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by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I'm in need of a couple MMJ (to MMJ) cables and some MMJ-to-DB9 and MMJ-to-DB25 adapters. I'd like to avoid paying Blackbox $8/ea for the cables if possible Length is unimportant, heck, 3" or 6" will work, I just need to turn MMJ into DB9 or DB25. (I'm borrowing one from Doc for the VT1200 right now, and need to return his soon) The VT1200 and VRE01 is *beautiful*, but I also need a pair of 10b2 T-connectors and some terminators before I can get it on the network (picked up a D-Link hub with 10b2 on back today at Goodwill for $11). Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

23 years, 9 months

[CCTECH] It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Note that the buyer is from Italy. After reading the feedback He is a collector. Paxton Astoria, OR Sorry for the blank email. My fingers were too quick.

23 years, 9 months

[CCTECH] It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/7/02 9:15:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, celt(a)chisp.net writes: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2034952824

23 years, 9 months

Sept. 85 BYTE article needed

by rcini＠optonline.net

> Hello, all: > > I'm looking for an article in the September 1985 issue of BYTE on > the EGO Homebrewed CPU (Part 1) by Clifford Kelley. I have part 2, but > not part 1. > > Please contact me off-list if someone has it and can scan it for me. > Thanks. > > Rich > > Rich Cini > Collector of classic computers > Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project > Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ > /************************************************************/ > >

23 years, 9 months

Free: Sony NEWS workstation (Austin, TX)

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got a Sony NEWS workstation (keyboard, system unit, and external SCSI tape drive) free for pickup in Austin, TX. Its a NWS-841. I no longer have the monitor for the unit (has a 3W3 connector on the back; monitor was a GDM-1962B-style), but I do have the keyboard (in original box, no mouse) and external tape drive (uses a Centronics-style SCSI-I cable). Has a floppy drive (with yellow plastic drive protector) and even still has the red "caps" covering some of the I/O ports in back. It looks very unused, but its been years since I tried to power it up; I dont even remember anymore where I got it from. Best specs I've been able to find on it: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=NWS-841&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=24800002%… " There was a short blurb about the new Sony workstations in INFOWORLD (Feb 1, 1988 page 3, "AT DEADLINE"). ...Internally called the "Sun Killer," the NWS-841 will sport two 16-MHz 68020 microprocessors, a 68881 math coprocessor, 8M of RAM, a 286- MB floppy drive, six I/O ports, including an EtherNET interface, one rep. said. The machine will sell for about $19,900. Supported software will include BSD4.2, NFS, and X. " Anyway, if anybody is interested, let me know. I'd like to get this out of the way, but dont want to scrap it. It just must go to a good home. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

23 years, 9 months

Swap meet failure

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

Tried a Swap meet in Ottawa today. Most people misunderstand the meaning of swap. There were more machines on my driveway after the event that when it started. Traded 2 small case fans for cash, and a partial HP 9000/715 for a Cromemco system 3, 2 apple II clones, a TI 99, 3 HP external disk drives, a few commodore 64's and a bunch of documentation . Left behind was a MAC PLUS, LC II, LC III, ACER ?? all with monitors, a few external scsi boxes, and socket 7 mobo's. On my door step last night was a TRS 80 model III and a Commodre 128, And the night before I picked up a SGI personal iris and a compaq contura aero. And my favorite scrapper has a commodore SX-64 in the back. All in all a good week, but the next swap will have to be on someone elses drive way I no longer have space to have another.

23 years, 9 months

Some Vacation Finds

by univac2＠earthlink.net

Well, I went to a glorified scrap yard today, and picked up some neat stuff, and left some neater stuff behind. Other than a VT100, I got only books. The neatest one being DEC's "Introduction To Minicomputer Networks". Being on vacation and having limited hauling capacity I had to leave behind: MicroVAX 3500 DECserver 500 Some kind of IBM RS/6000 thingy Quite a bit of Sun stuff, some SparcStation 1/2s, keyboards, monitors, etc... Some newer DEC stuff and some misc old equipment like printing terminals, a Magnetic Tape Selectric, and a ton of Apple stuff. IBM Office System 6 - I remember reading a little about this. It's like a small desk with two 8" floppy drives and a selectric keyboard, basically. I would really like to get this if possible. Anyone know anything about it? I hope to make it back over here in my truck someday. -- Owen Robertson

23 years, 9 months

Free: Amiga 1080 monitor (Austin)

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got an Amiga 1080 RGB-or-Composite-input monitor, free for pickup in Austin, TX. Works great; I've been using it as the preview monitor (and to watch TV on) off a VCR for a few months now.. but its just too big and too bulky and puts out too much heat for what I use it for - so I'm gonna try to find a normal TV set to use for that stuff (or even one of the little 3" black and white models). Any leads on that appreciated 8-) Anyway, Amiga 1080. Works fine. Pick it up and its yours. (BTW, sticker on back says mfg. 01/96). Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

23 years, 9 months

RS/6000 580

by pat＠purdueriots.com

YAY! I've got it partially IPLing off of the drives that came out of my 55L. It seems to halt with a message of '552' - IPL Varyon falied. Does anyone know enough IBM-speak to tell me what that means? Aparently, the problem it was having earlier with powering off automagically was caused by the power supply thinking a fan was broken - once I fixed that problem, it magically started doing stuff again. I'm about to try booting in service mode with a set of diagnostic disks and see if I can figure anything else out. One more thing -- I'm still getting just a black picture out of the video card, like I was with the 5%L. Does anyone know if that's what it should be doing, or if something there is amiss, too? I've got a 'real' rs/6000 keyboard and mouse hooked up to the system this time, and haven't tried booting with a serial terminal yet. Thanks for any help. -- Pat

23 years, 9 months

SGI's first MIPS workstation

by red＠bears.org

I recall this was the subject of some debate earlier. I dug up a primary source last night, and offer the following article from the Summer 1987 edition of IRIS Universe: "announcing the IRIS 4D/60 turbo option" In March, Silivon Graphics demonstrated its commitment to being the undisputed leader in the superworkstation market by introducing the IRIS 4D/60, the industry's first RISC-based superworkstation. This new product introduction generated more interest and excitement than any other single event in Silicon Graphics' history. Certainly a major reason for the industry's excitement is the IRIS 4D/60's premier graphics performance. Equally important, however, is the new RISC and floating point technology incorporated in the IRIS 4D/60. Users' response to this level of computing performance from the RIS 4D/60 continues to be very enthusiastic. Now, four months after the introduction of the IRIS 4D/60, Silicon Graphics once again leads the industry by introducint the IRIS 4D/60 Turbo Option, a high-performance computing upgrade for the IRIS 4D/60 Superworkstation. By integrating the latest in RISC and floating point technoloyg, the IRIS 4D/60 Turbo Option breaks both the 10 MIPS and 1 MFLOPS performance barriers! While the IRIS 4D/60 is already the best all-around performer in its price range, the integer and floating point performance of the new Turbo Option make this upgrade truly phenomenal. The IRIS 4D/60 Turbo Option incorporates a 12.5 MHz RISC CPU, 50 percent faster than the 8 MHz CPU introduced with the IRIS 4D/60. This CPU is tightly coupled with a new single-chip floating point coprocessor. By using custom VLSI technology, the the [sic]Turbo Option increases the floating point performance of the IRIS 4D/60 by a factor of three. The Turbo Option's new CPU board also includes cache memory, up to 16 Mbytes of on board CPU memory, and an interface to SCSI peripherals. By having all of the major components of the CPU architecture on a single board, the rate of data transfer between components is significantly improved, thereby maximizing system performance. The IRIS 4F/60 Turbo Option employs a dual-cache architecture incorporating 64 Kbytes of instruction cache plus 32 Kbytes of data cache. The dual cache architecture increases system performance byholding large portions of the application program in efficient cache memory, and ensures that instructions and data will not compete for the same cache locations. This architecture improves performance of large applications by reducint the time required to access instructions and data. How fast is fast? Using the Dhrystone benchmark, the industry standard for measuring integer computing performance, an IRIS 4D/60 with the Turbo Option leads the superworkstation pack at 10 MIPS (ten times a VAX 11/780). Using the Linpack benchmark to measure floating point performance, the Turbo Option performs 1.1 million double precision floating point operations per second (1.1 MFLOPS). In addition to theis significatn boost in computing performance, Silicon Graphics announces support for advanced lighting models on the IRIS 4D/60, with or without the Turbo Option. Both infinite and local light sources are supported, including attenuation of local light sources with distance >from the source. Diffuse and specular (Phong) lighting are also supported, and up to eight colored light sources may be modeled simultaneously. The Turbo Option may be purchased as a field installable upgrade for the IRIS 4D/60. Please contact your local sales representative. -- typos solely my responsibility. ok r.

23 years, 9 months

Scrap Hard Drive & PC Card Prices?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/6/02 7:31:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, marvin(a)rain.org writes: > I was offered about $0.15 per pound for the hard drives a while ago and > $1.00 per pound for the circuit boards. Since I probably have about 500 > - 1000 pounds of drives and cards, it is something worth looking into > :). Right now, this excess is too much of a distraction and slows down > getting other stuff done. Additionally, I've been throwing out stuff > (non computer related) and saving the gold connectors, gold plated > boards, etc. without any idea of what it might be worth. Time to find > out :). > Those are good prices on your scrap. Aluminum Breakage (Hard Drives) is about 16 cents a pound and cards run from 40 cents to $2 per pound depending on the age and how heavy the gold plate it. Cut fingers go for more. HP gold plated boards go for $3 to $3.50 per pound. Ask your scrapper how to sort your cards for maximum value. Remove all Aluminum and Iron for maximum value. There are several chip recyclers out there also who will pay a premium if the cards have chips they want to pull for resale. Many scrappers will buy small quantities. I could direct you to one in Portland, OR but I think you can find one locally. Paxton Astoria, OR

23 years, 9 months

WTD: Microtan 65 info

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi, I'm looking for a copy (scanned or otherwise) of the Microtan 65 mainboard schematic and a copy of the Microtan 65 parts list. I'm planning to adapt the video circuitry to a 6502-based computer I'm currently building. Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/

23 years, 9 months

LSI-11/2

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>I'm betting it's as small as QBUS comes. It's a Q/Q backplane, with 4 >quad-with slots. However, I could stick it into the backplane for my >VAXstation 3200, which should be 22-bit Q/Q for most of the backplane >(perhaps Q/CD for the top three quad-width slots). Doesn't make sense to put it in the 22-bit backplane if the processor and memory can't use it... The backplane you have is fine... >OK, well, I have an 11/2 CPU and not an 11/73 CPU. If you want to >donate an 11/73 CPU, I'd be happy to take it off your hands. :) :-) Fine... an 11/23 (KDF11-A) will work there as well... and if you don't have that or can't get it, the 11/2 is fine to get the machine going. >The 'MSCP ESDI' board, part # "SCD-RQD11/EC" (I guess it's not a DEC >part, even though it says "MFG UNDER LICENSE FROM DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORP" >on the back, is in my VAXstation 3200, and runs a pair of 600MB-650MB >drives that appear to be ESDI. I've got a DECNA (i think) network >adaptor in my VS3200 I could try to use. Right now, I'm wanting to try >and re-use hardware I have instead of search for hardware that is hard to >find. Okay, it isn't DEC... and is ESDI... great... you have disks (do you have a floppy to attach to it so that you can install software?) The DECNA is for the PRO series of machines... you need a DEQNA or DELQA... since you are going to be running PDP-11 OSes, the DEQNA should be fine if you can get one. If you can't, you will still have a workable machine. >Also, is it possible/easy to change the M8044-BB board (8KW?) to have at >least 16KW if not 32KW of memory? That'd be a nice upgrade for the >machine if I can do it myself with 'stock' DRAMs. Yes, you can replace the M8044-B with an M8044-C (for 16kw) or M8044-D (for 32kw). The above parts are fine, but you still need a boot board (REV-11) and a serial line unit (DLV11 or, better, a DLV11-J). If you can find an MXV11-B, you can add its memory to that of the M8044-B you already have and get up to 24kw plus two serial lines and boot code which will boot from MSCP type disks (as well as code for DX, DY, and DL). Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: gentry at zk3.dec.com (work) | | Unix Support Engineering Group | mbg at world.std.com (home) | | Hewlett Packard | (s/ at /@/) | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

23 years, 9 months

Qbus, ISA cards free plus shipping

by fernande＠internet1.net

Free plus the cost of shipping. -3 M8043 DLVJ1-M Q 4-Line Asynchronous Interface -1 M7504 DEQNA-M Q Qbus to ethernet adapter, Q22, obsolete for VMS 5.x and above (use DELQA). -1 M7165 KDA50-Q Q Qbus SDI disk adapter, Q22 (2 of 2) (QDA SDI) -1 M7602 VCB01, QVSS Q Qbus Video Sub System module for Q22 systems (uVAX I, II) -1 M8061 RLV12 Q RL01/RL02 disk control -1 Adaptec 1542B ISA SCSI card -1 Western Digital VGA 8/16 ISA card 256K -1 IBM serial/parallel card 8-bit ISA NS16450N UART -1 Maxtor MXT-540S scsi drive made for IBM FRU 92F0406 540mb -1 IBM WDS-380 scsi drive 80mb -1 generic PC floppy cable If I've promised you cards before, please accept my apologies for not shipping yet. I'll have things boxed soon. I was working a lot of hours, and got behind with everything else. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

23 years, 9 months

11/70 in VA

by root＠parse.com

I've stumbled across a PDP-11/70 in VA (+1 540 area code). It has a tape associated with it. I'm not sure how much they want, but I believe that I'll be getting some 11/70's closer to home (which are already spoken for :-)). I currently have a person who is #1 on the list for the system, and his #1 priority expires on Monday. I'm looking for a #2 person to give the system to (if my #1 doesn't want it). Any takers? Also, anyone have any PDP stuff they're getting rid of (perhaps the novelty has worn off?) :-) Cheers, -RK -- Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com

23 years, 9 months

FREE STUFF in Austin, TX

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got some FREE STUFF in Austin, Texas. Only thing is, you *HAVE* to pick it up, *IN PERSON*. I"m tired of people saying they'll arrange something, have someone come by, etc. Its up for grabs for the first person who shows up and can actually put this stuff to use, or emails me with a *convincing* reason why I should hold/ship it for them and has something to trade for what they want. First batch, some Sun VME boards and a 4/6x0 memory board: http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/freestuff/ (pictures) (the DELNI and the GRiD laptops are spoken for) Some of the cards are FDDI: http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/fddi/ (pictures) Second, a Toshiba T3100 orange-plasma-screen laptop. CMOS battery is dead, but it works fine if you have a DOS boot disk and put the time in manually. Makes a GREAT serial console for a *NIX machine: http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/laptop/ (pictures) (well, its more of a "portable"; it only takes AC power and is rather heavy.. if you've seen "Medicine Man" with Sean Connery, one of these is the machine he's using in his "lab" IIRC...) Third, I have a pair of IBM P70 portable (486?) systems with orange plasma displays. When I got these, one powered up but gave a "bad HD" error code, one didnt power up at all. I attempted to swap out the hard drives between the two, but after I tried that, neither would power up. I beleive they are both missing the back system cover, but would be great for replacement parts to keep another P70 running. Fourth, I have an IBM PC Convertible laptop, with dual 720K floppy drives, LCD screen (of course), battery pack, and the I/O-port "pack", in original IBM canvas carry case. Last time I fired it up (early '99?) the backlight was intermittent, but otherwise everything worked fine. Great keyboard; might make a good serial console for something. Again, free, but you must pick these up in Austin, TX, at my house. I will NOT ship anything (unless you have a REALLY good trade offer, and pay for shipping). If you want something held, you will have to trade me something interesting for what you want. I'm tired of people telling me "oh, I'll pick those up soon" or "I'll have $relative who lives near there contact you", etc. First come, first serve. I need this stuff out of the way, but its too good to trash.. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

23 years, 9 months

Trying to thin things out via Ebay

by fernande＠internet1.net

I've listed a few auctions on Ebay. If your anyplace besides the US or Canada please let me know ahead of time, if you'd like to bid. http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=fernande&i… Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

23 years, 9 months

FT: TI Silent 700 terminal

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got a TI Silent 700 portable thermal printing terminal (has 300 baud modem, acoustic coupler cups, etc)... but this isnt just *any* Silent 700 (model 765): This has the bubble memory expansion (which from what I understand, is rather rare). On a sticker inside the paper compartment: DATA ACCESS SYSTEMS, INC - HOUSTON Servide 713-682-6820 Sales 713-682-5965 Model # TI 765 Serial # 04766-17603 DASI OPTION VENDOR 1B07 80 K. MEM KIT II 1B10 (CHAR MAP.) Last time I fired this up a couple of years ago, it worked, although the thermal print head either needed cleaning or replacing - a pin was "missing" in some of the output. I didnt have time, at the time, to take it apart and clean it or diagnose the problem. Has the "snap-on-top" cover with carrying handle, etc. Cover was the victim of some slight paint overspray (white) when we painted part of this room, but no paint got on the unit itself. The cover only got slightly dusted on one corner; it may come off with rubbing alcohol. Would like to swap for something else interesting. I had two of these (the other didnt have all the spiffy options), and gave the other away a year or so ago... I just dont have room for this anymore, and would like to see it go to a good home. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

23 years, 9 months

[CCTECH] PC board storage

by edick＠idcomm.com

If you're talking assembled and working boards, you probably want to put them in static-dissipative (primary) packaging and put that in antistatic (secondary) packaging that's capable of protecting them mechanically. The totes aren't all they're cracked up to be unless you have a way of sealing them. The "nickel" bags as primary packaging with pink-poly (non-static-generating) secondary packaging to protect them from physical trauma and the whole thing in a sturdy box together with other similarly packaged and protected boards should do the trick. A little dessicant to prevent condensation inside the primary packaging is helpful as well. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Cini, Richard <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> To: 'CCLTech' <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, July 01, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: [CCTECH] PC board storage >Hello, all: > > I'm seeking opinions on long-term PC board storage. Is it better for >longer term storage of "classic" boards to individually pack them in "metal >out" static bags and store them in conventional cardboard boxes or should I >buy a few static dissipative cardboard boxes or Bentron plastic totes and >store the boards there? > >Rich > >_______________________________________________ >cctech mailing list >cctech(a)classiccmp.org >http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech >

23 years, 9 months

LSI-11/2

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I've got an embeded syatem based around an LSI-11/2 processor board, M8044-BB (8KW?) memory, pair of DRV-11's, a MDB eprom board and ADC board. What do I need to do to make this into a functional PDP-11? I've got a DEC MSCP ESDI controller (don't remeber the part #), DLV-11 (8-port version) serial card, TQK50, and drives from my VAXstation 3200 I can try to use in it. It's from my DPE 5000, the video part of which let out a bunch of magic smoke being powered on - can't find any obvious burned parts, but haven't checked the power supply yet. Still, it's worth more to me as a LSI(PDP)-11 than a video effects box that I can't fix. First, however, I'm sure I need DEC boot roms for it, or some other way to get boot code into it. Does anyone happen to have some laying around they could maybe send me an image of? Also, I'm on the lookout for a RLV12 and berg cable to connect to the RL02 I have sitting around here.. Any ideas/help would be appreciated, and thanks in advance. -- Pat

23 years, 9 months

IDT Screenmax System

by donm＠cts.com

Does anyone have any knowledge of a machine put out by Industrial Data Terminals back in the '80s that was called the IDT Screenmax System. It was a non-standard unit that utilized a hard drive, single 5" floppy, and bubble memory to be a custom video design package. The unit in question was used to create industrial process control screens. IDT was taken over by Cutler Hammer Automation and when the unit failed in service recently it was returned to them for repair. They replaced the hard drive, did not install CP/M-86 to make it bootable, and proceeded to lose the master diskettes that they had requested be sent with the unit.

23 years, 9 months

What is this item?

by jingber＠ix.netcom.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2036592395 Seller claims it's a "Hardware Service Unit". Looks like a 5161 expansion unit to me. I assume this is something else, since the expansion unit is clearly marked as such on the IBM logo. (?) Jeff

23 years, 9 months

Interesting adware PDF utilities

by jfoust＠threedee.com

Apropos the endless discussions about the best ways to convert docs to electronic form, http://www.pdf995.com/ . - John

23 years, 9 months

DPE 5000

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I just picked up a Quantel Limited DPE-5000 video switcher. You ask how this relates to computers? The interface box is an LSI-11/02 with 4KW of RAM. Wahoo! Does anyone have more info on this thing? It has an 'interface unit' - the LSI-11/02 in a 2U 19" rack case, 4 Q/Q quad-wide slots, some control boxes, cables, and a big switcher unit that is about 14" tall and 19" wide (might be rack mount using slide rails that I didn't get because they were broken. Any info would be appreciated, thanks! Also, if anyone needs one of these, I might be willing to part with it for a decent amount of money - a bit more than a few tens of dollars. -- Pat

23 years, 9 months

big IBM on Ebay??

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Ethan Dicks > > --- g(a)kurico.com wrote: > > Looks like an AT&T logo on the front. Probably an NCR if it has MCA > > slots. > > > > George > > > > On 3 Jul 2002 at 2:37, Chad Fernandez wrote: > > > > > Don't really know what it is, but it claims to have MCA slots?? > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2036499330 > > ISTR "3555" is a model of NCR box. We used them when I was at Lucent > (they were bought before AT&T "trivested" into AT&T, NCR and Lucent). > > They typically run SYSVr4, but I was told that you _could_ boot them > to DOS and play DOOM on them (I didn't ask ;-) > > Big ones like that were MCA. Newer NCR servers were 1/3 the size and > PCI. I think most of ours were quad Pentium-90 boxes.... > > __________________________________________________ > Pretty neat box. Quad Pentium 133 with 256 MB of RAM? Just how much RAM could that beast take? It'd be quite the conversation piece as a workstation running NetBSD (or something) and XWindows... 8-) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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