>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Mike wrote:
>>
>> > I would bet monet that no person ever sees a bid placed with 2 or 3
>> > seconds left that has time to react and change their bid.
>>
>> How much monet?
>>
>
>One clod.
I saw an interesting thing happen a couple of years ago, with *silly*
consequences for those involved.
At 20:54 24/04/2003, you wrote:
> > At 18:23 24/04/2003, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >>All this garbage about
> >>extending auctions an extra minute, blah blah blah, is just a dumb idea.
> >
> > I dispute that - the "extension" idea is what happens in a "normal"
> > auction. The auctioneer will take bids until all competing bidders back
> > out, leaving the one winner. This, naturally, maximises the sale price
> > (which is good for the seller & the auction house).
>
>Absolute nonsense! In a normal auction, there is no specified "end time."
Er, so?
> These are two completely different formats. In a normal auction,
>everyone shows up at the same time and bids. Bidding is only for a few
>minutes.
Rather like a typical eBay auction then.
>In an eBay auction (a completely different format) everyone has a very
>long time to decide.
Only because (a) there's so many items on eBay, and (b) it operates in
several time zones. Imagine having to login to eBay every day at 3pm (then
adjust for timezone) just to bid on an item.
>If you had an extended time feature (or pathetic idea) no one would bid on
>a 10 day auction until day 10. There would be no need to, unless you just
>couldn't be around.
So, rather like the current format.
>What you are trying to do is have a completely new format for an auction.
Bullshit. The format is identical, with a built-in "anti-snipe" measure.
>Specified end time with extended provision. You don't have any such
>"NORMAL" auction like this.
Of course you do. "Normal" auctions are held on a specific day, which in
real-world terms is much the same thing as an eBay end time. Hell, you even
have "buy-it-now" (sold prior, in a normal auction format), withdrawn &
changed lots.
>This is like a
>sealed bid auction because the auction ends at a specified time and the
>winners will be those that place last second bids (i.e. not seen by
>others).
Absolute bullshit. A sealed bid auction does not allow you to bid more than
once, nor do you know if your bid has been exceeded. Nor is there any
advantage/disadvantage in bidding early or late, as no-one knows what the
bids are until the auction finishes.
--
Cheers, Ade.
Be where it's at, B-Racing!
http://b-racing.com
At 17:45 28/04/2003, you wrote:
>Here is another interesting thing about sniping. I hear people all the
>time saying that sniping hurts sellers.
>
>However, I have never seen a seller that doesn't like sniping. It's
>always a bidder that complains and never the experienced seller.
I'm extremely tempted to agree with you on this (although I should point
out that I don't really give a monkeys about sniping/not sniping - all of
the auctions I've not won, I wouldn't have paid the final price even if I'd
known it in advance).
The only thing I'd say, which may or may not be seen as a disagreement, is
that we don't /know/ that the eBay fixed end-time model does - or does not
- hurt sellers. Sure, sniping ups the ante in the last few seconds much of
the time - but would it have gone higher with an extending auction? Until
(if) eBay try it, we will never know...
--
Cheers, Ade.
Be where it's at, B-Racing!
http://b-racing.com
As part of an imposed old-hardware clear out, and the decision
on the grounds of space to stick to 5 level tape for which I
have a reader and printer, I've got a Facit 4070 paper tape
punch for sale. In working order, complete with chad box.
Instructions on connecting to a parallel port may be found at
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~pmaydell/misc/cardpunch/dongle.htm
It's in Cambridge, UK and is heavy so would be expensive to post anywhere!
Offers, questions to me at <afrb2(a)cam.ac.uk>
Alan Bain
>It uses ADB mouse and keyboard so if you have that your set. Monitor is
>probably the only problem. An old mac monitor would probably work.
No, it probably won't work with a mac montior. The Mac uses a different
style RGB.
But, the IIgs does have composite video as well as RGB, so you can always
use the composite video in absence of the right RGB monitor.
Mac ADB keyboards and mice are fully compatible with the IIgs.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
A reminder to the list that the TCF 2003 is coming up
this weekend...
28th Annual
TRENTON COMPUTER FESTIVAL(TM)
May 3-4, 2003
NJ Convention Center
in the Raritan Center
Edison, NJ
Info here: http://www.pcshow.com/
While no longer held in Trenton (now in Edison NJ),
it's a worthwhile show for the fleamarket where lots
of classic computers and other hardware (I.C.s, and
other cool things) can often be found cheap!
If you are in traveling distance to Edison NJ, you
might want to make the trip.
While the flea has been getting smaller and smaller,
AND is mostly dominated by recent PC stuff...
There are still classic bargains to be had.
Last year there were several complete Apple II systems
(monitor, drives, CPU, joysticks, software) for $5.00
each.
PowerMac 6100's for $10.00 (A pallet of them).
A dealer was selling DEC Alpha Motherboards.
LaserJet IIIp's for $40.00 (I bought one), and Lexmark
Laser Printers (a small WinPrinter) for $50.00.
Amigas of all stripes were there, lots of older
systems I didn't know much about. I'm sure some of the
"Big Iron" a lot of you here are talking about.
S-100 boards here and there...
Software, and other things...
I'll report anything cool I see.
I'm hoping to pick up a TRS-80 Model I or III (or my
holy grail... an LNW-80), and maybe another Amiga.
I passed up a late model white C-64 for $5.00 last
year. This year, I won't.
I also saw an SX-64 being sold. But didn't want to pay
$100.00 for it. Since it didn't look like it was
working.
That's all!
Regards,
Al
The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
http://search.yahoo.com
If you have a complete 386 DX 66 or higher (box), I might be interested. --
actually, my wife would be more interested. She misses WordStar and the Dr.
Brain series. She'd be in 7th heaven...
Cheers...
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048
Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: John Rollins [mailto:kd7bcy@teleport.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:36 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: 286 Computers (and an Apollo note)
>*But* you can play Castle Wolfenstein 3D on them! ;)
Why keep a 286 around when it does fine on my Mac? I don't play it
much anymore, I bought the new Return to Castle Wolfenstein, someone
told me it's based on the Quake 3 engine. Very nice, but needs a lot
of memory. The Belkin Nostromo game controller really helps, too.
But what am I supposed to do with the old PC's? I'm keeping the more
interesting stuff like my PC and XT. And my personal favorite, the HP
Vectra. But the typical beige box junk is cluttering up my basement.
Everything from 286/386 parts to Pentium MMX systems, what can be
done with them besides recycling the chassis and hoping you'll need
the other parts eventually? I don't imagine many people need or want
that old stuff, even on eBay.
Speaking of eBay, I have some Apollo parts I'm going to put up just
to see what happens. Odd stuff like WD7000 cards and memory cards and
such. Once I gather up most of the other stuff I'll be offering it
here on the list, but if you're interested in getting an old Apollo
chassis and various parts and bits, let me know. I could probably
ship the small stuff, but the big stuff is pretty heavy so I'd prefer
to give it to someone local. I'll post a note here when I get it all
together.
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> > a much preferred model for me. It is where the sale is extended by a
> minute or two
> > when each bid comes in at the end of the auction.
>
This hurts the seller and should make no difference to the bidder.
NO ONE should ever bid more than they are willing to pay. But with
sniping, people often bid a little higher just to protect their bid. If
there is an extention bids will still not rise higher than anyone is
willing to bid.
I have seen auctions go for $400 on items that normally wouldn't sell for
$300. One bidder contacted me because two people bid that $400 and he
said, "I guess I got stuck. I was just trying to protect my bid." He
paid the auction but clearly bid more than he ever expected or wanted to
pay.
The people that whine the most about sniping, NEVER win auctions, unless
they are the first to see a "low" buy-it-now, on popular items. They just
NEVER bid high enough and would lose anyway.
> > eBay prices may be inflated, from a professional dealer's or an
> experienced
> > hobbyist's perspective.
>
Actually, they are not inflated at all. Before ebay, prices were
depressed because of the lack of exposure to the item. Supply and demand
was still at work but the demand side is very much increased by ebay.
On items were there is a fixed supply, like antiques and collectibles, the
only side of the equation that can increase is demand. Therefore, the
price rises to the fair and correct value. Simple!
Of course, those that are whining about not being able to find bargains,
don't believe that. :-)
I have an early 64k 5150 PC, with an internal 10mb hard drive, and
external power supply for the hd, and a Davong controller card.
I figured I'd never get this thing running, but I lucked out and found
another Davong ps and card, plus the original (July 1982) documentation
and installation diskette!!!! $5 plus $20 shipping....a bargain for ebay!
I finally got around to seeing if I could get it working. The drive in
my machine is labelled 10 mg formatted. The docs and installation
software mention 6mb and 12mb formatted drives...not 10mb.
To install it, I followed the instructions in the manual...first, make a
blank formatted bootable dos 1.10 floppy. Then copy the files from the
Davong diskette to the new floppy. Now run the installation program,
which configures and formats the hard drive. At first, I told it that
the drive was 12mb, and it crashed during the installation. I changed to
6mb, and it worked fine.
Now I have a system that boots from the floppy I made, and comes up in
the A: drive...but that is the hard drive! B: is another partition on
the hard drive (volume, actually), and C: is the floppy drive. Wierd to
get used to. But PC DOS 1.x on a hard drive is a rather rare thing. I
have a copy of PC DOS 1.00 also, and the Davong software has support for
it also. That might be my next experiment.
This drive identification scheme is just like on my Kaypro 10, which
runs CP/M on it's hard drive (but the Kayrpo boots from the hard drive,
unlike the PC) The Kaypro has user areas, which act a bit like the
directories on DOS 2.x +
--
Jim
Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum!
http://www.mindspring.com/~jforbes2
Wrong side of the pond is right, I was thinking the same thing (another
working AT board with CPU would be great to fix a machine who's board ate
itself). Toth, where are ya? I've got my Token Ring which has sat here on
the back burner pile since I've been dealing with other things. DB9 to
Vampire connector cables (8ft), an IBM 8228, a 3Com LinkBuilder FMS TR 12,
a Bay Networks BayStack Token Ring Hub 504 series 24port with MDA Fiber
card and Network Management Module, an old AT case, some not-really working
AT 386/486/Pentium boards, an ISA Cirrus Logic video card (worked as of 3
months ago when I last used it), etc. I even have a couple EISA Adaptec
1742 (?) cards floating about. Note: The Token Ring NICs are all PCI and
are IBM and Madge, save one: an ISA Ring Adapter card that has BOTH ISA and
MCA edges (just flip a daughtercard/backplate). Nothing to spare on NICs or
PCI/ISA SCSI though, since they are used in my other boxes. Yours for
shipping and maybe some LED's/kits? can never go wrong with blinky lights
and loud fans, heh. All in all told, probably 2 boxes of stuff, weighing in
at about 30-40 pounds. UPS ground/USPS last I checked to most lower 48
states locations is under $35. Talk more off-list and I can give you a
better number.
-John
john at boff-net dot dhs dot org
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At 03:50 AM 4/27/2003, you wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Apr 2003, Rob O'Donnell wrote:
>
> > Hi, am trying to do a clear-out, and have a hefty box containing the
> > following available FOC to anybody who wants to collect it, from
> > Salford, UK, else it goes in the bin... There is nothing particularly
> > noteworthy here, btw, but it might interest someone.
>
>Darn, on the wrong side of the pond :/
>
> > 10 x 486 motherboards, some with processors, at least one with RAM. AT
> > form factor.
> > 6 x Pentium 1 motherboards, AT form factor
> > 1 x Socket 7 motherboard, ATX form factor. works sometimes..
>
>I've been talking about this off-list for awhile now, but I might as well
>mention something here too. I've been playing with the idea of building a
>Mosix or similar distributed CPU project from old (obsolete? whats that?
>:) 386/486/Pentium boards. I drew up a CAD design for a rack that can hold
>12 such boards on edge. The design uses right angle ISA adapters to allow
>NICs to be plugged into the motherboards.
>
> > I know there are processors and RAM of similar vintage, not to mention
> > SCSI cards, network and video, etc, I can add to it.
>
>-------
>Recycled text from an older email:
>(Maybe I should put up a better list on web page?)
>
>I am looking for certain bits of odd, or in some cases very common PC
>hardware if you happen to come across much in the way of used PC stuff. I
>use such boards for driver development/testing for Linux, BSD, etc for
>older hardware when time permits. Since I don't make money from working
>with free drivers, I can't afford to spend much on the hardware, but I am
>happy to cover shipping costs. [Of course, there is a limit to what I can
>afford, so if lots of people contact me, I may have to ask about putting
>some things on hold...]
>
>The kinds of boards I'm always looking for are:
>
> S3 chipset based video boards, ISA, EISA, VLB, PCI
> Other older ISA, EISA, VLB, PCI video boards (*except* most 'trident'
> chipset)
> Promise Technology caching controllers, ISA, EISA, VLB, etc
> Promise Technology (other boards)
> BusTek, BusLogic, Mylex [all the same company] SCSI controllers
> Adaptec SCSI controllers (practically any type)
> Madge Token Ring cards
> Token Ring cards (3Com, IBM, etc)
> SMC Arcnet and Ethernet cards (some originally made by Western Digital)
>
>The more "unusual" cards are also often helpful, including boards with
>EISA or MCA interfaces. Some old motherboards and such are also quite
>helpful, such as old multi-processor types.
>
>In addition to the kind of hardware above that I can use for driver
>development and testing, 3Com Etherlink III cards of most any type are
>always helpful. I tend to give lots of those away to local schools and
>such, as they are very reliable and were (are?) extremely popular cards.
>-------
>
>-Toth
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Founder, Lead Writer, Tech Analyst
and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies
http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html
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Hi, am trying to do a clear-out, and have a hefty box containing the
following available FOC to anybody who wants to collect it, from Salford,
UK, else it goes in the bin... There is nothing particularly noteworthy
here, btw, but it might interest someone.
10 x 486 motherboards, some with processors, at least one with RAM. AT form
factor.
6 x Pentium 1 motherboards, AT form factor
1 x Socket 7 motherboard, ATX form factor. works sometimes..
4 x ISA internal modems
1 x PCI internal modem
1 x ISA game port card.
All are from stipped down PCs, so may or may not work (though apart from
the ATX board, I'd be pretty confident of them.)
Also have a mountain of Floppy and IDE (ata33) cables whomever can pick
through. I'll also probably be adding to this pile as I work my way
through the boxes. I know there are processors and RAM of similar vintage,
not to
mention SCSI cards, network and video, etc, I can add to it. I have cases
and some (working but 'need adjustment') monitors too I can throw in.
If anybody is interested, drop me an email on robert at irrelevant dot com
or ring on 07801 809928. I don't want to get into mailing individual bits out
I am afraid, this is mainly an effort to make some space so I can work on
a new bedroom! :-)
regards
Rob.
I found some new toys out at Purdue Surplus this week...
2xIBM RS/6000 model 220 -- POWER single chip 33MHz
2xIBM RS/6000 model 250 -- PowerPC 601, 66MHz
The one I opened had both memory and a hard disk, and all but one of them
still had their keys.
These things are nice pizza-box sized things, I'm tempted to try and use
them as X-Terminals, since they do have framebuffers. Has anyone tried
this before?
Pat
--
Purdue University ITAP/RCS
Information Technology at Purdue
Research Computing and Storage
http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu
Hello, all:
Tonight I posted to my Web site the latest release of the Altair32 Emulator
for Windows. Through the hard, and much appreciated work of my closest
project teammates, over the last few months we've made a few bug fixes and
several enhancements that improve the functionality of the Emulator. The
release notes include the complete detail, but the most significant changes
include:
* "Revision 0" front panel graphics.
* Disk drive dialog replaced with bitmap graphics of real disk drive
enhanced with disk sounds.
* Full VT100 terminal support within the Windows Console terminal option.
Now, you can add
color to your BASIC programs by using CHR$ codes.
* Added the option of using a real terminal as the console through the
host's serial port.
* Updated unified configuration dialogs.
* Added the ability to create blank disk files on the fly.
* Revised documentation.
Enjoy the emulator. For the next release we're working on bitmapped
graphics for the paper tape reader and possibly a Z80 CPU "plug-in". If you
have any questions or comments, feel free to drop me a line.
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
Altair32 page: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/Altair32.htm
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Hi,
I posted a question about this to an Amiga newsgroup a while ago, but no-one
there seemed to know much about it.
I have a CD-ROM produced by Commodore-Amiga Inc. labelled CATS Developer CD
V1.0 (CATSCD10). This was probably distributed to registered Amiga
developers circa 1991.
The disc doesn't contain an ISO 9660 filesystem. Examining the raw data
seems to suggest there might be a presentation authored with the IBM
StoryTeller Live! package (StoryTeller Live! was a multimedia authoring
package for DOS PCs, probably similar to Macromedia Director). I have a copy
of the ST.EXE player program on an old magazine cover CD.
One possibility might be that my CD was mis-labelled at the replicator, but
that's unlikely.
If anyone is curious enough to investigate further, I have uploaded a picture
of the CD and image files of its contents to
http://www.a32768.fsnet.co.uk/CATS_CD_V1.0/
(I split the image file into 4MB chunks and compressed each using gzip. To
recreate the file decompress all .gz files, then join them in order.)
Regards,
-- Mark
I have a Data Systems Design DSD 880 Q-Bus drive.
It dates from 1982 or 1983, and is a RL02 emulator (as I
remember); there's a big old 8" drive (Shugart, I think) in
a 19" wide rack mount. Also, there's a Q-Bus interface.
The last time I used it was maybe 1985, but more likely
1984, and it worked. It could be set to look like an RL02
with 5 mb but also you could set it up to give something
like 7 or 8 mb, as I remember.
A quick look in the old documentation box doesn't show
anything there for it.
I have no Q-Bus equipment on which to test it; I wouldn't
bet on its working at the moment, but it might. Storage
conditions have been, let's say, casual.
I'd be happy to let it go for ACTUAL SHIPPING COST. It's
located in Buffalo, NY.
Don Mitchell
Hi,
On 21 April 2003 Stuart Johnson wrote:
>Yes, I managed to get a manual, by watching auctions on eBay. In fact, I
>bought another HP 5036A plus manual and let the seller keep the hardware to
>save shipping costs from England to the US. The manual is softcover and
>would not be easy to copy without cutting the spine off, which would ruin
>its value.
Coincidentally enough, I bought a copy of the 5036A service manual (HP part
no. 05036-90001) a few weeks ago. Is that very different from the user
manual? It says the microfiche part no. is 05036-90002. Maybe it's still
available on microfiche from HP? Okay, that's doubtful...
Along with that was a book titled "SC-MPUTER (2)" from Elektor publishers
dated 1980. Has anyone come across an SC-MPUTER? It may only have been sold
in kit form.
Regards,
-- Mark
From: Marvin Johnston <marvin(a)rain.org>
<< Things I would like to see in a ClassicCmp auction site:
links/descriptions of equipment that could be incorporated in listings
a mechanism to allow trades of equipment
a way of qualifying buyers and sellers before they list/bid/trade. >>
This last one is very interesting. In what way(s) would you qualify anyone to
participate in the auctions? A ClassicCmp auction and/or trade site would be
a great idea, but I'd bet that anyone who still wanted the most money for
their item, would still list it on eBay for the most exposure and money
potential. This can't really be escaped. There will be the ongoing problem of
people just posting eBay auctions to the auction/trades site too.
Best, David
David Greelish
Classic Computing
www.classiccomputing.com
"classiccomputing" on eBay
Hi All,
Thanks for the help with LIF formats and CS80 protocol. I now have the bare
bones of an application working.
Currently the application runs on a PC fitted with a NI GPIB board.
It reads LIF formatted hardrives (in my case one of two 9133's that I have)
extracting the file catalog. A file can then be selected from the catalog
and its binary image written to the PC's hard drive. This means that I can
back-up the files on one of the 9133 drives before reformatting it :)
That's as far as I've got at the moment - it has taken rather longer than I
had first hoped but seems to be pretty stable now.
I could write some more code to allow sets of files to be selected from the
binary images stored on the PC and then written back to the CS80 protocol
hard drive (either re-formatting the hard drive or appending the new files
to the existing catalog).
This would allow easy file interchange (and back-up) for people with CS80 /
LIF based computers.
Perhaps a database of binaries / files could be made available on the
internet to download as required?
What would the copyright implications be if such a database were made
available?
Would there be any interest from people with 9000 200 and 300 systems on the
list?
If there is enough interest I will look doing the extra coding sooner rather
than putting it on the pile of things that I 'really shoud do one day'.
Cheers
Peter Brown
_________________________________________________________________
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2724747600&category=1247
Someone in Minneapolis/St. Paul has quite a lot of IBM punched card
equipment up for sale. They mention 029, 077, 129, 514, and 526 -- it
looks like a large number of punches with perhaps one each of the 077,
514, and 526.
The auction ends in 8 days and is for "the right to contact me on the
above machines" -- so it looks like, if you want some or all of the
equipment, you'll have a chance to make a deal rather than take it en
bloc.
Norm
The suit is over the process of running the auction which another person
patented in the early 90s. It is an interesting suit. At one time in 2000 or
so eBay offered to pay licensing fees, then opted to fight it.
Actually, as a seller, I think the eBay process sucks. It is the second best
bidder that really sets the price. The advantage really is to the bidder.
Another very successful Internet auction run by LabX is a much preferred
model for me. It is where the sale is extended by a minute or two when each
bid comes in at the end of the auction. WWW.labx.com
I do much better for lab equipment here than on eBay. Auctions are much more
like real auctions. LabX is a totally different, more real auction model.
Very successful also.
I did an interesting experiment with some identical Olympus microscope tubes
(parts). They did sell for much more on eBay than LabX (av $75 vs. $20). On
the other hand an IBM HPLC did much better on LabX than eBay ($400 vs $35)
and saw a lot of action at the end.
To keep this on topic I do find classic computers on the LabX auction site
that were primarily used as lab controllers. They often go cheap.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
Hi All,
Isn't cleaning fun? I've dug up the following stuff. Let me know off
list if your interested. Cost plus actual shipping. I'm asking for
paypal this time. Unless your in Michigan you can always pick up.
Here's what I dug up this time.
Books at $2.00 each
How to Build your own working robot pet - Dacosta -1979 (excellent -
uses 8085)
178 IC Designs & Applications - Mendelson - 1984
Handbook of simplified solid-state circuit design - Lenk - 1971
Fiberoptics - Kuecken - Tab books - 1980
================================
Manuals at $1.00 each or all for $4.00
(for the Apple II - I don't even own one)
Synergizer CP/M User's manual
Master Diagnostics + plus from Nikrom
Bag of Tricks by Don worth and Peter Lechner from Quality Software
(probably close to 100 pages)
RanaSystems Elite Controller Manual
(and for the Atari ST)
ICD AdSCSI ST Series Manual
================================
A pair of Mitsubishi Luma 1000 video phones - 1986 (not vintage
computer but still cool) $50 for the set
Okay, I'm still cleaning. I'm sorry to have to say this but if you
have written me before and have not followed through on a previous
transaction I'm going to have to ignore your email. I understand that
things come up but when you can't take 2 minutes to drop me an email
and let me know what's going on then.....
Okay, enough of that.
How about something I'm looking for. Does anyone have an Intersil 6100
chip that they might be willing to part with?
Let me know.
Thanks
Rob
The last two times I posted this, another person contacted
me either for help or to request the CDs. This will be the
last time for about 6 months unless more people reply.
In regard to the Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11
that Tim Shoppa originally produced:
I am in the middle of finishing a second (very small) batch
of CDs and could easily add a few additional copies.
I will be making all copies of the CD images from:
ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RSX-11/
Since not everyone has both a high speed internet connection
and a CD burner, I thought it would be helpful to make them
available. If you have both requirements and are using
Windows 98 SE / Nero Burning, I can help with the details
if you don't know how to burn a CD from an "Image File".
I have even been able to produce a label for each
CD that is close to the original label from Tim Shoppa,
although since they were scanned (THANK YOU
FOR THE HELP), they are not perfect.
They are available at $ 5 / $ 9 / $ 12 for 1 / 2 / 3 CDs.
In addition, I understand that Memorex Black CD-Rs have a
longer shelf life and are available at Business Depot. If anyone
wants those instead, add $ 1 for each CD that you are
requesting. Thus those amounts are $ 6 / $ 11 / $ 15
Please contact me directly for my snail mail address.
I picked up some Memorex Black CD-R blanks and started
on the copies for those who have already requested that a
Black CD-R be used.
Please include your mailing address!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In general, I will regard any funds you send as a gift so that if
anyone really can't afford the CDs, please state why that is so.
Outside of the US, probably about $ 2 should be sufficient
for extra postage. All amounts are in US dollars. Please ask
if you are not in the US. No point in converting twice.
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
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