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by fmc＠reanimators.org

Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> wrote: > I wonder what a "virtual terminal" is? I'm thinking that the "virtual terminals" are the workspaces. > Do you remember how they moved text between windows? Is it a cut and > paste operation like MS Windows? Um, no. As I recall it used the logging function. You set up the "to" device to be a workspace and then turn on log top or log bottom. E.g. if you turned on log bottom, then as each line was received it would be copied (by the terminal) over to the workspace set as "to" device, and if that workspace is attached to the other datacomm port then the line gets sent out that port. So I don't think you can cut-and-paste very easily, but you can set the thing up to do simple data logging. -Frank McConnell

28 years, 2 months

CGA Modes (Wuz: Win 3.0)

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>>Is it some kind of "Super CGA" that wasn't really supported by anyo > > > > I know some game companies "tweaked" certain memory registers or so > > so that standard CGA could do 320x200x16 colors, but as far as I'm > > I never heard of 320 x 200 x 16 for the CGA - I seem to remember 160 > 200 x 16 - surely it would not have had the memory for the other? I have an ATI Graphics Solution board that does: 40x25 character 80x25 character 320x200 color graphics 640x200 color/graphics 600/200 b/w modes plantronics color/graphics ati 640x200x16 color graphics 640x200x4 color 320x200x16 color 132x25 color text mode IBM mono (MDA) Hercules graphics mode 132x25 mono 132x44 mono Off hand the 6845 could likely be programmed for other more odd modes. Allison

28 years, 2 months

Stupid bus tricks

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<You talked about a system where the bus had to be arbitrated, that <wouldn't necessarily be needed if you went through SCSI, would it... I've done it with shared memory, SCSI, and most buses. SCSI worked well with AmproLBs. the physical medium does not determine what networking protocal is or can be used only the physical layer. So IP over scsi is doable as is DECNET in shared memory or simple async serial lines (DDCMP). Allison

28 years, 2 months

Massively Classic System WAS(Re: Stupid bus tricks)

by higginbo＠netpath.net

At 08:53 PM 2/2/98 -0700, you wrote: >I think John's on to something here. How about connect together a >S-100, EEEI-696, EISA, MCI, PCI, VME and Multibus plane and create a >monitor that will allow CPU and memory on each system running >concurrently with mix and match boards as you like (or have) running >Concurrent CPM? > >To play PONG on..... Pong? Pong? At least have it run Spacewar, for pete's sake! -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 2 months

VAXStation 2000 start-up questions

by sethm＠loomcom.com

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28 years, 2 months

Fairchild Channel F

by COAKLEY＠AC.GRIN.EDU

> Checked on usenet, now I remember why I didn't go there at first: > --I am not interested in Making $$$$$ > --I DONT NEED PASSWORD FOR SEX SITES > --I have nothing to sell and I don't want to buy anything. > I better try the mailing list. The worst part is, rgvc is considered pretty high-signal these days. It's been a bad week, though. BTW, I think I just gave you the list address, rather than the list request address. At least, I got your subscribe message, and I suspect the rest of the list did too. You might want to try classic-videogames-request(a)moose.webworks.ca for the actual subscribe request. Sorry about that, -- Ben Coakley http://www.math.grin.edu/~coakley coakley(a)ac.grin.edu Station Manager, KDIC 88.5 FM CBEL: Xavier OH Wow, this is global. -Mtn Goats

28 years, 2 months

Stupid bus tricks

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

28 years, 2 months

Apple ][+ OS

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 07:26 AM 1/31/98 +0300, you wrote: >Actually, I was wondering what the heck Microsloth was thinking when they >made it 8 characters. And, the fact that in the next 5 FULL RELEASES If I'm not mistaken, the 8.3 convention comes from (at least) CP/M. Possibly from some other OpSys before that as well. When you've got 16K of memory, you probably don't want to waste 30 bytes when 8 will do just as well. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 2 months

Stupid bus tricks

by higginbo＠netpath.net

An even better stupid bus trick would be to connect all those bus types together, and have any card on any bus recognized by any computer. (But don't look at me, I'm just an idea man!) At 04:20 PM 2/2/98, you wrote: >It would be a LOT easier to connect them via a null-modem or just use >LapLink or something similar (Fast Lynx is my preference). > > Joe > > >At 11:47 AM 2/2/98 PST, you wrote: >>Could I attach two PC motherboards (ISA? PS/2? PCI? EISA? NuBUS? >>Others?) together via a ribbon cable by the bus connectors and then >>transfer data among them, of course having written the approporiate >>drivers? >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 2 months

Fairchild Channel F

by francois.auradon＠worldnet.att.net

>To the original poster - you may have better luck asking on the classic >videogames mailing list (classic-videogames(a)moose.webworks.ca) or if you >have usenet access, on rec.games.video.classic. Checked on usenet, now I remember why I didn't go there at first: --I am not interested in Making $$$$$ --I DONT NEED PASSWORD FOR SEX SITES --I have nothing to sell and I don't want to buy anything. I better try the mailing list. -- Ben Coakley http://www.math.grin.edu/~coakley coakley(a)ac.grin.edu Station Manager, KDIC 88.5 FM CBEL: Xavier OH Wow, this is global. -Mtn Goats

28 years, 2 months

RED ALERT! FREE VAX Cluster needs rescue!

by kyrrin2＠wizards.net

Those of you in or near Milwaukee may want to take note of this... ;-) -=-=- <snip> -=-=- >Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:12:35 -0600 (CST) >From: "HULBERT JOSHUA" <hulbertj(a)msoe.edu> >To: port-vax(a)netbsd.org >Subject: Free VAX Cluster! >Sender: port-vax-owner(a)NetBSD.ORG >Delivered-To: port-vax(a)NetBSD.ORG > >Hi, > >To anyone interested, my school is looking to make the old VAX cluster >disappear. It consists of two MV3600's, several racks of RA81/82's, one >MVII, and a TU-something-or-other. I haven't had time to go down and look >at the innards of any of the machines, but I will if anyone expresses an >interest in them. The whole shebang was operational the day they took it >to the basement, so I assume it still is. > >We also have two or three VS3100's, but I'm really not sure what shape >they're in. > >We are located in downtown Milwaukee, WI. The machines would be free for >the taking, or if anyone wants to pay the shipping, we could work >something out. I'd really like to see it all go toward the NetBSD cause, >otherwise they'll be scrapped for the gold :( > >Please get back to me as soon as possible. I'm guessing we have until the >end of the week, at which time the scrap metal man comes. I've had >phantasies about bringing the stuff home, but "home" is actually a dorm >room. Dunno if plugging the 3600's in will actually cause a brownout or >not. Housing wouldn't be pleased, I'm guessing. > >Cheers! > >Joshua Hulbert >Milwaukee School of Engineering >hulbertj(a)msoe.edu >(414) 287-4827 > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net) http://www.wizards.net/technoid "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

28 years, 2 months

CGA Modes (Wuz: Win 3.0)

by higginbo＠netpath.net

At 09:09 PM 2/2/98 -0600, you wrote: >As a side note... the Tandy 1000 line also supported three-voice digital >sound--also stolen from the PCjr. You will also find this supported in >those games too. Yeah, I played quite a few games on my 1000tx with both these features. Sure beat standard CGA and PC speaker! -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 2 months

Stupid bus tricks

by higginbo＠netpath.net

At 08:59 PM 2/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >logic that drives those busses is strong enough that if one were to >assert a logic 1 and the other a logic 0 the result literally would be >smoke. But wouldn't it be fun to watch as a spectator? :) -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 2 months

TRW Acquisitions, VCF

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> wrote: > Thanks Frank. I have two HP 2626s coming. I'd like give them a try just > for kicks. I understand that they'll support up to four sessions > simultanously. Seems stange to think of running the Altair via something > like that. 2626A or 2626W? The latter were intended for use with a word-processing product for the HP3000, called HPWORD. But that's another story, and as terminals they don't behave much different from each other. It's been a while since I did anything with them but I do remember setting one up to do the multi-session thing just to see how it worked. Conceptually it goes something like this: the terminal can have up to four workspaces, where each workspace has a chunk of the terminal's display buffer memory. You can then split the display into two or four windows (tiles) into the workspaces and associate devices with the workspaces (don't remember the details of this). But you only have two datacomm ports, so I'm not really sure how you can manage four sessions. Oh, how well did it work? I seem to remember thinking that it was cumbersome to use, difficult to switch between workspaces and to resize them as you were going. But I knew some other people who used this to move small chunks of text between two connected host computers, so maybe it was just something that you could get used to after a while. > I do have some junk VT-320s that I had forgotten about. I'll see if one > of them works in the mean time. Should be OK too, even if you end up working with software that expects a VT100. But I bet the Portable Pluses are easier to move! -Frank McConnell

28 years, 2 months

Stupid bus tricks

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Could I attach two PC motherboards (ISA? PS/2? PCI? EISA? NuBUS? Others?) together via a ribbon cable by the bus connectors and then transfer data among them, of course having written the approporiate drivers? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 2 months

Fairchild Channel F

by francois.auradon＠worldnet.att.net

OK Thanks for the pointers. >To the original poster - you may have better luck asking on the classic >videogames mailing list (classic-videogames(a)moose.webworks.ca) or if you >have usenet access, on rec.games.video.classic. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Francois Auradon. Visit the SANCTUARY at http://home.att.net/~francois.auradon

28 years, 2 months

TRW Acquisitions

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<an Intel Multibus Single Board Computer 80/10A, and an Intel Multibus 80/ <card of some sort. The only reason I picked up the Intel Multibus board the 80/10a was a multibus 8080 card. I have a few but they are fried. When I get crazy I'll fix them. The 80/10 desn't date from '76 though the '76 is the date intel trademarked the MULTIBUS name. Allison

28 years, 2 months

Stupid bus tricks

by allisonp＠world.std.com

FROM: maxskin(a)hotmail.com; <make the computer do TCP/IP via serial or parallel port? So, could you <please tell me, COULD I STICK A RIBBON CABLE INTO TWO DIFFERENT <MOTHERBOARDS AND PRETEND THAT THE MBs ARE CARDS OF EACH OTHER? Max I answered the question and you didn't understand. ----> NO!!! YOU CAN NOT. <---- Doing that would have the two opposing CPUs competing without any way to resolve that nondestructively. That last word is important and the logic that drives those busses is strong enough that if one were to assert a logic 1 and the other a logic 0 the result literally would be smoke. Allison

28 years, 2 months

Stupid bus tricks

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

you asked for an straightforward answer? it's NO. In a message dated 98-02-02 17:49:20 EST, you write: << >>Could I attach two PC motherboards (ISA? PS/2? PCI? EISA? NuBUS? >>Others?) together via a ribbon cable by the bus connectors and then >>transfer data among them, of course having written the approporiate >>drivers? >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com For one thing, please answer the question without going into philosophy. The other is that I am looking not to transfer files, etc. but for a way to have two computers share information a la multiproc. systems. >>

28 years, 2 months

Interesting Find

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 98-02-02 17:09:25 EST, you write: << >Didn't the IBM Portable (or convertible...whatever) do that? I seem to recall that the convertible (the laptop) had a printer available that attached to the rear, although iirc, right side up and ready to print. (It connected directly through an expansion port on the back of the computer.) >> uncle is right, the pc convertible has a small printer that connects right to the back of the computer, and other options can plug into it. it can print on thermal paper, and print on regular paper i think too. i found the printer for my convertible at a thrift store for $1. talk about lucky! david

28 years, 2 months

TI 99/4A Exp. Box

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

Last week (while running around trying do recover from a disk crash) I picked up a TI 99/4a Expansion Box. Has a couple of cards and a (loose) disk drive, but to be honest, I haven't even had a chance to take it out of my girlfriend's trunk (too much sh*t going down lately). Anything interesting that might be in there? Did I do good at $15 (with some elec. screwdriver bits thrown in)? Any info is appreciated! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 2 months

Future Services & Events from the Vintage Technology Cooperative

by dastar＠wco.com

I just thought I'd give yous guys a sneak peek of some of the things I am working on... The Vintage Computer Festival v2.0 - the continuation of the legacy! ;) This year's show will be bigger and better than the first. More vendors, a bigger exhibition, more great speakers and workshops, more more more! Tentatively scheduled for late summer. Keep your eyes open for further announcements. The First Vintage Computer Festival Auction - you won't want to miss this. There will be a bunch of incredible stuff auctioned off this spring to help fund VCF 2.0. Check the VCF web page (www.siconic.com/vcf) this May for details. A new & improved VCF web-site. Thanks to TCI's cable modem service, I'll be hosting my own internet services. Among other things, I will launch a vintage computer software archive. Online history, trivia, interviews with industry legends, a comprehensive vintage computer gallery, and a comprehensive list of links to other vintage computer sites on the web. This will become the one-stop shop for vintage computing. The Vintage Computer Collector & Trader Web BBS. This will be a BBS as was discussed a couple weeks ago in the discussion. It will provide two services. First, it will offer free advertising for those wanting to buy/sell/trade vintage computer hardware, software, literature, etc. Second, it will provide a registry for those wanting to network with other collectors around the country. Post a message describing what you want and how much you're willing to pay. Other collectors around the country scour their local flea markets, thrift stores and salvage yards looking for your requests. You work out the final details with each other. Automatic database management insures that requests stay current. Stale requests get removed automatically. The Vintage Computer Software Archives - the plan is for an FTP site with all manner of software archives for all platforms: CP/M, DOS, Unix, microcomputers (Apple, Atari, Commodore, TI, Radio Shack, etc.), mini-computers (DEC, Data General, Sun, IBM, etc.), mainframes...whatever is legal to archive and make publicly available will be there. The archived equivalents of disks, magnetic tapes, paper tapes, punch cards, whatever, will be made available for download. ALL THIS AND SO MUCH MORE! A VERITABLE NERD EXTRAVAGANZA TO SATISFY YOUR VINTAGE COMPUTER HUNGER! Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Coming Soon...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

28 years, 2 months

Fairchild Channel F

by francois.auradon＠worldnet.att.net

Hi, I found a Channel F on saturday. I'm having some problem with it: The horizontal lines are dashed. Could someone point me to a good hardware ref or help me out in troubleshooting it? Also it doesn't read the carts, I can select the internal game but the carts are not seen. Thank you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Francois Auradon. Visit the SANCTUARY at http://home.att.net/~francois.auradon

28 years, 2 months

Interesting Find

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 08:14 PM 1/30/98 -0500, you wrote: >(Sharp PC-7100) > >> printer (I've only got one) that attaches to the back for portability. > >Didn't the IBM Portable (or convertible...whatever) do that? I seem to recall that the convertible (the laptop) had a printer available that attached to the rear, although iirc, right side up and ready to print. (It connected directly through an expansion port on the back of the computer.) The Sharp PC-7100's printer tips up* to attach for portability; to use it you have to detach it, set it down, and hook up a standard printer cable. *Tips up: take your standard mx-80 or what-have-you and grab the rear corners. Lift, rotating along the front bottom edge, and stand it on the front side. Now put your lunchbox in front of it. (Well, maybe Andre the Giant's lunchbox.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 2 months

Coleco Adam pricing

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 01:25 PM 1/30/98 -0800, you wrote: >No way! Maybe $50 at the top end, but $75 is way too much. These are not [...] >someone was trying to sell one at a swap meet? What would you expect to >pay for an old-assed, obsolete computer with no current support that some >guy had lying on the ground in a parking lot? For a Coleco Adam, I'd say >that number is between $25 - $30. Well, certainly, one can always hope to find a deal. I recently paid $750 for a non-running, 1959 Land Rover with no rear wheels and last registered in 1988. The seller told me that the next day someone showed up at his door with $2000 in cash. So, yes, if you want to wait 'til you find one at a flea market, then you should be able to get one for $25-30. (Heck, I've seen 'em (missed out on 'em) for free!) But, if you want one, and you know of one for sale, with some extra parts, I don't think $75 is an unreasonable asking price. Not everyone will pay it, of course; many will wait for the flea market, but there will be those who would just as soon pay a little more to have it now. For comparison purposes, I bought my main Land Rover ("Indy") 8 years ago for $10K. It's also a '59. (Though in better shape, a long-wheelbase model, and had a few extras.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 2 months

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