- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Innfogra＠aol.com

There is another clue in this. I thought it booted DRDOS from the first message. I am not really familiar with DRDOS but I suspect a disk formatted under that would be different from formatting under MS or PCDOS. Do check your BIOS settings and battery. Paxton Astoria, OR

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IBM Kingston

by vance＠neurotica.com

I really wish IBM Kingston hadn't closed. That place was neat. Anyone here used to work there? Peace... Sridhar

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HP Laserjet Series II

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

> God bless you John! > > Mine has just started having paper getting stuck on the "teeth roller" > underneath the larger one next to the green felt "hot" area. It needs a new > smaller roller cause worn out. There are a number of rollers that look like > this, how do I tell which one it is in order to order the right one? Take a look at the PrinterWorks web site (http://www.printerworks.com/). They have exploded diagrams of the printer (you have an 'SX engine') with all the parts identified. You should be able to get a part number for each roller. -tony

23 years, 4 months

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collecting silicon wafers

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Not necessarily. If these have been passivated, your finger prints can be cleaned off. If not, the sodium will have destroyed the functioning of the transistors. Dwight >From: "Chandra Bajpai" <cbajpai(a)attbi.com> > >Before anyone goes in trying to cash in their wafers...I assume any >wafer that was not kept in a clean room environment is worthless. The >couple of wafers I have finger prints so they definitely are worthless! > >-Chandra > > >-----Original Message----- >From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org] >On Behalf Of Dwight K. Elvey >Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 5:24 PM >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: RE: collecting silicon wafers > >>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> >> >>On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Dave Wilson wrote: >>> My only anxiety is that the general interest in collecting >>> silicon may take off in a big way before I have managed to build >>> up a workable stock. >> >>Indeed. Just try to keep a "Silicon Wafers" category from being >created >>on eBay for as long as possible and you'll be in the clear for a while >:) >> > >Hi > Even wafer collecting can have monetary value. A while back, at >the beginning of the last Middle East action, there was a military >requirement for mil spec TTL parts. I don't recall which but >I believe it was 74139's that were in short supply. Anyone >with a wafer of these could just about name their price. > The fact is that most companies consider the wafers as >proprietary information. They would rather destroy it or send >it back to the foundry to be recycled. Wafers that do make >it to the outside world are usually from some company that >has shut down and had a warehouse of overstocks. >Dwight

23 years, 4 months

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DEC Network Equipment Up For Grabs

by rene＠creative-computing.com

Hello, I received this distribution list address from a friend of a friend. I have the following equipment for free. Either come and pick it up or pay to have it shipped to you. Rene ******************* > 2 DECnis 600s fully populated (spare power supply, spare cards, mostly memory/CPU) Lan Cards/Wan Cards/FDDI/ATM in both MPC 1 Processor Several Adaptor Cables for WAN Cards > 2 DECnis 500s Lan/ Wan Cards MPC 11 Processor > 1 GigaSwitch ATM 5 Slot Fully Populated / Management Card / MMF Cards / Dual Power Supply > 2 DECconcentrator 500 Fully populated 1 is okay //// 1 Doesn't Power on but the cards are good A/B Ports on Management Card 2 Slave cards are all M Ports > 2 500Mhz Desktop Alphas (DEC Unix or OpenVMS) FDDI Cards / Enet Cards CD Rom / Floppy (Small Blue Desktop machine) > 1 InfoServer Tower (6 Slot CD for OpenVMS) > 2 Proteon ClamShell Routers Digital Rebranded as RouteAbout ES > Several CSU/DSUs These are not Modem Eliminators 56KB Mostly Cray // Can be setup Back to Back Thanks for looking. Rene

23 years, 4 months

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Items For Free ???

by junkmale＠mindspring.com

Hi Just joined the list and came across this in the October archives from Rich Beaudry. Sorry but I don't know if I can contact you off list. I know the posting is a bit old but I thought it would not hurt to ask. I am looking for one or more IBM 3270 Microchannel cards for a pet project of mine. If you (or anyone else) still have this one card available I would be happy to pay the shipping costs and even offer a couple of dollars for your trouble if you like. I could use more than one if anyone else has any that they are willing to part with. Thanks for your time, Michael

23 years, 4 months

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ASR33 reader woes

by c.morris＠townsqr.com

From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) >May I ask a very simple question. What machine are you using this with (from the description below, I assume a PDP8). If it _is_ a PDP8, do you have the reader control relay mod fitted correctly? If not, then you _will_ drop characters I think. My computer is an 8/L. I do not have the relay fitted at all. After a careful examination of the schematic and manuals, this relay only forces TTY power on, in LINE mode (this is redundant if the TTY is already on and prepared to read a tape), and also forces 115V to the distributor trip coil so that a tape will immediately start reading if present. Without the relay a manual start is required by simply flipping the reader lever to "Start". Everything gets up to speed after one or two characters of leader no matter how the reader is initiated. No characters will be dropped since the program will loop indefinitely at the usual KSF, JMP.-1 until a character is assembled and sent to the TTY receiver card. >That's very odd. The most obvious mechanical problem would be wear on the ratchet wheel teeth in the reader. But that would cause problems once (or n times) for every revolution of that wheel (and the drive sproket) -- Quite. That's why I'm scratching my head! >So what you're saying is that it sends the correct number of chracters, but some of them are corrupted to 0's? Yes, when an error occurs while printing the test tape I can "hear" the nonprinting character being sent to the typing unit (it "jumps" but nothing appears on the paper) and the next consecutive char is then printed correctly. >Either your read pins are misaligned (they should come through the middle of the tape holes -- check this), or the contacts are sometimes not making properly. Agreed. They look centered to me (but what IS the definition of "centered" i.e. at what point in the read cycle? The tape and pins do not seem perfectly stationary with respect to one another during the read cycle.) The manual shows that the sprocket wheel should be rotated forward to take up the slack against the detent at which point the pins are centered in the holes. IF I'm reading this right. Actually they show a "Gate Flash" that looks like a hole on the side of the sprocket, which does not exist in my reader. >Try running the reader without tape, with the EOT sensor held down. It should then send all 1's. Check that it does (use the PDP8 for this with a similar program to yhe one you've written already, just get it to halt if the character is not all 1's). Let it run for many minutes. Excellent suggestion, thank you. I will try this right away. >A really Heath Robbinson (Rube Goldberg?) trick Who's Heath Robbinson? I always liked Rube Goldberg's inventions... >3) focus a camera on the reader mechanism. Set the aperture appropriately for the flashgun. Make the room dark, hold the shutter open on B, let it run 4) When the flash fires, close the shutter, turn everything off 5) Develop the film and hope that it shows you what the problem is. -tony Sounds awfully complicated. Perhaps I can do this with my Sony digital camera if it has a sync input! thanks for the tips -Charles

23 years, 4 months

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HP Laserjet Series II

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Mine has just started having paper getting stuck on the "teeth roller" >underneath the larger one next to the green felt "hot" area. It needs a new >smaller roller cause worn out. There are a number of rollers that look like >this, how do I tell which one it is in order to order the right one? www.fixyourownprinter.com They sell a rebuild kit for the LJ2 that addresses the jamming on pickup. They also have a number of other kits available, for assorted common jamming problems with that printer series. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 4 months

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more goodies?

by jmh＠SLAC.Stanford.EDU

I have recently come across original -- disks only -- (5 1/4") of Wordstar Pro 4.0, Turbo Pascal, Microsoft Word 5.0 and in 3 1/2" of Microsoft Presentation Manager. Also manual and 5 1/4 disk for SpinRite. Are these of interest or should I just toss them? Jim jmh(a)slac.stanford.edu

23 years, 4 months

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132 column (14x11) fanfold paper

by larry＠laurelnet.com

We take standard green-bar or blue-bar and print on the back side. Larry -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Tom Uban Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:19 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: 132 column (14x11) fanfold paper Does anyone know where 132 column (14x11) white (blank) fanfold paper is still available? Bowater used to make it years ago, but has since sold that business off... --tnx --tom

23 years, 4 months

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132 column (14x11) fanfold paper

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

Does anyone know where 132 column (14x11) white (blank) fanfold paper is still available? Bowater used to make it years ago, but has since sold that business off... --tnx --tom

23 years, 4 months

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HP79XX magnetic tape reader

by odemir＠metu.edu.tr

Dear Sir, I have a hp7974A magnetic tape reader and now I can read/write data on a magnetic tape via gpib+code (by C++) with 1600 PE density. However, the written data cannot be read our another hp7970B tape reader due to the fact that It can read the data with 800 NRZI tape density. As far as I know, hp7970E series can read both. Is it possible to buy one of it? and did You know where can i buy one? Thank you. odemir(a)metu.edu.tr

23 years, 4 months

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Printer Ribbon Source

by ProdFind＠aol.com

Apr 11/03 We are looking for 60 pieces obsolete printer ribbons IBM #1040920 for IBM printer 4772. We are desperate! Can you help? Thanks and regards Eric Sperwer Tel: (954) 438-6622

23 years, 4 months

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HP-85 HP-85B memory interface roms manuals for sale

by ravid＠cox.net

Hi, I have few items for HP-85 that I would like to sell. I have a few of each: 16K Memory Modules, 128K Memory Modules, Serial interfaces, HPIB interfaces, Modems, Rom drawers with different ROMS, Manuals and software. I can ship internationally. I am located in California USA. To make an offer for an item/s or ask questions please Email ravid(a)iovega.com. I will not monitor this board for the next week or so. Please Email me. I also have a lot of other vintage computers, software, and manuals. (TRS-80, Atari, Apple, Commodore, IBM, HP, and more) Thanks. Ravid.

23 years, 4 months

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Tandy 6000 (old xenix machine) needs rescuing...

by CCTalk＠catcorner.org

Right now it is in Malvern AR. Any takers, it will need to be picked up by 4/15/2003. bunch of other tandy and PeeCee equipment also. Kelly

23 years, 4 months

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The very first personal computers - How many are left?

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "The Design Fort DTP" <design.fort(a)ns.sympatico.ca> > >Hi all, > >One thing I was always interested in - and the visitors in my Computer >Museum often want to know - is how many of the very first personal computers >are still in existence. By first PCs I mean the following machines: >Kenbak 1 >Scelbi 8h >Mark-8 >IBM 5100 >Apple 1 >Altair 8800 >IMSAI 8080 Hi Missed the Poly88. Dwight > >I know it's quite difficult to figure out how many Altairs or IMSAIS are >still around. But a search on the Mark-8 e.G. (on the Internet) turned out >that there are only a handful still in existence. > >Greetings >Herbert

23 years, 4 months

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Needed rackmount stuff for an 8/E, 8/M, and 11/20...

by root＠parse.com

Hoping someone has some spare rackmount parts. For my 8/E, it was pulled out of a rack, so it just needs the parts that are inside the rack -- approximately 1+3/4" high sliders; my /E has the part that goes *into* the sliders. For my 8/M, it needs the complete rack kit, as does my 11/20. Anyone able to help out? Thanks in advance, -RK -- Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers!

23 years, 4 months

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Running T5200 R u interested?

by sidneybnice＠earthlink.net

Everything works but the floppy drive. Don't know if it is the controller or the floppy drive. Anyway it is in my closet taking up space. ______________________________ Respectfully and with my best regards, Sidney B. Nice sidneyb(a)vonl.com

23 years, 4 months

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How many Mark 8's?

by jontitus＠attbi.com

Hello: Let me chime in on the number of Mark-8 computers, etc. Several years ago I went through some old records that showed the royalties paid to me by both Radio-Electronics magazine and Techniques. R-E paid a small royalty for each of the instruction booklets they sold. You may recall the original magazine article could not hold all the information and construction details. Techniques paid a royalty on the sets of printed-circuit boards (PCBs) they sold. Based on the information I still have, I figure R-E sold about 7500 copies of the booklet, and Techniques sold about 400 sets of PCBs. Unfortunately, the original R-E article and the booklet failed to publish a key piece of information: the wiring diagram for the board-to-board connections. So, I heard from many people who needed this information, but these communications took place before email and low-cost fax, so I have no record nor recollection of how many people I spoke with. As you can probably guess, I also have no idea how many people actually built a Mark-8, nor do I know how many of those built systems still exist. My original Mark-8 is in the Smithsonian, and it was in working condition when it left here, so that counts as one system. The prototype memory board for the original point-to-point wired Mark-8 prototype went to the American Computer Museum in Bozeman, MT in October. The ACM also got mimeographed copies of the original "Mark-8 Newsletter" and its successor, the "Micro-8 Newsletter." If anyone has questions about the Mark-8, refer to the Web site: http://www.his.com/~jlewczyk/adavie/mark8b.html which contains information I wrote back in 1999. (I need to go back and clean it up a bit.) Please note, the email addresses in that posting are incorrect. People can reach me at the permanent email addresses: KZ1G(a)ARRL.NET or jontitus(a)hendrielane.com For a while longer, the jontitus(a)attbi.com email still works. We expect a shift to comcast.net sometime soon, though. Cheers, Jon Jon Titus 36 Sunset Drive Milford, MA 01757-1362 USA Phone: +1-508-478-8040 E-mail: jontitus(a)attbi.com Member, National Association of Science Writers

23 years, 4 months

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H89 CP/M hard-secored boot diskette

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I guess the next question is, does anyone have the dumps of these chips or what the new mapping is?? I suspect that there is some remapping of the memory and some for the I/O. I don't know why it would take 3 chips though. I'll have to dig through my stuff to find a schematic. I may be able to figure it out from there. Dwight >From: "Patrick Rigney" <patrick(a)evocative.com> > >> > > Tony, out of curiousity, what are your versions of the >> various PROMs and >> > > EPROMs at U516, 517, 518, and 520 on your Z90? >> > >> > That would involve getting to the Z90, which is not going to be >> > trivial.... > >FYI, I found this while trolling through some links on retroarchive.org. >Excerpt (edited) from an Arpanet message dated 17-feb-1984: > >"When I ordered CP/M the first time and it didn't work, I called >Heath and they said "Oh, yeah, you need a hardware upgrade!" >So I did the following: > >1) Replaced the 444-42 in U517 with a 444-66 >2) Connect a jumper from the middle pin of U503 to pin 17 of P509 >They assured me this would work. However, to make the full upgrade, >I could also do: >3) Replace the 444-40 in U518 with a 444-62 >4) Replace the 444-43 in U550 with a 444-61 >If I did this, I would lose cassette capability. Since this wasn't >necessary (they said) I decided to just do 1 & 2. > >When I did this and it still didn't work, I called Heath again. They >said it should have worked and my disk must be bad. So they sent me >a new disk..guess what, still didn't work. Then they say hardware >problem with the disk drive. That's when I put my problem on the net. >Mr. D. C. Finch of Phoenix was kind enough to write me a letter >(they have R/O access to the net) which told me that indeed 3 & 4 >were necessary (at least for CP/M 2.2.03 and later). So this morning >I called Heath again and they said, "That's right, you have to replace >all three chips!" Just wish they had said that back in November!! >I'll be happy to give anyone the details of Mr. Finch's letter if >asked, I don't think most people are that interested.

23 years, 4 months

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Tandy 6000 available for pickup in AR (was RE: TRS-80 Madness)

by kelly＠catcorner.org

not by me... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=179&item=3412008207&r d=1 A 6000 with external HD and some software. Must pick it up though. Comes with a bunch of PeeCees too. Guy says you can pick and choose what you want. Only 4 hours left and is only $1.00 right now... Kelly

23 years, 4 months

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Interfacing HP82905A Printer to HP85

by vassilip＠dsl.cis.upenn.edu

The manual is available at <http://www.series80.org/Manuals/HP82905B.pdf> The www.series80.org site contains scanned manuals, programs and pictures of the HP Series computers and peripherals. **vp

23 years, 4 months

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Juki 6100

by Profllew＠aol.com

Mike Davis, You probably already have an answer on your question about a ribbon for the Juki, but on the rare chance you haven't: Ribbons for the IBM Selectric II work on the Juki. Some of the newer ribbons tend to snag about half way thru and I have to remove the old ribbon half and attach the new to make the ribbon work. I'm trying to find a driver for the Juki to install on newer word processors. Bill Lllewellyn

23 years, 4 months

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HP Laserjet Series II

by jklein＠electronic-boardroom.com

God bless you John! Mine has just started having paper getting stuck on the "teeth roller" underneath the larger one next to the green felt "hot" area. It needs a new smaller roller cause worn out. There are a number of rollers that look like this, how do I tell which one it is in order to order the right one? Thanks very much. Somewhere down the line I'll return the favor. Regards, June

23 years, 4 months

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V-Tel

by acruicks＠cix.compulink.co.uk

Dear Andreas, I found your message; http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2002-December/005834.html I wondered whether you would be willing to give me a copy of your 'V-Tel' client? I've been looking for something to Telnet into a mail server using the PsiMail Internet TCP/IP stack, but all I've found so far is alpha-quality Telnet clients. I would be very grateful if you could help. Regards, Alex Alex Cruickshank 12 Barton Way, Croxley Green, Herts., WD3 3QA, UK +44 (0)1923 773112 acruicks(a)cix.co.uk

23 years, 4 months

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Favorite Terminal Emulator

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

Does anyone have a favorite Windows based terminal emulator? I've been evaluating several but I haven't come across any with every terminal I'd like to emulate and every feature I've been looking for. Tiger Term - http://www.tigerterm.co.uk <http://www.tigerterm.co.uk/> is my current favorite but it's missing a few terminal emulations that I'd prefer (VT100 being the most important). Any package I consider would support most vintage terminal types and ascii file transfers as well as a few more common protocols (XModem, Kermit, etc.) So, does anyone have a favorite for when they aren't firing up there ADM3A or VT52? Erik

23 years, 4 months

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132 column (14x11) fanfold paper

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Apr 11, 13:46, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: > On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Tom Uban wrote: > > Does anyone know where 132 column (14x11) white (blank) fanfold > > paper is still available? Bowater used to make it years ago, but > > has since sold that business off... > > A petty correction: > It's 14 7/8, NOT 14. (15 7/8 including the edges). The nominal size sold here is 14.5" (and the stuff in boxes I have here measures 14 5/8") including the edges. And that makes sense, because 132 columns is nominally 13.2" (at 10 chars/inch pitch), plus a little for margins, plus 1/2" each side. I have seen listing paper described as 14x11, but it's actually about 14.5" x 11"; I've seen 11 x 15 1/16" (in a catalogue); I don't remember ever seeing anything as wide as 15 7/8". -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 4 months

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Fw: [rescue] [dlj9@earthlink.net: PDP11-34]

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bradford" <mrbill> To: <rescue> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: [rescue] [dlj9(a)earthlink.net: PDP11-34] > Please contact Mr. Jones directly. Surely someone can save this.. > > Can someone also forward to classiccmp? > > Bill > > ----- Forwarded message from Douglas L Jones <dlj9(a)earthlink.net> ----- > > Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:11:25 -0700 > To: mrbill > From: Douglas L Jones <dlj9(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: PDP11-34 > > DEC PDP11 Rescuer: > > We have a PDP11/34 & 2 RK-05j drives with ~16 disk packs (some with RT-11 > v.4 software) and a 6' DEC rack with power panel that needs a good > home! We also have an 11/04 with a few boards and an RX-02 dual 8" floppy > drive unit. The /34 worked from 1979 till 2001 when we converted over to a > PC system. The /04 was last operated in the mid '80s. We also have a lot > of "paper" to go with them! > > Recycling them in some form would be much preferred to dumping in a land > fill, but we need to get rid of them very soon. The "no cost to us" option > would be great, if you have a mechanism for accomplishing that. Let me > know when the truck will be at our front door! > > Thanks, > Douglas Jones > Laboratory Director > > > -- > DOUGLAS L JONES > 8123 SW 184th Ave OMEGA ANALYTICAL SERVICES dlj9(a)earthlink.net > Aloha, OR 97007 "The Final Word In Surface Analysis" 503-649-8203 > (SiForest, USA) http://www.teleport.com/~dougj/oas/ <IX0YE>< > ******************************************************************** > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > bill bradford > mrbill > austin, texas > _______________________________________________ > rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue

23 years, 4 months

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Apple Lisa XL on eBay

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Boy now the XL's are going for crazy prices. $750 plus $75 shipping and handling. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3411411855

23 years, 4 months

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Help nomenclature???

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

IBM had a standard for text based user interfaces. Systems Architecure blah blah.. Many of the DOS6.2 programs exibit this user interface, like "Edit" and perhaps "Qbasic" What was that called?? Thanks.

23 years, 4 months

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ICS Electronics IEEE 488 Speech Synthesizer ????

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I found this recently. It's a model 4800 IEEE 488 (HP-IB) Speech Synthesizer made by ICS Electronics. Does anyone have ANY info on this? I searched ICS's site and ran Google and Altavista searchs but found nothing. Joe

23 years, 4 months

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TRS-80 Madness

by pat＠purdueriots.com

To me it looks like just another TRS-80 model 4, with some common software. Which, to me, means that it's worth quite a bit less than what it's going for: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3411037612&category=1247 (For those non-web-inclined, it's at $510 with 3.7 hrs left) Is this just a fluke, or have these things gone up a lot in value since I last looked at them? My guess, is of course, 'just eBay prices,' but even on eBay, I rarely see pricing *that far* off what I'd expect. Pat -- Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

23 years, 4 months

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Mimic 8080

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

Does anyone know anything about the mimic 8080? These are the only pictures I've found so far. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=3411844327… This site ( http://www.bink.org/Portfolio/MIMIC.htm ) give some details about what they did. "when electronics products were specifically designed for their intended functions, and features were typically hardwired, all the MIMICs shared the same underlying, programmable, microprocessor based, mutable system of boards, varied only in their configuration and firmware." But there are no pictures or specs

23 years, 4 months

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more goodies?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Spinrite is ALWAYS usefull to have around if you do any work with the older PCs. When scrounging I always take a look at the back of PCs for any unusual PC cards. Frequently I can recover the drivers from the hard drive (if it hasn't been removed) but the drives are frequently is sad shape and Spinrite is great for recovering data. Joe At 01:04 PM 4/11/03 -0700, you wrote: >I have recently come across original -- disks only -- (5 1/4") of Wordstar Pro 4.0, Turbo Pascal, Microsoft Word 5.0 and in 3 1/2" of Microsoft >Presentation Manager. Also manual and 5 1/4 disk for SpinRite. Are these of >interest or should I just toss them? > >Jim > >jmh(a)slac.stanford.edu

23 years, 4 months

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The very first personal computers - How many are left?

by swtpc6800＠attbi.com

I think of a personal computer as one that was owned by an individual for use in a home. The same computer could also be used in a commercial setting but these computers were often in homes. In 1979 I had about six HP 9825 calculators in my basement. These “calculators” were great computers but they cost many time more than my SWTPC 6800 system did. (I was setting up a contract project so these 9825 were just rented. There was over $100,000 worth of rented equipment in the house.) Even though I had a HP 9825 in my home I don’t think of it as a “personal computer”. ------------------------------- Michael Holley swtpc6800(a)attbi.com www.swtpc.com/mholley -------------------------------

23 years, 4 months

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Documation M1000 card reader on ebay

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Hi folks -- there's a Documation M1000L card reader up for auction on eBay -- Item # 3603141802, title "Documation 1000 Voting Ballot Card Reader." Currently no bids with 9 hours left, $99. I don't know what type of interface the L model has but it's 1000 cards/minute. I have an M200 and an M600 already so if you're looking for a card reader, please buy this and save me from being tempted to get it myself. Brian PS - am writing this from home with Outlook Express, which appears to append HTML even when asked not to, so I apologize in advance for that.

23 years, 4 months

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Tandon LT/386

by cb＠mythtech.net

I have a Tandon LT/386 laptop here. I really don't think I want it. I've had it for a while, I was given it a number of years ago. I was going to use it to connect to my phone system as a programming station, but I never could get it to connect properly (the phone system is a little picky about what computers it lets connect). And now I have an old 486 laptop serving that duty anyway. According to the label on the back, it is a 16 MHz system, with a 40 MB HDD. There is also a 3.5 HD FDD, a serial port, parallel port, 2 PS/2 ports, VGA, and some kind of expansion slot. Memory test at boot only shows 1024 K of RAM (could be a config issue however, first boot said the config was bad and needed to be reset) I don't know if the battery holds a charge (I seem to recall when it was given to me, I was told it has a brand new battery, but I got it so long ago, I'm not positive, nor can I say if the battery is still any good). I have it plugged in right now to see if it will charge. The HDD is rather loud, and the screen (black and white) is sucky... really sucky. But the thing boots to the HDD (DOS 6.22 is on it right now, along with a few other odds and ends... all internal software, nothing really confidential, so I doubt I will blank it). I might also have the carrying case, and the manual around here somewhere (although if I have the case, I may keep it as I could use an extra laptop bag). If anyone wants the thing, its up for grabs (just cover shipping). Since I'm trying to scrounge up as many pennies as possible (trying to buy a house), if for some bizzare reason I get more than one person that wants it... it will go to whoever gives me the best offer for it (best offer can be trading of stuff... I like Apple/Mac stuff... but I really need money more than I need additional toys). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 4 months

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docs for ods 1.0/sunos 4.1.4

by alex＠trdlnk.com

Hi, I've installed ODS 1.0 on a SunOS 4.1.4 box, but I can't seem to find any documentation on how to use it. Did the google thing, but couldn't find much. Any ideas? Thanks. -Alex

23 years, 4 months

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DEC 7000 available in exchange for help with big stuff from Boston

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I set a reward of a nice DEC 7000 with 4 CPUs (AXP) and 1.5 GB RAM and SCSI for the one who would come with a truck and get it and --- here is the catch --- bring me my VAX 11/785 (plus more) gear from Boston. I was going to sell the 7000 on ebay to make money to afford the move, but now I figure that a trade in this way would be the more conservative thing to do. Anybody interested? thanks, -Gunther X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Received: from pop015.verizon.net (pop015pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.172]) by aurora.regenstrief.org (8.12.3/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2T36aqK012910 for <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org>; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:06:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fdebros(a)verizon.net) Received: from fred ([141.154.74.176]) by pop015.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030329030632.PKIL24156.pop015.verizon.net@fred> for <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org>; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:06:32 -0600 From: "Fred deBros" <fdebros(a)verizon.net> To: "'Gunther Schadow'" <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org> Subject: RE: Vaxen vultures on ebay ... and is "rtlacy" here? Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:06:02 -0500 Message-ID: <001701c2f5a0$21b1d430$6401a8c0@fred> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3E84BA46.3090800(a)aurora.regenstrief.org> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop015.verizon.net from [141.154.74.176] at Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:06:32 -0600 What can I do for u sir? Fred/Boston Now I wonder, just in case, is anyone of you out in the Boston area, just in case? regards, -Gunther

23 years, 4 months

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micropolis disk question

by quapla＠xs4all.nl

Hello all, I have picked up 2 micropolis disks, type 1325. Question is, are they ESDI or ST-506 type of disks? The card edge connectors are identical. Thanks, Ed --

23 years, 4 months

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Fwd: ..Hi.........Can you help?

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Hi, gang, I received the attached E-mail from a math tutor at one of the schools outside Pittsburgh. He needs assistance with some Apple II stuff that I have no familiarity with at all. If any of you can help in what certainly seems to be a worthy quest, please contact Randy directly. Thanks much. Attachment follows. *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 10-Apr-03 at 13:01 Randy Sammons <rsammons4(a)attibi.com> wrote: >Hello, > Can you help me? I tutor math at a juvenile institution >outside of Pittsburgh, Pa. and still use an Apple II E computer(made in >1982). My math program is a very good one...but now down to three 5 >1/4" disks which were made in 1984. The software company is long out >of existence.(Instructional Communications Technoglogy,Inc.) > Do you know of anyone who has three useable 5 1/4" disks?..(my >disks say: Apple II (48K) Dos 3.3 Version)..and can my three disks be >copied? > ..Can these disks be copied to a normal 3 1/2" PC disk? > Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated. > Thank you, > Randy Sammons > Irwin, Pa. > 724.864.2719 > > *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

23 years, 4 months

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Installing SAVER on RSTS/E

by cmcnabb＠4mcnabb.net

I have this 9 track tape labeled "Saver Version 2.8 for RSTS". The tape appears to be 100% readable, and I'd like to install the software. Trouble is, I don't have any docs on the installation procedure. Any one have any info? -- Christopher L McNabb Operating Systems Analyst Email: cmcnabb(a)4mcnabb.net Virginia Tech ICBM: 37.1356N 80.4272N GMRS: WPSR255 ARS: N2UX Grid Sq: EM97SD

23 years, 4 months

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For sale/give away

by korpela＠ssl.berkeley.edu

For anyone who tried to reach me after about 21:00 PDT last night, we had a little configuration problem here that resulted in bounced mail. Please try again, as most of the items are still available. It looks like the problem is now fixed. Sorry for the bounces. Eric

23 years, 4 months

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Sun Sparc 1+ real cheap

by gmanuel＠gmconsulting.net

Don't know if this would be of interest to anyone here. These are Sun Sparc 1+ systems for $5.00 US. http://www.pcliquidator.com/detailproduct.asp?which=864 I am not affiliated with them in anyway. Greg Manuel

23 years, 4 months

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HP9885 8" floppy unit

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

FYI, there are a couple of pictures of HP 98622 GPIO cards at <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521082261&category=25400>. The item there isn't a DataComm unit. It's a system expander chassis for an HP 9000 200 or 300 series computer! It has four GPIO cards, three Datacomm cards and one HP-IB card in it. The empty slot at the bottom is supposed to house the interface card that connects it back to a 9000 200 or 300 series computer. Note that the interface cards cover TWO expansion slots even though they only use one slot. It's very possible that there are other cards installed in this chassis but they're covered up and can't be seen. Joe

23 years, 4 months

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"Practicle Microprocessors" was Re: TRS-80 Madness

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Somebody here was looking for this book at couple of weeks ago. Mike has one included with a HP 5036 Microprocesor lab that he's selling in his other auctions. Joe > > Hey the seller is our very own Mike (Dog Ass) Haas! I think that's the model 4 that I gave him at the last junk-fest we had down here. I'm SURE that he's pleased with the price. > > Joe > >At 06:19 PM 4/9/03 -0500, you wrote: >>To me it looks like just another TRS-80 model 4, with some common >>software. Which, to me, means that it's worth quite a bit less than >>what it's going for: >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3411037612&category=1247 >> >>(For those non-web-inclined, it's at $510 with 3.7 hrs left) >> >>Is this just a fluke, or have these things gone up a lot in value since I >>last looked at them? My guess, is of course, 'just eBay prices,' but even >>on eBay, I rarely see pricing *that far* off what I'd expect. >> >>Pat >>-- >>Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS >>Information Technology at Purdue >>Research Computing and Storage >>http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

23 years, 4 months

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HP9885 8" floppy unit

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Sergio, Are you still interested in connecting a HP 9885 to your HP 9000/380? I've been going through some of my old HP manuals and I've found a lot more info. You definitely need the HP 98622 GPIO interface. The standard 98622 has a 50 pin female Ampenol connector (ie "SCSI" connector) and you'll have to make you're own cable. But if you find a 98622 option 002 interface it already has a 0.8m cable and connector for the 9885 disk drive. It also has the jumpers already set for use with the 9885 drive. The 98622 jumpers should be set as follows; BSY and BSY 0; PCL, PFLG, PSTS, HSHK, DIN, DOUT, RD, RDY, RD, RDY all set to 1. I know there appear to be some duplcates in the lists above but that's the way they're shown in the 98622 manual. I have the pin outs of the 98622 but I don't have them for the 9885. At least I don't have them readily available. Assuming that you're running BASIC, you need to load the GPIO.BIN and HP9885.BIN files. The GPIO file provides drivers for the 98622 hardware and the HP9885 file provides the driver for the 9885 drive. I'm not sure what you need if you're running other languages. Joe > >Sergio, > > Yes it CAN be attached. You'd have to use the GPIO interface and probably have to write you're own drivers. The GPIO interface is the nearest thing to the original interface (HP 98034 option 85 IIRC) for the 9885. I THINK I remember that HP did make an 9885 interface for the early 9000 200 series computers but I don't remember the details. The original interface for the 9885 is a 16 bit parallel interface, it is NOT SASI or SCSI. > > Joe > >At 10:33 PM 4/2/03 +0200, you wrote: >>Hello. Somebody knows if one HP9885 8" floppy unit can be attached to one >>HP- >>9000/380 ? The unit came with one 50-pin SCSI or SASI type connector, and >>one >>37-pin connector. >> >>Thanks and Greetings. >> >>Sergio

23 years, 4 months

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TRS-80 Madness

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Hey the seller is our very own Mike (Dog Ass) Haas! I think that's the model 4 that I gave him at the last junk-fest we had down here. I'm SURE that he's pleased with the price. Joe At 06:19 PM 4/9/03 -0500, you wrote: >To me it looks like just another TRS-80 model 4, with some common >software. Which, to me, means that it's worth quite a bit less than >what it's going for: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3411037612&category=1247 > >(For those non-web-inclined, it's at $510 with 3.7 hrs left) > >Is this just a fluke, or have these things gone up a lot in value since I >last looked at them? My guess, is of course, 'just eBay prices,' but even >on eBay, I rarely see pricing *that far* off what I'd expect. > >Pat >-- >Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS >Information Technology at Purdue >Research Computing and Storage >http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

23 years, 4 months

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DEC Star Coupler

by pat＠purdueriots.com

Saw these when scrounging through eBay auctions. No relation to seller/merchandise/etc http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3411169964&category=1247 "DEC PDP Digital SC008-AB Star Coupler A & B" Looks like the Star Coupler that I sold a few weeks ago on the list. Pat -- Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

23 years, 4 months

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SN76477N

by Eurtly＠Southslope.net

I have been looking for the Chip " SN76477N " from Radio Shack, they do not sell it any more and have no idea where to find one. Could you help me on this matter. I designed a circuit over 20 years ago and now I have decided to put it together, this requires (2) SN76477N sound chips... Thank You Mr. Eurtly Parker Email: Eurtly(a)Engineer.com

23 years, 4 months

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HP computer manuals FA

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I've just finished listing a pile of HP computer manuals on E-bay. There are manuals for both BASIC and HP-UX. A couple of the BASIC manuals are VERY helpfull if you own a HP 9000 series 200 or 300 computer. I STRONGLY recommend the BASIC Programming Techniques and BASIC Interfacing Techniques manuals if you're trying to use one of these computers. See <http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=rigdonj>. I will be listing more as I have time to sort through them. Joe

23 years, 4 months

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OT: "Nortair" on TV

by melamy＠earthlink.net

If they used Norton then they were a few years too early to warrant giving him any credit. He was a PC guy that released the Norton Utilities in 1982-1983 timeframe - after the blinkly light period of the late 70s (unless someone can tell me what credit Peter should deserve for the non-pc era). best regards, Steve Thatcher >--- Original Message --- >From: Jeffrey Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com> >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Date: 4/8/03 3:32:39 AM > On Monday, April 7, 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: >> On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Andrew Strouse wrote: >> > Hi all. I was watching Malcom in the Middle last night and they had a >> > classic computer storyline. The were cleaning out their garage and >> > found a "Nortair" computer. It looked to me like an altair front panel >> > with the base but no cover and no cards inside. >> >> I guess that name is supposed to be a catenation of "Northstar" and >> "Altair". > >You give these people too much credit. I'd say "Norton" and "Altair". > >-- >Jeffrey Sharp

23 years, 4 months

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Need Resue Fw: Older Computer Equipment Here

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Anyone in the area wanting any of these items please contact him directly. I have not stake in this. ----- Original Message ----- From: pegntim23 To: jrkeys(a)concentric.net Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:29 PM Subject: Older Computer Equipment Here I found your address on a web page of folks interested in old computer equipment. I have the equipment listed below in Council Bluffs, Iowa, but have relatives in St. Paul. If you are interested in any of it (for free), please reply and if it is still available, we'll arrange a hookup. 1) PC CPU: Gateway 2000 P5-120 (won't boot, hard drive crashed? or virus? Has CD-ROM, Tape Drive, 3.25 floppy, and sound card) 2) SCANNER: Mustek 600III EP (just stopped scanning one day a few months ago). 3) SCANNER: Optic Pro 9630P (given to me by a friend when mine quit working, but I never did hook it up as I didn't have driver disks) 4) INKJET PRINTER: HP Deskjet 1120C (wide format, colors aren't coming out right even with a new ink cartridge) 5) INKJET PRINTER: HP PaintJetXL (a real dinosaur, but worked fine before I disconnected it a couple years ago) 6) COPIER: Sharp SF-7100 (worked fine five years ago, but haven't plugged in since!) I may or may not have software/drivers that came with them -- specify if this is important to you.

23 years, 4 months

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The very first personal computers - How many are left?

by mranalog＠attbi.com

> > Move it over one decimal place to the left. From what I know, about > > 50,000 Altair's of all models were produced. > Math check: move the decimal RIGHT (i.e. at least 5,000). Instead of throwing number around forever, why doesn't someone just ask Steve Shepard? He was a customer service rep. (or something like that) for MITS. And at one time he maintained a list of all of MITS customers. Next, someone could ask Todd Fischer about the number of IMSAIs. Or ask Lee Felsenstein and Bob Marsh about SOL 10s and 20s. Or ask Jon Titus about the Mark-8. etc. etc. etc. > > > I just did a cursory web search and couldn't find this register. > > That site went defunct a while ago. > That's too bad. > At least he's still got the http://www.altairmanuals.com/ site running. That's not David Freibrun or Steve Gabaly, that's Steve Shepard's site. --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog =========================================

23 years, 4 months

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some computers

by joe_web＠worldonline.fr

hello, have anyone some of this computers to sell or to give? - ORB (Abs computer) - acces computer ( access computer) - apricot pc (apricot act) - 1000 series (alpha micro) - ws 1 (ampere) - imagination machine (apf electronic inc.) - apple III - Apple IIe - apple IIc+ - macintosh - macintosh+ - macintosh II - macintosh SE - systemx (asci) - pc 6300 (at&t) - basis 108 (basis) - mimi 802/803/804 (british micro) - l'attach? (bull) - micral 80/22 (bull) - 65 (cab) so it was all for this time, if you are an other computer to give or to sell; say it me ! thanks at all, joel weber

23 years, 4 months

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New to list - with a DG/UX question

by aeg＠paradise.net.nz

Hi All I am new to the list joining you from New Zealand. I have been interested in computers for a long time and I'm always picking stuff up at thrift shops and junk shops (much to the annoyance of my wife) so I thought I ought to learn a little more about what I have. My collection, so far, is rather unstructured and not catalogued in any way (I am in the process of rectifying this). My first question to the list may not even qualify for the 10 year age regulation (but I hope it does on the interest factor). I have recently acquired a Data General Aviion 8500 server (quad processor) and a Clariion 2200 (20 disk array). Both units are in great condition coming >from a local Health Authority ;0) The Aviion came without any OS or media - my searches have lead to the conclusion that this unit will only run DG/UX and nothing else. Well... a copy of DG/UX 4.0 arrived in the post yesterday and I have been trying to get things moving ever since. Does anyone on the list know if I can boot the OS from CD. My CD drive is recognised (ID3) but I get nowhere. Would copying the CD to tape be a better option? Any thoughts, ideas, help or sarcastic comments will be received. Alan

23 years, 4 months

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Favorite Terminal Emulator

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Erik S. Klein" <classiccmp(a)vintage-computer.com> wrote: > Does anyone have a favorite Windows based terminal emulator? For serial: TeraTerm For network (only): PuTTY I haven't really needed either to emulate anything other than something VT100ish. For HP terminal emulation, Telnet or serial: AICS Research's QCTerm. -Frank McConnell

23 years, 4 months

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The very first personal computers - How many are left?

by swtpc6800＠attbi.com

I am a Southwest Technical Products 6800 collector and I normally define the first personal computers as those made before mid 1977. (You could be strict and say they had to introduced in 1975.) Almost all of these were only available in kit form. Even the Apple 1 and KIM required you to build a power supply. In mid 1977 the Apple II , the PET and the TRS 80 brought personal computers to those who did not know which end of a soldering iron you held. I don't know how many SWTPC 6800 were made, I still have 3. SWTPC never have a large market share but lasted longer than most of the early companies. They made computers until the mid 1980s. Michael Holley www.swtpc.com/mholley >From: "The Design Fort DTP" <design.fort(a)ns.sympatico.ca> > >Hi all, > >One thing I was always interested in - and the visitors in my Computer >Museum often want to know - is how many of the very first personal computers >are still in existence. By first PCs I mean the following machines: >Kenbak 1 >Scelbi 8h >Mark-8 >IBM 5100 >Apple 1 >Altair 8800 >IMSAI 8080

23 years, 4 months

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3.5" floppy drive in IBM XT?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I picked up an old IBM XT today and it has a 3.5" floppy drive in it (and it works!) Anybody ever heard of this? The drive has it's own controller card and both it and the drive appear to be IBM parts. )I haven't pulled everything apart to be sure.) FWIW the computer also has a FH 5 1/4" floppy drive and a HH 5 1/4" 10 Mb hard drive with a Seagate logo on the front of it. Anybody know if this is an original XT hard drive or a replacement drive? It's been so long since I've seen an original XT with the 10 Mb drive that I don't remember much about it. Joe

23 years, 4 months

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anybody want a Dauphin LapPro 286 User's Manual?

by kurtk7＠visi.com

Hello Yes, I would like it, if it is still available. Thanks Kurt -----Original Message----- From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:22 PM Subject: anybody want a Dauphin LapPro 286 User's Manual? >Found today in a scrap today. I figured someone would want it. > > Joe

23 years, 4 months

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Complete NEC find Today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

At a local thrift I found in a brown carrying case the following items: NEC PC8201A computer (works great) A LAPDOS cable converter for 1986 made by Traveling Software Two Traveling Software manuals IDEA and T-Word A 10 foot long ribbon cable Purple Computing model D103 external floppy drive (3.5) in it was a T-DOS floppy from Traveling Software TRS-80 model 100 SCRIPSIT 100 cassette and manual TRS-80 Executive Calendar cassette and manual All the power supplies and cables to hook everything together. I searched with google trying to find some information on the Purple drive with no luck anyone have doc's for it?

23 years, 4 months

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Need info HP 28S

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Anyone know the size or type of batteries used in this model? On the back cover it shows three batteries being used to power the calculator. Thanks in advance

23 years, 4 months

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ADAMcomputer domains

by cmurray＠eagle.ca

The Coleco ADAM does indeed exist. I've been a memeber of the community since 1984. We are having our annual conventioni on Vancouver Island this August. Murray cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org wrote: > Send cctalk mailing list submissions to > cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: Helpful Identification Site (G Manuel) > 2. Re: No Rear View (was Re: Take Two or Nothing) (Steve Jones) > 3. Re: ID this DEC card? GS-2 5015484-01-k1-p1 (Eric Smith) > 4. Video Card for HP 9000/217 - was : HP-86B Monitor question (Bernd Kopriva) > 5. Recovering data from disks... (Jim Donoghue) > 6. RE: HP 5451c terminal cable (Peter Brown) > 7. Re: Recovering data from disks... (Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)) > 8. Re: ID this DEC card? GS-2 5015484-01-k1-p1 (Kevin Handy) > 9. Re: ebay bid on dec rack (Zane H. Healy) > 10. Re: Recovering data from disks... (Jim Donoghue) > 11. Re: Recovering data from disks... (Dwight K. Elvey) > 12. Re: ID this DEC card? GS-2 5015484-01-k1-p1 (Ethan Dicks) > 13. Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga (Geoff Roberts) > 14. Re: ID this DEC card? GS-2 5015484-01-k1-p1 (Patrick Finnegan) > 15. Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga (John Allain) > 16. Re: RA-81 reliability (was Re: ebay bid on dec rack) (Huw Davies) > 17. Re: Kleinstrechenautomat D4e (Doug Coward) > 18. Identification of an old machine (Hills, Paul) > 19. Re: Identification of an old machine (Hans B Pufal) > 20. Re: ID this DEC card? GS-2 5015484-01-k1-p1 (Dr. Ido) > 21. Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga (David Woyciesjes) > 22. Re: Kleinstrechenautomat D4e (Vintage Computer Festival) > 23. Re: Identification of an old machine (Vintage Computer Festival) > 24. Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga (David Woyciesjes) > 25. Re: Identification of an old machine (John Allain) > 26. Re: ebay bid on dec rack (John Allain) > 27. Re: Kleinstrechenautomat D4e (Hans Franke) > 28. Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga (David Woyciesjes) > 29. Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga (David Woyciesjes) > 30. Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga (Ethan Dicks) > 31. Microvax 3400 on eBay (Terry Freeman) > 32. RE: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga (Antonio Carlini) > 33. Fw: AdamComputer.com domains (Jay West) > 34. Re: Fw: AdamComputer.com domains (Bryan Pope) > 35. RE: AdamComputer.com domains (Adrian Vickers) > 36. RE: Fw: AdamComputer.com domains (Bob Mason) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "G Manuel" <gmanuel(a)gmconsulting.net> > To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE: Helpful Identification Site > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:07:22 -0500 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Sorry about that. Thank you for the welcome. I am from Philadelphia, PA. I > mainly collect micros and early PC's although I have had an IBM System 34 in > the past. Still have some parts around for it I think lol. I have been > programming since '77 doing RPG on a IBM System 360. Currently I run my own > consulting firm specializing in high end programmer training and custom app > development. > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On > Behalf Of Joe > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 12:42 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Helpful Identification Site > > Hi Greg, > > Welcome to the list. Where are you from and what are your interest? > > Joe > > At 11:13 AM 3/26/03 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi everyone, > > > >I am kinda new to the list. I have noticed alot of emails where people are > >trying to identify one particular board or another. Just thought I would > >share this site with those who don't know about it. Most boards have an FCC > >ID# on them. Enter it at this site and it can give you some information > >about the board that you can then use as a jumping off point for further > >research. I apologize to anyone that may already have this info. > > > >http://www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid/ > > > >I hope it helps some of you out. On a side note, I have a whole slew of old > >boards and equipment that I am willing to share and as soon as I can > >inventory them I will post a list for you all. > > > >Greg Manuel > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Steve Jones" <classiccmp(a)crash.com> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: No Rear View (was Re: Take Two or Nothing) > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:57:41 -0500 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Ethan Dicks wrote: > . > > I brought home an 11/34, several RL02s and the two H960 DEC > > racks (72" tall) in the back of my 1976 VW Microbus. > > Darn. I was getting set to respond to this thread with the tale of > borrowing a friend's camper version Microbus to haul home my "new" > VAX-11/730 in late 1990. But that was just a single low-boy cabinet, > and now I feel like a whiner... ;^) > > --Steve. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:07:06 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: ID this DEC card? GS-2 5015484-01-k1-p1 > From: "Eric Smith" <eric-nospam-638(a)brouhaha.com> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Joe wrote: > > It has no card edge connectors like a > > Q-bus or Unibus card but does have a metal plate with connectors > > along one side. The plate has a BNC, DB-9M, DB-15M, DB-25M, RJ > > (something) and an eight pin Molex connecotr on it. The board has a > > NEC 7220 graphics IC, an AMD 8085 CPU and several LSICs with DEC > > copywrites on it. > > Sounds like a VT220 or VT240 logic board. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: "Bernd Kopriva" <bernd(a)kopriva.de> > To: "cctalk(a)classiccmp.org" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:17:34 +0100 > Subject: Video Card for HP 9000/217 - was : HP-86B Monitor question > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > I will receive a HP 9000/217 within the next weeks ... > ... there will be a 90204A video card included (or maybe a 98627A), but both of them > will not work with a "Standard VGA multisync monitor" ... > > >My 86s work with both the Apple and HP composite monitors. It's the > >9920 (aka 9000/220) that uses the 30kHz horizontal sync instead of the > >usual 15kHz and requires one of the special HP models, such as the HP > >35731A. > ... what card do you mean ? > > > > Is there a video card for my 9000/217, which can be used with a multisync VGA monitor ? > > Thanks Bernd > > Bernd Kopriva Phone: ++49-7195-179452 > Weilerstr. 24 E-Mail: bernd(a)kopriva.de > D-71397 Leutenbach > Germany > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Subject: Recovering data from disks... > From: Jim Donoghue <jim(a)smithy.com> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Date: 26 Mar 2003 15:06:05 -0500 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > I have several 5 1/4" *hard-sectored* floppy disks. These are in some > proprietary format, they are read by a controller that consists of a Z80 > CPU, an EPROM, and some TTL chips. All this thing does is read the > entire contents of the disk, outputting the data in parallel format over > a ribbon cable. This is used to load CPU microcode into static RAMS. > I want to be able to read the data from the disks, as I no longer have > the controller/drive (or the mainframe it came from.) > Any ideas? > -- > Jim Donoghue > Smithy Co. > (734) 913-6700 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > From: "Peter Brown" <peterbrown10(a)hotmail.com> > To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: HP 5451c terminal cable > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:44:16 +0000 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Hi Glen and Joe, > > Thanks for your replies. I've had a closer look at the controller / > computer / terminal connections. It seems to work something like this > > The 2648A terminal has a 13260A card that is connected via a short hooded > edge connector and cable to a longer hooded edge connector on the rear of > the 'controller' box. The controller box is then connected via another > cable (that I have) to a 12531 card the HP 1000 computer. > > The long hooded connector on the controller has the same number of contacts > as the 12531 card in the computer - so I would assume that it is just > replicating the contacts in the computer. > > The controller box has a number of short-cut keys for various functions that > the system can perform so I would guess that the controller can inject > characters into the connection between the terminal and the computer. > > My memory is that all the funcions have two character shortcuts that can be > typed in at the terminal and I notice a couple of cards with diode matricies > in the controller. There is a diode array for each key consisting of up to > 16 diodes - 2 lots of eight bit ascii - maybe. > > Anyhow, Glen it looks as though your cable detective work is correct. The > cable is a 13232B p/n 02640-60058 for connecting the 2648A to a 12531 > interface. > > Joe can you please have a fish around and see if you have the right cable + > we can work something out. > If not then I'll have to take the build-it-yourself approach. > > Many thanks to you both. > > Peter Brown > > _________________________________________________________________ > Surf together with new Shared Browsing > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:00:15 -0800 (PST) > From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > cc: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Recovering data from disks... > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > On 26 Mar 2003, Jim Donoghue wrote: > > I have several 5 1/4" *hard-sectored* floppy disks. These are in some > > proprietary format, they are read by a controller that consists of a Z80 > > CPU, an EPROM, and some TTL chips. All this thing does is read the > > entire contents of the disk, outputting the data in parallel format over > > a ribbon cable. This is used to load CPU microcode into static RAMS. > > I want to be able to read the data from the disks, as I no longer have > > the controller/drive (or the mainframe it came from.) > > Any ideas? > > Is there a brand name? (Somebody else might HAVE one) > > Otherwise,the drive is almost certainly not a problem, and you can > probably use an "industry standard" drive, such as a TM100-2. > > But you will need a controller that can handle hard sectored diskettes. > > Depending on the specs of the format (which you haven't tod us), it MIGHT > be readable with Northstar hardware, or it MIGHT be readable with Vector > Graphic hardware, etc. > > OR, you could build an appropriate controller for a PC. > > -- > Fred Cisin cisin(a)xenosoft.com > XenoSoft http://www.xenosoft.com > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:48:56 -0700 > From: Kevin Handy <kth(a)srv.net> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: ID this DEC card? GS-2 5015484-01-k1-p1 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Eric Smith wrote: > > >Joe wrote: > > > > > >>It has no card edge connectors like a > >>Q-bus or Unibus card but does have a metal plate with connectors > >>along one side. The plate has a BNC, DB-9M, DB-15M, DB-25M, RJ > >>(something) and an eight pin Molex connecotr on it. The board has a > >>NEC 7220 graphics IC, an AMD 8085 CPU and several LSICs with DEC > >>copywrites on it. > >> > >> > > > >Sounds like a VT220 or VT240 logic board. > > > > > > > Possibly a GIGI with all those connectors on it. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Subject: Re: ebay bid on dec rack > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:28:33 -0800 (PST) > From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > > On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, Jay West wrote: > > > FYI - I'm likely going to be bidding on the DEC "3 high" rack on Ebay that > > > includes an RA81. The RA81 is missing the HDA, and I have no need for it, > > > I just want the rack as it's the right height to mate to my 11/44X. If > > > anyone wants the RA81-HDA, let me know before it gets skipped. > > > > :-) Of my 12 RA81s, 10 or so have Post-it notes saying "Bad HDA". I'm > > starting to see a pattern here... > > If you look at the seller on eBay's auctions, you'll notice that he's pulled > all the 'high demand' parts from everything that he's selling. In fact I > don't think he's selling anything that's actually usable, unless like Jay > you need a specific part of what he's selling. > > Zane > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > Subject: Re: Recovering data from disks... > From: Jim Donoghue <jim(a)smithy.com> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Date: 26 Mar 2003 16:31:34 -0500 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 16:00, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: > > > > Is there a brand name? (Somebody else might HAVE one) > > > > The disks are 'CP4 CPU Microcode' disks for a Wang Laboratories' VS-90 > minicomputer system. Their only purpose is to load microcode or > diagnostic routines into the control memory on the CPU board. > > > Otherwise,the drive is almost certainly not a problem, and you can > > probably use an "industry standard" drive, such as a TM100-2. > > > > But you will need a controller that can handle hard sectored diskettes. > > > > Depending on the specs of the format (which you haven't tod us), it MIGHT > > be readable with Northstar hardware, or it MIGHT be readable with Vector > > Graphic hardware, etc. > > I don't have, and cannot obtain, the specs of the format. What I do have > is a disassembly of the Z80 code from the EPROM. From what I have read > scanning old newsgroup postings, etc. today, I might be out of luck. > There's a dealer of old Wang equipment in Ohio that has one of these, > but they want a small fortune for it. I may have to abandon the idea of > reading these disks until I can locate hardware from somewhere else, or > the Wang dealer finally decides it's not worth keeping and scraps it > out. > > -- > Jim Donoghue > Smithy Co. > (734) 913-6700 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:04:19 -0800 (PST) > From: "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com> > Subject: Re: Recovering data from disks... > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > >From: "Jim Donoghue" <jim(a)smithy.com> > > > >I have several 5 1/4" *hard-sectored* floppy disks. These are in some > >proprietary format, they are read by a controller that consists of a Z80 > >CPU, an EPROM, and some TTL chips. All this thing does is read the > >entire contents of the disk, outputting the data in parallel format over > >a ribbon cable. This is used to load CPU microcode into static RAMS. > >I want to be able to read the data from the disks, as I no longer have > >the controller/drive (or the mainframe it came from.) > >Any ideas? > >-- > >Jim Donoghue > >Smithy Co. > >(734) 913-6700 > > > > Hi > Get something like an EZKIT-lite from Analog Devices. > These are proto typing boards for their DSP chips. These > processors are fast enough to bit bang the data from > floppies. You use one of the digital input lines. > Once you determine the encoding method, you can look > for the directory area or what ever. > Dwight > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:26:20 -0800 (PST) > From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: ID this DEC card? GS-2 5015484-01-k1-p1 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > --- Kevin Handy <kth(a)srv.net> wrote: > > Eric Smith wrote: > > > > >Joe wrote: > > > > > > > > >>It has no card edge connectors... has a BNC, DB-9M, DB-15M, DB-25M, RJ > > >>(something) and an eight pin Molex connecotr on it. The board has a > > >>NEC 7220 graphics IC, an AMD 8085 CPU and several LSICs with DEC > > >>copywrites on it. > > >> > > >Sounds like a VT220 or VT240 logic board. > > > > > Possibly a GIGI with all those connectors on it. > > That's a good guess, especially with the 8085 on there (ISTR that's > the CPU in a GIGI). > > -ethan > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > From: "Geoff Roberts" <geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:15:05 +1030 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Allain" <allain(a)panix.com> > To: "CCTalk" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:13 AM > Subject: Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga > > > > Loading system software > > > ?4C DEVINACT, DUA0 > > That looks more like a hardware issue. > "Device Inactive" > It's not the message I usually see if I try and boot off a non-system disk. > > Geoff in Oz > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:26:32 -0500 (EST) > From: Patrick Finnegan <pat(a)purdueriots.com> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: ID this DEC card? GS-2 5015484-01-k1-p1 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > --- Kevin Handy <kth(a)srv.net> wrote: > > > Eric Smith wrote: > > > > > > >Joe wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>It has no card edge connectors... has a BNC, DB-9M, DB-15M, DB-25M, RJ > > > >>(something) and an eight pin Molex connecotr on it. The board has a > > > >>NEC 7220 graphics IC, an AMD 8085 CPU and several LSICs with DEC > > > >>copywrites on it. > > > >> > > > >Sounds like a VT220 or VT240 logic board. > > > > > > > Possibly a GIGI with all those connectors on it. > > > > That's a good guess, especially with the 8085 on there (ISTR that's > > the CPU in a GIGI). > > But it's not. A Gigi has an 8-pin molex, two DB-25M's and 4 BNC's on the > back (I just took a look at mine to verify). > > Pat > -- > Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS > Information Technology at Purdue > Research Computing and Storage > http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu > > --__--__-- > > Message: 15 > From: "John Allain" <allain(a)panix.com> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 22:10:32 -0500 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > > Loading system software > > ?4C DEVINACT, DUA0 > > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_1622.html > > "Please check existing discussions of the "serpentine" nature of the > Q-bus module configuration available here in Ask The Wizard such as > topic (1149), ... > This could well be a problem with the Q-bus configuration, with the > disk controller (probably an RQDX3 series controller), with the disk > connection,..." > > John A. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 16 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:49:43 +1100 > From: Huw Davies <Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au> > Subject: Re: RA-81 reliability (was Re: ebay bid on dec rack) > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > At 06:54 AM 26/03/2003 -0800, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > >There was a notorious problem with a formula change with an adhesive. > >I don't recall the HDA rev letter, but drives from the wrong batch > >would fail in record time. Big scramble for DEC to plug the gap. > > I can certainly confirm that there were significant problems with glue > "migrating" onto the platters in RA81s. At the site I was working at in > about 1982 we ordered two RA81s and suitable controller to augment our > storage - we had an RM80 as system disk and two RM03s for user data - these > were the good old days! These were some of the first RA81s delivered in > Australia - I like to say that we had the first two RA81s in Australia > along with about 10 of the next few shipments as well. It got to the stage > where my Field Service engineer and I could replace an RA81 HDA in about 15 > minutes. > > >I think I've seen one drive die due to electronic failure, ever. > > The most entertaining RA81 failure we had (glue induced failures excepted) > was when the drive select switches on drive 1 failed. The controller > detected duplicate IDs and spun _both_ RA81s down. Took a long while to > work out why every time the second drive was powered up, the first would > spin down.... > > Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au > Melbourne | "If soccer was meant to be played in the > Australia | air, the sky would be painted green" > > --__--__-- > > Message: 17 > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:48:35 -0800 > From: Doug Coward <mranalog(a)attbi.com> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Kleinstrechenautomat D4e > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Hans wrote: > > Now, does anyone of you know about a similar machine > > (especialy about the desktop part) produced in series > > before 1963? > > All of the following are electronic desktop > personal computers used by engineers and mass > produced before 1963. > > I have copies of magazine ads for these computers: > Electronic Associates Inc. Model TR-48 April 1962 > Electronic Associates Inc. Model TR-10 June 1960 > Donner Scientific Co. Model 3500 April 1960 > Donner Scientific Co. Model 3400 February 1960 > > Of course there is also the Heath EC-1 introduced > in 1960 and the Heath ES-400 introduced in 1956. > --Doug > ========================================= > Doug Coward > @ home in Poulsbo, WA > > Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center > http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog > ========================================= > > --__--__-- > > Message: 18 > From: "Hills, Paul" <Paul.Hills(a)siemens.co.uk> > To: "'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org'" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Identification of an old machine > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:59:56 -0000 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > This is going to be rather difficult I think. In 1977 when I first went to > high school, we had a visiting computer science teacher (the school didn't > own it's own computer). He used to come in with a PET mostly, but one day he > couldn't bring the PET so came in with this old machine which was roughly > cubic, each side about 2 foot. On the front it had a wiring panel where you > had to plug in patch leads, and a rotary dial like on old telephones which > was used to dial the numbers in. I don't remember how it displayed its > results. > > Being a first year student and never faced with a computer before I had no > idea what to do with it, and so don't remember much about it. However, now > I'm intrigued - what was that beast? Does anyone have any ideas? > > cheers, > paul > > --__--__-- > > Message: 19 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:56:14 +0100 > From: Hans B Pufal <hansp(a)aconit.org> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Identification of an old machine > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Hills, Paul wrote: > > This is going to be rather difficult I think. In 1977 when I first went to > > high school, we had a visiting computer science teacher (the school didn't > > own it's own computer). He used to come in with a PET mostly, but one day he > > couldn't bring the PET so came in with this old machine which was roughly > > cubic, each side about 2 foot. On the front it had a wiring panel where you > > had to plug in patch leads, and a rotary dial like on old telephones which > > was used to dial the numbers in. I don't remember how it displayed its > > results. > > Interesting, I presume from your email address that this was in the UK. > The first thing that came to mind was the Wireless World computer, this > was a construction project published in the Aug thru Dec 1967 issues of > that magazine. (on my long list of things I to scan someday). > > The 'computer' had an 8 bit word and a 3 word memory and an accumulator. > It could perform various arithemetic operations. The actual published > articles do not show a telephone dial but ISTR some mention of > extensions based on telephone equipment : dials and strowger switches. > > The size and propotions seem to fit, the published design had switches > and lights on the front panel and no plug-board. > > Do you recollect if the machine was homebrewed or manufactured? > > -- hbp > > --__--__-- > > Message: 20 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:12:00 +1000 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > From: "Dr. Ido" <drido(a)optushome.com.au> > Subject: Re: ID this DEC card? GS-2 5015484-01-k1-p1 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > At 02:48 PM 3/26/03 -0700, you wrote: > >Eric Smith wrote: > > > >>Joe wrote: > >> > >> > >>>It has no card edge connectors like a > >>>Q-bus or Unibus card but does have a metal plate with connectors > >>>along one side. The plate has a BNC, DB-9M, DB-15M, DB-25M, RJ > >>>(something) and an eight pin Molex connecotr on it. The board has a > >>>NEC 7220 graphics IC, an AMD 8085 CPU and several LSICs with DEC > >>>copywrites on it. > >>> > >>> > >> > >>Sounds like a VT220 or VT240 logic board. > >> > >> > >> > >Possibly a GIGI with all those connectors on it. > > > > My GIGI has 4 BNC connectors and no RJ connectors. I'd say he has a VT240 > board. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 21 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:26:25 -0500 > From: David Woyciesjes <dwoyciesjes(a)comcast.net> > Subject: Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > John Allain wrote: > > > > > Loading system software > > > ?4C DEVINACT, DUA0 > > > > Do you know that it had software? > > It's easy to erase a whole drive when a company is not sure > > which files are sensitive or not. > > I don't know from my limited knowledge how to distinguish > > from a good+empty drive and a bad drive. > > Perhaps it requires additional diagnostics SW. > > > > John A. > > Yeah, it did have software. They were testing keyboard and mice on it, > so it must have a minimum GUI on there. And the people at CTI aren't the > type to go deleting files, especially since at the time, they were under > the impression that they would have to return the VAX... > > -- > ---Dave Woyciesjes > ---ICQ# 905818 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 22 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 05:37:02 -0800 (PST) > From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Kleinstrechenautomat D4e > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Doug Coward wrote: > > > Hans wrote: > > > Now, does anyone of you know about a similar machine > > > (especialy about the desktop part) produced in series > > > before 1963? > > > > All of the following are electronic desktop > > personal computers used by engineers and mass > > produced before 1963. > > > > I have copies of magazine ads for these computers: > > Electronic Associates Inc. Model TR-48 April 1962 > > Electronic Associates Inc. Model TR-10 June 1960 > > Donner Scientific Co. Model 3500 April 1960 > > Donner Scientific Co. Model 3400 February 1960 > > > > Of course there is also the Heath EC-1 introduced > > in 1960 and the Heath ES-400 introduced in 1956. > > These are all analog computers, of course. Hans was looking for digital > computers. > > Berkeley's Simon could be considered (1951). > > http://www.widomaker.com/~cswiger/simon/ > > -- > > Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * > > --__--__-- > > Message: 23 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 05:38:40 -0800 (PST) > From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Identification of an old machine > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Hans B Pufal wrote: > > > Interesting, I presume from your email address that this was in the UK. > > The first thing that came to mind was the Wireless World computer, this > > was a construction project published in the Aug thru Dec 1967 issues of > > that magazine. (on my long list of things I to scan someday). > > Ooh. I'd love to get a copy of that. > > -- > > Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * > > --__--__-- > > Message: 24 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:46:48 -0500 > From: David Woyciesjes <dwoyciesjes(a)comcast.net> > Subject: Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > John Allain wrote: > > > > > Loading system software > > > ?4C DEVINACT, DUA0 > > > > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_1622.html > > > > "Please check existing discussions of the "serpentine" nature of the > > Q-bus module configuration available here in Ask The Wizard such as > > topic (1149), ... > > This could well be a problem with the Q-bus configuration, with the > > disk controller (probably an RQDX3 series controller), with the disk > > connection,..." > > > > John A. > > Well, after looking at that article, and topic 1149, it seems that I've > created a small problem by moving only two of the boards over and not > the rest, when I removed the M7602 QVSS video board. > > -- > ---Dave Woyciesjes > ---ICQ# 905818 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 25 > From: "John Allain" <allain(a)panix.com> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Identification of an old machine > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:48:22 -0500 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > > wiring panel where you had to plug in patch leads, and a rotary dial > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > Here's a MiniVac 601 with its prominent spinning dial > http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~hl/c.minivac601.html > > Here's the nearly cubic Heathkit EC-1 > http://www.thocp.net/hardware/pictures/heathkit_analogue.jpg > > These two were about the most common, if not one of these, > your professor's may have been a rare one. Of course they're > all rara now. > > John A. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 26 > From: "John Allain" <allain(a)panix.com> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: ebay bid on dec rack > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:04:35 -0500 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > > FYI - I'm likely going to be bidding on the DEC "3 high" rack on > > Ebay that includes an RA81. The RA81 is missing the HDA, and > > I have no need for it, I just want the rack as it's the right height to > > mate to my 11/44X. If anyone wants the RA81-HDA, let me know > > before it gets skipped. > > Will comply. > Similarly, if anybody wants to subdivide the 8 x RA92 rack > with me that's fine. I only want 2 or 4 max, but let me know. > > John A. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 27 > From: "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de> > Organization: SIEMENS AG > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:05:28 +0100 > Subject: Re: Kleinstrechenautomat D4e > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > > > Now, does anyone of you know about a similar machine > > > (especialy about the desktop part) produced in series > > > before 1963? > > > All of the following are electronic desktop > > personal computers used by engineers and mass > > produced before 1963. > > > I have copies of magazine ads for these computers: > > Electronic Associates Inc. Model TR-48 April 1962 > > Electronic Associates Inc. Model TR-10 June 1960 > > Donner Scientific Co. Model 3500 April 1960 > > Donner Scientific Co. Model 3400 February 1960 > > > Of course there is also the Heath EC-1 introduced > > in 1960 and the Heath ES-400 introduced in 1956. > > ES-400 ? Sounds somewhat familar :) > > Are you shure we are talking about the same? > > My question was about a digital free programmable > desktop computer - all in onw, including I/O and > so on. > > For the Analog part, East Germany had some realy > impressive machines. We had a real nice one from > the mid 60s at last years VCFe > > So, the hunt is still open. > > Gruss > H. > > -- > VCF Europa 4.0 am 03./04. Mai 2003 in Muenchen > http://www.vcfe.org/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 28 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:18:56 -0500 > From: David Woyciesjes <dwoyciesjes(a)comcast.net> > Subject: Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > > John Allain wrote: > > > > > > > Loading system software > > > > ?4C DEVINACT, DUA0 > > > > > > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_1622.html > > > > > > "Please check existing discussions of the "serpentine" nature of the > > > Q-bus module configuration available here in Ask The Wizard such as > > > topic (1149), ... > > > This could well be a problem with the Q-bus configuration, with the > > > disk controller (probably an RQDX3 series controller), with the disk > > > connection,..." > > > > > > John A. > > > > Well, after looking at that article, and topic 1149, it seems that I've > > created a small problem by moving only two of the boards over and not > > the rest, when I removed the M7602 QVSS video board. > > > > -- > > Yep. That appears to be the answer. It's booting now VAX/VMS V5.1 Major > id = 1 Minor id = 0. > Now it's asking for the date and time, but for the life of me I can't > seem to input a valid answer! Help!?! > > -- > ---Dave Woyciesjes > ---ICQ# 905818 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 29 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:03:05 -0500 > From: David Woyciesjes <dwoyciesjes(a)comcast.net> > Subject: Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > > Now it's asking for the date and time, but for the life of me I > > can't seem to input a valid answer! Help!?! > > > > -- > > Well, finally got that figured out. Now I have a call in to the former > oweners, to find a username/password. > Does anybody know, when Digital sent out (loaner) machines to > comapnaies for testing products, was there a default username/password > that they usually set? > > -- > ---Dave Woyciesjes > ---ICQ# 905818 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 30 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:26:33 -0800 (PST) > From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > --- David Woyciesjes <dwoyciesjes(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > ...Now I have a call in to the former oweners, to find a > > username/password. > > There are instructions in VMS FAQs (among other places) for how to > get into a machine when you have free access to the console. There > is some variation, but there are some cookbook instructions on how > to do it. > > > Does anybody know, when Digital sent out (loaner) machines to > > comapnaies for testing products, was there a default username/password > > that they usually set? > > The canonical defaults are SYSTEM/MANAGER and FIELD/SERVICE. Some > older machines might have SYSTEST/UETP. Any of these should have enough > privs to let you twiddle the SYSUAF file (change passwords, add accounts, > etc.) > > More recent versions of VMS will not allow you to take a default > SYSTEM password, but you can change it back after the install is > done. > > -ethan > > --__--__-- > > Message: 31 > From: "Terry Freeman" <terryf(a)intersurf.com> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Microvax 3400 on eBay > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:55:53 -0600 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > In the for what it's worth column: > > MicroVax 3400 on ebay > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1484&item=3409069554 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 32 > From: "Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini(a)iee.org> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE: Industrial VAX 630 booting saga > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:29:13 -0000 > Organization: me@home > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > > Does anybody know, when Digital sent out (loaner) > > machines to comapnaies for testing products, was there a > > default username/password that they usually set? > > Maybe in the V5.1 timeframe, but I think even by then SYSTEM/MANAGER > and FIELD/FIELD had long gone! > > The OpenVMS FAQ seems to be here: > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/faq/vmsfaq_contents.html > > Your specific question is here: > > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/faq/vmsfaq_contents.html > > In your case, > >>> B/1 > should get you into SYSGEN. > > Then > SYSGEN> SET STARTUP_P1 "MIN" > SYSGEN> SET UAFALT 1 > SYSGEN> SET WRITES 0 > SYSGEN> CONTINUE > should get you a quick boot into the alternate UAF. > As long as there is *no* alternate UAF (and many systems > don't have one) and no SYSUAF logical set during a minimum > boot (who knows ...) you should then be able to > log in as SYSTEM using any passwords *on the system console only*. > > Then you do: > $ SET DEF SYS$SYSTEM > $ SET PROC/PRIV=ALL > $ DEASS /SYS/EXE SYSUAF ! I forget if you need /EXE .. try both > if necessary > $ MC AUTHORIZE > UAF> MODIFY SYSTEM/NOPWDEXP/PASS=feefiefoefum > UAF> EXIT > and now reboot, this time letting it come up > normally. > > If there is an alternate UAF file, or SYSUAF gets set even on a > minimal boot, then you need to follow the procedure as specified > in the FAQ (but it's a tad trickier IMHO). > > Antonio > > -- > > --------------- > Antonio Carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org > > --__--__-- > > Message: 33 > From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> > To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Fw: AdamComputer.com domains > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:16:32 -0600 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Question.... > > Was there a vintage computer called an "Adam"? I *THINK* I recall hearing > something about that name. If so, then the below email MAY be of interest to > someone. If there wasn't such a computer, then this email is SPAM and I > apologize for posting it here. > > Jay West > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dusty Fohs" <dusty(a)rumcakerecipe.com> > To: <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:01 AM > Subject: AdamComputer.com domains > > > Hello, > > > > We purchased the domain names AdamComputer.com & AdamComputers.com for a > project that we are no longer able to develop. > > > > Domains for sale are: > > > > www.AdamComputer.com > > www.AdamComputers.com > > > > I wanted to see if you have an interest or know of someone who could make > use of these domains. We are just looking to recoup what we paid for these > domains, as they no longer fall into our business plans. > > > > Let me know if you are interested or if you have any questions. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dusty > > dusty(a)rumcakerecipe.com > > --__--__-- > > Message: 34 > From: Bryan Pope <bpope(a)wordstock.com> > Subject: Re: Fw: AdamComputer.com domains > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:27:07 -0500 (est) > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > And thusly Jay West spake: > > > > Question.... > > > > Was there a vintage computer called an "Adam"? I *THINK* I recall hearing > > something about that name. If so, then the below email MAY be of interest to > > someone. If there wasn't such a computer, then this email is SPAM and I > > apologize for posting it here. > > The Coleco Adam? > > Cheers, > > Bryan > > --__--__-- > > Message: 35 > Subject: RE: AdamComputer.com domains > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:44:23 -0000 > From: "Adrian Vickers" <adrian.vickers(a)blue-edged.com> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > > From: Jay West [mailto:jwest@classiccmp.org] > > > > Question.... > > > > Was there a vintage computer called an "Adam"? I *THINK* I > > recall hearing > > Indeed there was: The Coleco Adam. A Google search throws up a number of > links & pix. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 36 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:54:53 -0500 > From: knightstalkerbob(a)netscape.net (Bob Mason) > To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: Fw: AdamComputer.com domains > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Coleco Adam, two digital cassette drives, think it had a Z80, could run CP/M. Was also an add-on to the Coleco game console at the time, to turn it into an Adam as well. Don't remember time frame, mid eighties? > > "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> wrote: > > >Question.... > > > >Was there a vintage computer called an "Adam"? I *THINK* I recall hearing > >something about that name. If so, then the below email MAY be of interest to > >someone. If there wasn't such a computer, then this email is SPAM and I > >apologize for posting it here. > > > >Jay West > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Dusty Fohs" <dusty(a)rumcakerecipe.com> > >To: <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> > >Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:01 AM > >Subject: AdamComputer.com domains > > > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> We purchased the domain names AdamComputer.com & AdamComputers.com for a > >project that we are no longer able to develop. > >> > >> Domains for sale are: > >> > >> www.AdamComputer.com > >> www.AdamComputers.com > >> > >> I wanted to see if you have an interest or know of someone who could make > >use of these domains. We are just looking to recoup what we paid for these > >domains, as they no longer fall into our business plans. > >> > >> Let me know if you are interested or if you have any questions. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Dusty > >> dusty(a)rumcakerecipe.com > > > > -- > Bob Mason > > 2x Amiga 500's, GVP A530 (40mhz 68030/68882, 8meg Fast, SCSI), 1.3/3.1, 2meg Chip, full ECS chipset, EZ135, 1084S, big harddrives, 2.2xCD > Gateway Performance 500 Piece 'o Crap, 'ME, 384meg, 20Gig & 40Gig, flatbed. > Heathkit H-89A, 64K RAM, hard and soft-sectored floppies, SigmaSoft and Systems 256K RAM Drive/Print Spooler/Graphics board HDOS 2 & CP/M 2.2.03/2.2.04 > > __________________________________________________________________ > Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! > http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 > > Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! > http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promos=380455 > > End of cctalk Digest

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The very first personal computers - How many are left?

by kapteynr＠cboe.com

I still have the Altair 8800 that my Dad bought for me when I was in high school. It was not very long before we realized how "special" it's role in history was. So, I suspect that the survival rate of these was relatively high. (Most of the lost ones were probably accidentally burned up by incompetent tinkerers :-) Of course the number of early 8800 models produced was not that high, and a good number of those were upgraded with "B" front panels and power supplies. (those original tiny switches are a real pain) -Rob -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Vintage Computer Festival Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:29 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: The very first personal computers - How many are left? On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, steve wrote: > here are my guesses.... > > --- The Design Fort DTP <design.fort(a)ns.sympatico.ca> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > One thing I was always interested in - and the > > visitors in my Computer > > Museum often want to know - is how many of the very > > first personal computers > > are still in existence. By first PCs I mean the > > following machines: > > Kenbak 1 > 10-20 There were only 40 made (interestingly in Brentwood, California, just 30 minutes north of where I live in Livermore). Here's a brief article: http://www.pretext.com/mar98/shorts/short3.htm I can stretch my imagination and believe that 10 may still be around, but certainly not 20. > > Altair 8800 > 500 (a,b,bt) Move it over one decimal place to the left. From what I know, about 50,000 Altair's of all models were produced. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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T 08 (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

Someone in France has a Thomson T08 to sell. The Google translation of the message is as follows: "I have one T O8 and wishes to demolish me, causes new computer at the house... If you are interested, to quote..." I think you get the general idea ;) Please reply to the original sender. Reply-to: triosalles(a)infonie.fr ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 15:43:19 -0000 From: TRIOSALLES <triosalles(a)infonie.fr> To: vcf(a)vintage.org Subject: T 08 Je poss?de un T O8 et souhaite m'en d?faire, cause nouvel ordinateur ? la maison...Si vous ?tes int?ress?, faire offre... Merci de votre attention, IS -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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For sale/give away IMPORTANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by joe_web＠worldonline.fr

hello, i send this message to all, because a have a little problem, all the message who i send to you private, comes always back... so, i want to know the price to shipping the swith to france. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric J. Korpela" <korpela(a)ssl.berkeley.edu> To: "[Jo_l Weber]" <joe_web(a)worldonline.fr> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 5:41 PM Subject: Re: For sale/give away > [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > hello, what do you want for the 4 port // auto data switch? the dell > > latitude? > > thanks > > You can have the parallel switch for the cost of shipping it. The dead > notebook was already snapped up. Sorry. > > Let me know where you want the data switch shipped, and I'll get it out on > friday. > > Eric

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Pacific Page PE Docs

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Thought I'd ask if anyone wants these before tossing them out: 1 copy PacificPage PE (Postscript Emulation cart) manuals 1 set of Win 3.x font disks for PE. 3 copies Pacific 4 Memory Installation guides. Free for shipping. Total shipping weight, 2 pounds. Media Mail rate in US: $2.00. Bob

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Lead on a VAX 4000/300 for sale

by dwoyciesjes＠comcast.net

I have a lead on a VAX 4000/300, two pedestals, that will be hitting e-Bay soon. It's in New Haven, CT, and you'd have to pick it up fairly quickly. Storage space is tight, where it's sitting now. I'm not the seller, just kknow about it. Send me a message directly, for more info. -- ---Dave Woyciesjes ---ICQ# 905818

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Fwd: Unknown "Model 25" Available

by jss＠subatomix.com

Argh. This guy ticks me off: - No subject. - Does not adequately identify to whom he is speaking. - Does not adequately identify the machine. - Does not adequately identify the location. - No capitalization. - Obvious typing errors not corrected. - Your/You're confusion Normally, this kind of post gets rejected. This guy, however, has something available for the cost of shipping. I don't want a machine to get destroyed because of me being a post quality nazi. If you're looking for a "Model 25", here's your chance. You have been warned. ----- Forwarded message from Wollitz Garden <wollitz(a)pikarde.com> ----- Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:04:59 -0400 From: "Wollitz Garden" <wollitz(a)pikarde.com> To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> i saw your post on the web. i got on of those Model 25 with one floppy here. i dunno if it has a hardrive. i'm here in jax area. if you wish to p[ick it up your welcome. no charge for machine, only if you want it shipped. would propblay be a fortune for a heavy machine like that ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jeffrey Sharp

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21-17322-01 Chip location.

by dectech＠usa.net

Good afternoon Mr Frank Arnold, Apologies for the intrusion. A colleague told me you may have some PDP T11 chips (Part No 21-17311-01) that I am looking for. I need 5 pieces here in the UK with me by this Thursday. Please advise if you have these and at what price, Best Regards, Paul S. Turner.

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OT: "Nortair" on TV

by melamy＠earthlink.net

If they used Norton then they were a few years too early to warrant giving him any credit. He was a PC guy that released the Norton Utilities in 1982-1983 timeframe - after the blinkly light period of the late 70s (unless someone can tell me what credit Peter should deserve for the non-pc era). best regards, Steve Thatcher >--- Original Message --- >From: Jeffrey Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com> >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Date: 4/8/03 3:32:39 AM > On Monday, April 7, 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: >> On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Andrew Strouse wrote: >> > Hi all. I was watching Malcom in the Middle last night and they had a >> > classic computer storyline. The were cleaning out their garage and >> > found a "Nortair" computer. It looked to me like an altair front panel >> > with the base but no cover and no cards inside. >> >> I guess that name is supposed to be a catenation of "Northstar" and >> "Altair". > >You give these people too much credit. I'd say "Norton" and "Altair". > >-- >Jeffrey Sharp

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Camintonn CMV-5000 Memory Board for PDP-11

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

I have been trying to find out if there is a Camintonn memory board called a CMV-5000 which I understand is supposed to be similar to a Camintonn CMV-254. Both are 1 MegaByte memory on a dual Qbus card, but the CMV-5000 is also supposed to have Battery Backup option (??) and error correction. I would appreciate any help that can be provided in finding out is the above information is correct. I also wish to buy some of the CMV-5000. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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mimic 8080 ?

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

Does anyone remember the mimic 8080? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=3411844327…

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Interfacing HP82905A Printer to HP85

by rhahm＠nycap.rr.com

Hello, I am having trouble getting an HP 82905A Option 002 dot matrix printer to work with my HP85. This printer appears to have two interfaces on the back. One appears to be a serial or parallel interface and the other is an HP-IB. There are no dip switch srttings on the back for setting the HP-IB address. Under a small cover on top I noticed a 6 position dip switch set with switches 1 and 2 "on" and 3 - 6 "off". I tried printer is 700, printer is 703, etc. I then set all the switches to on and then to off trying Printer is 700 without success. Unfortunately I do not have a manual for the printer. The printer on line light is on and I have paper in the machine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks once again, RH

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OT: "Nortair" on TV

by kittstr＠access-4-free.com

Hi all. I was watching Malcom in the Middle last night and they had a classic computer storyline. The were cleaning out their garage and found a "Nortair" computer. It looked to me like an altair front panel with the base but no cover and no cards inside. Someone offered them $1300 for it but they wouldn't let one son keep the money so he broke it in half. Anyway, I just wondered if anyone else saw this. Andrew Strouse ( kittstr(a)access-4-free.com )

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The Garden of Eden

by kevan＠heydon.org

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IBM 5161

by melamy＠earthlink.net

the "blue" card sounds more like an arcnet card rather than ethernet. Ethernet would have a BNC and a AUI 15 pin DB type connector on the back. The arcnet card was a coaxial cable type connection. The blue really rings a bell asn well as the processor. I did a bit of work in the early day with arcnet before ethernet became the standard. best regards, Steve Thatcher >--- Original Message --- >From: "Witchy" <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> >To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>, <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Date: 4/7/03 11:23:55 AM > > -----Original Message----- >> From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On >> Behalf Of John Honniball >> Sent: 04 April 2003 20:28 >> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >> Subject: Re: IBM 5161 >> >> >> Witchy wrote: >> > A surprise consignment arrived for me this morning - an IBM >> 5150 in not bad >> > condition complete with keyboard/monitor and a 5161 expansion box, spare >> > expansion card and 2 extender cables..... >> >> Just had a look at the images on the Binary Dinosaurs site, and I see >> that you have a blue, full-length card with an 8X305 on it. This is >> a bit-slice CPU chip, so I'm curious as to what this card is. Does >> anyone recognise it? > >It's a *something* Decision card, complete with a BNC port......I really >should've noted it's name as it struck me as odd, as well as the size of the >CPU; still, the machine is easily accessible downstairs so I can dig it out >tomorrow and photograph it properly. Could it have been ethernet related? >There's KA9Q software on the HD in the expansion too, which is why I think >that. > >More info tomorrow :) > >cheers > >-- >adrian/witchy >www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum >www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans

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sco unix

by rachael＠rachael.dyndns.org

Hi I found a SCO software diskette package box, but I`m not sure all the disks are there. "SCO unix system v/386 Rel: 2.0.0d volume: 1" "SCO CGI n286 rel. 1.1.0e volume: 1-3" "SCO Xsight rel 2.3.0j volume:1-2" "Open Desktop rel 1.1.0 p21-p37", suspect that I lack the first 0-20 disks for this. "Open Desktop update F uf1-uf2" anyone knows how many disks there is supposed to be ? regards Jacob Dahl Pind -- CBM, Amiga,Vintage hardware collector Email: rachael()rachael.dyndns.org url: http://rachael.dyndns.org

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new computers... Finally!

by ninajane＠ccn.go-free.co.uk

Hey (i dont know ur name) I have an Amiga 500+ with an A520 adaptor. When i tuned it to my T.V. it just stays dark blue, but says there's a signal. The animated hand thing doesn't even appear! Help! And I don't have the poster about the connections!!!

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DF32 emulator

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

On Mon, 07 Apr 2003 12:42:27 -0500, you wrote: >... shows the use of DMCA and DCEA to clear a disk, rather than DEAL. > > >Not exactly what you were looking for, but perhaps someone else has the Crap. Oh well, I was planning a Revision B anyway, to take care of the bugs I already discovered (such as DFSE skipping on error like an RF08 instead of skip-on-no-error). I guess I'll have to figure out how to clear the LS191 counters I used for registers. Maybe there's a 4 bit counter with a clear input I can use. The simplest way would be to force 0's into the load inputs to the counters for EMA and EA and strobe the clock line with that IOT, but that would require a couple of chips and there is just no more room (and keep the board "cheap", standard 160x100mm Eurocard size and two-layer). I could put a lot more logic on a 4-layer board but they cost a LOT more. All those 12-bit busses take up a lot of PCB real estate! Meanwhile I think it'll work with a non-expanded (4K) machine like my 8/L ;) Back to the drawing board! -Charles

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Anyone need any IBM XT parts?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I picked up an IBM XT today to get the FH drive for one of the list members. Does anyone need any of the other parts? It has IBM CGA card, IBM HD controller, IBM floppy drive controller card with port on the back, IBM 3.5" floppy drive with black front and blue button, fits in a 5 1/4" HH opening, also serial/parallel port card, 256/640K Motherboard. I don't have a CGA monitor so I installed another video card and I've been using the machine all afternoon. The PSU is bad, but everything else seems to work. Also have a Seagate st238R hard drive. It's not reading cluster #1 so it's not bootable but otherwise it's working fine. LL formatting should (may?) cure the problem. No math coproccessor. Best offer plus shipping on any or all parts. Joe

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3.5" floppy drive in IBM XT?

by melamy＠earthlink.net

the hard drive is definitely a replacement. The orginal XT harddrive was a full height and I believe it was a Seagate ST412 (10 meg). As for the floppy controller, it may have a bios extension on board in rom that contains the driver for it unless there was a XT bios upgrade available for it, but I don't recall that or IBM creating a 3.5" board for the XT best regards, Steve Thatcher >--- Original Message --- >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >Date: 4/7/03 10:12:47 AM > I picked up an old IBM XT today and it has a 3.5" floppy drive in it (and it works!) Anybody ever heard of this? The drive has it's own controller card and both it and the drive appear to be IBM parts. )I haven't pulled everything apart to be sure.) FWIW the computer also has a FH 5 1/4" floppy drive and a HH 5 1/4" 10 Mb hard drive with a Seagate logo on the front of it. Anybody know if this is an original XT hard drive or a replacement drive? It's been so long since I've seen an original XT with the 10 Mb drive that I don't remember much about it. > > Joe

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Need docs for Microsoft Premium Softcard //e

by vcf＠siconic.com

Sigh. I am hoping someone has the docs to the Microsoft Premium Softcard //e. This is a nice Z80 card for the Apple //e that allows one to run CP/M. Specifically, I need to know how MS assigned the serial card. I am trying to use PIP to copy a file out to the serial port. Barring that, I need to know if the utility program called APDOS that comes on the master system disk can copy files *from* CP/M *to* Apple DOS. As far as I can tell, it seems you can only copy from Apple DOS to CP/M. Lastly, if anyone with knowledge of utilities that allowed one to transfer CP/M files to Apple DOS can inform me of such, I would really appreciate it. I have no idea where my manual for this went :( -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Need help with ASR33 tape reader - major frustration!

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

I can't get my ASR33's tape reader to stop missing occasional characters! I have lubed it and tried setting it according to the procedures in the manual but that is very frustrating since many of the adjustments interact. Using a test tape punched on the same TTY with 72 printable characters per line (incrementing from space through Z and punctuation, then LF + CR at end of each line), if I carefully adjust the detent position I can achieve one (and occasionally 3 or 4 in a row) "skipped" characters about every 10-20 lines which is roughly once every 1000 characters on average. I can load short tapes like the BIN loader and then the second short section of 4K FOCAL successfully, but the long first section of FOCAL (which takes over 10 mins. to read in) invariably gives a checksum error. In other words, not good enough. The missing characters are not being read into the data stream at all, nor are the previous or next characters duplicated. I wrote a program to just read the characters into the AC and halt if a NUL (000) is read. All 0's are indeed being read on the missed character and I think this is because the contact pins are all held down if there is a "misfeed" where the tape moves just enough to put the pins between rows of holes, but not far enough to skip to the next. Anyone with experience "tuning" this beast, please give me a hint! thanks Charles

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anybody want a Dauphin LapPro 286 User's Manual?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found today in a scrap today. I figured someone would want it. Joe

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FH IBM 5 1/4" floppy drives

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Who was asking me for a couple of these a few weeks ago? Reply by direct E-mail. Joe

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H89 CP/M hard-secored boot diskette

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Patrick Rigney" <patrick(a)evocative.com> > >> Hi All >> Well, I dug out my H89. I turned it on, POP, turned it >> off. Smoke comes from the one side. >> Well, it looked like one of the 2.2 uf tantalums decided > >Oh yeah... that's fully the behavior of the "popcorn" machine I referred to >earlier. > >> Years ago, I'd place a second drive in the machine by >> installing two half height drives. The boot drive it >> behind the other drive so I can't see what the difficulty >> is with the other disk. > >I just bought a handful of half-height drives and was about to launch into >this myself. Did you feel a need to upgrade anything in the power supply >before doing this, or is it up to running both motors simultaneously if/when >that occurs? > >Patrick > Hi Patrick I used it this way for a number of years without any problems. I do have the drives setup so that the select turns the motors off when not being accessed. I believe this is the same as the original. This is a jumper select on most drives. I did have to file a little material from the bezel where the drives fit into the front. Other than that it was reasonable. You can't see this with the drive installed. You do need to make sure that all of the shielding is put back in. It is close to the yoke of the tube and needs to be protected >from the stray fields( writes will fail ). I don't recall if I had to drill any more mount holes but I'll know more as I debug my disk spinning problem. Of course, you need a new cable ( easily made ) and an extra power connector. Make sure that only one drive has the terminator( this is often missed by many ). The controller was originally setup to run 3 drives, one inside and two outside. Dual drives are handy. Dwight

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Victor Keyboard Identification

by adrian.vickers＠blue-edged.com

Damn! I too would be interested in it :( If anyone else in the UK has a spare Sirius 1 kicking about (working or dead, although the former is preferred, obviously), please get in touch. I'm willing to pay for transport costs, plus beer tokens as appropriate. Cheers, Ade. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hills, Paul [mailto:Paul.Hills@siemens.co.uk] > Sent: 03 April 2003 10:26 am > To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org' > Subject: RE: Victor Keyboard Identification > > > John, > > Whereabouts are you in the UK? I would be interested in that > Sirius 1, and > could collect it if you're anywhere near Manchester. Would > you be interested > in a spare Epson HX20 as a swap? > > paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Honniball [mailto:coredump@gifford.co.uk] > Sent: 02 April 2003 20:02 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Victor Keyboard Identification > > > Thomas Martin wrote: > > You can also see them labeled as Sirius machines from > > time to time. > > Yes, I'd have called it a Sirius keyboard! Mine are darker in colour, > though; dark grey instead of beige. I have a spare Sirius I, > if anyone > in the UK would like one -- as designed by Chuck Peddle. > > -- > John Honniball > coredump(a)gifford.co.uk

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breathing life into old chips

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> FWIW, Thomson-built ICCn chassis are _notorious_ for dry joints! thanks all, that does seem to have cured it - I resoldered all the components around that IC, and it's run for the whole afternoon now without a failure so I'm pretty confident it's back up and running. cheers Jules For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer

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Power supply question

by bpope＠wordstock.com

Hello all, Has anyone heard of the Enermax power supplys? The model number from the (now non-working) is EG150S-V. The special thing about this supply is its size: 4" W X 5" D X 2.5" H Thanks for any help!, Bryan

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H89 CP/M hard-secored boot diskette

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi All Well, I dug out my H89. I turned it on, POP, turned it off. Smoke comes from the one side. Well, it looked like one of the 2.2 uf tantalums decided to give up. I snipped it with my diagonals and brought it up again. No smoke this time and all the voltages looked good. As the screen came back to life, the H: prompt showed. I next put one of my bootable disk in and typed B(CR). Success! It is alive. I tried a number of disk and some had problems. I tracked it down to the disk not rotating. I'm not sure at what point they fail to rotate. I don't know if the motor isn't turning, the belt is slipping or the clamp on the disk is slipping. It seems that many of the disk envelopes are tight. This should be a warning. Don't stack disk on their sides. Years ago, I'd place a second drive in the machine by installing two half height drives. The boot drive it behind the other drive so I can't see what the difficulty is with the other disk. It got late so I'll fiddle some more, later. I was looking at the HDOS stuff I have and I also found a LISP for the H89 as well. I'll work some more on making a image to serial to transfer this stuff to a PC. Dwight

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Commodore 64 stuff wanted

by lengyel.ba＠mellon.com

Good Day I have the following available for sale: Commodore 64 Keyboard (with power supply) Commodore 64 (1541-II) Floppy Disk Drive (with power supply and connection to keyboard) NO hookup to TV (can be purchased for less than 10 bucks at Radio Shack) ***GAMES INCLUDED IN PACKAGE*** 1988 Edition President Elect (with manual) 2-Commodore 1541 Test/Demo Diskettes Advanced Dungeons & Dragons "Heroes Of The Lance" (with box and manual) 1988 Advanced Dungeons & Dragons "War Of The Lance" (with box and manual) 1989 Blue Powder Grey Smoke Garde' (with manual) 1986 Broadsides (1983) California Games # 1, # 2, # 3 Commodore 64 C Geos (1986) Commodore 64 C Geos Applications (1986) Confilict In Vietnam (with manual) 1986 Faceoff (1989) Frankenstein (Side 1)---Jack The Ripper (Side 2)---Dracula (Side 3)---Wolfman (Side 4)1987 Geoploitique 1990 (1983) GFL Championship Football (1986) Halls Of Montezuma 1987 Hat Trick (1987) Master Type (1984) MECC Expeditions (1986) Nam (with manual) 1985 Napoleon In Russia (with box and manual) 1987 Patton vs. Rommel (1986) Power Play Hockey (USA vs. USSR) 1988 Road War 2000 (with box and manual) 1986 Russia (1987) Sim City "The Original Simulator" 1989 Sons Of Liberty (1988) Sportime "Omni-Play" Basketball (with manual) 1989 Street Sports Basketball (1987) Strike Fleet (1987) The President Is Missing (2 Disks) 1988 Triple Pack (Beach Head I, II and Raid Over Moscow) 1986 War In The South Pacific (with manual) 1987 Wasteland (2 Disks) 1986 14 Miscellaneous Disks (unlabeled) can erase and use as spare blanks ***Added Bonus*** Computes First Book Of Commodore 64 (basic programs for 19 games) Please let me know if you have ANY questions. Thanks for your time and consideration.

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Any info on the Hughes HM-4118 computer?

by ddavids2＠midsouth.rr.com

I Too worked on the HM4118 in Gruenstadt ,Germany in 1973.I was stationed at Sembach, AB. Were you trained by Malbury and Mr. Short at Keesler?Have no Idea where you might find one. Eddie Davidson

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gorilla banana printer

by ic349＠bellsouth.net

Still need one? mike

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DEC Rack (GRRRRRRRRRRRRR)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I was all excited to pick up the 3 bay DEC rack I got off ebay. It looked like just the right rack to mate with my 11/44X rack. After unpalleting it and rolling it next to the 11/44X rack, much to my chagrin, I find it is the right hight, but the wrong depth. My kingdom for the right rack *sigh* This rack had an RA81 in it if that's any clue... I am going from foggy memory but I believe the 11/44X rack is 30 inches deep, and this rack is about 36 inches deep. Anyone want to trade a 30 inch deep corporate cab for a 36'er? Yes, I know, I'm being anal. Jay West

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Available: Two DEFTA-FA FDDI cards

by dan＠ekoan.com

Hello, I've got two DEC DEFTA-FA FDDIcontroller/TURBOchannel (Rev A02) cards that were pulled from scrapped DEC 3000 machines. I have no idea whether they work or not, since I never saw them running. Photos upon request. Best offer plus postage. Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html

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RXV21 question

by ssj152＠charter.net

OK, this may be obvious to the experts here, but I haven't a clue: can a DEC RXV21 RX01 / RX02 floppy controller be used with non-DEC floppy drives, using the standard DEC RT11 driver? By non-DEC I mean ordinary SSSD or SSDD Shugart, Siemens, or Qume 8" floppy drives. I recently saw a project where someone uses a Linux PC to act as a RX02 floppy for a PDP-11 system. That got me thinking: if I can use the RXV21 with foreign floppy drives, I already have a pair of 8" floppy drives that I could use. This would be VERY handy and save me some $$$. OK experts, what is the verdict? Thanks in advance! Stuart Johnson

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IF/65 Developement System II

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I'm looking for a users manual for a IF/65 Developement System II by Infotron. It is an ICE box for 6502's. Any information on this would be great. It is designed to be connected to a terminal and a modem. It looks like it can also be run stand-alone. Dwight

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HP9885 8" floppy unit

by Innfogra＠aol.com

My 1988 HP catalog indicates that it is the 9127A 5 1/4" floppy that works with the 9000/3XX series of computers. For 3 1/2" drives it is the 9122D/S drive unit that is recommended. There is no mention of an 8" floppy disk drive for use with the 9000/3XX series of computers I don't think the older 9885 floppy disk drive would work unless you wanted to program your own GPIO interface using the 98622A GPIO interface card which should fit in your 3XX. The SCSI/HS HP-IB interface is used as a disk drive interface but not for the 9885 floppys. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Apollo Domain, Aegis, etc

by tothwolf＠concentric.net

I just acquired what seems to be a fairly complete set of tapes for an Apollo system running Domain/OS. I was planning to make images of the tapes, and wondered if anyone might be looking for any of this software? Here is a condensed list of the tapes: AEGIS 9.6.1, tapes 1 and 2 AEGIS 9.7, tapes 1 and 2 TCP/IP 3.0 DOMAIN/IX 9.5 NFS 1.0 NFS 2.0 DPCC 3.1 CC 4.8 CC 4.89 CC 6.6 M/6.5 MPX FTN 9.38 FTN 9.66 FTN 10.6 M/10.5 MPX Interleaf 4.0.66, tapes 1 and 2 Some of the (DC600?) tapes have bad drive belts, but that should be pretty simple to correct. -Toth

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