- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by jim＠smithy.com

I'm trying to find a Z80 disassembler for Linux. There are a bunch of DOS ones out there, doesn't do me any good. A long time ago I had downloaded one that was source and compiled it, but I can't remember what it was. Anybody know of one? Jim

22 years, 4 months

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Honeywell DPS-6 and other stuff

by vcf＠siconic.com

I've been contacted by a credit union in southern California that has a Honeywell DPS-6 among some other stuff. The list includes: Honeywell DPS-6 Spectralogic ST865 tape drive Honeywell-Bull tape drive (in a large cabinet) Something with model number B01730 (the only information I have on this) AlphaServer 2100 (225Mhz, .5GB RAM, (5) RZ28 HD, (6) VT320, TSZ70) Very large UPS (two racks, lots of batteries) The location is City of Commerce, California (south Los Angeles). The Honeywell DPS-6 is the coolest member of this lot. I would not mind having it but for a couple issues, primarily my lack of time for embarking on a long-distance haul and my desire to rid myself of large things at this point as opposed to acquiring them. And I already have one, though it's in rough shape. I'm going to give the Computer History Museum first dibs on the DPS-6. The rest of the stuff is up for grabs. The company just wants it hauled off and they need it gone within a month or so. In case the CHM does not want the DPS-6 but you do, let me know. GCOS (the OS for the DPS-6) was inspired by Multics. Some information here: http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?GCOS ...and here: http://perso.club-internet.fr/febcm/english/gcos_6_products.htm So it could be a fun machine to hack on if you have the room. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 4 months

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Search engines for networks?

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

JC- I quick perusal of Microsoft's Web site reveals that this service is installed as part of Internet Information Server and/or Index Server. It is very Web-oriented, meaning that an HTML "search" page would programmatically query the index and produce a result. Index Server (a separate product) has built-in querying. I don't know if the IIS Indexing service can index anything other than what's directly under wwwroot (the main Web site parent directory). I looked at the man pages for swish-e and it will index anything that is under single parent directory (which could be ".\users"). There doesn't appear to be any way to index two independent trees, though. Rich -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of J.C. Wren Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:40 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Search engines for networks? Win2K (and I think NT4) has a document indexing service. For Win2K, goto Start->Settings->Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Computer Management->Services And Applications->Indexing Service (I think there's a quicker way to get there, but I use that so infrequently I don't remember). You can configure what documents are indexed. You can index PDFs with a free plugin from Adobe. I think most MS formats are supported by default. You can specify how often documents are indexed, what directories or drives, etc. The problem is the query tool isn't as readily available or as usable as I would like. But it does work, and it's a little known service. --jc John Foust wrote: >At 09:36 AM 4/3/2004, you wrote: > > >> I'm looking for a search engine I can use on my network in the house. I >>remember a long time ago (1998 or so), before the "browser wars" AltaVista >>distributed a "personal AltaVista" that you could use on a personal computer >>to allow for indexing/searching a local machine/network. This was at the >>time that AltaVista was owned by Digital. I found a lot of announcements of >>the product but no actual download points. >>Does anyone have this or something else I can use internally? The server >>runs Windows NT Server and I can install IIS. >> >> > >I've wished for it - or something comparable - many times since >then, too. I was just talking about it with a friend the other >day. One nice feature was that it could look inside popular >file formats, like Word docs and Zip files. > >I don't remember if it was available as a single download. >If I knew a filename of the installer, I might have a ghost of >a chance to find it in a backup. I don't think it required >NT Server. I remember running it on NT 4.0. If you find it, >I'd love to get a copy, too. > >- John > > >

22 years, 4 months

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Wanted: RL02K (Re: WTB/T: RL02/01, QBUS SMD)

by workstations＠sbcglobal.net

Patrick, Interested in deck digital HD 10GB RL02K total of 55. w/ deck w/ VT 320 Terminals There are some Deck printers no s/n or p/n's right now. Are you interested in making offer? Frank Stotts Workstations Hardware Services E-mail>frank(a)wrksta.com (405)842-5151

22 years, 4 months

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Documents and an IMSAI

by dan＠ekoan.com

I picked up some unusual (to me) documentation tonight, along with an IMSAI and a Hayes S-100 modem that you can see at www.decodesystems.com/imsai.html The documentation includes: An NEC manual (marked confidential) that is titled "D22X7 Series 8-Inch Winchester Disk Drive Manual." It has 8 chapters and two appendices, including schematics. Solos/Cuter User's Manual from Processor Technology dated 1977. According to this manual, "SOLOS is a program designed to be a personality module in a Sol. CUTER is a program designed to provide much of the power of SOLOS for the non-Sol user." Thinker Toys Draft User's Manual for "Disk Jockey 2D" Microsoft BASIC-80 version 5.0 Reference Manual, including a letter from Thinker Toys explaining why they have to include a Non-Disclosure Agreement -- and the actual Non-Disclosure Agreement for Microsoft Disk BASIC or FORTRAN. Microsoft CP/M and ISIS-II BASIC Reference Book, copyright 1977 when Bill et al were in Albuquerque. Also some floppies: Two 8-inch disks, both from Morrow Designs Thinker Toys and both copyrighted 1979. One is labeled "SOL 2D - Diskate Version 2.0 - Mod B" and the other "Microsoft BASIC Version 5.0.3" A sealed 5.25" floppy labeled "Milestone (c) 1981, Apple CP/M, Demo, Revision 1.06" More to come, including a Dynabyte machine that is still in the car. Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html

22 years, 4 months

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Boot disk for Philips P2000C?

by f.ogg＠hccnet.nl

Dear Dan, Sure there are CP/M boot diskettes. Just send us your address, and we will calculate the posting. Frits Ogg chairman P2000gg (P2000 usersgroup in the Netherlands) Dan Veeneman dan at ekoan.com Sun Mar 21 17:40:02 CST 2004 a.. Previous message: Electronic components sources b.. Next message: FW: [Fwd: Old Teletype Paper] c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, I recently acquired a Philips P2000C "portable" computer. It came with a couple of 5.25" application disks but is missing a C/PM boot disk. I checked the archives mentioned here recently but couldn't find one for this machine. Does anyone out there have a boot disk they could send me in Teledisk or similar format? Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html

22 years, 4 months

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FA: S-100 and other stuff on VCM

by pat＠computer-refuge.org

Just wanted to say I've posted a large pile of S-100 cards and some other things on VCM, as I need the money more than piles of useless-to-me hardware. :) Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCS --- http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

22 years, 4 months

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truckload of DEC -11 parts

by jwest＠kwcorp.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4122358161&category=1247 Someone in the northeast should go look at this and see what's there! Jay --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

22 years, 4 months

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One last batch of DEC handbooks FS

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

One last batch of DEC handbooks available for sale, as I finally finished cleaning out the garage. These are what I had left (duplicates) and what I found after I shipped the last huge batch out. I'd prefer to sell them together if possible, to avoid the hassle of packing and shipping multiple boxes/packages/etc. Condition is decent for publications this old - no falling out pages, etc. Picture of the previous huge batch: http://www.mrbill.net/decbooks/ No reasonable offer refused, I can ship in the next two days. LSI PDP11/03 Processor Handbook (1975-76) PDP-11 Architecture Handbook (1983-84) PDP11 software handbook (1976) (x2) Laboratory Computer Handbook (PDP-12) (1971) Microcomputers and Memories (1982) Logic Handbook (1976-1976) Logic Handbook (1976-1977) Easiest way to reach me is email. Bill -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

22 years, 4 months

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Search engines for networks?

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: I'm looking for a search engine I can use on my network in the house. I remember a long time ago (1998 or so), before the "browser wars" AltaVista distributed a "personal AltaVista" that you could use on a personal computer to allow for indexing/searching a local machine/network. This was at the time that AltaVista was owned by Digital. I found a lot of announcements of the product but no actual download points. Does anyone have this or something else I can use internally? The server runs Windows NT Server and I can install IIS. Thanks. Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

22 years, 4 months

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Bit Rot?

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Scott Stevens" <sastevens(a)earthlink.net> > >On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 10:35:44 -0700 (PDT) >Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote: > >> >> Is there a good description of the various forms of ROM/PROM/EPROM bit rot >> phenomena on the web somewhere? Or could someone provide a good >> description? >> >> I know in the case of EPROMs the charge will eventually "leak". And with >> masked ROMs and PROMs the "fuse" can actual re-grow and turn a 0 into a 1. >> >> We've discussed it briefly before. More detailed information would be >> appreciated. Thanks! >> > >Masked ROMs don't really have a 'fuse' to regrow. If Masked ROM parts start degrading, just about any other silicon is going to start having the same problems. Hi No, mask ROM are not the same as PROMs that have fuses. These only fail when a transistor fails. There are no fuses blown in a mask ROM. There are wires that are there or not there >from the begining. Nothing to regrow. > >I'd like a reference to good information on this topic, as well. We should all be backing up our EPROMs. The EPROMs on my SIM-4 still have there original data ( 1702A's ). I've made both EPROM and on disk copies. These are about '73 someplace. Not to bad for part that were only suppose to hold for 10 years. > >An interesting unrelated side topic is the phenomenon of the Light Emitting EPROM. Has anybody else ever wired one of these into a circuit? (you do it by plugging the EPROM into the socket backwards) They only emit light for a few minutes this way. But yes, there is a nice orange low. All ROMs can suffer from the effects of EM ( electro-migration ). They can suffer from impurity ions as well. Copper and sodium are real bad. Dwight

22 years, 4 months

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Transera HTbasic

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I found a copy of this the other day. It's a program that runs on a PC and acts like the BASIC used on the HP 9000 series 200/300 computers. I got the complete package including orignal disks, registartion, etc EXCEPT for the dongle :-( It won't run without the dongle. Does anyone know how to bypass the dongle check or does anyone have a working copy of HTBasic that they can send me? Joe

22 years, 4 months

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Enigma

by marvin＠rain.org

In checking some other stuff, I just ran across a neat site dealing with the ENIGMA CIPHER MACHINES among other antique cipher machines and calculators. The main page site is W1TP TELEGRAPH AND SCIENTIFIC INSTRUMENT MUSEUMS, and has some pretty interesting stuff on it! http://w1tp.com/

22 years, 4 months

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truckoad of DEC-11 parts

by tradde＠excite.com

I sent the guy a message via eBay asking for more details. Nothing so far. Like Brad I may try to take a look if I can get his address and permission to stop by. How can he expect much interest if he does not at least give some details on what's there. Tim R _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

22 years, 4 months

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Identification of an old machine

by dmcq＠fano.demon.co.uk

Just saw an old query using vivisimo in your group about the Wireless World computer. If you want to see if it was what you were talking about I've got a couple of pages scanned in: http://www.fano.demon.co.uk/history/WWcomp.html The basic model didn't have patch leads so it may not be that - but there were plans for programming it via an expansion patch panel. hope this helps David McQuillan -- David McQuillan

22 years, 4 months

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Bit Rot?

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> An interesting unrelated side topic is the phenomenon of the > Light Emitting EPROM. Has anybody else ever wired one of these > into a circuit? I saw that done to the final remaining copy of a control system EPROM that we had here. Fixing it for long enough to read was something of an achievement. Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

22 years, 4 months

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FW: We have old Univac Manuals

by chaswynne＠comcast.net

-----Original Message----- From: Charles Hammes [mailto:chaswynne@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 2:26 PM To: 'cctalk-admin(a)type.domain.here' Subject: We have old Univac Manuals We have old Univac manuals - for the Univac I, II Programming Conventions, III Operations Manual, Univac 1004 Card Processor Reference, Univac Solid State 90 General Description, Programming, Applications, Univac Solid State 80 Reference, General Description, Operations, Programming, Remington Rand High-Speed Printer Programmers and Operations Manual, Univac Generalized Programming, .... among others. They are a bit musty. Would anyone be interested? Contact us at Inetbox(a)comcast.net Charlie

22 years, 4 months

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HP21X tape drive

by gksloane＠hotmail.com

Still have any HP21xx stuff for sale? I have a 2116B (working) and could use periperals, options, software, manuals, spares, etc... Gary _________________________________________________________________ Free up your inbox with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Multiple plans available. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave…

22 years, 4 months

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Enigma

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Apr 5, 20:06, Jules Richardson wrote: > On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 19:28, Dwight K. Elvey wrote: > > > > They showed a solid state enigma machine that you can get. > > You can get these ones from Bletchley: > > https://secure.bletchleypark.org.uk/newshop/shopcategory.asp?productcode=EN… > > (sorry for any line wrapping) It didn't linewrap, but it doesn't display in Netscape. I'd have been interested in this, but all I can see is a pretty blue background :-( The page isn't valid HTML, and has a few mistakes in it. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 4 months

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Atari ST

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Hi people! I'm looking for two things (one or the other). A Manual for an AERCO Easie-ST Ram upgrade Kit for the Atari 520-ST. OR An upgrade kit to upgrade an Atari ST to 4mb of RAM. I have an Aerco Adapter that isn't working, and I think I need the manual to tech it out, AND to upgrade it to 4mb of RAM. I have a Spectre-128 for it, and I'd love to be able to use this machine as a MacPlus for kicks. But 512k isn't enough RAM to do anything useful. Also.. Looking for a SCSI Adapter for the ST as well. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

22 years, 4 months

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8-level punched tape on eBay

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Paul Koning" <pkoning(a)equallogic.com> > >>>>>> "John" == John Lawson <jpl15(a)panix.com> writes: > > John> Maybe this guy is unwittingly cutting up and selling the last > John> remaining bootloader tape for...... ? machine ? > > John> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3714975807&category=12 > > John> Also could be machine tool NC tape - dunno - > >NC looks like a good theory -- the patterns seem suspiciously regular >for a program tape. > >The comment made earlier about P.T.Barnum's rule seems to apply >here... > > paul > > Hi I think I can just read it. It says something like " you are a sucker " over and over. ( just kidding but that what you'd be to buy it for more than $.50 ). Dwight

22 years, 4 months

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Bit Rot?

by vcf＠siconic.com

Is there a good description of the various forms of ROM/PROM/EPROM bit rot phenomena on the web somewhere? Or could someone provide a good description? I know in the case of EPROMs the charge will eventually "leak". And with masked ROMs and PROMs the "fuse" can actual re-grow and turn a 0 into a 1. We've discussed it briefly before. More detailed information would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 4 months

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8-level punched tape on eBay

by jpl15＠panix.com

Maybe this guy is unwittingly cutting up and selling the last remaining bootloader tape for...... ? machine ? Like Lizt finding Bach's original mauscripts being used to wrap fish in... Anyway: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3714975807&category=12 Also could be machine tool NC tape - dunno - Cheerz John

22 years, 4 months

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IMSAI / SOL-20 / Northstar + much other for sale

by bemrich＠hamilton-exhibits.com

How much for the Altair 8800? Brian Emrich (317) 797-4546 emrichbke(a)aol.com Thank you.

22 years, 4 months

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Enigma

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Marvin Johnston" <marvin(a)rain.org> > > >In checking some other stuff, I just ran across a neat site dealing with >the ENIGMA CIPHER MACHINES among other antique cipher machines and >calculators. The main page site is W1TP TELEGRAPH AND SCIENTIFIC >INSTRUMENT MUSEUMS, and has some pretty interesting stuff on it! > >http://w1tp.com/ > Hi In one of the magazines I saw yesterday at the news stand ( forget the name but it is one of those general science like magazines ). They showed a solid state enigma machine that you can get. It basically was a keyboard, lights and a uP on a PC board. I wonder if one can set the number of wheels and the other features that the fancier machines had? Dwight

22 years, 4 months

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Motorola M68HC11EVM?

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

> does nayone have a user's manual for this board or a link to one on the >net? I spend quite a bit of time searching the net and found ONE place that >is supposed to have it (in Poland) but their link is dead. Anybody know >what the differences are between this board and the M68HC11EVB? > > Joe The main difference between the EVM and the EVB are that the EVB is essentially just a single board computer - you can load code into it and run it, and you can hook up things to the I/O ports via board connectors. The EVM is much more powerful - it includes some in-circuit emulation capability. It has a connector with adapters to fit into the MCU socket for a number of HC11 variants, and allows you to replace the target CPU with the board. The EVM also has a ZIP socket with the ability to program the on-board EEPROM of some HC11 variants. I have the MC68HC11EVM manual, but not in "electric" form - worse case I could unbind it (it's only stapled) and scan it... But that would involve a fair bit of time... so "try real hard" to find another source first - if you don't come up with anything, contact me. Regards, -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector.

22 years, 4 months

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Apple Computer Collecting

by marvin＠rain.org

What in the Apple line of computers, etc. is worth keeping, i.e. hardware, software, documentation, and books? Besides the Apple I, are there any other "holy grail" type of items? I have several Apple printers including the Imagewriter and Imagewriter II. Are these as common as dirt so I don't have to feel bad about getting rid of them, or are they worth putting up on the Vintage Computer Marketplace? I *think* the only Apple IIx I don't have is the orginal Apple II and the "Black" Apple II+, and I would still like to keep one each of the II line. The only Macs I am keeping are the original 128K Macs, and maybe one of the 512K machines.

22 years, 4 months

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digital "test connectors"

by auringer＠tds.net

Hello again, I have the three following digital test connectors. All in good condition. I really have no idea what they are worth and really don't want to take the time/effort to ebay/VCM them. Any offers? H3271 Staggered Turnaround Test Connector (DZ11[-x]) H325 Line loopback test connector(DMV11, DMP11, DMR11, DPV11, DUP11, DV11, DZ11, DZV11) H315B MODEM TEST CONN Jon Jon Auringer auringer(a)tds.net

22 years, 4 months

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Motorola M68HC11EVM?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

does nayone have a user's manual for this board or a link to one on the net? I spend quite a bit of time searching the net and found ONE place that is supposed to have it (in Poland) but their link is dead. Anybody know what the differences are between this board and the M68HC11EVB? Joe

22 years, 4 months

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Ebay schematic for those who want to build their own VAX

by vax3900＠yahoo.com

A lot of them. But I don't have the budget for any of those... Go ahead __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

22 years, 4 months

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PC-BLUE disks...

by geneb＠deltasoft.com

I recall seeing someone looking for the PC-BLUE disks recently. Here you go: http://cd.textfiles.com/pcblue/ There are over 200 disks in the archive. g.

22 years, 4 months

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Sales Brochure Collectors

by cvendel＠att.net

If you're into collecting computer sales brochures and catalogs either for collecting purposes or for content for your website, have a look at these Mac, Amiga and Towns FM "Marty" items: http://www.bidiots.com/search.asp?searchtxt=brochure&catid=&searchtype=0 Curt

22 years, 4 months

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HP 200LX

by r_a_feldman＠hotmail.com

J West wrote: >I have quite a few flash cards from cisco routers and other devices, but >NONE are recognized by the 200LX. Anyone have a flash card that works in a >200LX they would be willing to trade? SanDisk SDP3B series PCMCIA flash cards work in the HP 200LX -- I have an 85MB one -- and are fairly common and inexpensive on eBay. You can also get a CF card and an adapter. On cards larger than 512MB, you might need the ACECARD driver, available from SUPER (http://www.palmtop.net/super.html). Bob _________________________________________________________________ Find a broadband plan that fits. Great local deals on high-speed Internet access. https://broadband.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/

22 years, 4 months

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atc-510 simulator

by Joe＠Farley.net

Michael, I found the following on a message board while surfing for info on the ATC-510 Simulator. =========================================== atc-510 simulator Michael Wallin mwallin at cinci.rr.com Wed Mar 3 14:38:16 CST 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Doug- hello, not to be a pest, but I was about to list some accessories for my old atc-510 flight simulator on ebay. I searched the internet for atc-510 simulator, and only came up with a handful of results. One of them was a thread where you said you were looking for something for your 510. Please let me know 1) if you still have the unit and 2) if you are looking for any accessories. thanks for your time and sorry to bother you, Mike =========================================== I own one of these which is complete and operational with the rudder pedeles, owners manual, programing manual, and service manual. I also have VOl 1 and VOL 8 of the instruction tapes and charts. I am looking for VOL 2 thru VOL 7 of the tapes and charts. If you have these and would be willing to sell or duplicate them I would be willing to pay you a reasonable price plus actual shipping. If you no longer have them or are not interested accept my appology for bothering you in advance. Thanks Joe Farley (415) 892-2334 cell (415) 827-0601 Joe(a)Farley.net (PDT)

22 years, 4 months

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VMS 5.5 ISO

by zibri＠worldonline.it

Hi! I wish to run VMS 5.5 on SIMH. Unfortunately compaq/hp offers hobbyst licenses for openvms not for the old vms 5.5. Do you know where could I find any version of VMS in iso format to download ? Another chance could be to backup VMS 5.5 from a running VAX... I don't know what to do.. please ! I'm a nostalgic of VAX/VMS :) ------ If You Think Something Is Impossible, Be Prepared For The Incredible.

22 years, 4 months

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Looking for cable TV card for Mac

by anheier＠owt.com

I am trying to help a friend locate a cable tuner board with cable TV type connector that came with some of the school 5400/200's. If anyone has a spare, please send up a flare. Thanks Norm

22 years, 4 months

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Ebay schematic for those who want to build their own VAX

by aek＠spies.com

I've scanned all of these already. Some are up on bitsavers.

22 years, 4 months

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Honeywell DPS-6 and other stuff

by aek＠spies.com

> Something with model number B01730 (the only information I have on this) Burroughs B1730 ?

22 years, 4 months

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FCC Licensing of Personal Computers

by rdd＠rddavis.org

April 1, 2004 Associatid Press, Washington - The United States Federal Communications Commission, as part of a joint project funded by the Department of Defense, has approved measures to begin requiring US consumers to obtain licenses for all new personal computers purchased after January, 2005. "It's basically the same process that CB radio owners had to go through in the 1970's, only we require a slight ammount of additional information.", said Lance O. Onie, director of the FCC's PC Freedom Initiative. Purchasers of new PCs will have to fill out a simple "one step" form, with only the following information: The purchaser's Social Security number, current address, e-mail address(es), date of birth, driver's license number and the computer's CPU's unique serial number. "By requiring the driver's license number, we are able to simplify things by not requiring consumers to be inconvenienced by having their photos taken for inclusion in our database; we can just get that data >from the states in which they're licensed.", Onie was quick to point out as a benifit of this simplified procedure. The user will be able to access the CPU's serial number through the use of a computer program distributed on a CD ROM with each new PC sold. The program must remain installed on the computer whenever the computer is used with the Internet. Owners of older computers will be exempt from this new law until December 25, 2006, "giving them plenty of time to upgrade their systems as necessary in order to comply with the new law", says Onie, who commented that this program will also be "very helpful to the economy." After that time, the FCC will work with the CIA, state and local law enforcement officials to conduct random high-tech sweeps throughout the country to check for the illegal possession and use of unregistered computing equipment. Fines and penalties were not specified, but sources say that illegal possession will be considered to be a very serious offense, necessary for the freedom, safety and well-being of all Americans. -- Copyright (C) 2003 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved | My VAX | an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & www.rddavis.org | runs VMS & | her other creatures, using dogma to justify such 410-744-4900 | doesn't crash!| beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

22 years, 4 months

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Spare .22uf@X film capacitor anyone?

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, I don't know whether this has anything to do with the unfortunate storage 'facility' (I use the word loosely) forced on the volunteers at Bletchley Park, but yesterday I rescued a DEC GIGI that was stuck (?) to a shelf and left it in bits on a big radiator to get rid of any lurking dampness. Unfortunately my ol' enemy the failing film capacitor got me again and now the room stinks :) http://www.wowrarelook.co.uk/magicsmoke.jpg Anyone got a spare 0.22uF@X (40/085/56 PME271)) and a 0.1uF@X (ditto)? So far the 0.1uF one is cracked and hasn't blown yet; obviously I don't trust it to last much longer! Thanks! -- Adrian/Witchy Owner & Webmaster, Binary Dinosaurs www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(

22 years, 4 months

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Rare Computers.

by genemosher＠comcast.net

I have some Motorola PowerPC's, too. And one of the first Apple ]['s

22 years, 4 months

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Apple ProFile interface protocol?

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi, I gather the interface for Apple ProFile drives is just parallel - is the actual protocol documented anywhere? I'm tempted to have the /// on display at the museum, but am less keen on having the ProFile units there - but emulating one with something else (eg. PC host) might be a possibility if the protocol is simple enough. (I'd also quite like to get all the existing data off the ProFile drives) cheers Jules

22 years, 4 months

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PERQ cpu technical manual

by aek＠spies.com

> Does anyone have 1a schems? Should do, but I don't have a scanner. If all you want is the CPU diagrams to go with the TechRef, then the PERQ 2T1 or 2T2 CPU schematics are the same, and they're not too hard to find. What I don't think anyone has is the T4 schematics, although you can deduce a bit of them from the TechRef. -- Is there anyone near Tony that would be able to make copies of these so they can be scanned and added to the archives?

22 years, 4 months

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PERQ cpu technical manual

by aek＠spies.com

http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/perq/PERQ_CPU_Tech_Ref.pdf Finally got around to converting this from LaTeX to pdf. Does anyone have 1a schems?

22 years, 4 months

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Digital Equipment stuff available

by oldbear＠arctos.com

It's finally come to that time when I have to reduce the amount of stuff I have been hoarding. (My wife wants to move to a smaller house.) I have a number of items of DEC hardware and software from around 1980. I haven't done a complete inventory, but among the items are: 2 Rainbow 100 personal computers both with hard disk (5mB? 10mB?), extended memory and accessory "I-drive" for reading IBM pc-format double sided diskettes. 1 Decmate II word-processor using PDP-8 architecture in a form factor similar to the Rainbow. 1 Decmate word-processor. This is a the VT-100 type terminal containing a PDP-8 processor, mounted on a pedestal base which contains dual 8-inch floppy drives and power supply. (The VT-100 type keyboard has some missing key caps.) 3 VR-201 monitors (At least one is amber, the others are green and possibly white phosphor CRTs.) 2 VR-241 RGB color monitors incl. BNC cables. 1 VT-240 serial terminal 3 LK-201 keyboards. Two of these have the "gold key" word processing key caps. 1 Floor stand for Rainbow. Holds system unit in a vertical position. Designed by DEC for proper airflow. 1 LQP-02 wide letter-quality impact printer. 1 Diablo 620 daisy-wheel impact printer with selectable serial or parallel interface. 2 LA-50 dot matrix printers. 2 DECpc 420sx personal computers. Interconnecting cables for the monitors and printers, etc. Many various "DEC certified" software packages. 3rd party software for things like graphic design, calendaring, telecom, etc. DEC handbooks, support documents, catalogs of DEC and 3rd party software, users group newsletters, early FIDO bbs software and manuals, transcripts of online discussions about DEC pc hardware, and more. Several boxes of 8-inch diskettes for use in the RX01 drives of the Decmate I. Color plastic storage boxes for these diskettes. Also, DEC-formatted 5.25-inch diskettes for Rainbow and DECmate II. Printer ribbons, extra daisy-wheels in many fonts, some internal components such as OEM disk mounting hardware and cables for the Rainbows, etc. I am located in an inner suburb of Boston and would like to send all this stuff to be adopted by a good home. If interested, please email me at oldbear(a)arctos.com Regards, Will

22 years, 4 months

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Stuff for Sale

by marvin＠rain.org

In an effort to get a place to move around, I am starting to move stuff out, and am putting stuff up regularly on the Vintage Computer Marketplace. One question: if anyone is interested in the older PC cards, motherboards, full height floppy drives, some S-100 stuff, etc., etc., etc., is it better to sell it untested at a low price, or sell it tested/working and raise the price? Is there any interest in older databooks? There are still some people I owe stuff to and as I run across it, I'll get in touch via email. No, I am not getting out of collecting but I *need* to get some space to work :)!!!

22 years, 4 months

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Looking for mac Plus info

by chris＠udderdestruction.net

With the talk in the past about the serial numbers for older Macs. I have a couple questions, that perhaps could be answered here, or point me in the right direction. A few years ago I picked up a old Plus to convert into an aquarium (I know, I know; but it was a fun idea). I had never quite seem a Plus like this before. It had a Sticker to denote it was a plus. It did not have printing or a platic label. It was simply a sticker. Now, Plus was stolen (why people stole it was beyond me), but I am still curious of the history that Mac may have had. I'd love to hear of any thoughts or such. I still have the keyboard and mouse from it, but I trashed the dot-matrix years ago. It was also an apple printer, but I was never able to id it. Wasn't and LQ or a first gen imagewriter. Very wide but not descript. Thoughts on that? Thanks for all. Chris

22 years, 4 months

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IBM VGA Displays?

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote: > Is anyone interested in IBM Type 8512 (14") or 8514 (17") VGA displays > (circa late 1980s, PS/2)? Does 8512 work? If it does, I'm interested. I have an 8512 that appears toast. I also have a working 8503, but it's monochrome. I'm also still looking for an original IBM VGA card for ISA, which they call (rather confusingly) IBM PS/2 Display Adapter. MS P.S. John, your 8503 works, so you can cash my check.

22 years, 4 months

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IBM VGA Displays?

by vcf＠siconic.com

Is anyone interested in IBM Type 8512 (14") or 8514 (17") VGA displays (circa late 1980s, PS/2)? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 4 months

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Apple Computer Collecting

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

>How did you get the Mac on the network? Is it through your server somehow, >as in 'services for macintosh'? Several of mine have some sort of >connectivity, ie they have netscape or some browser, and I have two NICs. >I'd love to get at least one on the internet through my lan. The last one I >got has os8 so I figure it is probably the most suitable. Any tips or can >you point to a site that will explain it in the layman's terms I need. >Thanks! >bm I got my quadra800 with PPC card up on running on my lan and it gets net access just fine. I did not use open transport and had to configure macTCP to work with an Asante NIC rather than the onboard one since I didnt have the special cable for it. With the Asante NIC, I have to run that to a 10megabit hub then chain that into the 10/100 switch. Otherwise, it would never establish a connection. -- I am not willing to give up my liberties for the appearance of 'security'

22 years, 4 months

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Looking for mac Plus info

by sml49＠comcast.net

> A few years ago I picked up a old Plus to convert into an aquarium (I know, > I know; but it was a fun idea). I had never quite seem a Plus like this > before. It had a Sticker to denote it was a plus. It did not have printing > or a platic label. It was simply a sticker. > > Now, Plus was stolen (why people stole it was beyond me), but I am still > curious of the history that Mac may have had. > > I'd love to hear of any thoughts or such. I still have the keyboard and > mouse from it, but I trashed the dot-matrix years ago. It was also an apple > printer, but I was never able to id it. Wasn't and LQ or a first gen > imagewriter. Very wide but not descript. Thoughts on that? It might have been an upgraded 512K Mac; I believe there was a Plus upgrade for those. The printer might have been a Wide Carriage Imagewriter. There's a story that goes with that item: "... As Cary and I walked past Steve's office, we heard him yelling at the printer guys, reminding them that every Wide Carriage ImageWriter built with the hard-to-get microcontroller would likely cost the company a Mac sale. "If you build even one of those Wide ImageWriters?", and then he told them about a certain part of their anatomy that would be "cut off" if that happened. The printer guys looked like they would rather be anywhere else than right where they were. Before too much longer, Apple did ship the Wide Carriage ImageWriter, the microcontroller shortage cleared up, and I always felt privileged to have experienced so much about the Mac division on my first day....." The whole story is at http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=First_Day_in_t he_Mac_Group.txt&sortOrder=Sort+by+Date Seth Lewin

22 years, 4 months

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Apple Computer Collecting

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I'd say any of the technical books from Addison-Wesley are worth keeping. Ive got the BASIC programming with ProDOS and it's pretty detailed. There were so many neat options back in the day. For example, I've got a ][+ with a special 80column card designed for it that could run a patched version of Appleworks. It also had a replacement encoder board to do lowercase and had macro capability. Of course, the apple SCSI card is worth looking for. I've got one and tried to connect a drive and no luck. Will have to try again. The //c+ is pretty neat. I eventually got one, but they are not easy to find. If you can find a working Apple /// or ///+ get it. I lucked out and got a complete functional one with hard drive and original disks. And of course, the LCD display for the //c. >>What in the Apple line of computers, etc. is worth keeping, i.e. >>hardware, software, documentation, and books? Besides the Apple I, are >>there any other "holy grail" type of items?

22 years, 4 months

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Help with a Power Supply

by jhfinexgs2＠compsys.to

I could use some help with what seems to be a BAD power supply. For the past month, I started to experience more and more frequent crashes of the system. About 2 weeks ago, I figured that it seemed to be the power supply and I started to use an external power supply for the 3 hard disk drives. That solved the problem and a few days ago, I replaced the internal power supply so that now the 3 hard drives are back on the new internal power supply with the rest of the system (and it is now very quiet again since the external power supply had a noisy fan!). Since I am not Tony Duell, I will just be tossing the old power supply. However, before that, I would like to know if there is a simple way to test the old power supply to determine if that was the actual problem? Please don't mention anything that requires me to open up the old power supply. I only have an old analog volt meter and could put a few light bulbs into a test circuit, but that is about the limit! It really is not that important, but it sure would be interesting to know if that was the specific problem. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

22 years, 4 months

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Someone is taking the piss...

by mross666＠hotmail.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4121020871 further comment would be prosaic. Mike http://www.corestore.org _________________________________________________________________ Free up your inbox with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Multiple plans available. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave…

22 years, 4 months

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Wire wrap tools on eBay

by vcf＠siconic.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3807467404&category=36329 -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 4 months

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Someone is taking the piss...

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I had written.... > >Why do I have a sneaky suspicion that this VT100 has been recently > >repainted. I was incorrect, the seller mentioned in the previous post is not in fact who I was concerned it may be. My apologies for the aspersion! Jay

22 years, 4 months

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**************Re: Mattel intellivision

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Try: http://www.intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/media/index.html On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:46:35 -0700 "Ed Sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net> writes: > is there any Mattel manuals or sales lit. out there online? we need > some > visuals to go with the machine we are adding to the display > here... > > thanks ed sharpe archivist for smecc > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Witchy" <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> > To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" > <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:23 PM > Subject: Mattel intellivision > > > > Hi folks, > > > > Anyone have any troubleshooting expertise on these things? Got one > of my > > spares out for sale and typically the bloody thing is pretty dead. > I say > > *pretty* dead 'cos I get the cart intro screen on power up, but > with the > > computer module attached I get nothing. I've left it powered up > for 15 > > minutes in case it's a warm up problem but that makes matters > worse :) > > > > According to the service manual I have to replace either the RAM > or CPU in > > that order, but since spares for those will come from working > intellivisions > > I don't want to do that! Also, off the top of my head I can't > think of any > > other videogames that use the General Instruments GI1610 CPU, > assuming > it's > > that that's croaked. The RAM is a GI-specific chip too. Spares, > anyone? > > > > TIA :) > > > > -- > > Adrian/Witchy > > Owner & Webmaster, Binary Dinosaurs > > www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online > computer > museum > > www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o( > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

22 years, 4 months

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LPS11 schematics

by aek＠spies.com

www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/unibus/LPS11_schem_Nov72.pdf

22 years, 4 months

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Matrix 3U CPU card?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I found several of these a few days ago but I can't find anything about them or the company that made them on the net. They're 3U type cards with 68000-10 CPUs and are marked MATRIX MS-CPU-02C. I found one mention of a computer company called Matrix in an old copy of a VME news letter and they said that the URL for Matrix is www.matrix.com but now that URL belongs to a company that supplies hair care products. Does anyone know any more about Matrix or these cards? Joe

22 years, 4 months

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HP9826 Question - Basic 5.12 and such

by keith＠saracom.com

Hello all, I have a question or 2 to ask on the HP9826. I am now the proud owner of the labs old system. Now I have several issues to resolve. The first is the reason I have and the lab does not. The display is out of focus and not too bright. I have tried to adjust using the pots inside labeled focus brightness. It helped alittle but not much. Any ideas? Also its no fun without an OS. Now we have BASIC Ver 5.12 at the lab. Unfortunately its on 3 1/2 inch diskettes and the HP9826 has a 5 1/4 diskette drive. Hence short of using a mallet that won't help. So is there a method of using a PC to make 5 1/4s for it since I do have the 3 1/2s? Thanks Max

22 years, 4 months

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Diskette drives available

by acme＠gbronline.com

A friend has some diskette drives available. Please contact Jack Boatwright directly jboatno4(a)outlawnet.com if you're interested. He probably doesn't want much for them. 13 - 3.5" floppies (all 720K) 04 - 5.25" half-height floppies (size unknown, 360K?) 02 - 5.25" full-height floppies (size unknown, 360K?) 01 - 5.25 full-height floppy (DSQD) Additionally, he is selling off some very unusual Timex Sinclair clones on eBay (Jack most likely has the largest collection of Timex Sinclair related items on Earth). Search for seller jboatno4. Later -- Glen 0/0

22 years, 4 months

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Amarillo auction

by tponsford＠theriver.com

I only got this auction email today, and hopefulltythis will be posted to the list before Sat morn. I hate when they send me the notice the day before the auction. Anybody in the Amarillo, Tx area? Amarillo by morning? The auction list shows a vt102 and a micro-pdp among hundreds of lots of peecee stuff. The stuff goes to the dumpster if not sold. list: http://www.bentleysauction.com/misc/catalogs/ama040304.txt -- --- Please do not read this sig. If you have read this far, please unread back to the beginning.

22 years, 4 months

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OT: One for the Good Guys

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi All I love it. There is nothing worse than getting hundreds of incorrect address notices from people you know you never sent anything to. I just wonder if they can catch them all. Many are outside of the country. Dwight >From: Patrick <patrick(a)vintagecomputermarketplace.com> >Headline: "JURY FINDS BUFFALO SPAMMER GUILTY OF IDENTITY THEFT AND FORGERY" > >>From the text: "He was also found guilty of falsifying business records of >EarthLink, when he forged the headers of email sent from the EarthLink >accounts." > >Hmmm... if this is upheld, it has the beginnings of a major blow to that >"industry", perhaps. --Patrick > >http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2004/apr/apr1b_04.html > > >

22 years, 4 months

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OT: One for the Good Guys

by patrick＠VintageComputerMarketplace.com

Headline: "JURY FINDS BUFFALO SPAMMER GUILTY OF IDENTITY THEFT AND FORGERY" >From the text: "He was also found guilty of falsifying business records of EarthLink, when he forged the headers of email sent from the EarthLink accounts." Hmmm... if this is upheld, it has the beginnings of a major blow to that "industry", perhaps. --Patrick http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2004/apr/apr1b_04.html

22 years, 4 months

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Mattel intellivision

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, Anyone have any troubleshooting expertise on these things? Got one of my spares out for sale and typically the bloody thing is pretty dead. I say *pretty* dead 'cos I get the cart intro screen on power up, but with the computer module attached I get nothing. I've left it powered up for 15 minutes in case it's a warm up problem but that makes matters worse :) According to the service manual I have to replace either the RAM or CPU in that order, but since spares for those will come from working intellivisions I don't want to do that! Also, off the top of my head I can't think of any other videogames that use the General Instruments GI1610 CPU, assuming it's that that's croaked. The RAM is a GI-specific chip too. Spares, anyone? TIA :) -- Adrian/Witchy Owner & Webmaster, Binary Dinosaurs www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(

22 years, 4 months

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Help with early Mac serial numbers

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I pulled one of my early 128k Mac's from storage for part of a Apple display I'm doing on the 17th and was trying to find out the breakdown of the serial number. The number on the unit is F40220FM0001 and I'm guessing that the two F's are just there for show and that 40220 is the serial number and M0001 is the model number? Is this correct?

22 years, 4 months

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Paging Gary Hildebrand...

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

Gary I sent you a private e-mail yesterday. Please let me know if you did/did not recieve it. Thanks David david(a)dynamicconcepts.us

22 years, 4 months

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ASCII Art (Was Re: FCC Licensing of Personal Computers)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Apr 1, 20:16, Christopher McNabb wrote: > Well, it's not strictly porno, but I do have the Mona Lisa printed out > on nice wide green-bar paper hanging in my cube. I also have the Basic > Plus program and data file. Could I get a copy of that? > I think that www.textfiles.com might have a bunch of ASCII art, if they > are still around. I have a collection rescued from a few tapes about 10-15 years ago, which I can put on my website if anyone wants them. Some of it is very small simple files, some are fairly ambitious and run to a few 100K bytes, and I have some VT100 display hacks as well, about 12MB in all. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 4 months

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Heathkit et-1000

by DFoster＠aol.com

Dear Kevin: I've been browsing the web for a schematic for the Heathkit ET-1000 digital trainer and I saw your posting. The unit has been fully repaired, but I'm still worried about future repairs. By any chance or design, do you have a schematic you could fax or email me? It would even be helpful (and perhaps sufficient) if you could identify the DIP chip on the Main Board (not the Power Supply board) that is labeled "2206CP 8271". Might it be a function generator chip? NTE and other sources do not list what this chip is or what it does. Anyway, if you still have data on the ET-1000 help would be very much appreciated! Thanks, Dave (DFoster(a)aol.com)

22 years, 4 months

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AIX

by ceby2＠csc.com

All -- < RANT_MODE=1 > Sorry, I never could pass up an internecine fued of the UNIXes.... I'd like to go on the record. I love AIX. And there are a couple of bullet points we've missed in our description of it. The most important is its underlying object repository. This may have been the seed of the AIX vs. AS/400 thread. AIX invented the central system registry long before Microsoft. That's the engine behind its package and device management. It's the underlying engine most of the standard admin commands ultimately converse with. Very un-UNIX - and thank you to the IBM _wunderkinder_ for that. UNIX is a wonderful thing, but why must we live in a timewarp where anything not envisioned in the 1980s isn't "real UNIX". Let's move on shall we? Linux is a good example. It's based on a complete rewrite of Minix, itself a complete rewrite of AT&T System V. By all means, let's preserve the vintage, and don't throw the baby out with the bath water. But why should the UNIX community turn Luddite? IBM as we've all said, did a rewrite of the kernel. Rather than porting System V and glomming on some Berkely additions, IBM re-engineered the code >from scratch. In the upcoming version, they are doing it again to accomodate even more robust enterprise configurations with sub-CPU LPARs and mainframe like accounting/management facilities on a rapidly advancing 64-bit CPU design. It's my own assessment they are moving AIX to the top of the tree for big iron, and moving the zOS hardware toward commodity Linux VMing. It's a move that follows the market's application development trend for enterprise systems. Thee development community writes more for big Unix, so this is perfectly sensible. Just to keep this post from being too out of thread, I might just mention my 10 year old 990 and 390 RS/6000s are still wonderful machines to work on now. I use the 390 as a graphic station (if you could believe it). It scans and GIMPs with the best of them. Only compression routines make it slow down. The I/O's faster than the laptop I'm writing this post on. Okay, < RANT_MODE=0 > Colin

22 years, 5 months

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FCC Licensing of Personal Computers

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Brad Parker <brad(a)heeltoe.com> wrote: > Just curious - are you using iverilog? Yes. > I wonder about viewing waveforms, however. Well, it says you can use GTKWave, and I assume it works, but I myself don't need any pretty pictures: I personally can see whether my logic works right or not from textual simulation output better than from pics. My brain prefers text to graphics in absolutely every area of life. MS

22 years, 5 months

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working magnetic drum stores?

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Just out of curiousity, does anyone still have a working drum storage device? wondering if any working examples have survived... I have a half-assed plan to try and find one from somewhere at some point. We have a Sperry unit that's way beyond repair, and don't have anything other than the drum assembly itself anyway (the bearings still seem good though so I might see if it can be coaxed into spinning) - but a working demonstration would be great hooked up to one of the 1960's machines. I gather that telphone exchanges used to use them here in the UK so maybe there are still a few lurking in private hands as they must have been reasonably common at one point. The flipside of course being that they're pretty bulky devices in themselves, and with the low reliability they've maybe all gone to scrap years ago (unlike other peripherals of the area which survived). cheers Jules

22 years, 5 months

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FCC Licensing of Personal Computers

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Roger Merchberger <zmerch(a)30below.com> wrote: > >[snip] My brain prefers > >text to graphics in absolutely every area of life. > > Including Porn??? :-O ;-) Well, since I'm absolutely loyal to my fiance, I am not interested in porn, but for those who are, yes you CAN have ASCII porn. Not too long ago I was chatting on IRC and a gal joined the channel I was on. Some guy asked her if he could see her tits. She replied: (@) (@) So ASCII works for porn too. MS

22 years, 5 months

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fwd: wanted: xxdp v1 handbook, available: running pdp11-84, US west coast

by akb+lists.cctech＠imap1.mirror.to

Forwarded... contact original author with any help or inquiries; he's not on the cctech list. Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:17:13 -0800 From: Mike Koon <mikekoon(a)comcast.net> To: [...] Subject: xxdp v1 handbook,and running pdp11-84 [...] My name is Mike Koon, and I maintain PDP 11-70's and an 11-84 at a west coast newspaper. We will be removing these running machines any time between May 1,2004, and August sometime. Are you interested in having these for your museum? They have an interesting device attached to them, called a PCL, which was a early DEC networking system. I haven't talked to the owner, but I would think that they would give them to you. Let me know. Also, I am Looking for a copy of the XXDP-11M+ Diagnostic handbook, or Card. I am looking for the procedure for building a v-1 diag. tape, from disk, to tape. Let me know - Mike Koon Mike Koon(a)comcast.net

22 years, 5 months

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KA620

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

der Mouse <mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote: > Possibly - or perhaps a KA620 is one example of an rtVAX, much as a > KA630 is an example of a VAX. You are right of course conceptually. But I'm pretty sure now that KA620 was the only implementation of the rtVAX architecture. > My VARM is "Revision 6.1" and is not obviously marked with an edition > number. 1982-05-20, right? I have that one too, it's my first VARM, one of Tim Shoppa's early gifts to Quasijarus Project. The early VARMs, the EK-VAXAR-RM ones, are lovely: 100% pure ASCII, except for boldface section headers the book is line printer output. From the appearance seems to be very close to the DEC internal VAX spec, DEC STD 032 (though not having a copy of the latter it's an educated guess). But then they stopped issuing VARMs in that format, and published it as a book (with ISBN and all, rather than an EK part #). The book version of VARM had two editions: 1st ed. in 1987 by Tim Leonard (listed as the keeper of the DEC internal VAX spec in an appendix to another highly secretive DEC internal spec I have) and 2nd ed. in 1991 by Richard Brunner (wonder what happened to Tim...). I have acquired both of these books recently. Not having a copy of the genuine article (the DEC internal STD 032 spec) I have to live with the published versions instead, so I was trying to acquire as many of them as possible to complete my mental picture of the complete architecture spec and its variations. (I'm designing a new VAX CPU chip, so I have to have a very solid picture of the spec requirements and options and their evolution.) Would anyone perchance have a copy of the real VAX spec, DEC STD 032 aka EL-00032-00 aka A-DS-EL00032-00-0? > I don't recall seeing an rtVAX mentioned in it, and the index > does not list anything beginning with rt-. Yeah, of course the 1982-05-20 VARM predates it by a few years. Brian Chase <vaxzilla(a)jarai.org> wrote: > The 2nd Ed VARM has a section on rtVAX memory management, 11.2.3 on pgs > 422-424. I don't yet see any other mentions of it the book to indicate > whether it actually is designated as the KA620. Table 8-2 on pp. 331-332 lists the SID code assignments, and 16 decimal is listed as "rt/uVAX (chip 78R32)". Knowing that 78032 is the MicroVAX II chip, used in KA630, KA410 (MV/VS2000), and a bunch of other less-known systems (see the SYS_TYPE codes the same table lists for SID 08), it's pretty obvious that the rtVAX 1000 listed by the table as being based on this 78R32 is the KA620. Since the MMU is internal to the CPU chip, the difference between KA630 and KA620 is in the silicon (78032 vs. 78R32) rather than board-level. MS

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OT uudecode for windows

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Does anyone know of w freebee uudecode for windows? Dwight

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working magnetic drum stores?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Apr 1, 9:39, Paul Koning wrote: > >>>>> "Tony" == Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> writes: > Tony> You hope... If the power fails and your NiCd pack isn't any > Tony> good, then the heads will land on the platter with nasty > Tony> results... > > NiCd? You must be thinking of the big capacitors (not batteries) that > do the emergency head retract in the event of powerfail. Erm, in my RK05s there are NiCd packs which provide the power, and no capacitors in the way. > Tony> Anyway, the 'ting' when the heads load on an RK05 is claimed to > Tony> be the heads bouncing off the platter, so they may well touch > Tony> for an instant. > > I rather doubt that. The sound is no different from the "ting" sound > you hear when the head actuator seeks. It shouldn't 'ting' on a seek! That's a bad sign. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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OT uudecode for windows

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Dwight K. Elvey <dwight.elvey(a)amd.com> wrote: > Does anyone know of w freebee uudecode for windows? If Weendoze can still run DOS executables, this should work for you: ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG:/pub/micro/msdos/interchange/uuencode/ MS

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timex sinclar 1000

by tablab＠kellerits.com

I still have one that my dad purchased it is still in its original Styrofoam with manual and all the parts I even have the warrantee page and the page with the types of cassette players and TVs it is not compatible with and a program my dad wrote for it my husband was laid off and we need the money or I would hold on to it. It is the first home computer he ever bought I remember going with him to get it Let me know if you are still interested in it and how much you might be willing to pay for it I can send you a picture if you wish tablab(a)kellerits.com

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any Honeywell H316 experts out there?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I've come across something very interesting and have some questions. Joe

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Shipping a Teletype - Anyone near Topeka??

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

I'm 75 miles away in St. Joseph, MO, but no wheels until next Wednesday, and will have through Sunday. Nothing worse than to have to rent a car to find another car to buy. Gary Hildebrand > The Teletype in question is actually on the outskirts of Topeka, Ks. > > If there are any list members there who could possibly assist in packaging > it would be greatly appreciated (and a reasonable fee paid) > > The shipper is NOT a collector, rather if a person who "inherited" the TTY > and is basicly clueless [although very nice]. > > David. > >

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FS: KSR-33 "basket case"

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

I have a nearly complete KSR-33 that I'd like to find a good home for. It is literally a basket case - it's in quite a few separate pieces but all there as far as I can tell except for the cover/housing, and possibly a few small springs. Motor is good. I also have a papertape reader assembly but no punch (you'd need an ASR baseplate to make it into an ASR-33). Make me an offer. I'm in West Plains, MO 65775 so you can figure shipping. -Charles

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Shipping a Teletype

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Although, one may have some success by shipping in a cardboard box only ( mine was trashed ), it should be bolted to at least a piece of plywood. If this is put into a box, proper strain relief should be done where plywood edge meets the box. This is so that the plywood doesn't just poke through the box. These units are too heavy to be in a cardboard box alone. Dwight

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debugging a tu58? blank tapes or bad read channel?

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Does anyone have any suggestions about debugging a TU58? This is a dual TU58 from a vax 730. The symptom is that when I try to boot from it the tape rewinds a bunch of times and then reads off the end of the tape. I removed it and poked all around with a scope and the schematics. The motor control is fine as well as the tachometer. The read channel shows no activity, even when I put a tape in and move the tape. The micro seems happy. I connected it to "tu58ctl" and I can talk to it and send/receive commands. But when I try to position the tape I get a "motor stopped" error. I'm begining to wonder if the 3 TU58 carts I have have been bulk erased. I have no "known goods" and I've never read these tapes. I made the assumption they were good but that might be a mistake. (wish I had those mythical proms which can write carts :-) I put a scope on the signal from the read heads and I see nothing when the tape spins by. I find that very odd. I would think I'd see pulses even if the blocks where all zeros... So nothing makes me think the tapes have been bulk erased. Is there any way I can test the read channel without having a good tape? (I assume not, but I know very little about tape drives, perhaps there is some 'technique'). I know the tapes are useless if they have be bulk erased - but will the symptom be no read channel activity? (I assume so). blah. if I've wasted all this time on bulk erased tapes %$#%@#@!#$ -brad

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Looking for spec sheet for MK6207N/MK5017BB clock chip

by dickset＠amanda.spole.gov

I've found an old RadioShack package with an MK5017BB Clock/Calendar chip. Unfortunately, the datasheet which was once stapled to the back of the card is missing. Google doesn't have much on it. One interesting reference is at www.datamath.org/Mostek_IC.htm where the part number is listed in a series of calculator chips (it lists the MK5017 as having been in the Corvus 305 calculator, with square root, 1/x and a clock/calendar). I also found this picture on the die itself... http://www.mindspring.com/~mary.hall/mosteklives/photos/mostek_mickey.jpg But no specs. Does anyone have info on this thing? Thanks, -ethan -- Ethan Dicks, A-130-S Current South Pole Weather at 31-Mar-2004 07:31 Z South Pole Station PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -78.4 F (-61.3 C) Windchill -117.4 F (-83 C) APO AP 96598 Wind 8.5 kts Grid 018 Barometer 675.5 mb (10796. ft) Ethan.Dicks(a)amanda.spole.gov http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html

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finding old RAM

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

SIMMS are the new stuff -- lets talk old, like: 1 meg X 1 bit DRAM in a 20 pin DIP package. I bet most of that has ended up on the landfill by now. I need a large quantity to populate Amiga RAM boards. Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO

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Comparing existence of massive number of files

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Antonio: CDCheck looks like what I need. I can do two checksum files (one on each directory) and compare the results. Thanks a lot for the suggestion. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. First Vice President Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Antonio Carlini Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:12 PM To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: Comparing existence of massive number of files > Any good MD5 utilities for Windows that will handle > large file sets? I downloaded two today but one is a file-by > file MD5 and the other doesn't recurse down the directory > tree...it only does the current directory. These days, when I put together a data CD, I use CDCheck to build a CRC file for it. Once the CD is burned, I verify using the same tool to be sure it all made it onto the CD. I use MD5SUM too, but that does one directory at a time (AFAICT) so it is a little less useful. Antonio -- --------------- Antonio Carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org

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Matrix 3U CPU card?

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Joe R. was asking about Matrix cards We used to have a VME based x-ray film scanner that was a Matrix product, it was a prototype. If I remember correctly I think Matrix was based in California and made film cameras and scanners for industrial applications. Our initial unit had a VME controller with a micro PDP-11 as the network interface. I think I have the micro PDP-11 somewhere in my garage. Looks like Agfa purchased them. Mike

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Comparing existence of massive number of files

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Patrick: Funny you should mention Windiff. After reading the responses today I was going to use Windiff to compare the directory printouts produced on both machines and see if there's a difference in the output. But thinking about it, Windiff has the ability to directly compare directories. If I point it at the top "parent" on each machine I should be able to see differences right away. I guess then the final test would be comparing the MD5's on each directory to ensure file integrity. Any good MD5 utilities for Windows that will handle large file sets? I downloaded two today but one is a file-by file MD5 and the other doesn't recurse down the directory tree...it only does the current directory. Rich -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:54 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; CCTech (E-mail) Subject: RE: Comparing existence of massive number of files Rich, one word: windiff. It's in the NT resource kit, and I think it's in the small version of the kit downloadable at the URL below. --Patrick http://www.microsoft.com/ntworkstation/downloads/recommended/featured/ntkit. asp?SD=GN&LN=EN-US&gssnb=1 > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Richard A. Cini > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:44 PM > To: CCTech (E-mail) > Subject: Comparing existence of massive number of files > > > Hello, all: > > I just moved most of my collection of on-line data to a new > server here at > home. I want to verify that all files have been copied and I > didn't miss any > directories/subdirectories. Basically I did it through a drag-and-drop > across the network. > > What's the best way to do this? The OS is Windows NT > (Server) and I'm > looking at about 22gb of files of various types -- from music to source > code. > > Any ideas? I still have the original server on standby for this > verification before I wipe it clean for sale. > > Thanks again. > > Rich Cini > Collector of classic computers > Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project > Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ > /************************************************************/ > > >

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IBM available

by dundas＠caltech.edu

Another IT department here at Caltech (not mine) is looking to unload an IBM "mainframe". Details of the configuration are listed below. I believe they are willing to entertain offers of "I will take it away", if made fairly soon. If you are serious, contact me off list and I will put you in touch with the right folks. Thanks, John >Hardware: IBM 9221-170, mem - 64mb installed, no expanded ; disk - >IPL & all other vols. resided on EMC; 3274 console controller; ps2 >processor console. > >This is what the system supported in 1999 (EMC was bus/tag >connected; all adapters supporting the equip. listed below should >still be in place): > >ES9000 Mainframe Channels: > >Channel 0 - > > 02B - Printer 4245 > 02F - Printer 3203 > >Channel 1 - > > 120-159 EMC2 drives > >Channel 2 - > > 220-259 EMC2 Alternate Address > >Channel 3 - > > 360-39F 7171 > 3A0-3BF 3274 > Note: 3A1 is the main ES9000 Console >and 3A9 is the alternate > 3C0-3FF 7171 > >Channel 4 - > > 420-43F 3274 > 440-45F 3274 > 460-47F 3274 > 4A0-4DF 7171 > >Channel 5 - > > 5A0-5A5 3480 > >Channel 6 - > > 620-659 EMC2 Alternate Address > >Channel 7 - > > Microsoft Gateway > >Channel 8 - > > 820-859 EMC2 Alternate Address > >Channel 9 - > > 960-99F 7171 > 9A0 MT Gateway TOSS 256 LU's > 9A1 MT Gateway CITNET 256 LU's >Channel A and B - > > Unused -- John A. Dundas III Director, Information Technology Services Infrastructure, Caltech Mail Code: 014-81, Pasadena, CA 91125-8100 Phone: 626.395.3392 FAX: 626.449.6973

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Matrix 3U CPU card?

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> It's almost certainly a video card. I don't think > Matrox ever built anything else. Me and my Matrox CTM 300 ANSI terminals say different 8^)= Cheers, Lee ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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Time to Purge! -- I think it's all spoken for.

by nerdware＠ctgonline.org

I've gotten a pile of emails this morning, so after I sort through who wants what and who asked first, I think it's all gone as of this moment. As soon as I figure it out, or if I come up with more stuff, I'll post up. If you've sent me an email -- I'll get to it in a little bit. Thanks! Paul Braun Cygnus Productions nerdware(a)ctgonline.org "If you can make it all the way through Warren Zevon's 'The Wind' without crying, you have no soul. "At Microsoft, Quality is Job, oh, I dunno, maybe 6 or 7?"

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Shipping a Teletype

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Any estimates on what would be a "reasonable" estimate for shipping a >Teletype (with base, two cartons] Origination is Long Island, Destination is >not known except it will be within the "lower 48" states. I shipped one a while back. I broke it down into two parts, the teletype and the base. I packed each in their own box. I got boxes that were a good bit larger than the part to be packed, and IIRC, then lined the boxes with formed FedEx boxes (the free ones you get from them) to act as stiffeners. Then lined the interior of the now "double box" assembly with bubble wrap. Then heavily wrapped the item in layers of bubble wrap. Then placed it into the box, filled the voids, put on the top layer of lining boxes, then taped it shut. I think the total cost was something like $40 or $45 per box to go from NJ to St Louis (it was probably 2 years ago, but I seem to recall it was something in that range... I think the boxes were about 65 lbs each packed). I'd assume they arrived in good condition as I didn't hear any complaints >from the person I sent them to. You can ask Jay to be sure, he's the one that got it. >Also any recommendations on a carrier? I used FedEx Ground, simply because I had a FedEx account, and they were willing to do it cheaper then UPS. >Finally any "sepcial packing techniques [specifically any internal >assemblies that need to be secured]? Um... I can't help you there, I honestly hadn't thought about that issue until you asked it here. Now I am worried that I caused the thing to be trashed in shipping because I failed to bolt something in place. (Probably not, or I'm sure Jay would have complained) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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93448 ic

by trash3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

>From the 1977 Fairchild Bipolar Memory book: 93448-DC isoplanar schottky ttl memory, 512x8 programmable read only memory. nichrome fuse links. d is for ceramic dip, c is for supply voltage tolerance and temperature range (needs better supply, not as wide an operating range) 24 pin. joe heck

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Shipping a Teletype

by CPUMECH＠aol.com

Which model? I know on a model 33 you have to put a shipping bolt in the printer mechanism thru the base to secure it.

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93448 IC?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 11:41 AM 3/30/04 -0800, you wrote: >On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Joe R. wrote: > >> I found a board with several of these yesterday. Can anyone id them? I've >> searched the net and all I can find are sellers with no names or >> descriptions of what the ICs are. Chip directory comes up empty. They're >> 24 pin ICs with white ceramic bodies and gold lids and legs. They're marked >> "93448-DC" and "F 7633". >> >> Joe >> > > > >Fairchild 512X8 Bipolar RAM > >(First hit with Google :-) > You guys must have a different Google than I have! The first TWO hits that I got are for Dial Electronics. They have the part listed but don't say what it is, who made it or how much they want for it. The next two hits are for HKinventory and they give the same lack of information. Then USBid, Doom, and others. NONE of them give any information about the part at all. Thre are pages and pages of the same kind of useless hits. That's why I'm dumping Google! Joe >Peter Wallace >Mesa Electronics > >

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Time to purge!

by nerdware＠ctgonline.org

I'm officially giving up collecting. When I started, I didn't realize the amount of space it would take, and I also didn't realize that there were people out there with 1000 times more stuff, who actually had time to use it.... I've gotten rid of most of it a couple years ago, but it's time to get rid of everything except my original Vic20 and C=64, and my 2 Amigas. Here's what has to go: 2 Apple IIGs cpu's, one 5-1/4" floppy, one 3-1/2" floppy, modem and monitor 3 Apple Disk ]['s Apple ][e Apple ][ Monitor for ][ (monochrome) Macintosh Performa 400 Imagewriter ][ Smith-Corona Daisywheel printer (was used with Kaypro II) Commodore Plus 4 IBM PCjr box of Kaypro software miscellaneous Apple software other crap as I come across it I just want this to go to someone who has time to play with it. You pay shipping -- it's yours. Or, if you're in the Chicago/NW Indiana area, I can arrange for pickup. I want this out of here by the end of next week. If nobody wants it, it will unfortunately go to the recycler. Email me. Thanks. Paul Braun WD9GCO Cygnus Productions nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com "A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without a bunch of bricks tied to its head."

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Looking for TC08 Wire List

by vrs＠msn.com

Hi, Does anyone out there have a TC08 wire list? I am thinking of creating a replica TC08 and need a way to check my work. ECO information would be good to have, too. Thanks! Vince

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Matrix 3U CPU card?

by mpokorni2000＠yahoo.com

Matrix might have been a maker of VME CPU boards, but video board maker from Montreal was named Matrox and they are still in existence, web address is: http://www.matrox.com/ . You might want to try VITA's web site: http://www.vita.com/jun96vj/toc.html for some information on Matrix' CPU boards; VITA is VME maker's association and they might have information on legacy products. Additionally, you can try search on Google for all three words: "matrix cpu vme". Regards Miroslav Pokorni

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Comparing existence of massive number of files

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: I just moved most of my collection of on-line data to a new server here at home. I want to verify that all files have been copied and I didn't miss any directories/subdirectories. Basically I did it through a drag-and-drop across the network. What's the best way to do this? The OS is Windows NT (Server) and I'm looking at about 22gb of files of various types -- from music to source code. Any ideas? I still have the original server on standby for this verification before I wipe it clean for sale. Thanks again. Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

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