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by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

>From: "PG Manney" <manney(a)nwohio.com> >Subject: Re: Sorry, I need to get this to PG Manney, there was [snip!] >>> I'm new at collecting classics. What is a VIC-20? The VIC-20 was Commodore's first computer...2K of RAM (I think), did sounds and color TV screen stuff. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the VIC-20 is pretty far down the line in computers from Commodore it debuted as the last model of the PET/CBM line came into being, the SuperPET. VIC-20 has 5k of RAM which about 3.5k is available for BASIC programs (the rest is for operating registers, video memory, etc.) [snip!] > and Apple? >Apple II C (I think). >> I have a TV screen, I even have one in the guest >>bedroom that's used once in a blue moon. Didn't the older Apples up to the >>IIGS have attached monitors? >I don't think so. I'm no Apple expert, though. I am not an expert but there were RF modualtors (the thing you use to connect a computer to a TV) for the Apple, from my historical research Apple could not get FCC certification for an RF adapter for the ][s so they did not sell any but routed customers to their supplier. I think the product name was SupRMod or SupRMod ][ or something like that... In general if it has a composite video output, you proabably can find an RF modualtor for it. :D >thedm(a)sunflower.com Larry Anderson -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

28 years, 5 months

MSCP bootstrap

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

I need the MSCP bootstrap which can be loaded directly into RAM. (The one on sunsite needs RT11) Anyone got one?

28 years, 5 months

System/74

by Zeus334＠aol.com

Does anyone have any info on the IBM System/74? I can't really get much access to it because it's gathering dust in a supply room. Also, I have a bunch of data tapes for reel to reel recorders. They are labelled: ADES v.4.0 1600bpi Bad Tape Nova Eclipse ADES 3.0 1600 bpi (labelled bad) 1/4 micro linewidth control patterns, Bell Labs; RDOS dumps of 1/4 micro patterns Tape 0008 Pattern file 2 (A) Tape 0009 Pattern file 3 3/14/91 Tape 0010 Pattern file 4(C-I) Tape 0012 Pattern file 6(L-R) ADES TAPE Advanced Diagnostic Executive System 800 bpi Rev.3.0 7/16/86 5130 Cuchiving Disk (a large list of nonsense follows) 4/1/86 800 bpi DAYDUMP A (I) DAYDUMP A (II) FORTH.FL C-NOVA CONTROLLER Rev. F Any idea what this stuff is, and for what machine(s)?

28 years, 5 months

IRC server, probably just for old computers...

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

I just put up an ircd, and chances are it's going to be unused, so make a #classiccmp channel or something on it. bsdserver.tek-star.net 6667 I'll probably be on as ds80 Just something to keep it from going idle.

28 years, 5 months

Fido lives!

by engine＠chac.org

At 17:30 11/1/97 +0300, you wrote: >Good to hear that. If I do get a computer, it will have an AMD processor. >If memory serves, Intel cut off the 386 at 20 mhz. Nah. Intel 16, 20, 25, 33, and AMD 40. __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

28 years, 5 months

Fido lives!

by allisonp＠world.std.com

From: "Hotze" <photze(a)batelco.com.bh> <Good to hear that. If I do get a computer, it will have an AMD processor. <If memory serves, Intel cut off the 386 at 20 mhz. At a bare minimum intel went to 33mhz, I know as I have both the DX and SX versions. <Do you know where I can get any of this software? Also, I need to know <how to rig it up so that I can get nultiple connections over one phone lin <(my computer has one dedicated line already), also, if I can use one modem <(say a 33,600) to divide up to several 4800 connections. What your referring to is making one physical circuit look like multiple virtual circuits, aka networking. For PCs and minicomputers that is possible between each other but, not as a computer to phone line interface(caveats exist). For phone modems sharing it between phone lines is not an option. For BBSing you need one modem and one phone line for every user you wish to have on line at the same time. The modems do not have to be the same speed and even slow ones can eb useful. Allison

28 years, 5 months

Computer collecting humor.

by kstumpf＠unusual.on.ca

How many computer collectors does it take to change a light bulb? Forty. One to change the light bulb and thirty-nine to chat about how good the old one was. Yours in good faith. Kevin Stumpf Remember, mainframes used to be really big. +1.519.744.2900 (EST/EDT GMT-5)

28 years, 5 months

Sorry, I need to get this to PG Manney, there was

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Okay, I'll get you the motherboard ASAP, and computers DON'T make mistakes; programmers do. >Glad to take it! I'll ship the 486/33 processor to you, but if it is alright, can I have a slightly higher discount on shiping on which ever computer I end up taking? I don't know how much the 486/66 processor w/board w/16 MB RAM is worth, you could tell me, and then whatever you think the 486/33 is worth. But remember, the 33 is a SX, so it has no math processor. The 66 is a DX2. >The VIC-20 was Commodore's first computer...2K of RAM (I think), did sounds >and color TV screen stuff. >Commodore 64 >Apple II C (I think). Well, I'm not sure which I'll take, but I don't really need the Apple II C, maybe the Commodore 64, or the VIC 20. I have a TV screen, I even have one in the guest >bedroom that's used once in a blue moon. Didn't the older Apples up to the >IIGS have attached monitors? >>The Post Office tells me that 44 lbs will cost $89 US to send to you. If >you >>have a TV screen, you can save on the cost of shipping a monitor for an >>Apple/Commodore/anything else. (The IBM will work a TV screen with the >right >>card, but colors are funny). How much does the Commodore 64 or the VIC-20 weigh? (That might make a difference in what I chose.), but it'll probably be the VIC 20. I have a friend who might buy the C64 from you. In your next e-mail, tell me how much you would sell the C64 for, so I can tell him. Thanks again, Tim D. Hotze

28 years, 5 months

Fido lives!

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Good to hear that. If I do get a computer, it will have an AMD processor. If memory serves, Intel cut off the 386 at 20 mhz. Do you know where I can get any of this software? Also, I need to know how to rig it up so that I can get nultiple connections over one phone line (my computer has one dedicated line already), also, if I can use one modem (say a 33,600) to divide up to several 4800 connections. Thanks, Tim D. Hotze ---------- From: Bruce Lane <kyrrin2(a)wizards.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Fido lives! Date: Saturday, November 01, 1997 11:30 AM At least, it lives as far as I can tell. ;-) If Tom Jennings did indeed 'pull the plug,' I've seen no indication of it whatsoever at my end. If anything, traffic on the echos I carry is higher than normal. To answer an earlier question about hardware; my DOS-based BBS has been running very happily, since 1990, on a 386DX-40 (AMD processor, of course!) and 8 MB RAM. I use RemoteAccess 2.01 for the base BBS package, Portal of Power 0.62 for the front-end mailer, and FastEcho for the mail processor. Scott Samet's XLAXNODE handles my weekly nodelist compilation. The system has been extremely trouble-free, and has been pretty much self-maintaining since 1994. The only things I need to do with it are to pick up my mail every week and check for new users every so often. As long as I continue to see a NODEDIFF each week, and as long as I continue to pay dues to my local group for echo traffic, I will assume that FidoNet still lives. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net) http://www.wizards.net/technoid "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

28 years, 5 months

My Recent find

by ejames＠newwave.net

Hi To Everyone on the list I have been following this list for a couple of months now and here is a Short list of my finds so far. Commodore 128 1902 moniter 2 1571 drives and Okidate Plug N Print 10. Texas Instruments tI994a with Biege plastic Cover and tape Deck Color Computer 2 with cassette deck Atari 800 and Tape deck and my latest find a Amiga 1000 with 1080 moniter and 512k memory anyone have more information on expansion of this computer?? Bruce James ejames(a)newwave.net

28 years, 5 months

Fido lives!

by kyrrin2＠wizards.net

At least, it lives as far as I can tell. ;-) If Tom Jennings did indeed 'pull the plug,' I've seen no indication of it whatsoever at my end. If anything, traffic on the echos I carry is higher than normal. To answer an earlier question about hardware; my DOS-based BBS has been running very happily, since 1990, on a 386DX-40 (AMD processor, of course!) and 8 MB RAM. I use RemoteAccess 2.01 for the base BBS package, Portal of Power 0.62 for the front-end mailer, and FastEcho for the mail processor. Scott Samet's XLAXNODE handles my weekly nodelist compilation. The system has been extremely trouble-free, and has been pretty much self-maintaining since 1994. The only things I need to do with it are to pick up my mail every week and check for new users every so often. As long as I continue to see a NODEDIFF each week, and as long as I continue to pay dues to my local group for echo traffic, I will assume that FidoNet still lives. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net) http://www.wizards.net/technoid "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

28 years, 5 months

Corvus Concept

by kevan＠heydon.org

Hi, Last night I acquired a Corvus Concept CPU box and hard disk unit. Does anybody have any information about these? More specifically I am missing the monitor and keyboard and have no documentation on the specifications of these. They are both 9pin D connectors and that is all I know. -- Kevan Old Computer Collector: http://staff.motiv.co.uk/~kevan/

28 years, 5 months

Corvus Concept

by fmc＠reanimators.org

kevan(a)heydon.org wrote: > Last night I acquired a Corvus Concept CPU box and hard disk unit. Does > anybody have any information about these? More specifically I am > missing the monitor and keyboard and have no documentation on the > specifications of these. They are both 9pin D connectors and that is > all I know. Well, I am sitting here looking at a little book with title HARDWARE DESCRIPTION THE CORVUS CONCEPT You might think that with a title like that it would have connector pinouts, but, um, not quite. Well, it does have the pinout for the bus slots, which are like Apple ][ slots less DMA support. So what can I find about video? The display area is supposed to be 560 x 720 dots. The monitor used by Corvus was a Ball HD series monitor (so says the manual) in a Corvus-peculiar case (so says me). It looks like all the timing is derived from a 16.364 MHz clock that is generated on the memory board. That gets divided by the "horizontal counter" (74163s at U202 then U203 and U204) to produce a 34.669 KHz clock that is the horizontal scanning frequency. There is also a "vertical counter" (at U301) to produce a 50 Hz or 60 Hz vertical sync clock. "The video shift registers comprise 74S299 U106, U206 and 74ls299 U306..U806 for video data. The data is shifted at 16 MHz in two pairs of registers. The output of one register is fed directly into a 74S157 multiplexer U104 which is switched between two inputs at a 16 MHz rate. The other register feeds a 74S112 flipflop U103 which delays the data by 30 ms and then feeds it to the multiplexer. This makes a data rate of 32 MHz." I'm not much of a hardware guy, but I hope that gives you some clues for board-tracing and monitor selection. Note that the system can run the monitor in either landscape or portrait mode (hence the peculiar case, with slots for the base on two sides). I think you are supposed to tell it how you've got the monitor positioned with the VERT/HORIZ switch on the back. That doesn't change the video timing, it changes how the software draws into the memory. Now what about the keyboard? I gather there is a 6551 UART at U310 that receives keycodes, one for each key-down or key-up. Key-down codes have the most-significant-bit set; key-up codes have it clear but are otherwise identical to key-down codes. ... Some other notes. Jeff Kaneko wrote that the operating system was "Unix-like". I don't know, I haven't seen it run much less try to hack on it, but from reading the manuals I'd say it was more p-System like, except that it runs 68000 code instead of p-Machine code. The hard disk(s) could be hooked up over the Omninet (in which case the disk box was connected to an Omninet-attached disk server box) or via a hard-disk interface that sat in one of the Concept's expansion slots. There were also expansion cards to control 8" and 5.25" diskette drives. I'm not sure exactly how the VCR-backup stuff works. From reading another manual (the Disk Drive Installation Guide) it looks like there is an option for the disk to have a "Mirror" built-in. There are four DIP switches on the back that need to be set different ways for different circumstances: no Mirror built in => all closed Mirror built in, NTSC VCR => all open Mirror built in, PAL/SECAM VCR => 1 closed, 2-4 open ... Well, I hope that helps a bit. Yes, I have one of these. No, I haven't done anything with it as yet, save haul the CPU, monitor, and keyboard up to VCF for folks to gawk at. -Frank McConnell

28 years, 5 months

BBS Box

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

---------- From: Brett <danjo(a)xnet.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: BBS Box Date: Saturday, November 01, 1997 4:35 AM On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Hotze wrote: Huh? I hope you mean text based versus graphics here 8-) Anything will be fine, but I want as much graphics cabilities as possible. > I'm really ready to learn, but at > this time of writing, I only have the 486/66, and an 080880/8Mhz, which > dosn't work. I really just want to make something for my friends and I to > meet on... here, Internet is still expensive, and most people refust to > upgrade to anything past Netscape 2.0. I need really to know about > multiple phone/modems. The phone isn't a problem, the modem is. How much > do the 4800's run for? I've already got two modems, one a 2400 sendf/9600 > recieve, and another a 33.6 both ways. I really need to know what to do, > the whole smackum, as I'm very "computer literate", in DOS and Windows, but > rather inexperianced with this kind of stuff. > Ciao, > > Tim D. Hotze >Tim - go right for Linux! Don't even think of FIDO - well think about it >8-) I only have a 28.8 connection, and I don't know where I can get an inexpensive Linux OS. Maybe you can help me. OR CAN ANYONE ELSE HERE HELP ME? >If you get UUCP support, you can acutally become a local provider. If your >buddies want web pages and a shell account to play with Linux is your best >bet. You can - with UUCP - even allow Internet EMail - and even even >access other systems if you set up your system correctly. You can send and >recieve email and files - oh say 4-8 times a day - more frequently if you >want and all of them will transfer in one shot so it is *like* FIDOnet. Can you help me with that? Explain more. That's very interesting. >I run Linux 2.0.28/9 on two machines - one is my dedicated comms server >with diald to make the connection and it has a HTTP server with EMail. >We only connect with one modem and everybody uses the same connection at >the same time. Yeah, but here, a dedicated connection costs about $10,000 a month. I don't even want to think of that. Possibly I could just connect then disconnect really quickly. >Get whatever modems you want to use - a multiple port serial card will >let you run as many modems as you can afford 8-) 16-32 way too many >phones lines to afford! DO NOT use internals - even with M$ stuff! Okay, no internals. But don't worry about the phone lines. 1: it's only 5, and 2. I can get them free. >FIDO net was set up to allow home computers to run like UUCP machines >(when they were the *rage*) so why not use the real thing? Why not? But I want to do this on my home computer :-) Just my $0.48 worth 8-) BC

28 years, 5 months

BBS Box

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Well, I really want to just have about 5 connections. I don't want to be using the machine for my own purposes, but rather to "join in" on the BBS itself. I think that a 4800 connection would be good... about twice as fast as a 28800 internet connection. I'm really ready to learn, but at this time of writing, I only have the 486/66, and an 080880/8Mhz, which dosn't work. I really just want to make something for my friends and I to meet on... here, Internet is still expensive, and most people refust to upgrade to anything past Netscape 2.0. I need really to know about multiple phone/modems. The phone isn't a problem, the modem is. How much do the 4800's run for? I've already got two modems, one a 2400 sendf/9600 recieve, and another a 33.6 both ways. I really need to know what to do, the whole smackum, as I'm very "computer literate", in DOS and Windows, but rather inexperianced with this kind of stuff. Ciao, Tim D. Hotze ---------- From: Roger Merchberger <zmerch(a)northernway.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: BBS Box Date: Friday, October 31, 1997 6:46 PM Due to massive amounts of caffeine & sleep deprivation, Hotze said: > Oh, yeah, I have one more question. If I want to make a BBS (regardless >or software), what type of hardware should I have to handle multiple >connections? I believe that my computer is BBS-server-sufficent for DOS (2 >GB HDD, 28 MB RAM, 486/66 processor), as that's twice as fast as a server >would be in 1990, with DOS at it's peak, before Windows started ruining the >whole thing :-) . How many multiple connections? What kind of speed per connection? Do you also want to use the machine for yourself at the same time? These do make a difference, for you could run 2 connections at 2400 baud on a 2Mhz CoCo 3 w/512K RAM. All you need is a way to interface the ports (or build your own.) Under OS-9, you may even have enough CPU over to play Rogue (tho not quickly). With a 6309 processor and NitrOS-9, you could most easily do this setup and still use the machine for yourself. (And yes, someone *has* designed an overclocking circuit to run a 6x09 at 4Mhz, except during memory accesses which does gain you a fair amount of speed... ;-) In the IBM world, I'd say for 4 dial up lines at 9600/14.4 you'd need a minimum of a 386DX 25 w/8 Megs RAM, running Dos/Linux (Windows not spoken here... too much overhead) and decent BBS software and you'd have no problem whatsoever. (Again, with Linux, you may still be able to use the machine for background tasks for yourself without harming that speed... but not big jobs, of course.) Anyway, YMMV, HTH, HSIYE (Here's Spit In Your Eye... ;-) and all that jazz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger Merchberger | Why does Hershey's put nutritional Programmer, NorthernWay | information on their candy bar wrappers zmerch(a)northernway.net | when there's no nutritional value within?

28 years, 5 months

DL11 cables

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

here we go again... With the DLV11-J cable, RCV- and GND have to be crossed. Is there any such crossing required with the DL11-W? I can see output from the PDP, but I can't talk back to it.

28 years, 5 months

PDP-11/44 in NYC area: Needs Rescue!

by kyrrin2＠wizards.net

Hi, folks, Those in the New York area, heads up! Found this on Usenet... <NOTE TO BOB SCHOR: I've forwarded your post to a mailing list of folk who specialize in keeping the old systems alive. If anyone's interested, they'll respond to you directly>. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- Path: Supernews70!Supernews60!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!pitt.edu!newsfeed.pitt.edu!news From: Bob Schor <bschor(a)vms.cis.pitt.edu> Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 Subject: 11/44 Available in NYC Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:11:27 -0400 Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3440B05F.E136987D(a)vms.cis.pitt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ehdup-b1-1.rmt.net.pitt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: Supernews70 vmsnet.pdp-11:8571 I have just turned off a PDP-11/44 which has been pretty much continuously running since the early 1980's (I'm not sure when we got it >from DEC). It is available to anyone who wants it, but you better act fast, as others are itching to get the room it is in (and will probably consign it to the dumpster). There are also two RK06 drives, but we haven't been using them for perhaps a decade (using a Winchester disk on a Dilog MSCP controller). There are also two DZ boards on this system, plus documentation (again, act quickly!). Give me a call or send e-mail ASAP. This machine is located at Rockefeller University in New York City. You would need to Come and Get It ... Bob Schor University of Pittsburgh (412) 647-2116 bschor(a)vms.cis.pitt.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL SUBJECT TO $500.00 PROOFREADING FEE PER ITEM SENT. SENDING ME SUCH UNSOLICITED ITEMS CONSTITUTES UNDERSTANDING AND ACCEPTANCE OF THESE TERMS. Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272) http://www.wizards.net/technoid -- kyrrin2-At-Wizards-Dot-Net "...Spam is bad. Spam wastes resources. Spam is theft of service. Don't spam, period..."

28 years, 5 months

Sorry....

by engine＠chac.org

>I have an old IDE drive, it's a Segate 41 MB. It says ST-251, then on a >seperate sticker it says -1 right next to the first one. Serial number is >25534738. It's the large kind, like they had back in the early 80's. An ST-251-1 isn't an IDE. It's a 40MB half-height 5.25 MFM drive. It'll run at 1 to 1 (also known as "no") interleave if you can find a fast enough controller; try an Everex EV-332 with fairly late ROMs.

28 years, 5 months

Sorry....

by manney＠nwohio.com

>>I have an old IDE drive, it's a Segate 41 MB. It says ST-251, then on a >>seperate sticker it says -1 right next to the first one. Serial number is >>25534738. It's the large kind, like they had back in the early 80's. > > >An ST-251-1 isn't an IDE. It's a 40MB half-height 5.25 MFM drive. It'll >run at 1 to 1 (also known as "no") interleave if you can find a fast enough >controller; try an Everex EV-332 with fairly late ROMs. Um -- very tiny point. The interface is ST-506/412. The _encoding_ is MFM. Plenty of 5 1/4" form factor drives (such as the ST-238) used RLL encoding, but the same physical interface...i.e. ST-506/412. You can tell an IDE because it has one 40-pin cable...the ST-506/412 interface required 2 cables...a 20-pin and a 34 pin. ESDI's (rare) took 2 cables (20 & 34) also. manney(a)nwohio.com

28 years, 5 months

'Naked Mini' docs needed

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

Just picked up a Computer Automation "Naked Mini" computer (PC board actually), and now need to find some docs on it. I can make a few assumptions based on examining the board, but there a number of option jumpers, connectors, and card edge (finger) connectors on it, and I'd just as rather not blow the poor thing up by experimenting on it. So, does anyone have either a spare copy of the docs, or can be convinced to run a set thru your favourite mode of duplication? -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

28 years, 5 months

new addition: atari portfolio

by sinasohn＠crl.com

> while searching around town for a mac II video card, i came across this > little machine for $10 at a computer parts store! not long ago, some idiot That's a great price for a portfolio. (Even without all the the expansion stuff.) The portfolio was one of the first handheld computers, and is (afaik) either the first or second handheld PC Compatible. (The other contender is the Poquet PC -- I've never seen a definitive answer as to which was first.) If you want to get rid of it, I'd gladly double your money! 8^) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)ricochet.net that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 5 months

Mark Smith's Atari pages

by engine＠chac.org

At 09:51 10/31/97 -0000, you wrote: >The link that you have followed points to a document that does not exist. >Please contact the author(s) of the referer document to ask them to >remove/correct the pointer. > >Is the page gone or is the URL wrong? Neither, I just got to it myself. It's at Manchester. Try http://www.mcc.ac.uk/~dlms/atari.html __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

28 years, 5 months

new addition: atari portfolio

by engine＠chac.org

At 04:11 10/31/97 +0000, you wrote: >> while searching around town for a mac II video card, i came across this >> little machine for $10 at a computer parts store! not long ago, some idiot >> was trying to sell something similar for $100.... A: You were real lucky to get one for $10. B: re "idiot," I bought a Pofo with a cool leather case, two RAM cards and full docs from a Stanford student for $75, two years ago, and recognized it then as a bargain. Today in the Valley a working Portfolio, with case and set of goodies, is $150 to $200. (For most of its life the bare machine sold for $295 new.) __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

28 years, 5 months

Fido is far from dead!

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Okay, let's all try to search for this Tim Jennings and try to encourage him to either re-connect or make a new version of Fido. There are enough of us with enough experiance to encourage him. Imagine! Having a living legend with us!!! I believe that BBSs in a HTML or Java-ized form still have a chance yet. They're 1. fast 2. cheap 3. You can use them for a multitude of services-like you could have 1 server, give it a cheap (sort of) 56K or ISDN connection, and then all users would have internet access. At least we could try to get patent rights if he'd let us. (Which he probably would, as he's not doing to much with it now!), and establish ourselves as a hisoric society (What else could you call us?), and make a few BBSs just to be a part of history. Oh, yeah, I have one more question. If I want to make a BBS (regardless or software), what type of hardware should I have to handle multiple connections? I believe that my computer is BBS-server-sufficent for DOS (2 GB HDD, 28 MB RAM, 486/66 processor), as that's twice as fast as a server would be in 1990, with DOS at it's peak, before Windows started ruining the whole thing :-) . Ciao, Tim D. Hotze ---------- From: Lawrence Walker <lwalker(a)mail.interlog.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Fido is far from dead! Date: Friday, October 31, 1997 7:11 AM > At 07:38 AM 10/29/97 -0800, you wrote: > >>Check around on the web for Fido software. Back in the days before the > >>Internet, FidoNet was a world-wide network of independant BBS's. > > > > Fido is far from dead. In fact, some sysops have claimed an increase in > > Whups! I did not mean to imply at all that Fido was dead. Only that I was > communicating with people around the world long before most of us heard > about the Internet. I think Fido is great and I'm glad to hear it is still > going strong. > Btw, is Tom(?) Jennings (is that his name? the author of Fido) still around > in the Fido world? I met him once -- a true genius, and definitely deserves > greater acclaim than he has received. > Maybe someone more knowledgeable could fill us in, but based on scuttlebut I read in some FIDO confs. he recently pulled the plug on FIDO, since he holds the patent, and many N.A. nodes have folded their tents and the remaining ones are operating illegally, causing a drop-off in traffic. Outside N.A. AFAIK , it's going strong. Perhaps Bruce Lane could set me straight on this if you will. ciao larry lwalkerN0spaM(a)interlog.com

28 years, 5 months

UK Based CPM machine collectors...

by kevan＠heydon.org

Hi, Are there any collectors in the UK that specialize in CPM machines. Last night I acquired a Philips PC2000 portable (along with the Corvis Concept) and while it is a nice machine (and has lots of documentation including service manuals) I don't have a great affinity to CPM machines because I have never used them out side of collecting them. (and I am trying to limit my collection to home micros, workstations and strange one off machines.) If you would be interested in this machine, and maybe some others I have then email me. -- Kevan Old Computer Collector: http://staff.motiv.co.uk/~kevan/

28 years, 5 months

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