- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Stoebass＠t-online.de

Hi everybody, I have a Busicom 141-PF and a Busicom 121-DK. Does anybody know where I can get a copy of a manual ? Thanks and Kind regards Christian

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mostly Qbus stuff - equipment

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 28, 15:11, Zane H. Healy wrote: > > At 5:37 PM -0400 5/28/04, Ed Kelleher wrote: > > >a guy who as a public service has posted old manuals on his site. > > > > > >http://www.miim.com/documents/dilog/ > Again, nothing against Ed, but... > > The owner of that website is also a total A** **** about people linking to > his site. Link to his site and you'll probably find that any traffic > following that link gets redirected to an obscene website. Several people > have had *very* unpleasent dealings with him. So have I. And posting manuals in Word format? Come on! > I'd personally recommend sending any scans to Al for bitsavers.org. Hear, hear. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 3 months

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What's the weirdest thing that you've ever found inside a computer?

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >At 12:45 PM 5/26/04 -0700, you wrote: >>Howzbout: >>the ivy growing up through the recent Castro Valley PDP-11/40 rescue? > > Naw. That's common here in Florida. I looked at the pictures and it >didn't look like they'd been sitting out more than a couple of months by >Florida standards. I ROUTINELY find birds nest, wasp nests, plants, animal >dens and other forms of wildlife in anything that's left outside around here. > Hi Joe Although not a computer, it was in Florida. When I was there, one of my lady friends talked me into working on he old Mercedes. We when out to start looking it over. On opening the driver door, there was a large black widow spider. A few moments later we'd gotten her into a soda cup from a fast food. I next started to move some of the stuff around so I could get in and do some more looking over. This is when the largest scorpion I'd ever seen ran across my lap. Still wanting to help out, we opened the hood to see what size battery it would require. That is when the rattle snake let us know that we were in his territory. At this point I told her that a dead boy friend was not to good and that I'd only consider working on the car if she got it fumigated. Dwight

22 years, 3 months

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Pressed Particle Board Shelving Warning

by rdd＠rddavis.org

In case anyone else on this list is using steel shelving with particle board shelves that's been in use for over ten years, and hasn't given the shelving a careful looking over, it may be a good idea to do so. When looking for shelving to stack lots of equipment on in the early 1990's, I purchased some shelving from Sears Roebuck & Co. that was rated at least one ton per shelf. The steel framing is very heavy, but at the time, I was a little wary of the pressed particleboard shelves themselves, but was told that they would hold the rated weight. For the past ten years, I've been quite pleased with the shelving, until now. While there's nothing extremely heavy on the shelves - e.g., one shelf contains a Canon laser printer (the square one with a CX engine), about 40 full-height 5-1/4" hard drives, an 8" floppy drive and a few other things, I noticed that some of the items on some of the shelves appear to be leaning slightly. It turns out that the boards are sagging a bit towards the center, so it's just a matter of time before things begin to go crash. Not sure how soon that might happen, but this sagging has occurred fairly quickly, or so it seems. No other space to store some of these things, so, I'm just hoping for the best until I can make other arrangements, but 3/4" oak planks, which I'd prefer to use for adding some support, have become quite expensive. Replacing the particleboard would be a major pain, since the entire shelving assembly would have to be disassembled. So... in case anyone hasn't checked their shelves carefully lately... Note: part of this is most likely as much my fault as the manufacturers', since there is some occasional dampness near the shelves, but, for years, there was no apparent problem, and no obvious rust, mildew, etc. on any of the equipment. Not much I can do about the dampness, except hope that repainting a basement stone wall with some new waterproofing paint will help things... thanks to BG&E, Baltimore Gas & Electric Co., for disturbing the wall, thus causing increased water leakage during heavy rains, when they pounded heavily on the wall while lining gas pipes in the area and installing a new meter a few years ago... I should have tried the aforementioned repainting a few years ago as well. Procrastination: not just a skill, a way of life! Procrastinators Anonymous web site: http://www.rddavis.org/rdd/procrastinators.html -- Copyright (C) 2004 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved | My VAX | an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & www.rddavis.org | runs VMS & | her other creatures, using dogma to justify such 410-744-4900 | doesn't crash!| beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

22 years, 3 months

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Beige TI99

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, Anyone come across a beige TI99/4A before? I'd previously thought all beige machines were early TI99/4s but last week I was sent a boxed 'Texas Instruments 99/4A' that's very beige and hopefully very working....not had a chance to test it yet. In other news I'm celebrating one month at my new job; it's great to be back in a fully equipped workshop with 'scope access and loads of DEC stuff amongst other things, so once I'm settled in my new weekday flat (I come home at weekends, a nice 500 mile round trip) I'll be able to take dead machines down for repair...... -- Adrian/Witchy Owner & Webmaster, Binary Dinosaurs www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(

22 years, 3 months

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Wanted: M9312 ROMs

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> I don't know what spped the M9312 PROMs are rated at but I was just > looking at my notes about the Bipolar PROMs used in the HP 1000. > They're rated at 60nS. Can you get EPROMs that are that fast? No and yes. Worst case timing for a typical 256kbit EPROM is 150ns but if you know the address will be stable at least 150ns before the data is required then the delay from /OE to valid data can be as little as 40ns. Also if you know which address lines cause the greatest delay then you can avoid switching them and operate the with a worst case delay of about 75ns. I would guess that, with care, 120ns parts could work and that 90ns parts would work in place of 60ns bipolar PROMs. Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

22 years, 3 months

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ftp vs http vs scp

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

I recently had a discussion with our security advisor at work, about FTP being replaced by HTTP and SCP. Some people would like to replace "insecure" FTP with "modern" services like SCP and HTTP (something along the lines of "we don't do anonymous FTP, stick the file on a web page instead"), and argue that they're safer and there's no loss of functionality. I'm not so sure. For example, FTP understands the difference between a unix-style "stream of bytes" file, and a structured one such as might be found under VMS (or any of several other OSs) -- and can deal with the difference. I don't have an easy way to test this, so I don't know if web browsers or programs like wget can do the right thing, or indeed if servers such as Apache can, or what happens with SCP -- but it occurs to me that it might matter in the context of classic computing. Anyone? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 3 months

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mostly Qbus stuff - equipment

by beclassic＠att.net

Amazing what one finds by browsing. This equipment sale is in mine and Ashley Carder's back yard. The company has been around for maybe 20 years and I heard good things about their system deployment and software in the early 80's. Not aware whether any of their sale items are hard-to-find but felt the list might want to be aware of this source. http://www.macro-inc.com/DECSale.html bill bailey

22 years, 3 months

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Free: Bunch of Atari 800 stuff, Washington DC area pickup

by jdaviscctalk＠soupwizard.com

Hi all: I'm clearing out my storage unit and have finally gotten tired of dragging around my Atari 800 stuff. Here's what's available free (as a lot - take it all!) in the Washington DC area (Vienna, VA specifically): 3 - Atari 800 consoles, at least 2 work 1 - Atari 810 floppy drive, works iirc 2 - Atari 1050 floppy drives, work iirc 2 - Atari 850 interfaces 1 - 3rd party modem that doesn't need an 850 1 - Atari 410 data cassette recorder in box Plus cables and power supplies for all the above, and some disks and a couple of "how to use atari dos" type books. a couple of joysticks too. Email me if you'd like to drop by and pick up this collection. I'm in Vienna, Virginia. Anytime this weekend (including Monday) would be great. Thanks, Jeff Davis

22 years, 3 months

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Austrailian Computer Museum call for help

by vcf＠siconic.com

Just got this: 1. Expressions Of Interest =+= DISPERSAL of Computer Museum Collection. ========================================================================= The Australian COMPUTER MUSEUM Society Inc has been actively collecting local artefacts for the past ten years. It now has amassed a collection that has been estimated at nearly 50,000 individual items. The ACMS has recently had to relocate from its sponsored stored space at Kennards at Homebush and cannot afford to pay the commercial rents required for the 1,000 square metres that the artefacts occupy. The ACMS collection consists mainly of electronic computing items with associated media, software and documentation, plus a lot of ancillary equipment related to office automation and communications. Expressions of interest are being sought from any Regional Museum or similar organisation who could store and/or display any of our duplicated items. Most of these would be from the 1970s and 1980s and are all systems that were in use in Australia. A typical set up would be a mainframe or mini-computer style system (with flashing lights on the front), storage devices (such as disk and/or tape drives), printers and visual display units; as would have been used for corporate record keeping and business management. Smaller systems that might have been used for word-processing in a small professional office are also available. Some specialised scientific, engineering and medical application systems are also available. The ACMS is not in a position to pay for freight to distant locations (but other grants may be available for such purposes); however we may be able to assist with historical notes and possible contacts with users. Any assistance with sourcing space for our repository would also be highly appreciated. Enquiries to: John GEREMIN, Collections Officer, ACMS Inc, geremin @ iprimus . com . au Initial Responses to: John GEREMIN, Treasurer, ACMS Inc, p. o. box s - 5, HOMEBUSH SOUTH, nsw, 2140. ================================== 2. Appeal for HELP =+=+= Computer Museum REPOSITORY space needed. =================================================================== The Australian COMPUTER MUSEUM Society Inc has been actively collecting local artefacts for the past ten years. It now has amassed a collection that has been estimated at nearly 50,000 individual items, in line with its objectives of being the primary source of materials re the impacts of the computer industry for future historians and sociologists. The ACMS has recently had to relocate from its sponsored space at Kennards at Homebush and cannot afford to pay the commercial rents required for the 1,000+ square metres that the artefacts now occupy. The ACMS collection consists mainly of electronic computing items with associated media, software and documentation, plus a lot of ancillary equipment related to office automation and communications. We are looking to share storage space with other organisations - any size will be considered - from 50 square metres upwards. Main requirements are that it is relatively clean and dry (we have lived with broken windows and a leaking roof in the past). Any assistance with sourcing possible display spaces for our ever-growing collection would also be highly appreciated. Enquiries to: John GEREMIN, Collections Officer, ACMS Inc, geremin @ iprimus . com . au Initial Responses to: John GEREMIN, Treasurer, ACMS Inc, p. o. box s - 5, HOMEBUSH SOUTH, nsw, 2140. ==================================

22 years, 3 months

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TI-74 manual

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hi: Does anyone have a PDF copy (or an original I can scan) of the user's manual for the TI-74 BASICalc calculator? I just lost an auction on eBay for one. Please contact me off-list if anyone has one. If someone has more than just this manual, let me know, too. Maybe I can start a small TI-74 manuals archive on my Web site. Thanks. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

22 years, 3 months

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Midi soundblaster direct connect?

by melamy＠earthlink.net

to add my comments, if you are concerned about compatibility, you are probably listening to a saleman that wants to sell you a USB to MIDI adapter. I walked into a music store a few months back and was asking about such things. The salesman proceeded to tell me that computers don't have midi interfaces anymore and that I would need to buy something from him. I have put together many systems over the years and I had yet to hear of a MPU401 problem and I had thought they had basically become standard because of the Creative Labs SoundBlaster. I have a ASUS 4C800 MB (800mhz FSB, 1.8G cpu, sound, & ethernet on board). I went home, checked the ASUS site and all I needed to get was a game port adapter for it to bring the midi out. That cost me around $12 on eBay, I installed it, pulled out my handy game port to midi cable adapter (same one you can get on eBay for around $18), connected up my Panasonic keyboard, and ran the software that I had bought called ("Instant Play Piano" at Costco. Everything worked perfectly... best regards, Steve Thatcher >--- Original Message --- >From: "R. D. Davis" <rdd(a)rddavis.org> >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Date: 5/28/04 7:15:01 PM > Quothe Tony Duell, from writings of Fri, May 28, 2004 at 11:20:52PM +0100: >> It's not exactly complicated, the only thing you'd need would be a spec >> of what the Soundblaster was expecting. > >Somewhere, I read that some of the newer sound cards don't match the >original Soundblaster spec properly and some of the older MIDI adapter >circuits won't work... a current related issue, IIRC. Can anyone >comment on this? > >> Raid one from an old SMPSU (they're often used in the voltage regulation >> feebcak circuit)? > >Those old PSUs are a source of many useful parts. :-) 4N35s appeared >to be rather inexpensive, so I ordered ten of them and am going to >have a go at building a couple of circuits around them for Mac and PC >MIDI interfaces. > >> It may not apply here, but I've seen cheap cables and adapters that are >> so poorly soldered that you have to completely rebuild them. In which >> case it's probably less hassle to make it yourself in the first place. > >Besides, one can modify one's circuitry at a later point in time for >whatever reason, more easily than hacking on one of those cables. > >> > Besides, by the time you add in mounting and housing, the cost for the >> > homebrew has probably at least doubled, in money and time both. >> >> I used to estimate {Cost of main components} * 3. > >All Electronics sells some inexpensive cases and connectors. Mouser >stocks much nicer connectors, but not perf board (darn that's become >expensive!) and inexpensive cases. > >> Anyway, if you just want a quick-n-dirty hack why bother to house it? >> Mount the board ont he DA15 plug or something. > >That's good for uses when cabling isn't going to get disturbed much, >but in cases where it will, I'd go with a cheap project box, >connectors, etc. > >-- >Copyright (C) 2004 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: >All Rights Reserved | My VAX | an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & >www.rddavis.org | runs VMS & | her other creatures, using dogma to justify such >410-744-4900 | doesn't crash!| beliefs and to justify much human cruelty

22 years, 3 months

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Midi soundblaster direct connect?

by jimmydevice＠hotmail.com

Is it possible to attach ( with a proper connector ) an "isolated" midi device directly to the soundblaster midi joystick iinterface? I don't feel like building a full opto isolated pass through interface for this little keyboard. Just midi in to the computer is OK. BTW, this is on topic, the KB is over 10 yo. Thanks, Jim Davis.

22 years, 3 months

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VT52s wanted

by aek＠spies.com

> isn't it on Bitsavers? I have it all scanned, i'll get it on line under dec/terminals tonight.

22 years, 3 months

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Discharging CRT anode and capacitors on a VT52 DECscope

by wacarder＠usit.net

I recently acquired two VT52 DECScopes and I am ready to begin the troubleshooting process. I've never attempted to troubleshoot a CRT device before, and I don't want to get blasted across the room if I do something wrong. Has anyone here worked on these types of terminals before? I'm finding conflicting info on the proper method of discharging the CRT anode. I have turned both of them on. One lights up with random patterns, no cursor, and a clicking sound. The VT52 maintenance manual indicates that this is likely a problem with the anode clip or anode cap. I'd like to move on to the next step after I make sure that both the clip and cap are secure. Can an "expert" here provide some proper directions on how to discharge the anode and capacitors? How long do these things on a charge? Ashley

22 years, 3 months

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2000C A guide to Time-shared BASIC Hewlett Packard 1971

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=378&item=6901337033& rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW> Joe

22 years, 3 months

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VT52s wanted

by wacarder＠usit.net

Does anyone have any dead DEC VT52 terminals they would like to donate to my cause? All clues are now pointing to a bad RUT module on *BOTH* of my VT52s. One RUT module causes the CRT to do random things. The other one, which is much more well behaved, lets me get the flashing cursor that I should get, but no keyboard input is displayed and there are no keyclicks. I suppose I could go through the individual components of the RUT board one by one and replace them to see if I can get anything to happen. Before I do that, I am going to do some more research. Back to studying the detailed technical documentation in the VT52 Maintenance Manual. Ashley

22 years, 3 months

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Help identifying AppleII cards?

by aek＠spies.com

> What's an ISAAC? -- A lab A/D D/A and digital I/O box that sat on top of the IIe with similar styling.

22 years, 3 months

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Wanted: M9312 ROMs (data i/o help needed)

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

At 16:37 28/05/2004 -0400, you wrote: > > (1) I have a 29A manual but there's no device codes in it. The codes are >in the manual for the particular plugin that you're using so you'll have to >tell us which one you're using. There are some large text files with listing for at least the Unipak2B, LogicPak and the gang banger available on the net somewhere - I know cuz I just recently downloaded em - found with a google search for "Data I/O 29B" I believe. Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

22 years, 3 months

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Help identifying AppleII cards?

by aek＠spies.com

22 years, 3 months

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"Revived" IIci

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I have a Mac to VGA adapter connected... Specifically the Belkin model which >adapts Mac video to VGA and ADB to PS/2 mouse and keyboard. I just didn't >have a VGA monitor connected to that when the Mac "decided" to power on. >Will I still get no video? You should be ok then. Most Mac to VGA adaptors will fool the Mac into thinking a monitor is connected. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 3 months

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Lear Siegler ADM-3A CRT problem

by elf＠ucsd.edu

Hi folks, I've had a Lear Siegler ADM 3A terminal in storage (a closet) for a number of years, and recently went to pull it out. Much to my disappointment, the CRT now has some problems (_physical_ problems, not electronic). When I originally stored it (about 4 years ago), all was well. But now there are bunch of "spots" peppering the outer perimeter of the front of the CRT. These spots are NOT on the surface of the CRT (i.e., it is not a "bubbling" sort of phenomenon), but rather behind the outer glass. Here are some pictures: (approx. 35K each) http://home.san.rr.com/instep/adm3a-crt.jpg http://home.san.rr.com/instep/adm3a-crt1.jpg When I power the terminal up and type some characters, they are all perfectly readable when located away from these spots (i.e., towards the center of the screen). But if the characters are positioned behind these spots, it is as blurry as hell. 1) What's happened to my CRT? Is this symptomatic of a slow air leak? Or is this mold? (it sure looks like it! :-) 2) Can the CRT be fixed/repaired? (my guess is no) 3) If it (the CRT) can't be fixed, does anyone know a source for a new (or used) one? (It is a "Ball Brothers Inc." CRT) Kind regards, Eric

22 years, 3 months

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"Revived" IIci

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Today (about 2 to 3 months later) I walked by, and noticed the fan is >running on it. I haven't hooked up a monitor to it to see if it is indeed >booted, but I will later. I'm afraid to turn it off again for fear that it >won't boot. If there was no monitor attached when it booted, then connecting one now will NOT give you a picture. The Mac disables the video card on most models if there isn't a monitor plugged in at the time of boot. So if you connect one, and get no picture, that doesn't mean it isn't running. >That machine has broken SIMM sockets and I've got the SIMM's jimmied to >stand straight with folded pieces of paper forced between the SIMMs. It >seems to work reasonably well. Is it possible that a SIMM, slightly out of >position, could cause the system to not power up (no fan, no power >anywhere)? A loose simm chip should have given you chimes of doom (or whatever the IIci does, I think that one actually does a car crash noise) when it booted. It might have done it if it booted when you weren't around. Now it will be sitting at a sad mac screen waiting for you to do something. But you can't tell, because no monitor is attached. :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 3 months

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"Revived" IIci

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> A loose simm chip should have given you chimes of doom (or whatever the >> IIci does, I think that one actually does a car crash noise) when it >> booted. > >I think it's car crash, too (but it could also be big-fat-nothing). Somewhere I have an Apple Spec database that includes the noise each Mac makes when it reports a problem. I don't see it on my hard drive now, so I must have archived it at some point. I'll have to dig around and figure out where it went. Of course, you could ruin your uptime on your IIci with NetBSD and shut it down, loosen a simm chip, and boot it up. Then you would know for sure :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 3 months

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Computer flooring/flooding/water in computer rooms

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Flooded computer room Our computer room was on the 11th floor of an office building. The cooling was based on a unit that used the cold water feed into the building as a cooling source. The air handler was in the computer room also included a humidifier. The float valve on the humidifier stuck and flooded the room under the floor. We noticed/felt "high humidity" on Monday morning. No water was visible. We pulled up a floor tile and there was 2 inches of water under the entire floor. All of the cables were in water. Most of the terminal cables were threaded through the channels in the floors to other offices; all of the channels were also full of water. Everything was still running. We got a dehumidifier, pulled up a few floor tiles and dried the room out. We placed rag wicks down in the channels to draw out the water so we could evaporate it. All of the cables were covered with dust, grime and rust colored crud that dried on them from the water. Mike

22 years, 3 months

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ftp vs http vs scp

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Cameron Kaiser <spectre(a)floodgap.com> wrote: > Perl is unbelievably commonplace, though. You don't have it/use it? I > barely remember life before Perl (and for that matter tcsh -- I can't believe > I fumbled by on csh all those years in university). Just as a data point: I have Perl 4.036 installed on this VAX running 4.3BSD-Quasijarus, though I don't know Perl and don't use it myself. (I installed it because something else needed it, don't remember what.) As for the shell, I refuse to install any shell other than those than come standard with 4.3BSD (original sh and csh). I personally use sh only. That's right, the *original* Bourne Shell. MS

22 years, 3 months

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Heads Up: VMS V5.5 Manuals on Ebay in UK

by family.entwisle＠btinternet.com

Annoyingly I have no space for these (not even temporarily). They're less than 30 miles from where I live - I wonder what over goodies they have :-( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&category=67855&item=4133816051&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW "40 original digital (dec) vms v5.5 operating system/progrsmming/developing manuals" (Hopefully someone will tell me that they're all available as pdfs on the net... but I doubt it.) Cheers, Duncan.

22 years, 3 months

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Pressed Particle Board Shelving Warning ( computer floor)

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I have a pile of computer flooring setting in the corner of my garage. The hospital removed it and I'm hoping to set up a computer room. My wife keeps asking about when and where. Tiles have a black rubber/plastic edge about ? inch wide on all edges. Center is tile/hard linoleum. Structure is steel with an x pattern on the bottom. Very heavy. The tracks to support the tiles are metal channels with a cross section -------/\------- | | | | | | ----- ----- This lets the tiles abut without sliding across. A foot can then be clamped into the channel and leveled. Our feet were all epoxied onto the concrete subfloor. I have several that are cut to allow cables/hoses to penetrate the floor. You can see the cross section easily. I have seen versions with carpet squares on them. The only problem with the suction cup tile pullers is that picking a tile up at an angle can result in dropped tiles, they loose suction. Mike

22 years, 3 months

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ftp vs http vs scp

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

der Mouse <mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote: > I, for example, run lynx, and on two separate occasions > I have looked into convincing it to support SSL; Ahmm, Lynx has supported SSL for a long time. More precisely, it has hooks that can be enabled at compile time: if you compile with -DUSE_SSL and link with the SSL libraries, you'll get SSL-capable Lynx. This is not a new feature, as I (deliberately) use a very old version of Lynx. In 1997-98 I was on the Lynx development mailing list and saw their development process. That was right at the time when Foteos Macrides (Fote), who maintained Lynx from times immemorial until version 2.7.x, was retiring from Lynx development and passing the baton to the new gang. I was personally very displeased with what the new gang did to Lynx (there were many issues, but the absolute show-stopper for me was when they replaced simple Makefiles with the GNU autoconf morass), and I chose to forever stick with Fote's last version (2.7.2) plus my own small changes. My version of Lynx (2.7.2MS) lives on my FTP site: ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG:/pub/net/www/lynx I didn't have to do any special work for SSL, since SSL was already there when I picked up Fote's last version. > in each case, I got > about four levels deep in tools-to-build-the-tools before running into > a requirement for something ridiculously heavyweight - perl, I think - > and abandoning the attempt. The SSL libraries were a pain to build under pure 4.3BSD, but I succeeded, and it was just usual compilation pains (fixing code that assumed "modern" C, headers and libc), no special tools like Perl required. MS

22 years, 3 months

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Extracting files from TPC RSTS/E Tape image?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I've got some RSTS/E backups that have been converted to TPC format tape images, and I'd like to extract the files to a Unix system. Are there any tools to do this? Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

22 years, 3 months

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Decitek 262 Tape Reader Manual?

by mina59＠algeriecom.com

Nous voudrions un manuel en Fran?ais. Nous cherchons ? r?cup?rer le contenu d'un soft machine sur bande perfor?e dans un fichier informatique et le moyen de transf?rer celui-ci vers la machine ? travers le un PC. Sinc?res salutations. Sma?l BOUDAOUD.

22 years, 3 months

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Wanted: M9312 ROMs

by GOOI＠oce.nl

In an effort to beat Al, :-) I have a website page that deals with the M9312, and the PROMs: www.pdp-11.nl/ Click on the PDP-11/34A folder, the CPU information folder, the options folder and then on the bootstrap link ... It describes the installation in the various PDP-11's, the jumpers and DIP switch settings and the PROMs. The PROM id's are links ... Come to think of it: a description how to read the PROM when it is socketed in the M9312 for identification purposes would be a nice addition. hope this is usefull, - Henk, PA8PDP > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe R. [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com] > Sent: donderdag 27 mei 2004 3:58 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Wanted: M9312 ROMs > > > Dammit Al! You're always one step ahead of the rest of us! > > Joe

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OLD RSTS manual found

by aek＠spies.com

If they aren't already in PDF form, why not send the manuuals to Al and have him scan them - he's got a great scanner!! -- PLEASE! esp the V4A sysmgr manual, which is needed to revive the dectapes that were read. I can turn these VERY quickly and would be happy to cover postage both ways.

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VT100 ROM 2 wanted [Was: Wanted: M9312 ROMs]

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 28, 7:45, Gerold Pauler wrote: > Thanks, that is exactly what I am looking for. > But according to DECs VT100 Technical Manual it is ROM 2, > ROM 1 is the 23-031E2 or 23-061E2. > May be it's because they are counting from 1 not from 0. Ah, the chart I copied started at zero. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Help identifying AppleII cards?

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

Picked up a IIe today - has a couple of cards in it that I have not seen before... #1 ISAAC INTERFACE BOARD D91A-8318 REVC Copyright 1981 by CYBORG CORP Large format card (large enough to slope down at front) Has an 6522 on it. Also has an external battery box that plugs into a small barrel jack at the front of the card. Has 6 pin terminal strip, plus two 34 pin ribbon cable headers. Small 4-position DIP switch at front, 8-position DIP switch farther back (under terminal strip). #2 No markings at all. Smaller card, slightly longer than Apple disk controller. Has a 20 pin header sticking out the back of the card. Has an RCA 1802 CPU on it! 2 2k EPROMS 1 6 position DIP switch. Anyone recognize these? Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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VT100 ROM 2 wanted [Was: Wanted: M9312 ROMs]

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 27, 21:44, Gerold Pauler wrote: > I think archiving ROM images is a very good idea. > I should have done this earlier. > > A few weeks ago my VT100 decided to give up on ROM 2. > So I am looking for an replacement or at least the image of ROM 2. > Even better if someone would have images of all VT100 ROMs. > Part No of my ROM 2 is 23-032E-00. > As of DEC VT100 schematics it should be a 2316. You mean 23-032E2, and it's actually ROM 1 according to my chart. It's at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/DECROMs/ along with some others that have been there for quite a long time. Since there seems to be a demand, I'll put some of the rest of my collection there too. For the moment, my list of what all those ROMs are isn't up there, but it's on my ToDo list :-) What I do have is are "I have" and "wanted" lists: Wanted: ====== 23-031E2 VT100 terminal ROM 23-051L1 TQK50 Rev.D1 E3 ROM 23-094E2 VT100 extra chargen 23-095E2 VT100 extra chargen 23-096E2 VT100 extra chargen 23-097E2 VT132 extra chargen 23-098E2 VT132 extra chargen 23-139E2 VT100 terminal board ROM 23-140E2 VT100 terminal board ROM 23-158E4 early KDF11-BE boot ROMs 23-159E4 early KDF11-BE boot ROMs 23-170E5 TQK50 ROMs, rev.1 23-171E5 TQK50 ROMs, rev.1 23-178E5 RQDX2 T-11 code, issue 1 (V10.0D) 23-179E5 RQDX2 T-11 code, issue 1 (V10.0D) 23-180E2 VT132 terminal board ROM 23-180E5 TQK50 ROMs, rev.2 (C1) 23-181E2 VT132 terminal board ROM23-183E2 23-181E5 TQK50 ROMs, rev.2 (C1) 23-183E2 VT132 terminal board ROM23-183E2 23-216E5 RQDX3 T-11 code issue 1 23-217E5 RQDX3 T-11 code issue 1 23-451E4 DELUA ROMs 23-452E4 DELUA ROMs I have: ====== 23-032E2 23-110E6 23-173E5 23-254E6 23-340E2 F311-103 23-033E2 23-111E6 23-183E4 23-261E5 23-340E5 F311-123 23-034E2 23-115E4 23-184E4 23-262E5 23-380E4 MRV11BArom 23-039D1 23-116E4 23-188E5 23-264E4 23-381E4 MXV11A_x0 23-040D1 23-126E4 23-189E5 23-265E4 23-381E6 MXV11A_x1 23-042E5 23-127E4 23-208E5 23-285E5 23-382E6 23-043E5 23-145E4 23-209E5 23-286E5 23-383E5 23-045E2 23-146E4 23-238E4 23-334E5 23-384E5 23-046E2 23-168E5 23-239E4 23-335E5 23-398E4 23-054E7 23-169E5 23-243E5 23-339E2 23-399E4 23-061E2 23-172E5 23-244E5 23-339E5 23-453E6 The F311 images are for a Baydel QBus floppy controller, the MRV11BArom is a fusible-link PROM image, the MXV11A images are from a custom set. These are all 8-bit (or in a very few caes 16-bit) wide ROMs suitable for conventional EPROMs. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Digitizing Datapoint 2200 cassettes

by aek＠spies.com

I received a non-working (anyone have the service manual?) 2200 this past week with 15 cassettes and some manuals. The manuals are now up on Bitsavers, and I tried digitizing the cassettes using the audio input on one of my macs. Looks like it should be decodable in software even though it's slowed down from the normal 7 1/2 ips tape speed. If anyone has any other tapes, I'd be VERY interested in trying to decode the data from them, and also scanning any other manuals that might be available.

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What's the weirdest thing that you've ever found inside a computer?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 26, 13:07, Fred Cisin wrote: > We had an elderly applicant for a teaching position who tried to use one > of the machines in the lab. When he couldn't find the CD drive, he put > a CD into the 5.25" floppy drive. The college administration morons > actually hired him for one semester! (I mention that he was elderly only > to discount the possibility that he was too young to be familiar with > 5.25") At the other end of the age scale... My pal Fran wondered where a few of his CDs had gone to, until he opened his PC to change a card, and found a stack of them. His four-year old son had sometimes "missed" the CD-ROM drive slot, and inserted the CDs in the gap between the CD-ROM and the floppy. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Chicago test equipment sale

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

This was a great sale - luckily Dan V made sure I didn't have to worry about starting a collection of HP desktops - given my packrat tendencies, smaller is definitely better! Here's what I brought home - - MMD-2 Microcomputer Design set - pretty sure Jon Titus was _not_ involved with this model, but I'm looking forward to talking to him about it at VCF-East - 4 HP 1611A Logic State Analyzers, each with a different interface option - Z80, 6800, 6502 and "generic" - box of HP 1630 Logic Analyzer General Purpose Interfaces (6 10269A, 3 10269B), all with the 6809/6809E personality card and half of them with 6809 chips still in place - F8 microprocessor probe (HP p/n 01611-62104) - box of 14 early 1970's Data I/O Programmer interface cards (1702/2102 vintage) - Xerox 2700 PAR-EBCDIC 64K cartridge (p/n 9R22283 101S04653) - 2 shrink wrapped boxes of 8" Wabash disks - boxed copy of Lotus 123 - big box of '70s dated ICs, transistors, caps, ferrite beads, trim pots, resistors, etc. - many Motorola parts (much of the equipt was ex-Moto) What I missed - what Dan got and a Pachinko game. It was great to meet Dan and chat; I missed him in Dayton, but hooked up with Dan Cohoe there, another good guy. If anybody is interested in the F8 probe or Xerox cartridge, they're yours for the shipping cost (both are small). I'd like to get $10 each for the HP 10269x/6809 interfaces - I'll put them on VCF if noone here is interested. Jack

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Pressed Particle Board Shelving Warning

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 27, 9:08, Stan Barr wrote: > The desk on which my main Mac sits is made of this stuff and is sagging > under the weight of the two monitors. That's only a year old. Needless > to say it's scheduled for prompt replacement with a steel desk! Cheaper solution: get 2 or 3 lengths 1" square steel tube (Dexion Speedframe or equivalent), drill 3/16" holes through them every 12" - 18", and screw them to the underside. That'll stiffen it enough. I've got some benches that are made rather like like that, and I can stand on them without them sagging. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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AT&T Gemini-100 electronic blackboard

by siddiqui＠fr.com

Joe, I saw your post (below) about the Gemini electronic blackboard on a message board. I'm interested in the Gemini; do you still have the unit or any of its literature? Thanks, Owais Seeking info on AT&T Gemini-100 Electronic Blackboard Joe cctech(a)classiccmp.org <mailto:cctech%40classiccmp.org> Mon Jul 7 21:02:25 2003 * Previous message: Seeking info on AT&T Gemini-100 Electronic Blackboard <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-July/016805.html> * Next message: Boot original Mac from an external floppy? <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-July/016795.html> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-July/date.html#16810> [ thread ] <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-July/thread.html#16810> [ subject ] <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-July/subject.html#16810 > [ author ] <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-July/author.html#16810> ________________________________ I finished taking one apart that had an embedded HP 1000 computer in it. The thing was HUGE! The tablet was about 6 by 8 FEET. IIRC it was made by Giesler Scientific and it used a high resolution Advin color monitor. I'm not sure but I think it dated from about 1974. Joe At 08:03 PM 7/7/03 +0100, you wrote: >Vintage Computer Festival wrote: >> Might anyone know where one exists? How about similar products prior to >> December 1979? When was the first digitizing tablet invented? > >I have in front of me a manual for a Ferranti digitiser. It was about >A0 in size (4 feet by 5 feet approx) with a crosshair "puck". Some >of the documents refer to the digitiser as a "Bendix", but I don't >know why. > >The dates on the schematics are 1970. > >-- >John Honniball >coredump(a)gifford.co.uk ________________________________ size=2 width="100%" align=center> * Previous message: Seeking info on AT&T Gemini-100 Electronic Blackboard <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-July/016805.html> * Next message: Boot original Mac from an external floppy? <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-July/016795.html> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-July/date.html#16810> [ thread ] <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-July/thread.html#16810> [ subject ] <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-July/subject.html#16810 > [ author ] <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-July/author.html#16810>

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Commodore P500 (European vs. American)

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

Please .cc billdeg(a)degnanco.com (thanks) I have a european Commodore p500 (240/50/PAL). What would be involved if I wanted to try the unit out in American power/monitor environment? Is it a matter of swapping chips? I found only spotty info on the internet. I don't want to take chances.

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VT100 ROM 2 wanted [Was: Wanted: M9312 ROMs]

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 27, 20:50, Antonio Carlini wrote: > Whoever ends up hosting the archive may want to > consider storing the files by part number name > (e.g. 23-032E-00 for the DEC ROM above, > although I suspect there's a digit missing out > of the middle of that 2-5-2 part number!). Forgot to mention -- mostly I keep my images as binary files, to save space. There are two consequences of this: If you use a broken version of Wndows Netscape to download them, it may insert spurious junk, and You might want to convet them to S-record or Intel HEX. There's the source to a small program to do the latter in http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/IntelHEX/ -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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VT52 restoration progress

by wacarder＠usit.net

Thanks to the list members who gave me advice on discharging the CRT on the VT52. I have made progress on getting one functional terminal out of two dead ones. By using the VT52 Maintenance manual, I have done some troubleshooting and have one terminal displaying the flashing cursor by doing some board swapping. Now I have to get it to display characters as they are typed on the keyboard. Ashley

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VT100 ROM 2 wanted [Was: Wanted: M9312 ROMs]

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 27, 20:50, Antonio Carlini wrote: > Whoever ends up hosting the archive may want to > consider storing the files by part number name > (e.g. 23-032E-00 for the DEC ROM above, > although I suspect there's a digit missing out > of the middle of that 2-5-2 part number!). That's exactly how I store them :-) > An accompanying index file could spell out > exactly what is what (including version > numbers, where appropriate). > > (Must remember to go off and dig up the few > I have somewhere and contribute them). Yes please :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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3.5 inch DSDD diskettes have landed

by acme＠ao.net

Greetings -- The diskettes are here, so here are the details: Certron brand, retail packaged. 10 diskettes per box, with inner plactic sleeve and labels. Still shrink-wrapped. I opened two boxes and formatted 6 randomly-selected diskettes without incident. They look and act brand new. They are packed in two different size cartons: 10-box and 42-box. Weight on the 10-box cartons is 4 pounds, and the 42-boxers are 22 pounds. I'm in Orlando FL, zip code 32810. Price per box is $1, minimum 10-box shipment, plus shipping. I'd prefer to ship UPS but will ship USPS media mail upon request. I can accept VISA, MasterCard, American Express and Discover, but we're flexible here so if you have another preferred method of payment let me know. I *think* I have replied to everyone who said they wanted in on this deal, but if I skipped you, send me an email, either here or at glenatacme(a)aol.com. I'll get back to you privately with our toll-free 800 number so you can call and arrange shipping and payment. Any other questions, let me know. Later -- Glen Goodwin 0/0

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Paging Mike Stein in Toronto

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

Trying to reach Mike Stein in Toronto, who is also a collector of vintage computing equipment. Please drop me a line at the address in my sig. Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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What's the weirdest thing that you've ever found inside a computer?

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

>> But I got to wondering what is the strangest thing that anyone has >> ever found inside a computer or similar piece of electronics gear. >Spiders and I saw a computer (well, a PeeCee) that was used by a mouse >or similar rodent as a toilet... Not so unusual, I guess, but I opened up my PDP-8/L and found a large mouse nest complete with mother and three jellybean-sized babies nursing. She ran away dragging them from her nipples. Just as well, I wouldn't have had the heart to kill them anyway. I also had a home-built S-100 system when I lived in an apartment. There were occasional roaches. One day I noticed a roach or two running into and out of the computer case. I lifted the lid and saw literally HUNDREDS of them, heading in every direction including up my arm. I retreated and returned with a large can of insecticide... there was an amazing amount of turds, too. Talk about debugging a computer :) -Charles

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building an RS-485<->RS422 converter

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Bert Thomas" <bert(a)brothom.nl> > >Ethan, > >Ethan Dicks wrote: >> >> It is a point-to-point RS-485 link, in this particular installation, not >> multi-drop, fortunately. >> >> I presume I would just tie the enable pins to "true" >> >> The RS-485 device in question is a simple 4-wire transmit/receive pair. >> > >I don't understand why you need a converter anyway. RS422 and RS485 use >the same voltage levels AFAIK. RS422 uses two pairs of wires: one for >sending and one for receiving. Devices are daisy-chained. RS485 uses one >pair of wires, for both sending and receiving. Some RS485 devices have >seperate terminals for the sending and receiving wires, so they are in >fact RS422 devices. Normally those wires are connected in parallel, so >that the devices also receives what it sends. > >There is basically one situation that has to be avoided and that is two >transmitters connected at the same time. If you say that you RS485 >device has 4 wires, I'd guess it has 2 for sending and 2 for receiving, >so it would simply connect easy to the RS422 device. > >BTW, a common mistake is that people think that since RS422/RS485 are >differential busses, the ground does not have to be connected. I once >red a very good article on this topic that explains that the grounds of >all devices should _always_ be connected. > >Correct me if I'm wrong. Hi Yes, the ground/commons do need to be connected. The receivers only have so much common range that they work over. These are more tolerant of ground noise but they have limits just as well as any solid state device does. You absolutely need to have a reasonably good common ground. As I recall, they are spec'ed as about 7 volts common noise and have a maximum of around 15 volts common voltage. With high power devices or circuits that do are not connected to a common ground, these levels can be easily exceeded. It is best to have a star type ground system to avoid ground loops. If you need true isolation, one should use optical isolators or transformers. Dwight > >-- >One thing I just wondered: in what time zone do you people at the >southpole live? > >Bert >

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Transputer Education Kits

by RMeenaks＠OLF.COM

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Anybody going to VCF east from the Washington DC area?

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

I haven't decided for sure, but I'm thinking of going. If I do decide to go, I'd want to drive and I'd rather not drive the whole way myself. Actually, arranging a car (or van) pool would likely clinch my decision in favor of going. Available travel options will also (obviously) influence what I might bring to exhibit. I will not be available for an extended trip... itinerary would need to be something like: pack Wednesday night, travel up Thursday, attend, pack Saturday night, travel back Sunday. Based on my expirences driving to NYC, I assume the trip to Burlington would kill a day. Thanks, Bill Sudbrink

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OLD RSTS manuals found

by wacarder＠usit.net

I was going through some boxes of old stuff from my college days and I found the following manuals: * RSTS-11 System Managers Guide, DEC-11-ORSMA-B-D for use with V004A, Jan 1973 * RSTS/E System Generation Manual, Update#1, DEC-11-ORGNA-A-D (for V06A-02), July 1975, Dec 1975 * RSTS/E System Reliability Test, DEC-11-ORSRB-A-D (for V05B-24), October 1974 * RSTS/E System Manager's Guide, DEC-11-ORSMC-A-D (for V05C-01), October 1974 * RSTS/E Documentation Directory, DEC-11-ORDAA-A-D (for V6), July 1975 * RSTS/E System Manager's Guide, DEC-11-ORSMB-A-D, (for V05A), First Printing, May 1973 (V4?) Does anyone know if these exist in PDF form yet? I have not looked over all the contents of Al's Bitsavers yet, but I thought I'd go ahead and make a list of what I have here. If these aren't in PDF form somewhere already, I'll try to scan them some time over the summer. I need to get a scanner with a sheet feeder! Ashley

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Pressed Particle Board Shelving Warning

by cb＠mythtech.net

>It turns out that the boards are >sagging a bit towards the center, so it's just a matter of time before >things begin to go crash. Not sure how soon that might happen, but >this sagging has occurred fairly quickly, or so it seems. The moisture helped, but particle board does just sag over time. But it may be a while before it crashes, and it probably will slip free of the end supports before it actually breaks. I had a particle board shelf over a kitchen sink in my old house. The steam from washing dishes caused the board to sag under the weight of the cookbooks something fierce. I had almost a full 1 foot displacement from the low point of the center to the height of the shelf supports on the sides. The shelf was only 5 feet long, so you can imagine how much of a bow that was. My shelf was screwed into the side supports so it couldn't slip out. Mine bowed within the first year of it being there (when I moved in there was one there that was just as bad, and I replaced it). It stayed bowed for 2 years until I got annoyed at everything falling over from the angle. I then screwed a hook into the shelf, and into the ceiling, and over the course of a few days, pulled the board straight using a chain (I couldn't add another support in the middle because it was in front of a window). With the help of the chain, the board remained almost perfectly straight for the last 2 years I lived there (I was never able to get it exactly straight again and I didn't feel like replacing the shelf again in a place I was renting). So my guess is, you will get a large bow in that board without it breaking. The only fear I would have is the board bowing so much it slips off the end supports and the entire shelf drops. If you can find a way to resupport the middle you can probably stop the bow entirely and it will continue to give you years of happy service. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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building an RS-485<->RS422 converter

by dickset＠amanda.spole.gov

I have a need to build a serial converter down here. ISTR RS-422 drivers are something like 26L32s, which we have. What I'm not sure of is what to use for the RS485 end. Any suggestions? Obviously, I'll have to use what's here since we won't see any planes for five more months. Thanks for any pointers. -ethan -- Ethan Dicks, A-130-S Current South Pole Weather at 26-May-2004 22:00 Z South Pole Station PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -79.9 F (-62.2 C) Windchill -113.7 F (-81 C) APO AP 96598 Wind 8 kts Grid 044 Barometer 680.7 mb (10599. ft) Ethan.Dicks(a)amanda.spole.gov http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html

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ST6803P datasheet?

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

At 01:23 27/05/2004 +0100, you wrote: >Jules Richardson wrote: >> I have a few of the things (and a whole pile of 68A09 CPUs which also >> seem very hard to find data for). > >The 6809 data sheet should tell you about the 68A09 and 68B09, too. >As for software, there's always "Programming The 6809" by Rodnay Zaks >and William Labiak. Or "6809 Assembly Language Programming" by >Lance Leventhal. Both the the 6809 data sheet, and the Motorola 6809/6809E Microprocessor Programming Manual are available on my web site: http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html Go to the "D6809 Portable" entry, and then select "Documentation" and scroll down to the "Reference material" section. Regards, -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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Paging Michael Thompson

by vcf＠siconic.com

Michael Thompson, I can't e-mail you because of a spam filter on your side :( Have you got an alternate address? Please e-mail me (I can receive >from you). -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Pressed Particle Board Shelving Warning

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 27, 0:18, R. D. Davis wrote: > While there's nothing extremely heavy on the shelves - e.g., one shelf > contains a Canon laser printer (the square one with a CX engine), > about 40 full-height 5-1/4" hard drives, an 8" floppy drive and a few > other things, I noticed that some of the items on some of the shelves > appear to be leaning slightly. It turns out that the boards are > sagging a bit towards the center, so it's just a matter of time before > things begin to go crash. Not sure how soon that might happen, but > this sagging has occurred fairly quickly, or so it seems. Perhaps this will reassure you a bit. This happens gradually over time to particle board (we call it chipboard over here), and it probably hasn't happened suddenly -- it's just that you didn't notice until it reached some threshold. The board is very flexible,and it will bend a long way before it gives way. It's very common to see sagging shelves especially where the suports are at or near the ends instead of about 1/4 of the way in (so the forces on each side balance better). It's also very common to see cabinets (chest of drawers, kitchen cupboard standing alone) with sides bowing outwards. I've seen a chipboard shelf sag so much it slipped between the end supports, but rarely seen one snap. For bookshelves, using 5/8" chipboard, a general recommendation is no more than 2'6" between supports, assuming the shelf is about 50% deeper than the books. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Wanted: M9312 ROMs

by aek＠spies.com

here's a fairly complete list of part numbers. bob supnik was looking for the XE etherboot prom a while back if one should turn up -- RL01, RL02 (DL) 23-751A9 RK06, RK07 (DM) 23-752A9 RX01 floppy disk, single density (DX) 23-753A9 RP02/RP03 (DP), Massbus RP04, RP05, RP06, RM02, RM03 (DB) 23-755A9 RK03, RK05 DECdisk (DK), TU55, TU56 DECtape (DT) 23-756A9 TU45, TU77, TE16 Massbus tape (MM) 23-757A9 TS03, TU10, TE10 tape (MT) 23-758A9 RS03, RS04 (DS) 23-759A9 ASR33 (TT), PC05 (PP) 23-760A9 TU60 DECcassette (CT) 23-761A9 RS11, RS64 23-762A9 CR11 card reader 23-763A9 TS04, TS11, TU80 tape (MS) 23-764A9 TU58 DECtape II (DD) 23-765A9 MSCP disk, including UDA50, RAxx (DU) 23-767A9 RX02 floppy disk, double density (DY) 23-811A9 DECnet DDCMP DMC11, DMR11 (XM) 23-862A9 23-863A9 23-864A9 DECnet DDCMP DUP11 (XW) 23-865A9 23-866A9 23-867A9 DECnet DDCMP DU11 (XU) 23-868A9 23-869A9 23-870A9 DECnet DDCMP DL11-E (XL) 23-926A9 23-927A9 23-928A9 DECnet Ethernet DEUNA (XE) 23-E22A9 TMSCP tape including TK50, TU81 (MU) 23-E39A9 proms are: 82S131, Am27S13, 63S241, 74S571 512x4 three-state

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ST6803P datasheet?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody know where I can find a datasheet for this? I didn't find ANYTHING about the 6803 on SGS-Thomson's website. Joe

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Wanted: M9312 ROMs

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 26, 21:19, Fred N. van Kempen wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2004, wai-sun chia wrote: > > So I'll need boot ROMs which supports RA and DU disks. Because my 11/04 used to be an embedded CNC drill controller, in the place of the regular CPU diagnostic is has a weird proprietary program which tries to initialize some long-gone/dead equipment which used to be connected to the PDP. > > > > In summary, I'm willing to pay a fair/reasonable price for the following M9312 ROMs (unless some one has spares, then I wouldn't mind them free of course :-)): > ... > > Although I assume we can all check our systems and boards and come > up with all of these, wouldnt it be much nicer (and cheaper) if you > just get the ROM contents as binary files, which you then plug into > an eprom? Unfortunately they're small bipolar fusible-link PROMs which are hard to get and almost as hard to find a programmer for (unless you're me or Tony). The A9 types are 82S131 (or MMI6306, 75S171, 27S13, 93448, etc) 16-pin DIL 512-words by 4-bit wide, and the F1 types are 82S137 (or TI24S41, MMI6353, 74S573, 27SS33, 93453, etc) 18-pin DIL 1024 words x 4-bit wide. The idea of storing the images is a good one, however. As far as I know you can't get these from DEC/Compaq/HP any more, so I'll host them if anyone has images to add to the collection. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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9312 ROM Archiving

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Although I'm not collecting computers any more, I still run a large FTP site, and I have the capability to read (and program) all kinds of devices, including bipolar PROMs. I would be happy to donate my services at no cost (well, perhaps enough to cover return mail) in terms of archiving images of the boot PROMs, and making them available for download. All I would need is original (or copied) PROMs to be read and archived, along with a description of which ROM is for what purpose. The original devices would then be returned to whoever sent them. I invite anyone who wants to do this to contact me via private E-mail, and I will set it up. Keep the peace(es). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?"

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What's the weirdest thing that you've ever found inside a computer?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 26, 12:28, Fred Cisin wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2004, Joe R. wrote: > > connectors and gender menders. But I got to wondering what is the strangest > > thing that anyone has ever found inside a computer or similar piece of > > electronics gear. > > folding money in a disused floppy drive? - gives added meaning to > "best price", or "how much would you pay me to take it away?" A penny (a large British one) inside a Commodore PET; it was the cause of the shorted PSU and blown fuse. I've often found extra screws rattling around inside things. Paper clips are pretty common, as are biscuit crumbs and bits of crisp ("potato chips", you colonists call them, I believe). The worst was the dust in an 11/23 I was once called out to fix. It wouldn't boot (which turned out to be because it was overheating). When I slid the cover off the BA11-N, it looked like a large grey brick. I explained to the owners that having it on the floor under the reception desk was perhaps not the best place for this hotel's call logger and billing system. But the strangest must be the 1?" No.8 woodscrew inside an RK05 pack. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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PDP11/04 DL11 Console Emulator woes..

by squidster＠techie.com

SUCCESS! You guys are great!! I wired the E and M pins together at the BERG connector and everything is as documented in the M9312 manual. Weird that for such an important wiring/setting, this wasn't mentioned at all in the manual.. Well I guess that's what a community is for.. :-) /wai-sun -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

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What's the weirdest thing that you've ever found inside a com puter?

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Not in a computer but .. A used condom inside the back of monitor receiver in an outside broadcast radio van. To get inside this receiver you had to unscrew it from the wall then unscrew the back cover, not the sort of "Quick! Hide it in here!" job you would expect. Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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Wanted: M9312 ROMs

by aek＠spies.com

> Burning an EPROM seems like an easy way to go. They are small bipolar roms

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Outbound laptop

by vcf＠siconic.com

You'll have to pay some decent money for it, but if you've been looking for an Outbound for a while, here's an opportunity: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5701457714 The Outbound is an interesting laptop. Produced in the late 1980's (or early 1990s?) it was an answer to Apple's lack of a decent laptop. You had to pull the ROMs from your SE in order to use it though, as they shipped without ROMs to avoid getting sued by Apple. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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What's the weirdest thing that you've ever found inside a computer?

by cb＠mythtech.net

>paper clips in floppy drive Paper clips, 3x5 index cards, Post-It pads, or other scrap paper is normally stored in the floppy drives of the PCs in my call center. They think that slot is really for office supply storage. I no longer consider that strange, in fact, I now expect it and have redesigned how I deal with those machines anticipating that the floppy drives have all been broken because of it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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What's the weirdest thing that you've ever found inside a computer?

by d_cymbal＠hotmail.com

>connectors and gender menders. But I got to wondering what is the strangest >thing that anyone has ever found inside a computer or similar piece of >electronics gear. > > Joe 1/2 a dead rat in a big old dot-matrix printer. Well, actually it was a whole rat, but 1/2 was ground up really bad in the gear mechanisms and you couldn't really tell what it was anymore. (This was found as a result of a "my printer's not working!" complaint). _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/

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PDP-11/23 (free)

by ken.rauhala＠nokia.com

Hi, This was my home PC before the days of IBM PC and Microsoft. It goes back to late 1970's and early 1980's. Comes with RT-11 operating system on RX02 floopies, manuals, printer, and VT100 terminal. Located in Merrimack NH. I'm not on this mail list so reply to me directly or call. Ken Rauhala +1 781 993 4626

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Outbound laptop

by cb＠mythtech.net

>You'll have to pay some decent money for it, but if you've been looking >for an Outbound for a while, here's an opportunity: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5701457714 <sigh> ANOTHER machine I've always wanted that has now moved into the "too expensive for me" realm. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Interesting Flops From the past

by gmanuel＠gmconsulting.net

Some pretty funny old stuff. http://www.insearchofstupidity.com/Stupid_Marketing/Museum_Exhibits/Stupid_P roducts/stupid_products.html Hope you enjoy. Greg Manuel ==> FREE spam killer: http://eliminatespam.com * FREE PopUp Buster+: http://popupbuster.net * $500 BONUS: http://www.freebonus4you.com/

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HP 1000 System in Huntsville AL

by g-wright＠att.net

This is a pallet load of HP 1000 Pieces. If no one saw this, maybe some will keep it from the scrapers. I would take them if they where closer. http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=381756 Jerry

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Encore Annex ANN 02 Terminal Server

by jnick＠cs.adelaide.edu.au

Hi, Thanks to everyone who responded. I'll post a working solution, if I can produce one, to the list. This isn't intended to close off this thread but I did want to record my appreciation of the really useful answers so far. Of course now I'm lamenting that I didn't save one of the IPXs that went into the skip so I could run a SunOS 4.1.3 server for the software! Cheers, Nick. -- -- Nick Falkner -- PhD Student -- Distributed and High Performance Computing Group -- The University of Adelaide

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kaypro 16/2

by srstein＠seattleschools.org

can the kaypro 16/2 be easily upgraded to include a hard drive. If so, what drive would fit in it and does it have a controller on board already. Sandy

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IBM AT Free to a Good Home

by melamy＠earthlink.net

I'll take it. I have been looking for a real AT... best regards, Steve Thatcher -----Original Message----- From: Bill Richman <bill(a)timeguy.com> Sent: May 17, 2004 3:21 PM To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Subject: IBM AT Free to a Good Home I have an IBM AT with all original docs and keyboard, in like-new condition from the original owner. It can be yours for the price of shipping. Note that it has an upgrade VGA video card in place of the usual mono or CGA/EGA card, and that it currently will not boot from the hard drive (which is why he finally upgraded to a PC made in the last 20 years). A 14" VGA monitor, IBM ProPrinter, and Okidata 320 printer are also available as part of the bundle. E-mail if you have questions or want the thing. Note that I ship via Mailboxes Etc. so be prepared to pay their packing/shipping rates or arrange to pick it up.

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Chicago Test equipment sale???

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Anyone go to the Chicago test equipment sale? Can you please post a report. Curious how it was? Paxton Astoria, OR

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Connection Machine

by mross666＠hotmail.com

>From: Ken Campbell <ken(a)fraserhouse.com> >Subject: Connection Machine > >Silly question, I'm sure, but has anyone ever seen a CM-1 or CM-2 >Connection Machine in the wild? > >For those not familiar with it: http://mission.base.com/tamiko/cm/ There are several in the wild, including mine. See: http://www.corestore.org/super.htm Please note my 'wanted' list: CM front-ends, software, and interface cables. Also as of today I'm looking for an RH780... my VAX-11/780 showed up and it hasn't got one :( Mike http://www.corestore.org

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PDP11/04 DL11 Console Emulator woes..

by squidster＠techie.com

Greetings, I have been playing with my recently acquired PDP11/04 (BA11-L) and restoration has been going quite well (anybody who needs hints on how to convert a H777-CA/115V to a H777-CB/240V, please give me a ping). The console device is a DL11-W/M7856 which came with a 20mA (orginal console was a TTY), which I don't have. BTW, the bootstrap device is M7312. Therefore, I proceeded to make my own EIA cable from the DL11 manual so that I can use my VT320. I made a standard null modem configuration (BERG-DB25F) and made the necessary 9600/8N1 jumper changes to the DL11-W... The result is that I can get into the console emulator no problem and get the "@" prompt. But the problem is that the console doesn't seem to recognize any of my inputs; i.e. I can simply type anything and it doesn't response. I seem to be receiving data fine, but looks like whatever I transmit from my VT the DL11 doesn't seem to grok/respond. Any clues? Thanks. /wai-sun -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

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IBM AT Free to a Good Home

by melamy＠earthlink.net

only if it is about their main IT person, Joe Linux... :) >Are Microsoft jokes still acceptable? >

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Qwint Systems?

by sloboyko＠yahoo.com

> What you probably have is a Qwint 740 or 780 (I'd have > to see it to know what model). It was the smallest > plain paper teletype replacement probably ever built. I have a TI model that I think is a tad smaller than the Qwint. Ahhh, but the trick is that it's PLAIN PAPER (dot matrix impact). Qwint sold these printers to VAR's that found this very useful (filling out multipart forms, etc). It's cost per page was much lower than thermal, also. ===== -Steve Loboyko Incredible wisdom actually found in a commerical fortune cookie: "When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day." Website: http://juliepalooza.8m.com/sl __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer

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Interesting Apple PowerBook tablet computer

by jbmcb＠hotmail.com

>From: "Teo Zenios" <teoz(a)neo.rr.com> >Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic >Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" ><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: Interesting Apple PowerBook tablet computer >Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:55:29 -0400 > >The ANS 500 looks impressive, but your stuck running one version of AIX and >there is no support for anything newer then what shipped with the unit >(sure >there is probably a version of Linux for it). There really isn't much >information about these units around, must have died a quick death in the >market. > >I don't see why an AWS95 isn't considered a real server since it was the >best/last platform for A/UX, has a 300 watt power supply, security key that >controls power, and room for lots of scsi drives internally and externally. > The AWS95 is a monster, in desktop computer terms. It's got a massive, cache-accelerated SCSI-II controller eating up the PDS slot, tons of NuBus and memory slots, includes a DAT drive, and A/UX FLIES on it. The ANS hardware is interesting, I remember a MacWorld article on them, and they seem pretty beasty. RAID, redundant, hot-swappable power supplies, LCD status screen, etc... As far as alternate OSes go, I assume you could get some version of Linux running on it, and, *of course*: http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/

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OT eBay Offline?

by john_boffemmyer_iv＠boff-net.dhs.org

Out in NY at 8am - so far for almost half an hour now, I can't hit eBay. It's like it starts to hit the site and fails to load (seems to hang on load.ebaystatic.com). Anyone else having issues with this? I can hit anywhere else pretty much fine. -John Boffemmyer IV ---------------------------------------- Founder, Lead Writer, Tech Analyst and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html ---------------------------------------

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TD Systems TDL-12 ?

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hi all, Does anyone have info on a half-height Qbus board from TD Systems, called the TDL-12 ? It seems to be a semi-smart SCSI interface, given its components. I cant find anything on the web :( Cheers, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA

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Star Trek

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

If you're not already bored with it, I've updated my Star Trek page http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/startrek/ again, to add a few links and some info I recently got in email from Aron Insinga, who wrote the RSTS version published by DECUS. Any more useful links or unusual versions, or other BASIC games for the BASIC Games page, all gratefully received... Oh, and does anyone know for sure if the William K Char who wrote TREK73 is the same William K Char listed on the PCC Alumni page? Or William Char at Stellar Games/Game Masters? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Protected Mail Request

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

Waiting for a Response. Please read the attachment.

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Encore Annex ANN 02 Terminal Server

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 24, 12:15, Nickolas Falkner wrote: > Does anyone have any information on this model? Not exactly the same model, but Sun rebadged one of the Annex models as the Sun NTS (Network Terminal Server). You might find "SunService Tip Sheet:NTS Annex Network Terminal Server" useful; it's INFODOC ID: 13031 and it includes most of the ROM commands as well as examples of how to set it up. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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History of RSTS booklet

by wacarder＠usit.net

Remember a couple weeks ago I was asking about a "History of RSTS" booklet? Lo and behold, today in the mail I received a package from my former college professor, who maintained and ran our PDP 11/40 >from 1975 to 1989. I opened it and inside I found a bound copy of the "History of RSTS" booklet. It has pretty much the same info that is on the web site, including the fictitious history starting around 1990. It makes a nice addition to my little collection. Ashley

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TD Systems

by aek＠spies.com

Zane has some information on them. ftp://zane.brouhaha.com/pub/dan/viking_scsi/

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Finds at the weekend

by coredump＠gifford.co.uk

Well, car boot sale season has started again here, so I went with a friend to the local one and we came back with: * Sun JavaStation, ?2 * Two DEC PCXAS-AA mice, ?1 * Five DEC MMJ cables, ?1.50 We also saw quite a few mundane PC clones, several game consoles (Sega MegaDrive and PlayStation 1) and a few AcornSoft games. Oh well, hopefully we'll get some good stuff again next week! -- John Honniball coredump(a)gifford.co.uk

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poormans transputer

by CCTalk＠catcorner.org

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jacob Dahl Pind [mailto:rachael@rachael.dyndns.org] > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 4:36 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: poormans transputer > > > I found a specialix si/xio multi serial port controler, sadly without > the cables and actual link modules... > I have several of the interface boxes available (8 port ones). I don't have spare cables though. Where are you located? Note that you should never plug these in or unplg them with the power on. It would be a "very bad thing". I'm speaking from experience here. Thanks, Kelly

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Interesting Apple PowerBook tablet computer

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Woah, that just made it on to my Apple wish list: >TV-Top appliance prototype These are readily available on ebay. I've seen them often closing with no bids at $10.00. I got mine at a garage sale, paid $5.00 for it. Some mom was selling off her son's collection of "stuff" because he left for college. I would have LOVED to hear that fight when he came home on break and found out! Mine, like all the others I know of, lacks the remote control, and doesn't actually do anything. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Interesting Apple PowerBook tablet computer

by jbmcb＠hotmail.com

Woah, that just made it on to my Apple wish list: Apple Lisa (Original with working twiggy drives) Apple III PowerCD Player MacTV G4 Cube Pippin TV-Top appliance prototype Apple Network Server Color Classic II 20th Anniversary Mac *Freestyle* >From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> >Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic >Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >To: Classic Computers Mailing List <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Interesting Apple PowerBook tablet computer >Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 11:41:10 -0700 (PDT) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from huey.classiccmp.org ([209.145.140.36]) by >mc5-f27.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Mon, 24 May 2004 >11:48:03 -0700 >Received: from huey.classiccmp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])by >huey.classiccmp.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i4OIwxhp081224;Mon, 24 >May 2004 14:00:39 -0500 (CDT)(envelope-from cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org) >Received: from siconic.com (host14.address.com [69.36.235.14] (may be >forged))by huey.classiccmp.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id >i4OIwkhc081180for <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>; Mon, 24 May 2004 13:58:50 -0500 >(CDT)(envelope-from vcf(a)siconic.com) >Received: from localhost (vcf@localhost)by siconic.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE >Linux 0.5) with ESMTP idi4OIfAv00965for <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>; Mon, 24 >May 2004 11:41:10 -0700 >X-Message-Info: 6sSXyD95QpV9mYT1wWGqwv6UYCtLiJkz >Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0405241139550.32171-100000(a)siconic.com> >X-BeenThere: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: list >List-Id: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic >Posts"<cctalk.classiccmp.org> >List-Unsubscribe: ><http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>,<mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk> >List-Post: <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> >List-Help: <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: ><http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>,<mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=subscribe> >Errors-To: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org >Return-Path: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 May 2004 18:48:05.0093 (UTC) >FILETIME=[A5E39150:01C441BF] > > >Did any of these ever sell? > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4133134046 > >More info: > >http://www.everymac.com/systems/assistivetech/freestyle/freestyle.html > >-- > >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer >Festival >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >International Man of Intrigue and Danger >http://www.vintage.org > >[ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers > ] >[ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org > ] > _________________________________________________________________ Get 200+ ad-free, high-fidelity stations and LIVE Major League Baseball Gameday Audio! http://radio.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200491ave/direct/01/

22 years, 3 months

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Omni key

by mark＠freedom22.org

Hi Dave, Saw your article about the keyboard. I'm interested in purchasing it for $5 plus shipping. I'm in Indiana, zip code 46601. Can you tell me how much shipping would be, and if you still have the keyboard? Thanks Mark mherro(a)attglobal.net

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Interesting Apple PowerBook tablet computer

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Did any of these ever sell? > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4133134046 They must have. The ebay seller just aquired the unit from someone on the LEM Swap list. The original dealer on the swap list said be bought it from an estate auction in Texas, and that there were a bunch of them. He reported 2 complete working units, plus enough broken ones to make 12-15 more. He said the broken ones all had the typical PB 5300 failures (like broken power connectors). His feeling was, the items may have been from a repair facility originally. (He put a friend onto them that will use them for education where the touch screens will come in handy, so as a result, he was left with just the one unit which he traded for some other parts to the person that is now selling it on ebay). Its a shame to see it end up on ebay. I'd have been much happier to see it go directly to a collector that would have valued it and not hocked it off to the highest bidder. Now who knows where it will wind up. (I myself was interested in it, but since I could only offer $100, I didn't have much of a shot at getting it when others reportedly offered $500 for it) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Hitachi hand hald terminal?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone know what this is? <http://home.cfl.rr.com/rigdon14/epc-7/hitachi.jpg> It's marked "Hitachi model H40PC01". It has an alpha-numeric keyboard so I'm guessing that it may be some kind of hand held terminal. There's a paper label on the display that's marked "Page | Addr | A B X Y spx spy s/c". It appears to have a green VF display but it gets it's power via the ribbon cable so I haven't been able to power it up. It has a 26 conductor ribbon cable about 3 foot logn attached to it with an IDC socket on the other end. Joe

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Encore Annex ANN 02 Terminal Server

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 24, 12:15, Brad Parker wrote: > Patrick Finnegan wrote: > >On Monday 24 May 2004 06:15, Brad Parker wrote: > >> > >> I think you'll need the annex software to talk to it and configure it > >> over ethernet. I'd think that would be reasonably easy to fine > >> (heh). > > > >I've given up looking for mine. The software seems to be basically > >impossible to find. I think I found a guy via Google who claimed to > >have software for an Annex 1, but he never got back to me about it. > > I think I have some around here somewhere on 1/4" tape. I gave away > my microannex but I know who has it. I'll check. If you can't find it, give me a heads-up and I'll put my copy on a web page somewhere, temporarily. I can't find the original tar files (I have at least two versions) just at the moment, but if all else fails I'll do a "make clean" on the top-level directory and tar the rest up for you. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Apple ][ compact flash drive

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Dont know if people are already familiar with this, but I just found it: http://dreher.net/?s=projects/CFforAppleII&c=projects/CFforAppleII/main.php Looks like someone built an apple card for compact flash that looks like a hard drive? Oh, also has an IDE interface. Works with ][, ][+, //e and later. Prodos 8 and GS/OS supported. Apparently not DOS3.3 Jay West --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

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Encore Annex ANN 02 Terminal Server

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 24, 7:15, Brad Parker wrote: > > Nickolas Falkner wrote: > > > >I've tried powering on with the switch in diag and normal and terminal > >connected at 9600,4800,2400 and 1200 (all N-8-1) but, so far, no joy. > > As I recall, dimly, it probably wants to boot over the network using a > xylogics proprietary protocol. I don't remember if that one would tftp, > but I don't think so. If it's like the other Annexes, like the two I have here, there's nothing proprietary about it at all. You can do the basic setup (IP address etc) either using BOOTP or by using the serial console, and the rest in admin mode either via telnet or the serial console, or you can tell it to use TFTP to download a config file when it boots. If you're trying to talk to it using the serial console, it should default to 9600 baud, 8N1, unless someone has changed it. However, the pinout of the RJ45 console port is unique. There's no standard for such things: Cisco, Sun, Xylogics (Annex), Newbridge, and several others, all used different pinouts. In particular, a Cisco or Sun cable will not work on an Annex. See the second link below for pinout and other info. > I think you'll need the annex software to talk to it and configure it > over ethernet. I'd think that would be reasonably easy to fine (heh). You can download a tar file of the Annex software. There is a proprietary utility called 'na' which is worth compiling; it allows you to set the config fairly easily (you can read the existing config to a file, modify the file, and write it back). The other often-quoted proprietart thing is 'erpcd', which can be used for booting, downloading config at boot, etc, but you only really need it if you want to use Xylogics' extended authentication methods. Otherwise standard Unix things work fine (don't waste your time with Windows). Do be aware that different versions of the Annex terminal servers need different boot code, so don't try to load the wrong one! http://www25.nortelnetworks.com/library/rannex/relnotes/R10.1A-Release_Note… http://www.ofb.net/~jheiss/annex/ http://lost-contact.mit.edu/afs/net.mit.edu/project/afs32/andrew/netdev/sun… Google might find you more. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Interesting Apple PowerBook tablet computer

by vcf＠siconic.com

Did any of these ever sell? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4133134046 More info: http://www.everymac.com/systems/assistivetech/freestyle/freestyle.html -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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FREE (NL): DEC VR150 mono monitor

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hi All, Free to a good home: DEC VR150 monochrome monitor with single composite video input. Used with VS3100's and works fine. Contact me off-list if interested! Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA

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