>>ADSS V5A is already availbale for SIMH though.
>>
>> -- hbp
>
>It is? Where?
>
> Zane
>
It was on http://simh.trailing-edge.com/, I can't seem to get to the site
right now. The image was recently switched because macro wasn't working
correctly on the previous one (sorted out by Hans, thanks). It now should be
a copy of my tape s2.tu56 PDP-15 Master Tape S2 Page Mode (V5A Jan 24 1981)
The site also had instruction on how to boot it.
The rest of the pdp-9/15 tapes I have read are in
ftp://ftp.pdp8.net/pdp9-15/
I don't have an actual 9/15 to run them on. Anybody have a spare? Not all
seemed to work with the emulator.
Nice to hear the machine is running again.
David Gesswein
http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights.
"Geoff Roberts" <geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au> wrote:
> A friend in the states has acquired a Vax 7000-620. Looking for schematics
> or some info on the power supplies with a
> view to conversion to single phase. ISTR someone here had a 7000, can
> anyone help?
I have one here, but I also have 3-phase. :-/
Sorry, no schematics on a 7000 power supply available. No schematics
whatsoever actually.
I do have full schematics on the PDP-11/70 on the other hand. :-)
Johnny
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt(a)update.uu.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Found a IIc+ the other day at the thrift store, someone screwed up, it was
only
marked $7something. Had a mouse attached to it, and it wasn't until I
got it home that I noticed it was an optical mouse. Mfgr'd by Mouse Systems
(or rather, `in Singapore for Mouse Systems'), the model number is
403009-001, and printed underneath it is `MSC 403009-1' and `S/N:EK
030724'. It seems that the IIc+
will take the older DE9 style Mac mice, so this might be for one of those.
Does this little guy need a fancy pad? Also, any pointers to IIc+ specific
sites? I'm googling, but I'd appreciate any hints.
Bob
Hello,
Just wanted to introduce myself. I collect older computers, mainly mini's
and Unix workstations. I have stuff from most of the companies that made any
of the above types of computers. I enjoy getting machines that work, or are
close to working, and actually using them. I also enjoy working with older
versions of Operating Systems and software. My ultimate goal is to get a
network of machines together and available to the Internet for others with
the same interest to access and enjoy.
I've just recently moved to the Dallas/Fort Worth area of Texas so if there
are any other collectors/hobbyists in the area I would love to talk to you!
Please send me an email and we'll chat about the hobby and maybe we can do
some trades.
Thanks,
Mike N.
mlnealey(a)earthlink.net
P.S. I believe this post should be on topic because I am over 10 years old.
One of the well-known two-edged factors in collecting like we do is
the fact that all your friends/neighbors/colleagues/family decide you're
a better option than Goodwill. "Don't throw out that rusty 3.5" floppy
drive! Doc _collects_ that stuff!"
So when one of said friends makes a beeline for me at the meeting this
morning, and says "I heve a TRUNK FULL of stuff for you!" I just smile
and say "Oh, cool!" She's really excited about giving me this stuff....
We go out to her car and, yep. Four desktop floppy storage boxes. An
obviously dead, stripped Deskjet 520. Random power cables and phone
cords. An AT keyboard, sans most of the caps.
And then, O. My. Gods.
Two complete and apparently perfect Texas Instruments "Silent 700"
data terminals. One is roughly the shape of, and a little bigger than,
a Zenith 286 portable with built-in acoustic coupler, and the other is
smaller, in a soft carrying case, with external coupler and I think
those are two spare battery packs.
All righty then! I never had an actual printing terminal before.
This looks like hours and hours of frust^H^H^H^H, um, fun.
Doc
On Aug 29, 18:19, Jeff Hellige wrote:
> >Later Indys, and O2/Octane/Origin/Onyx2 and the like, were sold with a
PS/2
> >mouse made by Logitek. It's a rebadged 3-button Pilot mouse (equivalent
> >Logitek type M-S35), also granite coloured, part no 063-0009-001.
>
> I also have a rebadged Logitech mouse, model# M-S43, SGI
> part# 063-0010-001, that is dark gray, almost black in color. It's
> PS/2 and I've used it on my Indigo2 in place of the granite
> 063-0009-001, which I also have.
Unusual. Any idea what it was originally for? Do you know if there was a
matching keyboard?
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
> Some 20 odd years after it was decommisioned we finally got our PDP-9 to
> boot software off an old DECTape. Advanced Software System version 5A
> came up today for the first time on our restored -9.
Any chance of making the software available for use under SIMH?
Zane
Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Derek Peschel wrote:
> > No, but I do know that the same feature existed on the //e (i.e. before
> > the //c came out) but it was only accessible by changing internal
> > wiring. I read about this in an issue of Call A.P.P.L.E. which (of
> > course) I no longer have.
>
> Wow, crazy. I never knew that, or even heard of it. In fact I want to
> see a source before I believe it :)
http://www.syndicomm.com/~a2.ryan/The_Lamp/Text/2001/TLMP0102.TXT
Search for "[DKE]".
-Frank McConnell
I'm trying to get a selection of games that will work on a Serial Terminal
up and running on my OpenVMS server (a PWS 433au running OpenVMS 7.2-1H1).
I'm finding that most games that are available for VMS date back to VAX/VMS
V3 or earlier. Does anyone know of any besides the following that will
work?
Advent 4.0A - Native
Dungeon 3.2B - Native
Empire 4.0 - Native
NetHack 3.3.1 - Native
Moria 4.5 - Vested
Rogue 3.0 - Vested (doesn't seem to display right)
King - Native
Spacwr - Native (very old Star Trek game)
Spacemine - Native (Ported from an old book of Basic Games I've had
for about 20 Years)
Angband 2.8.0 - Native (but requires DECwindows)
I'm really looking for copies of the following that will work on an Alpha
running OpenVMS:
Angband (that will work on a serial terminal)
Rogue (a version that works right)
zcode emulator
Decent Star Trek game
DND
Moria 4.8 or 5.0
Newer version of Empire
Conquest
I'm also interested in any other good ones that I might not know about.
Zane
As part of the celebration of "50 years of Computing in Grenoble", the
Association for a Conservatory of Information Technology (ACONIT) in
partnership with the Association for the History of Telecommunications
and Informatique (AHTI) and the Federation des Equipes Bull (FEB) is
organising the 6th international conference on the History of Computing
and Networks. This international conference is supported by Institut de
Math?matiques appliqu?es de Grenoble (IMAG) and other european institutions.
This, the 6th conference in the series History of Computing, presided by
Jean Carteron, founder of STERIA, returns to the site of the first such
conference held in Grenoble in 1988.
Papers selected this year by the programme committee, chaired by
Pierre-Eric Mounier-Kuhn, research historian at the CNRS and by Louis
Pouzin, pionneering researcher of networks in Europe., cover recent
studies of the subject and gather important eye witness accounts of the
history of computing and networking.
The conference is one of the events in the celebration of "50 years of
computing in Grenoble" which also includes an exhibition tracing the
impact of computing on life in Grenoble illustrated by exhibits from the
ACONIT collection. This admission free exhibition is open to the public
23 November to 2 December at the prestigious Musee de Grenoble.
Conference registration is now open on the web site.
For further information regarding the conference or exhibition contact
ACONIT :
Tel : +33 (0)4.76.48.43.60
Web : http://www.aconit.org/colloque2002
Email : mailto:colloque2002@aconit.org
Or write :
ACONIT/COLLOQUE2002
10 bis Rue Ampere
BP 267
38016 Grenoble Cedex
FRANCE
-- hbp
This item is still off topic for another few years (introduced in 1995),
but I want to ask here because I know most of us have large piles of
assorted equipment.
I just aquired a Global Village OneWorld Combo Fax/Network modem. But it
lacks the power supply brick for it. Do any of you per chance have one of
these things (or the sister units the Network Fax, or just Network
Modem). And if so, can you tell me the pinouts and power specs so I can
locate/build a new power supply?
It uses a mini din 3 connector. The connector is the same style used on
apple local talk cables (3 pins plus a 4th plastic guide block). I am
assuming it will end up being AC power, and one pin each for hot,
neutral, and ground.
The manual says it uses a Din 8 for external 110v power adaptor... but I
REALLY think the 8 pin connector is for the localtalk support. Localtalk
boxes never came with a 3 pin plug for connecting to a device, only 8
pin, and the symbol over the 8 pin is a typical localtalk double arrow
and matches the symbol over one of the status lights in the front. The
symbol over the 3 pin is a typical AC wave symbol, that port is also
right next to the on/off switch.
Internally there isn't enough components to regulate a 110 connection, so
the brick must step it down to something else.
Anyone got one of these and can tell me the specs? I did some googling,
but no luck finding anything helpful (I will try Global Village directly,
but I think they have more or less died off since Zoom took them over as
part of the Boca buyout).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Bear,
I'm not famoilar with the bigger Suns so you'll have to tell me how to tell how to id a DG4. I know where there are two large Sun computers at the moment. I believe one is a 2/60 but I'm not sure what the other is.
Joe
At 09:34 PM 8/29/02 -0400, you wrote:
>
>The CG4 in my 3/60 seems to have stopped displaying an image. It's still
>detected by the kernel, and outputs a valid sync signal, but I never get
>an image on the monitor.
>
>I'd like to replace it. If anybody has a spare they can part with, drop me
>a line. I guess I could also be strongarmed into taking a CG6, but I'd
>much prefer the CG4 (the CG6 is not supported on SunOS 3.5)...
>
>Or? If somebody knows off the top of their head what's wrong with my
>CG4, I could use advice, instead. (;
>
>ok
>r.
>
>
> --- Robert Schaefer wrote:
> Had a mouse attached to it, and it wasn't until I
> got it home that I noticed it was an optical mouse.
> Mfgr'd by Mouse
> Systems... It seems that the IIc+ will take the older
> DE9 style Mac
> mice, so this might be for one of those.
>
> Does this little guy need a fancy pad?
> --- On 08/28/02, Ethan Dicks scribbled:
> I would expect so. They are much rarer than the mice.
> --- From: "David A. Woyciesjes"
> You know, I do believe I have an extra Mouse Systems metal mouse
> pad, that looks a lot like the pad I have for my Sun
> Optical mouse. I'll
> have to check when I get home tonight.
> If it's the right nodel number for you, you can have it for
> (what's a reasonable price?) plus shipping...
> --- From: Robert F. Schaefer
> Thanks! How can I tell if it's the right one? Currently, I
> can't even say if the mouse actually works.
Well, I have the pad, which has NDY 402631-001 on a sticker on the
back. It's 7.75" wide by 7" high. about 0.5" smaller, in both directions,
than my Sun Optical mouse pad. Hmmm, there are a couple scratches on the
right side... Well, considering how old it probably is...
(...and, in another message...)
> --- From: Ethan Dicks
>
> There are two pads used with Sun mice - type 3/4 mice
> and type 5 mice. You want the older one (coarser grid)
I didn't even think of comparing that with my Sun pad. From memory,
I think this one has a coarser grid, but I'm not positive. Let me crack out
my ruler & a magnifying lens...
It appears to be 5 lines per every 2mm.
My Sun keyboard is a Type 5, But I don't think the optical mouse
came with it. I can check the Sun mouse and pad this weekend...
--
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 905818
Well it was a great day being given a tour by a local guy who knows some of
the better places to go for all types of computer stuff. I walked away with
the following items and have a bid in on some others.
1. Data General terminal model 6255 (no keyboard with it),
2. Data General Aviion model G70624D,
3. SGI IRIS Indigo xs24,
4. PowerPC 7200/90,
5. Apple MultiScan 20 display,
6. Mac Performa 630CD.
Below are the items I got a auction yesterday.
NCR monitor model 0271-6090 $0
2-Apple ext. 51/4 FDD $0
IBM 5151 monitor $0
Compaq Amber monitor model Compaq DeskPro $0
IBM PS/1 computer only $0
Tandy ext 51/4 FDD model 25-1060B $0
Sega Master System powerbase $0
Atari video pinball console only model C-380 $5
PowerComputing PowerBase 200 tower $20
Please note that the dates for Vintage Computer Festival 5.0 have
changed. The new dates are October 26th and 27th, 2002. Please
make a note of this in your calendar.
The location of VCF 5.0 is still the Santa Clara Convention Center
in Santa Clara, California.
Again, the new dates for VCF 5.0 are October 26th and 27th.
Further information about VCF 5.0 can be found on the Vintage
Computer Festival wesbite:
http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
* Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *
The CG4 in my 3/60 seems to have stopped displaying an image. It's still
detected by the kernel, and outputs a valid sync signal, but I never get
an image on the monitor.
I'd like to replace it. If anybody has a spare they can part with, drop me
a line. I guess I could also be strongarmed into taking a CG6, but I'd
much prefer the CG4 (the CG6 is not supported on SunOS 3.5)...
Or? If somebody knows off the top of their head what's wrong with my
CG4, I could use advice, instead. (;
ok
r.
I think my last message regarding this was in HTML format, so maybe some
people didn't read it. Anyway, I apologize for sending the HTML message.
I am making my "vintage" chat software available for anyone to use. If
you'd like an account, send me an E-mail and I'll create one for you and
send you instructions on how to access the system via Telnet.
Below is the help from it, so you can decide if this interests you or
not. This is "vintage" software because it predates the internet (as we
know it), IRC, etc. and is from the era of the CompuServe "CB"
simulator, etc.
Send an E-mail to bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com if you'd like access!
- Bob
-----
1: /help
For more information, enter one of the following:
/COMMANDS for a list of TALK commands.
/HELP,introduction for an introduction to TALK.
/HELP,commands for an explanation of the TALK commands.
/HELP,flags for an explanation of the TALK flags.
/HELP,messages for an explanation of the TALK status messages.
/HELP,summary for a TALK command summary.
/HELP,author if you are curious.
/HELP,command name for help on a command. Do not include the '/'.
1: /help intro
TALK is a program that allows you to interactively exchange messages
with other users. Each user enters his message, and all users in his
'conference' can read what he was written. Also, a user may direct a
message to a specific user. In this case, the message is referred to as
a 'private' message, as it is private between the two users.
When you enter TALK, you are asked to enter your nickname. This is
the name that other users will refer to you as. You may use your real
name, or you may use a nickname of some sort.
TALK has two modes of operation: Single-line mode and Essay mode. In
single line mode, you can send a one line message at a time. Simply type
the line and press the <Return> key, and everyone in your conference
will see your message. You will receive messages from other users at any
time when you have not typed anything on a line.
In Essay mode, you may enter multiple-line messages. You may also
direct your message to a specific user, whether he/she is in your
conference or a different one. When you want to send your message, you
can either press <Return> on a blank line, or use the /SEND command.
TALK has special commands which allow you to perform functions other
than sending messages. A TALK command starts with a '/' (slash)
character, followed by the command name. Some commands need parameters
to tell the command what to do. If the command needs parameters, use a
',' (comma) to separate the command and its parameters.
TALK supports multiple 'conferences'. A conference is a place where a
group of users get together and talk about a specific subject. When you
first enter TALK, you are put into the conference 'Limbo'. Limbo is a
conference that always exists and is a conference for general use. You
can create your own conference with the /CREATE command.
The person who creates a conference becomes the conference controller
for that conference. If they leave the conference, then there is no
conference controller and anyone else in the conference may become the
controller. The conference controller has the ability to perform
specific tasks relating to their conference, such as putting a password
on it so that only users who know the password may join.
Use the command /HELP to get information about the various TALK
features. Use /HELP,COMMANDS to get help on all the commands.
1: /help commands
The following commands are valid while using talk. The command names
are shown in uppercase only to stress that they are TALK commands; You
may use upper, lower, or mixed case for the commands.
Parameters shown in square brackets ([ ]) are optional and are not
always required.
/CREATE,conf name[,password]
/MAKE,conf name[,password]
These commands create a conference and make you the controller.
If
you supply a password, then the conference is locked and only
those
who use the password may join it. Note that upper and lowercase
in passwords is significant. If you write an essay before
creating
the conference, the essay will be used as the conference
description
which may be viewed by using the /DESCRIBE command.
/GOTO,conf name[,password]
This command moves you to a new conference. If the conference is
locked, you must supply the correct password. Note that upper
and
lower case in passwords is significant.
/JOIN,user name[,password]
This command moves you to the conference where the user you
specify
is. If the conference is locked, you must specify the conference
password.
/MODERATE
This command will cause the conference to become a moderated
conference. In a moderated conference, only the controller and
those designated by the controller are allowed to speak
publically.
There is also a speak request queue to allow users to enter a
request to speak. Related commands are /ALLOW, /DISALLOW, /SPEAK
and /NEXT.
/UNMODERATE
This command returns the conference to the normal, unmoderated
status.
/ALLOW,user name
This command will allow the conference controller of a moderated
conference to give a user the privelege to speak publically.
This
can be used to allow guest speakers to speak freely.
/DISALLOW,user name
/SILENCE,user name
These commands will take away the privelge to speak freely from
a
user within a moderated conference. Only the conference
controller
may issue this command.
/ENABLEQ
The conference controller can use this command to open the
speaker
request queue for entries. If the queue is not enables, users
cannot
use the /SPEAK command to request a turn to speak.
/DISABLEQ
This command allows the controller to close the speaker request
queue to any further /SPEAK commands.
/SPEAK
Enteres a request into the speaker queue in a moderated
conference.
If you have been designated as a speaker by the conference
controller
you do not need to (and cannot) use the command.
/QUEUE
This command will display the speaker request queue in a
moderated
conference.
/NEXT
This command allows the controller of a moderated conference to
give the next person in the speaker request queue their turn to
speak. The current speaker in the queue (if there is one) will
automatically be silenced.
/DESCRIBE[,conf name]
This command will display the description of a conference that
you
specify. If you do not specify a conference name, the conference
you
are in will be described.
/NEWDESC
This command allows you to create a new description for your
confer-
ence. Create an essay, and instead of sending it, use the
/NEWDESC
command. You must be the conference controller to use this
command.
if there is no conference controller, you will be come the
controller.
/RENAME,new name
This command will change the current conference name to the new
name specified. You must be the conference controller to use
this
command. If there is no controller, you will become the
controller.
/MONITOR[,conf name[,password]]
This command allows you to monitor another conference. The
members
of the other conference will be aware that you are monitoring
their
conference. If you want to monitor a locked conference, you must
specify the conference password. If you do not specify any
conference
name, monitoring will be shut off. You can only monitor one
conference
at a time.
/EAVESDROP[,user name[,password]]
This command allows you to monitor anotehr user's messages. The
user
will not be aware that you are monitoring their messages. If you
want to eavesdrop on a user that is in a locked conference, you
must
supply the correct password for that conference. If you don't
specify
any user name, eavesdropping will be shut off. Note that you can
only
eavesdrop on one user at a time, and you can only read that
user's
public messages, NOT their private ones.
/SQUELCH[,user name]
Squelching allows you to ignore public and private messages from
selected users. If you do not specify a user name, a list of the
current users you have squelched will be shown.
/UNSQUELCH,user name
This command allows you to resume receiving messages from a user
that you have previously squelched.
/ALERT[,system name]
This command will set up an alert to tell you when the specified
user enters TALK. If you do not specify a user name, the current
alert will be cancelled. You may only have one active alert at a
time. Once you have received your alert, the alert will auto-
matically be cancelled.
/NOTIFY[,user name]
This command will set up a 'notify' to tell you when the
specified
user logs onto the VAX. If you do not specify a user name, the
current notify will be cancelled. You may only have one active
notify at a time. Once you have received your notify, the notify
will automatically be cancelled.
/CALL,user name[,message]
This command will notify the user specified that they are being
requested to join TALK by you. You can also include an optional
message that will appear on the second line of the call. If you
use
an optional message of asterisk (*), a message telling the user
how
to enter the TALK system will be displayed.
/LOCK,password
With this command, you can lock a conference. You can only lock
a
conference if you are the conference controller, or if no one is
the conference controller. If no one is the conference
controller
then you will be made the conference controller upon locking the
conference. If the conference is already locked, using the /LOCK
command will change the password users must supply to enter the
conference.
/UNLOCK
This command will unlock a locked conference. You can only
unlock
a locked conference if you are the conference controller, or if
no
one is the conference controller. If no one is the conference
controller, you will be made the controller upon using the
/UNLOCK
command.
/TRANSCRIBE[,file name]
This command will cause all the public conversations in the
current
conference to be transcribed to the specified file. If you do
not
speicfy a file name, the current transcription will be stopped.
Each
conference may only have one transcription active at a time, and
only
the creator of the transcription may stop it. If you start a
tran-
scription and then exit TALK, that transcription will remain
active
until the conference is dispersed.
/EVICT,user name
This command allows the conference controller to evict a user
from
his conference. The user that is evicted is placed in the Limbo
conference. You may only evict someone if you are the conference
controller, or if there is no controller of your conference. You
cannot evict anyone from Limbo.
/NOMONITOR
If any users are monitoring your conference, this command will
turn their monitoring off. You may only issue this command if
you
are the conference controller or if there is no conference
control-
ler. If there is no conference controller, you will become the
controller. This command is useful if you wish to isolate your
conference from the public. First, use the /LOCK command to give
your conference a password, then use the /NOMONITOR command to
insure that no users are currently monitoring it. Any users who
subsequently wish to join or monitor your connference will need
to
supply the correct password.
/RELINQUISH
This command allows you to give up control of your conference.
Once
you relinquish control, anyone else may become the conference
controller.
/CONTROL
This command will allow you to take control of a conference if
there is no controller.
/ESSAY
This command puts you into 'essay' mode, where you may write a
multi-line message. Send the message with a blank line or with
the /SEND command.
/LIST
This command lists your current essay on the screen. It is
useful
if you have received some messages and lost track of what you
were
saying.
/CANCEL
/KILL
This command will erase your current essay.
/SEND[,user name]
This command will send your 'essay'. If you specify a user name
your message will be sent to only that person. If you do not
specify a user name, your message will be sent to everyone in
your conference.
/RESEND[,user name]
This command works exactly like /SEND except that it re-sends
your
last 'essay'. If you have entered at least one line of a new
'essay', this command will not work.
/WHISPER,user name
This command will send your 'essay' to a specific user. Only the
user you specify will receive the message.
/TO[,user name]
This command will direct the current message to the specified
user
when it is sent with the /SEND command or a blank line.
Specifying
a name on the /SEND or /WHISPER command will override the /TO
setting. Use /TO with no parameter to clear the setting. /TO is
only active for the current essay, and is reset when the essay
is sent.
/REPLY
This command will initiate the sending of a private message to
the
sender of the last whisper message you received. After issuing
the
/REPLY command, you will receive a message telling who the
message
will be directed to. Enter your message, and press <return> on a
blank line, and the message will be sent. If the message is not
directed to the person that you wished, use the /SEND or
/WHISPER,
or /TO commands to direct your message to the proper place.
/HOLD
This command will take your current essay and place it on hold.
You may continue to talk, as usual. When you would like to
retreive the essay you have on hold, use the /UNHOLD command.
/UNHOLD
This command will take the essay you have placed on hold and
restore it as your current essay. The hold buffer is cleared.
/USERS[,conf name]
This command will show you the users on TALK. If a conference
name
is specified, only the users in that conference will be shown. A
conference name of * will cause a list of users in your curent
conference to be displayed.
/SUMMARY
This command is similar to /USERS, but in a more abbreviated
form.
/CONFLIST
This command prints a short list of all the current conferences
with
the number of users in each.
/PANEL
In a moderated conference, this command will display a list of
all
the users who are allowed to speak.
/COMMANDS
This command gives a brief listing of all the TALK commands.
/LOG[,number]
This command displays TALK's userlog. This log shows the users
that
have used TALK in the past. Specify the number of entries you
would
like to be displayed. If you do not specify a number, the entire
log
will be displayed.
/NEWS
This command will display any news about Talk that has been
posted
by the system manager.
/FACE[,face style]
This command will allow you to change your face style displayed
with
your messages. Use the /FACE,LIST command to get a list of the
allowable face styles, or /FACE to clear your face style.
/NAME,new name
This command allows you to change your nickname. Specify your
new
name as the parameter to the command.
/COMMENT[,comment]
Sets a comment to be displayed with every status message from
you.
If you don't supply a comment, your current comment will be
cleared.
/STATUS
This command will show you a detailed status and description
about
your current session on TALK.
/ACTIVITY
This command will show you an activity summary of the TALK
system
since it was last started.
/LIMITS
Displays Talk's current limits. These limits are set by the
system
manager.
/CLS
This command will clear your terminal screen. If you have the
ansicrt flag set, the ANSI sequence will be used to clear your
screen, otherwise blank lines will be used to scroll your
screen.
/MAIL[,vax user[,subject]]
This command will allow you to access the VAXmail system. If you
do not specify any parameters, you will be placed directly into
VAXmail. When you exit from VAXmail, you will return to TALK
without
losing any messages sent to you. If you specify a VAX username,
your current essay will be mailed to that user. You can
optionally
specify a subject to be attached to your message.
/DCL[,command]
This command will allow you to access DCL. If you specify a
command
that command will be executed as if you entered it at the DCL
prompt.
If you do not specify a command, you will get the DCL prompt.
You
return to TALK with the LOGOUT command.
/GRIPE
This command will use your current essay as a gripe message. It
will
be sent to the person responsible for handing gripes about TALK.
You can also use the /GRIPE command for compliments or
suggestions
regarding the TALK system.
/SHOW[,flag name]
This command will display you flag settings. If you supply a
flag
name, that flag's setting will be displayed. Otherwise, all flag
settings will be displayed.
/SET,flag name
This command sets (turns on) the flag you specify.
/CLEAR,flag name
This command clears (turns off) the flag you specify.
/BYE[,comment]
/DONE[,comment]
/EXIT[,comment]
/QUIT[,comment]
Any of these commands will exit you from talk. If you specify a
comment, it will be displayed in the log next to your name.
1: /help flags
You may set or clear certain 'flags' which allow you to customize
TALK to your personal preferences. Use the /SET command to set a flag
(turn it
on) and the /CLEAR command to clear a flag (turn it off). The following
are descriptions of the flags you can use:
alarm With this flag set, you will hear a beep every time
you
receive a message from a user. This flag can be
useful
if the conversation on TALK is slow and you want to
look
away from the screen while waiting for a message.
ansicrt Set this flag if you have an ANSI compatable
terminal
(such as a VT100, VT220, Visual 102, etc). This will
allow TALK to take advantage of your terminal's
special
features. >NOT FULLY IMPLEMENTED IN THIS VERSION<
autoact This flag will cause an /ACTIVITY comamnd to be
executed
you enter TALK.
autoflags This flag will cause your current flag settings to
be
shown when you enter TALK. It is the equivalent of
doing
a /SHOW command when you enter TALK.
autousers This flag will cause a /USERS command to be executed
when
you enter TALK.
autosum This flag will cause a /SUMMARY command to be
executed
when you enter Talk.
clock This flag controls weather the time is displayed
next
to received messages. With this flag set, the time
will
be shown. With this flag clear, the time will not be
shown.
essaylock This flag will cause you to permanently stay in
essay
mode, as if you had typed /ESSAY after each message.
To get out of this mode, use /CLEAR,essaylock.
faces Setting this flag will show the face next to the
sender's
name in a message. Clearing this flag will cause the
faces to be shown only in the /users command.
fullessay If this flag is set, you will not be interrupted
with
messages until you have finished a full essay and
sent
it. If this flag is clear, you will be able to
receive
messages inbetween lines of an essay. Note that you
will never receive messages while you are in the
middle
of typing a line.
hearbells When set, this flag allows bell characters to be
heard
on the terminal. Clearing this flag will permit
quiet
operation of TALK.
invisible Setting this flag will allow you to be invisible
while
inside a locked conference. If you are the
conference
controller, you will always be seen.
noecho If you would like to put your terminal in local echo
mode, setting this flag will cause Talk to stop
echoing
the characters you type. With this flag clear, Talk
will echo all the characters you type.
privates Setting this flag will allow you to receive private
or whisper messages send with the /WHISPER or /SEND
commands. Clearing this flag will not allow you to
receive any of these messages.
prompt The prompt flag will cause TALK to give you prompts
for
each line of input. In 'Essay' mode you will get a
prompt
telling you which line you are on. Otherwise you
will get
a '>' prompt. If you set the prompt flag off, you
will
not get any prompts for input.
readown Setting this flag will allow you to see your own
messages
that you send. With this flag set, you can see how
your
messages look within the context of all the other
users'
messages. Note that you will not see messages which
you
direct at a specific user with the /SEND command.
seebells This flag will show bells as <BELL> on the terminal.
It is useful if the hearbells flag is cleared. Note
that
this flag does not affect the sounding of bells on
the
terminal.
singlesp With some terminals, writing essays with prompt
clear
will cause the essay to appear double space. Set
this
flag if your essays appear double spaceed with
prompt
clear, then set this flag. Otherwise, leave it
clear.
verbose This flag will cause TALK to display a more wordy
form
of it's messages.
watch This flag allows you to watch who enters and leaves
Talk.
wordwrap Setting this flag while in essay mode will wrap
words
around to the next line as you are typing.
1: /help mess
At times throughout a TALK session, you may see 'status' messages
>from a user. A status message has the form:
< message > user name
where 'message' gives the status for the user 'user name'. The following
is a list of possible status messages:
< Entering > The user is entering the TALK system.
< Leaving > The user is leaving the TALK system.
< Joining > The user is joining your conference from another
one.
< Moving > The user is leaving your conference and moving to
another one.
< Moderating > The user has changed the conference into moderated
status. Users may not speak publically unless
designated
by the controller.
< Unmoderating > The confernce has been returned to normal,
unmoderated
status.
< Speaker > The user has been designated as a speaker by the
conference controller. The user may speak
publically
until silenced.
< Silenced > The user may no longer speak publically within the
moderated conference.
< Logged In > The user was the one you specified in a /NOTIFY
command
and the user has logged into the VAX.
< Monitoring > The user is monitoring your conference. He can read
all
the messages (except for private messages) which
are
sent in your conference.
< Not Monitoring > The user is not monitoring your conference anymore.
< Evicted > This means that the user has been evicted or
'kicked'
out of the conference by the conference controller.
The user that is evicted is moved to Limbo.
< Locking > This message means that the conference controller
has
locked the conference. If the conference was
already
locked, then he is changing the password.
< Unlocking > This means that the conference controller has
unlocked
the conference. The conference is now available for
public access.
< Ghosted Out > This means that the user has somehow left TALK by
not
going through the normal means. TALK has just
discovered
that this person is no longer using TALK, so they
are
'ghosted out'.
< Timed Out > This means that the user has timed out of Talk.
< Controlling > The user has taken control of the conference.
< Relinquishing > This means that the user is relinquishing control
of
his conference.
< Comment > The user has changed their comment.
1: /help sum
/ACTIVITY Show an activity summary of TALK
/ALERT[,system name] Alert when user enters TALK
/ALLOW,user name Allow a user to speak
/BYE[,comment] Exit TALK
/CALL,user name[,message] Call a user to TALK
/CANCEL Erase current essay
/CLEAR,flag name Clear a flag
/CLS Clear terminal screen
/COMMANDS Lists TALK commands
/COMMENT Sets up a comment for display
/CONFLIST Display a list of available
conferences
/CONTROL Take control of the conference
/CREATE,conf name[,password] Create a conference
/DCL[,command] Access DCL from TALK
/DESCRIBE[,conf name] Print a conference description
/DISABLEQ Disables the speaker request queue
/DISALLOW,user name Disallow a user to speak
/DONE[,comment] Exit TALK
/EAVESDROP[user name[,password]] Eavesdrop on a usewr
/ENABLEQ Enables the speaker request queue.
/ESSAY Enter a multi-line message
/EVICT,user name Evict a user from a conference
/EXIT[,comment] Exit TALK
/FACE[,style] Change face style
/GOTO,conf name[,password] Goto a conference
/GRIPE Submit a gripe about TALK.
/HOLD Puts the current essay on hold.
/JOIN,user name[,password] Join a user in a conference
/KILL Erase current essay
/LIMITS Displays Talk's current limits.
/LIST List current essay
/LOCK,password Lock a conference
/LOG[,number] Display userlog
/MAIL[,vax user[,subject]] Access the VAXmail system
/MAKE,conf name[,password] Create a conference
/MODERATE Make the current conference
moderated
/MONITOR[,conf name[,password]] Monitor a conference
/NAME,new name Change nickname
/NEXT Let the next person in the queue
speak
/NEWS Shows Talk news
/NODES Shows a list of nodes linked to
Talk.
/NOMONITOR Stop users from monitoring
conference.
/NOTIFY[,vax username] Notify when user logs into VAX
/PANEL Display a list of the speaking
panel
/QUEUE Display the speaker request queue
/QUIT[,comment] Exit TALK
/RELINQUISH Relinquish control of your
conference
/RENAME Give the conference a new name
/REPLY Reply to the last private message
/RESEND[,user name] Resend last multi-line message
/SEND[,user name] Send a multi-line message
/SET,flag name Set a flag
/SHOW[,flag name] Show flag settings
/SILENCE,user name Disallow a user to speak
/SPEAK Enter a request into the speaker
queue
/SQUELCH[,user name] Squelch (ignore) a user
/STATUS Show status about yourself.
/SUMMARY Show a summary of Talk users
/TO[,user name] Direct a message to a user
/TRANSCRIBE[,file name] Transcribe conference to file
/UNHOLD Take essay off hold
/UNLOCK Unlock a conference
/UNMODERATE Unmoderates the conference
/UNSQUELCH,user name Unsquelch a user
/USERS[,conf name] Show users on TALK
/WHISPER,user name Send a message to a specific user
1: /help auth
TALK was written in VAX C by Bob Lafleur. TALK was inspired from my
use of many 'TALK' systems, including, but not limited to 'TALK',
'Twinkle' and 'Confer' at U-Mass/Amherst, 'DIALOG' by Mike Hurst, and
CompuServe's CB Simulator. I would also like to thank the users of
Dataseek in Houston, Texas during the summer of 1988 for their unlimited
ideas.
If you have any ideas for this TALK program, please send them to me,
as I am continually interested in making this program the BEST talk
program around! I can be contacted at:
Bob Lafleur
45 Ionia Street
Springfield, MA 01109-2519
Phone: (413) 737-8503
CompuServe: 75146,3122
GEnie: SKID
Internet: 75146.3122(a)CompuServe.COM
bob(a)nq1c.ampr.org (IP address 44.44.0.35)
Packet: NQ1C @ W1NY.MA.USA.NA
Enjoy!
1: /commands
/activity /allow /bye /call /clear /cancel
/cls /commands /comment /control /conflist /create
/dcl /describe /disableque /disallow /done
/eavesdrop
/enableque /essay /evict /exit /face /goto
/gripe /help /hold /join /kill /limits
/list /lock /log /mail /make
/moderate
/monitor /name /newdesc /news /next /nodes
/nomonitor /panel /queue /quit /relinquish /rename
/reply /resend /send /set /show
/silence
/speak /squelch /status /summary /to
/transcribe
/unhold /unlock /unmoderate /unsquelch /users
/whisper
1:
> If I remember right UCX was for VMS 4 or earlier I think.... I gotta do
> some digging, I know I've got the Digital TCP Services CD someplace, I'll
> look into the WASD webserver afterwards, it would be fun to check it out.
> Thanks.
I'm not sure when UCX started, but it went through OpenVMS 7.1/UCX 4.0, it
was with OpenVMS 7.2 that it switched to TCPIP 5.0, and the current version
is either 5.1 or 5.3 (I think 5.3 may have just come out with 7.3-1, but
I've not seen the release notes, or a new Condist).
Zane
I have e-mailed Joe about what I have - a nice brand new set of three in
their original package. The package is not sealed in plastic, but the disks
look new and unused. I'm going to keep one, but will sell his people two
disks and the case. Anyone want to comment on their worth? Thanks, David
David Greelish
Classic Computing
www.classiccomputing.com
"classiccomputing" on eBay
Please see:
http://members.aol.com/mtpro/compuclean.html
<< I do have some for my TRS80 m.2 and possibly my Shugart, but I'm hanging
on to them like a leech.
What about fabricating some with 8" jackets. After all they're simply
slightly
abrasive absorbent paper in an 8" envelope. No ?
On the other hand, after reading the other replies, possibly I could spare
ONE for suitable goods or renumeration. The TRS 8" Heath, and Shugart
ARE easy to get at the head(s).
If interested contact me. They are NOT in hermetically sealed packages.
Lawrence >>
Now that the VCF dates have changed, it gives you procrastinators another
month to prepare an exhibit. We could certainly use more exhibits this
year so if you are considering it, visit the exhibitor information page:
http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/exhibit.php
For those of you who had other plans for the old dates, the new dates
represent an opportunity to come, so mark your calendar!
And if you want to sell anything at the VCF, either as a vendor or on
consignment, there is still plenty of space available:
http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/vendor.php
See you there!
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Well, jsut aquired myself a nice sgi indigo, the only issue I think I may
of been given the wrong mouse...
Now if any listmembers, happen to have an indigo, can you tell me the part
number of the mouse, the mouse I have is 9150809 which I think is for an
Indigo 2, but then I could be wrong...
Nice machine tho, it has no hard drive, or any of the sleds, but that
isn't too much of an issue, as I will use an external scsi drive. But the
monitor is huge, about 20 inch I think its silicon graphics branded, but
made by mitsubishi (I think) and the monitor is in good condition..
The best thing about it, is the cost.. I got it for nothing, which is nice
down here in australia. as I very rarely see anything which is free to a
good home...
Benjamin
You might also want to check out the software designed to read from a
serial-interface modified CueCat bar code reader, cuecat-0.3.0.tar.gz at
http://www.viking.org.au/mirrors/cuecat/, IIRC. The original CueCat
interfaced with the keyboard port, but there were hacks to serially
interface it, then read the character stream.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Holley [mailto:swtpc6800@attbi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:08 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Need PC-AT "keyboard BIOS" docs
I have been looking into this also. Here is a good link on AT Keyboards
http://www.beyondlogic.org/keyboard/keybrd.htm
Michael Holley
www.swtpc.com/mholley
----- Original Message -----
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:34:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Need PC-AT "keyboard BIOS" docs
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
I had this idea for a keyboard adapter for classic machines, but I
don't understand the 40-pin "keyboard BIOS" microcontroller well
enough to know if it's possible...
So... is there a good place (on the web) to learn about the
"keyboard BIOS" chip? Alternatively, is there already a project
like this that I can clone? If anyone has any examples of how
to attach a PeeCee keyboard to a 68000 or 6502 directly, without
going through a UART, I guess I'd be interested in that, too; but
since I was already planning on sticking a Z8530 or 6551 or 16550
chip on the OMNIBUS board anyway, I might as well use the same
serial port for all embedded console I/O.
Thanks for any pointers,
-ethan
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> WASD??? I'll look into it. What kills me is I used to have a few CD's
> with Multinet on them and as the years went by they disappeared, I have all
> of the books for Digital TCP Services but can't find the CD for that either,
> damned shame.
>
> The Hobbyist thing, its what $90 to join and get the cd's and such or
> something like that, right?
Look for the free Encompass membership option (Associate?). The CD's are
something like $20, and there is supposed to be a new set in the works, that
will be done in the next month or two. Once you've got a valid Encompass
(DECUS) membership you can download Multinet and TCPware from the Process
Software website.
Remember, the hobbyist licenses restrict you from using the system for
anything other than hobbyist use.
Zane
At 08:26 PM 8/29/02 +1000, you wrote:
>Well, jsut aquired myself a nice sgi indigo, the only issue I think I may
>of been given the wrong mouse...
>Now if any listmembers, happen to have an indigo, can you tell me the part
>number of the mouse, the mouse I have is 9150809 which I think is for an
>Indigo 2, but then I could be wrong...
The mouse that I have on my Indigo is PN 9150800. This one is a mechanical mouse. I used to have an optical mouse for it that worked but got rid of it and don't know it's PN. I tried some other optical mice that a friend had and they would have move the cursor in one axis!? (horizontal IIRC)
FWIW I just spent a good bit of my spare time for the past three days removing, disassembling, cleaning and reinstalling a good number of the key switchs on my keyboard. Whew! I'm glad that's over!
Joe