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by gm10＠consulnix.com

Hi, I was curious if anyone had any information about (or experience with) LOBO Systems MAX-80's. I have four of these, and they came with no accessories, documentation, etc. I found an operations manual and a Technical Reference manual, but that's about it. My only testing so far was to connect them to an NTSC monitor, and all I get is some static-like display. Reading the operation manuals, it says something to the extent that it should display static if there are no disk drives attached. But another part of the manual says it should show some text on power-on. I am hoping to connect a floppy to one of these soon, and try to get it to do something useful -- but I wanted to ping the list to see if anybody has played with one of these, or might have additional documentation. Thanks, Garrett Meiers

13 years, 6 months

collusions

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

its come to my attention that theres quite a bit of crosstalk - quote, unquote - on the list lately. Maybe for a long time. I find this very hurtful, not to mention unprofessional, downright unwholesome. If you should be made aware of these intentionally super secret cabals, its your responsibility to expose them immediately. Thank you.

13 years, 6 months

Black Hole nearly dead

by legalize＠xmission.com

The Black Hole surplus in Los Alamos was supposed to close Monday, but they still have a crapload of stuff they are trying to sell, so they will continue to be open on a weird schedule. I went down there this Sunday (yes, they were open on Sunday for a change) to get the 3 Tektronix RGB monitors that go with the Tektronix 4125 that I pulled out of there on my last trip. (Returned with a 5x8 Uhaul covered trailer filled to the top and my car full as well, plus a little overflow on Will Donzelli's trailer.) While rummaging around one last time, I pulled out some more odd non-PS/2 keyboards (VT220, Intergraph, Cray Viking, Amiga, HP 264x), a Tektronix digitizing tablet w/puck & PSU, some manuals (mostly Tektronix), a case of DEC fanfold paper tape and 5 cases of punch cards. Still remaining down there that might be of interest to others: - VAX 3500 in the pedestal case - early model TI Silent 700 desktop - 8 late model Silent 700s with the snap-on case - Televideo 921 terminal (no keyboard) - ASR33 on a pedestal, kinda rough shape - Tektronix 3621 hard copy unit - lots of punched cards, NIB, some in case boxes (5 boxes per case) - paper tape, some of it whole boxes - mylar tape - 2x IBM model 26 card punch - lots of Friden calculators - several Friden flexowriter desks - 2x modcomp racks, looks like they were for disks, but the disks are gone and the wiring harnesses are cut - lots of chart paper rolls, generally free -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

13 years, 6 months

HP 9820A

by pye＠mactec.com.au

I was dropping off some rubbish today at the local council dump, and noticed an old HP machine in the trailer next to me. I didn't even say anything, I just stopped and stared at it and the guy asked if I wanted it. When I said yeah, he replied with "shame you weren't a few minutes earlier, I just chucked two others in the recycling bin and all the manuals and tapes/cards are in the pit." Turned out to be an HP 9820A, and I managed to get the other 9820A and a 9810A out of the recycling bin without anyone noticing. Unfortunately couldn't retrieve anything else. Just wondering if there is anything in particular to watch out for when powering up one of these for the first time other than normal power supply checks? I (obviously) don't know much about these machines at all, but I'm particularly mystified about how the built in card reader worked (is it magnetic?).. Could it be written to as well? Cheers, Chris

13 years, 6 months

VCF Midwest

by silent700＠gmail.com

Greetings from the 7th annual Vintage Computer Festival Midwest! The 'fest is well under way, well-attended and chock full-o-nerds. Updates and occasional pics can be found here: https://twitter.com/vcfmidwest Full pic galleries to come... -j -- silent700.blogspot.com Retrocomputing and collecting in the Chicago area: http://chiclassiccomp.org

13 years, 6 months

Scelbi PCB Card Guides

by nick.allen＠comcast.net

Hi Everyone, had an amazing time at VCFMW this year, looking forward to VCF East! Anyone have any recommendations on where to source the PCB card guides used in the Scelbi? I am working on a chasis for a Mark 8 Minicomputer and want to use the same style card guides. Thanks for your time, -Nick

13 years, 6 months

Model Computers (was: UNIVAC model)

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > Out of curiosity, have any of us here created a model of a system like this? > I have to admit that in the past I gave serious thought to modeling a > PDP-10. I have not as of yet, but because of the studio photographs on the covers of many of the 1970s DEC handbooks, I've wanted to make 1/12 scale models of PDP-11s. For bonus points, the terminals would work. ;-) The mechanical data to draft these up is surely available in site planning guides and maintenance printsets. It's a lot of work, but I think it's totally feasible. -ethan

13 years, 6 months

Interesting court case on tv used facebook as evidence

by barythrin＠gmail.com

I'm sure I'm late to the game here but I was stuffing my face with pizza and diet coke with my BPA filled cup at a restaurant while they hypnotize me with TV in my face. Anyway, something that struck me as odd although I normally don't listen much to the star struck lawsuit tv shows was a lady suing an ex-roommate for property stolen during a move out debate. I'll leave the long story short but in the argument the plaintiff brought up a facebook conversation apparently between her and the defendant as evidence. The judge asked the defendant if she was aware of the tv or if she denies taking it and of course she denied it, then brought up the conversation which mentions the tv and the defendant apparently commented on it saying it was a loss or something. In the long run the plaintiff lost the case as she wasn't there during the incident, the defendant used the popular defense that it wasn't her on her facebook account arguing and was someone else and the judge said it was all circumstantial evidence so the case was lost. I'm just curious if someone here has legal experience but wouldn't a conversation on facebook have an expectation of privacy? Is that legally allowable in court if it's private email? I wasn't sure if since it's obviously related to the case if there's an exception or obviously if it was a public wall post then it was meant for the public to see and you wouldn't have any expectation of privacy. Since in the IT field we all are probably familiar with having to create disclaimers everywhere for expected use and no privacy, etc it's a curious line for email. Last I recall even though a person uses your computer (i.e. they don't own the equipment) they still have an expectation of privacy and their personal email shouldn't be monitored without consent. I believe universities end up with this conundrum often with personal computers attached to their network, etc. Does anyone here have legal experience for electronic monitoring or submission to court in this day and age? I know it's more likely just an opinion topic I just expected the judge to say something about the evidence not being admissible.

13 years, 6 months

new member

by tom_a_sparks＠yahoo.com.au

----- Original Message ----- > Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:55:18 +0100 (BST) > From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: new member > Message-ID: <m1TFrKu-000J4ZC at p850ug1> > Content-Type: text/plain > >> >>? I have just subscribed to this mailing list a few day ago > > Greeitngs ans welcome to the list. <snip> > There are many I think. It depends on what you mean by a GUI. DO you > incldue windowing systems that had a good command line interpretter, but > had some programs that were operated with pointign device (mouse), > pull-down menus, etc? I would, or at least I'd regard them as a close > ancestor. > > With that in mind : > > I notice you haven't included any of the 'classic' wokstations. <snip> they are unofficial on my wish-list, but until a hardware emulation version is made, i'll wait > For smaller machines, there were several graphicl front-ennds for MS-DOS. > And Microsoft Windows ran on non-IBM-compatibles. IMHO the HP150 version > of Windows is interesting for that reason. I know about Dr's Gem and 16bit Geos, Visi On > > There was a graphical frontend for OS-9 (Microware's OS, nothing to do > with the Mac) on the CoCo3 called, IIRC, Multiview. i'll have to looking to that > >>? ????* BBC micro (wrote programs using usborne computer books from the >>? 1980 without the hardware) > > The Beeb should be very easy to find unless you want soem exotic version, > likw an Acorn Cambridge WOrkstation or an Acorn Business Computer. > > >>? ????* Altair 8800 / IMSAI 8080 reproduction versions > > I'd go for an HP9830. It's easier to find than an original Altair, it > was > the first comptue that was an all-in-one machine that you put on a > desk/bench, plgged into the mains and typed BASIC on. I'ts certainly a > candidate for 'first personal computer. don't get me started on the 'first personal computer' > > You don't say where you are in the world (this is an international list), Australia <snip> > > One final point (for the moment). You seem to be interested in the real > hardware, which is good, I am in three minds/worlds when it comes to real hardware: classic hardware only lasts as long are there are parts to repair them hardware emulation/remakes[1]: smaller than the classic hardware software emulations: no physical space need > but do rmemeber it will need repairs from time > to time. Or you might buy a non-working machine. There are plenty of > people here who will help you sort out non-workign hardwre, but > ultimately it's you who have to make the measurements and do the repairs. that why I prefer working hardware > > -tony tom [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_computer_remake

13 years, 6 months

Black Hole nearly dead

by gerhard.kreuzer＠liftoff.at

Hi, any body able to get the Friden calculators or some of then and ship it to Europe? I will take the costs, no matter. With best regards Gerhard

13 years, 6 months

Source for marked sense cards ?

by hp-fix＠xs4all.nl

Does somebody knows a source for marked sense cards (the ones you have to mark with a pencil) for my HP 9860Aa Marked Card Reader? A good 1:1 or 2:1 scan would do also, but the actual cards are better. -Rik

13 years, 6 months

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13 years, 6 months

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by india_50＠yahoo.com

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13 years, 6 months

Who can identify the platform, these CDC diagnostic floppies were made/formatted for?

by p.gebhardt＠ymail.com

Hello everybody, I'm holding in my hands four 5,25 inch floppies from CDC, more specificly from their division Magnetic Peripherals. These came with some FSD-drives a couple of years back. Google turned up with not a single hit, when looking for more information about these floppies. They are marked with "1244-00,? souble side, single/double density, soft sector, 35/40 track" regarding their type. That's written on the etiquette: 1. SDI diag. disk PN: 92989602 2. SMD-0/E diag. disk PN: 93290704 3. SMDSTD, SMD-0 PN: 93290703 4. ISI diag. disk, PN: 93845702 ? I'd like to save the contents and maybe use it, as well, but I have no clue for which platform/system they are. Can anybody help me on that? Thanks alot in advance for your help! Pierre ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pierre's collection of classic computers : http://classic-computing.dyndns.org/

13 years, 6 months

Rack storage for RL cartridges?

by IanK＠vulcan.com

Hey folks, On the PDP-8/e we have set up here, we have a rack-mount shelf for RK05 cartridges. Does anyone know if there was ever such a thing for RL cartridges? I have a fair amount of rack space on our 11/70, which is configured with RL01 and RL02 drives, and it would be nice to have some neat place to store them on the exhibit floor. Does it ring any bells for anyone? Thanks! -- Ian

13 years, 6 months

Freebie...

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

ooh ooh gimmee gimmee gimmee ------------------------------ On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 2:21 PM PDT geneb wrote: >I've got a DEC Ethernet loopback plug that I have no use for. > >It's got a 15 pin D shell connector (thick ethernet?) and a green status LED on the opposite end. The part number cast into the dongle is 12-222196-02. > >Anyone that wants it can have it for postage. > >tnx! > >g. > >-- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. >Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > >ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment >A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. >http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

13 years, 6 months

Freebie...

by geneb＠deltasoft.com

I've got a DEC Ethernet loopback plug that I have no use for. It's got a 15 pin D shell connector (thick ethernet?) and a green status LED on the opposite end. The part number cast into the dongle is 12-222196-02. Anyone that wants it can have it for postage. tnx! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

13 years, 6 months

IBM 9663-001

by BHuntsman＠mail2.cu-portland.edu

Hi there! I know there doesn't seem to be a lot of mainframe hobbying happening on this list, but anyone here know anything about the 9663-001 "Snow Leopard" ESCON PCI board? It's based on one of those Artic960's with a pretty big AIB. So far, the most info I can find tends to be about TPF and the EOCF/2 system for managing it. You could also supposedly use it with LANRES and NetWare... Anyway, if anyone has any info, it'd be appreciated! -Ben

13 years, 6 months

new member

by tom_a_sparks＠yahoo.com.au

I have just subscribed to this mailing list a few day ago I am interested in GUI based computers I currently have 3 Amiga computers (A500, A1200, sam440) in my collection here is my wanted list are there any other gui based computers that I should add? ????* RiscOS system ARMini ????* GEOS system (Commodore 64 / Commodore 128) ????* Atari ST ????* Apple IIGS ????* Apple Macintosh (68k/PPC only) System 7.5.5 ????* BBC micro (wrote programs using usborne computer books from the 1980 without the hardware) ????* Altair 8800 / IMSAI 8080 reproduction versions --- tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Ubuntu wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tomsparks 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 Premium Edition, AF 2012 Plus Edition, Sam440 AOS 4.1.2, Roland DXY-1300 pen plotter, Cutok DC330 cutter/pen plotter?

13 years, 6 months

guess the card - Sysgen 4540

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

one 40 pin chip's id is obliterated, the other is an SCN8035A (a uP). Toshiba TMM2016-AP10, 2 roms. Lots of glue. 18.0000 mhz? crystal. A weird squarish gray connector on the bracket. 8 bit ISA.

13 years, 6 months

SAM76 source code, documentation?

by eric＠brouhaha.com

Wikipedia says that SAM76 was rewritten in C and that the source code and documentation were available. Does anyone actually have it? Thanks, Eric

13 years, 6 months

Industrial PDP8... Dazzler

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

So, I imagine I'm not the only one who made an offer on the Dazzler pictured in the Industrial PDP8 lot on ebay. I notice that the picture of the Dazzler has been removed from the lot page, but I didn't get any reply from the seller. I thought I made a pretty good offer, oh well. Anybody on the list get it? Would you mind sharing what you paid? Bill S.

13 years, 6 months

Prototype PCBs?

by brain＠jbrain.com

Anyone know an inexpensive source for prototype DIY circuit boards? From time to time, I like to use them to prove out ideas, and I'm running low on stock. Jim -- Jim Brain brain at jbrain.com www.jbrain.com

13 years, 6 months

someone was looking for a Hayes Pocket Edition Modem 2400

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

e-mail me. I'll check the list to see if you were _that_ person, not an impersonator. When I have the time. No disks, just the item and a couple of small manuals.

13 years, 6 months

VMS grey wall of manuals

by spedraja＠ono.com

No affiliation. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/35-Digital-VMS-System-Management-C-DCL-RMS-manual… Regards SPc.

13 years, 6 months

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