27 Aug
2003
27 Aug
'03
8:22 p.m.
I have access to licenced VMS install CDs that came with some uVaxen
some time ago at the University where I work. The systems have been
surplussed long ago but we kept the software. If there a decent
(free) emulator that will run these on a Windows/XP or Linux PC?
The ones I've found on the net would appear to be either commercial or
sufficiently cut down or incomplete as not to be practical, but this is
just from reading, not from using. I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.
G
28 Aug
28 Aug
2:16 a.m.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Graham Toal wrote:
I have access to licenced VMS install CDs that came
with some uVaxen
some time ago at the University where I work. The systems have been
surplussed long ago but we kept the software. If there a decent
(free) emulator that will run these on a Windows/XP or Linux PC?
The ones I've found on the net would appear to be either commercial or
sufficiently cut down or incomplete as not to be practical, but this is
just from reading, not from using. I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.
SimH/VAX works fine for most VMS playage.. it supports a fair set of
disks, terminal controllers, tapes, and emulates a KA655 (MicroVAX 3800
et al) system with up to 32MB of memory. It also supports Ethernet,
and can run under either several flavors of U*ix, VMS or Win32.
Cheers,
Fred
7:27 a.m.
Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Graham Toal wrote:
The only problems with simh networking that I have found, is that it must
run as root, and LAT doesn't work very well in my setup (not exactly sure
why, except that LAT doesn't route well)
I have access to licenced VMS install CDs that
came with some uVaxen
some time ago at the University where I work. The systems have been
surplussed long ago but we kept the software. If there a decent
(free) emulator that will run these on a Windows/XP or Linux PC?
The ones I've found on the net would appear to be either commercial or
sufficiently cut down or incomplete as not to be practical, but this is
just from reading, not from using. I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.
SimH/VAX works fine for most VMS playage.. it supports a fair set of
disks, terminal controllers, tapes, and emulates a KA655 (MicroVAX 3800
et al) system with up to 32MB of memory. It also supports Ethernet,
and can run under either several flavors of U*ix, VMS or Win32.
7:38 a.m.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Kevin Handy wrote:
The only problems with simh networking that I have
found, is that it must
run as root, and LAT doesn't work very well in my setup (not exactly sure
why, except that LAT doesn't route well)
True... I dont like how they did the
eventual DEQNA/DEUNA emulation;
I still believe my code was better *evil smile*. The LAT problem has
to do with LAT protocol timing constraints; it will puke lots if these
are not met. SimH will lots of troubles adhering to that- LAT wants a
80ms response time on its protocol, soo... not simple.
--f
7:40 a.m.
The only problems with simh networking that I have
found, is
that it must run as root, and LAT doesn't work very well in
my setup (not exactly sure why, except that LAT doesn't route well)
I'd be surprised if it routed any worse than any other
unroutable protocol :-)
LAT is also particularly sensitive to timing.
Antonio
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Antonio Carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org
5:47 a.m.
The ones I've found on the net would appear to be
either
commercial or sufficiently cut down or incomplete as not to
be practical, but this is just from reading, not from using.
I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.
There's Charon-VAX of course, but that is commercial.
I have real VAXen so I've not used either SIMH or TS10. I've
certainly seen plenty of people claim to be using SIMH
successfully and running OpenVMS. I think that TS10 works
too but I've not seen so much about that.
Antonio
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Antonio Carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org
6:10 a.m.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Antonio Carlini wrote:
I have real VAXen so I've not used either SIMH or
TS10. I've
certainly seen plenty of people claim to be using SIMH
successfully and running OpenVMS. I think that TS10 works
too but I've not seen so much about that.
The current releases of SimH are fine
for running UNIX and VMS;
I personally have a configuration with OpenVMS V7.1, OpenBSD V3.2
and Ultrix/vax V4.5 on my laptop, for playing and development
while on my way somewhere...
--f
6:17 a.m.
I have real VAXen so I've not used either SIMH or
TS10. I've
certainly seen plenty of people claim to be using SIMH
successfully and running OpenVMS. I think that TS10 works
too but I've not seen so much about that.
I have real VAXen, too, but I also have both SIMH and TS10 working
just fine. I've run VMS V7.3 on both of them.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
29 Aug
29 Aug
8:47 p.m.
Hi,
I have access to licenced VMS install CDs that came
with some uVaxen
some time ago at the University where I work. The systems have been
surplussed long ago but we kept the software. If there a decent
(free) emulator that will run these on a Windows/XP or Linux PC?
You might want to check out SIMH - that's a free simulator, compiles under
windows and linux (and numerous other architectures). It's got a MicroVAX
simulator (MV3500 IIRC), as well as a good few others.
simh:
ALTAIR/ GRI/ I1401/ Interdata/ PDP10/ PDP8/ VAX/
AltairZ80/ H316/ I1620/ NOVA/ PDP11/ S3/
BIN/ HP2100/ Ibm1130/ PDP1/ PDP18B/ SDS/
The SIMH VAX simulator works well enough for me to install and run OpenVMS
7.2 + Multinet. As far as relative speed is concerned, on a P4 1.8G
running linux, it's slightly faster than my MV3100/10e and my housemate's
MV3520. I've not got any fast VAXen to compare it with - but it's fast
enough :&)
-- Matt
2 Sep
2 Sep
12:41 p.m.
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 9:14 am, Graham Toal wrote:
I have access to licenced VMS install CDs that came
with some uVaxen
some time ago at the University where I work. The systems have been
surplussed long ago but we kept the software. If there a decent
(free) emulator that will run these on a Windows/XP or Linux PC?
The ones I've found on the net would appear to be either commercial or
sufficiently cut down or incomplete as not to be practical, but this is
just from reading, not from using. I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.
G
You want either:
ts10 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/ts10/
or
simh, which people have already provided URLs for!
melt
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New subject: Tatung Einstein 256
I need information about this vintage computer. I'm trying connect this computer to a
monitor and build a PSU
Regards
3 Sep
3 Sep
6:19 a.m.
New subject: Tatung Einstein 256
I need information about this vintage computer.
I'm trying connect
this computer to a monitor and build a PSU
I doubt it's any help, but I have some info, including schematics, on the
'normal' Einstein with 64K RAM.
The PSU is internal, and provides (IIRC), +5V, +12V and -12V.
The monitor connector is a 6 pin (IIRC) DIN socket. Internal links set
this to either R-Y, B-Y and Y (composite luma and sync) or RGB + sync.
I have pinouts, etc if you think they're any use.
-tony
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