21 Feb
2009
21 Feb
'09
7:30 p.m.
wondering if you guys love this as much as I do.
I would like to make a user group/club for it if there is enough interest
For myself, I am fully equipped here with machine capability and stage one is to make the
model (2005) as currently known.
Stage 2 is heck make these in volume, its a marvelous thing and may be profitable.
You cannot find a better classic computer than this.
Randy Dawson
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21 Feb
21 Feb
7:35 p.m.
Before doing anything Antikythera-related, you and anyone interested * MUST
* read the (relatively new) book by Jo Marchant, called "Decoding the
Heavens" .... it is 99% excellent.
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Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:30 PM
To: classic computers
Subject: Antikythera fans
wondering if you guys love this as much as I do.
I would like to make a user group/club for it if there is enough interest
For myself, I am fully equipped here with machine capability and stage one
is to make the model (2005) as currently known.
Stage 2 is heck make these in volume, its a marvelous thing and may be
profitable.
You cannot find a better classic computer than this.
Randy Dawson
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7:35 p.m.
Randy Dawson wrote:
wondering if you guys love this as much as I do.
I would like to make a user group/club for it if there is enough interest
For myself, I am fully equipped here with machine capability and stage one is to make the
model (2005) as currently known.
Stage 2 is heck make these in volume, its a marvelous thing and may be profitable.
You cannot find a better classic computer than this.
I consider stonehenge the classic computer.
Randy Dawson
7:52 p.m.
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
The Antikythera is the classic PDA?
Naw, more like an early GPS device. =3
--
"I laugh because I dare not cry. This is a crazy world
and the only way to enjoy it is to treat it as a joke."
-- Hilda "Sharpie" Burroughs,
"The Number of the Beast" by Robert A. Heinlein
7:54 p.m.
>> You cannot find a better classic computer than
this.
I'm not convinced it is an analog computer.
Marchant addresses this in her book. She sought the opinion of Doron Swade,
who built the replica Babbage machine and wrote his book "The Cogwheel
Brain" about it. Doron said he DOES consider the A.D. to be a computer.
But he, Sellam, and I traded a few emails on this subject, and we three all
agree it's open to debate. In my opinion, it comes down to the question of
input / variables. Otehr than how much its operator turns the crank, the
A.D. does not have any variable input. So I say it's not actually
"computing" anything because no matter what you do, its output is fixed.
22 Feb
22 Feb
8:03 a.m.
Evan Koblentz wrote:
Otehr than how much its operator turns the crank, the
A.D. does not have any variable input. So I say it's not actually
"computing" anything because no matter what you do, its output is fixed.
It's important to put it into perspective--you can debate for hours if
you don't first use the proper context related to computing design.
Each time a gear turns, it _is_ 'calculating.'
The amount of turns is your 'variable input'
You, the person, are the 'computer'
Remember the room full of ladies slaving over the adding machines
<http://tinyurl.com/cmwnfk>--they were the 'computers'--not the adding
machines.
e.g. step.1:Enter data, step.2:Calculate Data, step.4:Store Data,
step.5:Repeat,
Although, building a replica is a good challenge.
You need very good detailed plans of the design--which should be "open
source"
=Dan
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[ = http://www2.applegate.org/~ragooman/ ]
7:24 a.m.
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:35:09 -0700, bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca wrote:
Randy Dawson wrote:
> You cannot find a better classic computer than this.
I consider stonehenge the classic computer.
I agree.
Stonehenge uses base 56 interger math to calculate eclipses.
See: http://www.eclipse-chasers.com/tseStonehenge.html
The other Bob
3:13 p.m.
>I consider stonehenge the classic computer.
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Bob Bradlee wrote:
I agree.
Stonehenge uses base 56 interger math to calculate eclipses.
See: http://www.eclipse-chasers.com/tseStonehenge.html
But the Antikythera calculates the olympics!
Will the replica require reprogramming for that?
3:34 p.m.
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:13:04 -0800 (PST), Fred Cisin wrote:
> >I consider stonehenge the classic computer.
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Bob Bradlee wrote:
> I agree.
> Stonehenge uses base 56 interger math to calculate eclipses.
> See: http://www.eclipse-chasers.com/tseStonehenge.html
But the Antikythera calculates the olympics!
Will the replica require reprogramming for that?
I thought it calcuated the return of the mother ship, and either slipped a cog,
or it's time has come and gone, leaving us with several more unanswered questions.
The least being how to reset/restart it.
Climbing back under my rock ....
Bob
6:04 p.m.
Bob Bradlee wrote:
I thought it calcuated the return of the mother ship, and either slipped a cog,
or it's time has come and gone, leaving us with several more unanswered questions.
The least being how to reset/restart it.
What I find strange is that the corossion was still on the gears. I thought that
could be
electricaly reversed somewhat. I found modern science is all hype about claming
to find something out, but never telling just what they found.
Climbing back under my rock ....
Bob
Stick to Stonehenge Bob ... more rocks ... some even clamed to float,
11 a.m.
I have a life-long interest in the Antikythera mechanism (whether or not it is called
analog or digital, or the earliest or not).
I don't have my shop back in working condition yet and have limited time. That apart,
I am very interested.
Vern
--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Randy Dawson <rdawson16 at hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Randy Dawson <rdawson16 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Antikythera fans
To: "classic computers" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 7:30 PM
wondering if you guys love this as much as I do.
I would like to make a user group/club for it if there is
enough interest
For myself, I am fully equipped here with machine
capability and stage one is to make the model (2005) as
currently known.
Stage 2 is heck make these in volume, its a marvelous thing
and may be profitable.
You cannot find a better classic computer than this.
Randy Dawson
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28 Feb
28 Feb
10:39 a.m.
Hi Randy,
I responded quite favorably to your proposal. I'm wondering whether you got any other
people really interested in the Antikythera device, and whether you are going to go on
with the project.
It'll probably be a couple of months before my shop is workable again; moving and all
that. But I am interested.
Regards,
Vern Wright
--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Randy Dawson <rdawson16 at hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Randy Dawson <rdawson16 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Antikythera fans
To: "classic computers" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 7:30 PM
wondering if you guys love this as much as I do.
I would like to make a user group/club for it if there is
enough interest
For myself, I am fully equipped here with machine
capability and stage one is to make the model (2005) as
currently known.
Stage 2 is heck make these in volume, its a marvelous thing
and may be profitable.
You cannot find a better classic computer than this.
Randy Dawson
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Hotmail.
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