From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com>
>Hello all, I've got a VT340 that is very fuzzy. (blurry) I'd like to try
>and refocus it but I don't have the maintenance manual for this
terminal.
>Does anyone have any suggestions on where to start (well I'm going to
start
>by seeing if the yoke has slipped backward on the tube neck, but other
than
>that)
The focus pot is part of the flyback as is the HV adjust. I believe the
Yoke
is bonded on that tube so movement is unlikely.
Allison
Same way you would for floppy only slower.
I'd make a bootable floppy first and put the DU/MU drivers
on it plus anything else you need as RX50 is has enough room for
a useable system. Then I think, you need DUP and BUP on there.
I have the capability but I backup to RL02 as it's much faster.
Also that RD54 (159mb) will likely be partitioned into 5 drives
as RT-11 can only address up to 32mb disks.
Allison
From: emanuel stiebler <emu(a)ecubics.com>
>I have rd54 & rx50 & tk70 in a system running rt11 5.4
>
>How can I make an bootable backup tape of the system drive ?
>
>cheers & thanks,
>emanuel
>
From: Jay West <west(a)tseinc.com>
>Several bugs were found in the list archives at www.classiccmp.org and
these
>have all been fixed to the best of my knowledge. If anyone sees anything
>further, please let me know asap.
Jay, the email address for me is changed. I was getting burried in
UCE/SPAM
so the replacement is kb1gmx(a)qsl.net.
Allison
From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net>
> Here's a question somewhat related. As mentioned previously,
>I had two Maxtor XT-8380E hard disks in my MicroVAX II, but removed
>one of them to put the TK-50 in the machine. I've never gotten the
>TK-50 working correctly though and would like to use the second hard
>disk to back up the data that's on the one that is still in the
>machine. It is running VMS 4.6. What is the best way of mirroring
>the first drive on the second, regardless of what might be on the
>second? I'll likely pull the second drive back out after copying the
>data over to it. Without any kind of media or a working TK-50, this
>is really the only option I have for backing up the data and
>restoring it in case of a problem later on.
Easy run INIT the target disk and run standalone backup with /image
>from dua0: to duan: I generally do that. You can close the OS that
way too but only if you dont fully configure it first. Run HELP for
details.
Allison
Allison
We spent a lot of time testing the classiccmp mailing list - couldn't find a
single problem. There were one or two people who said they were getting the
digests twice, but they never gave me details. The only thing I can think
of, is that they were having problems with their pop mail session to their
ISP? If you start to download your mailbox of say 50 messages, and the
connection is lost (not the internet connection, but the pop session), the
server will re-transmit the entire batch so you'll keep getting those
messages over again until a complete sucessful download occurs - then it
will mark them as deleted on the server end. Again, this would be an issue
with the ISP, not us. If anyone still has problems or can supply further
details, please let me know.
Several bugs were found in the list archives at www.classiccmp.org and these
have all been fixed to the best of my knowledge. If anyone sees anything
further, please let me know asap.
Regards,
Jay West
From: emanuel stiebler <emu(a)ecubics.com>
>> I'd make a bootable floppy first and put the DU/MU drivers
>> on it plus anything else you need as RX50 is has enough room for
>> a useable system. Then I think, you need DUP and BUP on there.
>> I have the capability but I backup to RL02 as it's much faster.
>
>My intention was to get rid of the floppy drive. (And get a smaller
>system this way)
>What I was (probably ;-) really asking,
>if there is anything like the BRU & SAVESET combination we know
>from RSX11.
I thought I mentioned BUP, yes it did.
Allison
Browsing the surplus stores today - came across three things I don't have
any interest in... maybe someone does - if so, email me.
Calcomp 1034 (Or was it 1038?) plotter. This thing is BIG. Appears to be in
good cosmetic shape, have no idea if it works or not.
AT&T PC 6300
Something called an AT&T 6386 (or something like that) WGS. Noticed a few
recent posts on the list about this machine too.
Jay West
Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> EDS (my mistype) is Ross Perot's company and they now have a
> signed contract with the Dept. of Navy to take over the LANs and
> pretty much every other aspect of computers and thier maintainance.
> NMCI is the arm of the company doing it. The contract is for an
> astronimical amount of money and the closest comparison is the Borg:
> they are coming in, taking all exisiting equipment, replacing it with
> a 'one size fits all' desktop and charging you handsomely for both
> the replacement and every little thing you want to do with it.
Y'all might want to wander over to alt.tasteless and look for a thread
titled something like "Near Ape Shit At Work Today". Seems someone
did not like his Mac being replaced and so attacked the EDS staffer(s)
who came to do the deed with a hacksaw. However he was not
successful.
-Frank McConnell
On Apr 6, 18:12, John Honniball wrote:
> Are you thinking of the Pertec magnetic tape interface? I
> have a Cifer front-loading half-inch magtape drive that
> (I'm told) has the Pertec interface. It has two large
> 50-way ribbon cables coming out of the back.
>
> So, much as I hate to say "Me Too", I'd also like to find
> out more about the Pertec interface. Was there ever a PC
> ISA-bus card for this? Or a VME (Sun-3) card?
I'm sure there are VME cards. Dunno about ISA.
I've posted the pinout for the 2 x 50-way interface on my website at
http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/pertec.ps. It's a PostScript file.
I can't remember where the information originally came from, it was either
an Emulex TC02 manual or the manual for my tape deck.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> wrote:
> FWIW I do consider the 9000 520 an odd machine. Perhaps unusual would be
> a better term. I've been collecting HP computers for a good number of years
> and I've never seen one before. I found (and bought) one a couple of weeks
> ago. Before that the only person that I know of that actually had one was
> Frank McConnell. My research indicates that there were a lot 520s used by
> the US navy and some of it's subcontractors but few elsewhere. Even my
> contacts at HP tell me that the 520 was problematic and was very late
> getting into production and was a commercail failure. Despite the large
> number of them used by the US Navy, very few managed to get into the
> surplus market. I couldn't find a single surplus dealer that had one or
> that even knew what they were.
The 9000/500 may have been a commercial failure, but HP learned a lot
>from it -- its I/O bus (later known as CIO I think) was adopted by the
PA-RISC 9000/800 (and 3000/900) machines. I expect this meant the
machines had trade-in value for their I/O cards (as well as the gold
and copper in the CPU, IOP, and memory cards, which are all
surprisingly heavy from the copper core and shiny from the
characteristic HP gold plating).
The packaging is interesting, especially on the CPU/IOP/memory cards:
the boards don't have sockets for the ICs. Instead, there is a cavity
in the non-conductive board material, exposing the copper sheet at the
core of the board. The IC substrate is bound to this copper core, and
its bond-out wires are soldered to the traces on the board. Then a
lid is fitted over the cavity(ies) to protect the ICs and bond-out
wires. This was done to carry heat away from the ICs, which ran from
a 16MHz clock and did a pretty good job of turning electricity into
heat.
It was also HP's first entry into the Unix market. The 520 could also
be a BASIC workstation (a high-powered multiprocessor replacement for
the 9845!) but I have not seen any configured that way.
It was also HP's last big stack machine, or at least the last one
that made it to market. (Maybe Lee Courtney can tell us more about
Vision.)
HP contracted with The Wollongong Group to provide TCP/IP transport
and application software for HP-UX v5 on these in the mid-to-late
1980s. I started working at TWG in 1989, by which time engineering
support for the product was over, and soon found that from their point
of view, 9000s and 3000s were all the same and so I got to support
that product as well. That was my first introduction to it.
Then I found the FOCUS machine instruction set manual in TWG's
library. Oh my. It's a 32-bit stack machine, sort of a big 3000.
Oh my.
Then I got to investigating a remsh crash that took me deep into the
kernel. That was how I became a TCP/IP stack internals kind of guy.
My memories are dim and distant (TWG ended support for the 9000/500s
in early 1994 I think, due to no sales and no contract renewals), but
most of the customers I talked to were either US military or
contractors.
Its Unix port has some oddities. It was ported on top of another HP
OS called SUNOS that provided low-level generic services to both BASIC
and HP-UX, and the AT&T filesystem was layered on top of an HP
filesystem structure called Structured Directory Format or SDF. SDF
makes itself visible by the absence of . and .. in directories -- ls
and open() will fake them as needed, but if your code opens the
directory and reads it they aren't there!
I don't think it has the concept of partitioning a disc into multiple
filesystems: one disc volume is one filesystem, no way around it.
Swap space is taken as needed from whatever free space is available on
at least the / volume, maybe others too. Strange but nice in its own
way.
-Frank McConnell
Curt Vendel <curt(a)atari-history.com> wrote:
> Old Odd Machine??? The HP 9000 K520 isn't that terribly old, I
But that's different iron, obviously named by someone with no sense of
what had gone before, or someone who thought that alphabet soup and a
few years would be enough to avoid confusion. The 9000 Series 520 aka
9020 aka 9000 Model 20 was one of the first machines to ship under the
9000 label, a 32-bit (potentially-)multiprocessing stack architecture
>from 1982.
Take a look at <http://www.reanimators.org/hp/> for some pictures of
an Integral (top) and my 9000/520 (bottom). I think you will agree,
it's not what you're thinking of.
-Frank McConnell
Our hospital now considers any computers less than 300 MHz as "old" and
needing to be replaced. Most of our software venders now say that anything
less than that is not acceptable for their applications, most also want 64
Mb of memory.
Our department still uses 486/33's and WordPerfect 5.1 for word processing
and they are very reliable.
mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
>From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com>
>Subject: Re: HP 9000 520
>
> I've been noticing a very disturbing trend...anything that isn't an
>overclocked Intel box is "old" or "legacy".
>
> For those of us who care about the quality of what we put on our
>desktops (and in our computer rooms), this is pretty frightening.
>
> -Dave McGuire
>>Thanks Allison! I got the cover off and found the adjustment side of
the
>>terminal (left side looking at it from the front) and the focus is a
screw
>>that goes into what looks like an HV transformer. I've adjusted it to
be
>>razor sharp, now what do I use to "lock it down" ? What is that stuff
that
>>looks like nail polish called?
>>
>>--Chuck
It might just be nail polish. I often use that as it's handy and
available cheap
at the corner store.
Fashon sense demands I make a point of using leftover last years colors.
;)
Allison
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:28:22 -0700 Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
writes:
> >I can just imagine the Pro-M$ History aka... propoganda!!!
>
> Yeah I can just see the entry lobby with a copy of PC DOS 1.0 next
> to the original source.
You forgot to add that the accompanying blurb would explain how
Bill G. wrote it (single-handedly) over a 72 hour period after
IBM requested he write them an OS. :^/
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I was in a local electronic surplus store today and bought some old
laptops at what I consider a good price. 2 Grid 1520s, a Grid 1755,
a Commodore C386SX, a DEC PCP11, and an External SCSI HD for $75
All lacking power supplies tho. I had power packs for the 1520s and
they're both working but one has the same problem that Mike Ford has
with his Grids- password protected. It's now sitting unassembled on my
work table while I search for the battery to see if shorting or removing that
will get rid of the P-W. While I have programs to zap the Award and AMI
BIOS' ,unfortunately this is a Phoenix.
The Grids all have a socket also for a 16v transformer and it appears to
be the same as the DECs 15v so I am looking for either a Grid or DEC
transformer. The Commodore has an 8pin mini socket for power and a
16v battery.
In examining the 1755 and DEC closer I see that they are identical except
for color. Who would have made these for Grid and DEC ? Kyocera ?
larry
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)look.ca
You know, I've signed-up for that a few times and *never* received my
handbook. I get the advertising, but no book. If anyone actually does get a
handbook, I'd like to know...
Rich
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ford [mailto:mikeford@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:36 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Free PC handbook
I got this in the mail today, and I am just passing it on. I don't know
what happens when the registration gets filled out without a VIP code, but
its a nice free book if it works.
http://www.advantechdirect.com
My VIP code is NCE011IAG20011B42584 which looks like it is just my code,
but if it is its not smart enough to already know who I was. I suggest not
filling out the reg unless you have an interest in the products, industrial
computers, rack mount, etc. If you are a legitamite user/buyer of this kind
of stuff I can't see them griping about the offer being passed around.
The free book is the neat PC Handbook, with all the facts on PC parts etc.
In a message dated 4/5/01 8:36:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
jpero(a)sympatico.ca writes:
> any
> suggestions for inexpensive s-video cables?
This is a funny thread. Going around in a circle
I have been using cheap ADB cables for S-video cables in my video work. I
have found all the ADB cables I need for $1 each at the Eugene, Oregon
Goodwill store.
Paxton
Portland, OR
Hi Curt Vendel, you wrote on 4/6/01 8:32:07 PM:
A HP 9000 Model 520 would be roughly 15 years old.
I administered a couple about 10 years ago. ran
HPUX 5.x. Great systems, reliable.
A newer Model 800 series K5xx would be cool to have as well.
So, the question is, exactly which model is it?
kelly
>Joe,
>
> Old Odd Machine??? The HP 9000 K520 isn't that terribly old, I
>installed
>one of those with HPUX 11.3 at GT Interactive in Manhattan back in 95' A
>damn good and powerful machine.
>
>
>Curt
>
>
>
>Joe wrote:
>
> FWIW there were two of these for sale at the auction at the Goddard
>Space
> Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama this past week. A guy that I know
>went
> to the auction and I asked him to try and pick them up for me but I don't
> know if he did or not. He should be back in a day or two and then I'll
> know. The point is there's still lots of these old odd machines around if
> someone is willing to search for them.
>
> Joe
Well here it is......
I hooked the Vax up to my IBM Model 80 with Tera Term. Anybody have any
other favorite terminal programs?
What should I be able to see from the below info?
>>>show mem
Memory 0: 00000000 to 003FFFFF, 4MB, 0 bad pages
Memory 1: 00400000 to 00BFFFFF, 8MB, 0 bad pages
Memory 2: 00C00000 to 01BFFFFF, 16MB, 0 bad pages
Memory 3: 01C00000 to 02BFFFFF, 16MB, 0 bad pages
Total of 44MB, 0 bad pages, 118 reserved pages
>>>show dev
DSSI Node 0 (TSD4A)
-DIA0 (RF71)
DSSI Node 1 (R5ARYC)
-DIA23 (RF35)
DSSI Node 2 (R5DKVC)
-DIA20 (RF35)
DSSI Node 7 (*)
UQSSP Tape Controller 0 (774500)
-MUA0 (TK70)
Ethernet Adapter
-ESA0 (08-00-2B-12-41-19)
>>>show qbus
Scan of Qbus I/O Space
-20000120 (760440) = 0080 (300) DHQ11/DHV11/CXA16/CXB16/CXY08
-20000122 (760442) = F081
-20000124 (760444) = DD18
-20000126 (760446) = 0140
-20000128 (760450) = 0000
-2000012A (760452) = 0000
-2000012C (760454) = 8000
-2000012E (760456) = 0000
-20001940 (774500) = 0000 (260) TQK50/TQK70/TU81E/RV20/KFQSA-TAPE
-20001942 (774502) = 0BC0
-20001F40 (777500) = 0020 (004) IPCR
Scan of Qbus Memory Space
>>>help
Following is a brief summary of all the commands supported by the
console:
UPPERCASE denotes a keyword that you must type in
| denotes an OR condition
[] denotes optional parameters
<> denotes a field that must be filled in
with a syntactically correct value
Valid qualifiers:
/B /W /L /Q /INSTRUCTION
/G /I /V /P /M
/STEP: /N: /NOT
/WRONG /U
Valid commands:
DEPOSIT [<qualifiers>] <address> [<datum> [<datum>]]
EXAMINE [<qualifiers>] [<address>]
MOVE [<qualifiers>] <address> <address>
SEARCH [<qualifiers>] <address> <pattern> [<mask>]
SET BFLG <boot_flags>
SET BOOT <boot_device>[:]
SET HOST/DUP/DSSI <node_number> [<task>]
SET HOST/DUP/UQSSP </DISK | /TAPE> <controller_number> [<task>]
SET HOST/DUP/UQSSP <physical_CSR_address> [<task>]
SET HOST/MAINTENANCE/UQSSP/SERVICE <controller_number>
SET HOST/MAINTENANCE/UQSSP <physical_CSR_address>
SET LANGUAGE <language_number>
SHOW BFLG
SHOW BOOT
SHOW DEVICE
SHOW DSSI
SHOW ETHERNET
SHOW LANGUAGE
SHOW MEMORY [/FULL]
SHOW QBUS
SHOW RLV12
SHOW UQSSP
SHOW VERSION
HALT
INITIALIZE
UNJAM
CONTINUE
START <address>
REPEAT <command>
X <address> <count>
FIND [/MEMORY | /RPB]
TEST [<test_code> [<parameters>]]
BOOT [/R5:<boot_flags> | /<boot_flags>] [<boot_device>[:]]
NEXT [count]
CONFIGURE
HELP
>>>boot
No default boot device has been specified.
Available devices.
-DIA0 (RF71)
-DIA23 (RF35)
-DIA20 (RF35)
-MUA0 (TK70)
-ESA0 (08-00-2B-12-41-19)
Device? [ESA0]: dia0
(BOOT/R5:0 DIA0)
2..
-TSD4A$DIA0
1..0..
%SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping the SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk
%SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT SYSDUMP.DMP on System Disk successfully mapped
OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version V6.2 Major version id = 1 Minor version
id = 0
%DECnet-I-LOADED, network base image loaded, version = 05.08.00
PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM)
PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM) 04-APR-2001
%SYSINIT, primary PAGEFILE.SYS not found; system initialization
continuing
$! Copyright (c) 1995 Digital Equipment Corporation. All rights
reserved.
%STDRV-I-STARTUP, OpenVMS startup begun at 4-APR-2001 00:02:05.12
%DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling
\B$\
>>> Starting TCPIP ... <<<
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, USER mounted on _$1$DIA20: (R5DKVC)
%MOUNT-I-REBUILD, volume was improperly dismounted; rebuild in progress
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, USER2 mounted on _$1$DIA23: (R5ARYC)
%MOUNT-I-REBUILD, volume was improperly dismounted; rebuild in progress
%DCL-S-SPAWNED, process SYSTEM_1 spawned
%SET-I-NEWAUDSRV, identification of new audit server process is 0000010A
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:24.51 %%%%%%%%%%%
Operator _ALERTN$OPA0: has been enabled, username SYSTEM
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:25.13 %%%%%%%%%%%
Operator status for operator _ALERTN$OPA0:
CENTRAL, PRINTER, TAPES, DISKS, DEVICES, CARDS, NETWORK, CLUSTER,
SECURITY,
LICENSE, OPER1, OPER2, OPER3, OPER4, OPER5, OPER6, OPER7, OPER8, OPER9,
OPER10,
OPER11, OPER12
%LICENSE-W-TERM, UNICM 99302-323 License has terminated
%SYSTEM-W-PROXYCONVERT, old-format proxy database needs to be converted
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:38.55 %%%%%%%%%%%
Failed logfile operation on file _ALERTN$OPA0:
SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]OPERATOR.LOG;
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:39.15 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:39.16 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
%LICENSE-E-TERM, UNICM 99302-323 License has terminated
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:39.16 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
%QMAN-W-CRITCLSPACE, free more space on _$1$DIA0 - allocated only 20% of
520 blo
cks needed for full journal file
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:39.17 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:40.21 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
%QMAN-E-OPENERR, error opening
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]SYS$QUEUE_MANAGE
R.QMAN$JOURNAL;1
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:40.21 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
-RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocation)
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:40.22 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
-SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:40.50 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
%QMAN-E-NODISKSPACE, disk space not available for queue manager to
continue
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:40.51 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
-QMAN-I-FREEDISK, free up 1044 blocks on disk _$1$DIA0
Copyright (c) Digital Equipment Corporation 1993, 1994. All rights
reserved.
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:42.69 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
%SECSRV-E-NOPROXYDB, cannot find proxy database file NET$PROXY.DAT
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:42.87 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
%SECSRV-E-NOPROXYDB, cannot find proxy database file NET$PROXY.DAT
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:42.94 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
%SECSRV-I-SERVERSTARTINGU, security server starting up
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:43.81 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
%SECSRV-I-CIASTARTINGUP, breakin detection and evasion processing now
starting u
p
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:44.43 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:46.76 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:48.98 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%SHOW-F-WRITEERR, error writing
SYS$SYSROOT:[SYS$STARTUP]NET$STARTUP_CHECKPRIVS.
DAT;4
-RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocation)
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:53.80 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:56.42 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:58.97 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:01.75 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
>>> Executing SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM for VMS 6.2 startup procedure <<<
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:04.08 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on ALERTN,
system id: 62
474
Auditable event: Audit server starting up
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:02.41
PID: 00000103
Username: SYSTEM
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Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file removal
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:03.73
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]ANALIMDMP.EXE;1
INSTALL flags: /PRIVILEGED
Privileges: CMKRNL,CMEXEC
%MOUNT-F-VOLALRMNT, another volume of same label already mounted
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:06.23 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%MOUNT-F-VOLALRMNT, another volume of same label already mounted
%SYSGEN-W-OPENIN, error opening $1$DIA20:[000000]PAGEFILE2.SYS; as input
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
>>> Disk Startup Complete <<<
>>> Disk startup procedure completed <<<
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:09.01 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
Copyright (c) 1995 Digital Equipment Corporation. All rights reserved.
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:12.38 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%AMDS-I-RMSTART, starting Data Provider processing for this node
%AMDS-I-LOADSECDB, loading security database
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:14.57 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%AMDS-S-RMSUCCESS, Data Provider startup successful
>>> Terminals Startup Complete <<<
>>> Terminals startup procedure completed <<<
>>> Accounting disable procedure completed <<<
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:17.13 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:19.09 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:19.05
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]UCX$ACCESS_SHR.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/SHARED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:19.78 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:20.07 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:20.04
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSMSG]UCX$MSG.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/SHARED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:20.96 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:20.92
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]UCX$IPC_SHR.EXE;2
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/SHARED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:21.94 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:21.90
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]UCX$RPCXDR_SHR.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/SHARED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:22.30 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:22.90 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:22.86
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]UCX$CFS_SHR.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/SHARED/PROTECTED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:23.93 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:23.89
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$UCP.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/HEADER_RESIDENT/SHARED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:24.87 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:28.27 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:31.01 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:33.59 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:33.55
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$BIND_SERVER.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/HEADER_RESIDENT/SHARED/PRIVILEGED
Privileges: OPER
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:34.05 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:34.58 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:34.54
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$BIND_SERVER_XFER.EX
E;2
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/HEADER_RESIDENT/SHARED/PRIVILEGED
Privileges: OPER
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:36.34 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:36.30
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$FTPC.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/HEADER_RESIDENT/SHARED/PRIVILEGED
Privileges: PSWAPM,OPER
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:36.54 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:36.60 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - DELETING ERRFMT PROCESS
ERROR LOG FILE UNWRITABLE
TO RESTART ERRFMT PROCESS, USE "@SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP ERRFMT"
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:37.73 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:37.69
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$FTPD.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/HEADER_RESIDENT/SHARED/PRIVILEGED
Privileges: SYSNAM,DETACH,WORLD,BYPASS
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:39.47 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:39.44
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$FTP.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/HEADER_RESIDENT/SHARED/PRIVILEGED
Privileges: PSWAPM,OPER
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:41.00 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:40.97
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]UCX$LPD_SHR.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/SHARED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:41.68 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:41.65
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$LPD_RCV.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /PRIVILEGED
Privileges: BYPASS
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:05:40.50 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
%QMAN-E-NODISKSPACE, disk space not available for queue manager to
continue
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:05:40.52 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
-QMAN-I-FREEDISK, free up 1044 blocks on disk _$1$DIA0
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:07:40.50 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
%QMAN-E-NODISKSPACE, disk space not available for queue manager to
continue
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:07:40.52 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
-QMAN-I-FREEDISK, free up 1044 blocks on disk _$1$DIA0
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:09:40.51 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
%QMAN-E-NODISKSPACE, disk space not available for queue manager to
continue
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:09:40.52 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
-QMAN-I-FREEDISK, free up 1044 blocks on disk _$1$DIA0
?02 EXT HLT
PC = 82221B4D
>>>show boot
DIA0
>>>
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Does anyone know what a Kinetic Systems Corp model D1391 dual wide Q-bus
board is?
It has two 40 pin connectors, they look kind of like the M3107 (8 port
async) but they connect to resistor packs so I'm thinking either a parallel
port or bus extender. There are several DS8833 chips (Nat'l Semi) and what
looks like a CSR switch pack. An M7951 clone perhaps?
--Chuck
In a message dated 4/6/01 5:11:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ecloud(a)bigfoot.com writes:
> Yep that monitor looks a lot like one I have... but mine has a logo
> that says "LexiData", I think. It has 10 BNC connectors (separate
> sync, and a set of pass-through connectors I guess).
>
LexiDatas are more of a RGB separate sync monitor. Very similar chassis.
I bought and sold one of the Sun 1s in 1988. Got it surplus from a local
computer dealer, I think it was a lease return, and sold it for $500 to the
computer department of Stanford University. They were still using some of
them.
Thanks for the pictures. It brought back memories.
Paxton
Portland, Oregon
Hello all, I've got a VT340 that is very fuzzy. (blurry) I'd like to try
and refocus it but I don't have the maintenance manual for this terminal.
Does anyone have any suggestions on where to start (well I'm going to start
by seeing if the yoke has slipped backward on the tube neck, but other than
that)
--Chuck
Umm, this story is also something around 20 or more years old, too, based in
my recollection in the universal jfvts (Jennings Family Vehicle Time Scale).
We had our Volkswagon Quantum then, meaning I was at most 14 or so, and the
story was old already, I think I happened in the mid-80's...
Will J
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On Apr 6, 12:53, Mike Ford wrote:
> >> Are you thinking of the Pertec magnetic tape interface? I
> >> have a Cifer front-loading half-inch magtape drive that
> >> (I'm told) has the Pertec interface. It has two large
> >> 50-way ribbon cables coming out of the back.
>
> One of the people on another list was asking about a "early SCSI" cable
> that used 2 x 50pin ribbon cables on a hard drive. Was there such a SCSI,
> or is it likely he has a pertec drive?
Much more likely Pertec than SCSI. Original SCSI, and SASI before it, are
50-wire interfaces. However, if he means that an external box had 2 x
50-pin connectors, it could be SCSI; they usually have two sockets so you
can daisy-chain them, or plug in a terminator on the last box.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
In a message dated 4/6/01 10:20:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk writes:
> Was there ever a PC
> ISA-bus card for this?
Yes, there was but I don't remember who made it. I had a customer who bought
tape drives from me. He brought over a PC (probably a 286) with an ISA card
Pertec interface. We tested drives with it till he found the ones he liked.
Worked well.
Paxton
Portland, OR
Ok, the reservation list now consists of:
Dave McGuire
Alex Knight
Pete Turnbull
Ethan Dicks
Mike Haas
Robert Cobbins
Tony Eros
Mike Cheponis
Chandra Baipai
Richard Cini
I now have about 50 parts spoken for, which leaves about 7. A
couple people have asked for 10 chips, and if there's still demand after
I run out I might ask them if they'd be satisfied with fewer so more
people can get some.
I sorted all the parts and it turns out that five of them are 1802CE
and the rest are BCE. Does anybody know the difference? My databook
doesn't cover the BCE. Some people have asked for some CE and some BCE
parts and it would be nice to know how to divide them up fairly (and
whether or not I would want to keep any of the CEs for myself :)
I probably won't get around to dividing them up and packaging them
till some time early next week. At that point, I'll get back in touch
with everybody on the list to confirm and work out the shipping and
payment details.
JCE
--
Joel Ewy
spamthis_ewy(a)southwind.net
http://www2.southwind.net/~ewy
In fooling with my Mac PM7100av and AudioVision monitor I noticed that
the Apple ADB connector and the standard s-video connector are the same.
Any data on this ? And does it mean that a cheap s-video cable could be
used in place of relatively expensive(Apple like IBM ain't cheap) ADB cables ?
larry
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)look.ca
Here's the list of people who've contacted me so far requesting
CDP-1802s from my stash (in order received):
Dave McGuire
Alex Knight
Pete Turnbull
Ethan Dicks
Mike Haas
for a total of 24 parts. I hope I haven't missed anybody.
I think I'll keep about 5 of the original 62. So there would be
about 33 still unspoken for.
I couldn't stand it anymore yesterday afternoon, and went to my
folks' place to dig them out and ended up hauling home a ton of old
computer junk that I already don't have room for in my basement. But my
dad, being as much of a pack rat as I am, was glad to have more space
for his antique engines.
It turns out that I didn't "RC", and they're in the plastic package
instead of ceramic. Most of them are CDP-1802BCE, but some are
CDP-1802CE. I'm sure there's some joke in there about how old these
things are, but I'll leave the actual punch line as an exercise for the
reader. I rediscovered an RCA databook that I found some time after the
original haul, and have almost forgotten about already, that has info on
the whole CDP-18XX range, plus some development systems, including the
COSMAC Microboard Computer Systems. I haven't looked too closely, but
>from a cursory glance, it would appear that it has complete schematics
for all kinds of boards for this system, from the CPU board to RAM, ROM,
battery-backed RAM, UART, display, D/A, and so on. It truly inspires
awe.
Anyway, the CDP-1802CE is listed, but the BCE isn't. The 1802CE is
for temperatures ranging from -40 - +85 deg. C. The 'C' suffix (infix?)
has a "recommended voltage range" of 4-6.5 volts. The 1802 ranges from
4-10.5 volts. The 'E' suffix specifies the plastic case, while 'D'
would be ceramic. But I can't tell from the documentation I have what
the 'B' infix would do to it. Tonight I'll sort them into BCE and CE
and post exactly how many of each I have.
--
Joel Ewy
butcherspam_ewy(a)southwind.net
http://www2.southwind.net/~ewy
So you actually have a distribution of RT V02? I'd like to get a
copy from you for my archives.
Anyway, maybe what we need is a copy of the boot blocks for various
devices so that they can simply be layed down in the disk image
(using a very simple program) on block 0.
Actually, I think it might be a little difficult with a version
of RT that old, simply because the split between the monitor and
the device drivers had not yet been made, so you had to build a
monitor which included the devices you wanted it to have, and built
to boot using a specific handler. This was back in the days of
DXMNFB
and RKMNFB
which were the monitors for RT-11 FB on an RX01 and RT-11 FB on
an RK05, respectively.
Megan
ok, slightly OT. Transferring the os was a snap since the emulator
will read my 11/83's RX33s directly. But since RT11v02 does not
recognize the rx33 I could only transfer the files and have not
been able to bootstrap the emulated rk05.
putr.com's boot command seems to work only with post-version2 os's,
and the e11 docs don't seem to cover this. Perhaps e11 wont do ver 2?
I suppose I could try to locate a 8" drive to strap onto the pc (to
boot one of my rx01s)
This is my first try with e11 so don't know all the ins-outs yet.
Anyone tried rt-v02 on this emulator? Any hints would be appreciated
thanks..... nick
On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 07:55:00 -0700 Bruce Lane
<kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> writes:
> Joe, and other Teledisk group buy participants,
>
> I've got some bad news. It appears that, within the last
> year or two, Sydex has completely sold off the rights to Teledisk, and
the
> product itself, to a company called Forensics International. FI's web
page
> clearly states that they will sell only to law enforcement agencies and
> Fortune-1000 companies that can show a need for the software.
Nazi facist bastards! I'll bet there's a *conspiracy* at work here!
(Where's Fox Mulder when you need him?)
These assholes even claim that:
"TeleDisk was developed to assist the U. S. Treasury Department
in the processing of computer evidence tied to floppy diskettes."
Does anybody know if this is *true*?! I always thought it was
developed to distribute software via BBS's (and other electonic
means).
Rrrrrrrr. Now I'm pissed.
Jeff
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On Apr 4, 15:39, Will Jennings wrote:
> Errm, since I'm assuming you're talking guns here, I'd imagine the vacuum
> stands a good chance of not being operable afterwards, too!
Apparently it was OK. Actually, they were CCI small pistol primers which
are a little more sensitive than Winchester ones, but I used a little
poetic license because I thought more people would realise what I meant.
>From what my friend Mick tells me, some of them went off as they hit the
metal innards of the vacuum (rather than the brushes). I believe it was a
pretty noisy operation, though!
Richard mentioned that Winchester primers come in a flat plastic block; CCI
ones come in a small subdivided tray, about half the size of the Winchester
one. They're not individually compartmentalised like the Winchester ones
and tend to fall out rather easily. Mick had already dropped most of them
on the floor once, and picked them all up by hand. When he did it a second
time he just decided that the vacuum cleaner provided an easier solution.
For those who've not seen them, a tray of primers is about 2" square, and
holds 100 small round objects, 0.17" in diameter.
> Reminds me of my
> mom's friend's mother, who quit vacuuming forever after she mistakenly
> vacuumed up a bullet.. scratch one vacuum cleaner!
Ow! I'm surprised the round went off, though.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Reply to the orignal sender, not me.
That said, I could use a couple Mac monitor cables if anybody gets these.
Tom
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Subject: Old Apple CPU's
Date Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2001 10:01 AM
From: Christman, Karla <KChristman(a)Brazosport.isd.tenet.edu>
To: 'owad(a)applefritter.com' <owad(a)applefritter.com>
Do you know anyone in the Houston, Texas area that might be interested in
old Apple computers, monitors, parts and cables.
Karla Christman
Coordinator of Media Services
Brazosport Independent School District
Voice (979) 265-6181 x 232 and 266-2451
Pager (979) 235-4675
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Applefritter
www.applefritter.com
It is for a Gas or liquid Chromatrograph. It communicates to the GC via
HPIL. ( Serial 2 wire loop)
Most have been replaced with PC based data systems.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey S. Sharp <jss(a)ou.edu>
To: ClassicCmp Mailing List <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:19 PM
Subject: HP 3388 Integrator?
>Yesterday, while prowling through the University of Oklahoma surplus shop,
>I found a HP 3388 Integrator. It looked vaguely computerish, with ports
>for a terminal and tape, and a power switch with a label like "memory
>contents zeroed when set to off". The only relevant thing returned by a
>quick Google search for "hp 3388 integrator" is this page:
>
>http://www.alphaomegatech.com/datahint.htm
>
>Have I found anything interesting (for the $10 it costs)?
>
>--
>Jeffrey S. Sharp
>jss(a)ou.edu
Well, I'm not saying I'm looking for it for a reasearch project, but I'd
definetly love a scanmaster, also need a system/34... system/88 would be
nice, as would an 8130, 3790, or a 7171..
Will J
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Jeffrey l Kaneko <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com> wrote:
> "TeleDisk was developed to assist the U. S. Treasury Department
> in the processing of computer evidence tied to floppy diskettes."
>
> Does anybody know if this is *true*?! I always thought it was
> developed to distribute software via BBS's (and other electonic
> means).
ObAOL: Me Too. Seriously, I thought the idea was to be able to copy a
diskette to an image file that could be transferred via other means
and then copied back to a diskette for use at the receiving end. The
image file was mostly opaque to the user(s). I'm not sure how this
helps the Treasury Department, unless they're using it to ship
evidence-diskette images back to an FBI agent in the J. Edgar Hoover
building who knows how to work the FBI's one copy of XenoCopy to go
trawling through the reconstitued diskette for files.
I have dim memories from Lasnerian times of netnews articles posted by
and in response to people trying to exchange RX50 images via Teledisk;
the observation made was that doing this required certain versions of
Teledisk and/or certain types of floppy drives.
And I think that all this angst is amusing in light of today's
"Rhymes With Orange" comic strip.
If you want to see the strip in your gooey webulator, wait two weeks,
it'll be up at <http://www.rhymeswithorange.com/>. Those of us who
get it with our newspaper's comics page can have immediate
gratification.
Oh, all right, I'll spoil it. The punch line is "Except for
computers, which no longer read floppy disks." Perhaps the author is
one of those people who thinks "computer" means "Macintosh, late
model".
-Frank McConnell
I just ran across a reference to synchronized pendula in the latest "Wired"
magazine (March 2001, p. 58). I did a search for the work the article
mentions, which lead to the following site:
http://www.gtalumni.org/news/magazine/spr97/rhythms.html. The following is
>from this site:
"The phenomenon was described in 1665 by the Dutch physicist Christiaan
Huygens, who placed two pendulum clocks side by side on a wall. Within a
short time, the pendulums were swinging in perfect synchrony. He altered the
movement of one pendulum, but within a half hour the swinging weights had
regained synchrony. When one of the clocks was moved to another wall, they
gradually fell out of step."
Robert A. Feldman
Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com
Folks,
A recently acquired ASR33 came with an assorted sets of spares. Part of the
spares were some 196x vintage Control Data disks R/W heads which are of
limited interest to me..
They are available to whoever might need them for the cost of shipping
from Zurich, Europe )
Jos Dreesen
On Apr 5, 5:31, Jeff Hellige wrote:
> >I read "Hacker Crackdown"
> >years ago and can't remember if it describes those particular raids.
>
> I believe it does go into detail on Sundevil. The full book
> is available in AmigaGuide format, though I no longer recall where I
> saw it posted...it's been a couple of years since I saw that version.
It does go into some detail. I bought the book when it came out. The
electronic version can be found at
http://www.eff.org/pub/Misc/Publications/Bruce_Sterling/Hacker_Crackdown/
which also has the extra "Three Years Later" part .
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Hi. What is the binary format of the floppy disks that the
Xerox DayBreak workstation uses? And, by the way, how about the format
for the tapes (QIC?)?
Cheers,
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Robert,
Thanks for your comments but I don't think the problem is the disks.
I've also tried Tektronix 8160 disks, Osborne 1 and Osborne Executive
disks, Morrow disks and some others and I get the same results with all of
them. The only disks that I've ever been able to archive are MS-DOS disks!
Joe
At 09:54 AM 4/4/01 -0600, you wrote:
>I have a copy of Teledisk, but have not used it, so my comments might not be
>on the mark. But, I have used other disk format copy programs and know that
>they have trouble copying Kaypro disks unless the source disk was formated
>on the target (non-Kaypro) computer. Apparently the Kaypro (and also Zorba)
>format had some strange features. Might the unusual formatting be the source
>of Joe's problems?
>
>Robert Feldman
>Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bruce Lane [mailto:kyrrin@bluefeathertech.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:55 AM
>To: Joe
>Cc: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: Re: Teledisk not working
>
>
>At 10:10 04-04-2001 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>Bruce,
>>
>> I just tried Teledisk again with the SAME results. This time I used two
>>known good Kaypro 2 disks. Teledisk copied them to files with no
>>complaints. TDChck said that the files were OK. However each file was only
>>281 bytes in size. When I tried to make disks from the files it said that
>>the data had a CRC error.
>
><snip>
>
OK, here's the scoop on the original Scanmaster, not some lame-o PC-attached
crud...
8815 SCANMASTER I - WITHDRAWN
(NO LONGER AVAILABLE)
PURPOSE
o For capturing and transmitting noncoded documents to an 4300, S/370,
303X, or 308X system.
o For capturing and transmitting noncoded documents directly to another
Scanmaster I.
o For printing noncoded documents.
o For printing formatted text documents.
The Scanmaster I is an SNA/SDLC device designed for system-attached
operation and terminal-to-terminal operation. It attaches to 4300, S/370,
303X, and 308X processors over switched or nonswitched communication
facilities at speeds up to 9600 bps. It will communicate directly with
another remote Scanmaster I over a public switched telephone network or
private switched or non-switched voice facilities at speeds up to 9600 bps.
I got that from the IBM sales manual... I'd love to have one too..
Will J
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I am looking for some ideas for putting one of my DEC machines on the
net. I used to run a Unix bbs years ago on a 386 running Xenix and XBBS
and really enjoyed it a lot. I noticed that the source is still around
for that program on the net.
This is what I have:
11/23+ running RT-11. I have the TCP-IP package for it and I beleive I
have everything I need to make it work.
11/53 running RSX but I can probably coax BSD on it without a problem.
VAXstation II running VAX/VMS 4.4 but I also have netBSD for it. I know
nothing about VMS.
I want to make these machines available but at the same time I want to
batten down the hatches so they are not wide open for troublemakers. I
personally would like to put the 11/23+ on the net. If I could make that
work, then it would be easy to duplicate it on my 11/34 and put that on
the net.
These would be running behind my IP masq'ed Linux router. I could port
forward Telnet and FTP services. Maybe even HTTP if I could get that
working on the RT-11 box. Right now thats going to my current web
server.
Any ideas?
Brian.
At 10:10 04-04-2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Bruce,
>
> I just tried Teledisk again with the SAME results. This time I used two
>known good Kaypro 2 disks. Teledisk copied them to files with no
>complaints. TDChck said that the files were OK. However each file was only
<snip>
OK! Great news waiting in my inbox when I came home.
First: Joe, I've forwarded the description you E-mailed me to both Sydex
and Forensics Intl.
And that leads into the second part: F-I is perfectly willing to pick up
support for those involved in the group buy. The fact that we were legacy
customers of Sydex is what did it.
So, everyone who bought Teledisk can start breathing again. We're still
supported. Joe, I'll forward whatever answer I get back to you. It is also
possible that F-I support may open a dialogue directly with you. I did
offer them that option, and I gave them your E-address.
Thanks much.
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http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K)
"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be
superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).
On Apr 4, 13:22, Iggy Drougge wrote:
> Chuck McManis skrev:
>
> >At 06:36 PM 4/3/2001 -0500, The Chad wrote:
> >>Kidding.... Actually I just took the plastic case from my 3400 up the
> >>do-it-yourself car wash. I used the engine/tire cleaner on it, and
then
> >>Comet Cleanser. It turned out nicely..... it is drying now.
>
> >That's a great idea. I have done the boards in the dish washer trick
(they
> >come out nice and clean, but sometimes lose their labels)
> Wouldn't they melt or get disformed in the dishwasher?
Fibreglass doesn't melt easily :-)
I've put quite a few PCBs through our dishwasher (well it's "ours" when I
want to clean PCBs, and my wife's when it's dinner plates). It's amazing
how many useful pieces of equipment are disguised as domestic appliances:
the machine for cleaning keyboard keycaps and shell cases does an
excellent job of washing clothes, while the tumbling machine for drying
them off also works for socks and shirts. The device in the kitchen for
baking small spray-painted articles can be used for pizza and muffins. And
so on...
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Due to my computing interests becoming very much centered in the IBM
world, and also due to 2 tons of Big Blue stuff coming shortly, I have
decided to sell off a PDP-8/i. I promised the original seller that I
would not Ebay the thing, so I am keeping it to only a few lists.
The machine looks like an 8K PDP-8/i, with a highspeed paper tape
reader/puch (PCmumblefoo). It looks complete, although I have not checked
it 100 percent. Certainly the hard-to-find parts are there (namely the
panel and the two core stacks). The rack is not original, and frankly, is
ugly. The power supply seems very kludged in (although it looks DEC).
This ain't a plug and play 'puter, folks. It needs a cleanup and a tune
up. I have a doc set (not included, but I can copy (have to copy
one for Will, anyway).
Send me an offer if interested. I am located in New York, near
Connecticut. No shipping on this item - either you pick up, or I
deliver within a few hundred miles (Boston, Washington, maybe Cleveland
or even Chicago) for my expenses.
Some pictures:
http://www.bestweb.net/~toober/images/PDP8I.jpghttp://www.bestweb.net/~toober/images/PDP8I.upper.jpghttp://www.bestweb.net/~toober/images/PDP8I.inside.jpghttp://www.bestweb.net/~toober/images/PDP8I.fc.jpg
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
On Apr 4, 21:33, Tony Duell wrote:
> A word of warning. Do not use the water-boiling device often used to
> prepare water for tea/coffee for boiling belts
Similarly, the low-vacuum generator often found in the broom cupboard
should be used with care. Whilst it is useful for gathering up small
mechanical or electronic components dropped in awkward places, if it is of
the type that "beats as it sweeps etc", it must not be used be used to
recover the contents of a box of Winchester primers. The primers will not
be usable afterwards.
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Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Hello,
What kind carwash do you recommend.... the kind with brushes, or
no-touch? Will the brushes leave scratches in the finish? :-)
Kidding.... Actually I just took the plastic case from my 3400 up the
do-it-yourself car wash. I used the engine/tire cleaner on it, and then
Comet Cleanser. It turned out nicely..... it is drying now. Usually I
do this kind of thing in the bathtub, but since the Microvax case is
quite a bit larger than a PC, I decided to do it outside. Since I live
in an apartment..... that meant the carwash. The high pressure hose was
nice :-)
Once I get the case put back together, I'll set it up next to a PC, in a
more permanent location. Then I'll get the capture file of "show ***",
and post it to the list.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Heeeeellllou all!
So I'm going to be playing around with a 7933 disk drive during the
weekend and I'd really appreciate some help.
The 7933 is a big honkin' washing machine sized hard disk circa <1985
with a nice keypad and a nifty display (it's not seven segment, more
likely ten-segment or something like that).
The procedure for powering it up is something like this: connect power
(normal single-phase 230V), hit circuit breaker, wait, hit "load/unload"
button, wait 3 minutes for the disk to spin up, wait 4 minutes for
airpurge (I gather this was simply "purge" in previous models, much
to the delight of MPE users) and if you're lucky you'll get "drive #"
on the display.
So this much I know, but I was wondering if anyone has even a short list
of the keypad commands (test numbers etc.) I think it has bad blocks
and before I try mediainit I might as well run the built-in diags.
TIA,
--
jht
Errm, since I'm assuming you're talking guns here, I'd imagine the vacuum
stands a good chance of not being operable afterwards, too! Reminds me of my
mom's friend's mother, who quit vacuuming forever after she mistakenly
vacuumed up a bullet.. scratch one vacuum cleaner!
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could everyone who sent me an email about that cdp1802 chip resend please....
my little sister deleted them all before i had a chance to read them....thanks
I have a copy of Teledisk, but have not used it, so my comments might not be
on the mark. But, I have used other disk format copy programs and know that
they have trouble copying Kaypro disks unless the source disk was formated
on the target (non-Kaypro) computer. Apparently the Kaypro (and also Zorba)
format had some strange features. Might the unusual formatting be the source
of Joe's problems?
Robert Feldman
Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Lane [mailto:kyrrin@bluefeathertech.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:55 AM
To: Joe
Cc: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Teledisk not working
At 10:10 04-04-2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Bruce,
>
> I just tried Teledisk again with the SAME results. This time I used two
>known good Kaypro 2 disks. Teledisk copied them to files with no
>complaints. TDChck said that the files were OK. However each file was only
>281 bytes in size. When I tried to make disks from the files it said that
>the data had a CRC error.
<snip>
I went scrounging last week with one of my buddies and we found some
new toys. A Kaypro 2 and a Kaypro II along with a good size pile of Kaypro
software. Both of the Kaypros are in mint condition. I kept the 2 and Bob
kept the II. Upon checking the 2, I found that it has the Micro Cornicopia
Pro-8 ROM. I'm not sure what all it does but it will support up to four 80
track drives in the Kaypro. Now if I can just find that stash of HH 80
track floppy drives!
More checking revealed that it also has the 5 MHz Z-80B speedup from
Micro C and the Micro C enhanced version of CPM 2.2 (CPM 2.2E). It also has
the 88-CoPower card with the 128k daughter board that lets you run MS_DOS
on the Kaypro. All in all, a very nice find!
Does anyone have the docs on these upgrades? Does anyone have the MS-DOS
that runs on the 88-CoPower card?
Joe
does anyone know where i could purchase an RCA Cosmac CDP1802 microprocessor?
i've looked for one on ebay and at random antique places....
if anyone could help i would appreciate it
At 10:10 04-04-2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Bruce,
>
> I just tried Teledisk again with the SAME results. This time I used two
>known good Kaypro 2 disks. Teledisk copied them to files with no
>complaints. TDChck said that the files were OK. However each file was only
>281 bytes in size. When I tried to make disks from the files it said that
>the data had a CRC error. Since they're so small I'm attaching the files to
>this message. You can look at them and see what you think.
<snip>
Joe, and other Teledisk group buy participants,
I've got some bad news. It appears that, within the last year or two,
Sydex has completely sold off the rights to Teledisk, and the product
itself, to a company called Forensics International. FI's web page clearly
states that they will sell only to law enforcement agencies and
Fortune-1000 companies that can show a need for the software.
I've written FI a note giving our group license info, and asking if they
picked up tech support responsibility for existing customers when they
bought TD. I would certainly think they would have! However, I think we
also need to be prepared for the worst (read: no more support.)
I will also drop a note to Sydex, but I don't hold out much hope at this
point.
Joe, I'll see if I can do anything with the files you sent.
Stay tuned...
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Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K)
"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be
superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).
Yesterday, while prowling through the University of Oklahoma surplus shop,
I found a HP 3388 Integrator. It looked vaguely computerish, with ports
for a terminal and tape, and a power switch with a label like "memory
contents zeroed when set to off". The only relevant thing returned by a
quick Google search for "hp 3388 integrator" is this page:
http://www.alphaomegatech.com/datahint.htm
Have I found anything interesting (for the $10 it costs)?
--
Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)ou.edu
Argh,
Ok, this is perhaps a dumb question, and I need to go find my VMS system
managers manual, (no doubt it will be at the _bottom_ of my pile of VMS
docs). When I have a tape that I created with SYS$UPDATE:STABACKIT.COM and
I want to restore that tape on to a disk, what do I type to it? I tried this:
BACKUP/IMAGE/VERIFY MIA2: DIA0:
but it complained that it couldn't open [SYSEXE]. on DIA0 (which makes
sense since DIA0 doesn't have anything on it yet!)
--Chuck
I have a few 386sx boxes configured in various ways:
- DOS/linux based test environment for developmental ISA cards
- windows - print server for two printers serving around 10 computers of various kinds (win nt, 98, linux)
- linux - data concentrator for a network of controllers (provides ethernet gateway for a large number of C64s used for controlling
greenhouses)
A large number of others perform other tasks, often in 1MB RAM with no real video or keyboard. most of them talk via ethernet or serial to
ethernet (PPP). some are windows based, others DOS, others linux.
As for booting win95 on 386sx it takes awhile, but 10mins is exaggerating. oddly, some tasks are the same speed as on pentium, but you can
almost see it drawing the graphics. given I have crippled it with not even a 1MB card I'm not surprised. (256K I think).
After patching the windows box it has now stayed online for approximately four years, with downtime for maintenance, upgrade of memory,
and installation of printer drivers/redirectors. The patch is needed since the old version of 9x has a timer overflow which crashes it after a
certain number of days of uptime. go figure.
.....
Anyone have information on the NBI OASYS 8 system?
It was a wordprocessing system made in the 80s (late 70s?).
It all works fine, and has a 10MB harddisk (SCSI I think), system unit, and two terminals.
My basic question is: how do I talk to the terminals?
when they boot up they instantly contact the system unit. this is fine, except I want to use the terminals for something else... they are mostly
motorola gear: 6809 cpu, sram, io, video etc.
I think the networking used is ethernet... the terminals connect via a coax at least (but this is only a guess)
I also have two daisy wheel printers. These have print server boxes on the back which put them on the network. the system uses basically
6809 CPUs in various flavours, although the harddisk has a relative of the 8086 onboard.
any thoughts? Unlike the rest of my old computers this one is staying in the original number of pieces from the factory!
Darrell
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Hello: I am looking for the following items as well as their manuals
dating back to the mid 1980's. I am willing to pay fair market value as
well as all shipping charges. Please email me if you have any of these
items or any leads as to where I may obtain them. Thanks.
1. GammaFax Board
2. IBM Scanmaster
3. TITN, Inc. "TWICE X.25" software
4. Xerox "Netmaster" software
5. Wang PIC
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Jortberg Associates
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gunther Schadow" <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org>
To: <port-vax(a)netbsd.org>
Cc: "Lord Isildur" <mrfusion(a)umbar.vaxpower.org>; "Brian Chase"
<bdc(a)world.std.com>; "J. Buck Caldwell" <buckaroo(a)igps.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:19 AM
Subject: UPDATE (was: Re: VAX 6000-400 series and NetBSD, I have
machines)
> O.K. I now have the inventory of the VAXen. You can see the listing at
>
> http://aurora.regenstrief.org/VAX.html
>
> It's quite extensive. These are indeed four 6420 cabinets, though
> basically 4 times an identical parts list, and no disk support at all.
Typical Cluster setup. Pity you didn't get the HSC and other bits too.
I'd give you one, but it's a little far to ship it.
> One has a bad power unit. I will use that one as a resource for spare
> parts. Unless anyone wants to repair the power unit, that will go to
the
> junk yard.
Which PSU is crook? The mains input box, the 300V supply or one of the
LV supplies?
> One of the other machine's cabinets lacks a back door, so
> I will even use the door from the machine with the broken power unit.
> I'll save all boards, cables, and screws that I can get off easily.
These are like a meccano set, everything unbolts pretty well, but you
will wind up with a mountain of screws and washers.
They suffer from what we used to call in the domestic electronics
servicing industry 'cousin effect' - the designer had a cousin who owned
a screw factory. :^)
Someone once mentioned that a friend was attempting to build up one of
these minus the cabinet, ie just the cages and psu's, it would be a
little tricky, but probably possible, and it would make it a lot more
compact.
LV and HV PSU's may fail occasionally, and the TK70's are painful at
times, everything else in there
is ultra reliable.
> The two machines I will give away will have 2 CPUs each and 256 MB
RAM.
Nice.
> I will hold on to the spare parts in order to trade them for other
> interfaces if necessary. We should get one SDI and one DSSI interface
> at least, if not an SCSI interface.
That would be good, the SDI would probably be the easiest to find,
though not necessarily the easiest to support, with the
XMI-BI stuff in the middle.
<SNIP>
> Matthew Hudson offered to donate SDI disk drives and perhaps a DSSI
> interface card. The SDI drives are heavy (64 kg, according to Geoff.)
If they are RA8x's, yes, big, awkward, heavy suckers, I can barely carry
one on my own. RA9x's are around 30kg, weighty but tolerable, quite
reliable and 1/3 the power/noise of the RA8x's. The RA8x's are power
hungry and unreliable (the spindle bearings tend to pack up - the
platters are 1/2 metre across and are belt driven!) not to mention very
noisy. I have several, but do not use them anymore.
RA7x's are house brick size/weight, with usual 5v/12v power, but you
need at least the SA70 and the right SDI cabling (The cabling is the
same for any SDI drive.)
Trickier than it sounds, since you can't connect the black SDI's leads
directly to the SA70 RA9x, RA8x, you need the cable and socket affair
that is on the rack cabinet. You should be able to find some without
too much trouble, if the RA8x's are in cabinets, the same cable loom
will work with the SA70 enclosures or RA9x drives.
81's are 480mb, 82's are 620mb. 90's are 1Gb 91's 1.2Gb. 70's are
250mb, 71's 750mb, 72's 1Gb, 73's 1.2Gb (I think).
You would just about fit one Ra8x in the bottom of a 6k, maybe, 2 RA9x's
fit comfortably, and an SA70 is virtually the same dimensions as a
single RA9x drive, so in theory you could fit 8 x RA7x's in their SA70s'
in the bottom of a 6K, but you would need 2 KDB50s to support them.
> Brian, you're organizing the truck for shipment to Bloomington? I'd
> be most grateful if that truck would also bring my machine home in
> Indy. We may need about 3 to 4 more hands.
Ideal number for manual handling of 6k's is about six, and if the truck
bed isn't too high, you can stick a thin mattress under them, lay them
on their side on it, and slide them off onto a hard surface, then wheel
>from there, if the floor is smooth enough. A forklift is much easier
though. ;^) Done it both ways.
> If need be I'm willing to
> accompany you to Bloomington to help with carrying the stuff you take.
> Make sure you get a heavy cart and lots of strong and long straps.
There
> are carts that have a strap so you can get a tight hold of a
> refrigerator or laundromat.
> This works fairly well, but ask them what
> the maximum load is, these boxes are about 300 kg (according to Geoff)
> though mine may be lighter 'cause there are no disks or power backup
> unit inside.
The 318kg is bare machine weight, and does not include disks (which are
not mounted internally in 6ks - my setup is nonstandard) or optional
extras like the Battery backup pack, (do any of these have one??) which
weighs about 40kg or so, (mostly the SLAC batteries).
If you intend to do the 3phase-single phase conversion, you can save
around 30kg by removing that bloody great autotransformer between the
mains input box and the 300V supply. It's surplus to the conversion.
Every little bit helps when you are moving something this heavy.
Anything I should know about my new vaxstation 4000/vlb that I picked up on
ebay for 47 bucks plus shipping? My intent is to replace my somewhat dead
3100 with it. (I sort of got the replacement memory board installed *backwards
* and things went downhill from there. It's probably not really dead, but
8 megs of RAM just isn't enough.)
I intend to run the thing headless, btw.
--
Jim Strickland
jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
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On Apr 3, 12:29, Dan Veeneman wrote:
> At the bottom of the
> box was a Hewlett-Packard IC labeled 1820-0076. It's a
> 16-pin DIP plastic package with the following stamps:
>
> 7476N 7751
> SA 1820-0076
> Any ideas what device and purpose this IC might be for?
Just a dual J-K flip-flop made around Christmas 1977 (a 7476 is a standard
16-pin DIP TTL JK F/F, and date code 7751 would be week 51, 1977).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Board has 3 notches. on back it says "DEC DMV11 Microprogram Control". It
also has the following numbers: M8053 on one of the top fingers. Also
CS*ABCDEFHJKLMNPRS also DDCMP ADDR BOOT enable. Can anyone tell me what this
is and what it does?
Headley
Hmm, maybe I should take pix of the assembled drive unit? They are no
smaller than 1.26GB each, since the smallest 3380 model was a 2.52GB total
unit.. I have no difficulty believing the age of the drives, they're fast as
hell and store a huge amount of data, my 3380 is an AE4, which makes it a
5.04GB unit. Average seek time of 17ms or less, depending on the model, and
data rate of at least 3MB/sec. Average latency of 8.3ms
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Hello,
At the Baltimore hamfest last weekend I picked up several
9825 HP-IB interface cables in a box. At the bottom of the
box was a Hewlett-Packard IC labeled 1820-0076. It's a
16-pin DIP plastic package with the following stamps:
7476N 7751
SA 1820-0076
The chip looks to be in good shape and is in anti-static
foam inside a plastic box.
Any ideas what device and purpose this IC might be for?
Another mystery device in the box was a 98028A "Resource
Management Multiplexer" that has four DB-15 female
connectors and what looks to be a 50-pin harmonica-style
connector at the end of a short cable.
Cheers,
Dan
PS At the 'fest I also picked up an HP 9915B (with option 002) along
with a 98155A keyboard and three interface cables (two serial and
one HP-IB) as well as an HP 82905B printer. I also bought three
TI-99/4As and two expansion chassis for them (one new in box
and the other populated with floppy disk drives and additional
memory).
>>Question: I thought that the hobbyist program had been
>>slowed to a ... standstill
>> John A.
>
>...I'm thinking the problem people are having is getting their Encompass
>(DECUS) memberships....
> Zane
More or less true for me. I have hit the "Register" website twice, first
time in February. I must exist there, I got the March "Quadwords"
(hardcopy) newsletter, but no response email and no membership number so
far. No real problem, since no time to fool with the Hobbyist VAX at the
moment, but if I were in a hurry I'd be a little frustrated. But if I were
in a hurry I'd probably have called or emailed someone about it, which may
work better.
- Mark
Hi,
cafe.ambrosiasw.com used to have Mac network games. It is no longer
available. The link suggests
http://www.macledge.com/netgames/netgames/ but that site says
"opening again shortly." Hmmm.
Is that a long shortly or a short shortly?
Yuh can't lurk forever...
Greetings to Paul Braun!
Steve C.
Williston, ND
In case anyone wants to take a look ... I shot a couple of quick
pictures of these huge IBM disk drives and stuck them:
http://members.home.net/ip500/ibmdiscfront.JPGhttp://members.home.net/ip500/ibmdisccu.JPGhttp://members.home.net/ip500/ibmdiscback.JPG
No good reference for scale, but they are about 4' long X 2' dia
and weigh approx 140 pounds [that's not including the motor & belt drive
visable in picture 1]. These were mounted as pictured [upright], 2 to a
cabinet, the motors were mounted above the drives and ran a 1.5" width
belt down to the drive pulley. I can hardly beliefe these are circa
1985!
Cheers, Craig
Charlie,
I have the small tape reader that attaches to the side of the Model 33.
Unused, in the box, yours for the asking (although a swap for something
useful is always nice). Contact me off-list.
Arlen Michaels
amichael(a)nortelnetworks.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles E. Fox [SMTP:foxvideo@wincom.net]
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 11:53 AM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: NEC APC TU001 Memory boards
>
>
>
> We are trying to get an APC operational, and would like to ask if
>
> anyone has a couple of the optional memory expansion boards that they
> would
> part with for a reasonable price?
> Also, does anyone know where I could track down a tape punch and
> reader for a Model 33 Teletype?
> Thanks
> Charlie Fox
> Chas E. Fox Video Productions
> 793 Argyle Rd. Windsor ON N8Y 3J8
> foxvideo(a)wincom.net
> Check out:
> Camcorder Kindergarten at http://chasfoxvideo.com
>
> How did you come to write games for the 9845 anyway? Did you sell them?
> It's not exactly the most popular game platform.
Well, this friend and I worked at NASA JSC. We were shuttle flight
controllers in the early STS days, including STS-1. (You should see
my collection of stuff from the first shuttle flight!) In our off hours, we
played with the 9845, writing games: lunar landing simulator (which I
did rewrite into C++ and still play), submarine search and destroy
(which I rewrote and was published by Broderbund Software as
"Search and Destroy", car race, solitaire, blackjack, Star Trek, GREAT
baseball and 1-on-1 basketball games, and several others. FAR better
than anything on the market in the early 80s. (Of course, that's the
advantage of having a $70,000 machine at your disposal!)
Never sold them. I left NASA in '82 (to come to Boeing) and
interviewed an HP rep from Corvallis, showed her all the great stuff.
Her response: "Outstanding! How about coming to work for us and
writing aero engineer software for wind tunnel testing and such?"
No thanks.
> And do you have any other fun toys in your collection? I'm being nosy since
> we're both in Seattle.
Actually, I do have an *original* IBM PC. March 82, 48k motherboard
(not the later 64k), SINGLE side 160K floppy, Amdek color monitor.
And some games I wrote for that. I'm heartbroken that I threw out my
original DOS 1.0 disks/book back in about '84, when DOS 2.1 came
out. (I do still have all the 2.1 disks & books.)
So, if anyone knows where I could beg, borrow, or steal a DOS 1.0...
;-}
BTW, my wife's uncle still has his original IBM PC Jr, complete with
chicklet keyboard. Gonna half to try to scam him out of that.
> BtW, whenever I try to mail to RebelTerry(a)home.net, I get a message saying
> "Relaying denied". I have to use tlb55(a)home.net instead.
No idea what's going on there. Relaying bumps usually happen when
the sender tries going through the wrong SMTP server. Don't know
why the other would work.
> P.S. If the BASIC listing uses keywords in optional ROMs, and the working
> machine doesn't have those ROMs, what happens when you try to print out the
> listing?
Good question....
Thanks.
RT
Fixing my domain name again back to ptloma.edu -- hope this works.
Sorry for the inconvenience!
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-- TODAY'S DUMB TRUE HEADLINE: Plane Too Close to Ground, Crash Probe Told ----
Just making sure this is getting through -- my domain name has changed
to floodgap.com (though stockholm.ptloma.edu will still work for some
time).
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-- The best things in life are sold out. --------------------------------------
From: M.Buckett <M.Buckett(a)dcs.hull.ac.uk>
>> >>For a while I had a parallel port webcam running of a 386sx20 with
4MB> >>of RAM and it ran Windows 95. While it was slow it did get the
job
>> >
>> >The catch with using w95 regardless of speed, it that for many cases
its
>> >the only game in town if you want network services, ie winsocket etc.
>>
>>
>> Huh? What about linux, freebsd, and friends.?
>
>Drivers for the webcam (Creative Webcam 1) only really existed for
Windows 95.
>A linux driver is about on the net but it looks pretty beta.
Understood. Though the W95 version sounds beta too. That the biggest
problem with W9x systems, apps and drivers (other than the base ones
supplied) are often pretty poor. Under Win/NT4 I've had my pain with
tape and video drivers plus the usual apps that leak memory.
Allison
Another one I remember is Spectre VR, a now-defunct 3-d tank game that's been around for awhile...I remember that there was a shareware or freeware version that was single-player only, but the commercial version supported many networked players as long as each had a unique serial number registered. Should run fine on just about any color Mac -- it fits on a floppy and is pretty streamlined as 3d games go. Any Hacks N' Cracks database or other decent serial number compilation will have plenty of serial numbers for you to use.
Another good one, but probably too processor-intensive for the really old Macs, is Terminal Velocity. Also defunct. This was an easy-to-play flight simulator type game with nice graphics and sound.
There's also Marathon, which has been around awhile, but may be again too new for the older machines. It's also a good bit more involved -- probably too hard for very young kids to get into.
Good luck, HTH...
-- MB
I just tried to look up a Quantum drive on their site and could not find the
archives any more. Certainly the links produced by a Google search for mthe
drive are either dead or redirected to their index page.
Is this another company which has just decided to remove all of their
historic documents or am I looking in the wrong place?
--
Regards
Pete
On April 2, ip500 wrote:
> In case anyone wants to take a look ... I shot a couple of quick
> pictures of these huge IBM disk drives and stuck them:
> http://members.home.net/ip500/ibmdiscfront.JPG
> http://members.home.net/ip500/ibmdisccu.JPG
> http://members.home.net/ip500/ibmdiscback.JPG
> No good reference for scale, but they are about 4' long X 2' dia
> and weigh approx 140 pounds [that's not including the motor & belt drive
> visable in picture 1]. These were mounted as pictured [upright], 2 to a
> cabinet, the motors were mounted above the drives and ran a 1.5" width
> belt down to the drive pulley. I can hardly beliefe these are circa
> 1985!
Wow...that disk is BEEFY. What's the capacity on that beastie
again?
-Dave McGuire
Over the last few weeks I have come up with the following finds:
1-Osborn (gray unit) with all the manuals and software that came with it
new. I got the original papers it was purchased on 12/24/1982.
2-Apple QuickTake 100 digital camera in the box
3-Dr. DOS 6.0 complete.
4-Four reels of BASF tape - New
5-PB DUO 230 with dock
6-Motorola AlphaMate model N1383A
7-Penware 100
8-PB165 working unit no adapter
9-Multitech Micro-Professor MPF-I brand new unopened box
10-Mac Plus complete working unit donated to me.
11-HP 200LX palmtop PC working unit with lots extra's
12-Two early Mac promotional tapes used by dealers
13-HP 9100-5124 adapter
14-Core memory card, a really great find
The other is not close to 10 years old yet so I will list it another
time. Keep on computing
John Keys
From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
>I have a Packard Bell setup and an HP, both of which use an EISA bridge
>(according to the signon) and EISA-looking riser card, at right angles
in the
>case of the PB and parallel to the really small lower card in the HP.
Both have
>ISA expansion and PCI as well, and both have video, etc. (all the usual
mobo
>stuff) on the lower board.
Could be but since its a slim lince case even if it were EISA it would
have to
be shorter in height. Most of the boxen that require the 120 or so pin
card
do it for mechancical reasons and the busses can be ISA, EISA, and the
AT&T
I have has ISA, EISA and even PCI on the right angle card!
Allison
>
>Dick
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net>
>To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:22 PM
>Subject: Re: Mobo Question
>
>
>> From: Lanny Cox <chronic(a)nf.sympatico.ca>
>>
>>
>> >It's about 2 1/2 times bigger than a PCI slot, as i originally
>> mentioned. It
>> >looks a lot like an ISA port (ISA style connectors and black casing),
>> but is
>> >a lot bigger. There's only one connector on the mobo, which does
support
>> the
>> >riser card theory. Luckily, the system has onboard video, serial and
>> >parallel ports, etc. so it won't be so bad.
>>
>>
>> Thats the case. Most pizza boxen that are under 5" high have to mount
the
>> card
>> horizontally so the do the 120 pin connector and riser with the cards
>> plugging into
>> the riser sideways.
>>
>> I have a AT&T P100, Dell 486DX and Dell 386sx/16 all using risers
like
>> that.
>>
>> Allison
>>
>>
>
On Mar 28, 2:47, Iggy Drougge wrote:
> This weekend, along with a batch of PS/2s, I received a 3Com 3c588 1988
> vintage MultiConnect Repeater. It's a 19" case with space for sixteen
cards.
> Mine features one card indicating power with a green LED as well as a
DB-9
> female connector, then fourteen cards equipped with a BNC connector, an
> activity led, one partition LED and a partition/reset switch each.
> Whenever a card is connected to a 10b2 network, the partition light
(which
> otherwise emits a steady red light) begins to flicker. Upon flicking the
> switch into reset mode, the partition light goes out. The network works
fine
> as long as there is no partitioning. I suppose its purpose is to not leak
> traffic between several networks.
Not quite. "Partitioning" is network jargon for disconnecting a port or
segment. If there's no terminator, the transceiver will behave as though
continually detecting collisions, and the repeater will automatically
disconnect ("partition") that transceiver from the rest. The red LED
lights up to tell you it has done so. It won't self-reset because if it
really were connected to a faulty network segment, it might end up going in
and out of operation.
> What is the purpose of the DB-9 connector?
I'm not familiar with this particular repeater, but I imagine it's a serial
port for management and setup. Modern 3Com equipment has a serial port
wired to the same (non)standard as PC 9-pin ports, but that one may not be
wired in the normal way. It may also do auto-baud-rate detection, and it
probably won't emit anything until it receives a couple of carriage
returns. My old SynOptics 2813 hubs have a DA9 as well, and it's some odd
connection for a modem (they also have a DB25 whichj is a normal serial
port).
I'd pull the card and see if anything on it gives you any clues.
> Could this repeater slow a network down?
Unlikely. You can get different cards for those repeaters -- 10baseT,
10base2, 10base5/AUI, and the 10baseT cards have 3 ports each. 3Com
wouldn't have done that if it were going to significantly impact bandwidth.
It's basically just a buffer; it doesn't process the data passing through
like a switch does. Any intelligence in it is just for monitoring and
setup (partitioning, etc).
Another thing you could try is snooping on the network packets (if you have
snoop, tcpdump, or similar) to see if the repeater emits any packets when
it first powers up. It might be trying to BOOTP to get an IP address, and
if you give it one, you can probably telnet to it and look at the setup.
It probably needs a password, though.
> What does partitioning actually entail?
See above. Some more modern 3Com hubs also have the capability to split
the unit into segments (eg, the SuperStack II PS 40 hubs and others can
have 4 segments) but assigning ports to different segments isn't usually
called partitioning.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
hi,
>>It's true. In general, IDE tends to be a fairly raw interface,
although as
>>machines have evolved, it's not as raw as back in the 386 days.
>
>It's worth pointing out that the A4000 was buffered, though. There
are
>buffered IDE multiplexers abvailable so that one might add four
ATAPI devices
>at once. I've got an unbuffered one on the 4000, though I've since
removed the
>three sub-gigabyte drives with a single bigger one.
Someone said that some people have fried unbuffered amigas by trying to fit
CDROM drives to them - the current draw is bigger and cooks the CPU. That
may well be myth though - surely the IDE spec says things about current
limitations as well as protocol? (although I don't doubt that there are one
or two bad drives out there)
Oh, I fell foul to ebay - that A3000's almost tripled in value over the
weekend. Think I'll give it a miss in future (first time I've tried ebay)...
rather wait for something to turn up where I know what the asking price is!
(fair dues on the A3000 though, it did seem like a bargain at the original
price given how loaded up it seemed to be - I got fed up dealing with
inherent web time delays though and got bored bidding on Friday)
I think I'll keep scouring local ads and loot for a 1200 or something...
> There is a free NFS server port on Aminet,
> http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/aminet/comm/tcp/nfsd_bin991130.lha
> I'd probably go with that in a UNIX environment, though it seems
to have a
> tendency to fluctuate in speed a lot. I suspect this has got
something to do
> with the virtual inode which it goes about creating, but suddenly
performance
> drops a whole lot and drive activity gets quite intense.
well as long as something works :-)
Back when I used to use the A500 a lot I used to have to boot a PC XT
emulator and copy files via floppy that way - it was really quite painful!
(Can't remember the name of the emulator now)
> BTW, I got my first Speccy today! Can't wait to see if it's a 48K
or 16K
> version. Now I only have to get one of those cassette recorders.
=)
now you're talking! The best computer ever... :-) Hopefully it's a 48K, I
don't think much will run on the 16K version, they never were that popular.
Ahh, the days of interfaces falling out of the back of the machine,
constantly tweaking tape head alignment to get anything to load, broken
keyboard membranes etc. etc. ;)
cheers for the help,
Jules
Re: Spaceward Ho, Friends and I have been playing that in a big group
annually for > 10 years. My Mac Plus has participated in *every* annual
Ho-a-thon, and is still my preferred Ho machine (though I switch to the
PB3400 when we switch to Marathon!). Info and order at
http://www.delatao.com/ho/index.html
I'll be happy to answer more questions about it off-list. Strongly
recommended. There's a demo at that website.
Also: Armor Alley. I think this is not sold, not available
freeware/shareware, just deceased. That is a *real* shame, it was a *good*
game. Only up to 4 players though.
- Mark
A quick follow-up:
It also appears that GMT Microelectronics, the group of CSG people
that in 1994 purchased the CSG operation from the failed Commodore have
themselves failed or were purchased. Their Web site is dormant and in
February someone purchased the domain name. Their phone numbers are "busy."
Any info on this?
Rich
--- Mike Ford wrote:
I also strongly recommend doing what I do, BUY old software and use legal
copies. What you "do" teaches kids more than what you" say", and running a
lot of bootleg software (except for MS products) gives the wrong message.
Showing that a bunch of old computers can still be a LOT of fun is the
RIGHT message.
--- end of quote ---
Thank you for the morality lesson. However, when games are defunct and the software companies no longer exist, I don't see a piracy issue with using those programs freely. Or perhaps I should tear down my Lisa software FTP server? I was not advocating ripping off commercial software, and I rather resent that implication.
If the makers of Spectre VR are still around and still selling/supporting their older stuff, I'll happily send in my payment. I doubt that they are, but it would be easy to find out and act accordingly. If they're NOT around or are no longer supporting their program, then they have nothing to lose by your using it freely. They've already made their money and moved on.
As a semi-parallel, Penguin Classics are re-releases of classic literature sold for about $2 each because the copyrights and/or royalty requirements have expired over time. I view ancient software similarly (and yes, I would pay a token fee like $2 for an old game, if there were anyone left to take the money). Your classic Mac might as well be a boat anchor if you can't run something on it.
-- MB
Owen Robertson wrote (in private e-mail to me):
> Well, I was hoping to find diagrams of a simple system someone else had
> created, so that I could study it and get ideas. I was also looking for
> information on address decoding circuitry.
The information I have is likely to be at the chip level rather than the
board level. But I'll see what I can do.
I'm replying to the list because private mail to your From: address (univac
at earthlink dot net) keeps bouncing.
-- Derek
On Apr 2, 7:36, Bryan Pope wrote:
> >
> > The thing is, Microsoft's memory recommendations tend to be the minimum
the
> > OS will function correctly. Remember the minimum requirements for
win95 were
> > a 386sx16 and 4 megs of ram. I'm told it will *boot* in that, if
you're
> > patient. But do useful work? Ha.
> >
> I can confirm that it will boot... I did tech support for this person
> who had just such a beast. It took about 10 minutes to boot. The poor
hard
> drive just kept grinding away the whole time. And this machine was used
to
> take care of their accounting.
I can second that -- I recently gave a friend a little compaq portable (I'd
hestitate to call it a laptop!) which is a 386sx16. i tohught it had 2MB
of RAM, but maybe it was 4MB -- anyway, it does boot, but it takes longer
than 10 minutes. It takes even longer than that to boot linux!
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Can RA81/82 disks be reformatted in the field? If so, is this
done through XXDP or is there a way to do it from the disk's
serial port?
My RA82 occasionally lights its FAULT light and extinguishes its
ready light during write operations. The likelyhood of it
faulting appears (but I am not certain) to be correlated with a specific
region of the disk.
About five-ten seconds after the fault, the FAULT indicator turns
off and ready comes back on. At no time is an I/O error generated
that the application or the operating system (2.11BSD) see
so this fault appears to be transient and is resolved by either
the drive or the drive/controller together.
It "smells" like a data write error that's resolved after a few
automatic retries. I'm hoping a low-level reformat could clear it
up. Am I wacked out?
If there's an XXDP exerciser/formatter available I'd appreciate it
if someone could point me there. It's been nearly twenty years since
the last time I even tried running XXDP
Thanks as always,
greg
p.s. The RA81 drive on the same controller never gives any
trouble (yet). I've tried some more basic things like
swapping SDI cables and drive ports but it doesn't make
a difference.
Gregory Travis
Cornerstone Information Systems ATS
greg(a)ciswired.com
812 330 4361 ext. 18
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:09:49 -0800
> From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
>
> Got any FastPath docs?
I do, plus, I was software lead on the FastPath at Shiva in the early
90s. I did the FastPath 4+ and FastPath 5.
-phil
Hi;
I have run across a lot of DEC that is available at a Government agency that
is available for negotiated sale. Unfortunately, there are some units I know
little about. Since it is the government there are complications with the
hard drives that I will mention after the list.
The lot is;
one Microvax II in a BA123 cabinet
two VAX 4000/200s small square floor towers
one VAX 4000/100 Desktop
two DEC 2000 AXP
one DEC PC AXP 150
one DEC 486 PC
one DEC Storage works small drive tower w/o drives
one CD tower with 3 or 4 CD drives in it, I think DEC mfg. but not sure.
The limitations are no keyboards, mice or monitors. Otherwise the equipment
seems complete. I will not have the opportunity to list boards, drives, etc.
It is supposed to be working equipment.
I was told by the property manager that the drives will have to be removed,
or if I wanted the drives they would have to be erased to his satisfaction.
No Government software can get out of the agency.
Does anyone know how to clean the drives in situ given the limitations. I
could probably scrounge up a terminal but I don't have one easily accessible.
Not to mention I have no experience in reformatting vaxes. Would a honking
big magnet trash the drives? If I can't clean the drives they will keep them.
What I really need is an idea of the value of the units. It has to be more
than scrap otherwise they will go for recycling.
They have a contract with a scrap recycler that lets them deduct the value of
the machines from their budget if they go to this recycler so it is too their
advantage to recycle them. However the Property manager likes me and is
willing to help if I can satisfy his requirements.
I have little interest in keeping them so they would be offered to the list
first. If you want to make an offer on any please contact me off list at
whoagiii(a)aol.com.
Speculation of their value on list is OK by me if it is OK with the
listmembers.
What are the AXP units? I have no idea what AXP means or what processors are
in them?
Thanks for the help.
Paxton
Portland, Oregon
For some reason, I've been encountering a lot of EISA systems recently. It
doesn't seem like such a nice bus, much like MCA, but at least in theory, it
beats ISA. What bothers me, though, is the fact that there doesn't seem to be
any central repository for the configuration files needed, unlike MCA adaptor
description files, which have been neatly collected by Peter Wendt et al.
Despite much googling, I've been unable to find drivers for my Netflex-2
ethernet card, and finding one for my NE3200 proved to be a real struggle as
well. What a bother.
Does anyone have any EISA links to recommend, or the configuration file for
the Netflex-2?
--
En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.
A Spanish MSX Group "Matra" visited to this Fair. I lent Spanish stand to
them. They showed and did Promotion play of SEX BOMB BUNNY. And this Game has
tema song of Majingar-Z! Why they know Japanese TV animation?
K. Ikeda, MSX-Print
I am sending off a bunch of compact MACs to the "familly compound" where we
have our many familly holiday gatherings. I had accumulated over 30 of
these, mostly Classics and Classic IIs.
We end up with a bunch of kids there (ages 4 to14) and I would like to hook
up some MACs together and get them running some sort of head to head
games...Since these are small and compact they will be fine for the kids and
4 or 6 of these will not take up more than a large table...I am doing some
spring cleaning in the collection so...
I was not into games when these were popular so...anybody remember any good
titles that could be played head-to-head on these?
Thanks
Claude
From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
>>For a while I had a parallel port webcam running of a 386sx20 with 4MB
>>of RAM and it ran Windows 95. While it was slow it did get the job
>
>The catch with using w95 regardless of speed, it that for many cases its
>the only game in town if you want network services, ie winsocket etc.
Huh? What about linux, freebsd, and friends.?
Allison
At 01:16 02-04-2001 -0400, Bear wrote:
>They're just text. Part of the specification for a .cfg is that it have a
>descriptive name in it.
>
>Like this sample excerpt from !bus4201.cfg:
<snip>
Yes, all true. However, the design of the descriptor was left up to the
manufacturer. Compaq chose to put 'CPQ' in the front part of all their .CFG
filenames, and a four-digit number following it.
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Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu
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