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by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > I seem to remember someone saying that the DECservers are basically a > > Q-Bus PDP-11 system. Is this correct, or am I thinking of something else? > > Also, does anyone know what they're based off of and if it's possible to > > make them boot a 'conventional' os by changing their bootroms? > > The DECserver 500 and 550 are PDP-11 systems. The others > are not. And to finish answering the original question, the CPU boards are basically a PDP-11/53, and all you need to do is change the ROMs and add a disk controller. Zane

23 years, 9 months

Why I hate gitten old...

by jpl15＠panix.com

Please have vicarious fun reading what was intended to be a private reply.. sigh. I guess we all have to do this once or twice, just for Balance... I *still* like reply-to-list, no matter what... Cheers John

23 years, 9 months

Questions about Central Point Deluxe Option board

by jingber＠ix.netcom.com

Central Point Deluxe Option board: I don't recall how this card is supposed to interface with the disks. There is a card edge connector and a row of pins on the board. Does the board go inbetween the FDC and drives, or does it replace the floppy controller entirely? Any special cabling required, and can it run two drives? Thanks, Jeff

23 years, 9 months

Free VAX 11/750 (Colorado)

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Please contact Gary directly if interested. ----- Forwarded message from Gary Zilik <zilik(a)excelgeo.com> ----- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:41:49 -0600 From: Gary Zilik <zilik(a)excelgeo.com> To: mrbill(a)decvax.org Subject: Vax system We currently are doing some house cleaning and have a vax 11/750 in working condition free to a good home. Many spare parts are included. If someone can use the system it would be better than the recycle bin. Unfortuanaly we no longer have any of the manuals. -- Gary Zilik - Sr. Geophysicist Excel Geophysical Services, Inc. Email: zilik(a)excelgeo.com 8301 E. Prentice Ave., Suite 402 Phone: (303) 694-9629 Greenwood Village, CO 80111 Fax: (303) 771-1646 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

23 years, 9 months

Forth for PDP-11

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

SUCCESS!!!! > > I just realized that there is documentation included, it's in the 'sol.sd', > > so I'm going to have to pour through it. I get the distinct impression that > > it's not working the way it should, so I need to see if I've installed it > > incorrectly (the first look through makes it look like it's installed > > correctly). > > The system is getting far enough to make me think it is installed > correctly (the interpretter loop is running, for example, it's reading a > command line, and at least handling some of it). Either there are a lot > of standard words not implemented in this system (In Forth you can have > whatever words you like...), or they've got non-standard names (if that's > the case, the author needs to get a clue!), or you've not assembled one > of the source files that would include them (if they're in the manual but > not in the dictionary, this is possible), but I would have thought > there'd be undefined symbols (if only for the dictionary linkage > pointers) if that was the case. I was right it wasn't up completely. I'd booted the minimal system, but I needed to compile the rest of it. See the following. sim> b rl0 RL BOOT - OK SOL-11 0.4 COPYRIGHT (C) 2001 NILS M HOLM 10 list LIST? 10 load 8072 BYTES YOU MAY NOW TYPE SAVE-SYSTEM TO SAVE THE NEWLY CREATED KERNEL. OK save-system OK save-buffers halt > HALT instruction, PC: 010516 (JMP @(R4)+) sim> b rl RL BOOT - OK SOL-11 0.4 COPYRIGHT (C) 2001 NILS M HOLM WELCOME TO SOL KERNEL SIZE IS 8072 BYTES MEMORY SIZE IS 57344 BYTES THESE MESSAGES ARE LOADED FROM BLOCK #9. TYPE 9 LIST TO VIEW OR EDIT THIS BLOCK. THIS DISK CONTAINS THE HLL PART OF THE SOL KERNEL. TYPE 9 51 INDEX FOR A TABLE OF CONTENTS. REMEMBER TO TYPE SAVE-BUFFERS BEFORE TURNING OFF YOUR MACHINE. SOL IS READY TO TAKE COMMANDS NOW. 5 3 + . 8 OK So, as you can see, I've now got it working under SIMH. One interesting thing I've found in the sol.sd document, is that the author (Nils M Holm) views the fact that it requires EIS as a bug. Unfortunatly all the drives that this supports are up in storage, as I don't really have room for any of them in the apartment, so for the time being I'll have to play around with this under SIMH. However, it's safe to say I do want to play with it, and eventually I'd like to get it up and running on real hardware. Hmmm, I wonder if I can convince my folks to let me temporarily clean out enough of thier garage to get /44 that's buried in there fired up.... :^) Zane

23 years, 9 months

ebay deals do happen

by CordaAJ＠NSWC.NAVY.MIL

Seems like I'll have to start looking through my ancient chip supply... I seem to remember a tube of the ceramic 8080 cpus somewhere... Of course, I might accidently _flood_ the market... :-) -al- -acorda(a)1bigred.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:54 AM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: ebay deals do happen > > > At 08:35 AM 6/27/02 -0700, Sellam wrote: > > > > >The reason that Altair processor card got that amount was > not because of > >the card itself but because of the 8080 processor on it. > Apparently, a > >few chip collectors creamed their pants over it because it > was an Intel > >C8080, harboring some manner of significance to them. > > > >The buyer was "prepared to go well over $1000 for that > chip". That chip > >is apparently listed as having a value of $1,800 on one > collector's site. > > > >Gee, it's like the classic computer craze of 1999 all over again. > > > Geez, I should pull the 8080 CPUs out of my Intel MDS 800s > and hawk them. Plastic CPU would work just as well and I > could use the money :-) > > Joe >

23 years, 9 months

DEC Etherworks LC book

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Didn't know this, but I found it among my Apple II stuff, and if anyone wants it, give me a US snail address and it's yours. Looks like an early ethernet card for PCs. Gary Hildebrand ST. Joseph, MO

23 years, 9 months

AT&T UNIX goodness

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Cleaned out the closet yesterday (so the HVAC guys could get into the attic). Found the following: AT&T 3B2 Computer - UNIX System V Release 3 User's and System Administrator's Reference Manual (in hardbound slipcase) and (I thought I'd lost it - sold it to a list member a year or so ago, then misplaced the disks and refunded their money) AT&T UNIX System V/386 Release 3.2 (complete distribution on 1.44M floppies, with development kit as well - these were new in shrinkwrap when I got them) Anybody have a need for any of the above? Will trade for other nifty things. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

23 years, 9 months

OT: help request, ereg function in PHP

by foo＠siconic.com

Any PHP g00r00s out there able to help with the ereg function in PHP? No amount of searching the online docs or the web turns up a similar problem as I am having (not properly parsing whitespace). It almost seems like there's a problem with my PHP server code. Please respond off-list to <sellam(a)vintage.org>. Thanks! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 9 months

Classic Computer Spider

by mythtech＠mac.com

>She's about 3 inches in diameter. Maybe not the biggest you've ever seen, >but pretty much the biggest that's ever come out of my garage. I get at least one that size a year in the fire stair well next to my office (where I store most of my good computer parts... it pays to be friends with the local fire inspector). Although the ones I get don't look like that. Rather they are all black, with thinner legs (not quite as menacing looking, mine look like over grown black house spiders). But it was funny when the exterminator couldn't get one to die last year. He sprayed and sprayed, and the thing just kept relocating. He claimed the stuff should have killed it on contact (and it seemed to kill all other insects on contact). After about 8 squirts he gave up and stepped on it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 9 months

Semi-OT: Sony Data Discman

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> From the Obsolete-At-Birth department: I've got this old Sony Electronic Book > Player, aka Data Discman. Model # DD-8. Unlike all the others I've seen, it does > not fold shut -- it's like an old Gameboy, only bigger. I think it may be a very > old model, but I dunno. Wow! I remember these, they've got to be close to 12-15 years old based on where I remember seeing them. I thought they were really cool, but support for them was way to limited, and they cost way to much for me to afford at the time. Finally with my Sony Clie, I've got a usable electronic book (of course it still cost to much). > My brother has the exact same model, same vintage (we each got one as a gift 10 > years ago or whenever it was) and his apparently does the same thing. In both > cases, the player was working fine, and it got put away on a closet shelf (no > batteries) -- then a few months later, we go to use it and discover mysterious > screen death. In other words, they weren't dropped or overheated or anything > obvious like that, as far as we know. I can't help, but I've seen almost the exact same problem with the original Nintendo Gameboy's. I've had two of the originals, and in both cases, I put them up without batteries, and when I went to use them the next time, sizeable portions of the screen wouldn't display anything (entire vertical lines). Zane

23 years, 9 months

[OT?] IBM PS 850 RAM

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I'm fairly certain this doesn't meet the 10-year rule, but since I don't have any other good ideas of where to ask, I'll ask here. I'm trying to find a source for some more memory for my IBM PC Power Station 850, and was wondering if anyone has some available or new of a cheap source. I'd prefer 16M or 32M sticks, but could deal with 8M sticks, I just want to have a bit more than 32M of memory to try and run on. I've found that kingston lists 16MB sticks for $39 or 32MB for $50, but I'd prefer not to spend >$1/meg for it if possible. Used is ok, new is better if possible, but I'm sure much more expensive. Worst case, there's 4 sticks of 8M up on ebay for a decent price I might bid on, but I'd really prefer bigger than 8MB sticks. -- Pat

23 years, 9 months

What's a Convergence Technologies Series 186

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Hi. This was my birthday present, and a nice one indeed. It's so cool I can't find it at all on Google. It's a little modular desktop, the CPU unit & drive unit (5.25 floppy and 10M hard drive) are separate units, latched together. Each has its own external PSU. The display looks like a proprietary serial terminal, powered off the main unit on the DB25 connector. The keyboard plugs into the display base. On front it says "Series 186" on the system module and "Hard Drive" on the drive unit. The stickers on bottom have Model numbers "CP-001/9 AA" and "HD-002 AD" respectively. Both tags say "For use with N-GEN systems" It powers up, runs through a batch job that I don't recognise - $JOB blah blah $RUN blah blah $RUN blah blah and ends up at a login prompt that I can't go around. It claims to be a "BaronData Transcription System" running (OS t1stndmp 9.7X) or OZ 4.1. If I can find a v3 or v4 DOS disk, should this guy boot from it? I want to preserve the OS on it, but I also want to log in. Doc

23 years, 9 months

Apple IIgs/65816/65802 reference/programming books for trade/donation

by Menzu＠aol.com

Hello there, my name is Nathan, and I'm very interested in your books by Michael Fischer "65816/65802 ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE PROGRAMMING" of course being as if you haven't given it away or traded it away already. If not, please respond soon. Though I've got nothing really to give you (except the ultimate evil that is cash) we can hopefully work something out. Nathan Ivey (Menzu(a)aol.com)

23 years, 9 months

[CCTECH] Book Deal in Houston

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

A new local bookstore here is selling brand new copies of Fire in the Valley second edition (soft cover) for $5. I purchased mine from Amazon awhile back along with the hardcover collector's edition with a CD. The lady said they may get the hardcover edition in and it would be about $10.

23 years, 9 months

ebay deals do happen

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Erik S. Klein" <classiccmp(a)mail.vintage-computer.com> > >"That chip is apparently listed as having a value of $1,800 >on one collector's site." > >Wow. I had no idea that was the reason for the high bid. >And to think, I've (theoretically) got $3,600 in two chips >at home. . . > >Hmmmm. > > Erik > Hi You realize that these need to be early C8080 and not C8080A or i8080 anything like that. I wonder if this might have something to do with the NASA buys? Dwight

23 years, 9 months

Fw: Latest Finds in Houston

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Really? That's pretty cool. That's novel: a play being inspired by a >computer game :) What was it about? Don't remember the name of the game, but it was the Dracula vampire's castle one (which I can't remember for sure was a Scott Adams adventure, but I believe it was). Basically, it was a play, with the basic plot line of the adventure, but with a few characters rather than just the one person as per the game. I was young, it was my first play, so there wasn't much creativity to coming up with my own story line. And my never finished text adventure was shockingly similar to the Mac graphical adventure Deja Vu. Of course, I started work on mine LONG before I knew about Deja Vu (long before I am sure it was even considered, since I started mine before the Mac came out). I remember getting Deja Vu and calling a friend that had worked on the story of mine with me. We were very surprised at how similar they were. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 9 months

[CCTECH] Two Great Finds Today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Went to a auction today and got alot of stuff real cheap. Tow of the things that I really liked were a digital DECpc 333 portable and a Vectrex game console. I have yet to get into everything as it filled the van and had to leave stuff after running out of room to load it.

23 years, 9 months

Fw: Latest Finds in Houston

by mythtech＠mac.com

>>Wasn't that Voodoo Castle or something? >Yes... thank you, I think that was it. Ack... no, I was wrong (and thus you were wrong), it was "The Count". Sorry. (I realized this when I did a search for Scott Adams, and turned up his site. I then downloaded the classic games for the Palm Pilot, and noticed it included The Count, which immediately jumped to me as the correct game my play was based off) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 9 months

Fw: Latest Finds in Houston

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Wasn't that Voodoo Castle or something? Yes... thank you, I think that was it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 9 months

Palladium and classic computing

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink(a)verizon.net> wrote: > This Palladium stupidity won't fly. Remember how people > howled when Intel put unique IDs into their processors? Yep. And what happened as a result? -Frank McConnell

23 years, 9 months

final brainteaser for the day

by meltie＠myrealbox.com

Can you describe all the PDP OSen and variants out there? *grins* Alex -- Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance like no-one is watching.

23 years, 9 months

NewTek Video Toasters for Amigas

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Finally got them all checked, and they all work, so they are up for grabs here before going to e-greed. These are Toaster 2000 cards, for Amiga 2000's (won't fit in 3k or 4k without major hacking). Software and books not included, but I can get some copies. NewTek still has the copyright, see them first. Asking $150 per card, or equivalent in trading stock. I'm looking for: 4 gig or bigger Fast SCSI-2 drives, SCSI-3 (68 pin) would be okay if it has an adapter Other Amiga stuff, especially KEYBOARDS, accelerator cards, or other graphics cards. Complete Amigas except for A1000's. Amiga A1200 tower case with Zorro bus included I had several inquiries when I firt got these, you might drop me another e-mail off-list if you are interested or have something to trade. Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO

23 years, 9 months

Palladium and classic computing

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink(a)verizon.net> wrote: > Basically, the ID in the PIII is disabled by all standard BIOSs... AWARD, > etc. (although it can be enabled by software) and, in any Pentium 1.5GHz or > faster, there is no ID or supporting circuits in the silicon. It's this "it can be enabled by software" bit that I was getting at. As I remember it, there was a great hue and cry from privacy advocates, Intel said "look, we'll make it disabled by default, and give people software they can use to turn it on", and the privacy advocates said "well, then, that's OK" and got quiet. Hello? If I can run some software to enable ID reporting, why wouldn't any closed-source software provider who really wants to know just have their software enable ID reporting, get the ID, then restore/disable ID reporting to cover its tracks? Anyway, it looks like something did happen: it got little enough use that Intel dropped the feature. Or...maybe they just see that something even better for this purpose is coming. -Frank McConnell

23 years, 9 months

DEC Vax 6000-310

by blue＠intrnet.net

I have a DEC Vax 6000-310 I have to sell. If interested, please email... blue(a)intrnet.net

23 years, 9 months

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