- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by ohh＠drizzle.com

Okay, I admit it: There are many, many things I don't know. :) And one of those things came up in a conversation today, and sheer curiosity leads me to ask: What, exactly, is a resonant transformer? The subject came up here about a month or so back - I think it was in reference to a DEC PDP-8/E power supply, but that could be a mistake - and a look through Google seemed to only bring me sites about Tesla coils, which was interesting but didn't really shed light on the subject. So I'm still curious. :) What does a resonant transformer do that a conventional one does not? Does it have usefulness outside of Tesla coils? What would it be doing in an 8/E (or whatever machine it was that was being discussed at the time)? Any enlightenment appreciated. :) -O.-

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Norsk Data Nord-10/S restoration effort on the way!

by toresbe＠ifi.uio.no

Allright, so I'm going to the movie theatres to watch Fahrenheit 9/11 (this was probably about two months ago). The movie theatre I pick also happens to have a conference centre at the lower floors. I'm bored, the movie doesn't start for 40 minutes, so I go down and behold the exhibit I hadn't looked at since sixth grade or something. The conference center, as the exhibit, is owned by Storebrand, a major insurance company here in Norway. (Storebrand literally means "Big fire", hee hee) And the exhibit is full of cool old office hardware (old IBM dictaphones, mechanical cardpunches/sorters, etc). And amongst one of the cards, I see a COBOL card - PICTURE XX99. Ah ha! The smell of opportunity! And old punch card paper! (*sniff* Ahhh...) I call around, and finally end up talking to a man named Dag Wold, who is the archivist and historian at Storebrand, and he explained that he was a retired insurance worker that kept tabs on the archive's inventory. So, finally, I get to come over and look. And what a sight! Apart from a metric buttload of cool old mechanical stuff and dictaphones and stuff, a cool IBM 3270 terminal (I think I'm gonna start a thread on that too :), a VT102 (what was the 2 for, again?), and a nice TI mini I tried but failed to boot (The floppy I tried probably wasn't the boot floppy), and some other cool stuff I really should take pictures of, the crown jewel of the collection was definately (IMO :) a NORD-10/S minicomputer with a 9-track Pertec rebrand tape drive. /S means "With various enhancements, like cache" in Norwegian. Terse language, you see. :P It's in excellent cosmetic condition. I powered it up, and everything seemed to be working, but seeing how I don't know the first thing about pretty much anything from Norsk Data, "working" means "didn't burst into flames" :) Enter Johnny Oddene, the webmaster of sintran.com, ex-Norsk Data-employee, hobbyist, and owner of what was left of ND after they went bankrupt in 1993. (Pretty much just a warezhouse and a trademark) I mailed him, told him a bit about the project, and asked him if there was any documentation or anything availible. He wanted to see the thing, and we decide to meet up at the Storebrand warehouse. He powered it up and started toggling and talking with me about the architecture. And what an architecture!! The most interesting feature is the concept of levels, which was new to me. The CPU had 16 levels, 0-15. A 'level' was pretty much a sort of what IBM would call PSW and Intel called ..was it TSS? Anyway, it describes a running task with all its registers. The interesting thing, is that the registers that you'd normally get from RAM with a Load PSW isntruction or an <Insert Intel equivalent> are actually registers inside the CPU! You just do a level switch, one instruction, and it switches levels and immediately continues the other level! Of course, with what ISTR being 6 GPRs and some things like PC and stuff, this would end up with a lot of registers. But boy, was it fast! In fact, some customers buying the ND-100, the sequel to the Nord-10, noticed a significant decrease in performance due to this. It also would BOOT OVER NETWORKS! IN 1972! In what was called OPCOM (IIRC), which was a small bootloader in PROM, you could boot from various devices. It used to have a disk, but now it doesn't :\ I am impressed at how much he remembered about the machine. Reading his homepage, I find that this was the first computer he used (And the first is always special... I envy him starting on such an ingenious arch instead of a sodding 286 like me) He didn't, however, remember any instructions, so no toggling yet. You could also tell the thing to boot from floppy using a terminal over current loop. However, being the owner of the friggin' company, he of course has a complete set of docs! And a terminal! Yay! He's promised to call me when he's heading up to his warehouse so I get a peek, too. I will of course take pictures if I can get to borrow my (What do you call people living in the room next to you at an orphanage? Neighbour?)'s CyberShot. I will of course start a webpage on this. For people wondering, the PDP-7 is still where it's always been, and waiting for a wire-wrapper. Thanks in advance for all the help you all probably will give me during this project ;) With excited rgds, -- Tore S Bekkedal <toresbe(a)ifi.uio.no>

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"metric buttload"

by aek＠spies.com

I think Eric Smith was using this phrase even earlier http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1991Aug10.162415.19314%40wpi.WPI.EDU&outp… Aug '91 I know that's where I picked it up from.

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back from the dead (mail server)

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hi, As yall have noticed, my (pdp11.nl) mail server died on me while I was away. Apparently, one of the RZ26L drives in Unibus died. While testing some of those drives, several others died, so I did replace all of them with new(er) RZ28's which have proben to be rock solid. Dunno how much mail was eventually bounced back, I believe the problems started wednesday night, soo... Cheers, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA

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Q.: Resonant Transformers

by aek＠spies.com

what you want to google for is "ferroresonant power supplies" http://www.mcitransformer.com/i_notes.html for example A ferroresonant power supply is very similar to an unregulated power supply except for the characteristics of the ferroresonant transformer. The ferroresonant transformer will supply a constant output voltage over a wide variation of the transformer input voltage. The problems with using a ferroresonant power supply include that it is very sensitive to slight changes in line frequency and would not be switchable from 50 Hz to 60 Hz, and that the transformers dissipate more heat than conventional transformers. These power supplies are heavier and will have more audible noise from the transformer resonance than regulated linear power supplies.

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DEC Stuff available in MA ... Part #1

by richard.beaudry＠gmail.com

Hello all, My company recently decommissioned a small DEC system. They were going to scrap it out, but the person who became the "owner" of the system was loathe to do that, as it was a working system. I spotted the pile of stuff, and asked about its status. Long story short, I am now the owner of the system. However, I know *ZERO* about DEC stuff, so I thought I would make it available to the list. I don't know if the pile represented a single system, or half a system, or what, but it is better than dumpstering it, right? :-) This is only part of the list -- the "small stuff" if you will. The "big stuff" is still waiting for me to go and get it. Once I get it and look it over, I will list it here as well (as a teaser, think B400X, R400X, TS05, RAID array, and MicroVAX). First, the brief rules: - Everything is free if you come get it (Westminster MA, USA, ZIP code 01473). If I ship it, I ask shipping +20% (for my time). "Shipping" includes postage and packaging materials. I buy all of my boxes, etc., at Staples... Please don't ask me to go 50 miles out of my way to get a cheaper box :-) - Please email me *off-list* to indicate yout interest. I will take emails up until Monday 11/15 at midnight, to give weekenders and international folks time to see this. I will decide who gets what in the event of multiple interested parties. I will email the lucky ones sometime on Tuesday. - I will try to answer all questions to the best of my abilities, but remember, my knowledge of DEC systems is less than zero.... OK, on to the stuff: - Terminal, VT-420 C2, manufactured 7-Aug-1990. Amber screen, passes diagnostics on power-up. Screen is kind of dim, and also "wavy" (letters move back and forth at high frequency). Also will need a good cleaning. Has a keyboard attached, LK-401-AA, rev. A02. Keyboard is also quite dirty, but appears to be functional (F3 brings up config. menu, and I could navigate w/ keyboard) - Terminal, VT-320 C2, manufactured 31-Aug-1990. Amber screen, bright stable picture, some burn-in, but not too bad. Startup diagnostics pass. Will need a good cleaning. Has attached keyboard, LK-401-EA, rev A04. Keyboard dirty, but functional. Has a WordPerfect template stuck on above the top row of keys. Again, F3 brought me to config, and I could navigate w/ keyboard. - Terminal, VT-520 C4, manufactured 1994. Amber screen, clean, but definite screen burn. Status line is badly burned in, and screen shows signs of other burn-in. Startup diagnostics pass. Has attached keyboard, LK-411-AA Rev B01, dirty but functional. I was able to bring up config and navigate w/ keyboard. - Terminal, VT-520 C4, manufactured 1994. Untested, because it is still in its original box. The box is opened, but the styrofoam packing is there, and the terminal appears still sealed inside the blue plastic bag it was shipped in. Base is also included, but NO manuals or keyboard. - DECServer 200/MC. Has a 15-pin Ethernet connector and 8 DB-25 male connectors. Also says Model: DSRVB-A. Untested, but working when pulled. - ThinWire Ethernet Singloport Repeater-150. DESPR-EE, rev C02. Looks cleam, missing rubber feet. Untested, but another working pull. - M9404-PA card. Full-height card. Half is just a plastic spacer, the other half says "Q22 Cable Connector". Untested. - M9047 Grant Continuity Card - Manual: "B400X Expander Installation Guide" - Manual: EK-BA44A-IN, "Entry Systems, BA400-Series Enclosures, Storage Devices Installation Procedures" (TWO copies) - Manual: EK-BA44A-IN-003, "Entry Systems, BA400-Series Enclosures, Storage Devices Installation Procedures" - Manual: EK-RF72D-UG, "RF Series Integrated Storage Element User's Guide" - Manual: EK-RF72D-IM, "RF Series Integrated Storage Element Installation Manual for BA200-Series Enclosures" - Plugs, possibly for setting Drive IDs, or Bus IDs? Part Number: 12-28766-19 REV A01. Three plugs with no ID, the rest numbered 0-7. One full set, one with blanks and 0,6,7 only. - Plugs, possibly for setting Drive IDs, or Bus IDs? Part Number: 12-28766-28 REV B01. Three plugs with no ID, the rest numbered 0-7. One full set, one with blanks and 0,5,6,7 only. - FIVE covers, look like they cover hard drives. 7027049-02, Rev. A01 Thanks! Rich B.

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Shipping a Model 33 (RO) Teletype

by wmaddox＠pacbell.net

I've bought a model 33 off eBay. The seller doesn't really know how to ship one -- he's just got it in a box with styrofoam peanuts. I'm trying to give him some instructions on how to do it right. I recall that there is a shipping screw that must be locked, but don't remember the details. Can anyone give me some instructions I can pass on to him? If anyone has shipped one of these, I'd like to know what worked and what didn't. I remember a few stories of machines damaged in transit showing up on the list. Thanks, --Bill

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Are you in Orange County, California?

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

Hello, Any collectors in or near OC, CA? I occassionally have things to get rid of, but nothing particularily valuable. Examples: Commodore stuff (VIC,C64). Portables (Compaq, Osborne). Books (Apple, Amiga). and other similar stuff. Watch for me on the Fox TV show "The O.C."! Just kidding, it's lame. Steve. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

21 years, 9 months

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Build your own Enigma!

by vcf＠siconic.com

This is really cool: http://www.xat.nl/enigma-e/ -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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PING Fred vanKempen

by jpl15＠panix.com

Yo Freddie - call me on my landline of cell if your mailserver is still stuffed up.... obClassiccmp: Found a few nice VaxStationen at Wierd Stuff last time I was there... an M3100/74 and accompanying Storage Expansion Box with all the cables intact, including the RGB/kybd/mouse cable. Ain't had time to power it up yet, but it's on The Canonical List of Things to Eventually Do. Cheers John

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one more question about pdp8/e console switches behaviour

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Thanks all for the explanation. I have put some new pictures on my website (www.pdp-11.nl) Goto [Homebrew 'PDP-11'] -> [spin off]. To get the LED's on the photo the colors of the artwork are not correct; the smal picture above it is more like it. The latest source code is available in the ZIP file (and with and without RealConsole in the two S19 record files). The S19 without RealConsole will run stand-alone on the Core Board (no I/O Board needed) if the 32k RAM chip is installed. I will certainly check out David's PDP-8 online. Cool! greetz, - Henk, PA8PDP. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Sent: 11-11-2004 18:32 Subject: Re: one more question about pdp8/e console switches behaviour I think people have answered your questions but if not my online PDP-8 interface should work like the real front panel. It is a real 8/E but the web interface is a custom board I made. I copied the front panel logic so it should act the same and it seemed to in my testing. http://www.pdp8.net/run.shtml David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights. Have any PDP-8 stuff you're willing to part with?

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Norsk Data Nord-10/S restoration effort on the way!

by toresbe＠ifi.uio.no

> [...Norsk Data NORD-10/S...] > Oh man, det er kjempe, KJEMPEkult! Hehe. visst faen :) >Now I _really_ need to find a way to move back to Norway! You wouldn't >happen to know of a job in the area looking for a mouse? :-) Bring a PDP-11 and I'll stash you in the basement ;) -- Tore S Bekkedal <toresbe(a)ifi.uio.no>

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changing email address

by millenniumfalcon＠cableone.net

How do I change the email address I receive this list on??? -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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Hold the scanners

by aek＠spies.com

pdfs of the fiche scans are trickling onto www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/fiche/200dpi I'm doing the diagnostic listings first, then any other documents that are readable and don't already appear from paper scans. I'll have a list of the full contents later tonight on bitsavers.

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Toshiba T4400 password

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

At 19:13 10/11/2004 -0400, you wrote: >At "Au Vieux PC" (where shopping is always an Adventure) I spotted a T4400 >with docking station and parallele port to SCSI addapter and other bits. >All for 15 CAD. > >However, the T4400 has a BIOS password. >http://www.bitlink.ca/Library/toshiba.shtml Says that it's impossible to >remove the password. Anyone here have any other ideas? > >Also, anyone want this beast? > >-Philip Philip, If you have a parallel port, you should be able to do it. I have never done this myself, however it is reported by many to work on Toshiba laptops: ----------------------- Begin Quote ---------------------- This method works on all older (ancient) models. This is what you need: 1. Your notebook 2. An empty formatted diskette (720 kb or 1,44 mb) 3. A second computer (e.g. a DOS desktop PC) 4. A hex-editor (e.g. Norton DiskEdit or HexWorks) This is what you have to do: 1. Start the desktop PC and start the hex-editor 2. Put the disk in drive A: 3. Change the first five bytes of sector 2 (boot sector is sector 1) to: 4B 45 59 00 00 4. Save it! Now you have a KEYDISK 5. Remove the disk from drive A: 6. Put the disk in the notebook drive 7. Start the notebook in Boot Mode (push the reset button) 8. Press Enter when asked for Password: 9. You will be asked to Set Password again. Press Y and Enter. 10. You now see the BIOS configuration where you can set a new password. Of course this will only work if you can still boot the machine. Newer models try: Toshiba notebook BIOS password removal via Parallel Port If you make a simple device that you connect to your parallel port, a lot of Toshiba computers remove the password when you boot it up. The device, named "loopback" by some, could be made out of any parallel wire with 25pins connectors. You should connect these pins: 1-5-10, 2-11, 3-17, 4-12, 6-16, 7-13, 8-14, 9-15 For those who care, what is connect to what 1-5-10, 1=Strob, 5 =data bit 3, 10 = ack 2-11, 2=data bit 0, 11=Busy 3-17, 3=data bit 1, 17=SLCT IN 4-12, 4=data bit 2, 12=Paper End 6-16, 6=data bit 4, 16=reset 7-13, 7=data bit 5, 13=SLCT (out) 8-14, 8=data bit 6, 14=Auto feed 9-15 9=data bit 7, n/c sometimes +5v If you have a newer laptop again, one without a parallel port you will need a special USB password removal tool, and they cost much more. ---------------- End Quote ---------------- If you give up on it or otherwise decide to unload it, I have some interest (located in Ottawa). Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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Hold the scanners

by Watzman＠neo.rr.com

Re: "Obviously the value would be greatly enhanced if we could knock up an index (document title or part number, where it starts, where it ends) and better yet if individual docs could be pulled out into separate pdfs." All of this is fairly easy if you have full-version Adobe Acrobat. I'm not saying it's not time consuming, but it's far less difficult than many people (who have never used full-version Acrobat, but have only used the reader) would suspect. I MIGHT do it if I get access to the files. Downloading 1,000 jpegs will probably take a lot more time than consolidating them into a PDF file, which can then be fairly indexed.

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Old Typesetting files

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I'm aware of someone that is looking to get some of the books they publish into a modern format. Curently the data exists in such formats as IBM Mag Cards and Scenicwriter, as well as other formats. Does anyone know of anyway of converting these two formats into something like RTF? Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Linux OS

by millenniumfalcon＠cableone.net

I have been ready for 20 years to dump "Uncle Bill" but every time I try to switch to Linux I run into problems that seem insurmountable. Recently I have been looking at the Linspire line of products...Lindows in particular. It looks like what I need, BUT....just as always, when I ask about compatibility with the various applications that I now run under XP I get the same run-around. "Get it and try with Wine and see if it works." If I have to get drunk first, I am not interested...#8-) I can't do that. There are programs I need and I cannot just take a chance that "maybe it will work" My main concerns are Adobe PDF creator, Adobe Photo Shop, Netscape, and particularly Easy Office 2001 which contains all my data in Easy Spreadsheet files that are not compatible with Excel (even though they are supposed to be). I don't want to have to go out and buy an all new set of apps. That makes the relatively low price of Lindows immaterial. And besides, all my files would likely be incompatible so I lose all my old data unless I keep two machines. Also, I use Netscape for browser and E Mail and I have tons of mail files and bookmarks that I would have to figure out how to get over to Lindows...Unless Netscape will run under Lindows. ???? I know there are free apps that can do word processing and spreadsheets and photo processing, but they appear to be "stripped down" versions. I can network the old and new computers ( I already have the LAN in operation with two MS OS computers on it) then I could download all my files and programs into the new computer....IF I COULD BE SURE that they would work with the Lindows OS. Spending $49 to try what might be a failure is NOT an option. Does anyone have any suggestions other than buy it and hope it works?

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Stuff Available Ft. Wayne IN

by Gary.Messick＠itt.com

Equipment just saw outside at a surplus dealer: 2 Xerox 820's of some type, 1 DEC Minc-11, 1 DEC PDP-11/73, 1 Osborne-1, 1 DEC Gi-Gi, 4 Wang MVPs with Terminals and Peripherals. No connection to dealer. Contact: Pembelton Electronics, Inc. Ft Wayne, IN 46808 (260) 484-1812 ************************************ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are proprietary and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Industries, Inc. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT Industries accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. ************************************

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VCF 7.0 micro wrap-up

by vcf＠siconic.com

So VCF 7.0 was pretty damn awesome. Thanks to all who came, especially to those who exhibited. Attendance was lower than last year, but the turnout was still really good. I won't have an absolute number for a few more days yet. I'll try to get the photo gallery up a lot quicker this time. Look for that in the next two weeks. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Edusystem 50 on SBC6120?

by aek＠spies.com

> What steps would be necessary to run Edusystem 50 on an SBC6120? Simulation of an RF08 256kword swapping disc. The copies of EDU50 that survive require the use of that disc for swapping.

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Hold the scanners! (was DEC Docs, Diagrams, and Diags. on Microfische)

by vaxlion＠postal.lionsden.com

Hi Folks, Long time lurker, first time poster here. I'm the seller of the microfiche collection up on ebay. I apologize that I haven't jump in here sooner and talked about this. The collection HAS been scanned into a ~4GB set of jpegs and tiffs. A professional scanning company was used: www.data2cd.com. At the time, over 2 years now, they were the cheapest and scanned per microfiche. Due to time constrains, absent-mindedness, and bandwidth limitations, I haven't made the files available. The scans are only organized into pages per microfiche... no other sorting or labeling has been done. In some cases, there are more than one set of documents present on a microfiche. There are some pages were data2cd was not able to extract enough detail. Either the density was beyond their equipment and/or the original page was not transfered/photographed correctly. I'd be very happy to flood someone's connection for a weekend to transfer the files over with the promise to organize and host the files for the general vintage computing public. Ideally, it would be nice to have these organized into PDFs. Also, it would be nice to throw some files at an OCR to extract the diagnostic source code. My recommendation is to bet on the auction if you have a desire to collect such material and can preserve it. Please don't bet with the only intention to scan these -- that's already been done! -- Michael

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HP, Tek, IBM manuals on ebay

by tomj＠wps.com

Welp, my project car needs an engine so I'm selling trinkets on ePay. Some Tek and HP catalogs, a couple old ones. Two items are umm substantially priced, my IBM 7090 reference manuals. It's possibly, even likely, insane, but hey, it's only bits (and cash). I've got a bit of hardware I'll put up soon, like a working GRiDcase with expansion chassis, etc.

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HP 331A DISTORTION ANALYZER

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

HP 1331A DISTORTION ANALYZER found at local surplus spot. Mike m m c f a d d e n at c m h dot e d u

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HP 1611a logic state analyzer in kansas city

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

HP 1611a logic state analyzer with 1611a option Z80 found atlocal surplus spot. Mike m m c f a d d e n at c m h dot e d u

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pdp 11

by rpirving＠zoominternet.net

I'm looking for boards for an ancient pdp-11. The first is M8090. 2, M8030. 3, M7430. If you can point me in the right direction, I would be most appreciative. Regards, Ron

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Straight-8 spotted on James Burke's "Connections"

by dickset＠amanda.spole.gov

I was watching "Connections", (either ep 4 or ep 5 - "Faith in Numbers" or "Wheel of Fortune", when about 3 min into the show, James Burke fires up a Straight-8 w/LED front-panel lights, and at least a couple of DECtape drives, all to control a planetarium. I just about fell off the couch! http://www.documentary-video.com/displayitem.cfm?vid=854 -ethan P.S. - to make this doubly on-topic, I was watching this on Betamax. I think the South Pole has the largest Beta repository on the planet - several hundred original tapes. I probably found about one or two a week to watch, all year long, from "Soylent Green" to "2001" to "Forbidden Planet", and lots more! -- Ethan Dicks, A-130-S Current South Pole Weather at 11-Nov-2004 22:01 Z South Pole Station PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -40 F (-40.0 C) Windchill -72.59 F (-58.2 C) APO AP 96598 Wind 15.1 kts Grid 000 Barometer 690.3 mb (10238. ft) Ethan.Dicks(a)amanda.spole.gov http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html

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Edusystem 50 on SBC6120?

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

What steps would be necessary to run Edusystem 50 on an SBC6120? (On one terminal, at least initially).

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I finally got something on topic outside Token Ring! hehe...

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

It's best to know what model PS/2. If it's a 95xx, it will be much easier and even fun to set up. In a message dated 11/12/2004 8:31:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, john_boffemmyer_iv(a)boff-net.dhs.org writes: A fellow IBM'er of mine is selling me his complete IBM PS/2 system. It's MicroChannel AND has Token Ring! woohoo. It is also SCSI! I am also getting a MAU in original plastic still WITH reset tool. yippie. I can add that to the 24 port Bay Networks (now Nortel) Baystack 504 (mod) that I have. Now all I need to do is toss in a few larger SCSI drives and find someone nice enough to have a copy of the MCA configuration floppy that I will be needing. Once I know the specific unit, I will ask the list for help on that. More than likely, I know I'll get a few flames, but hey, gotta ask as it will be my main machine/server on the TR side of the network. It is currently running DOS and a semi-modified Windows 3.1 (?). I want to do something, like toss Debian on it as it has a very nice net install and works well for me so far. Any suggestions guys? -John Boffemmyer IV ---------------------------------------- Founder, Network Engineer, Tech Analyst and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html ----------------------------------------

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Nice PDP-Stuff available from Michigan State University

by fm.arnold＠gmx.net

I saw this in the usenet in alt.sys.pdp11, and I am unfortunately too far away to get it myself... Anyone here? Frank >************** First Message ************* >Greetings from Michigan State University > >I've got the following group of stuff set to go to salvage and have no >idea of the value (if any) that they have anymore. Any information would >be appreciated. > >DEC PDP 11/93 - RSX11M+ > TK-50 TAPE DRIVE (1) > MAXTOR RD-54 DRIVES (2) > M3106 - 4 LINE ASYNC CARD (2) > M3107 - DHQ11-M ASYNC MUX (1) > M7516 - Q-BUS TO ETHERNET ADAPTOR (1) > M7555 - RD DISK CONT BD F4/D1,DUAL (1) > M8991 (1) > M9058 - RQDX2,3 CABLE PADDLE CARD (1) > M9401 - GRANT CONTINUITY CARD (3) > >DEC PDP 11/83 - RSX11M+ > TK-50 TAPE DRIVE (1) > MAXTOR RD-54 DRIVES (2) > M3106 - 4 LINE ASYNC CARD (2) > M3107 - DHQ11-M ASYNC MUX (2) > M7516 - Q-BUS TO ETHERNET ADAPTOR (1) > M7555 - RD DISK CONT BD F4/D1,DUAL (1) > M9058 - RQDX2,3 CABLE PADDLE CARD (1) > >DEC VAXStation II > MAXTOR RD-53 DRIVES (2) > M3106 - 4 LINE ASYNC CARD (2) > M7504 - DEQN-M Q-BUS ETHERNET CARD (1) > M7555 - RD DISK CONT BD F4/D1,DUAL (1) > M8027 - LPV11 PRINTER CONTROLLER (1) > M9058 - RQDX2,3 CABLE PADDLE CARD (1) > EMULEX TC0210201-FSH - TAPE CONTROLLER > EMULEX SC0310201-BXF - DISK CONTROLLER > >MISCELLANEOUS > DEC H3104 - 36-PIN TO 8 MMJ PORTS (3) > DECXM-M.D01 - AUI X BNC THINWIRE MAU (2) > DEC BNE40=02 - 2M E-NET/IEEE 802 NI CABLE (2) > DEC H8571-C - MMJ-RS232 ADAPTER (3) > DEC H8571-D - MMJ-RS232 ADAPTER (2) > DEC H8575-B - DB9F / MMJ ADAPTER (7) > EMU-TEK - REVs 3.0A and 3.0B (1ea) > VT520-A4 TERMINAL (1) > BLACK BOX 4-1 RS-232 SWITCH (DB25) > BLACK BOX 6-1 RS-232 SWITCH (DB25) > >Thanks... > >Todd Wilson >HVAC Services - Michigan State University > > > > >************** Second Message ************* >I should clarify... > >These systems are to be sent to salvage complete, and I don't intend to >part them out. Of the miscellaneous parts, the H3104s go with the PDPs (2 >with the 11/83, 1 with the 11/93). The MAUs and NI cables were a DECNet >interface between the two PDPs. 232-MMJ adapters, I have a bunch of >generics (bought from Black-Box) along with the actual DEC ones listed. I >also have quite a bit of documentation with the PDPs. The VaxStation was >procured as a parts machine since it is also QBus and PDP parts were >becoming scarce(though we never used it as such). My hope is to generate >some interest in them so that someone will buy them through salvage rather >than sending them to the crusher. The last unit I sent to salvage was an >11/24, 5 full enclosures, 9 RA-81 disk drives, 1 RA-80, 2 RLO2, and about >(literally) 30 RLO2 Pacs. All were crushed due to lack of interest. When I >send this group of items to salvage, it will include some LA100 and 120 >printers and stands, an RLO2 Diagnostic Pac (RSX11M), and I think I have 2 >or three more VTs (if memory serves, VT320s). I might have 1 more RA80 >also. My intent is to post back here with details on how to purchase the >items through salvage when I send them (within the next week or two). Many >have offered EBay as an option, but our equipment transfer rules do not >permit direct sale of University owned items. All inventoried materials >must be transferred to Salvage for release from the University. > >If anyone need to contact me about them, I can be reached at > >Direct Line: (517)432-0533 >Email: tdwilson(a)pplant.msu.edu > >Thanks > >Todd Wilson >

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Hold the scanners!

by aek＠spies.com

> outstring (1, "Make multiple copies!\n"); about 700mb (~200 sheets) are on bitsavers after about 2.5 hours. they are in a hidden directory that the ftp mirrors will pick up. i'm guessing it will be some time in the early morning when the transfer finishes. the good news is the diagnostic listings look OK. the bad news is they were scanned with an effective resolution of 200dpi, which is going to make it very iffy to OCR. bundling the diagnostic listings into pdfs combining multiple sheets and adding page numbers should be fairly easy to automate.

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VINTAGE COMPUTER HOBBYIST COLLECTION

by rich_bramante＠yahoo.com

I am forwarding this from the Boston Craigslist in case anybody is interested. Reply to: anon-48640258(a)craigslist.org ================================================================= I have a 5x10ft storage locker with 24 years worth of computing, but now I am moving and have to get rid of it. You can keep this in your own collection or sell it on eBay. Help me clean it out within the next few weeks by taking all of it. To keep it serious I'll accept offers for one week. If no offers, not even token offers, I'll take it all to the dump myself. I have a pickup truck and can help transport if you pay gas. Located and available to be seen in Londonderry, NH, at exit 5 off Interstate 93. Little of this stuff is usable in a modern environment, but it all worked when taken out of service. Apple //e. Monochrome and 13-in digital color monitors, 5MB Corvus hard drive, Imagewriter 1 printer. Many cards and accessories. Complete Apple Pascal and Modula-2 system. A whole bunch of software and manuals. Macintosh Plus. 20MB hard drive. Many accessories. Software and manuals. Compaq II 80286 portable computer with 20MB hard drive. Canon 8086 computer and monitor. 80286 IBM AT clone with monitor. All these would make good Minix systems to toy with. 8088 computer and monitor with floppy drives. 80386 DOS laptop. HP Omnibook 300 ultraportable Windows notebook. Sun IPX Solaris UNIX workstation with disk array, 19-inch color monitor, keyboard, mouse. HP Laserjet 3P (needs board). A couple of Epson inkjet printers. A couple of Microtek SCSI flatbed optical scanners. Hundreds of manuals and books, especially on Pascal and Unix, will sell separately or keep but won't give away. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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by aek＠spies.com

I'd be very happy to flood someone's connection for a weekend to transfer the files over with the promise to organize and host the files for the general vintage computing public. -- I can take care of this on bitsavers.

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cctalk Digest, Vol 15, Issue 15

by gstreet＠indy.net

> > > This is really cool: > > http://www.xat.nl/enigma-e/ > > Sellam Ismail > Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------ >>What's the point? If you want an Enigma copy, then build a real >>mechanical one (not at all impossible in a good home workshop). If you >>want an encryption system, then use one of the many more secure ones that >>are available now, If for some reason you want to be able to >>encode/decode enigma messages, it's not hard to write a suitable program >>for a good handheld computer/calculator. >>This seems to be as pointless as those fake 'old radios' that look like >>pre-war sets but which have ICs inside (or the UK 'copies' of 1960's >>transistor portables with the FM band and ICs inside). If you want a >>valve radio, then get one... >>-tony ------------------------------------------------ OK, naysayers. Fine, be that way... But I commend anyone who takes the time to make such a kit. I think it's incredibly cool--just like the various emulations from the paper versions to the simulator versions to the real copies. They all took a great deal of thought and planning. "Dissing" something like this reminds me of when I still had a shot at flying for my once great company. One of the chief pilots in charge of (pilot) hiring had _nothing_ good to say about simulators at all. He especially _hated_ any PC version of a fltsim. In point of fact, ual had one of the best pilot training programs on the planet, and guess what(?), like all airlines, they train in the sim (full motion, awesomely realistic). The final checkride is in the real thing (to my knowledge, the final checkouts were done on revenue flights). Sims must not be all that bad, eh? Not everyone has access to full motion sims--in fact, almost no one does... I fell in love with the first sim I ever saw. It was a "terrain modeling board" based T-37 full motion sim. Later, we got to fly the cgi versions (which were nightime only, due to the limited graphics capabilities available when they were made). T-38 sims were all cgi based (No mechinal stuff to break down, and it was the instrumentation that they were interested in). In 1980, this stuff seemed "spaced-aged" (esp. the cgi sims, which were crude by today's standards). I've been following PC based fltsims since the early days (and they really were crude by today's standards). There are those who still have nothing good to say about PC-based sims, but I can't say enough good about them. Apparently, a difference in perception... (And, yes, I acknowledge that there is no substitute for the real thing, but they truly are one of the most efficient ways ever devised to turn gold into thin air, and they take up a lot of space and need lots of care and attention! It's definitely a trade-off...) Regards, Bob Greenstreet

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by aek＠spies.com

> I was going to suggest Retroarchive You're certainly welcome to mirror bitsavers content, if you have a way to do mirroring via ftp. It is currently around 37gb.

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New Finds: SGI Indigo Win some, lose some

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I took a brief trip out to one of my scrap^H^H^H^H^H er, treasure sources today. I didn't expect to find much and I wasn't disappointed if you catch my meaning. However I did find a loose board that looks suspiously like a SGI Indigo board which surprised me because I've never seen any Indigo stuff at this place. I brought home the board and checked on the net and found that it's fairly rare card for the Indigos. It's Real Time Video Capture Card, pn 030-8095-003. But unfortunately it's in really bad condition, something heavy was dropped on it and the board is cracked and at least one surface mount IC is broken in half :-( But the good news is that I also found a floppy disk drive in a SGI sled and it appears to be the right one for the Indigo. The one in my R4400 Indigo is flaky so the trip was worth it after all. Joe

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list woes?

by tomj＠wps.com

(Unrelated to Micheal's post, just the bearer of bad content from the list.) The message from Michael re: fiche has malformed To: data. Someone's not handling quotes properly! Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:59:31 -0500 From: Michael <vaxlion(a)postal.lionsden.com> Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> To: General(a)apocalypse.org, "Discussion(a)apocalypse.org"@fiche.wps.com:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: Hold the scanners! (was DEC Docs, Diagrams, and Diags. on Microfische)

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Scanning books

by aek＠spies.com

> Otherwise, the way this is handled is to shear the binding off the book. Sewn book bindings can be disassembled without shearing. Take the journals apart then scan the left and right pages sequentially. Most glued bindings and be peeled apart in a similar manner. In fact, it's difficult to keep a glued binding from falling apart if it's older than 20 years. The problem with shearing a binding is you have to make absolutely, positively sure that all of the pages are aligned, or you take a 'C' shaped cut out of the bound edge of the book. By the time you get a book down to the size where you can make sure the stacks are straight, you may as well have taken them all apart by hand.

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Needs Rescuing - Tektronics Terminal

by millenniumfalcon＠cableone.net

Where are they? Original Message: ----------------- From: Marvin Johnston marvin(a)rain.org Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:00:39 -0800 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Needs Rescuing - Tektronics Terminal A friend of mine has two Tektronics T-4109 terminals w/ keyboards and graphics tablet that need to go away today or tomorrow. Does anyone want these? I can pick them up and hold for a short while if necessary. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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Needs Rescuing - Tektronics Terminal

by marvin＠rain.org

The terminals have been spoken for.

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one more question about pdp8/e console switches behaviour

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 11 2004, 13:29, Gooijen H wrote: > Hmm, is that behaviour of a real pdp8/e console logical? > I am not saying it is wrong; perhaps the impementation DIGITAL > made is a little strange ...? I think it's perfectly logical. When you press EXAM, it increments the address ready to read the next word. When you press DEP, it increments the address ready for the next entry. Unlike a PDP-11, where sometimes it increments, sometimes not, and you have to remember the rules :-) It's just a different way of doing it. Remember this is a simpler machine, designed some years before the -11. > When you activate HALT (or SING STEP), the top row of lights > show the Memory Address (aka the Program Counter, PC). > When the knob is then set at "MD" the current instruction (at PC) > is displayed on the 'data' row of lights below the Memory Address. > So far so good (correct?). Yes, if you HALT a running program, that's correct. It displays the address just about to be used, logically, so that if you press CONT it starts at the address which is displayed, just as if you did an ADDR LOAD of that address, and then pressed CONT. > When you press EXAM the *first* time, the data still shows what > is at memory location [PC], but the Memory Address shows [PC+1] ... Yes. It shows the word at the address that was displayed just before you pressed EXAM. Having pressed EXAM, it then displays the next address. > That would mean that the displayed data and the displayed Memory > Address *can* be out of 'sync'. Only after you pressed EXAM at least > once you are sure that the displayed data is from location minus one > from the displayed Memory Address. > Is my understanding correct? It's not really out of sync. When running, or after a HALT, and BEFORE you tamper with any switches, the display shows the current address and the data at that address. Which is probably what you want, most of the time. If you then press EXAM, you will get the data from whatever address was current (and displayed) just before you press EXAM. If you press DEP instead, the data you write would go to the address that was current, and displayed, just before you pressed DEP. When you press either of those keys, the address is incremented ready for the next EXAM or DEP. > Other question. > Is the increment after EXAM (and DEP) *always* done on the pdp8/e? It's always done. It's done as you press the switch down. > The reason I'm asking is that on PDP-11's the repeated sequence > EXAM / DEP / EXAM / DEP, etc. does *not* increment the address. > Address increment is only done when EXAM is pressed after EXAM > was pressed. Likewise for a DEP / DEP sequence. PDP-8 users get the DEP right the first time, and don't need to check it ;-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Needs Rescuing - Tektronics Terminal

by marvin＠rain.org

Oops, I should have mentioned that these are in Santa Barbara, California. His comment was that these are in pristine condition (although they are probably dusty from where they have been sitting.)

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Needs Rescuing - Tektronics Terminal

by marvin＠rain.org

A friend of mine has two Tektronics T-4109 terminals w/ keyboards and graphics tablet that need to go away today or tomorrow. Does anyone want these? I can pick them up and hold for a short while if necessary.

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Shipping a Model 33 (RO) Teletype

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Definitely do not let them ship it in a box filled with peanuts. With a heavy object, some sort of liquefaction occurs and the object bangs around inside the box. Poured foam can work if the thing is sealed in a plastic bag. I've had very good luck when the shipper has used pieces of rigid styrofoam, even scraps broken up from the large styrofoam castings used to ship monitors or computers, fit tightly on all six sides of the object being shipped, leaving no empty volume. I just received a paper tape punch and reader from the Netherlands shipped this way and there wasn't a crack or scratch. Brian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _| _| _| Brian Knittel _| _| _| Quarterbyte Systems, Inc. _| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 _| _| _| Fax: 1-510-525-6889 _| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com _| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com

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I need 5251 keyboard photo

by jwstephens＠msm.umr.edu

I need a photo of a 5251 keyboard with enough detail to make out the keyboard layout if possible. email if you can scan or photograph one for me from some place. thanks, jim

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Subject: Toshiba T4400 password

by Watzman＠neo.rr.com

Yes, it's not too difficult to remove passwords from older Toshiba models. There are 2 ways, basically. One uses a dongle on the parallel port, the other uses a floppy diskette with some magic bytes in a particular place on the disk. Both the dongle and pre-made floppies are sold on E-Bay. With a bit of effort, you can track down information on how to make either yourself.

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one more question about pdp8/e console switches behaviour

by djg＠drs-c4i.com

I think people have answered your questions but if not my online PDP-8 interface should work like the real front panel. It is a real 8/E but the web interface is a custom board I made. I copied the front panel logic so it should act the same and it seemed to in my testing. http://www.pdp8.net/run.shtml David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights. Have any PDP-8 stuff you're willing to part with?

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one more question about pdp8/e console switches behaviour

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Hmm, is that behaviour of a real pdp8/e console logical? I am not saying it is wrong; perhaps the impementation DIGITAL made is a little strange ...? When you activate HALT (or SING STEP), the top row of lights show the Memory Address (aka the Program Counter, PC). When the knob is then set at "MD" the current instruction (at PC) is displayed on the 'data' row of lights below the Memory Address. So far so good (correct?). When you press EXAM the *first* time, the data still shows what is at memory location [PC], but the Memory Address shows [PC+1] ... That would mean that the displayed data and the displayed Memory Address *can* be out of 'sync'. Only after you pressed EXAM at least once you are sure that the displayed data is from location minus one >from the displayed Memory Address. Is my understanding correct? Other question. Is the increment after EXAM (and DEP) *always* done on the pdp8/e? The reason I'm asking is that on PDP-11's the repeated sequence EXAM / DEP / EXAM / DEP, etc. does *not* increment the address. Address increment is only done when EXAM is pressed after EXAM was pressed. Likewise for a DEP / DEP sequence. again, TIA, - Henk, PA8PDP. > The position is always relevant, but you don't set it to AC. You set > it to MD (Memory Data). And when you press EXAM (or DEP), the address > displayed on the upper row will increment (but the data displayed will > remain the same, the data for the address that was current when you > pressed EXAM/DEP).

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I finally got something on topic outside Token Ring! hehe...

by john_boffemmyer_iv＠boff-net.dhs.org

A fellow IBM'er of mine is selling me his complete IBM PS/2 system. It's MicroChannel AND has Token Ring! woohoo. It is also SCSI! I am also getting a MAU in original plastic still WITH reset tool. yippie. I can add that to the 24 port Bay Networks (now Nortel) Baystack 504 (mod) that I have. Now all I need to do is toss in a few larger SCSI drives and find someone nice enough to have a copy of the MCA configuration floppy that I will be needing. Once I know the specific unit, I will ask the list for help on that. More than likely, I know I'll get a few flames, but hey, gotta ask as it will be my main machine/server on the TR side of the network. It is currently running DOS and a semi-modified Windows 3.1 (?). I want to do something, like toss Debian on it as it has a very nice net install and works well for me so far. Any suggestions guys? -John Boffemmyer IV ---------------------------------------- Founder, Network Engineer, Tech Analyst and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html ----------------------------------------

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one more question about pdp8/e console switches behaviour

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Thanks very much for the clear answer, Pete. I have a webpage "in development", and hope to add a few pictures representing the latest state of affairs. There is also a ZIP file but it is an old version ... I will clean up the current source (remove some debugging stuff) and make that available for download as well. If you have a working Core Board *with* the extra 16k RAM chip, you can run the pdp8/e simulation without the I/O Board by just assembling the source with the "RealCons" conditional set to 0. The wiring details (and more) are all in the source file. The link to the page is: www.pdp-11.nl -- the click on [Homebrew 'PDP-11'] in the menu at the left, and on the page that opens click the link [spin off] at the top right. enjoy (?), - Henk, PA8PDP. > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Pete Turnbull > Sent: donderdag 11 november 2004 9:08 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: one more question about pdp8/e console switches behaviour > > > On Nov 11 2004, 8:32, Gooijen H wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I have the pdp8/e *including* the console running on the Core > > 6809 Board (plus one I/O Board)! > > Nice! I look forward to seeing this. > > > If the HALT (or SING STEP) switch is down, you can use the EXAM > > and DEP momentary switches. If I press EXAM, I want to see the > > 12-bit word contents of the address currently on display in the > > top row (memory address) of the console. > > That 12-bit word is displayed on the 12 lights below the memory > > address lights. Is it correct that the position of the selector > > switch (the rotary knob) must be on "AC" to see the contents of > > the active address? Or is its position not relevant while HALT > > (or SING STEP) is active which seems odd to me because you want > > to be able to see more than just the AC when you HALTed the CPU? > > The position is always relevant, but you don't set it to AC. You set > it to MD (Memory Data). And when you press EXAM (or DEP), the address > displayed on the upper row will increment (but the data displayed will > remain the same, the data for the address that was current when you > pressed EXAM/DEP). > > > The answer seems easy, I just want to hear confirmation. > > The current implementation shows the contents briefly after I > > pressed EXAM *and* the knob is on "AC". Just *very briefly*, > > then the simulation shows the actual AC content again. > > It shouldn't do that. > > > So, on a real pdp8/e I assume that when the knob is on "AC" you > > see the contents of AC when HALT is active? > > Yes, without any glitches from the data. But only if the rotary knob > is turned to the AC position, otherwise you see whatever you've > selected (STATE, STATUS, AC, MD, MQ, BUS). > > > In that case, after the user pushed EXAM once (and the memory > > contents is displayed as I described above), how does he get to > > see contents of the "AC" again? > > > > Hope I made myself clear why I asked the question ... > > > > TIA, > > - Henk, PA8PDP. > > -- > Pete Peter Turnbull > Network Manager > University of York

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one more question about pdp8/e console switches behaviour

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 11 2004, 8:32, Gooijen H wrote: > Hello all, > > I have the pdp8/e *including* the console running on the Core > 6809 Board (plus one I/O Board)! Nice! I look forward to seeing this. > If the HALT (or SING STEP) switch is down, you can use the EXAM > and DEP momentary switches. If I press EXAM, I want to see the > 12-bit word contents of the address currently on display in the > top row (memory address) of the console. > That 12-bit word is displayed on the 12 lights below the memory > address lights. Is it correct that the position of the selector > switch (the rotary knob) must be on "AC" to see the contents of > the active address? Or is its position not relevant while HALT > (or SING STEP) is active which seems odd to me because you want > to be able to see more than just the AC when you HALTed the CPU? The position is always relevant, but you don't set it to AC. You set it to MD (Memory Data). And when you press EXAM (or DEP), the address displayed on the upper row will increment (but the data displayed will remain the same, the data for the address that was current when you pressed EXAM/DEP). > The answer seems easy, I just want to hear confirmation. > The current implementation shows the contents briefly after I > pressed EXAM *and* the knob is on "AC". Just *very briefly*, > then the simulation shows the actual AC content again. It shouldn't do that. > So, on a real pdp8/e I assume that when the knob is on "AC" you > see the contents of AC when HALT is active? Yes, without any glitches from the data. But only if the rotary knob is turned to the AC position, otherwise you see whatever you've selected (STATE, STATUS, AC, MD, MQ, BUS). > In that case, after the user pushed EXAM once (and the memory > contents is displayed as I described above), how does he get to > see contents of the "AC" again? > > Hope I made myself clear why I asked the question ... > > TIA, > - Henk, PA8PDP. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Xerox GUI on a PC???

by cvendel＠att.net

Is there a PD program that can be downloaded to run a PC to give it the look & feel of the original Xerox Altos or Star 8010 ??? Curt

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one more question about pdp8/e console switches behaviour

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Hello all, I have the pdp8/e *including* the console running on the Core 6809 Board (plus one I/O Board)! But ... I have one more question about the behaviour of the pdp8/e. If the HALT (or SING STEP) switch is down, you can use the EXAM and DEP momentary switches. If I press EXAM, I want to see the 12-bit word contents of the address currently on display in the top row (memory address) of the console. That 12-bit word is displayed on the 12 lights below the memory address lights. Is it correct that the position of the selector switch (the rotary knob) must be on "AC" to see the contents of the active address? Or is its position not relevant while HALT (or SING STEP) is active which seems odd to me because you want to be able to see more than just the AC when you HALTed the CPU? The answer seems easy, I just want to hear confirmation. The current implementation shows the contents briefly after I pressed EXAM *and* the knob is on "AC". Just *very briefly*, then the simulation shows the actual AC content again. So, on a real pdp8/e I assume that when the knob is on "AC" you see the contents of AC when HALT is active? In that case, after the user pushed EXAM once (and the memory contents is displayed as I described above), how does he get to see contents of the "AC" again? Hope I made myself clear why I asked the question ... TIA, - Henk, PA8PDP.

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PING Fred Van Kempen

by jpl15＠panix.com

Hay! Yer server's chokin' on sumpin' - sez my mail's done been De-layed. Dang. John

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Macintosh Plus 1MB with kybd., mouse, cables, cover(s) Free for Postag e

by wpileggi＠juno.com

A Macintosh Plus 1MB with keyboard, mouse, power cable, apple cable and dust cover(s) followed me home from trash night. I powered it up - makes the tone, then wants you to load floppy disk in drive. I've got no boot disks... Display is good. Overall condition is decent, needs cleaning. Weights 20 pounds/9Kg. total. It's yours for postage from 19001 USPS; 19044 UPS; 19034 Fedex. In case you're interested, they threw out the Apple printer last week - someone else picked it up. I got the HP laser printer though last week....strangely enough, they threw out another HP laser printer tonight, this time with a toner cartridge. The toner cartridge is bad...rats...Bill. ________________________________________________________________ Juno Platinum $9.95. Juno SpeedBand $14.95. Sign up for Juno Today at http://www.juno.com! Look for special offers at Best Buy stores.

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Almost vintage...

by news＠computercollector.com

I'm looking for a copy of AutoCAD 12 for DOS -- circa mid-1990s. Can someone perhaps copy the disks onto a CD for me (please)...? Of course, I'll pay for the CD and mailing. I don't need any documentation. Thanks, Evan ===== Tell your friends about the Computer Collector Newsletter! -- It's free and we'll never send spam or share your email address -- Publishing every Monday(-ish), ask about writing for us -- Mainframes to videogames, hardware and software, we cover it all Visit the museums directory and read about past events at our web site: http://news.computercollector.com Contact us at news(a)computercollector.com 585 readers and counting!

21 years, 9 months

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Toshiba T4400 password

by liste＠artware.qc.ca

At "Au Vieux PC" (where shopping is always an Adventure) I spotted a T4400 with docking station and parallele port to SCSI addapter and other bits. All for 15 CAD. However, the T4400 has a BIOS password. http://www.bitlink.ca/Library/toshiba.shtml Says that it's impossible to remove the password. Anyone here have any other ideas? Also, anyone want this beast? -Philip

21 years, 9 months

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DEC Docs, Diagrams, and Diags. on Microfische

by aek＠spies.com

> I'm going to take a crack at bidding. I have access to fiche scanners. -- I have all of this fiche already, and thousands of sheets more if you have equipment to scan it (300dpi effective resolution preferred)

21 years, 9 months

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Help, I can't get emails

by kurtk7＠visi.com

Hello, I need a bit of help. I had a problem with my ISP and my mailbox got shut down for three days. After this, I am having problems getting my daily messages for either cctalk or cctech. I tried resubscribing but those requests bounced. I emailed mailman-owner(a)classiccmp.org but was told my email was rejected, please email mailman-owner(a)classiccmp.org. If someone might be able to help, please respond to my email. Please feel free to forward this to the appropriate admin for resolution. Thank you for any help you can provide, Kurt

21 years, 9 months

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PDP-11 Stuff In Michigan

by ohh＠drizzle.com

Hey, here's a couple of posts from alt.sys.pdp11 for those who have an interest: the first a list of equipment, the second some additional information about their current situation. Sounds like a potentially nice bunch o' stuff. No affiliation, and Michigan's about 2000 miles out of my way. :) -O.- -- first forwarded message -- From: Todd Wilson <wilsonto(a)msu.edu> Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp11 Subject: Parts Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:37:03 -0500 Message-ID: <cmr69e$27er$1(a)msunews.cl.msu.edu> Greetings from Michigan State University I've got the following group of stuff set to go to salvage and have no idea of the value (if any) that they have anymore. Any information would be appreciated. DEC PDP 11/93 - RSX11M+ TK-50 TAPE DRIVE (1) MAXTOR RD-54 DRIVES (2) M3106 - 4 LINE ASYNC CARD (2) M3107 - DHQ11-M ASYNC MUX (1) M7516 - Q-BUS TO ETHERNET ADAPTOR (1) M7555 - RD DISK CONT BD F4/D1,DUAL (1) M8991 (1) M9058 - RQDX2,3 CABLE PADDLE CARD (1) M9401 - GRANT CONTINUITY CARD (3) DEC PDP 11/83 - RSX11M+ TK-50 TAPE DRIVE (1) MAXTOR RD-54 DRIVES (2) M3106 - 4 LINE ASYNC CARD (2) M3107 - DHQ11-M ASYNC MUX (2) M7516 - Q-BUS TO ETHERNET ADAPTOR (1) M7555 - RD DISK CONT BD F4/D1,DUAL (1) M9058 - RQDX2,3 CABLE PADDLE CARD (1) DEC VAXStation II MAXTOR RD-53 DRIVES (2) M3106 - 4 LINE ASYNC CARD (2) M7504 - DEQN-M Q-BUS ETHERNET CARD (1) M7555 - RD DISK CONT BD F4/D1,DUAL (1) M8027 - LPV11 PRINTER CONTROLLER (1) M9058 - RQDX2,3 CABLE PADDLE CARD (1) EMULEX TC0210201-FSH - TAPE CONTROLLER EMULEX SC0310201-BXF - DISK CONTROLLER MISCELLANEOUS DEC H3104 - 36-PIN TO 8 MMJ PORTS (3) DECXM-M.D01 - AUI X BNC THINWIRE MAU (2) DEC BNE40=02 - 2M E-NET/IEEE 802 NI CABLE (2) DEC H8571-C - MMJ-RS232 ADAPTER (3) DEC H8571-D - MMJ-RS232 ADAPTER (2) DEC H8575-B - DB9F / MMJ ADAPTER (7) EMU-TEK - REVs 3.0A and 3.0B (1ea) VT520-A4 TERMINAL (1) BLACK BOX 4-1 RS-232 SWITCH (DB25) BLACK BOX 6-1 RS-232 SWITCH (DB25) Thanks... Todd Wilson HVAC Services - Michigan State University -- second forwarded message -- From: Todd Wilson <wilsonto(a)msu.edu> Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp11 Subject: Re: Parts Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:05:27 -0500 Message-ID: <cmt06p$npl$1(a)msunews.cl.msu.edu> I should clarify... These systems are to be sent to salvage complete, and I don't intend to part them out. Of the miscellaneous parts, the H3104s go with the PDPs (2 with the 11/83, 1 with the 11/93). The MAUs and NI cables were a DECNet interface between the two PDPs. 232-MMJ adapters, I have a bunch of generics (bought from Black-Box) along with the actual DEC ones listed. I also have quite a bit of documentation with the PDPs. The VaxStation was procured as a parts machine since it is also QBus and PDP parts were becoming scarce(though we never used it as such). My hope is to generate some interest in them so that someone will buy them through salvage rather than sending them to the crusher. The last unit I sent to salvage was an 11/24, 5 full enclosures, 9 RA-81 disk drives, 1 RA-80, 2 RLO2, and about (literally) 30 RLO2 Pacs. All were crushed due to lack of interest. When I send this group of items to salvage, it will include some LA100 and 120 printers and stands, an RLO2 Diagnostic Pac (RSX11M), and I think I have 2 or three more VTs (if memory serves, VT320s). I might have 1 more RA80 also. My intent is to post back here with details on how to purchase the items through salvage when I send them (within the next week or two). Many have offered EBay as an option, but our equipment transfer rules do not permit direct sale of University owned items. All inventoried materials must be transferred to Salvage for release from the University. If anyone need to contact me about them, I can be reached at Direct Line: (517)432-0533 Email: tdwilson(a)pplant.msu.edu Thanks Todd Wilson

21 years, 9 months

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Classic Mac Gurus! - Tell me please

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Mines a A9M106, and seems to be compatible with my Mac Classic, That is >if my >mac classic can grok an 800K drive. Yes, the classic can handle an 800k drive. Support for the 800k disks was dropped I believe in software, not hardware sometime around OS 8.?? Any Mac that has a floppy port should be able to work with an 800k drive, with the exception of possibly the 128k (the 512 needs the "Init 20" init to use an 800k drive, that same init may work with the 128. I have a feeling I've used it to add an HD20 to the 128 in the past, but I can't be sure, and I've seen reports that the HD20 does NOT work with the 128... if the reports are right, and I'm wrong, then the 128 should also fail to use an 800k drive for the same lack of HFS support reason) The Classic will work just fine with an 800k drive. The harder part will be finding 800k disks! (you can't reliably use HD disks as 800k. It will work, but not for long) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 9 months

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Classic Mac Gurus! - Tell me please

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Can an Apple II 3 1/2 drive be attached to the floppy port >of a Mac Classic II? > >Can this damage my Mac Classic II? > >I am currently running system 7.1 > > > >I think it's an 800K drive. It depends on the drive. Some were compatible between the two lines, others would fry the drive controller. If you do a search on the actual drive part number, that should give you the answers you seek. This web site may be all you need to find your drive and if it will work with both <http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/drives.html> -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 9 months

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Classic Mac Gurus! - Tell me please

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

Can an Apple II 3 1/2 drive be attached to the floppy port of a Mac Classic II? Can this damage my Mac Classic II? I am currently running system 7.1 I think it's an 800K drive.

21 years, 9 months

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Xerox GUI on a PC???

by mross666＠hotmail.com

>Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 02:58:10 +0000 >From: cvendel(a)att.net >Subject: Xerox GUI on a PC??? >Is there a PD program that can be downloaded to run a PC to give it the >look & >feel of the original Xerox Altos or Star 8010 ??? Yes. GVWin. It's not entirely PD - mostly obsolete abandonware as far as I understand. Get it here: http://www.corestore.org/gvwin21.zip There's another implementation - GVX - which does the same job under X on SunOS and (I think) AIX. But it's a bugger to configure! Mike http://www.corestore.org

21 years, 9 months

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PDP-11/73 questions

by drb＠msu.edu

I found an OEM 11/73 at Salvage this morning. It was built by Netcom. I'm trying to identify a few boards that are in it. Wonder if anyone can help? There's a pair of double-width boards marked KHV1, one says "COMMS CHIPCARD", the other says "DMA CARD". The boards are connected by a wide ribbon cable. The latter has a handwritten tape label which says "Modified 422 / DTR tied active / provides xmit clks". I take this to mean this is some type of RS-422 interface, but can't find any notes about it online. The other item (two of them, actually, identical) has virtually no identifying markings. It's a quad width board, marked "(C) Orange, CA 92665". The reverse has a small icon of a whale, and says "MOEBI QUICK". There may be text under then handles, but they're essentially riveted onto the board. In the center of the back edge of the board, there's a wide ribbon cable connector. Multiport serial boards perhaps? I believe this was probably a Merit SCP machine (node CES1), for anyone who was around educational networking in Michigan over 15 years ago. There's a board in the machine which is definitely a custom item, marked "MFV (C) 1984 UMNET", which I'm sure was developed by the U of Michigan/Merit folks. The latter appears to have its own processor, EPROMs, etc. The other boards in the machine are the CPU, and a DEC 128k RAM board. Images (warning: LARGE, about 3 MB each) are at: http://yagi.h-net.msu.edu/img_1282.jpg (quad board) http://yagi.h-net.msu.edu/img_1284.jpg (double board, COMMS) http://yagi.h-net.msu.edu/img_1286.jpg (double board, DMA) Any assistance would be much appreciated. Dennis Boone

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HP2100/HP1000

by aek＠spies.com

> Same goes for (HP) Apollo Domain/OS ... 10.4 is taken care of. Hopefully someone is taking care of the earlier cart and floppy versions. I've been bugging the person who was working on the NetBSD port to the DN3/4xxx series for the hardware info he was able to find but he's stopped replying to emails. Finding hardware info would be a good thing to archive as well. I'm still trying to find a Tek 8550 or DOS/50 software, or the distrib/diag floppies for the 856x

21 years, 9 months

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"Eagle" CPM machine, all-in-one, w/manuals needs a home

by I.Savvidis＠cmc.ase.gr

Hi Bill. I'd be interested if it's still available. Kind regards, John -----Original Message----- From: Bill Pileggi [mailto:wpileggi@juno.com] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 5:58 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: "Eagle" CPM machine, all-in-one, w/manuals needs a home A friend has an Eagle all-in-one machine that runs CPM. 8080 or Z-80, 64K RAM, 2 floppy disk drives. 1 original, 1 copy of manual. Software? Sort of resembles Radio Shack model 3 - monitor, keyboard and drives all in one case. Working status unknown - I only read through the manual - it's in his storage room. Located in PA. 19001 weight ~30 pounds? Bill ________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/ month - visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today!

21 years, 9 months

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looking for Print set for a DEC TE-16 tape drive

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Check here: http://www.mainecoon.com/classiccmp/TE16/ These files are multi-page TIF format. You can read these TIF files with the "Kodak Imaging" viewer available in Windows 9x .... Click Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> Imaging (IIRC). I have scanned these TIFs, but have sent CD-ROMs to a few people on this list. They said that they would convert them into PDF files. *If* that is done, you might get an other link to the PDF versions. - Henk, PA8PDP. > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of g-wright(a)att.net > Sent: woensdag 10 november 2004 2:04 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: looking for Print set for a DEC TE-16 tape drive > > Hi all > > Does anyone have one of these or know a web source. > any version. > > I'm still looking for PDP 11/60 Processor manuals also. > > Thanks, Jerry

21 years, 9 months

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VCF weekend in the Midwest

by dan＠ekoan.com

While many of you were enjoying the sights and sounds at VCF this weekend, I was driving a cargo van to pick up equipment from various places in the Midwest. First was a rescue in Indiana that Jack Rubin mentioned on the list. The owner reported some DEC equipment in his warehouse that needed to be hauled away before the building was demolished. It turns out that the warehouse is a huge condemned building that has a leaky and collapsing roof, is without heat or electric power, and is located in an, um, "socio-economically challenged" neighborhood. From there I pulled out two racks: one with a DEC 11/34 and another with some distribution panels. The third rack, with a tape drive, was too heavy for just the warehouse owner and me to load into the van. From that setup I also left behind two RP06 disk drives. In another part of the warehouse was another set of three racks -- a PDP 8/e and three RK05 drives. We pulled the CPU and left the rest. I also pulled out two VT52s and two VT100s, along with some RSTS manuals and magtapes. I left behind half a dozen DECwriter printing terminals. Before anyone gets too excited about what's left, be aware that this stuff is not in very good condition. The warehouse roof is in poor condition and the building is very drafty. Everything was dirty, damp to the touch and rusting. None of the equipment is anywhere near working condition -- it's been sitting there for at least 10 years, suffering the ravages of weather, temperature extremes and rodents. Second rescue was from an electronics surplus place about two hours drive from the first warehouse. From there I pulled a MicroPDP-11, an RX02, a MINC-23 on a rolling cart, a DEC GIGI, an Osborne luggable and a TI Silent 700. I know the last two items got wet, but the others look in much better shape than the equipment from the first warehouse. Photos upon request. Third rescue, to me, was the best: I now have a working Hewlett-Packard 9831A desktop computer. This machine uses the BASIC language, has a single-line LED display and accepts most of the 9825 interfaces. I know Tony has one of these, but I'm not sure if anyone else does. They only appeared in the HP catalog for one year and are extremely uncommon. I wrote a bunch of software on these computers for an HP VAR in 1981 or so, but I haven't seen a 9831 since then. The machine I have now even has the floppy drive ROM cartridge, so I can hook up eight-inch disc drives (9885M plus up to three 9885S) to it as well. So, while hunting mainly for HP gear, in the last few months I've ended up with the following DEC CPUs: PDP 8/A PDP 8/e MicroPDP-11 (two) PDP 11/34 GIGI The earliest DEC machine I ever used was an 11/70, so I may be looking for help in the future to try and restore these machines to operation. Cheers, Dan

21 years, 9 months

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HP2100/HP1000

by gksloane＠hotmail.com

I'm looking for an HP2100/A, 2100/S, or 2100/MX. I have HP 1000/F (aka the 2117) to trade - know anyone interested? There's a picture of one of my 2117s attached; I also have one listed on eBay right now... Gary

21 years, 9 months

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Intellec 4 manuals

by JMeyer101＠aol.com

A couple months ago I picked up a copy of a copy of a "preliminary edition" of the Intellec 4 manual. This copy is dated 1973. Unfortunately, it is missing two pages and two pages are really hard to read. The missing pages are 5-5 and 5-6 (I believe they are front and back of one sheet). The hard to read pages are 5-8, and 3-18. If anyone out there has a manual and can make a copy of the pages, I'd really appreciate it. I would be happy to pay for reproduction costs and mailing costs (a scan of the pages and emailing would be even better). Thanks, Jeff

21 years, 9 months

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Looking for large number of recent manuals ($$$)

by vcf＠siconic.com

I haven't posted a bounty in a while, so here's a big list of manuals I am in need of for a client. I'll pay $10 each plus postage. Please contact me directly if you have any at <sellam(a)vintagetech.com>. Thanks! 1) AG Group, Inc. "WatchPoint 1.0 Manual," May 1999. 2) Check Point Software Technologies Ltd., "Check Point FireWall - Technical Overview, Version 4.0," April 1999. 3) Cisco Systems, Inc., "FlowCollector Overview, Chapter 2," undated. 4) Cisco Systems, Inc., NetFlow FlowCollector Overview, Chapter 1," undated. 5) Cisco Systems, Inc. Overview of the NetFlow Analyzer," Copyright 1989-1998 6) Cisco Systems, Inc. "Release Notes for NetFlow FlowCollector, Release 1.0" September 1997. 7) Cisco Systems, Inc. "Using the FlowAnalyzer Display Module, Chapter 3," undated 8) NetScout Systems, Inc. "NetScout Intelligent Probes, End-to-End Monitoring of LANs, WANs, and Switched LANs for Distributed Networks," Copyright 1997 9) Network Associates, Inc. "SnifferPRO 98 by Network Associates, Expert Network Analysis for Optimal PErformance," Copyright 1998. 10) Network General, "Expert Sniffer Network Analyzer Operations, Release 4.5," pp. 1-3 through 1-7, 7-3 through 7-26, 6-62 through 6-75, Jan. 1995 11) Network General Corporation, "Managing WAN Technologies for Maximum Internetwork Performance, a Network Visibility Guide," Copyright 1996 12) Network General Corporation, "An Introduction to the Total Network Visibility Architecture, a Network Visibility Guide," Copyright 1995. 13) Novel NetWare, Network Computer Products, "LANalyzer for Windows 2.1 User's Guide, Chapter 5," pp. 75-103, March 1994. 14) Precision Guesswork Product Page: "LANWatch 32 Network Analyzer For Windows 95/NT, Unlocking the Complexity of Network Analysis," June 4, 1998 Update. 15) "Sniffer Network Analyzer Ethernet - Seven-layer expert analysis of 10/100 Mbps Ethernet segments," Network Associates, Inc. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

21 years, 9 months

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AT&T XPC Tutor?

by vcf＠siconic.com

One of the very few goodies (I rarely partake in the stuff that comes through the VCF, preferring the attendees to get the good scores, if they can get to it before Hans) I ended up with from the VCF (thanks, Stan!) is an AT&T "XPC Tutor". It's basically a microprocessor trainer of some sort, circa 1986. The main CPU(?) inside is a very odd chip labeled thusly: AT&T M T7102-NC 11 86 77 I thought at first this must be a Hobbit chip but it's too early (assuming "11 86" is the date code, which would seem likely based on the date codes of all the other ICs) and nothing comes back from Google. Does anyone have any idea what this might be? The other interesting thing about this trainer is that it has a 6809 in the middle of the PCB, and it has 6 serial ports (or at least 6 DB25 connectors with several wignal lines each) poking out the back. I'll post a picture if it'll help jog a memory. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

21 years, 9 months

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Replacing an A2000 battery

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

Hi Bryan, >This one doesn't boot up. :( It starts up for a little bit, then the power >light flashes a # of times. I have googled for POST error messages but >could not find out what this meant. Go here: http://www.programmersheaven.com/zone20/cat268/3369.htm And download HARDWARE.ZIP - this contains HARDWARE.TIP which is a large text file that contains a lot of information about the startup LED flashes and screen colors. Regards, -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

21 years, 9 months

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Sony floppy drive

by malihie＠yahoo.ca

Hello M Duell, I have problem with my Floppy drive: Sony, Model MP-F52W-00D, This floppy drive is connecting to our machine (not PC). What model it is possible to replace by? Is it possible to use the new floppy drive 1.44? How? Thanks for your advice Best Regards, Mostapha.. --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

21 years, 9 months

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looking for Print set for a DEC TE-16 tape drive

by g-wright＠att.net

Hi all Does anyone have one of these or know a web source. any version. I'm still looking for PDP 11/60 Processor manuals also. Thanks, Jerry

21 years, 9 months

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Nuclear Data minicomputer & more!

by purchasing＠bouldersecuritycenter.com

Hi Tom; Do you still have the mini computer and is it for sale. my email is : Geist1122@ Juno.com Thanks Marty Geist

21 years, 9 months

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Bus(s) description website.

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I found this while prowling the net. <http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_Other_Buses.html> It looks useful. Joe

21 years, 9 months

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VCF 7.0 Pictures

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

Hello all, I've just posted pictures from VCF 7.0 on my website. The page isn't done yet as I've got to add descriptions to the images (should take a few days), but the pictures themselves are there if you'd like to take a look. http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcf7.shtml Please let me know if you have anything special you'd like me to mention about any of the pictures (links, names, description, etc.) or if you'd like me to email you high rez copies of anything. Thanks! -- Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum The Vintage Computer Forum

21 years, 9 months

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varian boards

by aek＠spies.com

>I have the following circuit boards for a varian data Machines, and would like to know what each board is This is pretty much a complete set for a 620i I have a copy of Vol 1 of the maint manual, which doesn't incl the schems. DM 103 matrix decoder 104 memory driver 106 memory timing & ctl 108 register card 109 processor control 1 110 processor control 2 111 processor control 3 112 processor control 4 113 teletype control 119 memory data card 120 ? 121 interrrupt trap 122 mul/div extd adr 123 pwr fail /restart 124 pri intr module 126 ? the name of the card should be on the etch

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VCF weekend in the Midwest

by aek＠spies.com

> We pulled the CPU and left the rest. -- Hopefully, you took the cable that was connecting the 8/E to the first RK05. It is a very difficult to find part, second only to the cable that goes from a TD8E to a TU56. d

21 years, 9 months

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Der Mouse success with Altair cassette audio

by cswiger＠widomaker.com

Gang - Hats off to Der Mouse for coming up with working code that can convert a wav audio file to data. It imported into simh/altairZ80 via the PTR device and saved onto an mbasic boot disk just fine and so far runs. 22 Years ago I had to massage the TRS/80 basic code to get it to work on MITS 8K basic and thankfully didn't have to do it all over again! A fun adventure game (Altair flavor) saved. --Chuck

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MORE Multibus!!1

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Yesterday I went back to the place where I found the two Flexowriters to see if I could fin ANY more parts for them. (Found one tape reel that mounts on the back of the Flexowriter. I didn't even know that they used one.) I was just there a few days ago but I took a good look around anyway. I found an intel Multibus chassis, about a dozen more cards including two bubble memory cards, FIVE Intel 86/380 computers (three are complete and supposed to be operable) and some kind of rackmount industrial computer with Multibus cards. I'm being deluged with Mulktibus stuff lately! Joe

21 years, 9 months

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varian boards

by geist1122＠juno.com

Hi; I have the following circuit boards for a varian data Machines, and would like to know what each board is -- and what it does -- and what computer they go in (model) like a 620 or what ???? DM 103 -- CORE bOARD i HAVE 2 DM 104 5 DM 106 2 DM 108 3 DM 109 1 DM 111 1 DM 112 1 DM 113 1 DM 119 9 DM 120 1 DM 121 1 DM 122 1 DM 123 1 DM 124 2 DM 126 2 Thanks Marty Geist, my email address is --- geist1122(a)juno.com ________________________________________________________________ Juno Platinum $9.95. Juno SpeedBand $14.95. Sign up for Juno Today at http://www.juno.com! Look for special offers at Best Buy stores.

21 years, 9 months

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Programming 1702 EPROMs, ProLog Programmer question

by fgoering＠charter.net

Hi Joe, doyou still have a manual on the pro-log 980. i need a copy, let me know, Frank

21 years, 9 months

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How to home make a battery for HP25/c/21

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

1. Obtain radio shack part numbers 23-149 1000mAh Nicad Batteries (2), 270-382A 2 cell AA battery holder. 2. Snip off the snap end, the plastic is a little brittle, so I used Diagonal Cutters to cut it off right where the flat plastic that holds the snaps 3 Snip off the spring from the snap part and place it in the bottom of the cell holder. 4 Install the two NiCad batteries one with positive showing, one with negative showing 5 Insert the assembly into the back of the calculator, you will have to compress the springs to get it to fit. The positive battery should touch the left terminal in the calculator as you are holding the calculator with the terminals up (upside-down), viewing the back. I use a slip of cardboard to close the back cut into a rectangle with one tab on one side and 2 tabs that fit into the slots on the calculator. An X-Creditcard or somthing of that same thickness would work better.

21 years, 9 months

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More Items for Museum

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Picked up the following items on Saturday (11/6) and it was a lot of work for two old men as this System/34 is big and heavy. IBM System/34 5340, IBM 5211-2 High Speed Printer 5211, MAI/IBM 548 Punch card Interpreter with one programming board, 3-IBM 5251 Terminals, 2-IBM Keyboards, 44-Manuals, 11-8" Diskettes with Diagnostic on them, Datacard cabinet with several card decks inside (compilers, programs, etc.)

21 years, 9 months

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mailing list traffic stats

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

JOOI, are the traffic stats for classiccmp online anywhere? List traffic seems to be unusually low the last few days, and for a few weeks before that I'd been getting some messages anything up to a week late (although I think the latter's probably due to the disk problems in the classiccmp server). Be nice if I could crossref how many posts classiccmp thinks it's sent out to how many I've actually received here, just to check I'm not losing mail (I'm just not sure how much faith I have in yahoo, it being a free service!) cheers Jules

21 years, 9 months

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To Alex W.

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

FYI email's still broken matey - I just got a bounce back from my response to your earlier request for a test :-( New DNS provider time for ya, I reckon! (Apologies to everyone else for the OT!) -- "We've had a lot of loonies around this place, but you're the first one who thought the sunrise was made out of stale beer. Now are you going to pick up your flute and leave, or shall I part your hair with this crowbar?"

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Big scratch in CRT fix?

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

I just got a nice Mac Classic II, but it has a 1 1/2 " (inch!) scratch in the front of the CRT. I can't tell how deep the scratch is, but a finger nail catches there. Does anyone know what can be done to fix a bad scratch like that? Am I in any real danger of the CRT imploding? Someone suggested toothpaste (the white kind) any comments?

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Need a battery or Batteryholder...

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

For an HP 21/25/25C anybody got a spare? I don't care if the included ni-cad batterys are leaky I know how to fix that.

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Replacing an A2000 battery

by bpope＠wordstock.com

I am currently in the process of replacing my Amiga 2000's battery... On the one I was finally able to remove there *seems* to be some damage to the circuit board that was underneath and nearing the 68000. Instead of the circuits being a nice green colour, it is now black. Is there any way to tell if this is only a colour change? Also, it looks like some of the copper has been eaten away around where the negative part of the battery was soldered to the motherboard. I have cleaned all of the white crap off with vinegar and a toothbrush. I then used "Precision Electronics Cleaner" from RS which is _supposed_ to leave no residue. Also, how are the solder tabs affixed to the battery? The replacement batteries I got don't have any. Cheers, Bryan Pope

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asset management - help :-)

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

I know some of you on this list work for various museums, or have extensive enough collections that a proper asset management system might be needed :-) I've been working on one for the museum here for a while, with the goal of making it easy to add information (so that museum staff aren't tempted to not bother!) and easy to search / browse in a useful way. (Heck knows we need a proper centralised 'list'!) I've pretty much figured out what data's useful to capture, and how a UI might work from the point of view of different user roles (maintenance / administration / browsing etc.) What I'm puzzling over is how to record any relationship between hardware / software / documentation, or even to what extent any relationship needs to be recorded. Thoughts on this would be most appreciated, and I wonder what other museums do... As an example, say we're given a Sinclair machine with some tape software and some manuals. Obviously the machine needs an asset sticker plonked on it and its details stuck in the register. The docs and software also need recording in a DB somewhere such that we know what software we have, and that we have x copies of such-and-such a doc (we'd like to have a public-access library on site, and even lend docs out to trusted people when possible) Question is, do we link the docs and software to that particular machine, or is it better to just put those in essentially isolated databases and recording that they're for such-and-such a model of machine? And what's best for the odds and ends - power supplies, leads, packaging etc.? Do they warrant recording / tagging somehow? And as for what to do with donations of bits I don't know (e.g. when someone gives us a stack of random DEC boards) It gets to be a little more complex than a traditional museum where there's a collection of distinct items - in this case there's a big collection of stuff with a lot of interchangability (if that's a word) between components, and so managing it all is something of a total nightmare! Maybe the idea of knowing exactly what we have at any one time is impossible - but that's a shame if we've got some redundant bit of hardware lurking in storage which we could donate to someone else who desperately needed it to restore a system. Ideas and comments would be *very* much appreciated! cheers Jules

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asset management - help :-)

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 19:29 +0000, Alex White wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Jules Richardson wrote: > > > On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 16:47 +0000, Alex White wrote: > > > Want me to diagram it in UML? > > > > UML diag could be useful just to capture your thoughts, if it's a quick > > job for you. > > http://www.microvax.org/~melt/computers/computerMuseum.png grabbed a local copy - thanks :) Will take a proper look in a mo... > I used qSEE Superlite if you want to grab the .qsee file from that > directory. Free (0 quid) for noncommercial use, will generate ugly XML and > Java from UML. rats - no Windows around here :-) > > I can't mail you privately by the way - NTL's bouncing the message with > > a 'microvax.org not found' error, although it resolves via ping OK. > > Dodgy MX record somewhere? > > Strange. I'm logged into mail.microvax.org right now in Pine and > everything else is coming through fine. Maybe it's because i'm on an NTL > residential line myself (yes, i'm breaking one of my own cardinal rules > about hosting an email server on a residential line but it's for my own > use only, and I can't afford any better right now). Strange stuff, though. > Have poked my unreliable nameservice provider. Hmm, I run my mail using the same setup; I send outgoing mail via a local running sendmail and then to NTL's mailserver(s) though - the NTL server's a smart relay host in my local sendmail config. *very* occasionally I'll find I can't mail someone because their ISP detects that the mail originated from a machine within a dynamic address range, but by very occasionally I mean once every 6 months or so. And that's me sending out from here anyway, not receiving. I've never seen this problem before though; I rather suspect it was just NTL's systems having a total spaz. If I remember (or prod me!) I'll see you a test msg tomorrow and see if that goes through... FWIW, yahoo's junk filter is flagging your messages as spam, so it thinks something is up too (unfortunately it isn't useful enough to tell me *why* it thinks it's spam) cheers Jules

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garagesale

by newcomer＠c64.rulez.org

Zsibvasar / GARAGE SALE !!! I'm from Hungary, you can contact me at <hoild(a)amiga.hu> or via the mailing list. Shipping to abroad is manageable, however, as I'm in central europe, shipping to asia or the US can get somewhat difficult. The following items are for sale (or perhaps exchange, if you got something I might want): CISCO console cables, RJ-45 to RJ-45, RJ-45 to Dsub9, even a few adapters, bleeh... DEC Alpha soundport , part no.: #5424572 (has audio I/O jacks, TDA1517 amp, and slot for Hw wavetable module). DEC Alpha Eth 10/100 module, part no.: #5424560 (has DP83840 and DP83223 xceiver, and UTP jack). IBM frame buffer cable, part no.: "58F2903". 2 pcs. of B.A.T.M. BNC/m to RJ45/fm coax baluns, , part no.: "BMC-9303". 2 pcs. of AMPHENOL BNC/m to RJ45/fm balun, part no.: "555058-1". SINIX keyboard adapter cable, part no.: "T26139-Y2370-V701 GSO2 GTL". SUN serial cable, part no.: "530-1662-01 REV-52 0843-9113". SUN serial cable, part no.: "530-1662-01 REV.50 0843-9024". SCSI stuff Sort of anything SCSI -- the list goes: 68pin UW SCSI mobile rack, brand new condition, still in packaging, by ViPower. 4 pcs. of LVD-capable 68 pin to SCA adapters (BEWARE - salvaged from IBM RS6000 hot-swap racks, might or might not be standard wide2SCA, seems to be std. enough, though). 2 pcs. of IBM RS6000 hot-swap Wide SCSI racks, 3 HDD/rack, part no.: "61G3842", plus a weird wide SCSI to ??? twisted-pair cable and a power distributor cable. Might be HVD equipment? Wide to SCA adapter "XPL-065B v1.1", brand new, seems to be SE-only. Wide and narrow to SCA adapter "XPL-065-C v1.0", brand new, seems to be SE-only. Internal to external narrow SCSI port w./ Dsub25F ext. connector. Internal to external narrow Fast narrow SCSI port w./ HDsub50M ext. connector. Internal to external SE wide SCSI port with 30 cm long cable. Wide SCSI to "Centronics" adapter with active negation, brand new. External narrow SCSI HDsub50m to ??? (looks like a half-size Centronics, definitely not the sub-mini "SUN" connector), brand new. External narrow SCSI cable HDsub50M to Centronics M. External narrow SCSI cable Centronics M to Centronics M. External narrow SCSI cable Dsub25M to Centronics M. 2 pcs. of External narrow SCSI cable Dsub25M to Dsub25M, brand new, IOMEGA brand, from ZIP drives. 160cm long narrow SCSI 'RAID' cable, 8 heads + active terminator. Apple stuff ADB expander, miniDIN4M to miniDIN4M, 120cm long spiralled cable(160cm max length). Mac to Sync-on-Green BNC display adapter-cable by FORMAC. Mac to VGA adapter "MG65PMA", with display sense bit switches, I even have the docs. Exotic keyboards Left-handed (kinda 'reversed') keyboard for ppl who like challenges, high-quality mechanism, p/s2 compatible, practically brand new, .de layout, NO WINDOWS KEYS! If I don't sell it, I might even consider swapping the keycaps to Dvorak layout (this keyboard is freakish enough by default, though). "Type 5" SUN-compatible keyboard made by Solbourne Computer in Japan for their SUN clones, US layout, good working condition, has both RJ-11 and miniDIN connectors. SC assembled this keyboard in a smaller and more compact case than genuine SUN-made Type5s, and for a time I was considering to build the MCU-based p/s2 adapter I found online to be able to use this nice keyboard with my thin client. Bull Questar 303 keyboard, part no.: KBU 3031, US layout. INTERGRAPH keyboard with RJ-11 jack, US layout. RAM *A buddy of mine has about 6 pieces of 64MB 60ns 72pin FPM w. parity SIMMs for sale. All these SIMMs came from HP 9000 boxes, and are BIG double-height bastards. *I am looking for a 32MB 5V buffered ECC EDO DIMM, preferably of part no.: "HP XU6/200 3554B", for my ProLiant 6500 quad PPro box -- this box uses 4-way interleaved memory and I have but 11 pcs., so I can't install the 3rd bank of RAM. Please tell me IF you can help. 2 pcs. of 16MB 5V buffered 60ns NP EDO DIMMs, IBM part no.: "92G7334". One 16MB 5V buffered 60ns ECC DIMM, HP part no.: "1818-6485" IEEE-488 stuff Amazing range of IEEE-488 stuff, price varies (ie. what you got in exchange?) Physical interface adapters to/from different IEEE-488 aka GPIB alias HP-IB connector standards, like IEC-625 <-> ANSI MC 1.1, gender changers, whatever, several still in factory packaging. Cables, extender cables, "hub" cables and adapter cables. Ask. Also an Addonics IND-311 (ISA) host card w. mint condition manual. PeeCee junk A fat dozen ISA cards and some PCI ones. NICs (Eth and TokenRing), I/O, VGA, VGA+EGA, CGA, ASUS SuperMulti VLB card with IDE + SVGA + i/o ports, like-brand-new 120 MB Maxtor PIO Mode-0 HDD (from a factory sealed ESCOM 386 PC I found and salvaged). Voodoo3 3000 PCI. SIGMA "REALmagic" DVD/home-theater card, compatible with 'libDXR3' in linux, supported by mplayer and xine -- provides accelerated video post-processing + AAC playback in Hw + a generic '/dev/pcm' soundport with analogue and digital (coax) sound outputs in a single PCI slot. That's all! Hoild^UNC http://www.newcomer.hu

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[Bulk] Re: asset management - help :-)

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 16:47 +0000, Alex White wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Jules Richardson wrote: > > > What I'm puzzling over is how to record any relationship between > > hardware / software / documentation, or even to what extent any > > relationship needs to be recorded. Thoughts on this would be most > > appreciated, and I wonder what other museums do... > > > > Question is, do we link the docs and software to that particular > > machine, or is it better to just put those in essentially isolated > > databases and recording that they're for such-and-such a model of > > machine? > > Record make and model that the main machine itself, docco, boards etc > apply to and also record an overall asset ID for the entire shipment > itself which links into a seperate table for information about who, > where, history of etc a shipment (machine, some manuals and a few tapes) > came from. > > Manuals and bits can float around in the collection but can be tracked > back together as a complete "gift" from a person. > > Want me to diagram it in UML? UML diag could be useful just to capture your thoughts, if it's a quick job for you. I can't mail you privately by the way - NTL's bouncing the message with a 'microvax.org not found' error, although it resolves via ping OK. Dodgy MX record somewhere? cheers Jules

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DD 5.25" floppies available

by rich_bramante＠yahoo.com

I just came into a rather load of several hundred used 5.25" DD floppies. There is no way I want to hoard them all. It is a mixed bag of SS, DS, 48 TPI, 96 TPI, brand names, generics, unlabelled, some have been double-notched, etc. There are also some boxes of new disks still in shrinkwarp (3M mostly. Some Kodak). Most seem to have been Apple II and C64 stuff. Anyway, if your in the market for a fairly good sized lot (say 50+) of untested disks cheap, drop me a line. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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OT (probably): HP T500, HPUX and multiple CPUs

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Actually I'm not quite sure how old the machine is - maybe it is ten years old now and so on topic just... Anyhow, are there any experts out there who know if a specific version of HPUX is needed to run with SMP support on an HP 9000 T500? We've got a 6-CPU T500 at the museum with HPUX 11.xx on it, but according to the status LEDs it's just running everything on the one CPU with the other 5 sitting idle. Possibilities that spring to mind: a) as above, it's a version / installation issue b) it's a licensing thing and there's no way of using standard HPUX media on a multi-CPU machine without paying HP lots of money (boo!) c) the machine or HPUX is a bit funny in the way it handles multiple CPUs and we need force processes to run on a specific CPU via some command, rather than it being transparently handled by the CPU d) user stupidity (none of us really know much about the machine and nor are we HPUX experts) Option d would probably be preferable - we can always learn :) Option b's obviously the least desirable and would result in us looking at Linux for the machine I think! Anyone worked with these beasts before and know offhand what the problem might be? (we've got HPUX 11 media by the way; but as stated maybe not a version that's truly compatible with a multi-CPU machine) Being able to force stuff to run on a specific CPU from a shell would actually be beneficial, as I have an idea to do a bit of distributed raytracing on the machine for giggles (6 CPUs is good, but 90MHz each IIRC is less so :-) ta Jules

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Sony SMC-70

by allan.valvano＠paymedia.net

Jeff - Do you still have these computers? Allan Valvano

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Calculator prices for insurance

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Does anyone know of any online resources containing rough prices for mechanical and early electronic calculators? I need to sort out some insurance details for some of the museum collection, and whilst I can come up with ballpark figures for the big iron and ebay's a good source for prices for common 8 bitters, it doesn't help for some of the early (and rare) mechanical / electronic calculators. Are there any good online resources out there, even if prices are a little out of date? (In particular I'd like to put a value on some of our Sumlock and Anita stuff) Out of interest, my general insurance thoughts are: The insurance value should really cover the costs of finding something of similar "value" in the event of a lost item being unobtainable. So it needs to cover purchase cost, shipping cost, additional purchase of any manuals/docs/software as necessary, and of someone's time to commission the item and learn how it works. In other words, it's more than the simple "but it on ebay" value. Thoughts, anyone? cheers Jules -- "We've had a lot of loonies around this place, but you're the first one who thought the sunrise was made out of stale beer. Now are you going to pick up your flute and leave, or shall I part your hair with this crowbar?"

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