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by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Has anyone got a pen for the Dauphin DTR-1 they are willing to sell? Please reply to me directly if you do. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

13 years, 4 months

Paying work: Read a 9-track VAX tape in So. Cal.

by elson＠pico-systems.com

Not in CA at all, but I have a working CDC Keystone drive and an interface to a PC. I recently hacked up a program to read any 1600 (PE) or 6250 (GCR) tape to a binary file. There is a c program that will then read VMS Backup tapes, and I have it running here and have read in a couple of my old backups. I can also unpack some standard tape formats such as ANSI-D. I'd be willing to try this. But, I have had problems with old tapes that have been stored in bad conditions like attics or something. The oxide just peels off the tape like it was a Scotch tape or something, making a horrible sound. I'm in the St. Louis, MO area. Jon

13 years, 4 months

10K ECL

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> > From: Pat Fitzpatrick <pjfitzpatrick207 at gmail.com> > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:15:54 -0600 > Subject: 10K ECL > Hi Folks, > > As part of my ongoing attempt to de-clutter my life, I am purging my > antique IC collection. I have a whole pile of 10K ECL chips left over from > a project a number of years back and am wondering if anyone has any use for > such. If so, let me know and I'll make a list. I KNOW I'll never use them > again. > > Thanks, > Pat > Depending on the part numbers, the Living Computer Museum might be able use some to keep their KL10 systems running. -- Michael Thompson

13 years, 4 months

Paying work: Read a 9-track VAX tape in So. Cal.

by cclist＠sydex.com

I have a customer in southern California who needs a 9-track tape from a VAX read and transcribed to something readable by modern equipment. I could do it, but it's not worth the hassle for a single tape for me. Anyone in the area want to give it a try? This is a paying job, not charity. If so, contact me with your details and I'll put you in touch. --Chuck

13 years, 4 months

Don Maslin's archive...

by geneb＠deltasoft.com

The whole file is now available at: http://www.retroarchive.org/maslin/maslin_archive.zip When time allows I'll break the disk and ROM image collections down by vendor and get new pages created for them. Many thanks to Al for recovering this! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

13 years, 4 months

VCF Archive Fund Raiser Sale (Follow Up)

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Folks, Forgive me, I do not follow the CC list so I didn't realize some comments and questions had arisen from my recent announcement of a fund raiser sale. First, as some bright fellows have already made clear, this is simply an offer to sell certain select items from what I have referred to as the "VCF Archives" unofficially since about the beginning (of the VCF). I am offering only duplicate machines for which I don't have an obvious need and that would be better off in someone else's hands in exchange for funds to secure the rest of the collection. There are only so many Altairs, Sol-20s and Cromemcos that a collection needs. As to the circumstances that have brought me to this point, that telling will have to wait for another day. It's a long story that would explain why I have been hibernating from the VCF for several years now (something I didn't initially intend to do but that became necessary over time). Most people wouldn't be prepared for it anyway, as it represents a departure from the person I was in this community for so long. Note, I did not say I am departing the community (not that I haven't had only a peripheral participation for the last several years) but that the person you all once knew has moved on. My interest in vintage computers remains, but it is an interest that has necessarily had to be put on the back burner while the universe imposes its will on me and I faithfully abide. This current operation is a winding down of Phase I of a life's work that will resume at the proper temporal markers. I will address some comments made in the original thread that are deserving of an answer. I invented the Vintage Computer Festival as a result of a discussion that I initiated on this list in the spring of 1997. Since then it has sprouted several sister events, including VCF East (presently the largest VCF event), VCF Midwest, VCF Southwest, VCF Southeast (just formed, produced by David Greelish of Historically Brewed fame), VCF Europa (Munich), and VCF UK. All of these events (except for the European events, which operate autonomously) can be accessed through the VCF portal (http://vintage.org) (historical note: remember when everyone was trying to create a "portal" to the internet in the early days? :) The main VCF held 10 regular events from 1997-2007 (skipping 2001, where the event was scheduled the week of 9/11). At the peak of the series we had about 600 attendees, and attendance for the last 3 shows was in excess of 500 visitors each. Ten is a good number. It is completion, and a new beginning. I had intended to take a hiatus from the VCF for a year. I was talked out of it on the condition that those who did the talking would be around the following year to contribute to the production of the event, as I no longer was willing to carry the full load of producing it (which is a failure of mine to properly delegate). No serious effort was mounted, as this was 2008, a financial collapse was imminent, and I had my hands full with other matters. I took my hiatus as intended. One year turned into 2, then 3, and now 5. The VCF is not done, but I believe I just may be with it, at least for now, other than a cursory hand in maintaining the website to support the sister events, and the main event, in the event someone finally comes forward to pick up and run with it. Quite frankly I became bored with the format. Don't get me wrong, the VCF is still a fun event no matter which one you attend, because it's all about old computers and old friends, and whenever those two combine then Good Times are had. But I wanted to do something fresh, something new, something absolutely mind-blowing. I was hoping to startup again in 2011, but it was not to be. Now, I'm looking to pass on the mantle to some sucker^H^H^H^H^H^Hambitious devotee who doesn't mind losing up to 3 months out of their life every year to continue producing the event. To clear up some misconceptions about the "Vintage Computer Festival" as an entity: - the VCF is not a corporate non-profit entity; - the VCF has never been a corporate non-profit entity; - I once considered attaining corporate "non profit" status for the VCF but instinctively decided against it, a decision that has proven its wisdom over time; - the VCF will likely never be a corporate non-profit entity; - if you consider the finances (revenue/expenses) of the VCF event in total, it probably did run as a "not for profit" all those years; it can be a profitable event, but it cetainly wasn't for the first 4 years; - while the "VCF Archives" is the unofficial name for my collection, it is in fact my personal collection, in the same way that the VCF is my event; it is all just my property that I offer to others for use through the VCF events and private arrangements; the fact is the collection has always been open to hobbyists at little or no charge throughout the years, and I have done well renting my services and pieces from the collection to various commercial interests over the past dozen years, including law firms and film production companies; - any improprieties suggested as a result of any of this are ignorant speculation. I believe that covers everything. Thanks to all those who have responded to my initial inquiry. Forgive me for not responding until today but I will be addressing each inquiry this morning. New inquiries are still welcome. I will also be posting specific items for sale to the list (I don't use eBay) and will eventually be relaunching the Vintage Computer Marketplace to conduct regular auctions of both my and others' vintage computer items. Lastly, I am not soliciting donations, but if someone feels compelled then I will not refuse it right now. I would consider any amount to be a blessing. Please contact me privately. I will follow this thread in case any further response is required. As always, I can be reached directly through private e-mail. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

13 years, 4 months

Small joke

by lproven＠gmail.com

On 10 December 2012 16:16, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > At 3:18 PM +0000 12/10/12, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> Happy DEC-10! >> >> (Bemused? Check the date...) > > Where is the joke? It's DEC-10 Day! That's not a joke! 36-bits Forever! :?) -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884

13 years, 4 months

Piecing together an HP9880 (Tony Duell)

by colineby＠isallthat.com

Spot on. The video in question is part of a bulk donation from an HP training centre. Its one of approximately 150 such titles in the TNMOC archive. They were distributed on U-matic and later VHS. Nearly all, even our UK-based set, are NTSC encoded. We have a little side project to dub them down to digital as a good 50% or more of this stock suffer from sticky tape syndrome. Even with periodic baking, the material is under threat of decay. I should note here, the TNMOC material was not donated with broadcast rights attached, but simply as a research resource. We don't have blanket coverage to YouTube the lot at present. All access will therefore have to treated as a normal research request. I'll happily relay all research requests back to the museum, though, and facilitate. Meanwhile, if any of you have the right contacts with HP to provide blanket YouTube publication rights please put them onto me and I'll try and get something sorted with our trustees. --Colin Steve Lafferty <steve at tronola.com> wrote: >At 05:53 PM 12/10/2012, you wrote: >>> I find that last statement farily hard ot beleive. The HP9880 awas >>> introduced in 1974, video tape recording, while possible, was not common >>> then. Are we talking about the same machine? > >--- HP had an early and innovative television operation. They used it to offer an extensive library of training programs to customers, as well as their own personnel. If I recall correctly, it helped communicate the "HP Way" to their far-flung divisions, around the World. In the 1972 catalog, they already had a whole library of video tape training programs. A photo there shows what looks like a Sony 1/2" reel-to-reel video recorder, like the ones which I remember seeing in my college days. Of course, the original Hewlett Packard company was very different from the modern day HP computer company. Much of the original operation was spun off as Agilent Technologies in 1999. No doubt, that is where the ghosts of Bill and Dave prefer to hang out, these days :) > >Sorry to go on about this side-topic but their innovative commitment to television content production is one of the (many) things which always struck me as making HP special. > >Steve L. > >

13 years, 4 months

eBay Symbolics 3640

by glen.slick＠gmail.com

No connection with this listing. Looks like an interesting item. Symbolics 3640 Artificial Intelligence Work Station Complete and Functional http://www.ebay.com/itm/221152106364 End time: Nov 17, 2012 7:03:55 PM

13 years, 4 months

New documents on manx rss feed

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://manx.classiccmp.org/rss.php> FYI -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

13 years, 4 months

Ersatz-11 V6.1

by wilson＠dbit.com

After a long delay (it's hard to make big release-worthy improvements after 19 years of development), Ersatz-11 V6.1 is done. The free demo/hobby version is at: http://www.dbit.com/demo.html This release's additions are mostly about weird LSI-11-based microcomputers: - Terak 8510/a. This is a desktop machine with a standard LSI-11 CPU card and non-standard everything else. The highlight is the 320x240 graphics display. Runs RT-11/85 and UCSD p-System. Works in the DOS, Win32, OS/2, and stand-alone versions of E11, but not Linux (due to linker problems). Probably has plenty of rough edges since I've never even seen a Terak machine in real life. For one thing it only works with QX:-bootable disks (no QB: FDC emulation yet). - DEC PDT-11/130. LSI-11 chipset in a busless machine built into a modified VT100, with two TU58 tape units below the monitor. Runs RT11 SJ or FB, with more free memory than other MMU-less machines since it has a reduced I/O page (so 60 KB of main memory instead of 56 KB), and the guts of the TU58 driver are in ROM. DEC's PD.SYS driver is very small since it's just a shim. A reimplementation of the ROM code is supplied (since the original is copyrighted by DEC). - DEC PDT-11/150. As above but in a big desktop cube with two RX01s for storage. Again, comes with replacement ROM code to make PD.SYS work. The manual has an appendix that shows how to write "E11.INI" config files for all three of these micros. There's also a new built-in text editor; see the EDIT command in the manual. This was kind of an insane amount of work for just one new page of documentation! You already know how to use it (press PF2 for the keypad help screen if there isn't already a hardcopy scotch-taped to your monitor). It's mainly for editing your E11.INI w/o having to leave the emulation (or boot an OS in stand-alone E11), but it's an adequate basic text editor (it's a VT100ified 32-bit port of the DOS editor I've used for everything since 1983, including writing E11 itself). Another new feature that's just a rough cut is that the SET THROTTLE DELAY=d INTERVAL=i command can now take FILE=foo[.TIM] instead of DELAY=d. This way you can feed it a file (e.g. foo.tim) which contains 65536 little-endian 32-bit longwords, each of which is the average execution time of the corresponding PDP-11 opcode in nanoseconds. So now instead of adding a fixed d-microsecond delay every i instructions, E11 maintains a running total of execution time, and every i instructions it checks the actual current time and delays as needed to match. There's a lot of overhead in banging on the timer chip so often though, so for now the execution speed comes out slower than it should. The main fetch/dispatch loop is recompiled at runtime when the SET THROTTLE command is issued, so at least the overhead from this code vanishes when it's not enabled. Other new stuff: ASSIGN xxx /MAC:aa-bb-cc-dd-ee-ff works for *all* Ethernet devices (was just UDP:) so you can override the real port's default MAC address. And there's a new keyscript command that should have been there eons ago: "LASTSIMILARYEARBEFORE 2000" (you can use other years but why would you?) converts the current year captured by GETTIME to the last one before 2000 that had all the same days of the week, so you can kludge your way around non-Y2K-compliant PDP-11 OSes (this is for entering the current time/date with one keystroke at boot time if that's not obvious). John Wilson D Bit

13 years, 4 months

Cray Superserver 6400 FS spotted on VC Forum

by cclist＠sydex.com

http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?34695-Vintage-Cray-S… If anyone's interested. --Chuck

13 years, 4 months

10K ECL

by pjfitzpatrick207＠gmail.com

Hi Folks, As part of my ongoing attempt to de-clutter my life, I am purging my antique IC collection. I have a whole pile of 10K ECL chips left over from a project a number of years back and am wondering if anyone has any use for such. If so, let me know and I'll make a list. I KNOW I'll never use them again. Thanks, Pat

13 years, 4 months

OT: how I outfitted my HP 16700A Logic Analyzer

by keithvz＠verizon.net

I wanted to buy an equipment cart to house the huge HP 16700A logic analyzer I bought, and I couldn't find one that would suit my needs. So I built it: http://www.techtravels.org/new_la_cart.jpg Specs were roughly * 2x2 solid wood Poplar frame construction * (3) 2'x2' shelves * Birch-Veneered 3/4" plywood * 2" casters * Monitor on left is floating above the top project area on flexible arm * anti-static mat * Surge protector for connecting equipment * sliding keyboard shelf * Ergonomically designed heights for keyboard/monitor It's far from perfect and weighs a ton, but it's pretty solid and I'm happy with it. Thought I'd share..... Thanks, Keith

13 years, 4 months

cctech Digest, Vol 112, Issue 11

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> > From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> > Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:21:43 -0800 > Subject: Re: ibm mag card 2 > On 12/08/2012 10:59 PM, Adrian Stoness wrote: > >> got this thing kicking around picked it up in the spring for 20 bucks >> http://farm8.staticflickr.com/**7250/7547228432_e981da5a28_b.**jpg<http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7250/7547228432_e981da5a28_b.jpg> >> >> curious if theres a way to hook it up? >> > > It looks to be from an IBM MC Selectric: > > http://ibmcomposer.org/joomla/**index.php?option=com_content&** > view=article&id=50&Itemid=65<http://ibmcomposer.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=…> > > I'll bet that the folks who run the Golfball typewriter group on Yahoo! > probably have a manual for it. > > --Chuck > The Rhode Island Computer Museum has Mag Card Selectric Composer. http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/Home/super-computers/small-systems-at-ricm/… -- Michael Thompson

13 years, 4 months

Piecing together an HP9880 (Tony Duell)

by steve＠tronola.com

At 05:53 PM 12/10/2012, you wrote: >> I find that last statement farily hard ot beleive. The HP9880 awas >> introduced in 1974, video tape recording, while possible, was not common >> then. Are we talking about the same machine? --- HP had an early and innovative television operation. They used it to offer an extensive library of training programs to customers, as well as their own personnel. If I recall correctly, it helped communicate the "HP Way" to their far-flung divisions, around the World. In the 1972 catalog, they already had a whole library of video tape training programs. A photo there shows what looks like a Sony 1/2" reel-to-reel video recorder, like the ones which I remember seeing in my college days. Of course, the original Hewlett Packard company was very different from the modern day HP computer company. Much of the original operation was spun off as Agilent Technologies in 1999. No doubt, that is where the ghosts of Bill and Dave prefer to hang out, these days :) Sorry to go on about this side-topic but their innovative commitment to television content production is one of the (many) things which always struck me as making HP special. Steve L.

13 years, 4 months

ibm mag card 2

by dm561＠torfree.net

-------------- Original Message: Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 00:59:51 -0600 From: Adrian Stoness <tdk.knight at gmail.com> > got this thing kicking around picked it up in the spring for 20 bucks http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7250/7547228432_e981da5a28_b.jpg > curious if theres a way to hook it up? -------------- Reply: I've still got a couple of those drives from a Redactron WP, a dual-drive version of IBM's MC/ST; have never tried to do anything with them and certainly don't know anything about the IBM interface or protocol, but the drive itself is kind of like a floppy, only linear. The usual read/write heads, a solenoid (12V IIRC) to step from track to track, and a motor drive to actually move the card in and out to read/write it. Should make an interesting project; you could even put in some photocells and turn it into a punched or mark sense card reader... m

13 years, 4 months

Scanning sheet film

by tdk.knight＠gmail.com

interesting indeed i'm guna have to look into this On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > At 5:24 PM -0500 12/10/12, steve shumaker wrote: > >> On 12/10/2012 3:24 AM, Joost van de Griek wrote: >> >>> Sorry, Youtube's mobile site gave me a convoluted link on the iPhone, my >>> manual cleanup must've mangled it. I meant this: >>> >>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=svdsXGqjWEg<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svdsXGqjWEg> >>> > >>> >>> Point is, I wet scan directly on the flatbed, no (flimsy) film holders. >>> Excellent results. Not drum-scanning level results, but good enough for >>> home scanning. >>> >>> There is some experimentation involved with getting the best focus. >>> Flipping the film and adding or subtracting mylar sheets until the image >>> plane is in near-perfect focus. >>> >>> .tsooJ >>> >>> cool! Now I see what you meant. >> >> steve >> > > That is pretty cool, while I'm familiar with wet scanning, I've not heard > of adjusting the focus via mylar sheets. > > > Zane > > > > -- > | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | > | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | > | | Photographer | > +-----------------------------**-----+------------------------**----+ > | My flickr Photostream | > | http://www.flickr.com/photos/**33848088 at N03/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/> | > | My Photography Website | > | http://www.zanesphotography.**com<http://www.zanesphotography.com> | > >

13 years, 4 months

Don Maslin's archive...

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > Thank you for all your effort in this! Honestly this is an area I'm not > that interested in, BUT, I really wanted to see Don's work preserved. Years > ago, he helped me with info for my IMSAI-8080, which I always appreciated. Agreed. Don helped me with my Kaypro when I first got it. Very happy to see all of his work preserved. Having inspected the zip file, what are the .lbl files? I thought they might be disk labels, but the first one I looked at was a single line of digits, repeating in fistfuls. Is it metadata for the .td0 file? -ethan

13 years, 4 months

More DEC keyboards

by kurt.m.nowak＠gmail.com

All - I have 3 more DEC keyboards available: 1) DEC LK401-AA with a hairline cracked bezel - probably easily glued 2) DEC LK401-AA with "gooified" feet 3) DEC LK201 No keys are missing and they seem mechanically sound, but they are a little dirty. I have no means of testing them, sorry. Asking $10 (plus shipping) for box/gas/driving hassle. Higher offers will jump to the front of the line. Take 1 or 2 or all three... I just want to get rid of them.

13 years, 4 months

MTST Was: ibm mag card 2

by fjkraan＠xs4all.nl

On 2012-12-10 08:21, Fred Cisin wrote: > It was usually called "MTST", pronounced "empty ST", which Raymond Scott once made a futuristic radio commercial for the MTST. While listening you never got the impression it was about a word processor. Only that it was a great solution. "Machines should work, People should think." Fred Jan

13 years, 4 months

Small joke

by lproven＠gmail.com

Happy DEC-10! (Bemused? Check the date...) -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884

13 years, 4 months

Data General AV4300

by HDevogelaere＠toshibatec-eu.be

Does somebody have a Data General AV4300 (G70421-7)? I have one, still running, and I would like to make a clone, in case this one fails. Hendrik Devogelaere NOTICE: This mail is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. You must not copy, distribute, or take action in reliance upon it. Whilst all efforts are made to safeguard e-mails, TOSHIBA TEC Europe Retail Information Systems S.A. cannot guarantee that attachments are virus free or compatible with your systems and does not accept liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced. TOSHIBA TEC Europe Retail Information Systems S.A. reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its internal and external networks.

13 years, 4 months

XXDP AND E11 HELP NEEDED.

by g-wright＠att.net

I'm trying to make up some TU-58 images with the needed XXDP files. I'm new to both, so be kind. I would think that i need to do the basic assign and mount with e11 for the TU-58 assign TT1: DDA Mount DDA0: 'file name'.dsk E11 comes back with can't open file. It will let me just mount it with out a file. but if I'm going to write to it, I would guess there needs to be a container file. Thanks, Jerry

13 years, 4 months

In the market for hard disk drive for a PDP-8/m

by steve＠tronola.com

Hi Paul, Thanks so much for the reply. I'm very interested. Will be in touch off-list. Hope that you will be feeling better soon. Steve steve at tronola.com http://www.tronola.com/ >From: Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com> >Hi Steve, > >I have all 3 items here, but I'm on the mend. I'll see if i can talk >my son into finding them. I also have a plessey controller for the >rk05, but can't remember it it's omni-bus or unibus (or both). Ship >from 61853, Illinois. > >Thanks, Paul > >On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Steve Lafferty <steve at tronola.com> wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> I have been making good progress restoring a PDP-8/m and would like to buy a vintage hard drive and controller for it. Anyone know where I might find those? An RK05 or Diablo-31 drive would be nice. Will also need an RK8E controller board set...Please let me know if you know of any possibilities. >> >> Thanks, Steve

13 years, 4 months

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