- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Joeydoe4＠aol.com

HI John I might be interested in the vintage keyboard you are giving away. If you could please write back and let me know more details i would be very happy thank you Joe

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trs-80 Model II keyboard

by HLRJR＠aol.com

I am interested in the Keyboard (If you still have it). Harold

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wanted: C64 sound chip (SID)

by freddy＠kotelna.sk

folks, anyone has spare SID (sound chip used id C64s, perhaps others) willing to sell? shipment would be to Slovak Republic (Slovakia, Europe), payment via BidPay (Western Union) money orders for the US, Western Union MO to other countries. other ways to pay? just tell me. these are those I've good experience with. anyone willing to support an electronic hobbyist this way? :) thanks in advance, -- freddy ...for more info 'finger freddy(a)kotol.kotelna.sk'

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HP 5423A analyzer

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

Bob, I saw a thread in classiccmp.org where you said "Its quite easy to 'unmodify' the customized 21MX and turn it back into a normal E-series. I've done this modification several times, contact me off-list if you want the details." I've got a HP 5423A and I'd sure like the details!!!! Cheers, Lyle -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. Mountain View, CA 94040 "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

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More Goodies from the Silicon Valley Refugee

by ran＠netgate.net

Thanks for your replies to my previous posting: I managed to find homes for almost everything. I've been going through the boxes in the garage, and found a surprising assortment of little tidbits left over from my old computers. Except as otherwise noted, the hardware is used, in "excellent" or "like-new" cosmetic condition. I say "probably working" a lot, but it has a better than 90% chance of being fully functional. The paper stuff is generally is "visibly used, but not abused" condition. All prices are "plus postage". Yes, I know that the shipping cost will often be more than what I'm asking for the goods, but I don't get to set the rates. If this *really* bothers you, let me know: I'll be happy to raise the price to correct the imbalance ;-) I'd prefer PayPal, but any form of payment that doesn't cost me money in bank fees is fine. Ran Here's the list: Pet Pack - $5 Osborne's PET User Guide Osborne's "PET and the IEEE-488 Bus" VIC-20 Pack - $12 Original user manual (cover somewhat scuffed, "good+" condition) Commodore's programmer's guide Osborne's VIC-20 User Guide (you can have this "semi-autographed" if you want, but I lost touch with my co-author about 15 years ago, so you'll have to settle for "semi-", unless you want to track him down). Compute's "Gazette" for the VIC and C-64, first issue A VICModem (probably 300 baud, probably working. No labels on it, though. This might've been a prototype or pilot unit, and is cosmetically only somewhat better than "good"). A 3-slot backplane board from Atari Pack - $5 Star Raiders cartridge Telink II cartridge (modem program??) No docs or box with these. I'd say the odds are better than 95% that both are good. I *think* I still have a couple of cassette apps (probably games) from the Atari Program Exchange hanging around. I'll throw those in if they turn up, and you want them. PCjr Pack - $25 IBM Tech Reference (in the slipcase, in "as-new" condition) Floppy controller board (should be working: as I recall, I pulled this to install a Tecmar add-on with better features) Modem board (probably 1200 baud. Enough chips are socketed that it's probably feasible to hack this into a serial card) 3 cordless keyboards 1 keyboard IR receiver module (dealer spare) 1 pack of 5 overlays for the keyboards (sealed) First issues of "PCjr" and "Peanut" magazines My (possibly incorrect) recollection is that one keyboard is the original from my PCjr (little-used, because I upgraded to the more-normal one almost immediately), one was a dealer spare that I bought along with the receiver, and the third was a swapmeet buy. So there should be at least two in (like-)new working condition. C-64 Speech synthesizer cartridge - $5 each "Voice Messenger", by Currah Technologies. I have 2 of these, still shrinkwapped. Uses a hardware synthesizer chip (SSI263??), and has an extension ROM that adds speech functions to the built-in BASIC. The first buyer gets a free light pen that plugs into the joystick port, but has no docs or software unless I get a surprise while sorting through my old files. My recollection is that there's a photodiode in it that generates an interrupt when the CRT beam sweeps past it. Fat Mac Pack - $2 (Or "Skinny Mac Pack", if that's what you've got. But that didn't rhyme ;-). I have a numeric keypad for the original Macs, in the original packaging. The box looks a *bit* shelfworn, but surprisingly good, considering its age. The most likely story is that it's a working unit that the buyers of my early Macs didn't want, because it's unlikely that I would have packed it and kept it if it weren't. But I honestly don't know its real status. Mac II Pack - $5 Nobody wanted the Mac II, so it's doomed to be recycled. But the Enhanced keyboard and the mouse are in excellent shape, since I used the Mac only moderately for a few years, and more-or-less retired it when OS/2 got to the point where it would fill my GUI needs. Sony Laser Library - $20 Sony-proprietary-interface 1X CD-ROM drive, bundled with Compton's Family Encyclopedia, MS Bookshelf 1991 Edition, Languages of the World, National Geographic Mammals, Mixed-Up Mother Goose, and a World Atlas (I've forgotten whose). There was a 1.1 update to the encyclopedia that Sony sent out due to some sort of complaints about the 1.0, and that's included. I'll also include a half-dozen or so caddies. This was one of the first CD-ROM drives to get drivers for OS/2 and Linux, so it may be of interest to someone wanting to run early versions of those, as well as DOS fans. I put relatively few hours on the drive before I switched my system to all-SCSI, so it should be good for a lot more use. I'll give you a 90-day warranty on it: if it fails, I'll refund the $20 (but not the shipping), and you get to keep the CDs and caddies. I might actually have the original box up in the attic (but it may not be suitable for re-use after being there for so many years). The docs are probably complete: I can't swear to them being fully complete, because I don't remember what was included.

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newbie

by agblood＠hotmail.com

greetings all, I'm agblood. I've got a c128, a trs-80 mc-10, several XTs and ATs, and a TP-340, (there's more but that is the basics). Does anyone have any info on the power supply for a Grid 1755/486slc (beyond 16vac, 1.25 a)? _________________________________________________________________ Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_emoticon

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Intel ISIS OS for an IPDS

by feldte＠cox.net

I am desperately looking for a copy of the Intel ISIS OS for an IPDS (Intel Personal Development System). Can anyone help me? Everett Feldt feldte(a)cox.net

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Ansley connectors

by railside＠frontiernet.net

To Whom it may concern. I am currently trying to catoluge an obsolete electric car program. One of things I have come across are boxes of Ansley connectors (cat. # 612-1604). I am sure there are other types of connectors too. Is this something you or someone you know might be interested. Thank You, Don Parnell / railsidellc

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FS: DEC machines + Parts

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I've got more machines and parts to clear out to make room. Prices listed are per item, shipping is extra, I can ship via FEDEX ground express from West Lafayette, IN. 2ea - DECstation 5000/240, 32MB Ram, PMAGB-B framebuffer, LK-401 keyboard, VSXXX-GA mouse, console breakout cable, video cable. $20 - LK-401 keyboard $10 1ea - DEC BC29G-09 3W3 to 3xBNC video cable $10 - DEC BC13M-10 DA15S to keyboard/mouse (17-02640-01) - same as used with DECstation 5000's above $10 3ea - DEC VSXXX-GA mouse $10 I've got more things that I'll be posting as I sort through them. Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs/

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Wanted: Decmate or Pro350

by curt＠atarimuseum.com

Anybody have either/or working condition and want to sell? Curt

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HP 2895 (paper tape punch, facit 4070) assistance sought

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

This weekend I actually got around to building my final HP2000/Access system. Today was spent completely disassembling the dual bay rack, cleaning, touchup painting, and reassembling. I finally have the "right" racks that HP2000 was usually sold in, so everything matches the HP2000 site preparation and installation guide. I'm taking large amount of pictures of the restoration, and at some point I'll get them up on the web along with descriptions. I'm doing it with 2100's again, but I'm trying to come up with a way to use E series machines. One thing I was looking at... HP has a 2895 paper tape punch, which is actually a facit 4070 bit with a totally custom drawer/slide thing. I can not figure out how this thing is supposed to contact/mount with the rails in the rack to save my life. Does anyone have the 2895 rackmounted, who could offer a few key clues as to how it's mounted in their rack? The installation guide doesn't address rackmounting. Thanks for any help! Jay West

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Cables Offered - Just Pay Postage

by patrick＠evocative.com

I have four cables for anyone who wants them, for the price of postage ($3.85 for priority mail in US 48+DC, others inquire)... 1) Sony SMF-400 15-pin (HD-15M) VGA to five BNC connectors (wire colors black, grey, and red, green, and blue of course); 2) Three SGI (Sun too?) Video Cable 018-8219-001 13W3 (take one, two, or all three). First come, first served. --Patrick

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Kaypro 10 goes for $355

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Check it out http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2752237662

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Wanted to Buy or Trade for, Apple II/II+ ASSCII Keyboards

by macfan＠realdsl.com

I am restoring some Apple II computers and in need of at least two, Apple II/II+ ASCII keyboards. If you have any that you would like to sell / trade to me or know of a source for these, please email me. Thank you in advance for any and all help Bob K. macfan macfan601 (eBay)

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specifications for IBM XT-286

by cheri-post＠web.de

Hi all, can anybody tell me, what harddrive and disk drives (modelnumber and company) are built in a IBM XT-286 ? I found such a machine 2 months ago. Unfortunately, all the drives are missing. The machine itself semms to be in a godd condition. Thanks alot in advance for your help! Pierre ______________________________________________________________________________ 38xTestsieger - WEB.DE FreeMail - Deutschlands beste E-Mail Jeden Monat mit 10% mehr Leistung! http://f.web.de/?mc=021138

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Trouble with Magnavox Odyssey

by vcf＠siconic.com

Has anyone here ever tinkered with a Magnavox Odyssey and got it to work? I have four of these dang things and have not gotten one of them to fire up. I can't imagine that they are all bad. I am pretty sure that the video connection from the unit to the screen is solid as I tested it with an Atari Pong console and got video. I'm using a 9 volt adapter and have tested the voltage and have also tested that voltage is getting to the unit and that is all working. The unit gets turned on when you insert a carthridge. I've inserted and re-inserted the carthridge several times but there is nothing on the display, not even a glitch or flicker in the background noise. I've used contact cleaner on the carthridge and inside the slot but that hasn't helped. Has anyone else ever played with one of these and gotten it to work? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Manuals for the postage

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

I'm cleaning out. Here are the manuals going into the recycling bin in the next week or two. If you want them, ask now... Able Computer Q/DH controller user guide,10177x07, oct 1982 Monolithic Systems Corp, MSC 4604 LSI-11 dual-high memory system, 100-0093-0000, 1978 Cambex microstor-1123 256 K-words users manual 207-105-460 rev D, MDB systems product brochure , BA11, RK, RM (SMD) TM11, etc. Data Translation DT3362 series A/D subsystems, UM-00070-f, 1986 MDB-DZ11 asyncronous mux, for pdp11 and vax, 1981 Clearpoint QRAM 22B user manual Control Data Corp PBS and PB-1130 band printer operating and maintaining about 1982 National Semiconductor product spec and installation NS11/2P 32K max x 18 MAX 4230007, 1978 National Semiconductor install guide NS23M 256k byte memory 1984 Datacube VG-150 bitmap graphics controller software, UM0020-1, feb 1985 Datacube VG-150 bitmap graphics controller hardware, UM0019-1, Feb 1985 Ciprico Rimfire 44 product spec, 210100444, Sept 1982 Computer Dynamics Win-358 winchester controller board users manual 1985 MDB systems computer interface products for 11/2 and 11/23 computers and price list, late 1981 MDB systems MLSI-DZ11 async mux for lsi-11, instruction manual, 80040359, 1982 Ciprico quartermaster multibus quarter inch mag tape adapter product spec 21010079, july 1984 DEC vt103 system configuration guide, ek-vt103-cg-001, 1981 Ciprico tapemaster multibus 1/2 inch tape adapteor, product spec,21010011 septermger 1985 try that again september 1985 Ciprico tapemaster multibus 1/2 inch tape adaptor application note, 21010001, july 1985 National semiconductor NS44F 512k byte ecc memory installation guide, 1983 Ciprico rimfire 50 multibus SMD disk controller product specification, 21010050, feb 1985 MDB MLSI-DLV11 async serial line interface instruction manual, 1978 ( I probably have boards as well) DATACUBE CM-169 writable control store users manual UM0021-1, feb 1985 ADAC model 1900 LSI-11 to Unibus translator instruction manual GTSC model 309 async mux model 309 instruction manual, IM1284 (might have boards) GTSC models 364-369 ditital I/O boards im 1182 GTSC model 306 RTC and clock Calendar, 979-0021-306, sept 1986 (might have board) GTSC model 304 serial I/O board, IM-983 (older manual) GTSC model 304 schematics, 1982 GTSC model 304 serial I/O board, 12/84, newer manual Clearpoint DCME-Q user manual rev 1.03, 1988 Heathkit H11-2 parallel interface module schematic Heathkit WH9-1, WH8-51, WH11-51, WH8-41 adapter cables instructions Heathkit H11-2 illistration booklet Heathkit WHA11-5 serial interface module schematic Heathkit H11-5 illistration booklet Heath/Zenith model WHA11-5 serial interface module operation/service manual 1979 Heathkit H11-5 serial interface module 1977 Heathkit H11-2 parallel interface module 1977 Heathkit H11-5 schematic I have a 6 inch stack of AFDAC manuals, way too many thing to list. If you have any interest in the aADAC stuff, let me know, I'll figure something out. I also have a photocopy of (almost) the whole HP-PLOT/21 manual. Regards, Joe Heck

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Dilog DQ100 support

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

I am going to try to find a Dilog DQ100 board to use with some diablo 31 drives I have in order to read some DEC RK05s I have. Before I waste my time, does anybody have either a board or the documents for the controller? If I find a controller, I have no Idea how to set it up. Thanks Joe Heck

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specifications for IBM XT-286

by Innfogra＠aol.com

According to my records the XT/286 (5162-286) came with a std 20 Meg HD, a MFM drive with 4 heads, 615 Cyl, 17 sectors, a 65 ms Drive. AT type 2. Came with one 1.2 Meg floppy and could take an additional floppy or tape drive. Paxton

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(Ping) Paging Jim Willing, paging Jim Willing.

by netsurfer_x1＠fastmailbox.net

I'm looking fo Jim Willing. I need to talk to him ASAP. -- David Vohs netsurfer_x1(a)fastmailbox.net -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Sent 0.000002 seconds ago

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FA: HEWLETT-PACKARD 1000 E-SERIES COMPUTER(2720)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Spotted on E-bay <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2557285949&category=1504> Joe

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DEC BA356 question

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I need my memory refreshed. Recently I *FINALLY* obtained a pair of BA356 shelves, one of which has the Wide personality module (I've also got a pair of narrow modules sitting on a shelf, that are still in the box, that I've had for years). So, my question is this, is it safe to have the Wide personality module in the shelf, and mix narrow and wide drives? My memory says that it is, but.... I'll only be doing this long enough to transfer data off of three Narrow drives onto Wide drives. Now to see if the stars are truly right and I'll be able to do this upgrade this weekend... Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Amiga 4000 asking $7000 on eBay

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Check out this system. I have nothing to do with the sale. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3430659156&category=4598

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Aries Research Marix MS

by vcf＠siconic.com

I have just recently come into several Aries Research Marix MS workstations completely with keyboard, mouse, optical mousepad and monitor. This is some sort of Sun Sparc clone. I haven't tested them but if there is significant interest then I will do so and come up with a reasonable price for each. The shipping on the monitor may be a tad high as they are all about 19". Please let me know... -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Thanks all for SCSI PCMCIA card advice

by jpl15＠panix.com

I have an Adaptec 1460D on order, will pick it up Monday - under $100, too. Hmmmm... I wonder what a SCSI-to-ESDI converter would entail.... that might be fun. Cheers, and thanks to everyone for the nearly unanimous helpful advice! John

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software for the decserver

by mikelait＠magasec.com

did you ever find out where to get the software for the decserver 700? I have some as well. jim

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PCMCIA SCSI cards advice

by jpl15＠panix.com

I was wondering if anyone had some experience and/or preferences with SCSI cards for laptops - specifically I want to hook my M4 Data 9914 9trk drive up to one of my laptop PCs (IBM or Dell) to archive/transport/backup tape images to-from the 11/44. Speaking of the 11/44 - I'm in the market for one or a couple of Pertec foramtter cards to fit the Kenedy 9100.. I have a Pertec Unibus card, just need the interface cards for the machines themselves. Also cables for same... ALSO: still looking for an (H960?) tall DEC rack to buy. Must have casters, would like to have the anti-tip legs, all other acoutrements unimportant. (power controller, logos, sides, etc). I will be at VCF 6 in October, and can pick up these items in that general area then. Cheerz John PS: yes, yes, I know - Marketplace!! Okay, already....

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Clean-up

by nico＠farumdata.dk

I have now finished my annual stocktaking, and the following obsolete/surplus items have popped up. It would be appreciated if they could be used in restoration projects, as long as my P&P is covered. Postage from Denmark depends on weight and/or size, so please ask first. A very short description is included, but you can mail me directly at nico(a)farumdata.dk for more info (1) Qualstar 1052 R/W formatter. 1 new, 1 slightly used (2) SMS SCSI controllers. 5x SMS-512, 8x SMS-7250. The 512 is an 8-bit ISA controller, talking to the 7250 which can address 4x floppy disc and 7 50-pin SCSI devices. (3) Digital 8-bit net adapter, FCC-id AO9-DE100 (4) 2x IBM adapters as described in an earlier message. 9-pin output, probably network adapters. Marked 16/4 on a green sticker with white border. (5) 1x MFM disccontroller, 2x HD Nico

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Looking for IBM Technical Reference Manual

by prk＠iespana.es

Hello all! I have been searching the web looking for the original IBM PC/XT schematics. I read on some post that they were published in the "IBM Technical Reference Manual" and in the "Microcornucopia" magazine, but I couldn't find it anywhere. Please, could you tell me where can I find those schemes? Please, if anyone has it, can you make a scan and post it? Thank you. Luis G. "Prk" ---Publicidad-------------------------------------------------------- Juega con Ventura24.es, lotería inteligente y multiplica tus posibilidades!! http://www.iespana.es/_reloc/email.ventura

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Gawd damn bugs!

by vcf＠siconic.com

I just found out that two of my magazine boxes were attacked by some damn little wormy things. They were white and about a quarter inch in length. They'd come up through a crack in the foundation of my warehouse and started eating away at the file boxes. Fortunately, they seemed to like the cardboard way more than the magazines, though they did take out significant chunks of a couple issues of Kilobaud Computing from 1979 (bastards!) They also left a lot of wormy poop behind, and unless I'm smelling the acid from the paper breaking down, they left a stink too. Damn punk-ass bitch wormy things. Has anyone else had issues like this? How did these fuckers find my boxes out of all the damn cracks they could have crawled out of? What are they? Termites? Now I have to waste time filling in the cracks so this doesn't happen again. I can't have gawd damn wormy things eating my damn computer stuff! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Heathkit 4801 EPROM Programmer

by patrick＠evocative.com

Does anyone have a Heathkit 4801 EPROM programmer? Please contact me off list... --Patrick

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Looking for IBM Technical Reference Manual

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

I have in hardcopy the "IBM Technical Reference Personal Computer XT and Portable Personal Computer, 6361459. It is in a mini 3 ring binder. I don't have it scanned, nor am I willing to scan it. However, if you cannot find electronic versions, perhaps there are parts of the manual you want. If you want JUST the system board schematics, then I will scan the 20 or so pages, but it might take a while. It would be easier for me to photocopy the 20 or so pages and send them along. regards, Joe Heck

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New "vintage computers" forum

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

> > Doesn't another forum just dilute things even further? > > I certainly don't have time to read classiccmp, newsgroups, and... > > I don't believe it is physically possible to dilute information > further than it is diluted here. Joking, but only in part unfortunately. > > If someone wants to suffer through moderating his own forum, then > more power to him. The ''free market economy'' will decide who wins. There are a number of advantages to the web based forum over news groups and mail lists which is the reason I started the Vintage Computer Forum a while back. Of course, these other technologies are simpler and require far less bandwidth then the more graphical web forums for those that prefer to use vintage equipment to talk about vintage equipment. I'm convinced that there's room for everyone in the "free market economy" and that, in the end, everyone is a winner. Maybe I'm naive, but just I don't think it's a zero sum game. I'll mirror Jules question of "but... why?" only because the VC Forum I've been hosting is already mature, has nearly 200 registered users and appears to have almost exactly the same content as Lance's effort. In the end, though, Lance is adding to the community just like ccTalk, the VC Forum and the wide variety of other discussions out there. Congratulations, Lance, and more power to you! :) Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum The Vintage Computer Forum

22 years, 11 months

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Value of Adds Viewpoint terminals

by cb＠mythtech.net

Do Adds Viewpoint terminals have any value? I have 8 of them I no longer use or need. Cosmetically they are all rather beat. All are yellowed and dirty, with lots of pen or pencil marks on the cases and keyboards. All keyboards have all their keys, and to the best of my knowledge all 8 are in good working order (they all worked when they were last used, but that was a number of years ago). The cosmetic issues are probably nothing a good scrubbing can't improve. I don't believe any have physical damage to them. I'm just curious if these are something I should try selling, or just give/throw away. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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bbc radio programme about leo computers

by james＠cs.york.ac.uk

this week's "book of the week" has been "a computer called leo" which tells the story of the world's first business computer and the company, more famous for their tea shops and ice cream, who produced it. it's a little short on technical detail, but well worth a listen. this weeks programmes will be available online until at least 0900GMT on monday. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/book_of_the_week.shtml?focuswin -- James F. Carter http://www.jfc.org.uk/

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OT? - How to run a DOS BBS directly attached to a Terminal Server

by keith＠saracom.com

Hello, This may be OFF TOPIC but I did run WWIV more than 10 years ago. My question is how to run a DOS BBS directly attached to a Terminal Server. That is without a modem. I have a PicoWeb server which basically allows one to connect a serial device directly to ethernet and comunicates via TCP/IP. It works and I can talk with it via Telnet. However I want to run a classic BBS such as WWIV. I have tried my backup copy from circa 1992 and it really wants a modem. I have tried the current version too without luck. So is there any old style BBSes which will work with a direct connection to a terminal (in my case a serial to ethernet convertor)? I would want chains.txt support so I could run the great online games. I could run WWIV with my two V.everything modems back to back but that IS overkill. Is there any other solution? Has anyone tried this? Thanks Max

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PAL & RGB on Cub monitors - a partial answer, and more questions

by alan_geering＠hotmail.com

OK, I've managed to find a part answer to the question I asked a while back. (What inputs did the Microvitec Cub Monitors have?) Microvitec 653 cub monitors came in a few flavours: Shape: MS = the cub in metal case as most people are used to LS/LI = plastic casing ("structured foam" case) Input: 1451 = standard monitor with TTL inputs (BBC B, RM 480Z, Electron & Oric) 1455 = dual standard monitor TTL or 1v/75ohm video (BBC, Oric, Electron, RM 480Z, RM 380Z) 1459 = 1v p-p/75ohm video input (RM 380Z, DEC Rainbow, Crommenco 501) 1456 = Mac & IBM versions differing only in color sets There was however a Triple Standard monitor - which I would like to track down - the brochure for which statesinputs as: PAL/TTL/Analogue (1v/75ohm). This was a 20" version. Looking at the circuit diagrams for the triple standard interface I can see that what it means by PAL & 1v/75ohm Video is the following: PAL = what I would call composite video with colors encoded as PAL 1v/75ohm video = RGBS, BNC sockets for RGB and BNC socket for S which is also the PAL/Composite input (cunningly the monitor circuits also alow for RGsB) I've not managed to find a diagram of the Dual Standard interface so I can't say what the connectors look like on the back. For now I'm assuming they were just BNC sockets. Does anyone have the 1459 version of the Cub? Can they please let me know what the rear looks like. Does anyone have the 1455 Dual Standard version of the Cub? same info would be useful. Finally: Does anyone know where I could find 1455 & 1459 versions? Thanks again, Alan geering >From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) >Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: PAL RGB on Cub monitors >Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:52:49 +0100 (BST) > > > Forgive me, I'm new to BBC computers and associated techology > > > > What I would like to know is whether the cube looking monitor >(microvitech > > cub?) that came with BBC computers had the following: > > > > A scart input that took a PAL RGB 1v p-p signal that sync'd on green? > >No Microvitec cub ever had a SCART socket. > >There were serveral models. Most has RGB inputs, which were internally >link-selectable to be either TTL level digital (giving 8 colours on the >screen), or 1V analogue. I think all models had separate sync inputs. > >There was a model (which I have never seen!) which had a built-in PAL >decoder. This took 1V composite video. The input was a BNC socket IIRC. > >I don't know what a 'PAL RGB' signal is. PAL is a method of colour >encoding, RGB implies separate signals for the 3 primary colours. One >signal can't be both! > >-tony

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Subject: trouble interfacing an HP86B to an HP7040 plotter with a serial

by swtpc＠attbi.com

I still have the homemade cable I used to connect a HP7040 to my original IBM PC in 1983. It is a DB-25S (PC end) to DB25P (plotter end). Plotter PC 1 1 2 3 3 2 4 5 5 4 6 20 7 7 20 6 This would be a null modem cable. I also found this HP link for a newer plotter http://www.hp.com/cposupport/plotters/support_doc/bpp01379.html Michael Holley www.swtpc.com/mholley > From: "RHahm" <rhahm(a)nycap.rr.com> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Cc: "Vassilis Prevelakis" <vassilip(a)dsl.cis.upenn.edu>, > "John Shadbolt" > <john_shadbolt(a)talk21.com> > Subject: trouble interfacing an HP86B to an HP7040 plotter with a serial > interface > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:51:44 -0400 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Hi, > > I am having trouble interfacing an HP86B to an HP7040 plotter with a serial > interface. > > I have two HP serial interfaces: standard with male DB25 connector and > 0pt.01 with female connector. > > The plotter has a male DB25 connector. > > I have connected the standard with with a gender changer and the opt. 01 > directly without success. > > I typed PLOTTER IS 10 and (the baud rate on the plotter is set at 9600)I get > an error message. > > > This is the first time I have tried a serial connection and unfortunately I > don't have any > documentation for the HP serial interface. > > Do I need a null modem for the opt. 01 serial interface? > > What am I doing wrong? > > Thanks, > > Bob

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Cable wanted...

by curt＠atarimuseum.com

The C64 shares the same pins outs as the Atari 800 video, so you can use the same cables, try redmondcable.com and www.myatari.com which both sell Atari Composite 5 pin din cables. Curt > I'm in need of a C-64 video cable - it's got a 5 pin din on one end, and 3 > RCA plugs on the other (luma, chroma and sound). Anyone here have one > they'd like to part with? > > Tnx! > > g.

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TI FD1000 dual 8" disk array available

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Please respond directly to Ryan about this item. <PASTE> Physically its in good shape, the only consmetics are a few scuffs and some of the "filter" has been removed. I was planning on ebaying it starting bids around $5-10 sometimes they take off that way, sometimes not. I originally bought the unit at an auction figuring I could get the pinout of the unit and attach to my old PC5150 but the interface seems to be scsi'ish and totally incompatible. I am located in Weston (Wausau) Wisconsin near the center of the state, shipping on the unit would probably be $30-$60 as it weighs a lot 50-60lbs unless there is someone nearby to pick it up at my house. Cheers Ryan May In a message dated 9/11/2003 8:00:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rcini(a)msn.com writes: > Subj: Re: Old miniframe TI FD1000 dual 8" disk array > Date: 9/11/2003 8:00:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: "Richard A. Cini, Jr." <rcini(a)msn.com </cgi-bin/compose?curmbox=F000000001&a=2cc77026fe5278c1ae2a4179cb6b64a5&mail to=1&to=rcini(a)msn.com&msg=MSG1063332327.92&start=52005&len=2824&src=&type=x> > > To: RMay635703(a)aol.com </cgi-bin/compose?curmbox=F000000001&a=2cc77026fe5278c1ae2a4179cb6b64a5&mail to=1&to=RMay635703(a)aol.com&msg=MSG1063332327.92&start=52005&len=2824&src=&ty pe=x> > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > > Ryan: > > I do not know anyone off hand. But, I can share this info with a group of > computer collectors to which I belong. It would help me if you could tell me > where the unit is located, its condition and how much, if anything, you are > looking to be paid for the unit. > > Rich > > > >From: RMay635703(a)aol.com > >To: rcini(a)msn.com > >Subject: Old miniframe TI FD1000 dual 8" disk array > >Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:48:19 -0400 > > > >Hi, if you or anyone you know is interested in a TI 960? Floppy disk array > >FD1000 email me back. > > > >Cheers > >Ryan

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Betr.: (no subject)

by e.huininga＠sozawe.groningen.nl

Can you remind me what this thread was about? I can't remember :-) Cheers, Eelco >>> <davidmercier(a)newengleng.com> 09/08 3:50 >>> I do have pinouts for eeco 9301 if you still need it. David A. Mercier New England Engineering Services 25 West Street Stafford Springs, Ct. 06076 (860) 684-5980 Fax: 684-5982

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bugs!

by cb＠mythtech.net

>3 + 5/8 if you're going to start inside V1 and they're all 1" thick and 5 >covers to go through. wouldn't it be 3.5 inches? Starts page 1 vol 1, ends last page vol 3, so that's only 4 covers to go thru (back of vol 1, front of vol 2, back of vol 2, front vol 3). So that's 3 books of pages at 1 inch per book, 3 * 1 = 3 4 covers at 1/8 per cover is 4 * 1/8 = 4/8 = 1/2 3 inches of text + 1/2 inch of covers = 3.5 inches that the worm travels. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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PAL RGB on Cub monitors

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> There was a model (which I have never seen!) which had a built-in PAL > decoder. This took 1V composite video. The input was a BNC socket IIRC. There is more than one model that has the PAL board and may also have the audio board or even the stereo audio board. I have the beige cube shaped CUB with the PAL board, a black 'D' series CUB (more conventional monitor shape) with both the PAL board and a stereo audio board and three beige CUB monitors in chunky plastic cases that have the PAL board but without the decoder section being populated, they also lack an audio section. The inputs on the beige cube and the black 'D' series are the standard CUB DIN socket and a BNC socket. The BNC is for 1v PAL or .3v sync and the DIN socket is either .7v RGB or digital RGBS. The chunky plastic beige CUBs all have four BNC sockets, RGB and Sync. Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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Setasi/DEC RP12

by mross666＠hotmail.com

Folks, Recently was lucky enough to pick up one of these, brand new never used. http://www.corestore.org/rp12.htm Unfortunately it came without any media. Questions: 1. Can anyone confirm they used 'standard' Quantum Passport XL media, without any wierd & wonderful DEC factory formatting? 2. Can anyone provide copies of the vital personality diskettes? Without those, it's a lump of iron :( Thanks Mike http://www.corestore.org _________________________________________________________________ Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_emoticon

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bugs!

by TRASIOL＠cs.com

Sellam: You really opened the proverbial 'bag of worms' (your own description). I suggest again - get advice from a professional exterminator. I've had termites in my house, my garage, in storage rooms, etc., and I assure you they will go right through plastic wraps, plastic sheets, plastic curtains, and anything made of wood or wood fibres (like paper). Defeating them is not a "game" that most of us are prepared or equipped to play, and, yes, I have a contract (perpetual) that guarantees the protection of my home and all I have in it. Saying you don't need it is like saying you don't need any kind of insurance - life or otherwise.. Protect your investments! Art

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Omnibot 2000 Robot For Sale

by FunToGoFast＠aol.com

FOR SALE: A rare original robot by Tomy, Omnibot 2000. Included is the auto tray and remote control. Please email me with any questions and pictures if needed. Also we have two used Rad 2.0 robots with remotes... And a Cybie dog, color is blue, in orig box with all papers, remote, charger, battery, used cond... freedmaneric(a)hotmail.com Thank you. Eric

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For Sale: Omnibot 2000 Robot

by FunToGoFast＠aol.com

FOR SALE: A rare original robot by Tomy, Omnibot 2000. Included is the auto tray and remote control. Please email me with any questions and pictures if needed. Also we have two used Rad 2.0 robots with remotes... And a Cybie dog, color is blue, in orig box with all papers, remote, charger, battery, used cond... Email: freedmaneric(a)hotmail.com Thank you. Eric Eric

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trouble interfacing an HP86B to an HP7040 plotter with a serial interface

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

I recall that with a new plotter of that era I had to initiate the plotter by hooking everything up and then typing and running a basic program from the PC to the plotter through the serial cable. The program initiates the plotter for use. If this is not a new plotter, it may have been set up for a different PC/desktop calculator in which case you'd need to re-initialize it. If that's not the case, maybe the ROM(?) that held the original configuration is bad. Do you have the manual for the plotter? The program should be in there. Sorry..I do not remember the program, it's been almost 20 years! Maybe someone has a HP7040 plotter manual out there in this group. The basic program should be only 3-5 lines. bd

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EXO Corporation singleboard?

by bbehr＠pacbell.net

Are you still seeking info about EXO Corp. computers? I worked for them, call me at 530-544-8262, don't email me. Bill

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Pro-Log M822A 8080A System Analyzer and PDP/8E Drawings

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I'm intersted in the Pro-Log unit. Can you send me his address? A friend of mine has one and I narrowly missed one a couple of years ago. Joe At 10:45 PM 9/9/03 -0400, you wrote: >Hello 8080 and 8080A and DEC PDP/8E fans, > > >I bought some stuff from a guy just north of Sacramento, and he had >a couple of other things for sale that I didn't need, but some of you might >want. He had sent me pictures, so I uploaded them for viewing. > > >Pro-Log M822A 8080A System Analyzer ... he had said he only wanted $25.00 >for this >8.5" x 11" x 2" >will work for the 8080 and the 8080A >clips over 8080A CPU chip and is used for >debuging programs and hardware system design >8080A first process authorized for military applications >8080 ... Altair, IMSAI, SOL, Poly88 > >http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2mj6m/pics/Z_Pro-Log_System_Analyzer_02 0.jpg > > >Original PDP8/E Computer Engineering Drawings ... he had said he wanted >$50.00 for these > >http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2mj6m/pics/DEC_PDP8-E_Computer_Engineer ing_Drawings_024.jpg > > >If anyone wants either of these, send me an email and I will forward it on >to him. >I will not be involved past that point, and accept no responsibility for >the outcome. > > >Best Regards

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Gawd damn bugs!

by TRASIOL＠cs.com

Sellam: I'll bet my last dollar that you've got termites - or maybe they've got you! They love corrugated board and paper. I've had them bore holes right through books, from cover to cover. I suggest you get help!! Art Hill

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YADA10YR (Yet Another Discussion About the 10 Year Rule)

by blstuart＠bellsouth.net

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 Tony Duell wrote: > And of course the Sequent machines that were boxes of 386s running in > parallel IIRC. That's right. Their symmetry series were 386 based and the earlier balance series were based on the 32016 (or maybe the 32032). I'm not sure if there were any other OSs, but the ones we had at Purdue ran Dynix, their version of UNIX for these parallel machines. Now if I could just find one for my collection... Brian L. Stuart

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Another Apple 1 for sale

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 05:30 AM 9/10/03 -0400, you wrote: >There are plenty of 1950's era computers which are one-of-a-kind. Sadly, >many of them went to the scrapper. The ironic thing is that the truely one of a kind (or very limited production) computers aren't very collectable since few people know of them. I'm sure the people on this list can name lots of computers that were had less than 200 produced. And none of them would command the kind of price thaat the Apple I's do. I ran into the same thing when collecting cars. I have a 1970 Dodge Challanger RT convertible. The Challangers were only built for 3 years, convertibles only built for 2 years, only 269 RT convertibles were ever built. It's a LOT rarer than the Mustangs but everyone knows about the Mustangs and that's what everyone wants so the Mustangs are worth more than the Challangers. Joe > >Peace... Sridhar > >On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, TeoZ wrote: > >> Compared to rare stamp and coin collecting its a drop in the bucket for >> something thats very rare (but not 1 of a kind) >> Since I am curious whats the rarest/most expensive computer? I assume its a >> one of a kind that has some major historical value. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> >> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:44 AM >> Subject: Re: Another Apple 1 for sale >> >> >> > On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 ghldbrd(a)ccp.com wrote: >> > >> > > He should sell it to those guys in Nigeria, the 419 boys. >> > > >> > > Let me know when the price drops to just ludicrous. >> > >> > On the contrary, $20K is the going rate for a typical Apple-1. With all >> > that he's offering, it's actually a good deal. >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer >> Festival >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> > International Man of Intrigue and Danger >> http://www.vintage.org >> > >> > [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage >> mputers ] >> > [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at >> http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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bugs!

by aek＠spies.com

> Surely better uses of Knuth remain today. He plays piano pretty well.

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Vintage Computer Marketplace gets WIRED!

by patrick＠evocative.com

Our first mention: http://wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,60349,00.html Thanks to everyone for your support! --Patrick

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Help with a eprom

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

Yes, I can also do it, either duplicate a current prom, or use a bin or hex file on a PC. Near Boston and Providence Joe Heck

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bugs!

by cb＠mythtech.net

>No, because as William said "assuming normal arrangement of the volumes on >a shelf", volume 1 is to the left of Volume 2, which is left of Volume 3. >So only the front cover of Volume 1, all of Volume 2, and the back cover >of Volume 3 need be traversed. Yeah, as soon as I read his post, I slapped my forehead for having over looked that fact. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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bugs!

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

No, because as William said "assuming normal arrangement of the volumes on a shelf", volume 1 is to the left of Volume 2, which is left of Volume 3. So only the front cover of Volume 1, all of Volume 2, and the back cover of Volume 3 need be traversed. -----Original Message----- From: chris [mailto:cb@mythtech.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:27 PM To: Classic Computer Subject: Re: bugs! >3 + 5/8 if you're going to start inside V1 and they're all 1" thick and 5 >covers to go through. wouldn't it be 3.5 inches? Starts page 1 vol 1, ends last page vol 3, so that's only 4 covers to go thru (back of vol 1, front of vol 2, back of vol 2, front vol 3). So that's 3 books of pages at 1 inch per book, 3 * 1 = 3 4 covers at 1/8 per cover is 4 * 1/8 = 4/8 = 1/2 3 inches of text + 1/2 inch of covers = 3.5 inches that the worm travels. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Help with a eprom

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

O.K., I have the bin file in my briefcase. Tonight I will try to burn a 27c128 at home. I have the chips, I just don't know if they are verifiable. I'll post tomorrow. So, nobody else need kill time until I fail. I have 4 programmers, I suspect I won't have a problem, but who knows. Joe Heck

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PDP-11/83 Power Supply Wierdness

by cmcnabb＠4mcnabb.net

My PDP-11/83 has recently (past few weeks) been displaying some odd symptoms. The system is a PDP-11/83 in a "Corporate Cabinet". Most of the time, when the power switch is turned on, the "run", "halt", "ready" lights blink on then go off. Also, the Red light on the TK-50 will come on then go off. You also hear a relay closing and opening in the rack power supply. About every 10th try, the DC OK light will come on and the system will start to power up. Then all the lights go off after a couple of seconds and the rack power supply relay clunks. When the switch is turned off, "run", "ready", and the TK-50 light blink on and you hear what sounds like the relay in the rack power supply closing and opening. Kevin, do you remember it doing anything like this when it was yours? -- Christopher McNabb <cmcnabb(a)4mcnabb.net> The McNabb Family

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Another Apple 1 for sale

by Paul.HILLS＠uk.landisgyr.com

I liked the Steve Jobs quote from one of the links off that URL (http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,20271,00.html)... "It's the first Apple I built and sold by Apple," claims auctioneer Risley Sams, who will open the bidding on Tuesday 29 June at 11 a.m. "We offered it to Steve Jobs, but he said he had such a hard time selling it in the first place that he didn't really want it. Paul http://www.landisgyr.com/ This communication contains information which is confidential and may be privileged and is for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). If you are not a named addressee please contact the sender immediately, and delete/destroy this communication. You are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company, its directors or officers unless otherwise specifically stated. The Company is not responsible for any reliance placed on the information contained herein and excludes all liability. (c)Copyright 2003 Landis+Gyr Ltd UK All Rights Reserved.

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image software for 700

by mikelait＠magasec.com

I got some too. ever find out about the image software? Jim

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help with corvus concept

by gksloane＠hotmail.com

I am trying (so far in vain) to find keyboards and monitors for a Corvus concept. I have three concepts - but no monitors and only 1 keyboard! Got any ideas where I might look? Got an old one in your garage? Gary Sloane SB/US Engineering Inc. gksloane(a)hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_emoticon

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another few wanted items

by aek＠spies.com

Also, need a complete set of rails for the 11/34 cpu... or... can I use 11/44 rails for it? -- 34's use the same Chassis-Trak slides that were used on RK05's. 44 rails are quite unique, and are actually hard to find, since most systems were sold in corporate cabs which had another unique set of top extending slides.

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Help with a eprom

by luc＠e2t.be

I can program almost anything there is and was to program... If nobody closer then me can help you - send me the code Luc Belgium -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens TeoZ Verzonden: dinsdag 9 september 2003 23:59 Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Onderwerp: Help with a eprom Would anybody with an eprom burner be willing to burn a 27c128 rom (I have the code) to update an apple scsi card rom from revision B to C so it will work with my IIgs?

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Another Apple 1 for sale

by cb＠mythtech.net

>And actually, the Apple-1 of that auction was not in fact the first. The >first was given to Lisa Loop by Woz to use in her classroom. You need to learn to read "marketing speak". They did specify that it was the first built AND SOLD by Apple. If Woz gave away the first built, that doesn't make it the first build AND SOLD. Its all in the twist of marketing :-) (Of course, that doesn't mean I believe it anyway... I've personally come to expect that 90% of what anyone selling an items says is probably BS) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Gawd damn bugs!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I should have mentioned that. A friend of mine is a REAL pack-rat. He has books that he's had in storage for many years with no damage. He uses tomato boxs from the grocery store. They're fairly small so they're easy to handle when filled with books and they're sturdy. He puts a heavy duty plastic trash bag in the box and then puts his books inside that and then closes the bag and seals it with a twist tie. So far we haven't seen any moisture or bug damage to any of them. (We've opened up at least 100 boxs and put them up on shelves.) A couple of years ago he gave me a box full of NorthStar manuals that had been in storage for 12 or 13 years. They were all completely undamaged when when I opened them up. Joe At 06:03 AM 9/10/03 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > >> I just found out that two of my magazine boxes were attacked by some damn >> little wormy things. They were white and about a quarter inch in length. > >Termites have legs. (At least every one I've seen did.) > >Do these have legs? I've heard termites will eat paper/cardboard, so >I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they were termites. > >You could stick the magazines in little plastic baggies, sorta like >what the comic book ppl do, and that'd keep bugs (and a number of other >things) away from the magazines. > >YMMV, Std. Disclaimers apply. (Of course. :-) ) > >David

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Needed: IBM 5364 PC Console Attachment Programs

by ceby2＠csc.com

Martin -- Thanks so much! This looks like just the right stuff to get me going. I'll give a try as soon as I get a chance today. Now, as to S/36 information for the beginner... truth is the publicly accessible material's a little thin on the ground. It pre-dates IBMs electronic documentation distribution. Being old hard copy, a lot of it's been pulped at this point. I've managed to assemble a pretty fair bookshelf of hardcopy, and I've scanned two of the manuals to at least a readable level. They're big though. The Operator's manual for ht 5362/60 I scanned is 100 MB. You're very welcome to it of course. That's why I scanned it in the first place. But I'll need an ftp site or some such to send it to. I do have the operator's manual for the 5364 and some other goodies, but I got them so recently nothing's scanned yet. As a quick entre you might want to read the AS/400 reference for the S/36 environment (IBM Bookshelf: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/QBKAUR00/CCONTENTS?SHEL…). That's the compatibility mode they continue to support. The link takes you to the earliest version I could find. It should give you a good intro to the command structures and concepts. Or you could look at the documentation for Advance System/36. I don't know if they sell that at more, but that was basically an AS/400 running S/36 with some enhancements (IBM Bookshelf: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/Shelves/qbja8n03) . I don't know how close AS/36 and S/36 are. If those links aren't helpful, let me know a the location of your favorite bit-bucket, and I'll pass on what I've scanned so far. Thanks again, Colin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Free: HP 64000

by luc＠e2t.be

Jim, Sorry but I can't help you with the 6809 pod. But if you intend to do it away I am very interested. I used it for years on Z80 development. Actually I have one, but very incomplete - no pods, no doc... I have no problems in paying shipping cost in advance (I know it's heavy) gr. Luc Belgium -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens jimcox(a)miba51.com Verzonden: dinsdag 9 september 2003 22:18 Aan: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Onderwerp: Free: HP 64000 Hello: I was searching Google for anyone interested in a HP 64000 that I adopted (more like left on my porch :) and came a cross an newgroup posting you had made and was wondering if you could help me out. The system was given to me under the pretext that it would come with a a 6809 pod, but alas it only has a Z80 Pod and something like an 8047 Pod. It did come with all the docs. plus extra components. Do you know where I could find a 6809 Pod for this beatie. If you do know where I can get a 6809 pod for free or very cheap, I would appreciate knowing about it. If not, do you know of anyone interested in taking the system for free. I live in the Seattle area, so it's free to anyone willing to pick it up. Thanks! Jim Cox

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Another Apple 1 for sale

by cbajpai＠comcast.net

Found this while searching around..I think he discounted the price to $20K -Chandra (A) Apple 1 computer in case. (B) Five (5) original manuals, a complete set, as of this time I know of no one else that has a complete set of manuals. (C) Three (3) original Apple 1 cassette tapes from Apple Computer Co. (D) The SWTPC PR-40 printer. This printer itself is an antique and hard to find. It is unique to the Apple 1 computer because of an article in InterFace Age magazine, Oct 1976 by Steven Jobs. (E) The InterFace Age magazine, dated Oct 1976. (F) The Nuts & Volts magazine, July 2002 issue. Has an article and pictures on the Apple 1 computer. (G) A+, an Apple magazine, dated Jan 1987. The 10 year anniversary of the Apple II but has pictures of the Apple 1. Done with Steve Wozniak. (H) The Brief Case, pictures on web site. (I) Last but not least, the postcard that was signed by Steve Wozniak, a prized possession. The cost of the Apple 1 system is thirty thousand ($30,000) US dollars. You must be able to pick up the system or arrange to have it picked up. Other conditions apply but will discuss with the buyer before agreeing on a deal for the Apple 1 system. I reserve the right to refuse any offer. If more that one party is interested, highest offer will get the Apple 1 system provided all conditions are meet. http://torzewski.tripod.com/apple1computer/id11.html

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SVGA with DE9

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I have a Sony CPD-1304 VGA/SVGA monitor that has a 9-pin connector as >well. I have a 9-15 pin adapter cable to use it on a PC, and they also >supposedly made (but I never got one) a cable to use it with a Mac II >class computer. I might have a cable or two like that for the Mac. I have some that are 15 pin like the Mac RGB connector, and go to a 9 pin like a CGA connector. I don't know what they go to, they were just in a box of cables that I aquired. Humm... I wonder if I can use one of those cables with my Sabre monitors? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Two 3Com finds today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

At an auction today I picked up an 3Com #Server3 and a 3Com 3Station hooked to a WYSE WY-530-02 and the KB for it.

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Correction: PDP8/E now on eBay

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Oops, Took me a while to get to getting those pictures up and in the meantime he put the PDP8/E schematics on eBay There currently at only $26.00 with almost two days to go. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41519&item=2556402557 Best Regards

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Needed: IBM 5364 PC Console Attachment Programs

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/9/2003 10:21:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ceby2(a)csc.com writes: Question... this one probably goes to Sellam, but the field's open... I have an IBM PC/36, the baby System/36. Silly thing's sitting on my desk daring me to power it up, but without a critical bit of code I can't. To operate a 5364 you need a PC attached and running the "Attachment Programs". They act like a control panel for the server -- controlling the whole IPL and diagnostic process. As you may have guessed, I haven't got them. Would anyone on the list have such a set of disks around somewhere? -Colin Eby yea, I have one. you talking about the AT size mainframe with the single floppy drive? I got one about 2 years ago along with the dual floppy 5150 that runs it I guess and a terminal connected via twinax. I managed to IPL the system, but that's it, not knowing how to operate it any further. Mine just uses a single floppy. Is that what's needed?

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Pro-Log M822A 8080A System Analyzer and PDP/8E Drawings

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Hello 8080 and 8080A and DEC PDP/8E fans, I bought some stuff from a guy just north of Sacramento, and he had a couple of other things for sale that I didn't need, but some of you might want. He had sent me pictures, so I uploaded them for viewing. Pro-Log M822A 8080A System Analyzer ... he had said he only wanted $25.00 for this 8.5" x 11" x 2" will work for the 8080 and the 8080A clips over 8080A CPU chip and is used for debuging programs and hardware system design 8080A first process authorized for military applications 8080 ... Altair, IMSAI, SOL, Poly88 http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2mj6m/pics/Z_Pro-Log_System_Analyzer_02… Original PDP8/E Computer Engineering Drawings ... he had said he wanted $50.00 for these http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2mj6m/pics/DEC_PDP8-E_Computer_Engineer… If anyone wants either of these, send me an email and I will forward it on to him. I will not be involved past that point, and accept no responsibility for the outcome. Best Regards

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Flex mailing list?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody know what has happened to the Flex mailing list or to Ian Blythe who hosted the Flex website? (http://www.flexusergroup.com/) I tried to subscribe to the list but the message bounced. I found two addresses for Ian but both are no longer valid. Joe

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Needed: IBM 5364 PC Console Attachment Programs

by ceby2＠csc.com

Question... this one probably goes to Sellam, but the field's open... I have an IBM PC/36, the baby System/36. Silly thing's sitting on my desk daring me to power it up, but without a critical bit of code I can't. To operate a 5364 you need a PC attached and running the "Attachment Programs". They act like a control panel for the server -- controlling the whole IPL and diagnostic process. As you may have guessed, I haven't got them. Would anyone on the list have such a set of disks around somewhere? -Colin Eby ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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OSI Challenger II Docs.

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

are there any Challenger II docs out there in PDF format?

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Help with a eprom

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Would anybody with an eprom burner be willing to burn a 27c128 rom (I have the code) to update an apple scsi card rom from revision B to C so it will work with my IIgs?

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SVGA with DE9

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Do you mean "DB9" connectors? I was under the impression that the small D shell size was an "E" not a "B". That "B" was the larger size commonly found on 25 pin connectors (lets not split hairs here, everyone knows what I mean by 25 pin connector... ie: a common PC parallel connector, or the larger serial connector, or a Mac SCSI connector). I used to call it a DB9, but I was corrected many moons ago by others on this list with FAR more knowledge on the topic than I have, so I took them at their word, and have made an effort to always refer to it as a DE9 now. I suppose the HD15 "VGA" connector would then be a DE15. And a DB9 would be a "25 pin" shell with only 9 actual pins in it (9 pin spaces, as from what I understand the count is based on number of spaces, not actual number of pins present). Hopefully we will avoid the whole "whats a "centronics/amphenol/telco/SCSI" connector called" discussion. That one really makes my head spin :-) But I am curious what the Sun monitor connector is called (that one that is a DB shell with 3 large barrel pins as well as some smaller pins). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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CGRS 6502 card for Altair bus

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

I've got a bare S100 board labeled "CGRS 6502 Computer Board, Rev A 7/77 WMS". The only reference I can find to CGRS is in the What's New column of Byte 2:7(115)- July, 1977 - "A New Microcomputer Series from CGRS" which describes three boards in the 6000 Series of Altair bus compatible cards based on the MOS 6502 processor. Manufacturer is listed as CGRS Microtech of Southhampton, PA. Other refs to CGRS Microtech point to Commodore PET products including RAM upgrades and an S100 interface card. Anyone know anything more? Jack Rubin Wilmette, Illinois USA

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ISO Corvus Omnidrive Service Manual

by aek＠spies.com

> Do you have the service manual for the Bank tape drive? www.spies.com/aek/pdf/corvus/7100-05219_CorvusBankSvc.pdf

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ISO Corvus Omnidrive Service Manual

by aek＠spies.com

I've been able to locate almost all of the Corvus service manuals now to archive with the exception of this one. The frustrating thing is that I HAD one of these before I gave all of my Corvus stuff to Eric Lander (who I managed to trace down again but disappeared before I could get anything back >from him). If someone has a copy of this that I could borrow to scan, please let me know.

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Anyone have a CPU board for an OSI Challenger II ?

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

our roommate here has an old OSI challenger II that someone was kind enough to break into his storage unit and tear apart, we found all of it's guts except the CPU board :( does anyone happen to have one? or is anyone interested in the rest of it?

22 years, 11 months

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PAL RGB on Cub monitors

by alan_geering＠hotmail.com

Forgive me, I'm new to BBC computers and associated techology What I would like to know is whether the cube looking monitor (microvitech cub?) that came with BBC computers had the following: A scart input that took a PAL RGB 1v p-p signal that sync'd on green? If it did then can you please let me know which models. This is quite an urgent matter. Thanks, Alan Geering _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

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Free: HP 64000

by jimcox＠miba51.com

Hello: I was searching Google for anyone interested in a HP 64000 that I adopted (more like left on my porch :) and came a cross an newgroup posting you had made and was wondering if you could help me out. The system was given to me under the pretext that it would come with a a 6809 pod, but alas it only has a Z80 Pod and something like an 8047 Pod. It did come with all the docs. plus extra components. Do you know where I could find a 6809 Pod for this beatie. If you do know where I can get a 6809 pod for free or very cheap, I would appreciate knowing about it. If not, do you know of anyone interested in taking the system for free. I live in the Seattle area, so it's free to anyone willing to pick it up. Thanks! Jim Cox

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another few wanted items

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I need the rackmount rails for an RK05J. The drive still has it's "inner" rails, the ones that bolt onto the drives. But I need the mating ones that go in the rack. Also, need a complete set of rails for the 11/34 cpu... or... can I use 11/44 rails for it? Jay West

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9000a pods

by aek＠spies.com

> looking for a 8085 fluke pod I have one available. Contact me off-list.

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HP-85 item wanted

by jwest＠kwcorp.com

Ok, I know no one has one or will let it go if they do, but I'll ask.... Looking for the HP-85 accessory 82929A Programmable ROM drawer I'll trade unusually high for it... Jay West

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Need Covalent Terminal info

by jpl15＠panix.com

A considerable amount of Googling, et al., has turned up no readily-available info, so I apply here: I have a Covalent Systems model 1410 terminal, which I bought at Weirdstuff last VCF, because cosmetically it *looks* like a VT100... anyway it was cheap and it works, but it appears not to emulate any known DEC CRT in it's present configuration, and the two sets of dipswitches on the back are cleverly un-marked. (Why do 'engineers' DO this shit??? Are they ashamed of their work? DO they hate techs??) Anyway, if anyone has any Covalent terminal info, or can point me to same, I'd be Much Obliged. The Collateral good news is that my 11/44 system has survived the move and garage temps over 110F and booted up this afternoon (now that it's cooling off a bit in northwestern Nevada) with no problems at all. I've spent the last few hours poking around on it and trying to remember how to drive RSX11 without having to drag a bunch of manuals out. I was using the Covalent for the system console, and a VT220 for the user term. I have a Decwriter on the way to use for the Console - and, I can now have my dream come true: the Machine will live in the Garage, and the terminals will be in my office - where it's Quiet. Cheers John

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Genrad FutureData

by john＠farwestdesigns.com

Hey, Don't know if you are still interested in info about the GenRad Futuredata 2300 but I spent a long time in front of one and still have access to it for (very) occasional support. We bought it in 1980 and used it to develop a MagCard debit system based on the 8085. Used it for 6 years before transitioning to a PC environment. Observations: Extremely slick. RDOS II was spectacular for what it was intended for. Assembly, linking and loading always went without a hitch. Ours had a whopping 48K, 2 x 128K 8" Shugart drives and all the emulator stuff. You could buy memory to take it past 48K but it only gave you a few more K since RDOS II had to live in the upper memory. We did not use the emu too much as we had a resident monitor that was specifically tailored to debugging what we had to do. I did incorporate a PAL into a new design and when I discovered that all the PAL cross-compiler stuff ran on PDPs and other expensive machines that I did not have access to, wrote a PAL cross compiler that ran under RDOS II that drove a ProLog blaster to get us through. This was in 1981. All in all, a fantastic system. Even with the PC onslaught, it took a 486/33 with a HDD to finally beat the assembly/link speeds of that sorry, floppy-based FutureData unit. I returned to school after all this to complete the degree in computer science and was appalled at the sorry algorithms presented in the lower division. The FutureData used full track buffering, double hashing and more to make the most of limited hardware resources. Different than the current crop of VBASIC hacks. *sigh* As an aside. Back in those days, Intel, National and others sold their chips with the development systems (Intellec, StarLink etc.l) like a hook. Once you had put $20K into the development system (sometimes rack mounted!) they figured they could hose you on their single board computers etc. at whatever cost. With the GenRad, we could listen to them say how much more expensive it would be to move to the next board and then watch them crater when we told them that for less than $1K we could completely re-tool our development hardware and .. would have! Heady times, for sure. RJO

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"VAX/VMS Troubleshooting" rev 0.C available

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I have a document called "VAX/VMS Troubleshooting" available. It came from a former DEC employee, but I have no DEC hardware, so it is up for grabs, free -- but you pay shipping. It looks like a laser-printed copy, 3-hole punched and in a blue Digital binder, 220 pages, single-sided. Title page says "EY-5315E-P0-0001", "VAX/VMS Troubleshooting", "Ruth Goldenberg", "Revision 0.C". Each page says "*INTERNAL USE ONLY* on top, along with the date. This was obviously a work in progress, as the dates all vary, but they are mostly all from 1985. A few of the pages are loose (the holes tore through), and a few pages have writing, but this is a very clean copy otherwise.

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Apple 1 Replica Kit / board site scrape

by jwstephens_2000＠yahoo.com

This is a scrape of the information from the Apple 1 replica site with a lot of info. ***************************** It is provided as a copy, and is not authorized, so if you want to get the real info, you will have to get to the site for the real deal. I am only copying it here for those who didn't get it to come up due to web traffic issues. I am not associated with the seller at all. ***************************** Welcome to the Replica 1 website. After over a year on this project the final touches are being applied and final beta testing is being done. Please note that the Replica 1 will not come with a keyboard, power supply or monitor. Most standard ps/2 pc keyboards should work as well as most standard AT style pc power supplies. You can use your NTSC compatible monitor like I use, or hook it up to your TV’s video input jack. Feel free to email me with any questions or comments you may have. I will be producing these on a limited production basis. The first set of boards will be available for sale October 11, 2003. Special thanks goes out to Greg Glawitsch for creating the video ATMEGA8 code which made everything possible. Coming soon, cassette interface! Thanks Achim, and Larry! Vince Briel Q: Why don’t you try and make it look like the Apple 1 and use the same parts as the Apple 1. A. Well, the primary reason I’m doing this is because people who own Apple 1’s are afraid to power them up to run their software. By me having a functional clone, they will be able to eventually back up their programs and archive them. In addition, some of the original IC’s are very rare and almost impossible to find. Q: Why don’t you design it to use modern type monitors like VGA? A: By using standard composite monitors or TV’s with composite in it retains the essence of old 8bit computing. Q: Is the video available in both NTSC and PAL? A: Sorry, at this time only NTSC is available. Q: Will all the Apple 1 software work on the Replica? A: In theory, yes. Everything address wise has been left the same. Unfortunately, I don’t have any real software to try out yet. I have run the sample code that Woz wrote in the owner’s manual and they work just as described. Q: Isn’t the Woz Monitor the property of Apple? A: More than likely yes. But Woz was contacted about this and gave his ok. He stated that he handed it out along with his schematics long before there was an Apple computer company. Apple also turned all hardware and software matters over to the Apple 1 club and this project started and is still under the club. Q: I don’t have an ASCII or Apple II keyboard, what do I do? A: One of my last additions to the Replica was to add a microcontroller to interpret a standard PS/2 keyboard. So, you can use either a PS/2 keyboard or an Apple II/II+ keyboard. I did this because it is becoming harder to find ASCII keyboards to use. ********************* I am now taking pre-orders. If you want to reserve a Replica I please email me. mailto: Replica I preorder request/ vbr<<nospamremovethis>>iel(a)yahoo.com The official selling start date is October 11, 2003. The price will be $199 plus shipping. Assembled version $199 plus shipping: What’s included: Replica 1 board fully assembled and tested. Instruction and setup manual Links to Apple 1 sites of interest. Warranty: 30 Day warranty will be given on all boards. Unassembled (kit) version $150 plus shipping: What’s included: Replica 1 board unassembled. Instruction and setup manual for assembled version. Links to Apple 1 sites of interest. Warranty: No warranty given on kits. Bare kit version $99 plus shipping: What’s included: Replica I pcb board video IC and keyboard encoder IC. Instruction and setup manual for assembled version. Links to Apple 1 sites of interest. Warranty: No warranty given on kits.

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9000a pods

by steve.peddle＠sympatico.ca

looking for a 8085 fluke pod..waz wondering if any to sell thanks steve

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(no subject)

by davidmercier＠newengleng.com

I do have pinouts for eeco 9301 if you still need it. David A. Mercier New England Engineering Services 25 West Street Stafford Springs, Ct. 06076 (860) 684-5980 Fax: 684-5982

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DOS 1.0...

by mrevill＠aasb.com.au

Hi, Found your post dated July 28th 2002 on classiccmp.org regarding whether your copy of DOS 1.0 is worth anything. I am just curious to know whether you still own it? Cheers, Mark.

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ENTERPRISE 128 Keyboard matrix repair (Attn Adrian Witchy)

by ATrotsenko＠uosk.com.ua

Has anyone spares for ENTERPRISE 128 computer ? My E128 has corrupted keyboard matrix which I want to exchange. To Adrian Witchy: I saw posting "Enterprise 64 and 128" from May 24, 2003, where You sad that You have factory machinery & returned machines. Can You help ? Best regards, Andy Trotsenko, Ukrainian Security Insurance Co

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PCjr goes for over $150

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/7/2003 11:19:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jrkeys(a)concentric.net writes: Here's a complete unit that sold for $159+ on eBay, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2750719864 I got about half that about 4 years ago from a complete pcjr package deal with some reference books. guess I better email the winner and offer him a pcjr box that I found on the side of the road just last year <?> and a jr monitor still in the box, heh.

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Closet sale - some stuff to go.

by alex＠cmmrboot.uah.edu

Hi, DO you have still this part: SGI - Onyx boards IO4 (030-0646-105) - w/ vcam also SCSI differential, IOADAPT, and SCSI SE How much is it, if you have it ? Thank you Alex -- Dr. Alex Fedoseyev, Center for Microgravity Research, VBRH D-4, University of Alabama in Huntsville, Huntsville, AL 35899, USA Phone : (256) 824-6050 / Fax: (256)824-6944 E-mail: alex(a)uahtitan.uah.edu Web: http://uahtitan.uah.edu/alex/

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DEC Server & DECnet

by dave＠mitton.com

On 9/6/2003 08:45 PM -0500, cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org wrote: >From: "Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini(a)iee.org> >Subject: RE: DEC Server >Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:13:06 +0100 > > > No reason for a correction: it was indeed DECnet and LAT > >BTW: Someone else said that DS100 was the DEC first terminal >server. But the DECSA (PDP-11/24 based) preceded it. (I think >that was code named Pluto; if it wasn't, then there must have >been an even earlier one). Yes, that is correct. The Pluto was originally targeted to be the terminal front-end running CTERM for the Jupiter.... but that didn't happen. LAT was prototyped on one of those VT100s with an LSI-11 in it. >... > > > DECnet (MOP, to be more precise) was used for software download and > > from terminal ports to hosts on the net). LAT is *not* part of DECnet > > (which is often claimed), it's a separate protocol. However, it was > > common to run LAT on a host that also would run DECnet. > >MOP isn't part of DECnet either. Incorrect. Sort of like saying DHCP is not part of the TCP/IP stack, because it doesn't run UDP frames. MOP is the the Maintance Operations Protocol of the DECnet architecture. If you can find the spec (DECnet specs were published), it will say DECnet on it. (I have one in box somewhere) For that matter, LAT, while not developed as part of the traditional DECnet protocol set, but it was sold as a Digital networking product. A marketer would consider LAT part of the "DECnet" product set. (though it was a pure LAN protocol that was proprietary, private, and licensed - all things not done with other DECnet protocols.) Dave.

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