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by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

i traded my brother a ncr mca box for something called a grid compass ][ 1129. it's a quite large laptop with what seems to be in a metal <!> case and a 3.5x5 inch screen. it also has an access door with 4 roms installed; gridrom 3.1.5 write/term/format, gridrom 3.1.0 grid-os system, gridmail 103.2.2 and gridos utility rom, 3.1.0 the machine works, but only from ac power. it also has a screen saver with bouncing balls! =D my brother says he got it from a guy who worked in the aerospace industry who said this machine was supposedly used to compute some kind of vectors or something or other for the space shuttle program back in the 80's although i have no way of quantifying that. on the back of the machine there is a proprietary serial connector and phone jacks and something called a GPIB port; can anyone say what that is? i'm still trying to figure out the preloaded apps, but i've stumbled upon a passwoid option which i may have to hack through. i welcome any info or opinions on this beast. it's esoteric enough to keep in my collection. david

28 years, 8 months

PDP-11/10 console (was: DEC keys and consoles)

by ard＠siva.bris.ac.uk

>There is what appears to be an RC clock composed of a 4.7 nF capacitor and >a multi-turn trimmer potentiometer in the upper left corner of the M7260 >data path board in my 11/10. It looks like this clock feeds a 74197 >counter, which has a 5-position rotary switch connected (presumably for >selecting what the incoming clock is divided by). I'll put a scope on pin >40 of the UART after I power the machine up to see what effect the rotary >switch has on the UART clock. It seems likely that the rotary switch is >used for making large changes in the baud rate and the trimmer is used for >tweaking. If that's the board I think it is, it's an 11/10S. The preset was adjusted at the factory, and you could set most standard baud rates using the switch. It can't hurt to measure the frequency, of course. I can check the printset next weekend for you if you can't figure it out. > >-- >Scott Ware s-ware(a)nwu.edu -tony

28 years, 8 months

Classic Computer Rescue - A Story

by jeffh＠unix.aardvarkol.com

On 05-Aug-97, Allison J Parent wrote: >odd sounding box. The BA23 is a 6"x19"x29" chassis out of the plastic dress >case. The BA123 is about double the width but the layout is very different. >The backplane is fixed in a main chassin and has a door over it and dress >covers. Sounds like a either a bs23 or BA213 skunk box. Most ba23s only >have one hard drive and either RX50 or TK50/70 tape. This one is in a plastic case mounted on a pedestal..the cases outside dimensions are: 6"W x 28-1/4" L x 24" H. The dimensions of the internal chasis alone are approximately: 5"W x 24" L x 17-1/2" H. It certainly doesn't sound wide enough to be a BA123, which threw me off at first when Tim suggested that's what it was. It doesn't seem to match the dimensions of the BA23 though either, especially since it has two slide-mounted hard disks in it, though it lacks a tape drive or any other type of removable media. >FYI the BA23 (Ihave one) slides into a plastic pedestal case from the back. >or the metal box can have rack mount ears. This one also alows the whole chasis to slide in and out of the pedestal case...and it looks like it'd allow it to do it just as easily from the front as it would the rear. >The 6x6 card? got me. A KA630a is quad width double height (8.5x11). Well my guaging of dimensions by eye leaves much to be desired..which is why I took a seamstress tape to the case for the above dimensions! >If the OS is ultrix yes, VMS no. If the case is BA23 drve ready switches >should be off before turning on and off before turning off. I'd say don't >power it till you have a terminal anyhow as VAXen look for a console >terminal or they don't finish power diags or boot! It also queries the >terminal for what It is, the altos unless a vt100 clone will nto give the >right response (no biggie but there is some console editing that will not >happen then). I'll keep an eye out for a VT-100 or such then....it doesnt look likely I'll find a keyboard for the Altos anyhow. I think I've seen VT-100's for about $50 on the newsgroups. Jeff -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amiga enthusiast and collector of early, classic microcomputers http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

28 years, 8 months

Machine dates

by hans1＠filan00.grenoble.hp.com

Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org> wrote: >> There are over 800 machines with unknown dates, would the list members >> be upset if I do a weekly posting of, say 10 names in an attempt to >> get >> more info? If you do object send me Email and I will stop. > This sounds like a good idea as well as one that is appropriate for this > group! Are you looking for the date that the computers first shipped or > perhaps rather advertised that they would ship :)? Thanks for the encouragement! Yes, the date of a machine is a problem, ideally, for mainframes I would like the date of running the first significant program. I have taken to using the date of publication of an announcemnt in for example IEEE Computer. Any reasonable and hopefully verifiable date would be welcomed. I have been browsing the back issues of PCW magazine of which I have a complete set of the first 8 years or so, and it is amusing to see the adverts for the Sinclair MK14, they start out as rough drawings, then more detailed ones and finally after 8 or so months we finally see a photograph. It would be interesting to see a the sequence of these ads juxtaposed, hmmm, yet another project ;-) Regards, Hans

28 years, 8 months

Comprehensive Computer Catalogue updated

by hans1＠filan00.grenoble.hp.com

I have updated my opus magnus : the Comprehensive Computer Catalogue (CCC), it now records 3574 computers. Please take a look and send any comments or updates my way. It can be found at <http://www.digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc> Use the FIND button to gain access to the search engine, from there you can look for your favorite machine by name or get a list of machines by manufacturer or date or country. There are over 800 machines with unknown dates, would the list members be upset if I do a weekly posting of, say 10 names in an attempt to get more info? If you do object send me Email and I will stop. Best regards, Hans B Pufal

28 years, 8 months

A Testimonial Dear Friends - CCRS

by danjo＠xnet.com

I was pleased to recieve this today after quite a few emails. I can't think a batter way to say why I joined the Classic Computer Rescue List/Squad. >Brett- > > Well, you're off the hook: I won't be trying to lure you out here for > computer rescues this time! (which is probably a good thing, with the > travel schedule you're looking at. . .) > > Anyway, my contact in western Michigan reappeared, and over the weekend > we did a complete hand over of *lots* of stuff. Now there's a family in > Kent City, Michigan, with a really good start on a full set of early > Zenith machines-- and there's one in Ann Arbor that has a lot more space > opened up in the basement (definitely what I call a win-win situation > :-) > > I do thank you, though, for the initial rescue, as well as the later > info and encouragement. Much appreciated! All the best -- Laura We do meet some of the Nicest People in the world. BC

28 years, 8 months

Heathkit machines (fwd)

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

An opportunity for a rescue in the Chicago area... -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 21:26:55 -0500 From: Keith McMillen <kmac(a)mmwg.com> To: jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com Subject: Heathkit machines Jim, I have an H-8 with dual floppy drives, and an H-89 (H-8 built into an H-19 terminal) with the built in floppy, plus an additional dual floppy drive setup. There are also a large box of floppies including CPM and the HDOS operating disks. I have no idea how much of this works anymore, but it was functioning when I put it on the shelf. We are moving and I can't take it with. If you can find a home for it, I would be very pleased. The machines are currently in the western suburbs of Chicago, IL. You may contact me at kmac(a)mmwg.com or call (630) 832-1990. KMAC

28 years, 8 months

First Chatroom test

by danjo＠xnet.com

Well, the turn out was smaller - but that was a Good Thing. Me 8-) and Frank McConnell started up about 20:02 CST. He's on the West Coast so it would have been about 18:02 for him 8-) were joined later by Hans Pufal in France - about 4:08 AM for him (what a trooper!) We tried out various stuff. It seems the Chatroom still has a few bugs. Bill Kendrick (the guy who wrote it) had mentioned some - but not all that we ran across. Still, it seemed to work well. Frank and Hans were running either IE or Netscape. I tried it - my poor little Linux system with 8 MB always did belly up with that running - so I went back to Lynx. Seems to like to say you just joined randomly (that was noted) and then about 95 minutes into it - the whole log got cleaned out. That MIGHT be a feature 8-) Oh there are a ton of features I haven't played with yet. You can put a picture on the chat line as well (scary in some cases 8-) and all sorts of robotic things to do - set up a Eliza talking to people 8-) and then also throwing gifs in to replace words. We are going to try it again on Thursday. Maybe earlier. Maybe later. BC

28 years, 8 months

New wishlist, and...

by kyrrin＠wizards.net

Now that I have your attention... I have need for the FIELD SERVICE diagnostics for the MicroVAX II. Not the customer-level ones; I already have them, and yes, they are a joke. Preferred media is TK50 or RX50. Other things I'm chasing are distribution kits for RSTS/E, ver. 9.x or higher, and Ultrix 4.5. For RSTS, I can take any of the following; 9-track tape, TK50, CD-ROM or RL02 (TK50 or CD-ROM preferred). For Ultrix, TK50 or CD-ROM (I can do RX50's in a pinch, but that'd be a LOT of floppies!). Also, I now have the ability to make binary image copies of TK50 tapes. This means that I can accept a tape on loan, long enough to copy it, and then send it back. It also means I can make copies for fellow VAXen-users. :-) Thanks in advance. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)wizards.net) http://www.wizards.net/technoid "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

28 years, 8 months

HX20 questions

by ard＠siva.bris.ac.uk

I've just been given an Epson HX20 laptop - it was not working when I got it, but it didn't take long to kludge over the damaged conductor in the keyboard flexiprint cable... Anyway, it came with some rather nice bits : The microcassette drive and 8 tapes A TF20 floppy drive unit and cable A pile of manuals - user manuals for the HX20 and TF20, BASIC reference manual, and _Technical_ manaul for the HX20. The latter is quite a find, and includes schematics of the machine, the tape unit and the ROM cartridge. I am lacking the systems disk for the TF20 - does anyone have one that they could make a copy of. I can supply a blank disk and pay postage, of course. I suspect that as I have the machine, I am entitled to have such a disk. I assume schematics for the TF20 don't exist anywhere... The TF20 contains a pair of 1/3 height voice-coil drives (like those in the QX10), and a controller board. The latter contains a Z80, 2K EPROM, 64K DRAM, the 765 disk controller chip, and TTL glue. There's a daughterboard with the serial chip on it to communicate with the HX20. This reminds me of another Epson object I have - a BM5 floppy drive. This looks like the TF20 (it's a white box, very deep from front to back, with a vertically mounted drive on the front). However, this drive seems to link to the internal controller using an ST506-like interface (34 pin and 20 pin cables), and the controller chips are hard disk controllers. Somebody told me that it stored 5 Mbytes/disk Does anyone know anything about this object? -tony

28 years, 8 months

Classic Computer Rescue - A Story

by manney＠nwohio.com

I've had (2) VT-100 terminals hanging around for awhile. Anyone want them? I'll have to check & see if they fire up. Manney > I'll keep an eye out for a VT-100 or such then....it doesnt look likely > I'll find a keyboard for the Altos anyhow. I think I've seen VT-100's for > about $50 on the newsgroups. >

28 years, 8 months

Timex-Sinclair for sale

by dhq＠juno.com

I'll sell everything for $35.00, includes USPS Priorty shipping anywhere in the US. If you live near Ft. Lauderdale you can pick it up for $25.00 PS. I found a paperback book with 51 game programs for the TS 1000 & 1500, it's included. Regards, David Quackenbush

28 years, 8 months

Need SW for Mac286 board

by jruschme＠hiway1.exit109.com

I just picked up and old AST Mac286 board set. This is a NUBUS-based 286 co-processor for the Mac. Unfortunately, it did not come with software. Can anyone send me a copy of it and any relevant info that I should know about. MIME-encoded disk images are fine. Thanks ever so much in advance... <<<John>>>

28 years, 8 months

CLASSICCMP digest 135

by kyrrin＠wizards.net

At 00:02 05-08-97 PDT, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:11:30 -0500 (CDT) >From: Brett <danjo(a)xnet.com> >To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu >Subject: Classic Computer Rescue - A Story >Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970804110442.15466B-100000@typhoon> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > >The Great Galesburg, Illinois Rescue > >Saturday August 2, 1997 - 07:00 >The alarm went off and I lept up from bed. Today was The Day. The Illinois >arm of the Classic Computer Rescue Squad was to make it's first Rescue! >First to the net to see if plans had changed. Nope - looking good! I make my >first pot of coffee (don't you love those Bunn's?) and start by cleaning out >the van. <snip> >2 - 11/44 >1 - VT-52 >3 - RA81 >1 - TE16 >1 - RSTS Manual set <snip> Whoa... did you happen to get any RSTS/E distribution media with that? I don't much care if its TK50, 9-track, or whatever... if you did, I'd be interested in at least a copy. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)wizards.net) http://www.wizards.net/technoid "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

28 years, 8 months

CLASSICCMP digest 135

by kyrrin＠wizards.net

At 00:02 05-08-97 PDT, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 12:00:21 +0500 >From: Jeff Hellige <jeffh(a)unix.aardvarkol.com> >To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu >Cc: adam(a)merlin.net.au >Subject: Re: Classic Computer Rescue - A Story >Message-ID: <yam7155.1075.129044000(a)mail.aardvarkol.com> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain > >On 04-Aug-97, Brett wrote: > >>Saturday August 2, 1997 - 07:00 >>The alarm went off and I lept up from bed. Today was The Day. The Illinois >>arm of the Classic Computer Rescue Squad was to make it's first Rescue! > > Interesting story...I also made my first rescue today! As some of you >already know, I was set to pick up a MicroVax II...well, I did! This thing is >a beast though...barely got it into the house by myself. Here are the specs >on it though I haven't popped open the case yet: <snip> Jeff, once you get that case open, please let me know which cards are in it. The one attached to that 50-pin connector MIGHT be a SCSI-to-QBus adapter. > Now, the guy said he had never seen this machine actually in use, so it's >been sitting for a while. When it was used though, he said it took input from >some sensors on scales and processed that in different ways. > > That's the full extent of what I can tell you about this machine at this >point, until I've gotten into the case. Any comments, info, suggestions, ect. >will be more than welcome! I have several items that may be of help, including a distribution tape for MicroVMS 4.5 (or 4.6? I can never remember). For what they're worth, I've also got a customer-level diagnostic tape. Both are on TK50 cartridges. If either would be of help, I can make you a copy and send it along. I also have some hardware docs on the MicroVAXen. FYI, sounds like you got the BA123 enclosure. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)wizards.net) http://www.wizards.net/technoid "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

28 years, 8 months

Surwave Amigo

by adam＠merlin.net.au

> Anyone know anything about the Surwave Amigo? I have a non-working > version, and am inclined to fix it, but I don't know what the system is. It > has a Z80a cpu,and I was told by someone (who could well be wrong) that it > runs Apple II software, but that is as much as I have found out so far. Some newly discovered additional information. :) After taking the boards out (one of which I assume is for the dual floppies, one for the hard drive? one unknown and one graphics card), I found a 6502. So it seems it is a dual processor Z80a/6502 machine. This, at least, explains the Apple ][ compatibility, but leaves me a tad more confused about its origins. Adam.

28 years, 8 months

Heads up! Check the attached in detail...

by kyrrin＠wizards.net

The attached showed up in sci.electronics.equipment. The main reason I'm forwarding it to the list is because the fellow advertises a complete C-64 with what appears to be an actual Commodore EPROM programmer. He's also got an Atari system and some other interesting goodies. Caveat emptor! Attachment follows. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- Path: news.eli.net!inquo!news.uoregon.edu!news.campus.rpslmc.edu!iagnet.net!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: corkymoo(a)aol.com (CorkyMoo) Newsgroups: sci.electronics.equipment Subject: fOr sAlE or there abouts. Date: 4 Aug 1997 15:57:10 GMT Lines: 137 Message-ID: <19970804155700.LAA11692(a)ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news(a)aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <33D3D23E.2862(a)GSI.DE> Xref: news.eli.net sci.electronics.equipment:12201 Some weights haven't been included. You pay shipping. 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28 years, 8 months

I'm to meet Yannes & Charpentier!

by adam＠merlin.net.au

>Ya Rich. Ask them if they would be interested in a first once again? >Hey Bill, with our own server up - do you feel like trying a realtime >chat group? Or is this asking too much - I know you are busy. Maybe >someone else could set up a host system for this. This would be *Real >Neat*. I guess if I suggest it - I better read up on it 8-) Anyone >else think this would be a neat idea??? I wrote Perl code for a web chat once, which ran quite well - but as it uses forms rather than Java it is not entirly real time. Anyway, if you want that we can probably work something out. Ada,

28 years, 8 months

Fwd: Free TVs,etc

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

If you still have the lisa manuals and stuff I will pay the shipping and cod cost to get them. Let me and thanks John Keys At 02:20 PM 8/4/97 -0500, you wrote: >Perhaps someone would be interested in the Lisa gear? > >Path: cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!slip-90-7.ots.utexas.edu!user >From: epotter(a)mail.utexas.edu (EPotter) >Newsgroups: austin.forsale >Subject: Free TVs,etc >Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 11:31:47 +0100 >Organization: The University of Texas at Austin >Lines: 3 >Distribution: austin >Message-ID: <epotter-0408971131470001(a)slip-90-7.ots.utexas.edu> >NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-90-7.ots.utexas.edu >Xref: cs.utexas.edu austin.forsale:104815 > >Two 25" heathkit TVs, working, with one extra chassis for parts. Large >and heavy, wood cabinets, not fibreboard, need grill cloth. Also several >Lisa keyboards, Lisa manuals, misc. all free, you haul it off. > >

28 years, 8 months

Fwd: Free TVs,etc

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

If you still these items I can drive down from Houston and ick up or if you only have the manuals I'll apy for shipping the manuals MN. Thanks John Keys At 02:20 PM 8/4/97 -0500, you wrote: >Perhaps someone would be interested in the Lisa gear? > >Path: cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!slip-90-7.ots.utexas.edu!user >From: epotter(a)mail.utexas.edu (EPotter) >Newsgroups: austin.forsale >Subject: Free TVs,etc >Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 11:31:47 +0100 >Organization: The University of Texas at Austin >Lines: 3 >Distribution: austin >Message-ID: <epotter-0408971131470001(a)slip-90-7.ots.utexas.edu> >NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-90-7.ots.utexas.edu >Xref: cs.utexas.edu austin.forsale:104815 > >Two 25" heathkit TVs, working, with one extra chassis for parts. Large >and heavy, wood cabinets, not fibreboard, need grill cloth. Also several >Lisa keyboards, Lisa manuals, misc. all free, you haul it off. > >

28 years, 8 months

Classic Computer Rescue - A Story

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

>>FYI the BA23 (Ihave one) slides into a plastic pedestal case from the back. >>or the metal box can have rack mount ears. > > This one also alows the whole chasis to slide in and out of the pedestal >case...and it looks like it'd allow it to do it just as easily from the front >as it would the rear. Take a look through the vent holes on top. The BA23 has a metal flange about halfway down which prevents it from coming too far out the front. You can get it out far enough to take off the cover plate over the drive bay, but that's about it. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

28 years, 8 months

Classic Computer Rescue - A Story

by allisonp＠world.std.com

Dave <figured out how to open the access door in the back, and saw some cards in <there, but exactly how do they come out? i didnt want to just start pullin <in case they are locked in somehow. Two screws lets the door loose. Cards slide straight out(pull) the quad wide cards (cpu and mem) have levers at the end, some observation should make their operation clear. FYI cables need to be moved/removed to get at things in a ba23. Not order and position. This is a buss based system and buss continuity is partly based on position and adajacentcy. Depending on age amd options installed the mix of card could vary. Minimally there will be one cpu (top), at least one memory(4/8meg), A DHV11 8line serial, TQK50 tape(optional), DEQNA(NI), RQDX2/3 floppy hard disk controller. If there is a video console there could be one or two more cards. Allison

28 years, 8 months

Surwave Amigo

by adam＠merlin.net.au

Hi! Anyone know anything about the Surwave Amigo? I have a non-working version, and am inclined to fix it, but I don't know what the system is. It has a Z80a cpu,and I was told by someone (who could well be wrong) that it runs Apple II software, but that is as much as I have found out so far. Thanks heaps, Adam.

28 years, 8 months

Classic Computer Rescue - A Story

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I also have a uVAX II, and i partially dissembled mine and hosed down the outer plastic shell since there was lots of nasty dust in there. i finally figured out how to open the access door in the back, and saw some cards in there, but exactly how do they come out? i didnt want to just start pulling in case they are locked in somehow. david

28 years, 8 months

I'm to meet Yannes & Charpentier!

by rcini＠msn.com

For all of those Commodore followers... Something interesting happened today. One of my co-workers asked me to work with her on something relating to a company called Ensoniq, a manufacturer of sound cards and hign-end MIDI equipment. She was reading to me over the phone about the founders and how they came from Commodore International. Hmmmm. She then read the names: Al Charpentier and Robert Yannes. I didn't immediately recognize Al's name, but I knew Yannes. He created the prototypes for the VIC-20 and C64. Reading on, she confirmed my guess. Al ran the LSI section of the Advanced Systems Design Group within Commodore. From the info that we have, it seems that Al did mostly chip design, including the VIC-I and VIC-II, and Bob did mostly systems design. Well, in about a week or two, I'll be meeting these guys. Does anyone have any special questions that are not too off-the-wall and that I can slip into conversation? ------------------------------------------------- Rich Cini/WUGNET e-mail: rcini(a)msn.com - ClubWin Charter Member (6) - MCPS Windows 95/Netowrking

28 years, 8 months

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