On Tue, 24 Apr 2012, David Griffith wrote: Whoops, I think you probably wanted prototyping PCBs rather than prototype fabbing. Try this: http://www.hobbyengineering.com/SectionCP.html -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

I asked a very in the know Mac person and he still doesn't know if this is for real or not, can anyone comment as to the validity of this unit??? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROTOTYPE-MACINTOSH-128k-COMPUTER-WITH-TWIGGY-5-25-… Curt

On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:17 PM, David Riley wrote: Never mind; there's actually a picture further down the page, I just didn't see it in the gallery. - Dave

I mean... honestly other than this auction I've never seen or heard ANYTHING about a twiggy Mac before.... I would have thought that if anyone, Linzmayer in Apple Confidential or even Isaacson in the Steve Jobs book would've brought it up. The motherboard has some differences on it, most notable he also has an odd keyboard with a pull out tray on it, plus I've never seen the figure in the trenchcoat before as a logo for the product. I'm not an Apple guy obviously, my main thing is Atari, but I do follow Apple, I've owned a Fat Mac with a hyperdrive, a Lisa/2 with a Profile and a Mac IIci, now I own a Macbook... I am Apple System and Laserprinter certified, but I don't follow Apple close enough to know such intimate details as this mysterious machine. I am wondering if Wozniak could shed some light on it. barythrin at gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for tracking down the vcf chats, that's what I was doing also. http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEYOND-RARE-PROTOTYPE-MACINTOSH-128k-APPLE-MAC-5-25… the previous auction. It was odd since it had 1 bid for a while and claims it was sold but from what I recall had 0 bids in the end. Plenty of pictures though, ideally it's probably just a relisting like ebay is implying. Seller even lowered the shipping to only $400 this time.

On 9/17/12 12:59 PM, Curt @ Atari Museum wrote: Twiggy macs are real. I had one. Stanford Special Collections has it now from the Apple Library donation. I'm skeptical that this one has the right ROMs, since the boot screen shows a Sony floppy. You also can't tell if the floppy icon on the back of the case is for a Sony or Twiggy floppy or if the back is textured (the front is not). This was discussed the last time it was listed on eBay.

On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, Dave McGuire wrote: Not credible until it's on Wikipedia!

On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, jim s wrote: No, no, no. It has have been discussed in its own book (a couple of pages or a chapter isn't good enough) before it is considered "notable" enough to be covered on Wikipedia. (Yes, this is the view some of the newer "trolls" are trying to push, especially within computing/software, and it is /highly/ disruptive.) The only way to fix this though is for large numbers of people to become involved and push for change to the system.

________________________________ From: "Curt @ Atari Museum" <curt at atarimuseum.com> I asked a very in the know Mac person and he still doesn't know if this is for real or not, can anyone comment as to the validity of this unit??? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROTOTYPE-MACINTOSH-128k-COMPUTER-WITH-TWIGGY-5-25-… C: Looks like you're going to have to buy it to find out what's in it. ?There are some oldies on Lisalist. I would think someone would be able to confirm or deny it's validity.

Thanks for the extra insight Brad... Brad Parker wrote:

I uploaded one to Wikipedia. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cromemco_Z2_Ad_July_1977.jpg I also have this as a 300 dpi tiff. Michael Holley -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Curt @ Atari Museum Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:41 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: 300dpi scan of a Cromemco Z2 ad? Can anyone help out with this please?