1 Nov
2004
1 Nov
'04
11:34 p.m.
Equipment just saw outside at a surplus dealer:
2 Xerox 820's of some type,
1 DEC Minc-11,
1 DEC PDP-11/73,
1 Osborne-1,
1 DEC Gi-Gi,
4 Wang MVPs with Terminals and Peripherals.
No connection to dealer.
Contact:
Pembelton Electronics, Inc.
Ft Wayne, IN 46808
(260) 484-1812
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2 Nov
2 Nov
1:02 a.m.
Equipment just saw outside at a surplus dealer:
2 Xerox 820's of some type,
1 DEC Minc-11,
1 DEC PDP-11/73,
1 Osborne-1,
1 DEC Gi-Gi,
4 Wang MVPs with Terminals and Peripherals.
Oh, now that hurts! I hope someone can at least grab the DEC HW!
Especially the Gi-Gi, and MINC!
Zane
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2:16 a.m.
On Nov 2, 2004, at 7:02 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
What's a Gi-Gi? I googled but all I got was a bunch of italian sites.
Equipment just
saw outside at a surplus dealer:
2 Xerox 820's of some type,
1 DEC Minc-11,
1 DEC PDP-11/73,
1 Osborne-1,
1 DEC Gi-Gi,
4 Wang MVPs with Terminals and Peripherals.
Oh, now that hurts! I hope someone can at least grab the DEC HW!
Especially the Gi-Gi, and MINC!
Zane
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| healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
2:24 a.m.
On Tuesday 02 November 2004 11:16, Ron Hudson wrote:
On Nov 2, 2004, at 7:02 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
What's a Gi-Gi? I googled but all I got was a bunch of italian
sites.
A picture (courtesy of google):
http://www.cis.rit.edu/~jerry/Hardware/museum/pics/Gigi.jpg
Basically DEC's version of an Apple ][ / C64, with 8-color graphics (at
NTSC compatible frame rates), that had a built-in copy of BASIC and a
color terminal emulator. Neat little boxes, I've got one laying around
that I ran across the other day.
Pat
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Equipment
just saw outside at a surplus dealer:
2 Xerox 820's of some type,
1 DEC Minc-11,
1 DEC PDP-11/73,
1 Osborne-1,
1 DEC Gi-Gi,
4 Wang MVPs with Terminals and Peripherals.
Oh, now that hurts! I hope someone can at least grab the DEC HW!
Especially the Gi-Gi, and MINC! 
2:50 a.m.
On Nov 2, 2004, at 8:24 AM, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
On Tuesday 02 November 2004 11:16, Ron Hudson wrote:
Looks like they had some extra VT100 keyboards and asked themselves
"what are we
gonna do with these?"
Is the basic like RSTS BASIC-Plus?
On Nov 2, 2004, at 7:02 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
What's a Gi-Gi? I googled but all I got was a bunch of italian
sites.
A picture (courtesy of google):
http://www.cis.rit.edu/~jerry/Hardware/museum/pics/Gigi.jpg
Basically DEC's version of an Apple ][ / C64, with 8-color graphics (at
NTSC compatible frame rates), that had a built-in copy of BASIC and a
color terminal emulator. Neat little boxes, I've got one laying around
that I ran across the other day.
Pat
--
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The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org
Equipment
just saw outside at a surplus dealer:
2 Xerox 820's of some type,
1 DEC Minc-11,
1 DEC PDP-11/73,
1 Osborne-1,
1 DEC Gi-Gi,
4 Wang MVPs with Terminals and Peripherals.
Oh, now that hurts! I hope someone can at least grab the DEC HW!
Especially the Gi-Gi, and MINC! 
3:11 a.m.
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
But guess who wrote the BASIC for it ? Even as DEC had pretty good BASIC
interpreter inhouse ?
What's a
Gi-Gi? I googled but all I got was a bunch of italian
sites.
Basically DEC's version of an Apple ][ / C64, with 8-color graphics (at
NTSC compatible frame rates), that had a built-in copy of BASIC and a
color terminal emulator. 
2:26 a.m.
>>>> "Ron" == Ron Hudson
<ron.hudson(a)sbcglobal.net> writes:
Ron> On Nov 2, 2004, at 7:02 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
>> Equipment just saw outside at a surplus
dealer:
>>
>> 2 Xerox 820's of some type, 1 DEC Minc-11, 1 DEC PDP-11/73, 1
>> Osborne-1, 1 DEC Gi-Gi, 4 Wang MVPs with Terminals and
>> Peripherals.
> Oh, now that hurts! I hope someone can at least grab the DEC HW!
> Especially the Gi-Gi, and MINC!
Ron> What's a Gi-Gi? I googled but all I got was a bunch of italian
Ron> sites.
VK100 -- I think "Gigi" was the codename that snuck out. Some vague
memory says that it came out of the education producs group at DEC.
It looks like a fat VT100 keyboard with a video connection coming out
the back.
It's a very crude graphics terminal -- implements an early version of
ReGis (a DEC proprietary graphics protocol). It has color -- so long
as you only want a few (I think it had about 8).
A VT125 is a vastly superior graphics terminal -- that should give you
some idea...
paul
10 Nov
10 Nov
3:04 a.m.
Paul Koning wrote:
<snip>
VK100 -- I think "Gigi" was the codename that snuck out. Some vague
memory says that it came out of the education producs group at DEC.
It looks like a fat VT100 keyboard with a video connection coming out
the back.
It's a very crude graphics terminal -- implements an early version of
ReGis (a DEC proprietary graphics protocol). It has color -- so long
as you only want a few (I think it had about 8).
A VT125 is a vastly superior graphics terminal -- that should give you
some idea...
paul
the code name didn't sneak out, my box has GiGi on it. I do agree with
your assessment about its capabilities, however.
any manuals or download support around for these?
jim
6:23 a.m.
New subject: GIGI (was: RE: Stuff Available Ft. Wayne IN)
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the code name didn't sneak out, my box has GiGi on it. I do
agree with your assessment about its capabilities, however.
any manuals or download support around for these?
Yep, a good google should track them down. The user manual and the service
manual are online. If you can't find them give me a shout 'cos I've got them
here....just haven't got round to fixing my GIGI yet :)
cheers
w
12:28 p.m.
any manuals or download support around for {the GiGi}?
I have the paper manual here somewhere. It's bound (soft) so
may be a pain to scan. It's about time for someone to make an
"open book scanner", one with a wedge of glass that you can
drop the book onto. I don't want this binding opened 180? flat.
John A.
12:57 p.m.
New subject: Scanning books (was: Stuff Available Ft. Wayne IN
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, John Allain wrote:
I have the paper manual here somewhere. It's
bound (soft) so
may be a pain to scan. It's about time for someone to make an
"open book scanner", one with a wedge of glass that you can
drop the book onto. I don't want this binding opened 180? flat.
One company (I can't remember who) makes a book scanner that
has an option to correct for the curvature of the gutter of
a book that isn't fully flattened. I don't even remember
whether they did it optically (which would be a matter of
both focus AND distortion), or whether it is done digitally,
(digitally correcting the distortion, but relying on depth of focus).
8:26 p.m.
New subject: Scanning books (was: Stuff Available Ft. Wayne IN
On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 21:57, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, John Allain wrote:
> I have the paper manual here somewhere. It's bound (soft) so
> may be a pain to scan. It's about time for someone to make an
> "open book scanner", one with a wedge of glass that you can
> drop the book onto. I don't want this binding opened 180? flat.
Xerox and others make photocopiers for this. The glass extends all the
way to the side of the machine and you hang the book on the side. Maybe
someone makes a scanner like this. Check with a very large library or
university library.
Otherwise, the way this is handled is to shear the binding off the book.
You will loose a fraction of an inch of the inside margins. You need a
bulk paper shear, which print shops almost always have. The book can be
re-bound following scanning for a small fee. Just save the covers by
cutting them off the binding before shearing.
11:50 p.m.
New subject: Scanning books (was: Stuff Available Ft. Wayne IN
On 11 Nov 2004 05:26:53 -0500, james <james(a)jdfogg.com> wrote:
On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 21:57, Fred Cisin wrote:
HP makes a see-through scanner which can be put on top of whatever you
want to scan.
Convenient for items which are hard to scan with normal flatbed scanners,
and not too expensive.
--
-bv
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, John Allain wrote:
> I have the paper manual here somewhere. It's bound (soft) so
> may be a pain to scan. It's about time for someone to make an
> "open book scanner", one with a wedge of glass that you can
> drop the book onto. I don't want this binding opened 180? flat.
Xerox and others make photocopiers for this. The glass extends all the
way to the side of the machine and you hang the book on the side. Maybe
someone makes a scanner like this. Check with a very large library or
university library.
12 Nov
12 Nov
8:20 a.m.
New subject: Scanning books
Fred Cisin wrote:
One company (I can't remember who) makes a book
scanner that
has an option to correct for the curvature of the gutter of
a book that isn't fully flattened.
HP had a research project to make a book scanner that looked like
a reading lamp. You could set it up over an open book, and it would
correct for the curvature of the pages and the perspective effects
of the scanner's view point. I think it was done digitally. Don't
know if it got any further than a research paper.
--
John Honniball
coredump(a)gifford.co.uk
2 Nov
2 Nov
5:41 a.m.
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 08:16:47AM -0800, Ron Hudson wrote:
It's a DEC graphics terminal - there's some Gigi-specific programs for
TOPS-20, I know. It's more-or-less a precursor to the VT240/241, but
IIRC, it has an accessible BASIC interpreter for its internal 8-bit
processor.
-ethan
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Oh, now that
hurts! I hope someone can at least grab the DEC HW!
Especially the Gi-Gi, and MINC!
What's a Gi-Gi? I googled but all I got was a bunch of italian sites.
9:50 a.m.
New subject: GIGI (was: RE: Stuff Available Ft. Wayne IN)
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[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ethan Dicks
Sent: 02 November 2004 19:42
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Stuff Available Ft. Wayne IN
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 08:16:47AM -0800, Ron Hudson wrote:
italian sites.
It's a DEC graphics terminal - there's some Gigi-specific
programs for TOPS-20, I know. It's more-or-less a precursor
to the VT240/241, but IIRC, it has an accessible BASIC
interpreter for its internal 8-bit processor.
The DEC VK100 (aka GiGi) was a ReGIS graphics terminal from around 1978 so
it's not VT100 compatible, only VT52. Apparently it has enough power to plot
the Datatrieve Wombat so this means I need to get an old version of
Datatrieve going just so I can do that :) It's Intel 8085 based and runs
Microsloth BASIC depending on how it's powered up I think.
Search for 'dec vk100' instead of 'gigi' and you'll have more
success.
http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk/Museum/Digital/gigi/gigi.php
One of these days I'll get the required PSU smoothing caps to get mine going
again; it should run without them of course but it made such a noise when
they went off I want to make sure they're in place before I power up
again.....
cheers,
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Owner/Curator of Binary Dinosaurs, quite probably the UK's biggest private
home computer collection
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online museum
www.aaghverts.co.uk - *the* site for advert whinges!
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - former gothic shenanigans :(
Oh, now
that hurts! I hope someone can at least grab the DEC HW!
Especially the Gi-Gi, and MINC!
What's a Gi-Gi? I googled but all I got was a bunch of 
5:25 a.m.
Gary;
Any chance the Gi-Gi would be available and you could grab it for me? I'd be
interested in it!
Regards,
Jay West
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To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 7:34 AM
Subject: Stuff Available Ft. Wayne IN
Equipment just saw outside at a surplus dealer:
2 Xerox 820's of some type,
1 DEC Minc-11,
1 DEC PDP-11/73,
1 Osborne-1,
1 DEC Gi-Gi,
4 Wang MVPs with Terminals and Peripherals.
No connection to dealer.
Contact:
Pembelton Electronics, Inc.
Ft Wayne, IN 46808
(260) 484-1812
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