2.....IP Phone Systems (was: Anybody here using Vonage???)
NBX100. We have one at our office and it is really cool. We have had a
couple of issues with it, not it's fault but actually problems with
SBC. The NBX does E&M wink only on the T1 card and SBC installed a T1
that does only ground-loop signalling. We finally had to use an Adtran
Atlas 550 to interface the NBX with the T1. We also had to use the
Adtran to break out 8 T1 channels for analog modems as the ATA cards for
the NBX are not modem compatible. The NBX is totally IP based and runs
VX Works.
Jay West wrote:
3com makes a decent unit... forget what it's
called... nx200 maybe
Jay West
?)
OK, since we're in the subject area and a lot
of knowledgeable folks seem
to
>be lurking... does anyone have any recommendations/picks/pans for IP-based
>PBXen? I've been looking at this http://www.altigen.com/. --Patrick
>
>
>
>
9:30 a.m.
New subject: Way OT^2.....IP Phone Systems (was: Anybody here using Vonage???)
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, James Rice wrote:
NBX100. We have one at our office and it is really
cool. We have had a
couple of issues with it, not it's fault but actually problems with
SBC. The NBX does E&M wink only on the T1 card and SBC installed a T1
that does only ground-loop signalling. We finally had to use an Adtran
Atlas 550 to interface the NBX with the T1. We also had to use the
Adtran to break out 8 T1 channels for analog modems as the ATA cards for
the NBX are not modem compatible. The NBX is totally IP based and runs
VX Works.
That's why I recommend the Siemens HiPath. It is compatible with
basically any interface or circuit out there.
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9:27 a.m.
New subject: Way OT^2.....IP Phone Systems (was: Anybody here using Vonage???)
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Patrick Rigney wrote:
OK, since we're in the subject area and a lot of
knowledgeable folks seem to
be lurking... does anyone have any recommendations/picks/pans for IP-based
PBXen? I've been looking at this http://www.altigen.com/. --Patrick
It's PC-based. It's been around for about 6-7 years now so it should be
fairly mature.
But my pick would be the Siemens HiPath. This thing is awesome! Fully
integrated VoIP telephony with traditional digital switching technology
and affordably priced.
Some info:
http://www.siemensenterprise.com/company/corporate/about_hipath.shtml
Let me know if you're interested in learning more and I'll put you in
touch with my friend George.
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1 Mar
1:29 a.m.
New subject: Way OT^2.....IP Phone Systems (was: Anybody here using Vonage???)
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Patrick Rigney wrote:
OK, since we're in the subject area and a lot of
knowledgeable folks seem to
be lurking... does anyone have any recommendations/picks/pans for IP-based
PBXen? I've been looking at this http://www.altigen.com/. --Patrick
I use
Cisco Callmanager. Then again, that is what I do for a
living, so I guess my stuff doesn't count ;)
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26 Feb
26 Feb
6:04 a.m.
New subject: Way OT.....Anybody here using Vonage???
Jeff Cole wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Curt vendel wrote:
I'm using Vonage and it's been flawless.
I know this is way off-topic, but if anyone would
reply off-list:
Just curious if anyone here has tried Vonage broadband phone
service...
7:23 a.m.
New subject: Way OT.....Anybody here using Vonage???
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Jeff Cole wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Curt vendel wrote:
^^^
com
Cheerz
John
I know this is way off-topic, but if anyone would
reply off-list:
Check out http://www.voicepulse.net for the details.
7:55 a.m.
New subject: Way OT.....Anybody here using Vonage???
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 04:23:23PM -0500, John Lawson wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Jeff Cole wrote:
Yes. Sorry. Teach me to post right after I wake up (I work evenings, so,
2pm is normally when I wake up)
Jeff
Check out http://www.voicepulse.net for the
details.
com
12:37 p.m.
New subject: Way OT.....Anybody here using Vonage???
Actually, interestingly enough, I just found out that the tech-editor
for the Wall Street Journal gave high praise to Vonage and VoIP
services... I think I will switch one line, try it out and if happy
move my other two lines, thanks all....
Curt
Jeff Cole wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Curt vendel wrote:
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I know this is way off-topic, but if anyone would
reply off-list:
Just curious if anyone here has tried Vonage broadband phone
service...
I use VoicePulse which is cheaper than Vonage, but, isn't available in
all areas. I've been very happy with it. It comes with a Sipura Phone
Adaptor. One end plugs into my router, the other has a phone jack.
The features I like the most are that it can e-mail me voicemail that
people leave, the ability to set what the caller-id for certain numbers
are (instead of the name, have it say Grandma, Parents, Boss, etc), and
best of all, unlimited local and long distance calls for $25/mo. Very
nice :)
Also, you can have 2 seperate lines with one adapter. A line for you,
and a line for your teenage daughter, or your business or whatever.
I've been very happy with their service, and the sound quality is pretty
decent even with 128k up.
Check out http://www.voicepulse.net for the details.
Jeff
4:32 a.m.
New subject: Way OT.....Anybody here using Vonage???
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Curt vendel wrote:
I know this is way off-topic, but if anyone would
reply off-list:
Just curious if anyone here has tried Vonage broadband phone service, I'm
considering moving to it, but I want to hear from anyone who may be using it
and since this is the pulse of geekdome, I figured somebody else out there
may have tried them out or is going to and I could get some off-list
responses and feedback, thanks.
I do, all the time... works fine, even from here (Holland). I talk
to my son every day, at least an hour, and often we keep an 'open
call' like if it were a baby-phone, so I can hear him.
Setup was a nightmare, mostly because I got the Amazon package, and
their Amazon-based registration stuff failed. After that, however,
it worked fine, and has worked fine, since.
Small comment: although I got the package with the Cisco ATA186
VoIP box, and use that when I am in the U.S., I did ask some people
at Cisco (OK, so I work for em, agreed ;-) to decrypt my config
file, and configured those same settings into my CallManager
configuration here in Holland, because we are Cisco VoIP based
to begin with... this allows me to use my standard phone stuff
with that line.
Cheers,
Fred
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