- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by tim＠spiritsphere.com

I picked this disk up the other day knowing almost nothing about mainframe storage methods. I've spent hours upon hours trying to figure out what exactly this is but the closest thing I can get to it is an RL02 removable cartridge disk, but it's not (I think)! I don't see how the same drive could read these since the holes are so much different, but it's the same general idea. I'm not sending attachments, I put them on a site for you to look at, the url is http://www.spiritsphere.com/14inchdisk.html , any and all information you could give me about this disk would be greatly appreciated, I'm still in the dark about it, and have found very little reference at all to CDC ever making a cartridge like this. Thank you! Best Wishes :) Tim

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A/UX 1.1.1

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3080044561&category=1123… Apple A/UX 1.1.1 (internal use only) cd went for $374.99, good price for a rare item that I never seen anywhere else before.

22 years, 5 months

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Linux Box + DOS 3.2 box + (1)5.25 floppy drive (okidata 3305BU) = HELP!!!!!!!!

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

I would not attempt to remove the 5 1/4" drive from the compaq, at least not yet. Someone someplace must have a 5 1/4 DOS disk and simple terminal program like Smart Term that you can use with a modem to download files to your compaq. 1) Maybe you already tried this, but ....After the computer completes the memory check and spins the 5 1/4" diskette drive, just after the drive light stops flashing, hit CTRL+BREAK to halt the autoexec.bat file from initiating the Novell program. You may have to try more than once, but you should be able to break into a DOS prompt of some kind. Next, archive the programs that call the Novell program so that they will not be executed when you boot. 2) type this command at the DOS prompt : copy autoexec.bat autoexec.nov [enter] 3) type this command at the DOS prompt: del autoexec.bat [enter] 4) type this command at the DOS prompt : copy config.sys config.nov [enter] 5) type this command at the DOS prompt: del config.sys [enter] reboot the compaq. should end with a C> prompt only. 6) create a DOS boot disk for the Linux box (oldest OS you can find), and reboot linux box into DOS. 7) you can use the serial ports on both computers to transfer files (via modem or cable). Possibilities: a) There is a program called Laplink that you can use to copy files to the Compaq without using the diskette drive. You'll need a straight-through serial cable, or a parallel cable that's made specially for laplink. Using serial mode only (somehow) laplink can install itself on a target computer (compaq) through the serial port without having to install software via the disk drive. b) You can use Smart Term (or some modem program) to upload and download files from linux computer to the compaq. You'd need two modems and two phone lines. And you'd need a modem program (like smart term) on 5 1/4. you can download smart term to the linux box, and then copy to DOS formatted disks so that when you boot with DOS disk, you can swap out for the smart term disk. What I did for these situations was go to the Good will and find a PC with both 5 1/4 and 3.5" drives. Very useful! Every vintage computer hacker needs a system with multiple drive types. >Hey y'all... I need some help. I recently acquired a Compaq Portable(ye right... at 35LBS no one is crazy enough to carry this machine >around) II... with a hard drive and a 5.25 floppy disk drive. The hard drive apparently has MSDOS 3.2 and some Novell application. When >booted up it first checks the memory then it checks active partions... then it starts going in some kinda loop looking for a file server that >isn't there. I don't have any other 5.25 floppy drives so I am unable to create disks to transfer files to this box. I was wondering if it was >possible to connect the floppy drive to my linux box and copy the files to the disk(s) from there and retransfer the drive to the compaq to >use. Problem is that the Linux box is an RH9 platform on a PII (686) system. Would RH9 even have the needed drivers for a drive this >ancient? Can this be done or am I, for all intensive purposes, screwed? >Lyos Gemini Norezel

22 years, 5 months

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[OT] Strange/Help

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Yup. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Patrick Rigney Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 3:03 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: [OT] Strange/Help Is anyone able to open http://java.sun.com/?

22 years, 5 months

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Various Apples available in northern California

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, Got this mail in from Jo Ann Pryor who has a bundle of stuff available. Please contact her directly if you're interested :) --------------------- Jo Ann Pryor (wjpryor(a)sunset.net) on March 2nd, 2004 at 03:33AM (GMT). Former elementary teacher that has an Apple III, and Apple IIe (128k), epson MX80 printer, Brothers HP 15 and tons of software, all manuals, computer magazines, extra cards in both machines. ---------------------- Cheers -- Adrian/Witchy Owner & Webmaster, Binary Dinosaurs www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(

22 years, 5 months

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is anyone on the list using Adobe Acrobat?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I'm considering buying a copy and I'd like to talk to anyone that's used it to scan documents. I have questions about what features are in the different versions and what scanner interfaces are supported in the different versions. Joe

22 years, 5 months

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ryan-McFarland BASIC?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Today I got two boxs of old Intel computer manuals that a friend of mine dug up in Vermont. In one of the manuals are some brochures for Ryan-McFarland BASIC. I've never heard of RM BASIC for any system before. Anybody know anything about it? Joe

22 years, 5 months

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CFX-40

by m.gro＠bluemail.ch

Hi Do you still have Casio CFX-40 for sale? What is your price for a new unused one? Yours m.gro

22 years, 5 months

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Looking for various manuals ($$$)

by trash3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

All I've got is Reachout Pro, version 4.1, sorry. Joe Heck

22 years, 5 months

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PING Zane Healy

by jpl15＠panix.com

Yo Zane: I just got some rather bizarre e-mail from you personally, which I don't think you sent - but *something* posing as you did.. Best look to your System, and the Security thereof... Email me off list for a description... It was amusing, in a surreal sort of way. ;} Cheers John

22 years, 5 months

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Looking for various manuals ($$$)

by vcf＠siconic.com

Ok, new bounties. I'm offering $20 each for the below manuals. - Switchback User Guide, Apex PC Solutions, 1995 - 8001/ KVM Users Guide, Apex PC Solutions, Date Unknown - Reachout: Remote Conrol for Windows and DOS, User Guide Version 2.1, Ocean Isle Software, Revised July 2, 1992 - Addendum I to User's Manual for MasterNet Version 2.00, Rose Electronics, Revision A, Date Unknown - General Instrument 2750R Satellite Receiver User's Guide 2700 Series, Publication No 72089-1, Rev. C, Apr. 1990 If you've got these then please contact me in private e-mail. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 5 months

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DEC RW 500

by pietstan＠rogers.com

I've got a DEC RW500 optical disk libray that I'm confused about.... The machine powers up, passes self tests, loads and unloads media, but I can't get the scsi controller in my peecee to recognize any media in it. I've tried the original drive that came in the box, as well as an HP versioned drive, as well as DEC labelled media, HP labelled media, and some other brands. It seems like the drive starts to spin the media, but it stops after a few seconds.... Is there a trick to this, or do I have a couple of dead drives?

22 years, 5 months

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Advert alert - HP 8451A including rare 98155A keyboard

by john_a_s2004＠hotmail.com

Hi, I came across the following advert: http://www.irjohnston.com/HP_spectrophotometer.html for a HP 8451A Spectrophotometer which includes the rare 98155A keyboard. This machine is based on the HP-85A / 85B (or both!) and the ad has some nice photos of the complete set up, including the keyboard which HP-9915A owners seem to be desperate to get their hands on. This looks like an expensive way of buying a keyboard though.... BTW the photos are dated October 2003 so this may have sold by now. Perhaps suppliers of 8451As might have a spare keyboard from a dead unit knocking around, I would not like to ask all the 100's of suppliers of surplus lab equipment though! Regards, John

22 years, 5 months

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[VAX] KFQSA deaded

by meltie＠microvax.org

>> > P1=200002C0 P2=00000000 P3=30040000 P4=00000000 P5=00000000 >> > P6=00000000 P7=00000000 P8=00000000 P9=00000000 P10=00000000 >> > r0=00000054 r1=200001BF r2=00000000 r3=20140000 r4=200560E8 >> > r5=20056124 r6=20063ACB r7=200002C0 r8=00000008 EPC=00000000 >> > 04..03.. Normal operation not possible. >> > >> > >>> >> >> This looks like you don't have any terminators on the card. Yep, it's a naked card at the moment. > Quite *why* the KZQSA code in the console behaves this way, > I do not know. I've booted plenty of MicroVAX 3100s with > missing terminators on the SCSI bus and never had a problem. Tell me about it - "normal operation is not possible"? Well, no, because you've gone and halt'ed the CPU because you're so self-important. I don't *need* the SCSI bus operational to bring up the CPU and boot varios OSes. Silly firmware. Slapped wrist. Thanks guys :) alex/melt

22 years, 5 months

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Apple IIc

by cb＠mythtech.net

>DO NOT USE ANYTHING BUT THE FACTORY ORIGINAL POWER SUPPLY. >If you use anything else, then you will be writing to this >list about the machine no longer working. That sounds like the voice of experience. Is there a particular reason someone can't roll their own power supply? Did Apple do something funky with it that isn't easily determined? (Gee, 'cause that would be SOOO unlike Apple to do, wouldn't it!). Being an Apple fan, I'm just curious for details. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 5 months

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STR LINK

by Les.Coombes＠csplc.com

Hi, I picked up part of a thread about a STR-LINK 11 by Jack Gershon I am trying to find out how the system hand shaking, protocol etc works ....... any ideas or info ? Regards Les ************************************************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee or if you have received the e-mail in error, it may be unlawful for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information which it contains. Under these circumstances, please notify us immediately by returning this mail to 'mailerror(a)csplc.com' and deleting this e-mail from your system. Any views expressed by an individual within this e-mail do not necessarily reflect the views of Cadbury Schweppes Plc or its subsidiaries. Cadbury Schweppes Plc will not be bound by any agreement entered into as a result of this email, unless its intention is clearly evidenced in the body of the email. Whilst we have taken reasonable steps to ensure that this e-mail and attachments are free from viruses, recipients are advised to subject this mail to their own virus checking, in keeping with good computing practice. Please note that email received by Cadbury Schweppes Plc or its subsidiaries may be monitored in accordance with the prevailing law in the United Kingdom. **************************************************************************************

22 years, 5 months

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CS-600HD cassette tapes

by cb＠mythtech.net

I've got a box of 10- CS-600HD cassette tapes (Maxell brand). They are for a cassette tape backup drive. I bought them from another list member only to find that the specs I found on my drive neglected to point out that of the list of tapes it's compatible with, it can only WRITE to one particular tape, and this one ain't it. So I'm about to toss them in the trash. If anyone wants them, speak now or forever hold your piece (sic. for the gun toting people on this list :-) I'll let them sit on my desk until Friday the 6th. After that, they hit the trash. The box weighs about 2 lbs, shipped from 07450 (figure about $6.00 to do priority mail to the west coast, less if you are closer to the east). Covering postage is all I ask, although if you want to give me more, I won't complain. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 5 months

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Here's a weird one (kinda OT)

by vcf＠siconic.com

I have a 3Com 3C509B-TPO (16-bit network adapter) in a 486 PC running in DOS 6.22. All the drivers are loaded and working and I can connect up to my Win2000 box and mount its volumes locally. All good. But when I try to transfer large files the DOS system invariably locks up. I have to do a cold boot. I played around with the BIOS, disabling one feature at a time until I found the culprit. Once I disabled the Internal CPU cache then things worked fine. So my question is, why? 3Com's 3C509B FAQ didn't address this issue and I couldn't find anything >from Google. I don't expect an answer really. This is one of those problems that only occurs to one unlucky person somewhere in the world at the worst possible moment. Fortunately I can move files but it would be nice to know what might be the problem if there is a solution. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 5 months

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Priam 3450-10 Hard Drive

by hirschopd＠msn.com

Anyone out there have a Priam 3450-10 30MB Hard Drive? Paul Hirsch _________________________________________________________________ Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide. http://special.msn.com/home/firsthome.armx

22 years, 5 months

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Nice 19" rackmount chassis with integrated VGA CRT

by vcf＠siconic.com

I'm wanting to unload this fine 19" rackmount cabinet with a built in 9" VGA (SVGA?) CRT. Unfortunately, something is definitely wrong with the CRT. It runs very hot, even when not turned on. There might be a short somewhere (it might even be on the yolk as there are some lead wires from the yolk touching itself where it doesn't look like it should). I was smelling some magic smoke earlier, so something is surely amiss. I wish I knew what or I'd fix it. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time. But it's a nice chassis and I'd hate to junk it. It includes a P-90 motherboard with 3 ISA and 3 PCI slots. I'll max out the RAM. It has a 540MB hard drive as well. http://www.siconic.com/computers/crt-chassis-1.JPG http://www.siconic.com/computers/crt-chassis-2.JPG Does anyone want to make an offer? I'm not expecting much. You could probably repair or replace the CRT with enough ambition. Would make for a very nice compact rack server. Shipping would be 45 pounds from ZIP code 94550. Figure about $35 shipping worst case. E-mail me if interested. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 5 months

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ebay question

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I'm bidding on an item, and I'm pretty sure the seller has another (0 feedback) account and is bidding up the price. I don't see any spot on ebays website where I can raise this issue. Is there someone I can bring this issue to there? Anyone have any thoughts on this? Please reply off-list Jay --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

22 years, 5 months

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Kaypro Computer available near New Haven, Connecticut

by vcf＠siconic.com

See below. Reply-to: higbe25(a)comcast.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:55:36 -0500 From: Debbie Ferrucci <higbe25(a)comcast.net> To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> Subject: RE: Kaypro Computer Connecticut, outside of New Haven. Let me know. Mike Ferrucci -----Original Message----- From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@siconic.com] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 5:36 PM To: Debbie Ferrucci Subject: Re: Kaypro Computer On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Debbie Ferrucci wrote: > I've got an old Kaypro Computer that I'm going to throw away. Do you know > anybody who would want it? I'll send it to anybody who will pay the > postage. I used it until the day my PC arrived, at which point the Kaypro > screen started to roll and I've never touched it again. I think I have all > the manuals and software disks as well. Hi Mike. I'd sure like to find someone who will want it. Can you tell me where you are? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 5 months

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Kaypro systems available - Bay Area pickup only

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

A friend asked me to post this link: http://www.codesmart.com/stuff/kaypros.html The short of it is a Kaypro II and a Kaypro 4 with a Kaypro Printer are available in the Bay Area. Pickup only. Other then knowing the seller, I have nothing to do with these items. Best of luck! Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum The Vintage Computer Forum

22 years, 6 months

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HP Integral I/O cards

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

Does anybody here have an HP Integral with the RS232, current loop, or GPIO cards in it? I realise I'm never going to find these cards for sale (at least not at a price I can afford), but I'd like to know what the chips on them were to see if it's possible to make some equivalent. So if you have those cards, could you tell me the numbers on the chips. -tony

22 years, 6 months

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Other fun stuff...

by auringer＠tds.net

Howdy, I am getting more cleaning done than expected. I found the following items that I wish to find new homes for. (3) Three hard plastic "Library Cases" for 8" floppy disks. Two are plain black, and the third is tan with a BASF label on it. Inside I found an 8" floppy of Sorcim SuperCalc 2 version 1 for the IBM 3740 / CPM 2.x / Intel 8080. The copyright date is 1983. Also in the box, Computronics "Business Pac 100" CP/M version on two 8" floppies. Less interesting are 9 8" floppies with a variety of insurance company proposal programs on them. I also have a half-full box of unused OEI brand (M5081) punch cards. Any offers? Jon Jon Auringer auringer(a)tds.net

22 years, 6 months

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Linux Box + DOS 3.2 box + (1)5.25 floppy drive (okidata 3305BU) = HELP!!!!!!!!

by sastevens＠earthlink.net

At 12:00 PM 2/29/2004 -0600, you wrote: >Hey, to the person that buys a laptop without a keyboard or screen for >$75, I've got an old 5.25" floppy disk drive that doesn't read or write >for $25. Well, I can top what everybody is offering here. I have a laptop that has no keyboard (pulled and put on another laptop.) It also has a cracked LCD, which actually still 'works' though the way it switches from positive to negative image on sections of the lcd display is kinda surreal. Also, it only has 4 megs of RAM, it has no hard drive, and it's a 486. But I remember when I couldn't afford a 486 so maybe it's still a good deal. My 8088 Zenith Supersport and my IBM PC Convertable (one with ALL 640K of RAM, which is a rarity) are the better choices, collection-wise. My Model 100's rule, of course.

22 years, 6 months

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WordStar for NorthStar manual available

by auringer＠tds.net

Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > Hi Jon. > > I'll take it. My address is: Sorry, someone else had a quicker trigger finger. The manual is spoken for. Jon

22 years, 6 months

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IDC (Re: Archive 5945C)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 26, 13:43, Paul Koning wrote: > >>>>> "Jay" == Jay West <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> writes: > > Jay> I once ran across an article stating the "expected life" of IDC > Jay> ribbon cable connections. It was suprisingly low, like 64 > Jay> connect/disconnect lifespan. > > That's about 63 more than I would expect. Those things really are not > meant to be reused. Jay is not talking about fitting the ribbon cable to the connector, but to connecting/disconnecting it to its mating connector. Class 3 conectors are rated for about that many mating cycles, Class 2 for 3 to 5 times that, and Class 1 for upwards of 400 cycles. You might be surprised to know that the figures are about the same for many other types of small multipole connectors. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 6 months

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WordStar for NorthStar manual available

by auringer＠tds.net

Hello, Anyone interested in an original manual for Wordstar on the NorthStar Horizon/Advantage? The sections are marked "First Issue: May 15, 1981". If there is no interest, it goes in the dumpster. Jon Jon Auringer auringer(a)tds.net

22 years, 6 months

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OT: Santa Barbara

by transit＠lerctr.org

> Yup, but we can still fight. I just found out it is against the Santa > Barbara city ordinance to park in your own driveway more than 48 hours > as they then consider it to be storage. These people are insane!!! > Did they ever pass that law requiring RV's to be registered with the rent control board (They were talking about it in 1986-7 or so, when I graduated from UCSB).... The political ad was rather funny: http://laradio.lerctr.org/rv/measureb.mp3

22 years, 6 months

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prices...

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

does anyone keep track of real-world prices for old machines? I get the impression from past list traffic that there are price guides available for classic computers but they're next to useless anyway. I have a few odds and ends which don't fit into the current collection that I might want to part with, but have no idea what they're realistically worth. I'm used to giving stuff away, not selling it :) Do ebay or any other sales sites allow you to look at prices fetched for past items to give a rough guideline? cheers Jules

22 years, 6 months

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Zortech C++ compiler

by vcf＠siconic.com

The Zortech C++ compiler was one of the very first C++ compilers developed in the mid- to late-1980s. I'm looking for a copy for a friend who's writing a book (and also so the creator of Zortech C++ can have his own copy since he never held onto his own!) Zortech C++ was licensed to Symantec and became their C++ compiler. Does anyone have a copy of Zortech C++? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 6 months

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VCF Gazette Volume 2 Number 2

by vcf＠siconic.com

VCF Gazette Volume 2, Issue 2 A Newsletter for the Vintage Computer Festival February 27, 2004 After an unduly long interval, here's the latest news from the Vintage Computer Festival... Vintage Computer Festival 6.0 Wrap-Up VCF 6.0 Exhibit Awards VCF 6.0 Retro-Code Video Game Programming Challenge Wrap-Up Vintage Computer Festival East 2.0 Vintage Computer Festival Europa 5.0 Vintage Computer Marketplace Hits Milestone VCF Organization Party VCF Producer Sellam Ismail on TechTV's Screen Savers March 17 Just a quick note to point out the beginning of our VCF organization parties, with the first being held on Saturday, March 6. Read on for more information. Also, please check out our new donation page on the VCF website. The VCF is running low on funds to produce future events so any help you might be able to give right now in the form of a cash contribution would be greatly appreciated and rewarded with goodies. For more information, see: http://www.vintage.org/donate.php Vintage Computer Festival 6.0 Wrap-Up ------------------------------------- VCF 6.0 was a phenomenal success! Thanks to the help of the Computer History Museum (the sponsors of the event for a second year in a row) we were able to achieve our goal of 500 attendees...and then some! Actual attendance was almost 550, beating our peak attendance record of about 450 at VCF 4.0 in 2000. VCF 6.0 featured more speakers than at any previous event, with 19 speakers in 12 conferences across 2 tracks over 2 days. We had 28 exhibitors displaying nearly 70 computers, from micros to minis to mainframes, plus rare prototypes, early PDAs, video game systems, and more. VCF 6.0 also featured the Retro-Code Video Game Programming Challenge. Three teams had three hours to write a video game from scratch. The teams worked on three computers pre-arranged by the VCF: an Apple //e, an Atari 800, and a Commodore 64. Each team turned in fantastic efforts. More on this below. Throughout the VCF weekend, the Computer History Museum held tours of its Visible Storage exhibits which allowed VCF visitors to experience a "walk through computer history". The highlight of VCF 6.0 was the Xerox Alto panel featuring Xerox Palo Alto Research Center alumni John Ellenby, Dave Robson, Peter Deutsch, and Charles Simonyi. The panel was moderated by Bruce Damer of the DigiBarn. Each panelist took their turn recounting their personal histories at PARC during the 1970s when the Alto was being developed. After the session, everyone in attendance was invited to join the panelists in wishing the Alto a happy 30th anniversary. A yummy cake bearing a photo of the Alto was served up. We've put together a photo gallery of VCF 6.0 here: http://www.vintage.org/gallery.php?grouptag=VCF60 And Bruce Damer has a fantastic VCF 6.0 overview on the DigiBarn website, including audio and video of the Alto panel and festivities: http://www.digibarn.com/history/03-10-VCF6/index.html Overall, VCF 6.0 was probably the best VCF event of all time. We'll be back again later this year to try to top it. I hope to see you there! Of course, the VCF could not have been the success it was without the terrific help of the Computer History Museum and their tremendous bunch of volunteers that turned out to help in the shadows. I thank each of the following people who volunteered their time either conducting tours of the Visible Storage area for VCF attendees or handling various VCF tasks: Remi Arnaud Dave Babcock Lee Courtney Bob Fraley Bill Goldberg Eli Goldberg John Green Tom Halfhill Peter Hamm Peter Jennings Tracy King Gail Lampert David Laws Frank Lemmon Jim Manley Julie Neff Randy Neff Dan Orsen Ray Peck Rafael Skodlar Randy Sloan Wolfgang Schaechter Tony Sumpter Fred Ware Texx Woodworth Warren Yogi Thanks also to Liza Loop and friends for helping with the setup on Friday, and everyone else who helped out that day (I just can't remember you all but thanks all the same). Special thanks to Alex Bochannek for once again doing a splendid job organizing the VCF Exhibits and heading up the judging team, and equal thanks to Lee Felsenstein and Dag Spicer for continuing their tradition as the stalwart VCF Exhibition judges. Also thanks to Stan Sieler for filling in as an alternate judge. Super special thanks to Roger Sinasohn for providing all the yummy treats and beverages, and especially for helping me out in a pinch on so many occasions. On that note, business owners might want to check out the services Roger provides at TechSynthesis: http://www.techsynthesis.com/ Extra special thanks to Bruce Damer and Galen Brandt for organizing the Xerox Alto panel and birthday bash. Of course, thanks to all the Speakers, Exhibitors and Vendors who helped to make the VCF what it is. I would like to extend a warm thanks in particular to Pam Cleveland and Jennifer Cheng, who coordinate CHM events, and Mike Walton, who handles all the technical concerns, plus all the CHM staff. They were fantastic! And finally, a heartfelt thanks to John Toole and Dag Spicer, truly friends of the Vintage Computer Festival. VCF 6.0 Exhibit Awards ---------------------- We can proclaim with much confidence that this year's exhibit at the Vintage Computer Festival was the best ever. Dozens of vintage computer enthusiasts from all over converged in the Hahn Auditorium of the Computer History Museum to put on some amazing displays. The bar has certainly been raised for future exhibits. Exhibits are graded by our panel of judges, which comprises head judge Alex Bochannek, Computer History Museum Curator of Exhibits Dag Spicer, and legendary computer industry maven Lee Felsenstein. The judges then tabulate their results and assign 1st, 2nd and 3rd place ribbons in each of five general award classes, and additional Special Award ribbons in each of 11 special categories. Finally, the People's Choice Award is a special ribbon given to the exhibit that garners the most votes from VCF attendees. Class Awards First, Second and Third Place ribbons are awarded in each of five classes that represent major areas of effort in computer collecting and preservation. Judging is based on a set of criteria including: appearance, condition, originality, authenticity, completeness, and functionality. Additional judging takes into account the breadth of the exhibit by assessing the inclusion of documentation and software. Herewith, we are proud to present the winners of this year's Vintage Computer Festival Exhibition: Class A: Homebrew, Kit or Educational Computer - Any Vintage 1st Place: Bryan Blackburn - Mark-8 2nd Place: Erik Klein - Altair 8800 3rd Place: Larry Pezzolo - Altair 680 Class B: Manufactured Personal Computer - Pre-1981 1st Place: Bryan Blackburn - the digital group 2nd Place: Erik Klein - Commodore PET 3rd Place: Erik Klein - TRS-80 Model 1 Class C: Manufactured Personal Computer - Post-1981 1st Place: Cameron Kaiser - Tomy Tutor/Tomy Pyuuta 2nd Place: Wayne Smith - IBM System/23 3rd Place: Jordan Ruderman - Apple Lisa Class D: Mini-computer or Larger System - Any Vintage 1st Place: Stephen Jones - AT&T 3B2/500 2nd Place: Jim Battle - Wang 2200 3rd Place: Pavl Zachary - DEC PDP 11/70 Class E: Open 1st Place: Vince Briel - "Replica I" Apple-1 Replica 2nd Place: Tim Lindner - Modern Intellivision 3rd Place: Jordan Ruderman - Apple eMate 300 Special Awards Special Awards are given to exhibits based on various practical and esthetic criteria. These accolades are meant to award exhibits that advance the state of computer collecting and preservation. Herewith, we are proud to present the Special Award recipients: Best Presentation: Research Larry Anderson - Commodore 8-bit Breadboxes Best Presentation: Completeness Cameron Kaiser - Tomy Tutor/Tomy Pyuuta Best Presentation: Display Bryan Blackburn - Mark-8 Best Presentation: Creative Integration with Contemporary Technology Bill Borsari - Amiga 4000 Best Preservation: Original Condition Cameron Kaiser - Tomy Tutor/Tomy Pyuuta Best Preservation: Restoration Bryan Blackburn - Mark-8 Best Preservation: Recreation Vince Briel - "Replica I" Apple-1 Replica Best Preservation: Simulation Jim Battle - Wang 2200 Emulator Best Preservation: Obscurity Chuck McManis - DEC PDP-5 Best of Show The Best of Show award determines, based on all previous judging and awards, which exhibit deserves to be singled out for special recognition. The VCF 6.0 Best of Show award went to Bryan Blackburn for his Mark-8 exhibit. Congratulations, Bryan! People's Choice Award Finally, the People's Choice Award taps into the pulse of the VCF crowd. Attendees are encouraged to submit a ballot naming their favorite exhibit of the show. The exhibit that attracted the most votes this year was Pavl Zachary's DEC PDP 11/70. Pavl (pronounced "Paul" but just spelled with a 'v' because what the hell) spent hours putting together an exhibit worthy of the most high brow trade shows. Pavl created a DEC backdrop that stood at least 7 feet tall and spanned 20 feet. Each letter of the "digital" logo was hand crafted and meticulously placed, creating a display that was right out of the heyday of the DEC we once knew and loved. Pavl's effort will surely be difficult to rival at future VCF events. I would like to congratulate ALL VCF exhibitors this year for helping to make it the best VCF exhibition yet! To see pictures of the VCF exhibitors and their machines, check out the VCF 6.0 photo gallery: http://www.vintage.org/gallery.php?grouptag=VCF60 VCF 6.0 Retro-Code Video Game Programming Challenge --------------------------------------------------- The Retro-Code Video Game Programming Challenge is a fairly new feature of the VCF. We attempted it at VCF 5.0 with mixed results, but we managed to pull it off this year and had a lot of fun! The goal of the Challenge is to program a video game from scratch on a vintage computer within 3 hours. The computer platforms, provided by the VCF, were an Apple //e, an Atari 800, and a Commodore 64. Three teams chosen from volunteers were assembled and the coding began! (In the end we couldn't get an Atari team so we ended up with two separate Apple teams). Team Apple A, comprised of Hans Franke and Eric Smith working in tandem, designed a nice maze-based role playing game. In the beginning of the game, a player rolled virtual dice (portrayed on the screen using the Apple's low resolution graphics capabilities) to determine their game character's attributes. A maze was then randomly generated and it was the player's goal to traverse the maze, gathering treasure and riches along the way while meeting all manner of evil and strange creatures that would have to be defended against. Team Commodore, comprised of Larry Anderson, developed a fantastic effort that put the player at the helm of a shopping cart in a thrift store where vintage computers were flying off the shelves and the player was required to collect as many of these computers in their shopping cart as possible. If too many computers fell to the ground and were destroyed, the player was banished from the thrift store! Larry's game employed the Commodore 64's built-in graphics sprites to render the shopping cart and vintage computers. Team Apple B was comprised of Lawrence Wilkinson who developed a nice implementation of the strategy game Hex. Larry utilized the Apple //e's high resolution graphics screen to render the Hex playing field (in 3D no less!) and used the joystick for player piece movement. He even gave the computer a simple intelligence to allow for human vs. computer play. When the three hour programming period was up, the teams were required to put their keyboards down and the judging commenced. Each team was required to demo their game to the assembled crowd, after which a hand vote was taken from the amassed spectators and a winner was chosen. Larry Anderson took 1st Place, followed by Hans Franke and Eric Smith, with Lawrence Wilkinson bringing up the rear. It was a really fun event and we're planning to expand it for VCF 7.0. Got an idea for a game? Can you write it, from scratch, in only three hours? Then come to VCF 7.0 and show your stuff! More information to come so stay tuned. Vintage Computer Festival East 2.0 ---------------------------------- VCF East 2.0 is still in the planning stages, and much progress is being made. We had hoped to hold the event sometime in April of this year, but due to several unforeseen circumstances we've decided to move the event back to sometime in June or July. We're almost ready to announce exact dates and a location (near Boston, Massachusetts), but first we need to dot some t's and cross some i's so stay tuned for further updates. So far, confirmed speakers are: o Bob Supnik, creator of the wonderful Computer History Simulation Project featuring SIMH, a universal computer simulation engine with support for dozens of vintage computer models from the DEC PDP-1 to the PDP-15 and more o Jon Titus, creator of the legendary Mark-8, one of the earliest microcomputer kits, featured in the July 1974 issue of Radio Electronics Have you got any suggestions or recommendations for speakers? By all means, please do contact us and let us know. We are planning to have a full line-up of speakers at VCF East 2.0. This would also be a good time to visit the VCF East 2.0 web page and sign up as an exhibitor: http://www.vintage.org/2004/east/exhibit.php And we've still got plenty of room for vendors: http://www.vintage.org/2004/east/vendor.php VCF East 2.0 updates will be forthcoming throughout the following weeks so be on the lookout for further announcements. Vintage Computer Festival Europa 5.0 ------------------------------------ Hans Franke is proud to bring you version 5.0 of the Vintage Computer Festival Europa. Hans has been working hard to make this year's event the best yet. The theme for VCF Europa 5.0 is User Interfaces. Exhibits and talks will focus on the human computer interface from keypunch machines to the mouse. For more information, please visit the VCF Europa website: http://www.vcfe.org/ Vintage Computer Marketplace: Phase Two --------------------------------------- The Vintage Computer Marketplace registered its 500th user sometime in December, which was a significant milestone. Since then, new users have continued to register and the current registered user count is nearing 700. We're hard at work to roll out the next release of the Marketplace software, which will add more features and options. We'll also begin to roll out our premium features which will allow you to more efficiently and effectively find those odd old computer bits you've been seeking for a while, and help you sell or trade items in your own collection. With these new features in place, we'll also be rolling out the next phase of our marketing campaign. The beta test phase is effectively over and has demonstrated that the software can handle the load of thousands of listings, so we'll be embarking on a program over the course of the next couple months to get more and more people to use the VCM to buy, sell and trade their vintage computing items instead of other services. We'll be putting into place several different types of incentives to make it the preferred marketplace on the web for vintage computers. It has been and will remain more profitable to use the VCM to sell than with other services, and for buyers we've got much better deals with much more friendly tools and a support staff that actually addresses complaints, suggestions and issues. A separate Vintage Computer Marketplace update will be coming out soon to notify you of the initiation of the new phase. In the meantime, check out the site if you haven't visited in a while and see the great items that are currently listed: http://marketplace.vintage.org VCF Organization Party ---------------------- The VCF will begin holding volunteer weekend organizations parties to accelerate the organization and cataloguing of the Vintage Computer Festival Archives. We'll be working towards getting the VCF Archives ready for the long promised Open House. We've got shelving to assemble, documents to sort, artifacts to box, books to catalog, machines to schlep, etc. The goal is to have the Archives ready to host an after-school computer and electronics lab for the local community before school lets out into summer recess. At that time, we also plan to begin hosting monthly computer collector meetings for vintage computer collectors in the Silicon Valley to gather and share experiences and information and trade computers (we'll have more on this in the next Gazette). Volunteers will be rewarded with free passes to the VCF, VCF T-shirts, and other goodies. Your contribution to this effort will be much appreciated and will help to finally make the VCF Archives fully organized and therefore more accessible to the vintage computer community. The first volunteer party will be March 6. We'll be starting at 10:00am and going until at least 5:00pm, at which point the party begins. We'll have music, food, and fun baby! If you're interested in being part of the shindig, please RSVP by Friday, March 5, via e-mail to Sellam Ismail at <sellam(a)vintage.org>. The VCF headquarters is located in Livermore, California, so obviously only those local to the Silicon Valley area will be able to participate, but we won't stop anyone from flying in to lend a helping hand :) VCF Producer Sellam Ismail on TechTV's Screen Savers March 17 ------------------------------------------------------------- The VCF's Sellam Ismail will be appearing on TechTV's "The Screen Savers" program on March 17th. Sellam will be bringing along old computer media for show and tell. This will be Sellam's third appearance on The Screen Savers. Check your local listings for air times. That wraps it up for this issue of the VCF Gazette! Until next time... Best regards, Sellam Ismail Producer Vintage Computer Festival http://www.vintage.org/ The Vintage Computer Festival is a celebration of computers and their history. The VCF Gazette goes out to anyone who subscribed to the VCF mailing list, and is intended to keep those interested in the VCF informed of the latest VCF events and happenings. The VCF Gazette is guaranteed to be published in a somewhat irregular manner, though we will try to maintain a quarterly schedule. If you would like to be removed from the VCF mailing list, and therefore not receive any more issues of the VCF Gazette, visit the following web page: http://www.vintage.org/remove.php ;) -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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86/330 Problem(s)

by hirschopd＠msn.com

Joe R. Thanks, I will check it out. Paul >From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic >Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" ><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: 86/330 Problem(s) >Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 12:27:28 -0500 > >At 02:27 AM 2/28/04 +0000, you wrote: > >Joe, > >do you have part numbers on the booards you have? > >Paul Hirsch > > > Here is a link to a Multibus webpage that I've been working on. ><http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/multibus/multibus.html>. MOST of the cards >that I have are listed there along with descriptions, part numbers and >pictures. It's still a work in progress so there are some missing bits and >pieces and I still have a stack of cards to add to it. It seems like >everytime I turn over a rock around here I find more Multibus stuff :-) > > FWIW I gutted* four Intel 86/330s a couple of years ago so I have all >the >cards for them. > > *Before anyone complains about me gutting vintage systems I'd like to >point out that these had had the hard drives removed before I got them and >I didn't have any Sw or docs for them and that I spent several months >trying to track down the stuff before I gave up and stripped them. I posted >several requests on this list and didn't get a single reply. > > Joe > > > > > > > >>From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >>Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic > >>Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > >>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > >><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > >>Subject: Re: 86/330 Problem(s) > >>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:17:09 -0500 > >> > >>At 02:28 PM 2/27/04 -0800, you wrote: > >> >On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Paul Hirsch wrote: > >> > > >> >> We have an 86/330 that will not boot. We are using the RMX 5.1 > >>Operating > >> >> System. Following power on we compete the SCT Test and begin >booting > >>and > >> >> get a "Divide overflow occured". We have replaced the 8086 >procrsser, > >>the > >> >> 8087 coprocessor and the memory boards. At this point we are out of > >>options > >> >> unless it is the cpu board (144548-003 Rev C). 1) if any one has >any > >>advice > >> >> I would appreciate it, or if anyone has a board or computer that >they > >>would > >> >> like to sell. > >> > > >> >Sounds like a software problem. > >> > > >> >What's an 86/330? > >> > >> Sounds like an Intel 86/330 computer (8086 CPU Multibus system). I >have > >>parts for them and I've already replied to him. > >> > >> Joe > >> > >> > > >> >-- > >> > > >> >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer > >>Festival > >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>--- > >> >International Man of Intrigue and Danger > >>http://www.vintage.org > >> > > >> >[ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage > >>Computers > >> ] > >> >[ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at > >>http://marketplace.vintage.org ] > >> > > >> > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Watch high-quality video with fast playback at MSN Video. Free! > >http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200365ave/direct/01/ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Find and compare great deals on Broadband access at the MSN High-Speed Marketplace. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/

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OHIO-DOS

by Edzard＠kolks.nl

Hello to all, I'm looking for information on the OHIO-DOS system. Has anyone some sources, programs or historic info on this OS for the 6502? Right now I'm rebuilding an 65816 system (EC65K) which was published in 1986 by Elektuur/Elektor and was running OHIO DOS 65D V3.2. Thanks, Regards, Edzard Kolks

22 years, 6 months

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Drive Error on VS4000/VLC - "84 FAIL"

by list＠saracom.com

Hello, I am attempting to install NetBSD on a VS4000/VLC. I am getting write errors when I try. So attempted to format the drive via the console: First: T/UT 10 Next choose erase hd: option 3 Enter ID and LUN Remember to type OK at the OK prompt and not y! My problem is it does not finish sucessfully. I get an "84 FAIL" error. Is there any solution or is it new drive time? I was hoping to be asking NETBSD questions. Thanks Max

22 years, 6 months

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86/330 Problem(s)

by hirschopd＠msn.com

Joe, do you have part numbers on the booards you have? Paul Hirsch >From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic >Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" ><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: 86/330 Problem(s) >Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:17:09 -0500 > >At 02:28 PM 2/27/04 -0800, you wrote: > >On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Paul Hirsch wrote: > > > >> We have an 86/330 that will not boot. We are using the RMX 5.1 >Operating > >> System. Following power on we compete the SCT Test and begin booting >and > >> get a "Divide overflow occured". We have replaced the 8086 procrsser, >the > >> 8087 coprocessor and the memory boards. At this point we are out of >options > >> unless it is the cpu board (144548-003 Rev C). 1) if any one has any >advice > >> I would appreciate it, or if anyone has a board or computer that they >would > >> like to sell. > > > >Sounds like a software problem. > > > >What's an 86/330? > > Sounds like an Intel 86/330 computer (8086 CPU Multibus system). I have >parts for them and I've already replied to him. > > Joe > > > > >-- > > > >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer >Festival > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- > >International Man of Intrigue and Danger >http://www.vintage.org > > > >[ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage >Computers > ] > >[ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at >http://marketplace.vintage.org ] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Watch high-quality video with fast playback at MSN Video. Free! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200365ave/direct/01/

22 years, 6 months

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84 Error when attempting to Format drive on VS4000/VLC

by order＠saracom.com

Well I found out how to do it: First: T/UT 10 Next choose erase hd: option 3 Enter ID and LUN Remember to type OK at the OK prompt and not y! My problem is it does not finish sucessfully. I get an "84 FAIL" error. Is there any solution or is it new drive time? Thanks Max

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SCSI Zip 100 external drives...any interest?

by john_boffemmyer_iv＠boff-net.dhs.org

If he doesn't, I have a few I could spare. Shipping is like 10oz for 3 I think, from 12550. -John Boffemmyer IV At 11:41 PM 2/27/2004, you wrote: > I will take 2. Do you have ant disks to go with em..... > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org > >>> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Vintage > >>> Computer Festival > >>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:16 PM > >>> To: Classic Computers Mailing List; Classic Computers > >>> Mailing List; Bay Area Computer Collector List > >>> Subject: SCSI Zip 100 external drives...any interest? > >>> > >>> > >>> I've got a number of Iomega 100MB SCSI External Zip drives > >>> with power supply and cable. Any interest at $10 each + shipping? > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Sellam Ismail > >>> Vintage Computer Festival > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> ------------------ > >>> International Man of Intrigue and Danger > >>> http://www.vintage.org > >>> > >>> [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade > >>> Vintage Computers ] > >>> [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at > >>> http://marketplace.vintage.org ] > >>> ---------------------------------------- Founder, Lead Writer, Tech Analyst and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html ---------------------------------------

22 years, 6 months

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SCSI Zip 100 external drives...any interest?

by vcf＠siconic.com

I've got a number of Iomega 100MB SCSI External Zip drives with power supply and cable. Any interest at $10 each + shipping? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 6 months

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A special Liebowitzian Illumination of the UNIVAC 422 brochure and manual are being prepared!

by esharpe＠uswest.net

A special Liebowitzian Illumination of the UNIVAC 422 brochure and manual are being prepared! Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC Please check our web site at http://www.smecc.org to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us. address: coury house / smecc 5802 w palmaire ave glendale az 85301 Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC Please check our web site at http://www.smecc.org to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us. address: coury house / smecc 5802 w palmaire ave glendale az 85301

22 years, 6 months

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Format a hard drive on a VS4000 VLC

by order＠saracom.com

Hello, I am trying to installed Netbsd on a VS4000 VLC. I figure why not, it doesn't suppose the vido and the video is dead on this unit. However I am getting write errors on my RZ24. So what is the command to format the drive from the console. I can not find it anywhere. There are lists for both the VS3100 and VS2000. Thanks

22 years, 6 months

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86/330 Problem(s)

by hirschopd＠msn.com

Jay, I am not sure if we need them for this round but eventually we will need them. I would appreciate knowing how to get to them. Paul Hirsch >From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> >Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic >Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" ><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >CC: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> >Subject: Re: 86/330 Problem(s) >Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:05:34 -0600 > >The old archives are still up, just hidden :> Email me for how to get to >them if you need it. Long as I've heard of you before, I'll fill you in :) > >Jay West >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" ><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 4:56 PM >Subject: Re: 86/330 Problem(s) > > > > On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, George Leo Rachor Jr. wrote: > > > > > http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2002-December/005822.html > > > > This reminds me, when are we getting the archives back up? > > > > Hey Jay, any chance of just throwing them up and not worrying about the > > spam problems? We seem to have done OK what with the old archives still > > being searchable by Google. > > > > I surely miss the archives. I want to turn to them at least once a week > > and have to remember they are just not there :( > > > > I'd volunteer my time to take this issue on but I'm already drowning in > > projects. > > > > -- > > > > Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer >Festival > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- > > International Man of Intrigue and Danger >http://www.vintage.org > > > > [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage >mputers ] > > [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at >http://marketplace.vintage.org ] > > > > > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > _________________________________________________________________ Watch high-quality video with fast playback at MSN Video. Free! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200365ave/direct/01/

22 years, 6 months

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Need simple file transfer program

by vcf＠siconic.com

I am moving files from old Bernoulli disks to a PC. I've got an old version of Laplink that works under DOS 3.3 but it has one big problem for file transfers: it's assuming that you're trying to sync up your laptop hard drive with your desktop, and vice versa. As a result, it doesn't allow you to specify a directory to move files into. It just copies from C: drive on the source to C: drive on the target, in a mirroring fashion. So, does anyone know of a very simple serial port file transfer program that I can use to do remote file copies? It would have to have powerful wildcard facilities so I can just do a dump of whatever is on the Bernoulli cart to a directory on the remote hard drive. By the way, the problem I was having with reading the Bernoulli carts had to do with the controller and/or driver apparently. I was using a more recent Bernoulli drive controller without success. I got my hands on what I believe is the original/first controller and the drivers for it, and I was able to read the carts. The other controller can't make sense of the disk format and returns a read failure, but they do work as I can format carts with them and copy files to and from those carts. I just can't read the older carts with the newer controller and drivers. So if anyone has any old Bernoulli carts they need to get the data off of, let me know. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 6 months

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HP LIF inquiry

by vp＠mcs.drexel.edu

There are two utilities, one is called LIFUTIL and was initially sold by HP. This runs under MSDOS and allows floppies to be read (and even written). You can get a copy at: ftp://ftp.math.jyu.fi/pub/hpil/lifutil The second utility runs under Unix and allows access to disk images (i.e. the contents of the floppies after you have dd'd them to a Unix system). I have written this utility myself to help me xfer stuff >from my HP-85 to my OpenBSD web server (www.series80.org). If you want the source, email me off the list and I will send it to you. Best Regards **vp

22 years, 6 months

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An oldie but goodie...

by evan947＠yahoo.com

Interview with Ken Olsen: http://www.americanhistory.si.edu/csr/comphist/olsen.html

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86/330 Problem(s)

by hirschopd＠msn.com

We have an 86/330 that will not boot. We are using the RMX 5.1 Operating System. Following power on we compete the SCT Test and begin booting and get a "Divide overflow occured". We have replaced the 8086 procrsser, the 8087 coprocessor and the memory boards. At this point we are out of options unless it is the cpu board (144548-003 Rev C). 1) if any one has any advice I would appreciate it, or if anyone has a board or computer that they would like to sell. Thanks, Paul Hirsch hirschopd(a)msn.com 281 255-3381 _________________________________________________________________ Find and compare great deals on Broadband access at the MSN High-Speed Marketplace. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/

22 years, 6 months

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Looking for Lawrence from New Zealand/UK

by vcf＠siconic.com

Hi Lawrence. You were one of the folks who participated in the Retro-Code Challenge at VCF 6.0. You did the Hex implementation on the Apple //e. I need your last name for inclusion in the forthcoming VCF newsletter. Please reply ASAP if you see this. THANKS! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 6 months

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RAMTESTing a Horizon

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi This is a good idea. Loads change as things warm up. It seems like I recall that there were some RAMs that needed to be written once before they worked properly. I don't know if these are among those. Still, John's suggestion is where I'd look first then you should type replacing the RAM's with a different manufacture. Dwight PS I currently work at AMD but these RAMs are way before my time here. >From: "John Lawson" <jpl15(a)panix.com> > > > > One thing to test: since you have been experiencing power-supply >gremlins - if you have a scope (or a DVM that measures AC millivolts) >you might want to put it accross the power lines to the card, to see if >there is a high value of 'ripple' riding on the DC lines - Excessive >ripple can cause nasty little transient glitches like you describe. Then >you can look to the filter capacitors to see if they might not need some >TLC as well. > > Just a Thought... > >Cheers > >John > > > >

22 years, 6 months

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FidoNet message archives?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I was just thinking about how useful the Google archive is, and wondering, has anyone created an archive of the old FidoNet message archives? Unfortunately I assume most were lost due to the cost of archiving them. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

22 years, 6 months

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Microfiche User's Guide -- DEC PDP

by CyndeM＠vulcan.com

Hi Gang I'm looking for PDF files or other images of various hard copy manuals (4 x 6) that describes the contents, organization, and updating of the various PDP Microfiche Libraries. Also, if there is a document that describes the entirety of the Microfiche libraries, or websites with stories about DEC Microfiche, that would be very helpful. I'm organizing a whole boatload of these Fiche sets right now, and any tidbits of information would be really nice. Thanks! Cynde Moya, MLIS Archives Cataloguer Vulcan Inc. www.vulcan.com cyndem(a)vulcan.com Office Tel. 206-223-4901 Mobile Tel. 206.369.3205 Fax. 206-223-4207

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RAMTESTing a Horizon

by RMaxwell＠atlantissi.com

Thanks to all those who provided insight in the "Smoke on the Horizon" thread... You may be happy to hear that the machine is running now: all the blown tantalums are replaced, as well as the regulators that may have suffered due to untimely capacitive departures. I took warnings about the -5V supplies to heart and replaced all the tantala (plural of tantalum?) around the negative supplies, largely because the -5V regulators are powered >from the -16V unregulated line, and the worst failures happened on caps across the +16V line. Now that the smoke has cleared, I've been RAMTESTing the 64K HRAM card, and am a little distressed to note failures. These usually occur when the program is run from fresh-from-startup RAM: once RAMTEST (3 or 5) has run through a cycle (or bombed due to an error), subsequent tests run for hours with no further problems. The failures don't seem to be bit-specific, but they've occurred mostly in the highest 16K (particularly the top 8K) of address space. Do I need to be concerned about this? Anyone know if the RAMTEST program trips up on previously-unaccessed space? Or do the RAMs need a little time/exercise to get to an internal temperature where they are stabler? These are 16Kx1 AMD devices (circa 1982), and my debug work in the past has been limited to SRAMs or higher-density DRAMs (I know, I know: I just haven't lived until I've debugged core). Regards, Bob

22 years, 6 months

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Pdp 11/20 front panels

by chad.martin＠fli-invent.com

I own an early 11/20, sn300, also of the PDP-11 only markings, like the unit in question. My front panel PCB is date stamped 1970, and it is the led type. I also have original DEC schematics that show first bulbs, and then a revision to allow bulbs or LEDs. I also have some other front panel PCBs with bulbs. My best guess would be that they did a revision for LED's, and then perhaps dropped them due to cost or availability. So it appears that LEDs were at least installed on some 11/20s. My LED unit does not have the front panel drilled out, but I suppose they may have done that for one of the early proto types while they were trying different designs. My 11/20 was supposed to have been gotten from the dec Mill factory in Mass, perhaps the early LED units were never shipped out. So it is likely that the 11/20 for sale is for real. Chad Martin

22 years, 6 months

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PDP-11 on VCM

by wmaddox＠pacbell.net

I would like to make it clear that the seller of the PDP-11 (the 11/20 marked 11) listed on VCM is as far as I know a perfectly honest gentlemen and was not trying to be deceptive about the condition of the machine he is selling. Indeed, the pictures are up in the listing for all to see. I take issue with the description of the front panel as "very nice" if in fact it has been modified by a user, but it is certainly a subjective matter and it appears that the seller was acting in good faith and did not realize that his machine was unusual in this respect. He's apparently been busy with multiple obligations, including arranging the shipment of some other much larger machines, and just hasn't had time to deal with the 11/20. He got back to me in email yesterday, explained the situation, and was distressed at the implication that he had been deceptive. I had him pegged as an Ebay-style "Altairz" mercenary who didn't really know what he was selling but was holding out for a windfall, and I my tone reflected that. I believe that was a mistake, and that he is a serious collector as he claimed to be in his mail. A bit of Googling turned up several archival messages that indicated prior participation in the classic computing community. In the interests of full disclosure, I should also say that I haven't entirely lost interest in the machine myself, and anyone who is interested should look for themselves and draw their own conclusions about its value. Bill Maddox

22 years, 6 months

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Archive 5945C

by aek＠spies.com

The 5945C has an edge connector , much like a print card. Dont know how to put it more precisely -- A 5945C is the basic QIC-36 interface, 5945L is QIC-02 www.bitsavers.org/pdf/archive/ScorpionProdDescr.pdf

22 years, 6 months

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Everex EV-831

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

I just sent email to the 4 persons asking about the files I had. If you didn't get the email, let me know. joe heck

22 years, 6 months

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afrts 33 RPM records from the 70s - what do I do with them?

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

I have a 2-foot stack of old afrts (Armed Forces Radio and Television Service) LP records from the 70's. They are used, but in good condition. They have the offficial afrts label with records contents listed. What should I do with them? (be nice) Examples: Kris Kristofferson David Cassidy Barbara Streisand Roy Clark Sweet DeFranco Family Dawn, featuring Tony Orlando John Lenon, Yoko Ono Michael Jackson Rick Springfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

22 years, 6 months

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HP 2100/21MX assembler question

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

If one codes a set of "micro" instructions in the Alter-Skip-Group as follows: LBL1 CLE,SEZ CLear E, Skip if E Zero Instruction 002140, would not one expect this to always skip the next instruction??? I would think E has been cleared, so the Skip if E Zero becomes true. Jay West --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

22 years, 6 months

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HP2100/21MX assembler question

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

If one codes a set of "micro" instructions in the Alter-Skip-Group as follows: LBL1 CLE,SEZ CLear E, Skip if E Zero Instruction 002140, would not one expect this to always skip the next instruction??? I would think E has been cleared, so the Skip if E Zero becomes true. Jay West --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

22 years, 6 months

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Archive 5945C

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> > >On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Nico de Jong wrote: > >> I find that hard to believe. The SCSI Archive drives I know, are all >> equipped with connectors as used on flatcables. The 5945C has an edge >> connector , much like a print card. Dont know how to put it more precisely > >Those are generally refered to as IDC connectors. I wish I knew what IDC >stood for. I'm not willing to take a guess right now, though I think I am >close. insulation displacement connector Dwight > >I've seen Archive drives equipped with either IDC or edge-type connectors, >and the model number usually indicates which type of connection it has. >For instance, an Archive 2150S is SCSI with a 50 pin IDC, whereas an >Archive 2150L has, I believe, an edge connector > >-- > >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org > >[ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] >[ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ] > >

22 years, 6 months

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An oldie but goodie...

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com> wrote: > Google is not much help, it doesn't look like he's done anything since > Advanced Modular Solutions went under. But cryosuspension seems very > un-Ken-like. Un-Ken-like? Well, at Modular he was in effect saying that he didn't want to just retire and leave the stage, he wanted to keep doing what he loves, making computers. If he chooses (or already chose, don't know if he is still alive or not) to be buried/cremated when his time is up, then that's it. But if he opts for cryosuspension instead, then he'll be revived some time later and will be able to make computers again, this time for eternity, like a god of computing on Mt. Olympus, eating ambrosia, drinking nectar, enjoying the goddesses (so eternal life and eternal youth are never boring) and making VAXen. MS

22 years, 6 months

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An oldie but goodie...

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com> wrote: > Or his bad habit of personally redesigning product details > at the very last moment. The MMJ connector is an example of the > latter problem; MMJ rocks! BTW, is Ken still alive? Someone else mentioned on this list some time ago that he is in cryosuspension at Alcor. MS

22 years, 6 months

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SS-50/SS-30 Pin Spacing

by swtpc6800＠comcast.net

The pin spacing is 0.156 inch. You can get the Molex parts at Digi Key. www.digikey.com You can look up all the data sheets using the parts numbers at www.molex.com. The 10 pin right angle connector is Molex part 09-52-3101, Digi Key part WM3307-ND. They cost $1.57. The polarizing key is Molex part15-04-0219, Digi Key WM2402-ND. They cost 0.25. The round pin male header is the Molex 3192 series. The 10 pin unit is Molex part 26-20-2101. I have not found a good source, Digi-Key only carries the square pins. The square pin has more contact area (a flat side instead of a point.) The increased friction makes it more difficult to plug and unplug boards. I used the AMP part to build a motherboard (fartherboard?) The 12 pin version is cheaper then the 10 pin version. I bought 12 pin parts and used a utility knife to trim them. 10 Pin MTA 0.156 Header Assembly Straight Round Tin Amp # 1-640384-0 Digi-Key# A24154-ND Price $1.37 12 Pin MTA 0.156 Header Assembly Straight Round Tin Amp # 1-640384-2 Digi-Key# A26174-ND Price $0.93 Michael Holley www.swtpc.com/mholley

22 years, 6 months

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minor OT: computerized POS systems

by d_cymbal＠hotmail.com

Hi, Does anyone have/collect any computerized point-of-sale systems? I am specifically interested in 3 old systems from Tranti Systems Incorporated (now defunct, purchased by GEAC sometime in the mid 90s), the System 29, System 105, and System 2100. The first 2 where proprietary hardware, the last was PC-based. If anyone has any leads on any info, please let me know. dc

22 years, 6 months

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SS-50/SS-30 Pin Spacing

by patrick＠evocative.com

Does someone know off the top of his head what the pin spacing is on the SS-50 and SS-30 buses? Better still, Molex or other manufacturer's part numbers for acceptable replacements (10-pin male and female)? Thanks! --Patrick

22 years, 6 months

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ebay question

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Oh, I'm probably going to regret weighing in on this but: ebay proxy bidding is MUCH better than a sealed bid auction because if you win, you only end up paying one increment more than the second highest bidder (usually a buck or two). In a true sealed bid auction, you pay whatever you bid, which might be a lot more than the second highest bid. So, the ebay model almost always gives you a better deal than a sealed bid, and never a worse deal. What most people don't like about sniping is the emotional letdown they get when their bid sits at the minimum for a week, and then their maximum gets exceeded at the last second. I have to admit, I've ended up feeling cheated myself, as if I actually deserved to get a PDP-8 for $10. But all they've cheated me out of is the opportunity re-think my maximum bid after that find out that someone else may be interested. What would make eBay much more interesting (and more expensive for buyers) would be the going-going-gone approach used by live auctions, and the old onsale.com site. Real auctions stay open until bidding activity has ceased for a period of time. Onsale kept auctions open past the posted closing time until 10 minutes had passed since the last bid. This made sniping irrelevant, but in exchange you could get a frenzy of emotional incremental end-stage bidding. Brian

22 years, 6 months

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REPOST: Re: VAX 11/750 tu58 images

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Brad Parker <brad(a)heeltoe.com> wrote: > If it helps, I made a linux version of the tu58 emulator. No big deal, > just the standard "sgtty to termios" conversion and some header file > changes. Where can I get the original sgtty version for those who prefer sgtty to termios? What OS is it for? (I don't currently have a need for TU58 emulator, but hearing talk about changing sgtty to termios just made me jump up and scream "I want sgtty!!!") MS

22 years, 6 months

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HP 7035B Plotter replacement drive belt?

by tomj＠wps.com

It's 80's vintage, analog XY pen plotter, there's a mylar low-compliance drive belt, mine apparently stretched then dove into the drive gear, ruining it beyond all repair. Does anyone know where to get replacement parts? I have the old belt (pieces) so I can get dimensions. (It's about 3mm wide, 2" diam, yellowish thin mylar). Pens are enough trouble to find, I fear for the machines life for lack of drive belt. (I tried fabricating replacements, it's a tight application; since it's a servo closed-loop, I think grooving it for an O-ring will make it hunt.)

22 years, 6 months

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Where is the Comprehensive Computer Catalogue?

by aek＠spies.com

Hopefully I will be in a position to put the CCC back on-line in the near future. -- I'd be happy to mirror it at bitsavers.org, LMK

22 years, 6 months

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HP LIF inquiry

by Edward.Marchese＠itt.com

Joe, I found an old webpage, http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-June/015876.html, that had one of your postings on it where you discussed reading old HP disks. I'm looking for a utility which possibly someone has written that will allow me to read and access files from those old HP "LIF" and "HFS" disks using a present day PC. Do you know if there are any sources of such a utility out there? shareware, freeware, commercial? Anything you might have heard of? Any info you may have or general comments are appreciated. Thanks. Ed Marchese Clifton, NJ ************************************ This email and any files transmitted with it are proprietary and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Industries, Inc. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT Industries accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ************************************

22 years, 6 months

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Manz Aztec compiler (was: Zortech)

by paulrsm＠buckeye-express.com

Phil wrote: >I wouldn't mind a copy of Manx Aztec C. ISTR there >was a 6502 cross-compiler version made - ran on an >IBM PC, produced 6502 code. Never managed to find >a copy, though. Same goes for the "compile on a PC, >run on a PC" version. I have three versions: Apple II native compiler, MS-DOS cross-compiler for Apple II/6502, and MS-DOS compiler for 8086 (v3.2?). I have scanned the docs for the 6502 compilers and I can do so for the 8086 manual. CD-R? -- Paul Monroe, Michigan USA

22 years, 6 months

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Power Mac update

by KVanMersbergen＠RandMcNally.com

All the Macs are gone. Thank you all! -Ken V. *************************************************************** This E-mail is confidential. It should not be read, copied, disclosed or used by any person other than the intended recipient. Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying by whatever medium is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the E-mail from your system. ***************************************************************

22 years, 6 months

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Free to a good home, several Power Macs

by KVanMersbergen＠RandMcNally.com

Hello- I have the following available at no cost, you just have to pick it up. They are located at my home in Glenview, IL. I thought I'd offer them here before I throw them out..... 1 Power Macintosh 9500/132 1 Power Macintosh 9500/120 1 Power Macintosh 9500/180MP 1 Power Macintosh 5400/180 (This one has a built-in monitor) They are all in perfect working order, I just don't have the room for them anymore. Just contact me off list if you are interested. -Ken V. *************************************************************** This E-mail is confidential. It should not be read, copied, disclosed or used by any person other than the intended recipient. Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying by whatever medium is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the E-mail from your system. ***************************************************************

22 years, 6 months

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HP 7035B Plotter replacement drive belt?

by CPUMECH＠aol.com

Try Dataterm Inc. they have a lot of old stuff like that. 781-938-1010. I know they have belts for the 7550 plotter.

22 years, 6 months

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Philips LDB4401 cassette

by cbonninga＠priemabv.nl

Dear Sir, On the internet we found your offer for Philips LDB4401 cassettes " certified digital mini-cassettes" We desperately need them for a CNC machine. Could you tell us whether you still have app.25 pieces for us? Could you give us a price, including shipping to The Netherlands, way of payment, delivery time? Kindest regards, Priema BV Hoevelaken The Netherlands Chris Bonninga Priema BV Hoevelaken The Netherlands Zuiderinslag 22 Postal address: P.O.Box 33 3870 CA Hoevelaken Tel. +31 - 33 - 253 68 04 Tel. direct +31 - 6 -150 16 443 E-mail: cbonninga(a)priemabv.nl

22 years, 6 months

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cat5 keystone jacks and cable for sale

by browe58＠comcast.net

hi, i have available for sale several hundred USED cat5 keystone jacks and cable. the jack is on one end and the other end is bare. the minimum length is around 35 ft. please email if interested. thanx. bill

22 years, 6 months

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MSCP protocol docs

by bqt＠update.uu.se

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 Paul Williams <paul(a)frixxon.co.uk> wrote: > Pete Turnbull wrote: > > Several weeks ago the subject of MSCP docs came up. I think there may > > be a scanned copy of AA-L619A-TK (MSCP Basic Disk Functions Manual) out > > there somewhere, though I can't find it > > It was available at www.pdp11.nl, though that site is still down. > Neither of the other two are online, according to Manx. I put it at ftp://ftp.update.uu.se/pub/pdp11/doc a while ago, and it's still there. > > I have all three. Anyone in the UK or Netherlands want to scan them? > > The three documents are respectively 170pp, 46pp, and 58pp. > > I can scan the other two. Did someone scan the 4FDC manual for you? I > offered, in private email, but received no response. I could probably scan them too, but I just have a hand-fed scanner. I might take a shot at OCRing the MSCP doc instead, unless someone beats me to it. I'm half-busy right now... Johnny Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt(a)update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

22 years, 6 months

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sol-20's

by pugseven＠hotmail.com

This is what I have and will be selling in the near future. Two sol-20's both working perfectly in original condition. One is fully loaded with everything you could get from the factory(64k, networking board, ect). The other has either 4k or 16k (?) it acted as the others slave and does not have all the boards. Both have original monitors. I have all the documentation from the manuals to copy's of receipts, and original software (cp/m, cbasic). A micropolis 1054 5 inch 4 stack of drives which I still need to test just to be sure it still works( I cannot even find a reference to them on the online). And one decwriter with the form feed option and a built in keyboard. So you could network all this stuff and have three separate inputs (it is pretty cool). I have not decided how to auction them off yet (as a collection or individually). Any who that's what I got so tell me what you think if any one wants a preemptive bid let me know. thanks nIcK

22 years, 6 months

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MSCP protocol docs

by GOOI＠oce.nl

For the DIGITAL community, I still scan documents as long as it is loose sheets or it is OK to remove the staples. I do not scan books, that's too time consuming. FYI, I use the scan-to-file option of the Oc? 3165 printer/copier. Any size up to A3/Ledger (11"x 17") is easy, and even mixed sets, for example Letter-sized with fold-outs for schematics are OK. That takes a bit more time to prevent the fold-out to be scaled to Letter size (a few manual actions required). The result is a PDF file readable by Acrobat Reader, but the files are *BIG*, actually they are TIFF's with "PDF jacket". I once did a test on a *text-only* document of 25 pages. The PDF was 6.8 Mbytes, and after going through the Distiller it was just over 650 kbytes ... but I noticed some loss of information here and there. So, reliability is not a full 100%. I stay with the big files knowing not to loose any information. BTW the resolution of the scanner is 600 dpi. For a sample of the scan quality see the scans on mainecoon ... Please e-mail first if you want me to do some scanning. I offer the service free as long as it is DIGITAL, preferably PDP-11 related. You pay the postal cost for sending the doc to me, and the postal cost if you want them back. The resulting scan files are put on a CD-ROM and I ask US $2 for a CD-ROM (up to 650 Mb). I hope that is a reasonable fee ... - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Turnbull [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com] > Sent: dinsdag 24 februari 2004 12:18 > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: MSCP protocol docs > > > Several weeks ago the subject of MSCP docs came up. I think there may > be a scanned copy of AA-L619A-TK (MSCP Basic Disk Functions > Manual) out > there somewhere, though I can't find it, but not, AFAIK, AA-L620A-TK > (Storage Systems Diagnostics and Utility Protocol) and AA-L621A-TK > (Storage System Unibus Port Description). These are the three > components of the UDA50 Progammer's Kit, QP-905-GZ (which, despite the > name, isn't really UDA50-specific) > > I have all three. Anyone in the UK or Netherlands want to scan them? > The three documents are respectively 170pp, 46pp, and 58pp. > > -- > Pete Peter Turnbull > Network Manager > University of York

22 years, 6 months

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ldb4401 research

by KADORMAIL1＠aol.com

hello, i m looking for some ldb4401 pilips tapes , so tell me about your price and how many tapes you can send me thank you, jeremy

22 years, 6 months

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ebay question

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I have had good results using the report function on eBay. I have reported several frauds (some are quite blatant) and usually the sale is cancelled in a day or two. The person then gets a warning mail not to do such a thing. Three such warnings will get someone suspended from eBay. If it is obvious fraud their name will be suspended immediatly. Now it is fairly difficult to prove a shill, and without proof eBay generally won't do anything. Coincidence is not proof. If the zero feedback bidder shows up on other sales of the original seller it may be suspicious. If he only shows up on the original sellers sales that is very suspicious. Is he registered in the same town? Check both's buyer and seller's ebay information. In doing that ebay sends an email to you and the person you are verifying so it is kind of a notice if it is a shill. Do bidding and selling searches on both the bidders name and the original sellers name. See if there are any more connections. Make sure if you really want the item to make note of the sellers email when you check the ebay records. If eBay does cancel them there will be no accessable records of their offerings.

22 years, 6 months

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Source for DC100 tapes

by bo_dance＠yahoo.com

Hello I have a friend that has an old Machine tool manufactured circa 1978. It apparently uses DC-100 tapes. He has one copy of the operating system tape, that he calls a "Parameter" tape. He'd like to make a copy. I need a source for these old DC-100 tapes. Thanks ===== #------------------------------------------------------- # Thomas Bodine, http://www.tommythegeek.com # Computer support for small business # Skipper S/V Frimi WWP 19 #1029 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

22 years, 6 months

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Qbus perfboards

by chd_1＠nktelco.net

I remember somebody posting about a source for qbus proto boards, but I can't seem to find it. Anybody remember the post or the link to the source? -chuck

22 years, 6 months

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Zortech C++ compiler

by swtpc6800＠comcast.net

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Kevin Handy wrote: > Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > > >The Zortech C++ compiler was one of the very first C++ compilers developed > >in the mid- to late-1980s. I'm looking for a copy for a friend who's > >writing a book (and also so the creator of Zortech C++ can have his own > >copy since he never held onto his own!) Zortech C++ was licensed to > >Symantec and became their C++ compiler. > > > >Does anyone have a copy of Zortech C++? > How about a copy of Datalight C? Walter Bright is the author of Zortech C++. In 1982 Walter and I were evaluating computer languages for developing electrical engineering software on the IBM PC, VAX VMS and VAX UNIX. We looked a Pascal, Fortran and C. We selected C, the PC had the Lattice compiler, DEC had just released a C compiler for VMS and UNIX had the standard. Walter looked at the C compilers for the PC and said, "I can do better that that." He got a release from our employer (Data I/O) and spent nights and weekends writing a functional clone of the 2 pass Lattice compiler. This enabled him the debug each pass and to be compatible with the Lattice libraries. I think it took him a year to write the compiler and libraries for the first release. Microsoft also liked the Lattice C compiler, the OEMed the software and the only change was the start-up banner. The OEM deal changed the words "Lattice C 2.0" to "Microsoft C 3.0" (I forget the exact wording, it was 20 years ago.) The higher version number made the Microsoft compiler sound better. The files would pass a binary compare except for those bytes. The first C compiler Microsoft wrote was version 4.0. Walter first started selling his compiler as Northwest C, I don't know if he sold any under that name. He teamed up with someone here in Seattle and started selling it as Datalight C. That went OK but the distributor in the UK was selling more then the US. Walter parted with Datalight and formed Zorland with the UK distributor. Borland did not like the name so they had to change it to Zortech. In the late 80s C++ came to be as a pre-processor for the UNIX compiler. Walter said, "I can do better that that." He wrote the first native C++ compiler for any platform. After about 10 years of work on the compiler he sold out to Symantec and became an instant millionaire. Michael Holley www.swtpc.com/mholley

22 years, 6 months

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8" drive collets

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 24, 23:25, John Honniball wrote: > Pete Turnbull wrote: > > Today I discovered that the fault on drive 0 of my SWTPC twin 8" drive > > box is due to a cracked collet -- the 8-fingered black plastic part, > > with a ball race in the centre, that holds the floppy disk onto the > > hub. > > I have some spare 8" disk drives here, if that'll help at all. Or if > anyone else wants 'em? One's a Shugart SA-801, the others I can't > remember (but I can look them up). I like the drives I have so I don't really want to replace them, and it seems silly to cannibalise a good drive to fix a bust one. And I *definitely* don't have room for more (unfortunately -- I'd like to put one or two on a PC). But thanks for the offer. OTOH, I might fit one into my Cromemco. I'll check that tomorrow... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 6 months

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ebay question

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Try abuse(a)ebay.com Dwight >From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> > >I'm bidding on an item, and I'm pretty sure the seller has another (0 >feedback) account and is bidding up the price. I don't see any spot on ebays >website where I can raise this issue. Is there someone I can bring this >issue to there? Anyone have any thoughts on this? > >Please reply off-list > >Jay > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > >

22 years, 6 months

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8" drive collets

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

Today I discovered that the fault on drive 0 of my SWTPC twin 8" drive box is due to a cracked collet -- the 8-fingered black plastic part, with a ball race in the centre, that holds the floppy disk onto the hub. I've had this happen before on an 8" drive, and repaired it by gluing with Araldite (epoxy), but I'd prefer a better repair. Does anyone know of a source for new collets, which seem to be the same on several different makes of 8" drive? The other drive in the pair looks set to go the same way real soon, as it's got a lot of small cracks in it. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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HP9121

by helinji＠ureach.com

Hello Lee, Would you consider selling this? I am checking how it is different from HP PN: 09114-69511. If it is same, I am interestede in buying it. Regards Henry HP 9121 Davison, Lee cctech(a)classiccmp.org Tue Jun 10 10:55:45 2003 Previous message: [Fwd: [Siglinux] Symbolics Lisp machine to a good home] Next message: HP 9121 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- While dumpster diving at the end of a radio rally (what, doesn't everyone do this?) I found, in with the usual PC scrap, an HP 9121 dual disk unit. The unit powers and a small LED flashes five times but that's as far as I've got because I've not got anything to plug it into. I take it I can use DSDD 3.5" disks in this and that with a General Instrument HPIB card and some hand rolled code I can try it out. Anyone done this? Any pointers to where to start? Any online docs for the command set/protocols? Cheers, Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag

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MSCP protocol docs

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

Several weeks ago the subject of MSCP docs came up. I think there may be a scanned copy of AA-L619A-TK (MSCP Basic Disk Functions Manual) out there somewhere, though I can't find it, but not, AFAIK, AA-L620A-TK (Storage Systems Diagnostics and Utility Protocol) and AA-L621A-TK (Storage System Unibus Port Description). These are the three components of the UDA50 Progammer's Kit, QP-905-GZ (which, despite the name, isn't really UDA50-specific) I have all three. Anyone in the UK or Netherlands want to scan them? The three documents are respectively 170pp, 46pp, and 58pp. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Where is the Comprehensive Computer Catalogue?

by citem＠citem.org

Paul, Thanks for your interest in the CCC I am just coming out of a period of personal crisis - no salary for over 18 months! Hopefully I will be in a position to put the CCC back on-line in the near future. As to the ClassiCcmp, I was kicked off and am unable to resubscribe. My messages just don't get through. I suspect a spam filter somewhere is munching my messages. I am forced to read the archived messages :-( Once again thanks for you interest, I'll try and send a message to cccmp when the list goes unline. -- Hans

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Aargh...It never ends..

by allain＠panix.com

> Ducking and running as I post this.... > http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=10&threadID=147374&mess ageID=1579357 Problem, agreed. <play> Wasn't it concluded that it took something like 50mA to kill? Soooo... If we convert our houses and appliances to 30KV/50mA, we can get them to run, without danger of _death_. I guess the house would then approximate a plasma dome... And it wouldn't it be difficult to hold a cup of coffee? </play> John A. prior message misfired, note, Not by stray voltage.

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Anyone in contact with Al Jacobs?

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Hi Folks, Has anyone been in contact with a guy in Wisconsin named Al Jacobs? If you have, please contact me off-list. Thanks, Brian Knittel

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Unknown QBUS board

by technobug＠comcast.net

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:04:03 +0100, Sebastian Br?ckner <sebastian.brueckner(a)epost.de> schreibt: > A few month ago I acquired a VAXstation 3200. It runs runs very nicely > with a Emulex UC08 SCSI-Controller off a 1GB full-height SCSI-Disk. > > There is one QBUS card in the system that I can't identify. > As far as I know the VAX has been used for measurement data aquisition > in a physics laboratory. > The only connector to the outside is for a 40-pin ribbon cable. I got a > very long (10m I guess) cable with the box so I suppose it is using > some > kind of differential data transmission. > Unfortunately I don't know what was connected to the other end of the > cable. Probably the card is useless without that second part (maybe a > A/D-Converter?). > > The board occupies all 4 slots and is populated mostly with small ICs > of > the 74xxx series and some PALs. > > The Label says: > > KINETICSYSTEMS > MODEL D1571 > MODEL 2922-Z1B > > I did not find any usable information on he net. Does anyone of you > know > what this board does? > > Thanks in advance, > Sebastian You have the Qbus part (KSC2922) of a KSC2922/3922, Qbus CAMAC interface. CAMAC (Computer Automated Measurement And Control) is an instrumentation system extensively used in the nuclear/high energy area. The other end of the cable that you have connected to a rack in which various and sundry instrumentation modules could be placed. IIRC the CAMAC bus was 24 bits and the hardware that you have either packed the data 24->32 or various other packings. The basic standard is IEEE 583. There are a number of standards covering a serial interface as well as software APIs. What you need now is to find a CAMAC bin and the other end of that interface and you can become a nuclear terrorist ;)) Claude

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FCC IDs for Xerox DandeTigers ...?

by bob＠copenhagen.cuug.ab.ca

Oh great Gurus of Obscure Facts: Does anyone happen to have at their fingertips any FCC ID information about the Xerox 8000 or 1108 series hardware and the monitors that go with it? I am about to ship a couple of these babies to Tony Eros (member of this list) and I may need this info to get the customs people to let them through. Many thanks in advance, Bob. Bob Bramwell 60 Baker Cr. NW | What would happen if they cloned ProntoLogical Calgary, AB | Schrodinger's Cat? +1 403/861-8827 T2L 1R4, Canada | - Andrew Spiers, Oxford U.

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PING Peter Wallace

by jpl15＠panix.com

Email me off-list please - somehow I have deleted your email addr.. Cheers John

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Seeking TED chips, 8501R1 (for C plus/4 and C 16's)

by buzzer1＠poczta.onet.pl

hello I've got 8501R1. I'don't need that. Have you needed that yet? Paul from Poland.

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FCC IDs for Xerox DandeTigers ...?

by bob＠copenhagen.cuug.ab.ca

They were probably built around 1983 or so. As for why the customs care... I dunno: they just do. Every time I have to ship stuff to the U.S. I have to provide copies of form FCC 740 (Statement regarding the Importation of Radio Frequency Devices Capable of causing Harmful Interference) for monitors and computers. Sometimes (and I'll have to figure out exactly what the circumstances are) I also need a form FD 2877 (Food & Drug Administration: Declaraion for Products Subject to Radiation Control Standards). And you thought Canadian bureaucracy was bad! Anyway, thanks for the info. I'll fill out the forms accordingly and hope for the best. >Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:21:22 -0500 >From: Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com> >To: bob(a)copenhagen.cuug.ab.ca, cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Cc: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: FCC IDs for Xerox DandeTigers ...? > >>>>>> "Bob" == Bob Bramwell <bob(a)copenhagen.cuug.ab.ca> writes: > > Bob> Oh great Gurus of Obscure Facts: Does anyone happen to have at > Bob> their fingertips any FCC ID information about the Xerox 8000 or > Bob> 1108 series hardware and the monitors that go with it? I am > Bob> about to ship a couple of these babies to Tony Eros (member of > Bob> this list) and I may need this info to get the customs people to > Bob> let them through. > >When were those built? If it was before the early 1980s, there wasn't >any such thing as an FCC ID. If one was assigned it should be on one >of the stickers on the box, near the model and serial numbers. > >If it's newer than that, you might be able to extract it from an FCC >database that supposedly exists on-line with this stuff in it, but I >know no details about that. > >Why would customs care? > > paul > Bob Bramwell 60 Baker Cr. NW | What would happen if they cloned ProntoLogical Calgary, AB | Schrodinger's Cat? +1 403/861-8827 T2L 1R4, Canada | - Andrew Spiers, Oxford U.

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Flash mob computing

by vcf＠siconic.com

Interesting concept: get a bunch of people together who all have at least a 1.3Ghz P-III (or AMD equivalent) laptop with at least 256MB RAM and a 100baseT network connection and hook them all together to try to get onto the list of the world's 500 fastest supercomputers: http://www.flashmobcomputing.org/ Maybe I'm behind the times, but I don't think that many people can afford such a laptop right around now. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Everex EV-831

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

I have three 5.25 inch floppies that have the labels (copies): EVEREX EXCEL STREAMING TAPE ST 4061 VER 4.06 EV0-00830-00 MAY 24 1988. Disk 2 and 3 have similar labels, but are 4062 and 4063. Upon running the tape program on disk 1, the options for hardware are: Full Size QIC-36 tape controller board Full Size cassette tape controller board Half Size QIC-02 tape controller board Diskette and QIC-02 board 2/3 Size QIC-36 Disk and QIC-36 Disk and QIC-02 The program does not give model numbers, but shows a graphic of the board and all the jumpers. Ya think this software will help you? Joe Heck

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read it immediately

by e.huininga＠sozawe.groningen.nl

This is a virus-generated mail. It's generated by the W32/Netsky.b@MM virus. Looks like someone hasn't updated his/hers virusscanner :-) >>> "Tillman, Edward" <Edward.Tillman(a)valero.com> 02/24 10:08 >>> ??? Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, Texas, USA Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048 Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> -----Original Message----- From: veeke200(a)tech.nhl.nl [mailto:veeke200@tech.nhl.nl] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 3:09 AM To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Subject: read it immediately here it is

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