Well, it's been about a 3 year hiatus from the list for me...
How many of the old farts & curmudgeons are still around? ;)
One burning question, has the list's definition of a classic
computer been updated from the 10 year rule?
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Anthrax, "Caught in a mosh"
I can't wait to find my 1000 year old or perhaps my great-great-great...at grandkids will finally be able to access my password protected zip file.
Maybe this is an investment call to collectors who get called upon to recover media?
I found the Virtual Library today, vlib.org.
MANY interesting sites, check it out!
Cindy Croxton
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Relocating, and looking for your recommendations to feed the electronics/computer/ham habit.
I'm thinking there must be a ton of aerospace junk for sale, or perhaps today its sadly shredded.
Whats out there on the West Coast in the LA area?
Randy
KF7CJW
I may buy one in 1000 years if it proved to last that long.
Reads a lot like a life time guarantee scam though. After the main batch of sales the company pays out employees then declares bankruptcy and you have your 1 year lifetime guarantee till they come out with a separate second company with the same name with a 2 and do it all over again. Its clever.
At 05:34 PM 3/21/2013, you wrote:
> > Back when I was a kid, there was a brand of tool - I think it was the
>
>That would be Craftsman. They still honor that guarantee, even for new
>tools. Power tools are not covered this way, however.
Ah, but the great thing about Sears power tools
is that you can still get parts for them. I still
use the router I got from my dad. He got it in
the 60's -- and it was a rebuild then. About 5
years ago, I needed to replace the bearings and
thought I'd replace the collet while I was at it.
I went online, found the manual with a parts
diagram, ordered the parts, and got myself a like-new router out of it.
767 . [Truth] Whoever undertakes to set himself
up as judge in the field of truth and knowledge
is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods. --Albert Einstein
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Does anyone have information on how to get initial sale date for old
Hewlett Packard computers? The current system that HP has doesn?t cover
old computers from the early 1990s. I am trying to find date of sale for
the systems below, and if possible, the country in which they were
originally registered:
? Hewlett Packard Series 9000 712/60 (Model Number A4024A), Base
Model Number A2615A, Serial Number: 6420A50415
? Hewlett Packard Series 9000 712/60 (Model Number A2854A), Base
Model Number A2615A, Serial Number: 6406A50027
? Hewlett Packard Series 9000 712/60 (Model Number A4023A), Base
Model Number A2615A, Serial Number: 6428A50358
? Hewlett Packard Series 9000 A2051-66521 HP 9000 E35 64Mhz CPU,
Serial Number: 40110293VF
Is there a database for old HP computers that someone can direct me to find
out information on these?
Thanks!
I just picked up an RK05AA drive, unknown condition but it appears in good shape internally. As I was going through a detailed inspection, I touched the foam that surrounds the air duct that connects to the access door on the cartridge, delivering clean air. The foam flaked off and seems to be deteriorating. Not as badly as the foam used in Selectric typewriters, which has turned to sludge after a few decades, but not something I want releasing particles into an air stream that will flow under the heads.
Is this a known issue with the drives? What do people who restore/repair these do to eliminate this source of contamination into the cartridge? I would like to address this before I install a new absolute filter.
Any tips for a substitute for the CE pack when I get to the point of loading heads and adjusting the drive?
Carl
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More housecleaning :)
7-part "Build a Microcomputer" looseleaf application note series from
AMD 1978, based on their 2900 series devices. Chapters are:
Computer Architecture, Microprogrammed Design, The Data Path I & II,
Program Control Unit, Interrupt, Direct Memory Access.
$5 plus Media Mail shipping from 65775.
"OS/2 Complete: A practical guide to the OS/2 operating system"
version 2.1 by Peter Franken, 1992.
$3 plus shipping.
thanks
Charles
FS: Microsoft MS-DOS 5.0 "User's Guide and Reference", $5 plus Media
Mail shipping from 65775;
Borland "Turbo Pascal for Windows User's Guide". $3 plus shipping.
Also "Microsoft Windows Graphical Environment User's Guide" Version
3.0 from the Z-Nix Company, $2 plus shipping.
thanks
Charles
The RICM has their PDP-9 processor and core working nicely now, except
for the DAC and DZM instructions. Once we get the processor and paper
tape reader/punch restoration completed the next task will be
connecting the TC59 tape controller and the TU20 tape drive. Bitsavers
has the TC59 manuals. I bought an HP 7975A maintenance manual for the
TU20 tape transport that is now scanned and on Bitsavers. We don't
have any documentation for the rack of electronics in the bottom of
the TU20 that connects the 7975A to the TC59.
Does anyone have DEC TU20 documentation?
Where could we find two BC09A cables to connect the TC59 to the PDP-9 processor?
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On 03/21/2013 03:19 PM, Bill Sudbrink wrote:
>>>> I've got this WONDERFUL
>>>> *****RARE*****
>>>> **** SUPER CLASSIC ***** @@@@ LOOOK @@@@******MUST SEEEEEEE******
>>>> ****////ORIGINAL DELL/////******
>>>> 2.8GHZ *SCREAMER FOR ITS TIME* PENTIUM *4* (NOT MANY LEFT!!!!!)
>>>>
>>>> **** TWO GIGS OF RAM**** SMALL IN OUR TIME, BUT HUGE, HUGE
>> ABSOLUTELY
>>>> HUGE
>>>> FOR A WORKSTATION OF THAT PERIOD.
>>>>
>>>> FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY FOR SALE ON THE MARKET~!!!!!! ORIGINAL LIST
>> PRICE
>>>> $1,400 YOURS NOW FOR A LIMITED TIME BID STARTING AT $10,000
>>>>
>>>> GOOD LUCK AND HAPPY BIDDING!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I died a little inside typing that out.
>>>>
>>> If it's any consolation, I died a little bit reading it.
>>
>> ROFL!!
>
> Dave McGuire, man of action, laughs in the face of death.
"Sport death: Only life can kill you."
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Hello everybody,
there are eight grey VMS documentation binders to give away which are duplicates in my collection:
-Volume 2a and 2b: Introduction to VMS, Guide to Using VMS, Guide to VMS Files and Devices, Mail Utility, Phone Utility, Sort/Merge Utility (VMS version 5.0)
- Release Notes: Volume 2: Release Notes (VMs version 5.4)
- General User: volume 1: General Information: Master Index, General User Master Index, Glossary (VMS version 5.0)
- General User: Volume 3: Using DCL: DCL Concepts, Guide to Using Command Procedures (VMS version 5.0)
- General User: volume 4: DCL Dictionary (VMS version 5.0)
- General User : volume 5A:Processing Text: Guide to Text Processing, EDT Reference (VMS version 5.0)
- General User : volume 5C: Processing Text: DIGITAL standard Runoff, EVE Reference (VMS version 5.0)
- Programming: Volume 8: Device Support: Device Support Manual(VMS version 5.0)
First come, first serve, I give them away for free whoever is interested in them.
You only have to take care of the shipping costs. Documents are located in Germany near the belgian and dutch boarder.
Kind regards,
Pierre
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Pierre's collection of classic computers : http://classic-computing.dyndns.org/
I have the Analog Devices, Inc., "Data Converter Reference Manual", Volumes
I & II, 1992 edition. These are big and heavy (3 pounds apiece). I am no
longer interested in keeping these manuals around. I will be willing to
send these to anyone who is willing to pay for the shipping (via Media
Mail). It looks like the cost will be a little over $5, so the first person
with $5 who wants these manuals can get them. Thanks and I'll be checking
this list to see who, if anyone, is interested.
Bill Machacek
Colo. Springs, CO
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>>??Perhaps not close to 1000 years, but certainly across a lifetime spam--I
>
> In 1000 years, well past our lifetime, will there BE anything besides
> "spam"
>
>>??would think that these would be handy for preserving family photos,
>>??particularly of important events such as weddings.
>
> Other than archeologists, in 1000 years, who is going to WANT our data?
there are a few known facts:
* every generation well want to relive their childhood
* military/corporate project become cheaper and enter the consumer market[1]
* new data mining methods are discovered
* old information has value but is lost/miss-placed/destroyed before the true value is discovered (wiping)
[1] 3D printers, Remote control vehicle, computers, etc
tom
Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> writes:
>
>Apparently I did, but the URL - www.ncd-x.com/doc/TerminalUsersGuide.pdf -
>made me think it was the original company.
Nice they put the manuals up, but sure would be nifty if they put the last
software for the traditional X terminals (e.g. HMX) up. As far as I know
(and I haven't burned many cycles checking) that all died long before NCD
did.
Probably shouldn't have tossed my (pre-HMX) NCD with X in (many) PROMs, but
it was mono X11R2/3-ish and not much past xterm/Xaw worked that well, post
year 2000.
Hi, All,
A friend of mine who repairs and recertifies equipment occasionally
runs across interesting hardware. He has an NCD ThinStar 300 WinCE
thin client box that he was planning on scrapping (for the PSU, the
metal, the PCB, the CPU, etc) but I thought I'd ask if anyone has
enough interest to offer something for it to cover shipping and the
time to pack and ship it. I'm told it works.
Internally, it's some flavor of Pentium with a passive heat sink, a
couple of PC-100 SDRAM DIMMs, a Crystal Sound audio chip, and some
flavor of Ethernet. I found a manual on the NCD site with little
effort.
Anyone interested? Make an offer and I'll pass it along. It doesn't
have to be an outrageous offer, just enough to make it worth the time
to not strip it for the PSU and a small amount of electronic recycling
value.
-ethan
Dug up a copy of Solaris 2.5.1 Sparc Desktop while sorting out my
stuff...All the manuals and disks all seem to be in the box...I know its
a bit useless and dated considering other better OS alternatives for
older Sparcs. Does anybody want this? I'll just send it in a USPS flat
rate box. Contact me off the list if interested. I am in the San Diego
area, 91942.
-Kurt
Thought I'd share this, just so it at least gets archived for posterity...
Idug out my Otrona Attaches this week and decided to try and fix
the16-bit (aka "almost PC-compatible") board in one of them. The
symptom was that the board would run correctly for maybe 90 seconds
before it would crash.
The built in diagnostics (for ROM rev. H) can test the RAM on the 16-bit
board (using the "[" command from the monitor), and doing so revealed
that the RAM test would pass for a little while and then start failing,
indicating "U66" as the fault.According to the service manual this
indicates the actual faulty chip on the board. Not so! Replacing U66
had no effect.
I then got out my Fluke 9010 w/8086 pod (I'm just dying for excuses to
play with this thing...) and had ittest the RAM (the 16-bit board
contains 256K). RAM from word 0x20000 to 0x3FFFF was fine, but the lower
half of RAM started showing bit 0x4000 stuck after warm up -- looking at
the Otrona schematic (http://oldcomputers.net/Attache_Schematics.pdf)
this would point to chip U61 (which services bit 14 for the lower half
of memory), not U66(which is bit 14 for the upper half).
So: Moral of the story is the Attache's attempt at being helpful is
simply misleading, alas.Hopefully this helps someone else someday :).
- Josh
Anyone know a good rs232-based programmer?
I have a willem (great unit, use it all the time, hate the switches),
and a Gq-4X USB unit (nice unit, no switches, A14 is a bit weak and
won't program my ROM-3l 23128 devices).
But, I was considering setting up a small set of scripts on a UNIX/linux
box here that could program items via a menu, and thought a serial (or
usb serial) would be easiest to script.
I could grab an older unit (though I didn't turn up promising links in
half hour os searches tonight), but I'd prefer it support at49F series
FLASH.
Jim
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OK, so I dug the Kaypro II back out of storage now that I have some
usable floppy disks, thanks to a good friend. :)
Anyway, I found out that the current A: drive wasn't being detected in
the BIOS on my disk creation machine. B: disk works fine. Checked all
connections and made sure everything was seated properly, and still no
luck. So I pulled both drives and inspected everything and then just
swapped positions and re-installed them, hoping that the different
positions on the cable was what selects which drive is which. Well, not
so. The machine still tries to select the original A: drive. Is there a
jumper setting on these old full bay 5 1/4 floppies to select the drive
ID? Any ideas?
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