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by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: Halted > From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:21:58 -0800 (PST) > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >> > They died a really long time ago, probably by 1983. I grew up in >> > Wakefield, MA and remember them well. I used to raid their dumpster and >> > those around them. > >On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Chuck Guzis wrote: >> Poly Paks actually had something left after sending their stuff out >> to put in a dumpster? The mind boggles! :) > >What would Poly Paks reject? Only totally nonfunctional parts without any metals value. Allison

17 years, 3 months

UNIX for the VAXstation or AlphaStation

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: UNIX for the VAXstation or AlphaStation > From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:47:24 -0800 > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >At 10:54 PM -0500 2/27/09, John Floren wrote: >>So, I've got both a VAXstation 4000-60 and an AlphaStation 250 here >>and after playing with it for a bit I've decided I don't really care >>for VMS so much that I want it on both of them. I'd like to find an >>interesting, preferably AT&T-style UNIX to run on one of them, so I'm >>hoping some of you can help me figure out my options. So far, I know I >>can run: >>-NetBSD >>-Probably some DEC/HP UNIXes (Tru64 on the Alpha?). >> >>I'd really appreciate perspectives on these different systems, >>user/admin experience, etc. I'm not looking to accomplish anything in >>particular here, I just want something to play around with on my DEC >>hardware while I wait for the PDP-11 :) > >UNIX is a waste of good DEC hardware! :-) DEC never sold a UNIX >variant that would run on a VAXstation 4000/60. I think NetBSD and >OpenBSD will both run on it. I'll confess that OpenBSD at least used >to rock on Alpha and can handle a machine with less RAM than OpenVMS >expects. Your choice of OS's are a lot wider for the Alpha. DEC sold Ultrix32 (unix BSD flavor) and it was installable on most VAXen. I have 4.2 running on a UVAX2000. >As for a PDP-11, I recommend RT-11, RSTS/E, or RSX-11M+, not UNIX. For low end PDP11 Unix up to V7 runs. If you have one of the I&D machines (11/44, or any of the J-11 cpus) then BSD2.11 is interesting. >For UNIX get a Sun or SGI system, in other words cool hardware that >only runs UNIX. I did buy a nice DECstation 5000/133 (a MIPS box) >years ago to run NetBSD. I wonder what happened to that machine... > All the DEC mips machines run unix (ultrix). Or find an Alpha and run true64. Allison >Zane > > >-- >| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | >| healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | >| MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | >+----------------------------------+----------------------------+ >| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | >| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | >| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

17 years, 3 months

Another classic-computer 'test'

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

This one did the rounds of a system I was on aout 20 years ago. Some of the questions are certainly classic-cmputer related... Enjoy.. -tony ---------------------------- ARD's Hacker Test. To remove the somewhat IBM and UNIX bias from the original Hackers test, here is one which is either non-biased, or DEC biased. Computer Usage -------------- 000000) Have you ever used a _dedicated_ computerised control system? (e.g. the syscon processor in a VCR, so having used a video would count here ) 000001) Have you ever used a computer (general-purpose programmable) 000002) ... For more than 30(8) Hours continuously 000003) Have you ever programmed a computer 000004) ...In assembler 000005) ...In machine code (binary/octal/decimal/hex/whatever) 000006) Has you use of computers ever caused you to miss an important event 000007) Do you work the hours 9-5? 000010) Are they the ones at night? Hardware -------- 000011) Have you ever built a computer 000012) Have you ever designed a computer 000013) ... 16 bit or more 000014) ... 32 bit (or more) 000015) Have you ever repaired a microcomputer 000016) Have you ever repaired a minicomputer 000017) Have you ever debugged an item of computer hardware with minimal test equipment (e.g. LED and resistor, Battery tester) 000020) Did that item contain >100 ic's, and have a logic fault 000021) Have you ever repaired a printer 000022) .... A laser printer 000023) .... A hard disk (demountable or winchester) 000024) .... A floppy disk 000025) .... A paper-tape punch/reader 000026) .... A card punch/reader Can you use : 000027) A logic probe 000030) A logic pulser 000031) A protocol analyser 000032) A manufacturer's maintenance unit (KM11 or whatever) 000033) Have you ever wire-wrapped a board or backplane 000034) .... Did it work first time? 000035) Ever found an undocumented feature in a piece of hardware? 000036) ... Did you exploit it? 000037) Did you complain when later versions/clones didn't have it? 000040) Ever written microcode? 000041) Ever reverse-engineered microcode? 000042) .... Did you find any undocumented features? 000043) .... Did you find any bugs? 000044) Ever linked 2 devices that were claimed to be incompatible 000045) ....Did it work? 000046) Have you ever voided the warranty on a piece of hardware 000047) ...Ever not (owned a piece of hardware for >30mins without voiding the warranty?) 000050) Can you wire an RS232 cable? 000051) ... And get it right first time? Operating systems ----------------- Which of the following OS's have you used: 000052) RT-11 000053) RSX (MCR) 000054) RSX (DCL) 000055) RSTS-E 000056) OS-8 000057) OS-9 000060) MS-DOS 000061) LDOS 000062) UCSD P-system 000063) Unix (Any version) 000064) VM/CMS 000065) MVS or TSO 000066) VMS 000067) TRS-DOS (any version <6.0. versions 6.0 and higher are LDOS!) 000070) CP/M 80 000071) CP/M 86 000072) CP/M 68 000073) Tripos 000074) XtalDOS 000075) XXDP+ 000076) Have you ever sysgened a Operating System (Note, the CPM sysgen program doesn't count, writing/hacking the CBIOS does) 000077) have you ever written a device driver? 000100) ... For a piece of you own-design hardware? 000101) Have you ever found an undocumented feature in an Operating system? 000102) ... Did you use it? 000103) ... Did you abuse it? Micros ------ Which of the following assemblers/machine codes do you know? 000104) 6502 000105) Z80 000106) Z8 000107) Saturn 000110) 6800 000111) 6809 000112) 8080 000113) 8085 000114) 680x0 000115) 80x86 000116) 1802 000117) SC/MP 000120) 32016 (or similar nat/semi processor) 000121) LSI-11 000122) Have you ever cracked a copy-protection scheme? 000123) .... Or created one? 000124) Have you ever created your own disk format? 000125) Have you ever read a disk for one machine on an incompatible machine 000126) ... with your own program? Calculators ------------ 000127) Do you own a programmable calculator? 000130) ... Is it RPN 000131) .....Is it RPL? 000132) Have you ever programmed a calculator in machine code? 000133) Have you ever found an undocumented command on a calculator? 000134) Have you ever logged on to a larger machine from your calculator 000135) Have you ever logged on to your calculator from a larger machine 000136) Have you ever written a significant application program for a pocket calculator 000137) Do you own a desktop calculator 000140) ... Is it mechanical (Monroematic etc)? 000141) ... Does it use core memory? 000142) Can you divide on a monroe, or similar machine? 000143) Have you ever built a peripheral device for a pocket calculator? 000144) Have you ever reverse-engineered the ROMs of a calculator? 000145) Have you ever met the designer of your calculator? Minicomputers ------------- 000146) Have you ever installed a minicomputer 000147) Have you ever upgraded/expanded a minicomputer using ready-made modules or peripherals? 000150) Have you ever annoyed the manufacturer of a minicomputer by making it out-perform the next model up in the range? 000151) Have you ever toggled in the bootstrap code for a minicomputer? 000152) ... For more than 1 type of machine? 000153) Have you ever toggled in a program for a minicomputer other than the bootstrap loader? 000154) Have you ever used a minicomputer other than one made by DEC or IBM? 000155) Have you ever mounted a disk pack? 000156) Or a magtape? 000157) Have you ever used paper tape 000160) Have you ever edited paper tape 000161) Can you read paper tape by eye? 000162) Have you ever used punched cards? 000163) Can you read punched cards by eye? 000164) Have you ever used a hand-punch (one of those with 12 keys - one for each row)? 000165) Have you ever seen/heard a disk crash? 000166) Have you ever rebuilt a crashed drive? 000167) Have you ever watched the flashing lights on a front-panel? 000170) ...for more than 1 hour? D.E.C. ------ 000171) Can you name and describe at least 4 models of PDP11? Can you identify the following (assume someone gave you a board. Could you work out what it is)? 000172) An SPC board 000173) A dual-height UNIBUS peripheral 000174) A MUD board 000175) A Q-Bus peripheral (Dual Height) 000176) A Q-bus peripheral using CD interconnect 000177) A Quad-Height Q-BUS board 000200) Can you tell an RL01 pack from an RL02 pack? 000201) ... At 20 feet? Can you expand these acronyms? 000202) SPC 000203) ODT 000204) RSX 000205) PDP 000206) PDT 000207) VAX What sort of device would your data be on if it's name was : (Ignore logical devices!) 000210) DX0: 000211) PP: 000212) DL0: 000213) DM0: 000214) CR: 000215) DD: 000216) PD: Can you identify these DEC boards? 000217) M7821 000220) M8100 000221) M7800 Can you find DCL equivalents for : 000222) PIP DM1:[*,*]*.MAC;*/LI 000223) SET /cli=tt3:dcl Can you find MCR equivalents for 000224) DEL DL3:[1,4]TEMP.TXT 000225) show queue Languages/Application software ------------------------------ Which of the following languages do you know? 000226) PL/M 000227) Lisp 000230) RPL 000231) FORTH 000232) APL 000233) ... Have you ever used an APL terminal? 000234) PL/Z 000235) Occam 000236) Postscript Which of the following have you written? 000237) Language Compiler 000240) Language Interpreter 000241) Assembler 000242) Disassembler 000243) Monitor (Rom preferably) 000244) Editor/Text processor 000245) Spreadsheet 000246) Database 000247) Data Aquisition system 000250) Real-time control system 000251) Have you ever found a bug in a commercial program? 000252) Do you never comment code? 000253) Do you prefer to find commands by disassembling the program, rather than reading the manual? 000254) Do you edit your programs by patching the Binary? 000255) Is TECO your favourite editor? General ------- There now follow a mixed lot of questions to test your knowledge of some of the obscure bits of computing and to see just how mad you are. 000256) Have you ever sent e-mail 000257) ... Internationally 000260) ... Between 2 sites in the same country, but going through a second country 000261) Do you read USEnet News? 000262) Do you post to USEnet News? 000263) Have you ever had a program of yours distributed by a mail-server? 000264) Do you prefer meeting computers to meeting people? 000265) Do you count on your fingers in Binary? 000266) Do you own a talking door? 000267) Have you ever logged on to a talking door? 000270) Do you know the ASCII code table? 000271) ... In Octal? 000272) Do you use 8" disks? 000273) ... Do you carry them in your pocket? 000274) Do you own a computer? 000275) ...more than 4? 000276) ...more than 10(8)? 000277) ...more than 40(8)? 000300) Have you ever eaten a floppy disk? 000301) ...paper tape? 000302) ...Punched cards? 000303) Do you carry a computer (or advanced pocket calculator) around with you? 000304) Do/Did you take your lecture notes on a computer? 000305) Do you know more computer phone numbers than people's phone numbers? 000306) Do you use VMS phone, Broadcast or similar to communicate with the chap sitting next to you? 000307) Have you ever transmitted software on an IR beam? 000310) Are you a member of a User Group? 000311) ...Have you founded a user group? 000312) Is your first question on meeting a person 'What computer do you use?'? 000313) Do you think that a mouse is 'a filthy creature that squeaks and spreads disease'? 000314) Do you wish your brain had an RS232 port? 000315) Do you wish that 'Caps lock' keys were remote controllable? 000316) Can you expand the expression 'FUBAR'? 000317) ...SNAFU? 000320) ...RYFM? 000321) Do you have a collection of old bits of computer? 000322) Do you have core memory? 000323) ... Delay line memory? 000324) ... Demountable hard disk? 000325) ... High-speed paper tape? 000326) Does your brain ever crash? 000327) ... Get interrupt-bound? 000330) ... Loose context? 000331) Have you ever repaired a teletype? 000332) Have you ever removed that screw in the ASR33 that causes various bits to become airborne? 000333) ...Did you get them back together again? 000334) Do you type random commands 'just to see what happens'? 000335) ... In TECO? 000336) Have you ever cut a computer in half? 000337) Did it work afterwards? 000340) Have you ever aligned a floppy disk head? 000341) ...A hard disk head? 000342) ...A print head? 000343) Do you have any line printer pictures (TTYpics)? 000344) Do you draw circuit diagrams as TTYpics? 000345) ... Do you then submit them to USEnet News? 000346) Do you know any computer jokes? 000347) Do you have to explain them to people? 000350) Do you know about (DEC) flip-chip? 000351) Have you ever used flip-chip? 000352) On what machine is 207F the opcode for HALT? 000353) Where would you use synthetic programming? 000354) Do you own the circuit diagrams of your computer? 000355) ...The Microcode source? 000356) ...The OS source? 000357) ...The diagnostic source? 000360) Have you ever found bugs in any of the above? 000361) Have you ever punched dot-matrix characters on paper tape (or cards)? 000362) ... Have you projected the image with an OHP? 000363) Have you used/do you own a vector graphics unit? 000364) If asked 'Do you want <A> or <B>?' do you often reply 'Yes'? 000365) Can you write a (mathematical) routine quicker than it takes to find the documentation, and understand it, for the one in the standard library? 000366) Have you ever named your computer? 000367) In what number system does: 1+1=110 and 110+110=100? 000370) Do you ever build hardware just to get round the need of writing a program? 000371) Do you write 'Do Not fold,spindle or mutilate' on items to be sent by snail-mail 000372) Do you wish to be buried 'Face down, nine edge first'? 000373) Do you ever 'push buttons, just to see what happens'? 000374) Have you ever filled a printer with water? 000375) ... Did it work better at the end? 000376) Have you ever run a multi-user machine? 000377) Do you have a collection of computer trivia (e.g. Nutworks). Scoring. ------- Count 1 point for each yes, or question answered correctly. If your score is between: You are: 000000 and 000010 Naive User 000011 and 000040 User 000041 and 000100 Hacker 000101 and 000200 Sage 000201 and 000300 Guru 000301 and 000377 Wizard

17 years, 3 months

DEC AXP 3000/800 Parts Available (UK)

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Hi List, I have a DEC 3000/800 AXP that I've not been able to get working fully, so I'm providing the opportunity for parts before the rest goes for recycling. The box was complete, and has the following items of note: Motherboard Processor I/O board Power supply (good output rails) 3.3V VRM Module All wiring Harnesses Audio IO support board with diagnostics seven segment displays. Memory carriers (I'm keeping the memory as it's compatible with the 3000/600 I have) Fans It was complete, so anything that you might expect can be supplied. All I'm asking is the cost of postage, paid via paypal or cheque. Clearly there is an issue with the box as it stands that I've not been able to isolate, which would point to either the I/O board or the motherboard, but you might get lucky with either. Please contact me off list. Regards, Mark.

17 years, 3 months

5.25" drives free for shipping from austin, tx

by frustum＠pacbell.net

I found a box of drives that I had been given years ago and had forgotten about. All are used and pulled from working systems (TRS-80s mostly). All have black face plates. half height: TEAC FD-55FV-35-U (80 track, 720KB) Matsushita SA455 (40 trk, ds) yes I know sa455 is a shugart designation, but that is what the label says Toshiba (40 track, ds) (part of the label is missing) ... 02 REV A Mitsubishi M4854 double sided; web search says "1.2MB" Mitsubishi M4854 double sided; web search says "1.2MB" Shugart SA465 "720K 5.25 Double Sided, Quad Density" written in pencil: "OK 4-90" full height: tandon, relabeled "texas perhipherals" type unknown, but probably 40 track, ss tandon tm100-1A (ss, 40 trk, 180K), bezel says "MTI 140 / MOD III PLUS" MPI Model 52 This might be crap; there is a hand written note on the side, written in sharpie, saying "Head #1 read only" Request one, any combination, or all. Local pickup gets priority. Otherwise, if there are multiple requests for the same drive, the random number generator of a Wang 2200 will decide the winner. I reserve the right to skew the results to minimize the number of boxes I need to ship. None of these drives have protective cardboard inserts. The drives will be bubble wrapped for shipment.

17 years, 3 months

(Montreal) DEC and Sun junk, Dell workstation, personal request

by alexandre.laguejacques＠gmail.com

Hello all, Five items for local pickup that may interest the members of the list. The first three items are basically junk and will be thrown out because I'm moving. The parts may be useful to someone. Everything is free except the last item. 1. DEC AlphaServer 1000A Fans turn but no boot. Had already asked here for advice but can't seem to fix it. May be a power supply issue but can't find a replacement at a reasonable price. Includes memory (appears good), PCI ethernet card, video card. 2. Sun GDM-1604-15 Fixed frequency colour monitor, 4xBNC input. Missing pedestal. Works but there is no vertical control and the image is slightly strechted beyond the top and bottom borders of the screen. Was given to me by a generous list member and has served me well when I need a console on a Sun. 3. DEC LK461-A2 Looks like an English (UK?) layout with a PS/2 connector. Verified PC compatible, but with a VMS layout. Missing both feet at the back. Had bought the French Canadian version on eBay and they sent this instead. Go figure. 4. Linksys EtherFast PC Card PCM100-CA No dongle! Good for old laptops (16 bit PCMCIA). 5. Dell Precision 220 - 100$ Pentium III 733 MHz (single but dual possible), 512 MB (2x256 MB) RDRAM, Matrox dual display card, 9.2 GB Ultra3 60 pin SCSI hard drive, recent Netgear wireless card with Atheros chipset (WG311T), PCI ethernet card. Worked great as a server running FreeBSD. IMHO worth the price alone for the RDRAM and the wireless card. I'll probably post more messages between now and the month of June as I sort through my stuff. ***REQUEST *** If anyone knows a source for a cheap but more modern (and working) Alpha, please drop me a line. I'd also love a VMS compatible Integrity but I'm dreaming. Or some cheap SGI kit. Thanks! - Alex

17 years, 3 months

FS: DEC H3104 (36-Pin to 8 MMJ ports) -- New, never opened

by eric940＠gmail.com

For USA folks only, sorry... I have 3 of these: DEC H3104 (36-Pin to 8 MMJ ports) They are all new, in factory sealed bubble wrap, never opened (not even for the pictures). All include mounting screws. PHOTOS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35806042 at N03/ $10 each (includes shipping - will provide tracking number) Please reply off list if interested. -Eric

17 years, 3 months

Free: IBM 3151 31/41 DEC/IBM terminal emulation cartridge

by eric940＠gmail.com

(USA folks only, please.) IBM 3151 31/41 Cartridge Part number: 94X4114 PICTURE: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35806042 at N03/sets/72157614533585520/ Never used it myself, but apparently emulates IBM & DEC terminals. Found it at my last job. I'm guessing it plugs into an IBM terminal? Doesn't seem to have a standard PCMCIA edge connector. Out of curiosity, I wouldn't mind knowing a bit more about it. Contact me off list, and it's yours free. -Eric

17 years, 3 months

Antikythera fans

by rdawson16＠hotmail.com

wondering if you guys love this as much as I do. I would like to make a user group/club for it if there is enough interest For myself, I am fully equipped here with machine capability and stage one is to make the model (2005) as currently known. Stage 2 is heck make these in volume, its a marvelous thing and may be profitable. You cannot find a better classic computer than this. Randy Dawson _________________________________________________________________ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Access_022009

17 years, 3 months

SGI 4D/220s

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

>Just scored a couple SGI 4D/220s from a government auction site. >Anyone have any familiarity with these? Anything I should look out >for besides what's > >Crappy auction pics: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/vintage/images/4D-220-1.jpg> <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/vintage/images/4D-220-2.jpg> So you bought those twin tower systems. We were all crying over them. Those are Twin Tower 4D systems as you can already see and they are not the most powerful things out there as they are pretty old. They should be able to run Irix 4.0.5 but that is it and I don't know much about Irix software older than version 5.3 so you better hope that there are some GL demos installed. In all honesty I recommend you go talk to the folks over at http://www.nekochan.net as they are the last people on the net really to tame these old beasts. I also recommend http://www.martnet.com/~bobd/sgi/4dfaq.html as it contains a nice FAQ and tells you how to make a serial terminal cable adapter which is essential for any SGI system. John.

17 years, 3 months

Powering up a 20-year old MicroVAX II

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

Thanks for all the replies over the last few days. I am sorry I have not replied to them, I have been away for work all week (and will be away again over the next few weeks). I thought I would gather up my various responses into one email, so here goes. To the person who asked about the enclosure. This is a BA23 and has only one PSU, so without that PSU I cannot try to get the machine running again. The harness I have is not the same as either of the two that someone sent me pictures of. It is not a ribbon cable, it has discrete wires, of different lengths, its part number is 70-20450-01, rev C1 and there is a date of 9th Dec 1985 on it. The actual connectors though look like the connectors on the bad ribbon cable harness, I think they are MTA-156. Some have suggested it blew because I had insufficient load. I had a TK50 and an RD53 attached, would that no be sufficient. Furthermore I did not actually switch the PSU on, just connected it to the mains, would the load connected to the PSU matter when the PSU is not actually switched on? There was also a suggestion that the PSU would have needed switching separately for 50Hz operation as well. The hardware manual I have for the machine tells me how to switch between 110 and 240, but does not say anything about switching it for frequency, so I suspect this was not an issue here. >From the various responses I think it would be unwise for me to attempt a repair. Is there anyone on this list who is in the UK who would be willing and able to fix this PSU, or who knows someone who might be? Thanks Rob

17 years, 3 months

free for shipping things on ebay

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

I will be continually adding listings on Ebay that will run at fixed prices until sold. For those of you reading cctalk, if you make me an offer for zero and reference cctalk, the item is yours for shipping. Check my stuff out at http://myworld.ebay.com/frotz661. If you're not on speaking terms with Ebay, take a look anyway and email me if you like something you see. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

17 years, 3 months

Paging Ethan Dicks

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Ethan Dicks said he wanted the copy of Zaks' "CP/M Handbook" I offered up in October. We both forgot about it. I tried emailing him at his usap.gov address just now and that came back as invalid. Ethan, if you're reading this, please email me! -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

17 years, 3 months

Xerox 8010 system software diskettes

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Spread across several ziplock bags I found a bunch of system diskettes for the venerable Xerox 8010. The disks are in excellent condition and there are lots of duplicates. Is there a museum in need of some of these? Also, would someone please point me to a list of diskettes originally shipped with the machine? -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

17 years, 3 months

UNIX for the VAXstation or AlphaStation

by slawmaster＠gmail.com

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > At 12:03 AM -0500 2/28/09, John Floren wrote: >> >> It's not so much what I have as what I will be soon inheriting from >> the good folks over at the Laboratory for Laser Energetics; I'm not >> sure of the exact model but it's a MicroPDP-11 of some type. Comes >> with an RX02. More details when it actually gets decommissioned and I >> pick it up. > > Sounds like you might be getting a MINC-11. > > Zane > Cool as a MINC-11 would be, I've seen the system and it's in a standard BA23, not the MINC box. John -- "I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I'm going back to C, Hunter S. Thompson, and cheap whiskey." -- Ted Dziuba

17 years, 3 months

UNIX for the VAXstation or AlphaStation

by slawmaster＠gmail.com

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > At 11:54 PM -0500 2/27/09, John Floren wrote: >> >> The PDP-11 has RT-11 loaded already, so I look forward to playing with >> that; when I get it home and can check exactly what the >> processor/memory/disk values are, then do some research into whether >> or not it would be possible to try RSTS/E or RSX-11M+ on it too. > > I really like RT-11. ?I don't follow the list like I used to (no time), what > kind of a PDP-11 do you have? > > Zane > It's not so much what I have as what I will be soon inheriting from the good folks over at the Laboratory for Laser Energetics; I'm not sure of the exact model but it's a MicroPDP-11 of some type. Comes with an RX02. More details when it actually gets decommissioned and I pick it up. John -- "I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I'm going back to C, Hunter S. Thompson, and cheap whiskey." -- Ted Dziuba

17 years, 3 months

UNIX for the VAXstation or AlphaStation

by slawmaster＠gmail.com

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > At 10:54 PM -0500 2/27/09, John Floren wrote: >> >> So, I've got both a VAXstation 4000-60 and an AlphaStation 250 here >> and after playing with it for a bit I've decided I don't really care >> for VMS so much that I want it on both of them. I'd like to find an >> interesting, preferably AT&T-style UNIX to run on one of them, so I'm >> hoping some of you can help me figure out my options. So far, I know I >> can run: >> -NetBSD >> -Probably some DEC/HP UNIXes (Tru64 on the Alpha?). >> >> I'd really appreciate perspectives on these different systems, >> user/admin experience, etc. I'm not looking to accomplish anything in >> particular here, I just want something to play around with on my DEC >> hardware while I wait for the PDP-11 :) > > UNIX is a waste of good DEC hardware! :-) ?DEC never sold a UNIX variant > that would run on a VAXstation 4000/60. ?I think NetBSD and OpenBSD will > both run on it. ?I'll confess that OpenBSD at least used to rock on Alpha > and can handle a machine with less RAM than OpenVMS expects. ?Your choice of > OS's are a lot wider for the Alpha. > > As for a PDP-11, I recommend RT-11, RSTS/E, or RSX-11M+, not UNIX. > > For UNIX get a Sun or SGI system, in other words cool hardware that only > runs UNIX. ?I did buy a nice DECstation 5000/133 (a MIPS box) years ago to > run NetBSD. ?I wonder what happened to that machine... > > Zane > The PDP-11 has RT-11 loaded already, so I look forward to playing with that; when I get it home and can check exactly what the processor/memory/disk values are, then do some research into whether or not it would be possible to try RSTS/E or RSX-11M+ on it too. John -- "I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I'm going back to C, Hunter S. Thompson, and cheap whiskey." -- Ted Dziuba

17 years, 3 months

SGI 4D/220s

by legalize＠xmission.com

Just scored a couple SGI 4D/220s from a government auction site. Anyone have any familiarity with these? Anything I should look out for besides what's Crappy auction pics: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/vintage/images/4D-220-1.jpg> <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/vintage/images/4D-220-2.jpg> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

17 years, 3 months

Not sure this is classic enough...

by lproven＠gmail.com

Would anyone be interested in an original, complete copy of Windows 3.1 on 1.2MB 5?" floppies? Just uncovered during a clearout... -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat, Yahoo & Skype: liamproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

17 years, 3 months

Recommendations for AIM-65 power supply?

by derschjo＠mail.msu.edu

Title basically says it all -- anyone have any recommendations for a decent power supply for an AIM-65? I have it running right now on just 5V, but I need something that puts out 24V so I can run the little printer, too :). It'd be nice nice to something small enough to fit inside the enclosure this thing came in but I'm not that picky. My searches on the 'net reveal a lot of choices, so I'm looking for advice on what to look out for. For those playing along at home, the AIM-65 wants 5V at ~2A, and 24V at ~2.5A. Thanks! Josh

17 years, 3 months

Overland Data 9-track drive

by IanK＠vulcan.com

In one of my fortunately few poor deals on eBay, I bought an Overland Data 9-track drive, identified on its tag as an OD 3601 GCR. It's an interesting unit, a bit bigger than a briefcase and standing "on end" with the drive reels facing out. It has both a Pertec-style interface and a PC serial interface. It looks pretty cool. There are only two problems. One is a broken door hinge - not a big deal. The other is that the drive does not respond to any control input - a big deal. After asking about, someone told me that the flashing LEDs on its face mean that its main electronics have failed. I'm guessing that one or more of the many EPROMs in it have lost their minds. It's a really nice looking unit, but it doesn't work. So I have an offer or two I'd like to make. If you perhaps have one of these drives, and it has a bad mechanism but good electronics, I'd be glad to give this to you for the actual cost of shipping. On the other hand, if you have those good electronics but don't want/need the drive, I'd be glad to talk about obtaining the innards from you for a nominal cost (shipping and some beer money, perhaps). Anyone interested? Thanks -- Ian PS: this is a piece in my personal collection. I'm just using this email account because this is where I read the list.

17 years, 3 months

Copying simh images onto real disks

by toby＠coreware.co.uk

I've been trying to get BSD 2.11 running on my uPDP-11/73. Rather than going the vtserver route, I thought I'd try to speed things along by making a disk image under simh and then copying it onto a SCSI disk for use on the PDP-11. I successfully built a 300MB disk image under simh from the BSD 2.11 tape and then copied this onto the SCSI disk with: dd if=bsd211.dsk of=/dev/sda However, when I put the disk onto the -11 and try to boot DU0, it just hangs. Anyone know where I am going wrong? Many thanks, Toby -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

17 years, 3 months

Apple Laserwriter 16/600PS, parts/repair, free

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

I have an Apple Laserwriter 16/600PS available for free, just pay shipping. (continental US only, please) It functions, but it jams 30-50% of the time. It is just wearing out. I've babied it for many years and it is in pretty good shape otherwise. If you want to (probably) replace the pickup rollers and give it a good cleaning, you'll have an absolutely wonderful 16PPM, 600DPI, TCP/IP-capable Ethernet-connected PostScript laser printer that works well in the Mac, Windows, and UNIX/Linux worlds. It comes with a paper tray, but no toner cartridge. (same cartridge as HPLJ 4/4M/etc, Canon EX engine if memory serves) Continental US shipping should be $40 or so. PayPal me that and it's yours. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL

17 years, 3 months

DEC Equipment - Tucson, AZ

by technobug＠comcast.net

I was wandering around my local scrapper and found four PDP11/23+ chassis (without cards) and three RL02 on a pallet in purgatory (prior to triage). If there is any interest, drop him a line @ "<keith at swliquidators.com >. He promised to hold them for a week or so prior to making a decision to scrap. CRC

17 years, 3 months

More Info RE: Emulex SCSI Controllers available...

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

I've received a number of responses from folks - and a few questions. Here's answers to the most common questions: 1) Is there a warranty? Yes the boards are guaranteed by the dealer to not be DOA. I just re-checked - and he's agreeable to a 15 day warranty. My guess is that if you went a few more days, he'd cover it - but he would like whoever gets the boards to check them out right away. ALL boards will be pre-tested by the dealer on a QBUS system using RT before shipping. All will have the latest EPROMS. 2) Is it standard QBUS (i.e., not "S") Yes. 3) Is the SCSI port standard 50-pin? Yes. Lyle ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Emulex SCSI Controllers available... Date: Thursday 26 February 2009 From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> I was chatting with a DEC broker recently regarding SCSI controllers for DEC gear - when he mentioned that he had a quantity of Emulex UC07's available. UC07's are QBUS cards which have a single SCSI port and support either MSCP or TMSCP (in RT land, that would be either DU or MU devices). The manual states that the UC07 is compatible with RT, RSX, RSTS/E and Ultrix versions which support MSCP or TMSCP. The dealers initial price was high (as expected). However, he then added - "I'd be willing to do better for hobbyists - as long as they commit that the boards will only be used for hobby purposes - and not for commercial use". So here's the "deal": $235 per UC07 plus shipping from Mountain View, CA (FedEx Ground). I've paid MUCH more for SCSI interfaces for my DEC QBUS and UNIBUS systems - so IMHO, this is a great deal. The broker said he did not want to deal "individually with a bunch of hobbyists" - so he asked if I would be willing to consolodate a single order of UC07's to him. I reluctantly said "yes", as this is not my business and I'm not interested in making money on this deal - only covering costs. To get a sense of interest, please reply to me privately if you'd like one or more if these "critters". The manual for the UC07 is available on bitsavers. A link to a bitsavers mirror is below: http://bitsavers.vt100.net/pdf/emulex/UC0751001-F_UC07_Feb90.pdf Regards, Lyle -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" ------------------------------------------------------- -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

17 years, 3 months

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