- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by nospam＠dadaboom.com

I'm wading through piles of junk in my garage and came across a DEC BC60L-03 cable. I'm not sure what it is for. The connector on one end is similar to a parallel printer port connector, but a few pins smaller. The other end has a 27 pin high density D shell (I think it's 27 pins, my eyes get a little fuzzy looking at it.) Available for free to a good home. All I ask is that you pay shipping which is probably about $3.00. If you live in the SF Bay area, you can stop by and pick it up for free. Bill

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Ireland/UK VT510 source?

by dittman＠dittman.net

Does anyone know of a supplier in Ireland/UK that would have VT510 (or VT520) terminals available? I need one for a coworker in Cork. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net

22 years, 11 months

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VLB video card, VLB IO card

by cb＠mythtech.net

I have a VLB VGA card and a VLB IO card (ID, FDC, Parallel, Serial, Game). Both are on their way to the trash unless claimed by someone. Actually, come to think of it, if someone wants, they can have the whole 486 logic board they are on as well. It has a 50 MHz 486/DX2 chip on it. That is also on the way to the trash. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 11 months

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trouble interfacing an HP86B to an HP7040 plotter with a serial interface

by rhahm＠nycap.rr.com

Hi, I am having trouble interfacing an HP86B to an HP7040 plotter with a serial interface. I have two HP serial interfaces: standard with male DB25 connector and 0pt.01 with female connector. The plotter has a male DB25 connector. I have connected the standard with with a gender changer and the opt. 01 directly without success. I typed PLOTTER IS 10 and (the baud rate on the plotter is set at 9600)I get an error message. This is the first time I have tried a serial connection and unfortunately I don't have any documentation for the HP serial interface. Do I need a null modem for the opt. 01 serial interface? What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Bob

22 years, 11 months

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Apple I programs

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Hello Sellam, > However, Ismail warned the replica would not appeal to everyone. > There's a very limited library of software for the machine. > Most Apple I software was written by hobbyists and never published > commercially. And what programs there are will have to be typed in > by hand -- in Basic or assembly code. So perhaps you could put out a call to Apple I hobbyists that had written programs, and ask that they make them public domain, and host a library of them available for download on your web site? And/or if you'd like to generate a bit of revenue, perhaps you could get permission to sell CD's of the library, something like Walnut Creek did with shareware, for those that don't want to spend the time downloading, and would rather just purchase a CD full of them? Best Regards

22 years, 11 months

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SVGA with DE9

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I have a older Vox-On monitor that is configured like that. I also seem >to remember some older NEC models that needed a HD15 to DE9 cable. I >still have the cable, so I can look at it when I get home. As far as the >Sabre label, American Airlines used to private label a lot of AST >computers and monitors as Sabre for distribution to travel agencies for >connection to the Sabre reservation network. There were a lot of P100 >Sabre systems floating around DFW for a while. No sooner did I post the email than I found one DE9 to HD15 cable. It had fallen behind the cabinet that one of the monitors was sitting on top of. So now I have at least one cable and can use that to make a 2nd if need be. I think you might be right on the Sabre label. It does look like the American Airlines Sabre system logo (although it has been a long time since I have seen that logo so I might be wrong). I'm not sure how I wound up with two monitors from their systems however. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 11 months

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SVGA with DE9

by cb＠mythtech.net

I have two rather old monitors marked as "Sabre" on the front. They have a DE9 female socket on the back, but also carry a label claiming the monitors to be SVGA. I've never seen SVGA use DE9 connectors, I've always seen them with the high densitry 15 pin connectors (as commmonly seen on current PC monitors). Anyone know the pinout for an adaptor? Anyone have a particular desire for these monitors? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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info on Two Technologies device (hand held terminal?)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I picked this up the other day. I THINK it's a hand held terminal. It was made by Two Technologies Inc of Horsham, Pa and it's model number is TT1-R2-2. It's a blue box slightly larger than a pack of cigarettes and has a LCD screen and a membrane type keyboard. The keyboard seems to have all the usually alphabetic, numeric and puctuation keys plys F1 to F5, Shift, Control, Space, Back Space and Enter. it has a curly cord on the bottom. The curly cord has RJ-11 six pin connector on each end. It does not have any batteries or power connection so it must get it's power from what ever it's plugged into. I searched the net but didn't find anything about Two Industries or this device. Is anyone familar with it? Joe

22 years, 11 months

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cctalk digest, Vol 1 #750 - 35 msgs

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Your experience is not uncommon among customers of Darek's ("Idiots" as he likes to term them). Sorry to hear you also had a problem with him. You are in great company though. LOL!!! Regards, Al Hartman (Macintosh Emulation List Host) http://www.topica.com/lists/MacEmuList > From: <rs(a)therica.net> > > Dennis- did anyone ever help you out? I'm far from > Atari these days, brain-dust at this point, but I > was trying to remember who made the Happy, and > your post was the first thing shown in the Google > search. I might have a copy of the manual > somewhere, buried in this house, if you still need > help. I decided a few nights ago to see what was > new in the emulator world, having briefly attempted > to convert over to that in the mid-90's, and had > such a hostile and arrogant reply from Darek > Mihocka, what a ******. It brought back memories > of other unpleasant individuals in this same genre > of the old Atari world from years past. > > best, > Rob

22 years, 11 months

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IBM PC/XT 3.5" floppy drivers

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>> I have an old IBM 3.5" 720KB floppy, meant to be installed in an XT. The >> kit came with a 5.25" floppy that contained drivers, and a program called >> "35INSTAL.COM". >If you upgrade to DOS 3.20 or newer, then you do NOT need that disk. >If your XT has IBM's BIOS, then you need to add DRIVER.SYS to your >CONFIG.SYS file. >If you are using a non-IBM BIOS, then you can use DRIVPARM instead >(in MS-DOS, and present but not documented in PC-DOS) >NOTE: DRIVPARM is incompatible with IBM's BIOS. >If you want to use DOS <3.20, then you want that disk. >NOTE: SOME versions of MS-DOS 2.11 support 720K. Fred, That did it! And a big "duh" on my part .... The PC in question is an original IBM PC/XT 5160, and it has a 1/2 height 360KB drive, and a hard drive (10MB full-height 5.25" w/ XEBEC Controller). There was a hole above the 360KB drive dying to have a drive put in :-), so I added the 720KB disk (an original IBM part). The hard drive boots IBM DOS 3.30, so I gave DRIVER.SYS a try -- It worked first shot! Of course, I could have looked in my IBM DOS 3.30 manual, but that would have been to easy :-) Thanks again! Rich B.

22 years, 11 months

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pinging Jeff Kaneko

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Jeff, Your mail box is full and you e-mail is bouncing. Joe

22 years, 11 months

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PCjr goes for over $150

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/7/2003 5:12:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, spectre(a)floodgap.com writes: > I got about half that about 4 years ago from a complete pcjr package deal > with some reference books. > guess I better email the winner and offer him a pcjr box that I found on the > side of the road just last year <?> and a jr monitor still in the box, heh. Hey, my unit has some extra RAM and the parallel port expansion. Wonder what he'd pay for those? ;-) Never mind, I actually *like* the PCjr. It's an intriguing orphan. it's not bad. Mostly bought by IBMers I'm sure. I've got lots of jr stuff. Now that I'm moving my entire collection to the house, I hope to find all the parts to connect up the jr hard drive to see if it actually works.

22 years, 11 months

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id this Performance Technology Inc card?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found two of these this morning. I think they're some kind of bridge board but I'm not sure. The cards are about 4 x 7" and have three LSI on them along with various EPROMS and SSI ICs. The three main ICs are a NCR/5380 SCSI interface, a WDC 2793 FD controller and a Hitachi HD63B03 CPU. Also has a 4 pin power connector like that used on a disk drive. Three are two other coonectrors, one is a 34 pin IDC header and the other is a 50 pin IDC header. There are also three socketed resistor packs (terminating resistors?). Anybody know any more about these? Joe

22 years, 11 months

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YADA10YR (Yet Another Discussion About the 10 Year Rule)

by cheri-post＠web.de

> > Anyway, I'm one of the younger members of this list, but many of my > > computers are older than I am by a significant margin. > > Last time I demonstrated one of my minis to a university computer club, I > suddently realised that the machine was older than the students :-) > > -tony I think that one shouldn't forget how difficult it is, to get "old and interesting" machines. To get a PDP-8 is certainly not easy if you just started collecting and if don't live in the states were it's a bit easier to get old computers. I belong to the young members, too and I'm proud of my PDP11/23 I got on Ebay. Young guys will certainly start to collect 10 or 15-year-old machines. Computers of the 60s and 70s are cool, but try to find them in the year 2003 for less money... Besides, nice machines were built in the 80s, I wouldn't draw a line at 1980... Pierre ______________________________________________________________________________ 38xTestsieger - WEB.DE FreeMail - Deutschlands beste E-Mail Design-Mails - einfach schoenere E-Mails - http://f.web.de/?mc=021129

22 years, 11 months

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PCjr goes for over $150

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Here's a complete unit that sold for $159+ on eBay, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2750719864

22 years, 11 months

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Annual cleanup / mostly DECstuff

by oliv555＠arrl.net

Have a bunch of items needing new homes, most are freebies. Contact me off-list thanks, -nick o -- free, local pickup only, NO shipping! -MicroVAX III+ in a BA23 pedestal cab (11/73 badge): w/m7625(ka655),m7622(ms650),m7555,UC07,rx33, no HD -AlphaStation 200 4/233, 196mb, DECunix -Mac 7300/180, 4.5Gb hd, keyboard+mouse -HP Network Analyzer J2219 FDDI (486 color laptop) -misc DEC drives: tzk12 tk50 (2)rz24 (2)rz26 (2)rz28 -- other freebies, U-pay shipping: (2) KDA50 m7164, m7165, w/manual (1) m9401 (1) m9405 w/cables (2) m9047 rf31/rf72 user guide RF series user guide(covers 31,35,36,72,73,74) VMS instal'n guide for vax6200 VMS instal'n guide for MVII, VSII several MicroVMS pocket refs/user guides RT11 v5 master index (3) la36 user guides -- For Sale: (local only, no shipping) $25 Vaxstation 4000/vlc +manual +VT320/lk401(dim) $25 Vaxstation 4000/60 +manual/puck/SZ16c-da/vt420/lk401 $40 IBM rs6000/7043 (43p/140), 200mhz, 128mb, 2.1gb, keyboard+mouse $40 Digital multia vx51b-f2, 128mb, 300mhz intel/overdrive $50 Digital Alpha 366XL, 256mb kbd+mouse

22 years, 11 months

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Happy manual?

by curt＠atarimuseum.com

The Happy Enhancement was made by Happy Computing who also did TurboDOS... I have several images of the rom's and I may have a manual if anyone needs it, let me know. Curt > Dennis- did anyone ever help you out? I'm far from Atari these days, > brain-dust at this point, but I was trying to remember who made the Happy, and > your post was the first thing shown in the Google search. I might have a copy > of the manual somewhere, buried in this house, if you still need help. I > decided a few nights ago to see what was new in the emulator world, having > briefly attempted to convert over to that in the mid-90's, and had such a > hostile and arrogant reply from Darek Mihocka, what a ******. It brought back > memories of other unpleasant individuals in this same genre of the old Atari > world from years past. > > best, > Rob > > > > Happy Enhancement > murphy, dennis b (BMC Eng) cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Thu Mar 27 12:55:04 2003 > > a.. Previous message: Computer Pioneer Adam Osborne Dies > b.. Next message: AdamComputer.com domains > c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Hello all, > > Just broke my old Atari out of jail (closet). The setup is an Atari 800 > with 2-810 disk drives, one of them with the Happy Enhancement. I can't for > the life of me fine the manual for the Happy drive. Can anyone help. > > Thanks, > Dennis > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > a.. Previous message: Computer Pioneer Adam Osborne Dies > b.. Next message: AdamComputer.com domains > c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]

22 years, 11 months

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PDP-8/L Maintenence Manual Vol II

by sebastian.brueckner＠epost.de

Hello everyone! Since some people requested it, I uploaded the complete manual today. I hope it will be of use for some of you: http://cpp.seriousassault.de/pdp8/ Tell me if something is unreadable or if you have any suggestion for improvement! Regards, Sebastian PS: www.pdp8.net seems to have the same manual available for a few days now. I did not yet have the time to check it out. Is it exactly the same?

22 years, 11 months

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Display writer software

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Spotted this on E-bay. At leat one of the disk has Display Writer software on it. These are 8" disks for the original Dispaly Writer NOT the later DW software for the PC. <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2750895654&category=4193> Joe

22 years, 11 months

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IIgs SCSI card Rom

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Anybody on the list have the apple II scsi card rev "c" rom that they can make a copy off? I am getting a scsi card for my IIgs but it only has revision "b" rom. I dont have the "c" code or a burner. Willing to pay for the ROM chip and shipping to Ohio. Thanks

22 years, 11 months

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Turing books looking for a home

by philip＠awale.qc.ca

A Guide to the PC-Turing Interpreter, J.N.P. Hume (don't have the disk), 1986 The Turing Language Report, Richard C. Holt and James R. Cordy, 1983 (2 copies) Neither has an ISBN. Anyone want? -Philip

22 years, 11 months

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UCSD P-Code and Pick for IBM PC/XT/AT

by SPEDRAJA＠ono.com

> Remitente: jim stephens <jwstephens_2000(a)yahoo.com> Hello ! > Ibm had a distribution of the Pcode and UCSD pascal > that came in the same beige / pink boxes that Dos was > in. I have that set. Well... Having in mind the difficult of locate any kind of operative UCSD system in the Internet and any other place... Perhaps one security copy of the USCD disks could be realized to allow some believers to see the light :-) It's only a suggestion, of course :-)) Cheers Sergio

22 years, 11 months

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Data I/O 29A manuals

by cia＠raytheon.com

Jim, Thanks for putting the 29A .pdf files online. We really needed them for our programmer, to reprogram some old parts in a vital system that's still working out there in the field. Lance

22 years, 11 months

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tektronix 4205

by jtacoustic＠cstone.net

Greetings- this is a message for Tim Rutherford; i found your post to i'm not even sure what via yahoo, you were looking for a Tektronix 4205. i've got one, including keyboard and mouse, but i have not even powered it up yet. are these things worth anything? thanks. jt

22 years, 11 months

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audio files posted - 1985 computer pioneer interviews

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

I've posted the interviews I had with several personal computer "pioneers" and a lecture by Roger Amidon at the 1985 National Computer Conference at www.sideslip.net/vintage_computing/1985_interviews (note that URL has underscores - vintage_computing and 1985_interviews. CDs are available for those who don't want to endure a 144M download. Current CD orders will go out this weekend. Please consider all material released to the public domain under the GNU copyleft agreement. Jack Rubin Wilmette, Illinois USA

22 years, 11 months

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Happy manual?

by rs＠therica.net

Dennis- did anyone ever help you out? I'm far from Atari these days, brain-dust at this point, but I was trying to remember who made the Happy, and your post was the first thing shown in the Google search. I might have a copy of the manual somewhere, buried in this house, if you still need help. I decided a few nights ago to see what was new in the emulator world, having briefly attempted to convert over to that in the mid-90's, and had such a hostile and arrogant reply from Darek Mihocka, what a ******. It brought back memories of other unpleasant individuals in this same genre of the old Atari world from years past. best, Rob Happy Enhancement murphy, dennis b (BMC Eng) cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Thu Mar 27 12:55:04 2003 a.. Previous message: Computer Pioneer Adam Osborne Dies b.. Next message: AdamComputer.com domains c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Hello all, Just broke my old Atari out of jail (closet). The setup is an Atari 800 with 2-810 disk drives, one of them with the Happy Enhancement. I can't for the life of me fine the manual for the Happy drive. Can anyone help. Thanks, Dennis ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- a.. Previous message: Computer Pioneer Adam Osborne Dies b.. Next message: AdamComputer.com domains c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]

22 years, 11 months

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Old manual got wet

by jwstephens_2000＠yahoo.com

Most recovery techniques rely on reducing the manuals moisture to a certain level and maintaining it there and the the best way I heard was to take to a facility that can freeze dry and vacumn dry in parallel. The contents of the Los Angeles public library was nearly destroyed but for using old aerospace facilities around the area to put large quantities of books into old vacumn test chambers with liquid nitrogen cooling, and some mods to the vacumn systems to tolerate the extraction of the moisture. Most computer manuals are printed on paper that shoulc be recoverable, since it basically is high rag based paper, w/o any applied coatings. The sort of papers used by magazines use either plactic coatings, or a very fine clay coating with treatment over paper to get the "slick" look, and those were nearly impossible to recover. (unless new techniques were developed since I last read, anyway). I don't know if you can do this with any resources you have, or know of, but the vacumn / freeze dry method is the best I have heard of. Of course be sure to pack it to guard against mildew and rot, or you won't have anything worth restoring either. Jim

22 years, 11 months

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SGI Modular IRIS?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody know anything about these? I spotted one in a scrap yard. It's a white box about the size on and end table. I searched the net for info on it but didn't find much and none of the hits talked about the hardware or what software it ran. I opened the front and it had a 5 1/4" hard drive, 5 1/4" tape drive and a 3 1/2" hard drive all mounted in removable sleds. I grabbed the one in the 3 1/2" sled since it looks like it will fit my Indigo. But I'm wondering if the whole thing is rare and should be rescued. Joe

22 years, 11 months

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Vectrex Games at Thrift

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

The other day I found 10 in the box games with manuals and overlays at the local Goodwill. :-) Could not find the console or any other parts of it. :-( I got the following; Scramble, Star Trek, Ripoff, Webwars, Berzerk, Spinball, Pole Position, Solar Quest,Armor Attack, and Heads Up Action Soccer.

22 years, 11 months

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Percom LFD-400B Mini-Disk Controller for SWTPC?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I think my SWTPC is going to be my next restoration project. Mine has a Percom LFD-400B Mini-Disk Controller. Does anyone here have any information about it? It's not listed on Michael Holley's website. I also need info about a Boaz 64k (32k installed) memory board if anyone has any but it's not as crutial as the FD cntroller. Joe

22 years, 11 months

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info? AMI 6800/6809 system that ran Flex

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody know anyting about an OLD (76ish) AMI system with a 6800 or 6809 CPU that ran Flex? I've been offered one and I'd like to know more about it. The chassis and such are home made but the cards are factory made. I have some pictures that I can provide if anyone wants to see them. Joe

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info? AMI 6800/6809 system that ran Flex

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

BTW I meant to add that the seller's father bought the boards directly >from AMI as part of a bulk purchase through a "computer club" that he used to be a member of. He lived in Palo Alta and worked at SRI (Stanford Research Institute) at the time. I wonder if he was a member of the original Home Brew Computer club and bought the boards through them? He was in the right area at the right time. I'm trying to get more details. BTW does anybody know if there's a list posted anywhere of the early members of the Home Brew Computer club? Joe >At 10:34 AM 9/6/03 -0400, Roger wrote: >>Rumor has it that Joe may have mentioned these words: >>>Anybody know anyting about an OLD (76ish) AMI system with a 6800 or 6809 >>>CPU that ran Flex? I've been offered one and I'd like to know more about >>>it. The chassis and such are home made but the cards are factory made. I >>>have some pictures that I can provide if anyone wants to see them. >>> >>> Joe >> >>If it ran FLEX, it's *probably* 6809-based -- I dunno if there was ever a >>FLEX for 6800; but there was even a version of FLEX for the Tandy CoCo. > > I don't know if it ran Flex when it had a 6800 CPU but it started out with a 6800 and was later upgraded to a 6809. I have a couple of 8" disks >from it and they have Flex on them. > >> >>Other than the requisite: "If you don't want it... don't forget me" >>statement, I'd say 'Snag it' -> > > That's already in the works! :-) > > >it's prolly at least as rare as an Apple 1; >>mind you, prolly not worth as much (yet) but IMHO, more interesting (as the >>6809 *is* my favorite processor... ;-) >> >>Oh, and I wouldn't mind seeing the pix... > > OK I'll send them to you directly. If there's enough interest I'll post them on the web. > > Joe >> >>HTH, >>Roger "Merch" Merchberger >> >>-- >>Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers >>zmerch(a)30below.com >> >>What do you do when Life gives you lemons, >>and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????

22 years, 11 months

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IBM PC/XT 3.5" floppy drivers

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I have an old IBM 3.5" 720KB floppy, meant to be installed in an XT. The kit came with a 5.25" floppy that contained drivers, and a program called "35INSTAL.COM". The floppy is totally unreadable, so I cannot complete the installation on my XT. Does anyone have this diskette who could loan it to me, or make me a copy? I can get the drive's part number, if necessary... Thanks! Rich B.

22 years, 11 months

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OT: Australian computer "collectors" :)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

who stole two mainframe computers from the Australian Customs at the Sydney Airport. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3083228.stm

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Higher Count of C64 Sold

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

In the 2002 issue of Guinness World records it states that almost 30 million C64 computers were sold between 1983 and 1993.

22 years, 11 months

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Turing books looking for a home

by liste＠artware.qc.ca

A Guide to the PC-Turing Interpreter, J.N.P. Hume (don't have the disk), 1986 The Turing Language Report, Richard C. Holt and James R. Cordy, 1983 (2 copies) Neither has an ISBN. Anyone want? -Philip

22 years, 11 months

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Dec or Digital Networking

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Has anyone actually tried to scale "on-topic" into something we can wrap our arms around? Once upon a time, I was told that any platform carrying a version of Windows was off topic. What of my DEC SL486DX with DOS 5.0, WIndows 3.1 and Office 4.0? The DEC manufacturer's tag clearly shows a manufacture date of 1991 (so did some of the files I cleaned out of it...). A DEC recovery service tag also clearly shows a complete overhaul in 1993. Is it on-topic by year of manufacture, but off-topic because of its onboard applications? What applies? What doesn't? Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, Texas, USA Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048 Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> -----Original Message----- From: Mail List [mailto:mail.list@analog-and-digital-solutions.com] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:15 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Dec or Digital Networking Hello Don, > Or, why not simply items that apply/relate to equipment at least 10 years old? That too. In fact, upon further reflection, I thought that there might still be items that were released 10+ years ago, that might now be considered classic, but might still be being manufactured new, and still sold, even by the original equipment manufacturer. No specific example comes to mind, but there must be some. So, I thought a refinement to be, "items which were originally released 10 or more years ago, regardless of whether or not still being made and sold", and as you have suggested, "items that apply/relate to equipment at least 10 years old" might be the best definition to apply as to whether or not an item is, or is not, on topic. Best Regards [...] Pared for bandwidth... -- Ed

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FW: Need Heath/Zenith H/Z-90 schematics (repost)

by patrick＠evocative.com

This is a repost; I never saw my original message make it through to the list. Apologies if this is a duplicate and I just missed it... I've been working from a set of H-88 schematics for a long, long time, extrapolating and tracing differences between the '-88 and the '-90. I was wondering if anyone either had a spare copy of the schematics they'd be willing to sell to me, or make a brief loan of them so I can run a copy of them on a large-format duplicator, or...? Thanks in advance! --Patrick

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CARDIAC

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I believe that John Rible owns the publication rights to these. He would have it in a computer readable format. You might contact him at: jrible(a)sandpipers.com later Dwight >From: vance(a)neurotica.com > >On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Hans B Pufal wrote: > >> >Anyone know where I can get (or even borrow) one? I don't need an >> >original. A replica will do. >> >> A couple of years ago I bought two original CARDIACS from teh official >> Bell Labs distributer : >> >> COMSPACE CORP >> 117 Engineers Drive >> Hicksville NY 11801 >> (516) 942 8191 > >Original as in non-replica? Cool! > >Peace... Sridhar

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BOGEN model CHS-60A Amplifier Installation Manual

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I understand that you have an installation manual for the BOGEN model >CHS-60A >Amplifier. I would like to know if you could share it with me? Sorry to say, I no longer have that manual, I mailed it to someone that asked for it a number of weeks ago. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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DEC OS

by rogersda＠cox.net

Eric, It may not be as bad as it sounds. Just like the IA64 has ended up being "finished" by a lot of Alpha Engineers (they got the last 150 from HP about a month ago), it appears that next major version of HP/UX is going to end up being a lot more "Tru64" than HP/UX. HP has made commitments to retain the distinguishing features of Digital Unix, e.g. clustering and AdvFS, and they don't plan on offering two parallel versions, one with and the other without. It will be easier to include the "look and feel" of HP/UX into Tru64 - and call it HP/UX - than to make HP/UX do *real* clustering. It's sorta like buying a Bentley ... it's still mainly Rolls-Royce under the skins. Dale the DECdude > I really prefer Tru64. I'm really not happy that HP is going with the > inferior HP/UX instead.

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ADMIN Re: YADA10YR

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> The reason Sellam never got a response to his query was because I still have >> not caught up on all my emails from being out a few days (funeral). I am > >IIRC, he was grousing about the moderation and management of ANOTHER list. Correct, I was complaining about the lists provided by LowEndMac.com >I have yet to hear any valid complaints about what you do. >Your common sense approach has worked well for us. I've got no complains about the way this list is run. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Flamingo Dec3000 Model 500

by TRUTHANL＠columbus.rr.com

I am trying to add a user acct to my Alpha System running Dec Unix 4.08. I am logged in as root. When I use the GUI the error message I get when trying to open AcctManager is that bin/x11/dxacct requires system PRIVILEGED access. The dialog box has three choices 1. RUN as ROOT; 2. RUN as ROOT, 3.Cancel : Either run as root times out with no more dialog for create, or what ever.... When I pull up a terminal window and do "who" I see a "root console", a "root TTY", and a third "root :0" user. When I try running DXacct from the Bash 2.02# command line I get a message stating "Another user" has the Passwd and Group files locked - Try again later. What is wrong with my environment? Why three root instances? Can someone suggest A better forum to get such an answer? I am a Digest subscriber, contact me offlist at truthanl at columbus rr com. Sincerely Larry Truthan

22 years, 11 months

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YADA10YR (Yet Another Discussion About the 10 Year Rule)

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I agree that the list runs fairly well without a "list nazi" stomping >around policing everyone's posts. I'm on several Mac lists on LEM. I >posted a question on a list and was slapped down by the list police. It >concerned a Daystar Genesis with a G4 upgrade card running OS-X. It >seems that it wasn't welcome on the Powermac list becase Apple didn't >make it. It wasn't welcome on OldMacMP list because it wasn't running >it's original MP processor card and it wasn't welcome on the G-List >becasue it wasn't a factory G-4. The only place it was considered on >topic was on the Unsupported-X list. The LEM lists, while can be helpful, are VERY VERY bad examples of a "nice" list. They are however great examples of how to run a list who's goal is to piss off every subscriber inside of 6 months. The nazis they have as list nannies are unreal, and the list mom may be the worst of the bunch. I think even Sellam would find their level of topic policing to be too much ;-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Bell 103 modem standards

by toresbe＠ifi.uio.no

Hell! I just picked up a modem for a classmate (I finance the restoration with tech support - *sigh*), and on the label on the outside, with the supported protocols, and along with the V.24 V.90 yadda yadda there was at the end, Bell 103, Bell 212A...! (I may have the numbers slightly off, but I'm sure about the 103 part). ...Is this a common protocol? In a brochure that came with the DECUS newsletter, about Telecommunications, it mentioned these protocols, and described them as Low-Speed (defined as less than 2000 baud, I believe). This was also mentioned as built-in options for the TTY 33's, and I seem to recall them being mentioned several other places. Is this me being wrong, has the protocol been constantly upgraded speedwise, is the protocol "Just something that stuck around", and therefore direly needing support from every new modem? Or is this just a case of truly, *truly* excellent backwards compat? I mean, the brochure was all in all dated 1967. -Tore (: Lame smilies and RaNdOm CaPiTaLiSaTiOn, oh, and 5(R33P733 57Y13 writing makes you live longer, d00d! OmG! :) :O!!! :)!!!

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Need VGA cable for Ampro SBC

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone have a spare video cable for the Ampro SBCs with built-in video ports? Or a schematic? It uses a 2 x 11 retangular socket. See <http://www.ampro.com/assets/applets/lb-486i.pdf> for a picture. Joe

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DEC OS

by jkunz＠unixag-kl.fh-kl.de

On 2003.09.03 23:52 Eric Dittman wrote: > Didn't Linux run on Alpha in 64-bit mode before NetBSD? http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/alpha/ NetBSD/alpha is a true 64-bit system that fully implements the LP64 architecture, using 64-bit pointers and 64-bit long integers (standard integers are still 32 bits) in a linear four terabyte (4TB) address space. NetBSD/alpha was the first free OS to run on the Alpha and supports by far the largest number of alpha system types of any free OS. -- tsch??, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

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YADA10YR (Yet Another Discussion About the 10 Year Rule)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

What TeoZ says has happened/is happening to the Obsolete Computer Helpline, which now, IMHO, has lost most of its usefulness. The classiccmp list seems fairly good at selfpolicing, however. It just sometimes gets off into too much YADA YADA YADA ;) Bob -----Original Message----- From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@siconic.com] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:15 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: YADA10YR (Yet Another Discussion About the 10 Year Rule) On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, TeoZ wrote: > the reason I joined the list. As newer and younger people join the list I > would assume the focus would change to newer equipment. If you want to keep ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wrong. If the focus of this list ever changes to supporting old PCs then it has effectively died. Old computers don't die. They just get older. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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DEC OS

by rogersda＠cox.net

> > > The *BEST* OS to run on an Alpha is OpenVMS, and you can run MySQL under > > > OpenVMS, but I think it takes some effort. > > > > Err, now THAT is what I call flamebait. > > Not really. OpenVMS is the best OS for Alphas, since OpenVMS is the best overall > OS. :-) Took the words right out of my mouth. ;) Dale, the DECdude

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Digital DSM Disribution tape

by luc＠e2t.be

Someone asked a few weeks ago for a copy of the DSM distribution tape.(9track 1600bpi) I found it back this afternoon (by accident in a search for some other old stuff) To make it clear - this is the native version of DSM (Digital Standard Mumps) version 3.3 and it runs only on PDP11 not on vax or other PDP's Min. machine on UNIBUS = 11/40 on QBUS = 11/23 If someone can tell me how to make it available I have my ears wide open; or if someone is willing to do that's even better gr. Luc

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TMS2564 ?

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

Hello, I am trying to update the firmware in an old BBN BitGraph terminal and it uses four TMS2564 EPROMs, which from what I have been able to determine (see here: http://www.spies.com/~arcade/schematics/ROMref.txt ) are not compatible with a standard 2764. I suppose that I could make four adapters, but if I can find the correct parts, that would be better. Does anyone have four TMS2564-45 (or better) that they would be willing to part with? --tnx --tom

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BBC Micro 6809 2nd proc

by gtoal＠gtoal.com

I mentioned some time ago that I'd once built a second processor for the BBC micro using a 6809. I found it again recently and here's a photo... http://www.gtoal.com/tmp/CNXT0053.JPG You can see the Tube (furthest), CPU (next to it), boot rom (left of the CPU), 64K DRAM, and two custom chips; one is an 8-bit counter for dynamic ram refresh, and a PLA for address decoding. I forget what the other small TTL chip did; it may have been a couple of inverters to create a signal delay? I found this today which I think is the logic table for the dynamic refresh and address decode PLA: { Ras' = (Eclk + Qclk)' RomCS = A15.A14.A13.A12.A11.A10 TubeCS = A15.A14.A13.A12.A11.A10' Cas = Q.(RomCS' + TubeCS')' Count' = Q.(RomCS' + TubeCS') TW' = E' + R/NW TR' = E' + R/NW' } IN A10, A11, A12, A13, A14, A15, Eclk, Qclk, R/W' X X X X X X X X 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 X X X X X X X X 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 X X X X X X 0 X X 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 X X X X X X 0 X 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 X 1 1 1 1 1 X 1 X 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 X X X X X X 0 0 X 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 X X X 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 X X X 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 X X X X X 0 X 1 X 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 X X X X 0 X X 1 X 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 X X X 0 X X X 1 X 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 X X 0 X X X X 1 X 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 X 0 X X X X X 1 X 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 OUT Count', RAS', TW', TR', TubeCS, RomCS, CAS { Ras' use as is. Cas invert with 30ns <= delay <= 60ns RomCS invert TubeCS invert Count' feed directly into counter, counter clocks on falling edge TR' use as is TW' use as is } I also found an HP Plotfile which *may* be the layout of this chip that I'd love to see again - if anyone has a utility to convert HP plotter codes into something more readable that they could run this through in a few minutes (don't put a lot of effort into it, I can write my own utility if I need to) I'ld love to see what it looks like again...: http://www.gtoal.com/tmp/plotfile.txt The chip was laid out in my own layout language called the "Tiled Orthogonal Abutment Language" ;-) - it was basically a crude tiling system with no overlap, pretty much like the way the very first release of M$ Windows worked: http://www.gtoal.com/tmp/megaroute.toal The two empty sockets originally contained 2 32K static rams with battery-backup built-in, instead of the 64K SIL, eprom, and counter. Unfortunately you had to pre-load it with boot rom contents on another system then transfer the ram without the battery falling off :-) (glued on, kinda hacky!) I prototyped it with the static ram and then got it working with dynamic ram when the chips were returned from fab. The custom chips weren't strictly necessary; I was working in the VLSI CAD group and they needed some test chips when trialling a new production line, so all the programmers got the chance to design a chip if they wanted to. I took the chance to do these for the 6809 as I'ld always liked that CPU in preference to the 6502 in the BBC systems. I think if I had needed to I could have used off the shelf chips that would have done the same job. Anyway it was a nice small & cheap system to build in either incarnation; I was disappointed that Acorn didn't pick it up. (The primary reason being that Roger was a speed freak and that the 6809 was obviously not going to be pushed as far as the 6502 was being improved) I also wrote a compiler for it because I had no luck at all getting the only company I could find that wrote a C compiler (Introl) to reply to my letters (http://www.gtoal.com/athome/tmp/c.letter) asking about the possibility of bundling it with our processor, although they were quick enough to send brochures for sales of a single unit when they thought I was an end-user at first. My compiler is here if you're interested; it was no great shakes but it worked for me... http://www.gtoal.com/athome/edinburgh/skimp/skimp-6809/ - and as a result of the Edinburgh history project resurrecting Imp, I've been able to get it running again, with the intention of perhaps writing some Vectrex games with it... (You can see the output of the compiler in this article: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/compilers101/message/187 ) An early (unfinished) source of my boot rom (I lost the final one) is here: http://www.gtoal.com/athome/tmp/kernel.txt - I guess the final working binary is still in the eprom - it does still boot up! Graham

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BBC Micro 6809 2nd proc

by e.huininga＠sozawe.groningen.nl

> I mentioned some time ago that I'd once built a second processor for > the BBC micro using a 6809. > [...] nice job! > [...] > - I guess the final working binary is still in the eprom - it > does still boot up! Any chance you'll be able to get the code from the eprom? Cheers, Eelco

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UNIX on pdp11 (was Digital DSM Disribution tape)

by luc＠e2t.be

As I picked up from the reactions it would be best to put a PDP11 on-line with UNIX on his disks to make usable images of the tape Are there somewhere on the web unix distributions for PDP11? And how do I get it on a tape? Luc -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens SP Verzonden: maandag 1 september 2003 21:32 Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Onderwerp: Re: Digital DSM Disribution tape The way would be to do one copy of the tape contents in one virtual tape available to use with one of the PDP11 simulators availables. I use SIMH and I should like to manage DSM some time :-) Cheers Sergio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luc Vande Velde" <luc(a)e2t.be> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 9:21 PM Subject: Digital DSM Disribution tape > Someone asked a few weeks ago for a copy of the DSM distribution > tape.(9track 1600bpi) > I found it back this afternoon (by accident in a search for some other old > stuff) > To make it clear - this is the native version of DSM (Digital Standard > Mumps) version 3.3 > and it runs only on PDP11 not on vax or other PDP's > Min. machine on UNIBUS = 11/40 on QBUS = 11/23 > If someone can tell me how to make it available I have my ears wide open; or > if someone is willing to do that's even better > > gr. > > Luc

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Dec or Digital Networking

by Dave.Whipple＠DNPG.com

Hi Everyone, My company builds the Decservers adn we are the original networking division otherwise known as DNPG. I noticed there are a lot of Dec users out there and I am sure they would like to know what we have designed lately. We have a brand new Decserver 708 with 8 ports of DB-9 and full modem control encase in metal and ready to deliver. We have the new 90M+ which has replaced the Decserver 90M, 90L and 90L+. We have the 716 and 732. We have a brand new switch family known as the Compass Family. 24 ports 10/100 with 2 uplink slots for fiber or copper in Gigabit or 100 base. These also do upto 128 VLANs at the closet level. The other switch in the family is 4 ports fixed copper gigabit and has 4 uplink slots to be configured as you wish. Now this is the first time we will mention our brand new Console Servers, Cservers which are linux based and are due out in September. We have also partnered up with Console Works and TDI offering out of band management for all of the devices that you want to watch and deem important in real time. This solution lets you oversee and proactively manage in real time from anywhere at anytime. Reboot a workstation in Paris from a blue screen from your bed with a laptop. That is power and management Thank you, dwhipple(a)dnpg.com Dave Whipple Account Manager direct dial: 603-216-6044 fax:603-216-0778 toll free: 877-341-9594 X6044 DNPG, LLC Digital Networks 20 North Wentworth Ave Londonderry, NH 03053

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Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !

by luc＠e2t.be

Fred, I have piles of this AUI cables (in nice blue color even) Im sure I can spare a few And Belgium is a bit closer for you then the us ;)) gr. Luc -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens David Woyciesjes Verzonden: woensdag 3 september 2003 15:46 Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org; waltje(a)pdp11.nl Onderwerp: Re: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout ! "Fred N. van Kempen" wrote: > > DELNI ethernet hubs (yes, I need more AUI cables... anyone?) I think I can help out here, I have a bunch here in New Haven, CT, USA. And 2 DELNIs I want to get rid of also... -- --- Dave Woyciesjes --- ICQ# 905818

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GRIDCASE 1520

by kandres＠epssecurity.com

Guys, You are right on. I sent some info to Jim privately. I still have a plasma GRIDCASE 1520 running on my bench, using DOS to exercise some obsolete equipment that I repair. The Cmos battery is gone so it can't remember its hard drive type, but as long as I can boot to floppy or the ROM it runs fine. I just don't see putting the time into the battery issue right now. It was limited, 1520 anyway, to 40M tops as I recall, the accessable COM port was 2 instead of 1, the internal modem used COM1. The BIOS is machine code and was NOT user accessable. The closest you could get was a utility called GRIDSCAN, which would show the various settings, but you couldn't change them. The startup routine would get so far and you hit "F" for floppy, "H" for hard drive, "E" for external pack. The machine would look for ROM (2 slots) at reboot, so if you were lucky enough to have the DOS 3.3 ROM then it would come up in DOS and you could go from there. I had used it in the field a lot. It has a metal case and is near indestructible. Plus the equipment I used it on was usually located in dark areas, so the plasma display was nice. Also in reference to the water damaged manual, the professionals suggest nothing for after the fact restoration from adherence. They claim freezing it at -15 to hold then freeze drying seems to be the answer. Look at www.mcfoa.org/disasterplan.pdf . Sounds like its time to make coffee! Kev

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Dec or Digital Networking

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Indeed... So, what qualifies at "on-topic?" Who's the "Chief Mugwump of the Wizengamot" who can Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, Texas, USA Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048 Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> -----Original Message----- From: Lance Lyon [mailto:llyon@commodore.thebbs.org] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:09 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Dec or Digital Networking ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tillman, Edward" <Edward.Tillman(a)valero.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 5:55 PM Subject: RE: Dec or Digital Networking > Has anyone actually tried to scale "on-topic" into something we can wrap our arms around? Once upon a time, I was told that any platform carrying a > version of Windows was off topic. Indeed, in another 2 years Windows 95 will fall into the 10+ year range. cheers, Lance

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Dec or Digital Networking

by donm＠cts.com

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Mail List wrote: > Hello Antonio, > > > And the original definition of on-topic was something like > > "not sold commercially for at least 10 years"; under that > > definition this would clearly fail. > > There are a whole lot of items that most would consider on-topic that > third party commercial dealers are still selling. A better definition might > be items that haven't been sold by the original equipment manufacturer > for 10 years. > > Best Regards Or, why not simply items that apply/relate to equipment at least 10 years old? - don > At 06:06 PM 9/3/03 +0100, you wrote: > > > It is probably a bad idea to spam (even if it is ~on-topic) > > > your fans, > > > >It's no more on-topic than it would be if HP were spamming > >about the new ES47 (unless dnpg are still selling* the > >HUB90 stuff and friends). > > > >Antonio > > > >[*] And the original definition of on-topic was something like > >"not sold commercially for at least 10 years"; under that > >definition this would clearly fail. > > > > > >-- > > > >--------------- > >Antonio Carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org

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Some interesting stuff up on VCM

by vcf＠siconic.com

I have these listings on the Vintage Computer Marketplace currently: DEC H7225-BF Constant Voltage Conditioner http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=139 (1.2 * shipping or free for pickup in Livermore, CA) Acorn Electron http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=25 $40 obo Sinclair ZX Spectrum http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=24 $40 obo Sharp PC-5000 http://marketplace.vintage.org/bid.cfm?ad=113 Current bid: $1 -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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barcode scanners, anyone?

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

any model numbers? Joe Heck

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DEC OS

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Zane H. Healy wrote: > The *BEST* OS to run on an Alpha is OpenVMS, and you can run MySQL under > OpenVMS, but I think it takes some effort. Err, now THAT is what I call flamebait. --fred

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The problems of organizing a computer collection

by CyndeM＠vulcan.com

When you put the boards and such away, do you include a pouch of silica gel to absorb the excess water and decrease the possibility of corrosion? Does this matter?

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Gridcase 1520

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

Just Maybe.....?? Press "F" on booting for flop, "H" for HDD, "R" for ROM bd

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2813 manual

by hitndahedfred＠comcast.net

please,,please,,,would you copy the manual for me,,i have a 2813 but no white-papers,,,,thank you,,,fred townsend

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OT: Shipping from England

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Out of curiosity, does anyone happen to have any idea just how much it would cost to ship a 12 Volume Encyclopedia set from England to the West Coast? Zane P.S. Yes, I'm seriously thinking of getting a set of Encyclopedia's from England. -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Dec or Digital Networking

by rogersda＠cox.net

> > It is probably a bad idea to spam (even if it is ~on-topic) > > your fans, > > It's no more on-topic than it would be if HP were spamming > about the new ES47 (unless dnpg are still selling* the > HUB90 stuff and friends). I hate to sound "clintonian" but it may depend on how one looks at it. From the labels on the boxes of DECserver 90s I've been replacing lately, it appears that DNPG is supplying the rebuilt spares and, from the serial numbers, some replacement spares are from current production where the old units were not repairable. Dale, the DECdude

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Vax emulator?

by gtoal＠gtoal.com

I have access to licenced VMS install CDs that came with some uVaxen some time ago at the University where I work. The systems have been surplussed long ago but we kept the software. If there a decent (free) emulator that will run these on a Windows/XP or Linux PC? The ones I've found on the net would appear to be either commercial or sufficiently cut down or incomplete as not to be practical, but this is just from reading, not from using. I'd be delighted to be proven wrong. G

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Comodore SX64 monitor help needed.

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

> i have an SX64 with a dead monitor, can anybody point me in the > direction of a schematic? I have a Commodore service manual which coers the 250622-01 and -02 monitors. These are NTSC and PAL versions of a colour monitor that runs on a 12V DC supply. Alas 'SX64' is not mentioned anywhere.. Could this be applicable? I don't have a scanner, but could certainly look things up for you. -tony

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Old manual got wet

by vcf＠siconic.com

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, emanuel stiebler wrote: > here is the problem: > I have an old manual which spent some time in water, and now after it > dried out, I have more or less just a piece of wood :( > So, how do you guys deal with something like that ? Put it in water > again, and try to remove page after page ? > Any better ideas ? I believe folks have suggested freeze drying in the past? It would probably be useful to check with some experienced librarians on this. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Old manual got wet

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Freeze drying can be used, but requires significant equipment. Look at pages 13-17 of http://www.mcfoa.org/DisasterPlan.pdf Wet books can also be frozen simply to prevent further damage (such as mildew) and to give time to treat the books one by one: freezing locks up the water so it can't do more damage as a liquid. See for example: http://aic.stanford.edu/conspec/bpg/annual/v05/bp05-21.html Once the book has dried out, there is not much that can be simply done to repair the damage. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@siconic.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:57 AM To: Classic Computers Mailing List Subject: Re: Old manual got wet On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, emanuel stiebler wrote: > here is the problem: > I have an old manual which spent some time in water, and now after it > dried out, I have more or less just a piece of wood :( > So, how do you guys deal with something like that ? Put it in water > again, and try to remove page after page ? > Any better ideas ? I believe folks have suggested freeze drying in the past? It would probably be useful to check with some experienced librarians on this. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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CGA monitors available for pickup

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I've got a few CGA monitors here that are available if anyone wants to >come pick them up. Northern NJ, (Ridgewood, 07450). > >Last I knew, they worked (there are at least 4, maybe more). I just walked past one of the piles of CGA monitors, and at least one is actually a PCjr monitor (but I have some PCjr to CGA adaptor pigtails if anyone wants to use it as a CGA monitor). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Tandy 1000

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

I am looking to add a Tandy 1000 to my collection of old gaming computers (for the old 320x200 resolutions the tandy and PCjr only had). Anybody have one they want to get rid of cheap (I need the monitor also)? Located in Ohio/USA

22 years, 11 months

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PDP-11/73 or 11/83's in the US for sale?

by curt＠atarimuseum.com

Hi Joe, I'm in New York near Connecticut. Sounds great dude, I have an RL02 and right now an RLV12 Qbus controller, but I have a place in FL I've been buying Dec parts from and he has RLV11's so that wouldn't be a problem.... I want to also start looking around for an RX02 setup, I actually have a controller board already that was in my Vax4000-200 when I bought it. Curt > curt, where are you physically? I have 3 working systems, which I can > part with one easily, but they are not what you would call "commercial", > although I could put one together in a BA223 box, but shipping would > be more than the box. Also, I always ran RT-11, so I don't know what > the disk drive requirements are. It's nothing to put a processor, 256 > megs of memory and a dlv11j into a box. Do you have the RL02 subsystem > with the controller? > > regards, > > Joe Heck

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PDP-11/73 or 11/83's in the US for sale?

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

curt, where are you physically? I have 3 working systems, which I can part with one easily, but they are not what you would call "commercial", although I could put one together in a BA223 box, but shipping would be more than the box. Also, I always ran RT-11, so I don't know what the disk drive requirements are. It's nothing to put a processor, 256 megs of memory and a dlv11j into a box. Do you have the RL02 subsystem with the controller? regards, Joe Heck

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PART NUMBERS AND EVOLUTION OF PERIPHERALS

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

found this link that might be of interest to someone ... PART NUMBERS AND EVOLUTION OF PERIPHERALS http://www.ics-finmek.com/ics/swtool/manuals/mag_opt/cap2.pdf discusses magnetic storage devices, ie floppy drives, hard drives, and tape drives

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Archive tape drive Model 5945L-2

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Archive tape drive Model 5945L-2 I doubt anyone is going to want this, but I have one of these coming. Untested. If anyone wants this, pick up in person in Va. Beach, VA Archive tape drive Model 5945L-2 Archive 5945L-2 60MB 1/4" QIC-02 5.25" FH

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EBAY fraud alert

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I recently got an email from the "Ebay security audit team" or something to that affect. Says they periodically verify contact information, and couldn't verify mine, asking me to follow a link to update my account or it would be disabled in 5 days. I followed the link, noticed it wasn't in secure mode, and wondered why EBAY would need my bank account number, routing/ABA numbers, not to mention SSN and home address and credit card numbers, etc. The form asked for everything imaginable. Yikes! Upon getting suspicious I checked the headers and html links in the message - needless to say - NOT ebay. Watch out for this one! I did report it to the spoof team at Ebay. Jay West

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The problems of organizing a computer collection

by SPEDRAJA＠ono.com

I use too the NEXEL metalic cabinets with wheels. Hard, light, brilliant, and support A LOT of weight. It's expensive but the product has the price adjusted, I think. Cheers Sergio ----- Mensaje Original ----- Remitente: "Wayne M. Smith" <wmsmith(a)earthlink.net> Fecha: Mi?rcoles, Septiembre 3, 2003 8:09 am Asunto: RE: The problems of organizing a computer collection > > At 12:37 PM 8/31/03 -0400, Ian Primus wrote: > > >I have been striveing to organize both my physical and > > digital space as > > >of late, and hsve been trying to reorganize the basement. I > > have come > > >up with > > > > Boltless commercial shelving. > > Rapid Rack, Econo, Riviteer, and many more make shelving that > > holds 400 to > > 600 lbs per shelf, assembles quickly, and is ROCK stable, > > plus each shelf > > (its hard to explain, but easy to see) holds more stuff since > > nothing is in > > the way, support structure is all at the outside on the > > corners. Home depot > > sells a moderately cheesier shelf called Gorilla Rack, but > > its not nearly > > as good. Sams Club carries some decent Wire Shelving by > > Seville (the patent > > for Metro must have run out) and at $69 for a 48x18x72 6 > > shelf rack on > > wheels, its a steal, and you get REAL used to how handy a > > STRONG rack on > > wheels is. > > > > I have been buying this type of wire shelving made by Nexel -- 800 > lbs.per 24 x 48 inch shelf. So far I have 11 feet it. Of course, > it'sexpensive. A 24 x 48 5 shelf unit with 74" posts runs around > $220. But > it is the best and very nice to look at. I have been buying mine from > Superior Shelving -- > http://www.superiorshelving.com/nexel/pages/nexelWire.html > > -W

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The problems of organizing a computer collection

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

I have been striveing to organize both my physical and digital space as of late, and hsve been trying to reorganize the basement. I have come up with solutions for many of my storage problems, but I would like to hear what other people have come up with. I am currently also working on my website (not yet online) and hope to have pictures and explanations of storage solutions, as well as my collection. I have broken down the basic problems the computer collector generally faces when dealing with space. Any input and solutions for storage problems would be appreciated. As a collection progresses, it grows and expands, both in the mind of collector and the physical space it occupies. The latter is perhaps the biggest concern, especially when it comes to a collection of computers. Computers have a lot of properties that make them a problem to collect, store and organize: - Computers are large. This isn't always true, but they do take up a great deal more space than say, stamps. - There are lots of peripherals. The computer itself isn't normally very useful without the associated peripherals, such as monitors, keyboards, disk drives, terminals, printers, modems, etc. These peripherals are also rather large and hard to store. - There are lots of manuals. Computers, especially old ones, have a lot of associated documentation. These manuals generally take the form of three ring binders... lots of them. The documentation for all the software on an older minicomputer can easily take up two or three shelves. Manuals are also heavy, most cheap bookshelves can't handle it. - And don't forget the media. Allmost all computers use some form of removeable media, which comes in the form of floppy disks, tapes, disk packs, cartridges, optical disks, and more. These too must be stored and organized, and can present problems because improper storeage can damage some types of media, and some media is pretty unweildy and likes to roll off shelves, like nine track tapes. - And, last but not least, the spare parts. As the machines get older, spare parts become difficult to find, and the only source of replacement components tends to be other machines of the same or similar model. Therefore, spare parts must be accumulated *just in case*, since the chances of finding a part when you need it are slim. This presents the additional storeage nightmare of keeping all the spare parts organized. Disk drives, circuit boards, power supplies, broken/damaged machines, duplicate machines, and assorted parts pose an interesting organizational dillemma. Most parts stack poorly, or can be easily damaged. They normally need to be kept in some sort of anti-static bag, and are much more delicate than the complete machines, which have protective cases and can be stacked. Also, inevitably you will end up with forty duplicate spare parts, just in case. - Oh, I can't forget cables. Almost all computer equipment requires a large number of easily tangled, serpent-like items known as cables. Some of these are pretty standard, and can go with almost anything, like power cables or RS232 cables. Others are proprietary and make their associated device an electronic paperweight if they become lost or damaged. Cables are also notoriously hard to store. Anyone that has put up Christmas lights can vouch for this one. Even the most neatly stacked and coiled box of cables will turn into a hopeless tangle if left unattended. All theories of 'cable gnomes' aside, cables provide a difficult storeage problem, as they must remain untangled, yet easy to access if you are in the middle of working on something and realize that you need a SCSI cable *now*. So, what have other people's experiences with organization been? Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

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DEC Server

by kleb_2003＠hotmail.com

Hi Stuart I was recently given two DEC Server 100's. I was wondering if you could help me find some information on these devices and what they were, and could be used for. Thank you Caleb _________________________________________________________________ ninemsn Extra Storage is now available. Get five times more storage - 10MB in your Hotmail account. Click here http://join.msn.com/

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floppy drive

by gj.killinger＠austin.utexas.edu

Hello Do you still have any 8" floppy drives? with cables?? let me know..thanks gary.k

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UCSD P-Code and Pick for IBM PC/XT/AT

by jwstephens_2000＠yahoo.com

Ibm had a distribution of the Pcode and UCSD pascal that came in the same beige / pink boxes that Dos was in. I have that set. Pick started out with support on the PC for the XT and followed with their "classic" virtual port thru a release called R-83M. Licenses are not transferable, but if you find a site with the disks, you may be able to reinstall if you get all their notes. They may not be sold directly, so you should doubt authenticity of sale of anything but current product. Pick is now "Raining Data" and was merged with a rinky dink company that made a Mac database called Omnus. The current powers that are there are trying to get the most from the Omnus side of the business, which has been turned into yet another company that ran amuck and decided to put out the end all "4th gl" development package other than do their original product. Pick / Raining data support a release which predates the merger called D3. Concurrent with the R83 Pick Pc releases, there was a lot of work on another system by Pick which was called Open Architechure, and later Advanced Pick, and finally after porting from a standalone install to a release that runs on top of various host Unix type OS/s now D3. I think there is a standalone D3 available with limited driver support. the hosted version also runs on most Server type windows systems as well. I am sure someone from the pick community can correct this posting if need be. It became an impossible task to support all the hardware variants that exist as a standalone bootable system since driver code is never been designed to be OS independent. So the OS that dominates (now MS, in the past Unix and MS) gets the support from the hardware people and all the Pick / Beos / whatever OS's get screwed unless they are very limited to the generic support. for more Pick info or questions better answered by current players, please see usenet group comp.databases.pick which is inhabited by a nice group of developers and users most of the time. I know there are UCSD pascal usenet groups, but I don't know the current state of the groups, they may be zombies, dead, or taken over by weirdos. Jim

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DOS 3

by vdhb.belgium＠pandora.be

Dear Mr. Fuller Please let me introduce myself: My name is Jaap van der Horst and I live in Belgium. One of my friends is desperately looking for DOS 3.0 or higher. I am not very good at working the net but I believe you did sent out a msg expressing the same request. Should you meanwhile be in possession of this operating system could you please let me know how we can obtain a copy. Thank you and kind regards, Jaap van der Horst

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Gridcase 1520

by jkrywalski＠adelphia.net

Am at a loss as to where to look for help on this one. Recently aquired a Gridcase 1520 for some old DOS programs that I still need to run to interface with some machine PLC's. Need to boot from the "A" drive because the software can't be installed on the "C" drive. HOW DO I GET TO THE BIOS SETTINGS?.... I've tried all the normal stuff, CTL.S, ALT.S, etc., but nothing I do works...... (Have also tried to swing a cat over my head three times while facing east, but that only resulted in a clawed arm on my part!) Thanks in advance..............

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9121 vs 9122

by jwest＠kwcorp.com

Ok, if both 9121 and 9122 use the same media, what is the difference between these two drives? Jay West

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Xerox 6085 SW and HW

by giarmy＠earthlink.net

Kathy, I wonder if you still have the Xerox 6085 software. Mine wants me to scavenge the volume using the disk, VP Scavenge. Do you have it? I would also be interested in the 6085 and the 4045 printer, if they're in good working order. Francis Baker POMIL Research Analyst PO Box 3541 Warrenton VA 20188 (540) 347-7469 giarmy(a)earthlink.net >From =?koi8-r?Q?=22?=stephen Tue Sep 2 19:55:01 2003 From: =?koi8-r?Q?=22?=stephen (=?koi8-r?Q?=22?=stephen) Date: Sun Feb 27 13:39:39 2005 Subject: Comodore SX64 monitor help needed. In-Reply-To: <20030821101029.GA197093(a)earthlink.net> Message-ID: <E19u4ay-0001fh-00.stephenj-mail-ru(a)f16.mail.ru> i have an SX64 with a dead monitor, can anybody point me in the direction of a schematic? there seems to be schematics of the logic section around, but i cant find the monitor sheets :(

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Intergraph boards - anyone want?

by shirker＠mooli.org.uk

I have the motherboard (1xVME) and "Mesa" graphics boards (3xVME) from a 6800 Series if anyone wants them. Free, you pay shipping or collect. Please forward this to anyone you know who is interested in Intergraph computers - thanks! Boards are located in UK. Ed. -- I remember why I started becoming less tolerant, and I think I should strive to become less tolerant in future. - RobA

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1985 computer "pioneer" interviews

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

I recently re-discovered about 2.5 hours worth of audio tapes I recorded in 1985 (mostly at NCC in Chicago), including interviews with Roger Melen (Cromemco), Maury Goldberg (MiniMicroMart), Carl Helmers (Byte Magazine) and a lecture by Roger Amidon (TDL). In the interviews, I was trying to get info on the pre- and early Altair days; I wasn't always too successful, but the diversions are interesting as well. The one that hurt the most was Helmers asking me if I had spoken with Gary Kildall. Gary was in attendance and promised to talk with me but he never showed up at the appointed time. I've copied the tapes as mp3's but there is still about 144 MB of material. What's the best way to share this material? I'll post them to my website if people want to download them but that's a lot of stuff. If you want a CD, you can send me $5 via PayPal to cover materials and postage and I'll burn copies and mail them to you (outside the US at whatever the postage costs). I'm on digest so you may want to reply to me directly. Jack Rubin Wilmette, Illinois USA jack.rubin(a)ameritech.net

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BOGEN model CHS-60A Amplifier Installation Manual

by kb0cw＠earthlink.net

Hello Chris, I understand that you have an installation manual for the BOGEN model CHS-60A Amplifier. I would like to know if you could share it with me? Thanks, Alfred Dodds Laguna Niguel, CA kb0cw(a)earthlink.net

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Looking for HP 10342B Bus Preprocessor software

by simon-ulbrich＠gmx.net

Hello Glen, I'm searching for the Software for the HP 10342. I have read your posting from Dec 26 08:12:15 2002 Could you please send me the .zip, too There was another posting about the manual for the 10342B. Did you or s.o. else publish it? I've manuals for all components of my LA and Preprocessor except for the 10342... If noone published it, can you tell me how to setup the S3 and J5 on the board? Thanks Simon Ulbrich

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Tektronix 4054

by Wolfgang.Noszek＠telekom.de

Hi Monty, I'm from Germany and I also have a 4054. My problem is, that I can get no doks for the system - can you help? Wolfgang

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Old manual got wet

by emu＠ecubics.com

Hi, here is the problem: I have an old manual which spent some time in water, and now after it dried out, I have more or less just a piece of wood :( So, how do you guys deal with something like that ? Put it in water again, and try to remove page after page ? Any better ideas ? cheers

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7 track tape drives

by aek＠spies.com

I have a copy scanned, will try to get it over to www.spies.com/aek/pdf/kennedy in the next day or so. I have a 9000 manual scanned as well. -- done..

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7 track tape drives

by aek＠spies.com

> July 1987, 93-09100-999, for model 9100, part 192-9100-081, std interface, > 75 ips, 800/1600 cpi 9 trk. I have three of these beasts to maintain - one on my 11/44 system, two for 'partz'. I'd love to have the manual.. I can copy/return, or copy forward to archivist... -- I have a copy scanned, will try to get it over to www.spies.com/aek/pdf/kennedy in the next day or so. I have a 9000 manual scanned as well.

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Cool finds! Mutltibus weather computer

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Went out this past weekend and found several interesting items. The weirdest is a Kavouras Triton SX computer built by Kavouras in Minneapolis. This thing is a Multibus computer and has a bunch of ports on the back, including a lot of video, sync and color ports. Also ports for terminal, MODEM, tablet, control and <B>Doppler</B>! I searched the net and the only thing that I could find out about Kavouras was that they deal with weather forecasting and broadcasting. Finally found this link, <http://www.kktv.com/station/jobs/381481.html>, and realized that what I have is probably a computer used to generate graphics for weather forecasting. Neat! Probably too unique just to scrap for parts. Anyone interested in it? I'll swap for something useful/interesting or sell it for a few bucks. Has a hard drive and floppy drive in it. It looks complete but some of the cables have been unplugged from the cards and I don't know where they go so I haven't tried to power it up. Joe PS other finds included two dedicated computers with a pile of PC/104 cards in them.

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Alpha PC64 hardware question...

by dwoyciesjes＠comcast.net

This system may not be 10 years old, but hopefully someone can answer this for me anyway... Quick one here. I have one of those EB64/PC64 motherboards, but only a 200MHz CPU for it. Problem is, the board is set up for a 266MHz CPU. Has anybody overclocked a 200MHz CPU to 266 in one of these? With appropriate fans for good cooling, of course. Also, these boards can run off of a regular AT style power supply, correct? -- --- Dave Woyciesjes --- ICQ# 905818

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IBM 60

by majordomo1＠cox.net

By my fault. By my fault. By my grevious fault. Please disregard my blather about the need for the IBM whatever 60. I was the middle-man for a restauranteer whose point-of-sale computer had gorked and jumped to you guys without viewing his layout. Turns out it was a dinky running PC Dos. His 30 employees have been using scratch pads. Forgiveness is begged. .. harry .. > > From: Al Kossow <aek(a)spies.com> > Date: 2003/08/29 Fri PM 11:01:21 EDT > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: IBM 60 > > The IBM 360/60 was never really a product.. try again. > > -- > > > BTW, weren't the 360/60 and 360/62 as evanescent as the 64 and 66? And wasn't there > > a 360/70 that also quickly disappeared? > > The original lineup was the 30, 40, 50, 60, 62, and 70, with a vague promise of a 92. > > The 60 and 62 were the same CPU (2060), but different core-memory units (2360 and > 2362). The 70 used hardware similar to the 60 and 62, but was all hard-wired, with no > microprogramming, and used the superior 2362 core. > > The original S/360's took a long time to be delivered, and, a year later, some of the > hardware specs were no longer competitive. The 60 was dropped altogether, and the 62 > and 70 were replaced by the 65 and > 75. Out of them all, only one 62 was ever shipped to a customer. At the same time, > the 92 was dropped, to be replaced by a vague promise of a "90 series", later > realized in the 91, 95, and 195. It was also about this time that the original > 2.0-microsecond 30, with lights in the front like the other 360's, was largely > superseded by the 1.5-microsecond > 75(1), with lights behind a flat panel like a 1401; though the > 76.-microsecond version was never officially discontinued, and was shipped in large > enough numbers that there were 2.0-microsecond 22's offered (the 22's were > reconditioned 30's, offered while the 370/115 and > 77/125 were not yet ready), it was rare (I never saw one). > > But in the meantime, the need for large-scale timesharing had resulted in the > announcement of virtual-memory versions of the 60 and 62, to be called the 64 and 66. > As part of the same restructuring, these were withdrawn a month after they were > announced, to be replaced with the 67. > > Of the original April, 1964, 360's, only the 40 and 50 ended up being shipped in > large numbers.

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7 track tape drives

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

Well, here is the list of manuals for tape drives and formatters. I have a couple of controller manuals at work (emulex/dilog qbus ) And yes, Al, you can borrow any of the manuals to make an archive. I'll let you know exactly what I have for tapes to read in the next week or so. Thanks. Cipher Technical Manual 799816-004, rev c. M890 Cachetape Unit Volume 1, operation and Maintenance, jan 1984. Cipher technical manual 799816-003 revision g Model F880 Magnetic tape transport volume 1 operation maintenance, August 1983 Digi-Data Microprocessor-controlled Formatter operation Manual, 0552580-0000 1980 Digi-data D.M.A magnetic tape interface for PDP-11 operation and maintenance manual, 0552521-0000, 1980 (UCI, Unibus compatible interface.) Digi-data Syncronous transport operation and maintenance manual, model 1140, 1640, 1740 and 1840, 0552457-0000 3/81, 40 series magnetic tape transport. Same as previous, but from 8/80. Pertec Phase encoded formatter, model f6x9, manual 101399, specifically model f649-40, copyright 1971. Kennedy model 9100 Digital tape transport operation and maintenance manual, July 1987, 93-09100-999, for model 9100, part 192-9100-081, std interface, 75 ips, 800/1600 cpi 9 trk. Pertec, Models t6x40 and t6x60 syncronous write, syncronous read tape transports, operating and service manual 100884, for model t6840-9, copyright 1978. Pertec, looks like the same as above, different transport serial number. Datum, peripheral equipment division, model 5091 nrzi formatter, instruction manual 1800.6, series 5091 magnetic tape formatter systems,around 1976 Datum, peripheral equpment division, model 5091 1600PE formatter, instruction manual, publication 1803.8, series 5091 magnetic tape formatter systems, also about 1976 Wangco MOD 11 NRZI moagnetic tape transport operation and maintenance manual 201086 E, october 1974. Wangco MOD 10 magnetic tape transport operation and maintenance manual 200237, June 1972 same as the MOD 10, but December 1973, labeled on the outside MOD 10A, but cover sheet says MOD 10. Wangco MOD 10 PE or MOD 10 PE/NRZI magnetic tape transport operation and maintenance manual, 200951, May 1974, but inside it says Perkin-Elmer MOD 10 magnetic tape transport, PE and PE/NRZI, 200951-001 Wangco MOD 10PE or MOD 10 PE/NRZI operation and maintenance manual, 200951K, February 1976 That's all for now. Regards, Joe Heck

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Heathkit H-11 Manuals Needed

by bob＠jfcl.com

Has anyone scanned the manual for the H-11, HT-11, et al? I'd appreciate a pointer if someone has. Thanks, Bob Armstrong

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