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Data General Aviion 4000 available for pickup (melb,au)

by drido＠optushome.com.au

I've got a Data General Aviion 4000 here if anyone wants it. Must be able to pickup from the SE suburbs of Melbourne, Australia. It's a large tower case, so it's easy enough to move but too big for me to ship. Alternatively I'll consider stripping it if you need parts. As far as I know it has 2 Motorola 88k CPUs, a 1.2GB HDD, a 525MB tape drive. If the HDD hasn't been erased it should still have DG-UX 4.32 on it. It has a multiport serial card in one of the VME slots, but I don't have the breakout box. There are a couple of catches... The NVRAM is dead. All but 1 of the SIMMs has been removed and some of the SIMM socket retaining clips were broken by whoever removed the SIMMs. The one remaining SIMM is not enough for the system to run, I get a fatal memory error on power up. It uses 80 pin SIMMs which I assume are DG specific (DEC 80 pin SIMMs will not work). I could use the HDD in another system, so if you want the HDD left intact I'd like another drive to replace it.

23 years, 5 months

Bringing up a 10 years dormant VAX 11/750

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Ahh, but Bob, cars are evil.. > I happen to know someone who got really ill this way (it was > an old car, not a computer though). Christine Strikes Again... Seriously, though... yeah, one must be careful when playing with this stuff.. although I never got electrocuted (yet..), I did once almost get splattered by a PDP-11/34a in its rack, with the rack tilting over backwards (where I was...) --f

23 years, 5 months

FW: Huge lot of DEC parts on E-pay

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

At 01:28 AM 11/8/2002 -0600, you wrote: >On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Bruce Lane wrote: > > > Found on Usenet. The starting bid is a bit high, but perhaps listmembers > > could pool resources...? > > > > I leave it to you to decide. If I were still collecting, I'd chip in a > > bit myself. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2068638523 > >Wow...is this seller legit? This guy is legit. I'm both sorry and happy to see this auction as I've been buying various boards and such from him at fairly reasonable prices over the last couple of years. I've known that they intended to clear out the inventory at some point, but did not know when. I'm sure that if you have any questions, he will try to answer them for you, including how much warehouse space would be required to store the inventory. --tom >I wonder if this lot would fill even Sellam's warehouse? ;) > >-Toth

23 years, 5 months

VCF East 2.0 needs some hype

by Qstieee＠aol.com

I would attend either since both are about a two hour drive from Hartford. I could also disseminate information through area ham radio groups Jeff Katz

23 years, 5 months

FW: Huge lot of DEC parts on E-pay

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>I wonder if this lot would fill even Sellam's warehouse? ;) Doubt it... if you read the auction, it notes that it is 10-12 skids worth of stuff, totalling up to 8000lbs. Megan

23 years, 5 months

Appearance on TechTV

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

Yeah, I saw that they invited you back... I look forward to it... I just caught the show again (8:30am eastern)... Megan

23 years, 5 months

Appearance on TechTV

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> well gee... maybe if I had received this BEFORE 9:15 on the 7th I could >> have taped it and dumped to MPEG for everyone. > >Blame it on the person respobsible for moderating messages from >non-subsribers :) (I sent the message from my main VCF account which is >not subscribed). Yeah, fortunatly ScreenSavers runs many many times over. I got home last night in time to catch the very end of the segment. So I set my Satallite to record the show at the 2:30am slot, and also the 8:00am slot (my satallite likes to pull the next set of TV listings around 2:30, and it doesn't seem to have the brains to know not to if you are recording... what do you want from an MS product!) If no one else posts a link to an MPEG of the clip, and my tape came out, I'll make an MPEG Saturday and post it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 5 months

[OT] Licenses?

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Over time, I have accumulated a fair number of official DEC PAK's for >various of their software systems. Most of these were part of deals >where I got or bought some company's complete systems room inventory, >so, systems, periphs, media, manuals and licenses (lock, stock & barrel >is the expression, imsmr). > >Now.. are these licenses still valid? I can't find any date expiration >and/or software version limitation info on the PAK sheets, so, would >assume they're still valid... IANAL, but AFAIK the licences are valid only for the original company unless you get HP to say otherwise. The deal used to be that the OS and a few other "intergrated" products (clustering, decnet etc.) could be transferred with the machine on payment of a fee (300UKP sticks in my mind here ...). So my view is that you do not have the right to use those licences, unless you purchased the company itself, in which case I suspect you own everything completely. >needed. I can get a customer's RSX11MPlus license, because I will >terminate his machine (for him ;-) and move the contents over to mine. I have no idea what the situation is with RSX/RT11/RSTS ... Mentec would know. JMHO Antonio

23 years, 5 months

Did anyone else see Sellam on the Screen Savers ?

by foxnhare＠bigvalley.net

Just caught it, very well done (and not just because it had Commodores on it :-), the host was really enthused by the display and said they may have him on again some later date (probably with stuff plugged in next time). He got a chance to show off the Collectible Computers book and a mention or two of VCF. And there's an article on their site, http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/showtell/story/0,24330,3406699,00.html (sure wish I had their bandwidth!) -- 01000011 01001111 01001101 01001101 01001111 01000100 01001111 01010010 01000101 Larry Anderson - Sysop of Silicon Realms BBS (209) 754-1363 300-14.4k bps Set your 8-bit C= rigs to sail for http://www.portcommodore.com/ 01000011 01001111 01001101 01010000 01010101 01010100 01000101 01010010 01010011

23 years, 5 months

BBSs & PPP

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Thanks, John. Panix looks like a good solution, although I don't know if I can handle real live tech support ;>) Glen 0/0 ---------- > From: John Lawson <jpl15(a)panix.com> > To: classiccmp <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: BBSs & PPP > Date: Saturday, November 02, 2002 4:59 PM > > > > Glen, check out Panix. www.panix.com > > I am am using Pine under Unix, and I telnet into them thru my local ISP, > no PPP or other stuff required - they also have dial-ups in a good number > of cities, more near the east coast since they are in NuYawk. > > I am using VanDayke's CRT on a Thinkpad, and it has never failed me, > from living in India to living in the California Sierras, and with my > cellphone when on the road. > > One thing, though, about Panix you might want to bear in mind. When you > call them, something known as a 'human being' will answer the phone right > away, and that person will not only know what you're talking about, you > will be connected to another one of those 'human' devices, (I have never > been on hold with them, BTW) and in my few tech calls, the person helping > me knew precisely what they were talking about and gave me the complete, > correct info the first time. > > I just thought it would be only fair to warn you. > > > Cheers > > John > > >

23 years, 5 months

Appearance on TechTV

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

I actually caught the show as it aired, and started up the tape recorder in time for the segment... I'll see if I can dump it to a file... Nice job, Sellam... my only comment is the fact that you didn't mention the community of collectors out here, or the fact that we all exchange info... Megan

23 years, 5 months

BBSs & PPP

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

In the days before 'net access was commonly available to ordinary folks like me, I used to spend a fair amount of time on BBSs, so I thought it might be fun to use my older machines to do some BBSing. Unfortunately, results from Google suggest that most BBSs are now only Telnet-accessible. Anyone know where to get a fairly current list of dial-up BBSs? I'm also having a hell of a time trying to find an ISP which can provide a dial-up shell account (with POP3 email) which doesn't require PPP or SSH. I could code PPP drivers for a vintage micro (although it would suck up a lot of time), but I doubt that I could get both PPP and TCP/IP running on a system with 64 KB RAM or less. Anyone know where to find an ISP which provides plain old dial-up access >from a micro running a terminal program? TIA -- Glen 0/0 If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

23 years, 5 months

OT: Phones (was re: BBSs & PPP)

by classiccmp＠crash.com

> Can you point to any webistes that have info about these > phone systems? Do they pop up on eBay? I'll go through my notes later for a summary. All manner of excellent, marginal, and downright bizarre phone gear turns up on eBay. As with anything else, some is wildly overpriced and some starts out as a bargain, and may not end up that way. Caveat emptor, double for eBay. The Panasonic stuff seems to be the friendliest and provices the most bang for the buck, but this is a hugely subjective topic. Best thing I can tell you before I run out the door is to check out the newsgroups comp.dcom.telecom and comp.dcom.telecom.tech on Google Groups. The "home pbx" thread has come up many times, and there's a lot of good info archived there. --Steve.

23 years, 5 months

CORRECTION: VAX 11/750 Restoration Project

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

CORRECTION: http://dahmer.vistech.net/~jwillis/index.html -----Original Message----- From: John Willis Sent: Thu 11/7/2002 11:01 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Subject: VAX 11/750 Restoration Project FWIW, my 11/750 restoration project now has a page on my site at http://dahmer.vistech.net/~jwillis It is basically a journal format which I will update as I continue working on the system. John

23 years, 5 months

VAX 11/750 Restoration Project

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

FWIW, my 11/750 restoration project now has a page on my site at http://dahmer.vistech.net/~jwillis It is basically a journal format which I will update as I continue working on the system. John

23 years, 5 months

VCF5: Nobody got it..!

by jpl15＠panix.com

Well, amidst all of the stellar and superlative Tales and Stories now filtering in from Moffet Field, I have one small bummer. Taking our cue from a recent long and nearly-immortal thread on Oscilloscopes; sub-Tektronix scopes; sub-sub rack-mount Tek scopes - Marvin and I concocted a nice visual in-joke. I mounted a working RM503 in the rack with my PDP 11/44 and waited for one of the Listmembers to notice it and laugh. And I waited.... and waited.... Nobody got it! O well.... If Tony Duell had made his way across the pond this year - *he* would have laughed! maybe... But anyway, a Pretty Good Time was had by all, though there was not much working Big Iron on display - partially understandable when the Logistics of hauling and loading/unloading and setting up larger systems is taken into account. And I have the scars and bruises to attest to that. But next year I'm leaving the scope at home. Cheerz John

23 years, 5 months

This weeks finds

by stationmaster＠ozemail.com.au

Regarding the Wang WLTC Laptop, I have one in original condition which I boot up every week, however I need information regarding the operation of the computer, especially running dos programs, can you help. Robin at Crystal Brook. My Email: stationmaster(a)ozemail.com.au News http://mysite.freeserve.com/SAussieRailNews/ Dirtcircuit : http://www.trainweb.org/mystation/hotrod.htm History of Steam: http://au.geocities.com/comptroller_pboro/ C.Brook: http://au.geocities.com/comptroller_pboro/CrystalBrook.htm My Main Site: http://www.trainweb.org/mystation SteamTown ; http://www.trainweb.org/mystation/steamtown.htm ( 4 Sale)

23 years, 5 months

Altair, 3 more months.

by stevenaleach＠mac.com

In approximately 3 months I will be moving from Hawaii back to the mainland and will finally be able to reclaim the computer collection that has been in storage in my parents' barn since 1996 when I left for college. I so hope that the old Altair 8800b is still operational. In highschool I used to use this machine with a 9600 baud modem to call the local BBS, Wrote papers for school in WordStar, played a character-graphics version of Aliens and Pacman.. At the same time, I had a 486 DX4 120 with an SVGA and a monochrome card and monitors (I wrote a tsr that would copy the text contents of the color display onto the mono with one key combination and clear the mono with another, very handy while playing TradeWars 2002 on the local BBS), This machine was always used far more, but the Altair would always get fired up on a regular basis, often for no real reason. The first program I ever wrote on it was in BASIC and just bounced a light back and forth across the front panel display. I can't wait to see the old machine again! The smell of baking dust, the vacuum cleaner roar of the hard drive and the 50's Sci-Fi squeal of the r/w heads moving across the disk, the boxes of 8 inch floppies all bring back so many memories! Anyone else out there with an Altair? Is there anyone actually using a CP/M machine in some productive way? It's sad that even if rats dust and time have not destroyed the beautiful blue machine, I can never really trust storing files on it anymore without backing everything up onto more modern media on my "real" computer (currently an eMac believe it or not.. what a strange trip it's been).

23 years, 5 months

Did anyone else see Sellam on the Screen Savers ?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Screen Savers replays at 11:30 PM to 1:00 AM PST on the West coast of the US. Paxton Astoria, OR

23 years, 5 months

VCF East 2.0 needs some hype

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

Since today is a voting day, my votes are for (1) Providence (2) Boston Because of some personal bad experiences with New York, I would have to vote against it. Anywhere down to Connecticut and I would attend and exhibit. After New York, down to NJ I would attempt to attend, but would probably not be able to exhibit. Megan

23 years, 5 months

Did anyone else see Sellam on the Screen Savers ?

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Tonight I saw (and taped) Sellam on the TechTV Screen Savers program showing off some of his collection. Real cool way to go Sellam. :-)

23 years, 5 months

Data General Eclipse being scrapped

by rdd＠rddavis.org

Greetings, A few minutes ago, I discovered that I received the following message. Can anyone help to save these machines? While I'd love to have a DG Eclipse, have wanted one for years---which was the first largish system that I was ever paid to work with, there's no way that I can get to N.Y. to retrieve then, but perhaps someone else on the list can save these systems from being scrapped. Alas, there isn't much time to rescue them, so time is of the essence; I wish I'd seen this e-mail yesterday. Quothe Eric Kotz, from writings of Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:47:54AM -0500: > Hello, > I saw you are interested in many Data General systems. Where my dad > works, they have a total of 5 Data General Eclipse systems that > are being scrapped. 3 work, two are parts machines (parts machines are > missing the actual racks). I see you guys want Data General hardware-I'm > wondering if you have any interest in these machines. > These would be free for the taking. We also have like lots of > disks/manuals/etc for them. > > Now the caveat:These MUST DISAPPEAR by the weekend. If they are still here > monday, they are scrap. Personally, I can't bear to see these go for > scrap-they are so unique, and the fact that they work still must be more > unique. They were in service up until a month ago. > > The machines are outside Buffalo, NY. If you have any interest, or know > someone that does, please send me an email, or call me at 585-758-3274 > > Thanks, > Eric Kotz > eric(a)erickotz.com > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message has been ROT-26 encrypted for security purposes. Any attempt > to decrypt this message is illegal under the DMCA. -- Copyright (C) 2002 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

23 years, 5 months

Bringing up a 10 years dormant VAX 11/750

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

ouch ! > -----Original Message----- > From: vance(a)neurotica.com [mailto:vance@neurotica.com] > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:32 AM > To: Fred N. van Kempen > Cc: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: Bringing up a 10 years dormant VAX 11/750 > > > > What about being crushed by a PDP-11/70? > > Peace... Sridhar > > On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Fred N. van Kempen wrote: > > > > Agreed, I don't think it would be good if we were to have a > > > list member killed by a classic computer... Directly or > > > indirectly... > > Well, I'd rather be zapped by an PDP-11/70 than a stray bullet > > from some *hole "out there"..... just a thought :) > > > > Stone would read: "Here lies Fred, powered by PDP-11/70.. he couldnt > > take the power..." :) > > > > --f > > > >

23 years, 5 months

Who's got a Heathkit ES-400 or HS-1

by vcf＠siconic.com

John Lawson and I were wondering a short while back, how many Heathkit ES-400 analog computers are known to still exist in the world? It's basically the big fat brother of the EC-1. Here's a picture: http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw/P0758.JPG This one was exhibited by John at VCF 3.0 but is now owned by our good friend Hans and is residing in Munich. There is another in the Computer History Museum's collection. And I have just a front panel to one that I acquired several years back. So how many other people have one of these? And what is the correct model number? I've always known it as the EC-400, but Doug Coward's website says it's correct model is ES-400, but then someone just came to me and said he has a Heathkit catalog listing it as the HS-1. So I'm sure it's either the ES-400 or HS-1, or perhaps both. Anyway, are there any others floating around? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 5 months

DEC Rainbow

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Mike (Kenzie?) asked: >> If I connect a VT-100 to COMM can I still access the CPU's? Tony (err... I guess Dr. Duell, unless I get that $%^& Stylewriter working again... :-) ) replied: >Alas not. It's an MS-DOS and CP/M machine, and doesn't support remote >terminals. Rainbow VENIX was rumored to exist. 1) Anybody know more than that about it? 2) If so, did it support remote terminals? Consoles? UCSD P-system is on ftp.update.uu.se (for anonymous ftp) Same questions as above? - Mark

23 years, 5 months

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