Rumor has it that David V. Corbin may have mentioned these words:
> >>> > The free software from Atmel & Lattice are geared around
> >>> the newer FPGAs that you could build a 6809 out of....
>
>Has anyone actually done this? The reason I ask is I developed a bunh of
>code around the 6809 architecture. Some of it would be worth resurrecting IF
>I code get a "micro-codable" implementation with some other features...Just
>an idea...or maybe the dementia is surfacing....
Yes... Off the top of my head:
http://www.inicore.com/
They made an FPGA-based 40Mhz 6809... (they say it'll do 10Mips!)
Otay, memory served, but here's a page directly to the info:
http://www.inicore.com/core_lib/inicpu.htm
[[ I have *no* idea on cost -- just stumbled across it during a google
search a couple of years ago. ]]
Also, if you're looking for something "more updated" there's always the
Hitachi 63C09 - it's 4 Mhz, and has more registers, a 16-bit integer
multiply (with a 32-bit result) and clock for clock is faster than the 6809.
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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to re-iterate, the separate sections I am proposing let the emulator do this very easily. Embed the format and the data together as pyhsical information and then the matter of extracting a file for emulation becomes difficult and not universal.
best regards, Steve Thatcher
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From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com>
Sent: Aug 11, 2004 2:30 PM
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Let's develop an open-source media archive standard
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Sean 'Captain Napalm' Conner wrote:
> It was thus said that the Great Vintage Computer Festival once stated:
> >
> > HOWEVER, this makes it very difficult to use the imagefile on an emulator.
> > To use the floppy disk example again, if the emulator wants Track 14
> > Sector 8 (or Block 417) but it has not been explicitly laid out in the
> > imagefile because it was originally zeroes, then the emulator, if poorly
> > designed, may crap out.
>
> Are you trying to create an archive format, or a format that is to be used
> by emulators? I say skip the emulators and concentrate on archival
> purposes. An emulator can then use the archive format to create a disk
> image in whatever internal format it requires.
This is exactly what I have in mind. It's an archive format that can be
used by emulators. The emulator would only need a front end that can
interpret the archive image into an internal data structure that it can
use.
> Don't complicate the problem.
We're not trying to at least ;)
> -spc (And don't try to become everything for everybody ... )
Not trying to do that, but we are trying to make it a format for
everything (or at least as much as possible that makes sense).
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Thanks Tony - I have swabbed it with Isopropyl alcohol - I assume that's the same thing.
They're a real bugger as you have to pull the drives out to get to the heads because the things are so big.
I figured an alignment disk was needed but was fishing a bit too as I suspect an 8" one is hard to find.
Another theory I had was that I figured that Drive 0 has probably had a lot more use so I might try swapping them around if I can sort out the jumpers (if they have any) and see if I can get it to boot.
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[mailto:cctech-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Tony Duell
Sent: Wednesday, 25 August 2004 9:08 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Drive alignment
>
> I have a TRS80 Model 12 that's been upgraded to a 16B (with two 8"
> slim-line floppies). I am trying to copy some discs but not having much
> joy.
>
> One theroy is the media is cactus.
>
> The other theory is that following some reading about these machines,
> because of the size of the drives they tended to get out of alignment
> regularly. How do I check alignment on the old classics.
Take a known-good blank 8" disk and format it on one of your drives. If
you can then read/write to it in that drive without problems, then the
only thing that could be wrong with the drive is the alignment. If it
fails, then you have other problems with the drive.
To check the alignment properly, you need a CE (Catseye) disk and a
'scope. Basically the disk has a special patern recorded on it (this
cannot be copied using a normal drive, BTW) and you look at the outputs
of the read amplifier with a the 'scope. You see a pattern of 2 lobes on
the 'scope screen -- if they're the same height the head is alighed, if
one is larger than the other it's offset from the correct position.
It's not hard to do, but the Catseye disk is expensive (I am still
looking for the 8" and 3" ones, BTW...).
My experience suggests that head radial alignment is not normally a
problem unless you've replaced parts of the drive. More likely is a dirty
head (you have cleaned it, right? With a cotton bud dipped in
propan-2-ol, not one of those useless cleaning disks), a worn-out head,
other mechnaicl problems, or an electronic failure.
-tony
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I've been searching the net for DOS based electronics software, and I'm
coming up pretty dry. Was hoping someone had suggestions with all the
electronics folks here.
1) Looking for a dos based databook application, primarily for 74xx series
and such. Something that will give me quick access to pinouts, data sheet
info, etc. I did find a promising dos app called ICID, but alas, when it
goes to display pinout info it just blanks the screen on my Toshiba 3200
(only on the pinout page, the rest of the app displays fine).
2) Also need a DOS based semiconductor cross reference guide. I've found a
few out there that are free, but they are all windows based.
3) Lastly, looking for a program that will collect data from and control my
1631 logic analyser via HPIB. I can't find anything on this.
4) Any other handy dos programs for the bench.
Please help, I can't stand the thought of a Windows machine being on the
bench next to me vintage gear :>
Regards,
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>From: "Terry Yager" <tyger69(a)chartermi.net>
>
>What I've seen (numerous times) with those double-sided 8" drives is when the
drives are shipped/moved without the proper head protecting cardboard inserts,
the heads themselves tend to slam against each other every time the truck hits a
bump. This causes the heads, which are made of glass, to chip, crack and break.
In the most extreme cases, the broken head will actually cut a groove in the
media. Look for holes or grooves in your floppies.
>
>--T
>
>Jam the computer...trash every lethal machine in the land! -- Timothy Leary
>
Hi
The other thing is, if this is a single sided disk, the pressure
pad may have accumulation on it such that it causes the media
to not set flat against the head. A little cleaning with a nail
file work well on these pads. It removes deposits and flattens
the surface. Just don't file it down to nothing.
Dwight
What I've seen (numerous times) with those double-sided 8" drives is when the drives are shipped/moved without the proper head protecting cardboard inserts, the heads themselves tend to slam against each other every time the truck hits a bump. This causes the heads, which are made of glass, to chip, crack and break. In the most extreme cases, the broken head will actually cut a groove in the media. Look for holes or grooves in your floppies.
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I was on the original team that developed ABEL, the Data I/O PLD language.
I co-authored a book "Digital Design using ABEL" in 1994 that came with
a special copy of ABEL version 5.0. I have this book in electronic form.
I also have versions of ABEL from 1.0 to 5.0 that run without a dongal.
These are DOS versions. I have a mag tape of ABEL 1.0 for VMS (I think.)
Xilinx owns the current ABEL software and Prentice Hall owns the copyright
on the book. However I will post a copy of my book and a full version of
ABEL 5.0 on the web somewhere. I will make the link available on request.
-------------------------------
Michael Holley
swtpc6800(a)comcast.net
www.swtpc.com
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> I just landed hands on a Mac SE. It is currently running system 6, I
>only have a bout 2mb of memory
>and a 20mb hard drive. I even have an imagewriter to go with it!! :^)
If you want to raise that to 4 MB (the max it can handle), give me a
mailing address (off list), I'll send you 2 more 1 MB SIMMs for it.
>Will system 7 run ok on this machine?
Run? Yes, Ok? Eh. Not at all if you don't go to 4 MB, but yes it can run
7.5.5, it just runs it a bit slower then 6.0.8 (both are downloadable
>from Apple's Web site)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>I don't know if it would work at all in your vintage of Mac SE, but I
>have piles and piles of the Macintosh high density 'super drive' floppy
>disk drives from a lot of different ages of Macs. Can someone chime in
>on wether your SE could be upgraded to use one just by swapping the
>drive? If so, you can have one or several for the cost of postage.
No, you can't just swap the drive. The FDHD or SuperDrive requires newer
ROMs. You would have to swap the logic board as well.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
"Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I'm assuming there are no ISA wireless cards, especially with DOS drivers.
Actually I have in front of me an ISA card that accepts a PCMCIA
Lucent wireless card.
I have no clue as to whether you can get DOS (packet) drivers
for that card, but the card *is* supported under Linux/*BSD
Best Regards
**vp
Hello,
I've recently added an IRIS 3130 machine to my collection. It is a
MultiBus based SGI with a Motorola 68020 CPU, additional Floating
Point unit and the typical 5 or 6 board graphics subsystem. It's
complete with original UNIX documentation and owners guide as well
as the original extras (monitor, keyboard, mouse).
I'd like to get it up and running again but I can't get any of the
backups back on a "fresh" ESDI drive (the original died). According
to the Old IRIS FAQ the drive is supported. As far as I can see it
is also detected but the process that should restore the
installation back to harddisk dies quite early in the copy stage.
Thus the current status is: The machine passes POST without
problems, it can be talked into booting the installer and
partitioning tool from tape but it crashes during the copy
operation.
As I said I'd like to get this beast up and running (i.e. have an OS
Installed). A "nice to have bonus" would be having a working TCP/IP
stack on it so that it can run in my network (an Ethernet board is
present).
Any hints / help is *very* much appreciated. I can -of course-
provide additional information if it is needed.
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Has anyone got any models of the Toshiba Dynabook or Sharp Moebius? These
were models that were not generally sold within the US. This is for the
same project I referenced before, so I'm interested in acquiring certain
models.
Please contact me directly if you have any.
Thanks!
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I have been looking for a card like this for 3 years. I would like to buy it, if it is still available.
My Name is Gene Mc Mullin
I live in the USA
My EMail is genemc41(a)cox.net
Please reply.
Thank you......Gene
I'm working on a research project for a client and am looking for a large
lot of mid-90s laptops.
They do not need to be in functional condition, nor do they even need to
look pretty, but the screen should be intact (i.e. not missing, no
breakage). Otherwise, missing parts (keys, drives, batteries, etc.) is
fine.
I'm willing to pay a reasonable fee plus shipping for each. If you have
any of these, please e-mail me directly.
Toshiba T1000LE
Acer AcerNote 750C
Acer AcerNote 760CX
Acer AcerNote 780CX
Ambra N450T
AMS TravelPro 5325
Apple PowerBook 270c
AST Ascentia 900N
AST PowerExec 173W
AST PowerExec 203W
AST PowerExec 4/33SL
AT&T Globalyst 200
AT&T/NCR Safari 3180
Business Audio
Compaq Contura 400C
Compaq LTE Elite 4/40CX
Compaq LTE Elite 4/50CX
Compaq LTE Lite 4/33C
CTX LMT-5020
Dell Latitude XP
Dell Latitude XP 4100CX
Everex StepNote
IBM 701C
IBM ThinkPad 360C
IBM ThinkPad 360CE
IBM ThinkPad 750C
IBM ThinkPad 755CD
IBM ThinkPad 755CE
Midwest Micro Elite 486SX/DX
Midwest Micro SoundBook
MPC 799
MPC 875
MPC 899
MPC CD-Book 800
NCR 3150
NEC LCD1280
NEC UltraLite Versa 33c
NEC Versa M
NEC Versa P
NEC Versa S
NEC Versa V
NEC Versa V/50C
Notemaster S394ST SENSLite 200
Panasonic V21
Panasonic V41
Samsung SENS 700
Sharp LC-10C1U
Sharp PC-8900
Tadpole P1000
TI TravelMate 4000E
TI TravelMate 5000
TI TravelMate TM4000M
Toshiba Portege T3400CT
Toshiba Portege T3600CT
Toshiba Satellite T1950CT
Toshiba T2100CT
Toshiba T2150CDT
Toshiba T2400CT
Toshiba T2450CT
Toshiba T3400CT
Toshiba T4600C
Toshiba T4800CT
Toshiba T4850CT
TwinHead SlimNote 486E
TwinHead SlimNote 5100T
WinBook XP
Zenith Z-Note 433Lnc Plus
Zenith Z-NoteFlex ZNF75CT8/5
Zeos Meridian 400A
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So here I am... doing backups of an 80GB Maxtor drive when it craps out in
the _middle_ of the backup. :-(
>From my digging around this morning, there appears to be a problem reading
the reserved area that results in it being detected by the BIOS as a "Maxtor
ROMULUS" (the class of drive).
>From further digging, it appears that I won't be able to shake this thing
loose without professional help. I got 25GB of data off of it before it
died, but since I don't have a directory, I can't even evaluate if it's
worth $$$ to get the rest.
So... before I proceed, I was curious who on the list has used professional
data recovery services, and who does a good job at a good price. I've already
written to a company in N.Z. that has a base rate of under $300 NZ + recovery
media (DVD-R, CD-R, blank drive...) I've seen companies ask 400 Eur. and
up to $700 US.
Obviously, I'm not in a hurry now... it's still about 2 months to the first
plane.
Thanks,
-ethan
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Unless anyone is willing to save them (Massachusetts).
Corona Data Systems MT14KS monitor
Taxan 630U 12" monitor
Leading Edge DR-1240 monitor
Okidata microline 292 printer
Okidata microline u84 printer
Data Impact Products D-92 Dot Matrix printer
I can't speak as to the working status of any of these. They are in the
storage shed I am cleaning out and looked to be a little more interesting than
the mounds of generic PC schlock I'm plowing through.
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I have a TRS80 Model 12 that's been upgraded to a 16B (with two 8" slim-line floppies). I am trying to copy some discs but not having much joy.
One theroy is the media is cactus.
The other theory is that following some reading about these machines, because of the size of the drives they tended to get out of alignment regularly. How do I check alignment on the old classics.
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>From: "Fred Cisin" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
>
>> > Jif is a brand of peanut butter.
>www.jif.com
>
>On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Adrian Graham wrote:
>> Heh, is it? That'll confuse any holidaying Brits over there :D
>
>Not half as badly as vacationing Americans who want a sandwich over there!
>
>> Cif (as it's now called) is a cream cleanser for kitchens/bathrooms etc and
>> bits of me think it's ever-so slightly abrasive but I could be remembering
>> wrongly. I thought it had been renamed from Jif for the global market - do
>> you not have Cif over there?
>
>Peanut butter is commonly suggested for cleaning chewing gum
>out of kids' hair and dog fur.
>I wonder how well it would work for cleaning plastic cases?
>
>
>
Hi
Another thing to try that I've used is melted butter.
It seems to work well on removing grim on textured surfaces.
I don't know if margarine will work because I've never
tried it.
Dwight
I have a Commodore 1080 monitor (Amiga branded, non-stereo version) and the
original cardboard box. The box and monitor have matching serial number
stickers. I've saved the box for a while for completeness's sake, but now
I want to get rid of it. Maybe someone has a loose 1080 they want to trade
for a "1080 with original packaging"?
The monitor was working the last time I tried it, and I will test it again
if anyone is interested. The front panel hinge is intact. The box is a little
scuffed/torn but not ripped to shreds. There is a noticeable tear along one
side. I do not have any documentation, cables, styrofoam, bags, etc.
In trade I will accept a working Commodore/Amiga 1080/1084/1902/S/whatever.
I am in the Los Angeles area and am willing to deliver/pick up within a
reasonable radius. I'm willing to ship, but I'll be slow and you'll have to
pay shipping.
OK, so it's a long shot, but is anyone interested?
-- Adam
>From: "Barry Watzman" <Watzman(a)neo.rr.com>
---snip---
>
>The "modern" (about 1981) way was with a digital alignment diskette. This
>was a normal data disk, almost, but various tracks on the diskette were
>either correctly aligned, or intentionally mis-aligned by varying known
>amounts. By seeing which tracks could be read, and which could not, you
>could determine the alignment status of the drive. This was useful for
>checking alignment, but not nearly as good for setting it. SOME of these
>disks ALSO had the analog patter on track 38. You needed the digital
>alignment disk and software that knew what to do with it.
>
---snip---
Hi
This track is created by having two signals recorded a half
track apart. One signal has one extra cycle in it per revolution
of the disk. This makes the cats eye pattern when the two signals
add together in the head.
Another method used was to microstep 5 times across the track
with a tone. The tone centers on the track would be the highest.
If you take my ascii art and lay it on its side, that would be
what u see on a scope:
|
#
#
###
###
#####
#####
###
###
#
#
|
#
#
###
###
#####
#####
###
###
#
#
|
A misaligned track might look like:
|
#
#
###
###
#####
#####
#####
#####
#
#
|
#
#
###
###
#####
#####
#####
#####
#
#
|
This tended to look more blocky than smooth like the cats eye
pattern but didn't require a tone to be exactly one cycle different
per revolution of the disk. One could make there own disk
like this with a micro stepping controller for the stepper
and a micrometer to set the track position relative to the center
of the disk.
Dwight
Hello list,
Anybody can give an authoritative answer as to the difference between a 11/03 and a 11/03-L?
What I can gather is that the 11/03 used a BA11-M/H9270 (4-slots) while the 11/03-L used a BA11-N/H9273 (9-slots).
Another important thing is that the DEC logo is different! :-)
On the 11/03 the font used is the regular lower-case font, while on the 11/03-L the font used looks like uppercase Avant Garde..
/wai-sun
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Help. I rescued a Mac SE, mouse, and keyboard. My problem is it has the 800k low-density diskette drive and a wiped hard drive. I don’t have a Mac compatible drive needed to create the boot disks.
Would anyone have a set of boot disks?
Sincerely and thank you in advance,
David
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I used to work for a company that repaired and
refurbished monitors.
What we used to do was use SoftScrub with bleach on
the yellowed plastics, and once cleaned as best we
could...
Hit the pieces with Armor-All.
That combination did a good job of making the plastic
whiter, and restored a shine to it.
I also think Armor all has chemicals in it that help
protect the plastic from the Sun.
Give that a try...
(I also use spray cleaner with bleach to get into the crevices.)
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I'd like to get it up and running again but I can't get any of the
backups back on a "fresh" ESDI drive (the original died).
--
Have you formatted the drive with the stand-alone formatter?
Dan, I'll forward your message to the Classic Computer Collector
mailing list at http://www.classiccmp.org/cctalk.html . There are
many people there who might be able to help.
- John
At 07:39 AM 8/4/2004, "Dan Chambers" <dchambers(a)shapemastertool.com> wrote:
>To Whom It May Concern:
> I have a PDP-8 that’s down and about all I’m good for is swapping boards. Do you know anything about these systems or do you know anyone who would. I need to get mine repaired.
>Thanks,
>
>
>Dan Chambers
>Technical Support and Tooling Engineer
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Here's what I do:
1.. For stuff in fairly good shape I use Simple Green and a Black and
Decker "Scum Buster" rotary brush that uses the B&D rechargeabe batteries. I
use the soft brush attachment. I usually remove the case and take it out in
the driveway with a hose. If it is really yellowed I use Purple Power this
will remove some , but not all of the yellowing, but it can stain metal so
be careful. Simple Green is safe and works great for dirt and grime.
2.. For magic marker and stickers I use Goo be Gone and elbow grease.
3.. To finish things off I use automobile protectant
Looks alot better after that.
I've come across this adapter in my junk box...
http://www.irrelevant.com/rob/adapter.jpg (37Kb)
It's a 5 pin DIN socket, to an RJ11 + lead with a single large pin with a
slot in it.
I /think/ it was for a Wyse AT computer to allow the use of a standard PC
AT Keyboard, but don't quote me on that.
There is a part number on the moulding of the DIN - 940398-02 REV. A - but
googling shows nothing.
If anybody wants it, it's theirs for free; just cover the postage.
Talking of Wyse ... I have two Wyse 120 terminals, a Wyse 30+, and another
serial terminal I can't remember the brand of - (not a major one, and has
reseller's name on the front) - all free to anybody who wants to come
collect from Salford, UK.
Rob
A friend is seeking information on a DRAM chip found in Nintendo game
carthridges. The ID is:
LH2833-15
SHARP Japan
8652 1D
Does anyone have the data sheet? Looks like 1986ish.
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>Searching around for a PC [or compatible] that NEEDS a Torx................
I have a few Compaq computers that used Torx screws.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I've got a spare MacPlus Case Cracker i'd part with...
Send me a private e-mail if you're interested.
> From: Gene Buckle <geneb(a)deltasoft.com>
> I've got the Torx tool, I need the gadget that's
> used to split the case without destroying it in
> the process.
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RE: Drive Alignment
8" drives are usually pretty stable once aligned, but perhaps not over a
period of decades.
There are two ways to check/set alignment.
The "classical" (mid-70's) way is to use an analog alignment diskette and a
dual-channel oscilloscope. You connect the scope to two channels of the
read head amplifier and seek to the alignment track of the disk (my
recollection is track 38 decimal, the center of the 77-track diskette). You
should see a kind of "filled in dual sine wave". If it's symmetrical or
close, the alignment is correct. If one lobe (every other one) is of
significantly greater amplitude than the lobes in between, you are out of
alignment and you adjust the position of the head to get it right (this part
varies from drive to drive). Then you have to check some other things, like
the track 0 sensor and track 0 phase (on some drives). You need the analogy
alignment disk, a scope and an "exerciser", or a computer with software that
could let you manually seek and load the head as desired.
The "modern" (about 1981) way was with a digital alignment diskette. This
was a normal data disk, almost, but various tracks on the diskette were
either correctly aligned, or intentionally mis-aligned by varying known
amounts. By seeing which tracks could be read, and which could not, you
could determine the alignment status of the drive. This was useful for
checking alignment, but not nearly as good for setting it. SOME of these
disks ALSO had the analog patter on track 38. You needed the digital
alignment disk and software that knew what to do with it.
The problem today is that the alignment disks (of either type) are not
readily available, and most PC hobbyists don't have a scope. Documentation,
knowledge and experience are also issues.
Hiya,
has anyone got a early copy of the SCSI spec which just covers SCSI 1
(i.e. 8bit bus, 5Mb/s transfers only)?
I want to see if I can get the parallel port on a modern PC hooked up to
one of the old SCSI/ST506 bridge boards that I have, but given that I
only have 12 data out lines to play with and 5 data in (13 in if I
assume a bidirectional port) things are pretty tight and I obviously
need to do some loading of stuff into external registers.
I've got some reasonable info on the SCSI protocol, but having a better
idea of which signals do what (and at what time) would be useful.
All the docs out on the web seem to be for the latest SCSI revision
though (and therefore contain a lot of info that I don't need).
Furthermore I only really need the low-level protocol now;
software-driven higher level command structure can wait for a few days!
cheers
Jules
I have available for those who want them, 3 CDC disk drives (model
NSOMPI) with 8 80Mb disk packs.
Each drive is approx 8 inch by 10 inch by 27 inch in size and they
have an SMD interface. 6 of the packs are brown, 2 are blue.
Ed
P.S. the drives are in The Netherlands, shipping is possible, but
it would not be cheap!.
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Unix Lives! M$ Windows is crap.
'97 TL1000S
Here?s a question for you guys. One of my HP2000 friends asked me
what the difference was between a 2100a and a 2100s. Now, I have
done a fair amount of maintenance on both and I can?t recall that
I ever paid any attention to any difference between the two.
Does anyone know of any differences between the two other than the
name on the front plate?
Thanks,
Mike Gemeny
I was given a PDP-11/04 recently, in the short 5 1/4" chassis, but it is missing its power supply. Looks like it was removed to use as a replacement for another 11/04. Does anybody have one they don't need? Anybody even know what kind of power supply goes in a 11/04 in the short chassis??
Thanks,
Bob Armstrong
Need some help making a disk bootable under RSX11M V4.6 (not Plus).
Need to copy a bootable system volume to another.
Usually I use standalone BRU with no problem.
Problem (I think) is that I have 2 MSCP controllers,
one drive on one controller, other drive on the other controller
and their low level formats aren't compatible so can't swap drives around.
Unfortunately I have no working tape drive at the moment either.
(I do have 5 TK50's with tapes hanging out their mouths though).
Dragged out a Cipher 550 cartridge tape drive, plugged in MSV05 controller
(MS:),
bought some new DC600A tapes after the ones I had in the attic for 10 years
didn't work,
but it didn't work either.
Disk and controller configuration is:
An Emulex QD01 controller CSR=172150 Vec=154 (Standard MSCP address)
with an RD54 as DU1:
This is the system disk and it hardware boots fine into M.
And a RQDX3 CSR=172154 Vec=150 (Secondary)
with an RD32 that shows up as DU4: under M.
I can BAD it, INI it, MOU it etc. -- drive works fine.
Using standalone BRU to copy DU1: to DU4:
it gives error -65 (device offline - it can't see it) for DU4:
Ok, I use CNF to change DU4: to alternate CSR,
it give me error -65 on DU1:
Apparantly CNF changes DU CSR for both drives.
(I did find I could make standalone BRU bootable RX33's though which I did
as they boot much faster than TK50.)
So, standalone BRU not working as I wanted,
I made the RD32 DU4: drive a Files11 volume (BAD, INI etc.)
Created all the UFD's from DU1: (system disk) on DU4: (target).
(Still haven't found anything better than TECO for making command files
>from directory listings,
have a PC version of TECO I use today)
I then copied all the files to the target disk:
BRU/NOI/MOU DU1: DU4:
Worked fine. I can mount DU4: and look at all the files fine.
But, how do I make DU4: bootable as DU0: on an RQDX3 at standard address of
172150??
VMR and SAV only seem to work on the current SYSTEM disk, not a target.
For example, tried to VMR DU4:[1,54]RSX11M.SYS --- no joy.
When I try to boot the DU4: on another system, it give me what INI wrote in
the boot block:
"THIS VOLUME DOES NOT CONTAIN A HARDWARE BOOTABLE SYSTEM"
Any suggestions on how to make DU4: bootable?
Best I could find Googling was:
http://www.miim.com/faq/hardware/diskfaq.html#mscrscpy
But I don't see how that effects a drive other than SY:
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ed Kelleher
This message is for Steve Loboyko,
Steve,
Please give me a call at your earliest convenience.
THANKS!
John Calvert
502-240-6100 ext.107
502-718-1224 cell
Spotted yesterday at RE-PC Tukwila: A nice DEC MicroPDP-11/23 in a four-foot rack, along with two tape drives of a type I've never seen before (definitely DEC'ish, they look like they take a smallish cartridge). Also had what looked like a third-party 16-port serial MUX installed, probably an Emulex or similar board.
No price on the thing, but probably available for cheap.
RE-PC is at 510 Andover Park West, at the opposite end of the complex from the UPS customer counter.
Keep the peace(es).
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Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com
kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?"
This problem has been fixed, thanks for suggestion from Tony of the UK.
-Bill
>Do you mean you get thje CASS? prompt when you turn the machine on
>without holding BREAK down?
>If so, then the machine is not detecting the disk controller (that's why
>it's not trying to read the disk). I'd check the tapewire that links the
>CPU board to the disk controller board (I've had a lot of problems with
>this cable!), then check the signals round the WD1793 chip.
>-tony
>
> Looking for diagnosis or URL with troubleshooting guide:
> TRS 80 Model III with two mini drives.
> Powers up, drives spin and do not stop.
> Does not attempt read, no red drive light.
> Cass? and Memory Size? Ok
I recently aquired an HP 9133XV combination 3.5" floppy and 15M HD with an
HPIB interface and Amigo protocol.
I tried to use the drive with an HP 86B and an HP 85B computer. The floppy
works fine but the computer will not recognize the hard drive. The HD seems
to spin up normally.
I tried an "INITIALIZE" command without success.
Can the series 80 computers use this large drive? Does anyone know how to
use the test function on the drive?
Thanks
AFAIK spreadsheets are a fairly old engineering practice, originally done
manually on paper and slowly ported to automation and computers. What about
the old accounting machines, they are sort of spreadsheets.
Just got a Facit N4000 unit. Looking for DOS based PC software to read &
store images, etc.
Can anyone point me to any freeware/shareware that they find works well with
such units?
Regards,
Jay West
Don't think I posted this stuff to the list before, if I have, my apologies.
But when you have CRS syndrome.... For some of the ones listed below, I have
like 30 copies (all originals) of the manuals. For others I only have one
original copy. Some of these are off-the-beaten-path manuals and quite cool.
Micro-Term Mime I & II
Micro-Term 420
Micro-Term 5A
Micro-Term Ergo 2000
Micro-Term ACT IV
Micro-Term Mime 340
Micro-Term 2A (which does Soroc IQ120 emulation - cool, and I have the
terminal :)
Mini Bee IV
Some of the manuals above are operating guides, some are programming guides,
some are service/technical manuals.
I actually have a Micro-Term ACT 5, very cute terminal.... and a 2A. I would
VERY much like to find a Mime I, and maybe a Mime II.
Anyways - thought I'd list the manuals in case someone is desperately
looking for any of them.
Regards,
Jay West
Help! I've been trying to recreate an 8" floppy from the Altos Diagnostic
disk .tdo file recently added to the Commercial CP/M Software Archive site
(http://www.retroarchive.org/cpm/) so I can try to diagnose a hard drive
problem on my ACS8000-10A, and have so far been unsuccessful. I've been
using a Shugart 800 8" drive connected to a PC/AT floppy controller with a
34-to-50 pin adapter, and have been wearing myself out with Teledisk,
Anadisk and 22Disk for the last few days with no luck. I think I've got the
adapter pinned correctly since I'm able to use certain functions OK, but not
make that disk. When I try to use Teledisk, it tells me the .tdo source was
a 3.5" high-density FM formatted disk (?), and when it tries to write out to
the new disk, it comes up unable to find any of the sectors.
Has anyone out there been able to do this, or know of another source for the
Altos Diagnostic disk that has the hard drive utility?
Thanks,
Richard Lynch
Ok, I am at it again...
Powering up the "really nice" ASR-33 that I pickjed up last weekend. After
checking thing out [voltages mechanical inspection, etc] I have powered it
up.
[F4 the fuse for the motor WAS blown, a replacement of the ssame rating is
holding].
Motor spins up nicely (real quiet and sweet!), with the mode set to local,
the break and here-is keys do the "right things", however NONE of the other
keys do. My first thought was an issue with the keyboard unit, but a swap
>from my other (dirty, smashed case, etc) unit yields the same results. My
next thought was the distributor [since checking the schematic shows that
the break key does NOT require the distributor connectivty]....
Powered down, disassembled to look at the brushes, they look brand new [cant
wait till I get to post some pictures of this baby!!!!].
Every thing also seems to buzz out as I would expect.
This indicates that the failure mode might well (once again) be me......
Hopefully someone here will think of something I am missing.....
A reply e-mail would be appreciated, a call bfrom anyone with an idea and a
few minutes would be great! [If it is long distance, I can call anyone
willing to help].
My weekend will be some mich better if I get this working and buttoned up
tonight [It's so cleen that it is even scheduled to go in the living space
rather than my lab when buttoned up and working!
Thanks in advance.
David Corbin
Sayville, NY
631-244-8487
dvcorbin(a)optonline.net
>From: "David V. Corbin" <dvcorbin(a)optonline.net>
---snip---
>
>That of course will involve replacing the h-plate later...Oh well...
>It only took me about two weeks to get the other one [on the other unit]
>in....
>
Hi David
Once you've fine the right size of flat bladed screwdriver
to jam into the slot of the H-plate, you'll see that it is
actually quite easy. One should be able to do is in just a
few seconds. You do need to manually reset both sides to
be in the same state so the angles are the same.
Dwight
Is there a competent X-Windows programmer in the house? The folks at
XGameStation need to port their graphical IDE to a Linux environment. I
don't have many more details but if you are interested in learning more
then please e-mail me and I'll forward you to the appropriate party.
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I just landed hands on a Mac SE. It is currently running system 6, I
only have a bout 2mb of memory
and a 20mb hard drive. I even have an imagewriter to go with it!! :^)
Will system 7 run ok on this machine?
Where's the best place to download software stuff for system 6 and
system 7?
Anyone have a copy of "macintosh basic" they can spare?
Thank you folks, I have accepted Al Kossow's offer of reading
our two DECtapes which are here in America (and I'm keeping Hans
Pufal in my back pocket in case any more tapes turn up in
Scotland. Fortunately I have big pockets.)
Graham
>From: "David V. Corbin" <dvcorbin(a)optonline.net>
>
>>>>
>>>> If pressing a key doesn't cause the distributor to spin,
>>>> then there's a mechanical problem. You want to investigate
>>>> the linkage that starts at the ekyboard (the metal strip
>>>> that the H-plate slots into should turn counterclockwise
>>>> seen from the left side when you press a key, and is
>>>> returned to the clcokwise position by the H-plate). Then
>>>> trace the linkage via the H-plate to the clutch at the
>>>> back. This should engage when the key is pressed.
>>>>
>
>I always get turned around with spacial relationships in the written
>word.....
>
>Comparing the linkage position to the one on my working unit. It is indeed
>in the "deactivated" position and does NOT move when a key is pressed [as a
>clarication, the "far" ent of the linkage extends through a slot on the
>front of the keyboard assembly. On the working unit, qhen no key is pressed,
>the end is down, it travels up when the key is pressed and returns down
>when the typing unit finishes its cycle. On the new unit this end is always
>in the down position].
>
>Attempting to move the linkage (but not overly forcing it] is futile.
>
>Visual inspection of the path [at least what I can see without moving the
>typing unit out of the chassis bay], does not reveal anything. Are there any
>typical binding points? Should I be thinking about a seized clutch?
>
>David.
>
>
Hi David
This could have been the cause of the fuse blowing. A jammed
keyboard reset linkage might have frozen up the clutch causing
the motor to stall. You should remove the print assembly and
find the cause of the linkage to jam. The clutch may already
be toast. If it is not in the locked up state when you turn
the motor on, it would have to be slipping ( not good ).
Find the linkage problem. You may have to remove the print
assembly because the linkage goes under this part.
Dwight
>From: "Antonio Carlini" <a.carlini(a)ntlworld.com>
>
>>Bizarre. Ebay does not allow me to see that item. It says "due to
>>restrictions in your home country" which is utter nonsense. It's
>>possible that the UK has export restrictions, but that's not what it
>>said...
>
>Don't you think it's more likely that the Dept. Of Homeland
>Security is responsible ... after all, they can't be sure
>that you're not a terrorist :-)
>
>As for UK export restrictions, who knows? The seller
>seems to be willing to ship world-wide!
>
>Antonio
>
>
Hi
I'm in the US and have no problem looking at it??
Dwight
At 07:52 AM 8/20/04 -0700, you wrote:
>> Thanks, but I don't have the required long torx screwdriver and case
>> cracker
>
>That reminds me - where can I find such a tool? I've got a pair of dead
>Macs I'd like to open up and try to repair.
>
>tnx.
The long torx screwdriver should be available from any good tool shop,
though for the longest time I used one made from the tip of a too short
torx screwdriver welded to shaft of another screwdriver. I've never seen a
case cracker, but I'm not sure why you'd need one. Every compact mac I've
opened has came apart easily once the screws were removed.
On my ASR-33 Looks like it may be a bad transistor in the receive
circuit....
Basis for conclusion:
1) switching keyboard units has no effect.
2) disconnecting reader unit has no effect
3) R7 on receive control bord is HOT (to the touch)
4) Selector magnet appears always engaged.
5) Unit does NOT space-out when put in line mode.
Now to just find a source for the proper replacement transistors.......
David
>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
>
>They have a *very* well done restoration page. Cool project! However, I
>don't believe their claim to have the only original Alto left in existence
>is accurate.
Hi
I was just wondering. What people on this list consider their
rarest computers in their collections. Here is my list
1. Nicolet 80 ( 20 bit mini with core. working condition. Only know
of 2 others. I doubt there are more than 10 left
anywhere. )
2. SIM-4 4004 development system ( most likely fewer than 30 left. Running.
I only know of 2 others. )
3. Olivetti M-20 ( Few in the US but maybe a couple hundred in Europe.
Z8000 processor. Runs )
4. Jupiter Ace ( Several hundred most likely exist but unusual in that
it had Forth in ROM. Runs )
5. NC4000 Delta Board ( Most likely only 100 around but most have no
idea as to the collectable nature. These might be
found in embedded system. These are unique in that they
have the Forth processor on them that was designed by
NOVIX and Chuck Moore. A 4 Mhz processor could run rings
around a 33MHz 80386 of its time. Things like sorting
1000 integers in 19.2ms )
Dwight
Some time back our project (the Edinburgh Computer History
project) organised a trip to Grenoble to meet Hans Pufal and
read a box of DECtapes on his PDP9. Since then we've had
a few more tapes turn up and I have a couple of them over
here in the states. Is there anyone over here who would
be willing to read them for us please?
We have code to decode the contents; we just need a raw dump
of the blocks. I have one which I can mail any time as a
test (some old Fortran code, not very historically
significant) and if all goes well I will be getting a
second one soon from one of our group members which
does have some significant code on it that we'd very
much like to recover.
Drop me a line - gtoal(a)gtoal.com - if you can help.
(If you reply here, I'm not being rude by not replying
immediately - I read this group in digest format so I
get it a day late)
Thanks
Graham
***needed: Auerbach books, reports and journals especially. the early ones. Also any early data processing journals and information. reply off list to me directly please.
Thanks Ed Sharpe, Archivist for SMECC - - See the Museum's Web Site at www.smecc.org
Coury House / SMECC
5802 W. Palmaire Ave. Phone 623-435-1522
Glendale Az 85301 USA
I don't know of a place in LA, but for anyone who's interested, I keep an "On
the road: Where to see old computers" directory at the web site for the
Computer Collector E-mail Newsletter. The site is
http://news.computercollector.com.
- Evan
The VT220 pocket guide has been claimed.
Thanks to those who responded.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com
kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?"
For a grant I'm trying to get for the museum I need help in locating
Knight-Ridder newspapers in the US and around the world that carried an
article back in March 2000 about my collecting computers. The article was
titled "collecting the classics" and was in the St. Paul (MN) Pioneer Press
back on Monday March 13, 2000. Some of you remarked that your local paper
carried the story also. If anyone remembers seeing it please email me the
name of your local paper so that I can contact them. I need 3 US papers and
1 international paper. Thanks
Does anyone happen to have a current email address for Kirk Davis?
The one he had a few months ago no longer works.
Zane
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I'm also looking for a spare set of 11/34 boards. Anyone got an
11/34 they wanna part out or find a good home for? My console
board (M7859) is misbehaving and I need to find a good one.
Contact me off list if you have anything of interest.
Ashley
Does anyone on the list have any docs on the Heathkit ID-5001
weatherstation? I'm especially interested in schematics for the PSU
board (I have no backlight, and one of the transistors gets _really_
hot), and the RS-232 command set. I've been googling for a while, and
I've found a couple of interesting sites (like the one that sells
aftermarket temp sensors to substitute for the LM3911 that the station
comes with), but no abundant source of info.
Thanks for any tips,
-ethan
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I found a DEC MS02 8MB DIMM today that I grabbed for the hell of it.
I'm not sure what system it's for (probably some manner of VAX) but I
probably don't need it.
If anyone can use it, PayPal me $10 (includes shipping) and it's yours.
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The manual set has been claimed.
Thanks to all who responded . . .
Jeff
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 18:38:41 -0700 jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com writes:
>
> I think this is a complete Turbo Pascal Manual Set for ver 7.0:
>
> Programmers Reference
> Language Guide
> User's Guide
> TurboVision Programming Guide
>
> If you need the floppies also, ask.
>
> This one is free plus postage, will be tossed if no takers.
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
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They've been claimed, thanks for responding!
Jeff
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:44:02 -0500 Kevin Monceaux <Kevin(a)rawfeddogs.net>
writes:
> Jeff,
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 06:38:41PM -0700, jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com
> wrote:
> >
> > I think this is a complete Turbo Pascal Manual Set for ver 7.0:
> >
> > Programmers Reference
> > Language Guide
> > User's Guide
> > TurboVision Programming Guide
> >
> > If you need the floppies also, ask.
> >
> > This one is free plus postage, will be tossed if no takers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff
>
> I'll give the set a home, floppies and all. I haven't done anything
> with
> Turbo Pascal in years but was quite fond of it at one time, back
> when I was
> learning Pascal on a VAX 11/750. The programming class allowed
> students to
> write their programs in the computer lab on the VAX or at home with
> Turbo
> Pascal. I did some on the VAX and some at home. Ah, the memories.
> I'd
> hate to see it get tossed.
>
>
> Kevin
> http://www.RawFedDogs.net
>
>
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We were trying to find out why the left half of our PDP 11/84's
backplane is dead earlier. Seems like it's not getting any power at all
supplied to it.
The system's got two power supplies in it - an H7202-KA which runs the
right (working) side of the backplane, and an H7202-KB which runs the
left side (and seems to be dead)
Now, the left hand power supply is fed AC from a cable that plugs into a
large mains filter on the left side of the cabinet, halfway up and
midway between front and back of the chassis. AC is getting as far as
the PSU, but there's nothing on the +5V output.
There seem to be no fuses in the PSU itself, and no obvious sign of
problem. Initial questions:
1) It seems that AC input is always available to the PSU with the power
switches on though, so the PSU must be started via a signal over the
ribbon cable that plugs into the PSU?
2) As well as AC input to the left hand PSU, there's also a pair of
wires (yellow and green) which terminate in a plug up by the mains
filter. There's nothing which obviously plugs into this - any ideas what
it does?
3) What's the difference between the two supply types? The rightmost one
is identical to the left, but with the addition of a second vertical
board inside, and also runs the blower fan at the front of the machine.
Is it just that it provides voltages other than +5V to the system?
It's possible that we can source another supply in the near future, but
I'm not yet convinced that the supply is actually dead - has anyone got
a list of what the various lines connected to the supply actually do?
cheers,
Jules
From: Christian Corti <cc(a)corti-net.de>
>
>You can't change the microcode of the PALM processor. That would be like
>changing the microcode of e.g. a MC68000.
>
Actually....you can do that.
The IBM {PC,XT,AT}/370 card(s) (ISA-bus card that put a "baby" IBM S/370 on
your desktop) had a CPU that was a re-microcoded 68000 (emulating some
subset of the IBM S/370 mainframe instruction set). IBM licensed the
architecture from Motorola. Probably got familiar with it building the IBM
9000 Instruments System.
That, of course, doesn't mean you could do it on a PALM.
Ken
I think this is a complete Turbo Pascal Manual Set for ver 7.0:
Programmers Reference
Language Guide
User's Guide
TurboVision Programming Guide
If you need the floppies also, ask.
This one is free plus postage, will be tossed if no takers.
Jeff
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Does anyone out there have any mounting rails for a DEC RL02 or RL01 drive?
I have two good RL02 drives that I want to rack, but they are missing both
the rails that go in the rack and on the drives.
If anyone has rails they want to get rid of, please contact me off-list.
Thanks,
Ashley
The DEC books have been claimed. Thank you for your attention . . . .
Jeff
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 18:27:03 -0700 jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com writes:
>
> Once again, I would favour takers for the whole lot, but would
> consider splitting them up if no one wants all of them . . .
> I can ship book rate to US addresses.
>
> These titles are all published by |d|i|g|i|t|a|l|
>
> Guide to DECthreads, Nov. 1996
> VAX MACRO and Instruction Set Reference Manual, May 1993
> OpenVMS EDT Reference Manual, May 1993
> Guide to Managing Pathworks Licenses, Feb. 1995
> Pathworks Ver. 5.1 Migration Guide, Aug 1994
> DECwindows Motif Ver. 1.2-4 for OpenVMS Installation Guide, Apr.
> 1996
> Pathworks for OpenVMS (NetWare) Server Admin Guide, Feb. 1995
> DEC C Language Reference Manual, Nov 1995
> DEC C Run-Time Library Reference Manual for OpenVMS, Nov. 1995
> DEC C User's Guide for OpenVMS Systems, Nov. 1996
>
> Asking $10 (plus postage) for the lot. If no takers, they get
> turned into litterbox filler . . . .
>
> Jeff
>
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I seem to have misplaced my docs for this card, and my cable came apart so
it needs to be rebuilt.
Can't find it on bitsavers... does anyone have the docs in pdf for this
card?
Thanks!
Jay West
>Thanks, but I don't have the required long torx screwdriver and case
>cracker
>tool, and I am a little scared to crack open the case, mean evil nasty
>high voltages live
>in there. Besides I might bust something inside and that would be bad.
Screw driver, as others have mentioned can be bought at Sears. Case
cracker you can also get at Sears. Buy a smallish spring wood clamp, then
remove the rubber protective tips. The blade tips will then fit into the
case crack, squeeze the clamp, and it pops the case open.
Or you can do the Shake and Bounce method of loosening the case... but I
don't recommend that. If you have to do a forceful method, do the light
tapping around the edges method (or just pick up the dang clamp when
buying your screwdriver!)
As for the voltages, there isn't anything readily accidentally touched
inside. The Analog Board (the one with the lethal power), is mounted in
such a way that you can't accidentally touch the inside of it. You have
to try to reach in and do it. And the back side of the board (that you
can accidentally touch) is covered with an insulating sheet, so you can
touch away and nothing will happen.
HOWEVER, removal of the logic board, so you can upgrade the RAM, can lead
you to needing to reach into the lethal zone. The board was designed to
slide about 1/2 inch and then release from one side of the cage, letting
you tip the board out and then disconnect the power, floppy, hard drive
(if there is one) and sound. However, I've yet to run into an SE that the
cables are really long enough to let you do that with any ease. It has
always been MUCH easier to reach under the CRT, and disconnect all but
the sound while the logic board is still in place in the cage. THEN
remove it from the cage and disconnect the sound.
So there is a little bit of "danger", but it isn't anything to really
worry too much about. I'd be happy to supply you with a PDF of the take
apart manual along with the SIMMs if you wanted.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Once again, I would favour takers for the whole lot, but would
consider splitting them up if no one wants all of them . . .
I can ship book rate to US addresses.
These titles are all published by |d|i|g|i|t|a|l|
Guide to DECthreads, Nov. 1996
VAX MACRO and Instruction Set Reference Manual, May 1993
OpenVMS EDT Reference Manual, May 1993
Guide to Managing Pathworks Licenses, Feb. 1995
Pathworks Ver. 5.1 Migration Guide, Aug 1994
DECwindows Motif Ver. 1.2-4 for OpenVMS Installation Guide, Apr. 1996
Pathworks for OpenVMS (NetWare) Server Admin Guide, Feb. 1995
DEC C Language Reference Manual, Nov 1995
DEC C Run-Time Library Reference Manual for OpenVMS, Nov. 1995
DEC C User's Guide for OpenVMS Systems, Nov. 1996
Asking $10 (plus postage) for the lot. If no takers, they get
turned into litterbox filler . . . .
Jeff
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"RHahm" <rhahm(a)nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> I recently aquired an HP 9133XV combination 3.5" floppy and 15M HD with an
> HPIB interface and Amigo protocol.
>
> I tried to use the drive with an HP 86B and an HP 85B computer. The floppy
> works fine but the computer will not recognize the hard drive. The HD seems
> to spin up normally.
Do you have the option 010 for your 9133XV. The HP product catalog
implies that only opt 010 works with the Series 80.
In general Series 80 computers cannot really deal with a hard drive.
They only know about floppies, and since they have only one-level
directories, there is little to be gained from large capacity hard
drives. So HP cheated. Since (at that time) hard drives were small (5
to 10 Mb), they provided special firmware on the hard drive to create 4
hard partitions, each the size of the largest floppy drive recognized
by the Series 80. So the HP 9133A 4.6 Mb hard drive is split into 4
1.2Mb volumes.
However for late Series 80 models, HP did something else as well.
An intriguing note in the HP catalog says:
> The HP 9133B and the HP9134B are single volume 9.6M byte Winchesters
> which can operate with the HP-85B or the HP-86B; they can also operate
> with an HP-86A or HP-87 when used with an 00087-15012 Electronic Disc
> ROM and ROM drawer. 9.6M byte Winchesters are supported under native
> mode.
What the ^%@#$@ does this mean? Does the Electronic Disc ROM contain code
to soft partition a 9.6Mb volume? I do have an Electronic Disc ROM for
my 87XM, but I have neither the documentation nor a suitable Winchester.
Any clues are welcome.
**vp
Hi
It is more likely that his service includes other countries
that restrict encription machines. I don't think the US restricts
looking at encription machines.
Dwight
>From: "Antonio Carlini" <a.carlini(a)ntlworld.com>
>
>> I'm in the US and have no problem looking at it??
>> Dwight
>
>They have limited resources so obviously they cannot
>implement everything over night. Stage one blocks
>and monitors people with funny foreign names ...
>you're probably stage two (that's people who
>miss smileys and so can't be that suspicious :-)).
>
>FWIW If I log on to one of the work machines that
>lives in the US I can see the auction from there
>too - so maybe Paul really is being watched :-)
>
>Antonio
>
>--
>
>---------------
>
>Antonio Carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org
>
>
>
On Aug 20 2004, 9:38, bips wrote:
> I have an Exidy with S-100 and floppy drives. I have missed placed
my
> floppy
> disks. They had CP/M, an editor, assembler compiler, and utilities.
I would
> be very interested in obtaining a copy of same. My floppies were
5.25,
> single sided, 97K. John
It's good to hear from another Sorcerer owner, but unfortunately, I
don't have disks for mine, so I can't help. Sorry...
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi
From the picture I'm looking at, it has 10 wheels or rotors.
This is not a WW2 unit.
What country are you in?
Dwight
>From: "Paul Koning" <pkoning(a)equallogic.com>
>
>>>>>> "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Thomas <geoffreythomas(a)onetel.com> writes:
>
> Geoffrey> Is this the real thing ?
> Geoffrey>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3284&item=22629569…
=1
>
>Bizarre. Ebay does not allow me to see that item. It says "due to
>restrictions in your home country" which is utter nonsense. It's
>possible that the UK has export restrictions, but that's not what it
>said...
>
>>>>>> "Dwight" == Dwight K Elvey <dwight.elvey(a)amd.com> writes:
>
> Dwight> Hi This is not a WW2 machine. This was made many years after
> Dwight> that. It is an Enigma design with more wheels than the ones
> Dwight> the Germans used. It is a ridiculous price for a later
> Dwight> machine, regardless of condition. It is most likely military
> Dwight> surplus but not WW2.
>
>What does it actually show? Standard Enigmas have 3 wheels, but a few
>had four, so if it's a four wheel unit it's a possibility that it
>could be a WW2 unit.
>
> paul
>
>
Hi
If you look closely, you'll notice that it has many more wheels
( rotors ) than three or four. It is a later machine.
Dwight
>From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk>
>
>On Fri, 2004-08-20 at 18:57, Geoffrey Thomas wrote:
>> Is this the real thing ?
>
>Not a German Enigma, no. (e.g.:
>http://web.syr.edu/~nrsmit01/webquest/enigma.jpg), but real in the sense
>that it is an Enigma :)
>
>I can't see an equivalent to the plugboard that the German machines
>have, so it's presumably a much simpler device.
>
>German 3-rotor Enigma machines are actually pretty common, or so I'm
>told - I suppose they just normally appear in traditional auction houses
>rather than on ebay.
>
>That ebay one seems like quite a high price. I'm not sure if that's
>because it's a) Swiss rather than German, b) in extremely good condition
>or c) because it's on ebay. I suspect the latter...
>
>cheers
>
>Jules
>
>
Hi
This is not a WW2 machine. This was made many years
after that. It is an Enigma design with more wheels
than the ones the Germans used. It is a ridiculous
price for a later machine, regardless of condition.
It is most likely military surplus but not WW2.
Dwight
>From: "Geoffrey Thomas" <geoffreythomas(a)onetel.com>
>
>Is this the real thing ?
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3284&item=226295693
>8&rd=1
>
>Anyone with deep pockets ?
>
>Geoff.
>
>
>Perhaps the danger is not as bas as I make it out to be, but, and I
>know you probably
>did not know this, I am jobless right now.. If I do break anything I
>can't afford to
>replace it. That and the fact that the machine seems to run really
>well on OS 6
>and I have found many fun things on the net that also run on OS6.
I fully understand your reluctance. I can say that if you decide to try
it, and you break something, it should be fairly trivial to track down
another SE for free (I for one have a half dozen I don't need, and I'm
sure Sellam has a half dozen pallets of them!)
But I still understand.
>I'll try installing the OS7 I'll be getting soon - but perhaps it won't
>work, so
>back to OS 6. no problem.
OS 7 will probably not even boot with only 2 MB of ram. I think the
MINIMUM you will get it to boot with is 2.5 (which you may actually have,
it was very common to go to 2.5 instead of 2, because you just left two
of the 256k simms in place when adding two 1 MB ones). However, even at
2.5 MB, System 7 will be almost unusable. 4 MB really is the minimum you
can get away with.
But honestly, if you can find fun things to do with System 6 (and there
are tons), then stick with it. It will run MUCH faster, and be MUCH more
stable on an SE then System 7 will be no matter how much RAM you can cram
in there.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>I do have the 1.44 built in diskette drive.
>
>Did the APPLE II 3.5 work with this machine too? I have heard that
>if you plug in the 5.25 you will burn out your floppy controller.
The 1.44 drive will read and write Apple ProDos 3.5" floppies.
As for plugging in an Apple II drive into the floppy port on the Mac,
don't do it unless you are sure the drive is one compatible with the mac.
Most of the A2 drives were not, even though they had the same connector.
They could damage the Mac. There were however some that were compatible
with the Mac. I know there was a 3.5" drive that worked with the Mac or
the A2, and I think there may have also been a 5.25" drive that worked
with both (not counting the one for the A2e card that plugged into the
card's adaptor cable).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>I've got the Torx tool, I need the gadget that's used to split the case
>without destroying it in the process.
A spring wood clamp without the protective rubber tips works very well.
(the kind that looks like a giant metal clothes pin).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>Personaly I suggests the swiss army knife with the extended toolste.
>beats every leatherman, has exchangeable bits and fits still in (my)
>pocket :)
>
>http://www.victorinox.de/newsite/de/produkte/produktdetails//1-7725-T/funk
>tionen.htm
>
>(tons of Java and whatever included :( )
Wow COOL!
I might have to finally upgrade my current Victorinox (the one I have is
very similar to the one pictured, it just doesn't have the extra socketed
tips)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
hi,
i hv an old 8088 comp, of i guess a hitachi make. the
monochrome monitor that came with it isn't workin. but
the power supply is in good condition.
how do i check if the system is in working order.
anyways where can i find info on manual bootstrapping.
urs,
subs
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>Apple still has system 6 and 7 on their website if
>you need it but getting system software from the net onto 400k floppies is
>not easy if you don't have an old Mac already.
Apple has 6.0.8 and 7.5.3 and the 7.5.5 updater available as free
downloads. They do not have previous versions of System 6 or 7, nor later
versions of any OS revision.
That's actually OK, as performance wise, there is little difference on an
SE between System 7.5.5 and System 7.0 or 7.1. And .5.5 is more stable
and has better networking support, so there is really no reason to run a
previous version of System 7.
Same can be said for System 6.0.8 and previous versions. There is really
no reason NOT to run .8 so there should be no worries about lacking
earlier versions.
And although your comment about getting them onto floppies still holds
true, it is worth correcting that the SE uses 800K drives at the minimum.
Some of the SEs uses 1.44 drives. The best way to know is to look at the
front of the case. If it says either SuperDrive or FDHD, it is using 1.44
drives. If it just says SE, it is probably an 800k drive (also the back
label will likely tell you).
Hopefully this persons is a 1.44 drive, so they at least have a half a
shot at creating the disks on another computer. If they are in fact 800k
drives, that could prove a challenge almost as much as 400k. Later Macs
can't read/write 800k disks as well as the 400k, and PCs I don't think
can do 400 or 800 at all. (I think there are ways to get PCs to write the
1.44 disks however, and at least those are readily doable by any newer
Mac with a floppy drive).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
On Jul 28, 12:11, Joe R. wrote:
> The problem is that AFIK no one has found ANY CD disks that are
> reliable. Several people that have been interviewed in national
> publications explictly pointed out that they bought top quality disks
but
> they were still unreliable. In fact, it didn't appear that there was
much
> difference between the cheap ones and the expensive ones.
The other day I came across a table from a report showing the relative
longevity of data on various media (DLT, CD-R, etc) at a variety of
temperatures and humidities. I'll try and find it again and post some
of the results. Some of you might be shocked. For example, a CD-R
with an expected lifetime of something like 25 years (if I'm not
misremembering the highest figure) under ideal conditions has a
lifetime of only several *months* at higher temperatures (upper 20s C,
that would be 80s F) and humidity. DLTs fared much much better.
I have some CDs that were bought about 8 years ago because they were
supposedly good quality, and burned in a highly-rated burner. Out of
the first batch of ten, 4 are now unreadable or give multiple errors.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York