- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

> YOU need to get a grip - this was sent to the list that also covers off-topic postings, and I also > put OT in the subject line. OK. Can I bring up politics and religion, too? As long as I am nice and say "OT"? I am sure Jay would not mind. > No need to curse - what kind of upbringing did YOU have? You should be glad *I* am not a list mod. > You'd be banned already. > I don't really think anyone wants to read your filth. I am already headed to the bathroom so I can put a bar of soap in my mouth. -- Will

18 years

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Discussion List Netiquette

by marvin＠west.net

> > From: Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> > > Marden P. Marshall wrote: > > I'm not trying to be a hard ass here, but please try to look at it from > > You may not be trying, but that's the way it's coming off. I'll go with Marden here. The subject line is like a table of contents, and if I am looking for something, it is just unacceptable to have the table of contents have no relationship to the books contents. For some unknown reason, some posters seem to think it is perfectly okay here to waste the time of other readers here.

18 years

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OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal

by tonym＠compusource.net

>-----Original Message----- >From: William Donzelli wdonzelli at gmail.com >Sent 8/20/2008 9:02:26 PM >To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk at classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal > > PLEASE don't ever pay retail for MICROS~1 products! > >So what the f**k are you guys doing giving MICROS~1 so much free >advertising in the past few hours? > >Take it off list. > >-- YOU need to get a grip - this was sent to the list that also covers off-topic postings, and I also put OT in the subject line. No need to curse - what kind of upbringing did YOU have? You should be glad *I* am not a list mod. You'd be banned already. I don't really think anyone wants to read your filth. Tony

18 years

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Sun SparcPrinter Laser Printers Offer

by mikelee＠tdh.com

Hi, I have a couple of these SparcPrinters, that I haven't touched since I got them. Figured I'd offer them to someone who might want them. Not sure of the demand for these things, and not sure if they work at the moment, but there's no reason they shouldn't. I also have the cables for them. Pickup in the Chicagoland areas or willing to ship if you pay the actual costs. Mike

18 years

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OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal

by tonym＠compusource.net

>-----Original Message----- >From: Eric Smith eric at brouhaha.com >Sent 8/21/2008 1:36:07 AM >To: General Discussion GeneralDiscussion@ >Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal > >Eric J Korpela wrote: > Funny, but OpenOffice is still free. > >tonym wrote: > Funny, but it's still not fully Office 2007 compatible. > >Funny, but that's one of OpenOffice's best features. It does the stuff >I need, without nearly as much useless bloat as MS Office 2007. I deal >with Word and Excel documents routinely, and although I occasionally run >into one that uses an exotic feature not in OpenOffice, it's never been >anything that prevented me from doing what I need with the document. > Funniest, is that "feature" makes it unusable at, oh, 9 out of 10 universities in this country, and countless numbers of businesses. I know I couldn't use it at work - it wouldn't open hardly anything. I'd me MORE than happy to install OpenOffice on my wife's laptop... But what is she to do when the send her stuff in Office 2007 format, which OO can't open? Don't get me wrong - I'm not pro Microsoft, or anything. This is just a tool that my wife needs in school, and it was cheap. Obviously, by installing OO 2.4.1 and trying to open some of her docs from her last semester, OO isn't going to cut it. It opened 3 out of 17,and the rest, it wanted me to go through a HUGE list of formats to choose one,of which most Office 2007 stuff was missing. Office jsut knows what it is. Couldn't even open the PowerPoint presentations at all. Tony

18 years

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OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal

by tonym＠compusource.net

>-----Original Message----- >From: Eric J Korpela korpela at ssl.berkeley.edu >Sent 8/20/2008 11:16:06 PM >To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk at classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal > >Funny, but OpenOffice is still free. > >Eric > > Funny, but it's still not fully Office 2007 compatible. Had trouble with Word 2007 templates and certain docs, and can't open PowerPoint 2007 presentations. I JUST tried 2.4.1 from openoffice.org with some of my wife's school .doc's and PPoint presentations. Guess THAT didn't work out like you planned.

18 years

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VAXstation 4000/vlc fans?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Has anyone here dealt with the fans on a VAXstation 4000/vlc? I use one as a DECnet router, and its fans are "howling" loud enough that it is not "dining room friendly" (believe it or not I'm the one that says it's to loud to run and not my wife). I'd prefer to keep the /vlc running rather than replace it with either a /60 or /90. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

18 years

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OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal

by slawmaster＠gmail.com

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:14 PM, tonym <tonym at compusource.net> wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: William Donzelli wdonzelli at gmail.com >>Sent 8/20/2008 9:02:26 PM >>To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk at classiccmp.org >>Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal >> >> PLEASE don't ever pay retail for MICROS~1 products! >> >>So what the f**k are you guys doing giving MICROS~1 so much free >>advertising in the past few hours? >> >>Take it off list. >> >>-- > > > YOU need to get a grip - this was sent to the list that also covers off-topic postings, and I also > put OT in the subject line. > > No need to curse - what kind of upbringing did YOU have? You should be glad *I* am not a list mod. > You'd be banned already. > I don't really think anyone wants to read your filth. > > > > Tony Not to be a jerk about it, but welcome to the Internet. People swear, just like they do in real life. If your mom doesn't want you to hear those words, set up an email filter or something. Hell, he even censored himself, but you still felt the need to complain? I do agree that this topic is just fine on the list; it's not like we have these sort of threads every day, and some people could find this information (about the Academic Alliance and other things) useful. John "Potty Mouth" Floren -- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

18 years

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OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal

by tonym＠compusource.net

>-----Original Message----- >From: Fred Cisin cisin at xenosoft.com >Sent 8/20/2008 8:05:58 PM >To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk at classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal > > >Microsoft "academic pricing" is always in that range. >It is not always the same for different schools. >Where I teach, MICROS~1 wants $45 for Office or Vista, and $55 for visual >studio. > >all year long. > >http://old.foundationccc.org/msca/default.aspx > That site only covers 6 states. I live in Florida, which is NOT on the list at that site. This is a full retail Office 2007 Ultimate, 2-computer license (1 desktop, 1 laptop), for $59.95. As for Vista, that site has Vista Business, not Ultimate. Business lacks all the Multimedia/Media Center portions of Vista. Tony

18 years

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MFM harddrives (Seattle WA area)

by michaelgreen42＠comcast.net

I've got a large lot of various MFM harddrives sitting around that I have no use for. Don't know much about these but have to be worth something. If interested let me know and maybe we can work out either a cash or trade deal.

18 years

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OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal

by tonym＠compusource.net

>-----Original Message----- >From: bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca >Sent 8/20/2008 9:09:40 PM >To: General Discussion GeneralDiscussion@ >Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal > >Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 20 Aug 2008 at 17:49, Fred Cisin wrote: > > > PLEASE don't ever pay retail for MICROS~1 products! > > > So, who has the best price for "Bob"? > > Cheers, > Chuck >The pirate as allways! > > I remember seeing that garbage at Incredible Universe YEARS ago when they were still in business! Back then they were pushing that garbage as "Microsoft Home" and all the games, as well. Tony

18 years

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OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal

by tonym＠compusource.net

>-----Original Message----- >From: Fred Cisin cisin at xenosoft.com >Sent 8/20/2008 8:49:33 PM >To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk at classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft crazy academic deal > >On Thu, 21 Aug 2008, tonym wrote: > That site only covers 6 states. I live in Florida, which is NOT on the list at that site. > This is a full retail Office 2007 Ultimate, 2-computer license (1 desktop, 1 laptop), for $59.95. > As for Vista, that site has Vista Business, not Ultimate. Business lacks all the Multimedia/Media Center portions of Vista. > >Yes, there are a lot of different deals and places to do it through. >A better starting point than the one I use and posted, is: > >http://www.microsoft.com/education/eligible.mspx >http://www.microsoft.com/Education/USAcademicPricing.mspx > >Shop around for varying deals, but do NOT fall for "you gotta buy by >midnight". > > >If your school has subscribed to the MSDN Academic Alliance, then you >can copy certain products for free, if you promise to erase them when you >graduate. > I think you need to review the terms of the agreement at that first link you sent, for Microsoft Campus. Those renew yearly, and can only be installed *ONCE*. According to that site you sent, FAQ #4, they even advise you to run AntiVirus to protect your computer, as you are not even entitled to REinstall it. Apples-and-oranges - I can install and re-install this on those 2 computers as often as I wish, and no yearly license fee. Tony

18 years

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Opening computer museums

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 03:11 PM 8/18/2008, joe lobocki wrote: >someone really should open a vintage computer museum near >chicago...Ive toyed with the idea, i think space in the old 3com >building in rolling meadows would be a fitting place for vintage >computing.... I'd love to hear from anyone actually operating a computer museum. They seem like money sinks. You need benefactor$. Obviously, the best location for a computer museum would be where rich computer people like to live. I'd love to hear the typical ratio between exhibit space and storage/repair space, for example. - John

18 years

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Schematics of Atanasoff-Berry Computer logic circuits?

by wbblair3＠yahoo.com

Does anyone know of a source for schematics of the Atanasoff-Berry Computer vacuum tube logic circuitry? I've found this web page: http://www.scl.ameslab.gov/ABC/ but there are no schematics available there. I have emailed the person at the bottom of the web page, but I suspect that since school is not in session, I won't soon get a response.

18 years

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PC keyboards

by feldman.r＠comcast.net

http://xkcd.com/243/ >Message: 20 >Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:24:06 -0400 >From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> >Subject: Re: PC keyboards >On Aug 20, 2008, at 1:29 PM, Alexandre Souza wrote: >>>> I use an IBM model M with a PS2-to-USB converter :o) >>> I use a Unicomp Customizer. It's black/silver and has native >>> USB. It also uses the famous IBM/Lexmark buckling-spring mechanism. >> >> BTW an old dream of mine is finding an IBM "M" keyboard with the >> trackpoint (know as "clitoris" in Brazil...go figure! :oD). > We call them that here too. :) > -Dave

18 years

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Request help to make alive my bigboard 1

by elazzerini＠interfree.it

Is there anybody who woudl like to help me to diagnosticate what is not working on my bigboard 1 to make it alive again? thanks Enrico

18 years

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Who is vintagecomputermuseum?

by snhirsch＠gmail.com

Just curious if the person who owns this eBay store is a list regular? And, more the the point, do they actually get anyone to pay nearly $500 for an AT&T PC7300? --

18 years

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First Northern Germany DECnet Party

by hoelscher-kirchbrak＠freenet.de

>>First Northern Germany DECnet Party, who wants to join? >> >>Who wants to install, configure, network, >>cluster or program ALPHAs, MIPSen, VAXen and >>PDPs just for fun together with 10 to 20 other >>DEC enthusiasts for a day or two? >Are you going to link into HECnet as part of the event? No, not this time, but maybe next time. There's no internet access in our meeting room and furthermore I'd have to connect to HECnet first at all. But thank you very much for the idea. We will discuss it among the participants of the DECnet Party. I see it would be a great chance for Enthusiasts from overseas to join us. Regards, Ulli The VAXorcist

18 years

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Opening Computer Museum

by sbolton＠bfree.on.ca

As someone who runs a museum - The Personal Computer Museum (www.pcmuseum.ca) in Brantford, Ontario, Canada I can tell you that it's a lot more work than you might think to get it going, keep it running, etc. As stated, there are many issues beyond just getting the place going. It depends on local laws as well. I'm currently a not-for-profit organization with "charitable objects". My "Charitable status" is still in the works and takes months. Getting it means a lot for those who donate computers and money, and in some cases for certain grants it is an absolute requirement. There are also "museum standards" that must be adhered to. Policies on how you manage the collection and everything else about it. We are JUST starting to get international attention and are growing - but I've been at it for almost 3 years of being open and I've been collecting for over 20. I am hoping to be at it full time by next year--but it's a SLOW process. If you wish to talk to me about it privately, email me at sbolton at bfree.on.ca and I'd be more than happy to share my experiences.

18 years

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Olivetti BCS 2035 for pick up

by ccmpcpg＠yahoo.de

Hi, I need the space, and I never managed to get documentation or a boot disk for it anyway. Here are some pictures: http://www.groessler.org/bild/bcs2035-1.jpg http://www.groessler.org/bild/bcs2035-2.jpg http://www.groessler.org/bild/bcs2035-3.jpg http://www.groessler.org/bild/bcs2035-4.jpg http://www.groessler.org/bild/bcs2035-5.jpg http://www.groessler.org/bild/bcs2035-6.jpg http://www.groessler.org/bild/bcs2035-7.jpg http://www.groessler.org/bild/bcs2035-8.jpg http://www.groessler.org/bild/bcs2035-9.jpg http://www.groessler.org/bild/bcs2035-10.jpg http://www.groessler.org/bild/bcs2035-11.jpg The covers missing on the pictures are all present. When turned on the monitor displays a blinking "HALT" message. I don't know if this is serious. I'm living in the Munich area. regards, chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf?gt ?ber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com

18 years

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HERO1 For sale...

by atomkey＠yahoo.com

Greetings. I am interested in purchasing a HERO1 (fro heathkit). The original asking price from 1979 - 1982 was about $1,500.00 I think $150.00 would be a fair trade. What do you think? Referenced here: http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2007-December/089541.html Thank you. Atomkey.

18 years

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Free DECMATE

by ken.rauhala＠nokia.com

Located in Merrimack NH, USA. Need to pick up before August 28. Contact: Kauno Rauhala (603) 883-8214 email: ken.rauhala at nokia.com

18 years

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Opening computer museums

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 07:35 AM 8/20/2008, William Donzelli wrote: >And the answer is the American Museum of Electricity, in Niskayuna, >NY, near Albany. In the early 1960s, some of the people involved >apparently were very much forward thinkers, and planned to have an >entire wing of their building dedicated to computers. Other wings >dealt with other branches of electricity and electronics. Here's a few ambitious pictures. http://www.ginosrailpage.com/TandS/AME.html - John

18 years

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yet again: shipping advice

by tiggerlasv＠aim.com

Yes, you can do better on shipping. I am assuming that you're dropping the freight off at Craters & Freighters. With that in mind: Call Craters back, and have them quote you JUST on the packaging. Have them do the packing. . . they do good work. Pick the unit back up from them (They will more than likely put it into a large box, banded to a skid.) Take the unit to Forward Air in Des Plaines, and have them send it to Austin, hold for pickup. (They can also deliver it in Austin, but that of course is extra.) You can obtain a rate quote from them by calling their 800 number. See their website at: http://www.ForwardAir.com Forward Air will not accept unboxed or improperly packaged items. Based on the dimensions you provided, 48" x 30" x 42", I would GUESS that, packaged, you're looking at about 54" x 36" x 48" or so. . . That will give you a CHARGEABLE weight of about 375 lbs. . . Forward Air would charge about $207 total, to move it from Chicago to Austin. (Again, that is only from their dock, to their dock in Austin.) Although ForwardAir has relatively few problems with larger, properly packaged items, I would still insure it. As info. . . . T

18 years

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Vintage Computer and Gaming Marketplace

by mbbrutman-cctalk＠brutman.com

Just a quick introduction - besides being the guy who can't make his IBM 6904-20 Lighted Programmable Function Keyboard work on a serial port and writing a TCP/IP stack from scratch that runs on a PCjr, I am also a moderator at The Vintage Computer Forums web forum ( http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/ ) . Some of you are regulars there too, but it is more PC and smaller computer oriented than most of you on this list are. We have many of the same problems with well known auction sites that many subscribers here have. We also have enough traffic in our 'for sale' section of the forum to finally warrant a more structured auction type service. So we are happy to announce "The Vintage Computer and Gaming Marketplace" at http://marketplace.vintage-computer.com/ . The idea is give vintage computer collectors an alternative to your favorite big site that is more targeted to our specific interests. It is simple to use, it supports auctions and normal fixed price sales, and there is none of this sniping bogusness that happens on eBay. Best of all, it's completely free to use - no listing fees. Thanks for reading, Mike PCjr nutcase and soon to be TRS-80 Model 4 nutcase

18 years

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Upgrading early BIOS

by Hollandia＠ccountry.net

One of my machines is an old Packard-Bell Legend 610 machine, to which I am trying to fit a second hard drive. The machine will not recognize any modern (or semi-modern) hard drive I have attempted to fit. I have tried various master/slave combinations, to no avail. My guess is that this is due to the BIOS being of am early type. The BIOS chip is a socketed DIP package and the lettering on it is too faded to read. The screen boot-up display is this: PhoenixBIOS(TM) A486 Version 1.01 PB400 OPTI 486WB Reference ID 08 Is this a reasonable guess? If so, what might be done by way of a BIOS upgrade? Thanks, Kurt

18 years

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yet again: shipping advice

by frustum＠pacbell.net

I obtained the Wang 1200 word processor that was mentioned few weeks >from list member Bradley Slavik (thanks!). it is sitting in my sister's garage in Berwyn IL (just west of Chicago). I need to ship it to Austin, tx. My hand wave on the item, not having seen it, but having a picture of one in a brochure. 4" wide, 2.5" deep, 3.5" high, 100 lbs or so. It turns out 100 lbs is a price boundary, but up to 200 lbs is only about $50 more. Based on my hand wave of dimensions and weight, craters & freighters quoted $500 to pick it up in berwyn (60402), crate it, and ship it to austin (78737). Certainly you couldn't pay me $500 to do it myself, so on that basis they are the best option I have so far. I know various people on this list have had better or worse experience with shippers, and I don't mean to get into that discussion again. I was just wondering if this quote is reasonable. Thanks

18 years

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Opening computer museums

by feldman.r＠comcast.net

>Message: 22 >Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:40:17 -0400 >From: "William Donzelli" <wdonzelli at gmail.com> >Subject: Re: Opening computer museums <snip> >> Yeah, but part of the grant always goes to administrative overhead. >Splat! >"Administrative overhead" is a big red flag for the organizations that >are issuing the grants. <snip> >> At any rate, the grant is going to be issued as the parent >> organization and not directly to you; that's the whole point of >> working under an umbrella organization. But yes, you're correct that >> grants are legal documents with restrictions that have to be observed. >It is wiser to keep any kick backs to the parent organization >completely outside any grants, and wise to keep them above the table. >-- >Will Having worked at the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago, and written a number of grant proposals, I can say that whether or not you include overhead depends both on to whom you are applying (do they allow overhead?) and the institution through which you are applying. Some institutions will let you get by without writing overhead into your grant, while others will insist on overhead greater than what you are asking for in the first place. Overhead rates are usually negotiated in advance between the institution and the granting agency, and the rates vary depending on the use of the money -? salary usually gets a higher overhead rate. At the FMNH, you couldn?t even _talk_ to funding sources without first clearing it with the grants office. The main reason for that was that, by asking the funding source about funding your project, you might jeopardize the funding of other projects that were already in the works or planned. Bob

18 years

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Opening computer museums

by evan＠snarc.net

>>> without an endowment or a building you are forever treading water untill you find help. Exactly. The toughest place to start is at square one. So I urge people to emulate what we did here in NJ -- start by partnering with an existing organization. A science museum is the best place. Colleges, libraries, community centers, etc. are next. IMHO, the least desirable kind of partner is a private company.

18 years

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ebay seller: it_equipment_xpress => it_equipment_4_sale

by legalize＠xmission.com

The same overpriced goods and always without a picture. It appears that this seller has just recently gotten a new identity. You may want to adjust your searches to exclude the new identity as I have. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

18 years

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WTB: DEC PC04 Paper Tape Reader/Punch

by mardy＠voysys.com

Does anyone have a DEC PC04 paper tape reader/punch that they would be interested in letting go? I'm also looking for the matching PC8-E (M840) UNIBUS controller card. Thanks, -Mardy

18 years

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IBM Greystone Display Station Manuals

by technobug＠comcast.net

Richard wrote: > In article <5107C05E-01F2-4A99-AEBB-4475E5C10E8B at comcast.net>, > CRC <technobug at comcast.net> writes: > >> I was at my local scrapper recently and ran across a number of >> manuals >> for the IBM Grelystone Display Station in the dumpster: >> >> Maintenance Analysis Procedures >> Greystone Parts Catalog >> Maintenance Information Manual > > What is a "Greystone Display Station"? Googling didn't turn up > anything obvious. Jason T helpfully added: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> > wrote: > >> What is a "Greystone Display Station"? Googling didn't turn up >> anything obvious. > > Ah, sometimes you have to look to the non-obvious: > > http://www.pmsimon.com/images/productplacement.jpg So that everyone is not left with the wrong impression I scanned a couple of pages from the manuals and they can be found at <elipsoid.home.comcast.net/Greystone.html>. The manuals appear to be drafts for a CRT display station. Again, if interested, they are available for postage. CRC

18 years

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looking for Motorola PowerStack manuals, info, Any model

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

-- g-wright at att.net wrote: > I think all of the Power Stack computers by Motorola where >Power PC systems. I have 2 AViiON's here which where 88k. (Of >coarse quit large) SO, which AViiON models do you have? I have a 400 and a 412, with enough parts to build a 530. The 'PowerStack' systems I was thinking of looks like this: http://www.corestore.org/powerstack.jpg It looks kinda like a series 900, but not quite exact. Never seen one IRL. ____________________________________________________________ Free quote and debt consolidation information. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m2Xh79qfbH31rKOFSMlAirCs…

18 years

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SAGE goodies..

by geneb＠deltasoft.com

(for Mike Loewen, but I couldn't find his email address - appologies) http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Vintage-IBM-SAGE-computer-console-switch-banks_W0Q… -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

18 years

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Apple //e parallel port card

by drb＠msu.edu

A local business contacted me to ask if I had a parallel port card (centronics) for an Apple //e. They apparently got "hit" and lost the existing card. Seems they still have an old application they need to keep running for a few more months while they convert to something newer. I'm not an Apple guy, but promised I'd ask around. So, list, anyone have such a card they'd be willing to part with? Presumably they'd be willing to pay something for it. Mid Michigan, though such a card can presumably be mailed without too much pain from nearly anywhere. Thanks, De

18 years

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East Coast/Long Island HP 64000 development system for sale

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

This is not my system, contact stan below for details: ====================================================== I have an old HP 64000 development system that I would like to sell to the appropriate person or collector of vintage computer equipment. I just don't know where to look. I am on the east coast on Long Island. stans829 at optonline.net

18 years

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nifty little keyboards

by slawmaster＠gmail.com

Snagged a bunch of these in original packaging from a box in the engineering department. http://csplan9.rit.edu/users/john/archerkbd.jpg http://csplan9.rit.edu/users/john/archerkbd-tag.jpg Very nice key placement for a UNIX keyboard, assuming you can live without an ALT key (although I guess that is a potential function for the FUNCT key). Maybe I should get a microcontroller and try making a terminal :) John -- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

18 years

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looking for Motorola PowerStack manuals, info, Any model

by g-wright＠att.net

Hi, I have been looking for a long time and it seems these are not easy to find ??? - Jerry Jerry Wright JLC inc g-wright at att.net

18 years

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powerstack photos

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://www.schrotthal.de/motorola/ also, the docs are still on line, if you can figure out what the file names are under https://mcg.motorola.com/us/products/docs/pdf/ The product line has been taken over by Emerson

18 years

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M88k info

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://badabada.org/ has a nice overview

18 years

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What font is the DEC logo?

by evan＠snarc.net

Does anyone happen to know which font(s) best replicate the DEC logo, such as this: http://www.vaxination.ca/vms/alpha/digital_556.jpg ...? I thought Arial Narrow might be correct, but things like the bottom of the lowercase "a" are different. We're looking to make a DEC banner for an exhibit in our museum here in New Jersey. (Or, does anyone have an existing DEC banner to loan / donate inexpensively sell to us?) - Evan

18 years

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Power control connectors for BA4xx boxes??

by bob＠jfcl.com

Can anyone identify the power control connectors used on the H7874 power supplies in the DEC BA4xx boxes? They look a lot like RJ-45s, but there are some extra ridges in them so that an RJ style plug won't fit. And the contact arrangement is different, so it probably wouldn't work even if it did fit. I'm trying find a cable so I can daisy chain the power control on a couple of cabinets, or matching connectors so that I can make my own. Thanks, Bob Armstrong

18 years

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hp85 belts : any source in Europe ?

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

A local auctionsite yielded me a dead hp85 for 1$. The error was quickly identified : the internal flatcables were badly aligned and shorted out several lines. The machine is now functional, but still suffers from bad contacts. I might resolve to soldering some wires instead of the offending flatcables. Of course tapedrive and printer need to be rebuild : any source for small quantities of these belts in Europe ? Jos Dreesen

18 years

2
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OT: Pushing pins

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Just wondering if anyone's found a decent tool for pushing wire-wrap > socket pins out of (thick) 1/8" prototyping board. I made something a LONG time ago by drilling a hole into the end of a center punch.

18 years

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Who is vintagecomputermuseum?

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

-- Jim Battle <frustum at pacbell.net> wrote: Dave McGuire wrote: > On Aug 17, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Steven Hirsch wrote: >> Just curious if the person who owns this eBay store is a list regular? >> And, more the the point, do they actually get anyone to pay nearly >> $500 for an AT&T PC7300? > > I sold one for $300 last summer. Remember, this whole notion of > classic computers never being worth any actual money is pretty much > restricted to this mailing list. Yeah, and I guess the whole notion of the classic computers hobby being a level playing field was also restricted to this list. Ooops, I guess not even that is true anymore, huh? ____________________________________________________________ Click for online loan, fast & no lender fee, approval today http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m3WL623vT1MXViOvoiNjovS5…

18 years

2
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Mac unices manuals

by mtapley＠swri.edu

All, A couple of things I have but don't have time to fool with: User's Reference Manual only :-( for Tenon Mach-Ten Unix for Macintosh. also the box for the media, but *no media*. A/UX Essentials Manual only for Apple A/UX X/11 Reference for A/UX X/11 User's Guide for A/UX Apple MacX (User's Guide Supplement for A/UX (2 copies) X-11 for A/UX and MacX install disks (3.5" floppies) I'd like to get shipping + 25% or so; I'm in Zip 78254. Also still looking to divest myself of many many reels of 9-track tape. Suggestions welcome as to a better venue for this kind of announcement, but I'm not a big fan of eBay. Contact by email preferred, cellphone below is also OK. -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

18 years

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looking for Motorola PowerStack manuals, info, Any model

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

-- Steven M Jones <classiccmp at crash.com> wrote: jeff.kaneko at juno.com wrote: >> You'd probably have better luck locating an 88k AViiON. >> Many more were produced, with similar (VME) architecture. >> Documentation is scarce, but if you get the right model, >> there's some good info available. > >Appreciate the suggestion. I already have a few deskside >88k AViiONs buried in storage, Cool! Which model(s)? > several Moto MVME 88100/88110 modules and a chassis >or two, Yep, standard issue . . . >an ADP-badged M8120, The Shoebox! Looks like OpenBSD kinda-sorta works on this one . . . >and one of the OMRON Luna 88k SMP workstations. That last just >popped up on eBay one day so I grabbed it You lucky dog! These are the rarest of the 88k systems (unless you also consider the nearly-mythical 88k NextStation). ISTR a LUNA appeared or E-bay a couple of years ago. Was yours that one? The price was quite high IIRC. . . >-- say, wonder if I can dig that out in time for VCF... Maybe there should be an 88k contingent this go around? Maybe I can bring my 412. . . . Jeff ____________________________________________________________ Live your dreams. Click here to find information on becoming a lawyer. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oFGmeTdIHkCRO7tYZ1uPzwsM…

18 years

3
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OT-ish? McIlroy's "Synthetic English Speech by Rule"

by jzg22＠drexel.edu

I know this is a 'blast from the past', but did anyone ever find the McIlroy paper? The McIlroy algorithm both inspired and was in direct competition with the NRL algorithm. The NRL algorithm was developed by Votrax and the Naval Research Laboratory, details of which are discussed in another paper (NTIS ADA0121 929, NRL report 7948) which is available >from the national archives in college park, MD. (I'm planning to get a copy of the latter, but have no idea how to get a copy of the M. D. McIlroy paper. the version in the journal of the acoustical society of america is not the complete paper, but a citation of it for a conference, afaict) * * -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu(@t)hotmail(d0t)com jzg22(@t)drexel(d0t)edu * Don Y* dgy at DakotaCom.Net <mailto:cctech%40classiccmp.org?Subject=OT-ish%3F%20%20McIlroy%27s%20%22Synthetic%20English%20Speech%20by%20Rule%22&In-Reply-To=> /Wed Jul 19 21:37:44 CDT 2006 / My only claim to being *possibly* on-topic is the age of the article (1974) and the fact that it inspired many of the early phoneme-driven speech synthesizers (Votrax, etc.). Does anyone have access to a suitably good engineering library with a copy of: McIlroy, M D, "Synthetic English Speech by Rule", Bell Telephone Labs, CSTR #14, 1973 (though I have also seen it referenced as 1974!) or: Ainsworth, W A, "A System for Converting English Text to Speech", IEEE Trans Audio & Electroacoustics AU-21 #3 pp 288-290, 1973 The former is far more interesting to me than the latter :-( (sigh) There are *some* advantages to being a student (though those days are long past, in my case!) I can try my local public library to see if it is available via ILL. I guess I could also try the local university's engineering library. Thanks! --don

18 years

2
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Aim-65 Listed on Vintage Computer and Gaming Marketplace Listings

by marvin＠west.net

I am starting to put stuff up for sale on the Vintage Computer and Gaming Marketplace: http://marketplace.vintage-computer.com/index.php? Included are an Aim-65 and a Pro-Log 900 Prom Programmer. More stuff will be added as time permits.

18 years

1
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Upgrading early BIOS

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:49:22 -0700 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> Subject: Re: Upgrading early BIOS On 13 Aug 2008 at 15:36, M H Stein wrote: >> AFAIK cable select has always been an option with Parallel ATA drives, >> although it was rarely used in pre-UDMA days; the cable was obviously >> different (40 conductors with standard connectors vs. 80 conductors and >> unique special connectors) and the order of the drives was usually reversed >> (i.e. the slave on the end of the cable). >Nope--I've got a couple of very early Conner and Maxtor drives (less >than 100 MB)--CS isn't an option on the jumpers. If you'd read more carefully, you'd have seen that I *did* say that "not all drives supported the CS option;" in fact, quite a few of the older drives did not. I was responding to the posted statement that CS "had not been invented" in the 486 days, when AFAIK, it was part of the early ATA specs (although rarely implemented in practice). > It's the motherboard that determines the cable type and mode from pin 34, > which is grounded at the mobo end in a UDMA cable, so if the mobo isn't > UDMA-aware I don't think the drives would be, and the cable wouldn't matter. > Also, not all drives supported CS. >Read the Wiki article you cited: >"Pin 34: >Pin 34 is connected to ground inside the blue connector of an 80 >conductor cable but not attached to any conductor of the cable. It is >attached normally on the gray and black connectors". >On UDMA-66 capable drives, it's the cable, not the mobo that dictates >speed. Put an ordinary 40 conductor cable on a UDMA-capable drive >and mobo, and the configuration won't take advantage of it. When the >changeover was in progress, we used to get support calls quite often >on the subject of UDMA cables and drives on non-UDMA mobos. Well, I never knew that just replacing the cable in my 386 and 486 systems would speed things up; live and learn. I always thought that if the mobo wasn't pin 34 aware and UDMA capable then the cable wouldn't have much effect on the transfer mode. AFAIK in order to use UDMA all three items have to be UDMA capable, the mobo, the cable and the drives, although I'd say that, assuming it's UDMA aware, the mobo controls the speed depending on what kind of cable and drives it sees. Semantics? You said that with a UDMA cable, any UDMA capable drive will operate in UDMA mode (presumably regardless of the mobo); how does a drive know what kind of cable is connected? I always assumed that only the mobo can tell from pin 34. BTW, a UDMA cable certainly works with non-UDMA drives and/or mobos, although you have to remember that it is also a CS cable, but I don't think it'll be any faster. >Similarly: >"With the 40-wire cable it was very common to implement cable select >by simply cutting the pin 28 wire between the two device connectors; >putting the slave device at the end of the cable, and the master on >the "middle" connector. This arrangement eventually was standardized >in later versions. If there is just one device on the cable, this >results in an unused "stub" of cable, which is undesirable for >physical convenience and electrical reasons. The stub causes signal >reflections, particularly at higher transfer rates." >Bottom line is that if you use a non-CS-capable (i.e. 40 conductor >"straight through") cable, it won't work. Depending on what the >mobo/controller end does with pin 28, you'll have either two masters >or two slaves on the same cable. Agreed; I took it for granted, but with our detour into UDMA the most important point to be made relevant to the OP is that Cable Select needs a special cable and with pre-UDMA drives & mobos you're probably better off using Master/Slave and a standard cable. >Cheers, >Chuck m

18 years

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Speak and Spell

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Somewhere, I have a kit that someone made for connecting a Speak & Spell to a computer to act as a voice synthesizer. I can't remember if it was for the TRS-80 or S-100 bus systems. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

18 years

2
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Bernoulli Box controller?

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

I've successfully connected a 20MB Bernoulli Box to a PC using drivers found off the web. The configuration is an active part of my main data conversion system, so I'd be happy to pass along the configuration to anyone who e-mails me directly. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

18 years

1
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Speak and Swear

by jzg22＠drexel.edu

Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:00:04 -0700 From: "Scanning" <steven.alan.canning at verizon.net> Subject: Re: Speak and Swear To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <001101c90036$e0942910$0301a8c0 at hal9000> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Little known ( I think... ) Speak & Spell trivia fact; The very first original S & Ss ( circa 1978 ?? ) with the hard molded buttons had swear words that the programmers had sneaked into the voice code ROMs. On mine you could access these by selecting the module ( with no ROM module plugged in ) and select level D. It would then say " Spell .... a bunch of garbage words, and then swear words" at the end . I have a .wav and an MP3 example of this little S & S Easter Egg... TI found out ( of course ) and recalled as many units as they could. If you can find one now they are quite rare and very entertaining. A special ed teacher I know used S & Ss to help her kids and was wondering why they kept laughing uncontrollably. They had figured out how to access the "special" words .... Best regards, Steven I have a 1978 (raised button) speak & spell here, and I tried what you said. While it does glitch out randomly (the speech rom is apparently accessing open bus instead of the module, and is saying gibberish which occasionally points to the valid internal rom), I'm not hearing anything that could be considered swear words. yet. Also, afaik the US speak&spell only had two rom revisions: CD2300/TMC0351 plus CD2301/TMC0352 in the 1978 one with the raised buttons (32KiB of total rom, 16KiB per chip) and CD2350 in the 1980 one with the membrane/flat keypad (16KiB total rom, probably a cost-cutting measure, only has half as many words I think) Which version was supposedly recalled? the earlier one? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lord_Nightmare (scroll down) to see all the CDxxxx chips I know of, and which ones have had their contents read out. (if you have any I'm missing, such as the UK speak&spell 78, or the italian grillo parlante, or the german 'buddy', email me off list) -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu(@t)hotmail(d0t)com jzg22(@t)drexel(d0t)edu

18 years

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HP64000 System, Books, Software available

by snhirsch＠gmail.com

With a heavy heart and ever-diminishing storage space, I'm going to part with my HP64000 development system. This is a soup-to-nuts setup including: - HP64000 desktop unit (all-in-one w/ keyboard and floppy drives) - External HPIB hard disk (from an HP9000, i.e. physically small) - CPU Pods for 68000, 68010, Z80, 8085, 8088 and 8051. I do not have the interface boards for everything and have never used them. Some look to be brand new. - More interface and emulation boards (for internal card frame) than I know what to do with. Spares for just about everything. - Several EPROM programmer adapters (mount in main system unit). - Tape drive mechanism (internal mount, was replaced by diskette drives) - Two 4ft. shelves full of manuals - hardware and software - Complete cross-assembler and cross-compiler software for every 1978-1982 CPU you have ever heard of and perhaps some you haven't. Probably 2-3 linear feet of 5-1/4" diskettes, most the original distribution media. The last time I fired it up, the main unit worked fine. It boots from the attached HPIB drive and was able to access the floppy drives without error. I won't even consider shipping it, you will need to pick it up in Burlington, VT and must take everything with you. Note that I haven't mentioned price. That's because there isn't any. Terms are simple: Free to the first person who makes arrangements with me for pickup and appears at my door. Steve --

18 years

2
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IBM 4702

by dbetz＠xlisper.com

Anyone know what an IBM 4702 is? I found one in the trash at my local dump. It's a cube shaped box with a couple of 5.25" floppy drives on the front. Would this be of interest to anyone? If so, I'll pick it up (free) but you'll have to come by and get it at my home in Bedford, NH.

18 years

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Digital Select Info Sys 5 1/4 floppies

by trebor72＠execpc.com

I have 3 Digital Select Info Sys 5 1/4 floppies and two working copies. In a package can be shipped Media Mail "Select /V2.30 Master Bin RX18" "Select /V2.30 Install/Tch Bin RX18" "Select /V2.30 Superspl Bin RX18" Make Me an Offer Bob in Wisconsin

18 years

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WANTED: IBM drivers for LPFK (P/N 39F8224/39F8225)

by classiccmp＠philpem.me.uk

Hi guys, My LPFK reverse engineering attempts have drawn a blank -- does anyone happen to have a copy of the PC drivers for this thing? IBM part numbers were 39F8224 and 39F8225, for 3.5" and 5.25" format respectively. These discs contained diagnostic software and drivers used to connect the LPFK to a PS/2, PC-XT or PC-AT. Rumour has it there was also a connection pack, #4025, which consisted of the diagnostic disc, serial cable and power supply. There's also a document referenced in the RS/6000 Graphics Handbook -- "IBM 6094-020 LPFK Options Instructions, GA23-2403". Does anyone have a copy of this, and is there any useful information in it? At this point, I don't think there's anything else I can really do without either some software that can talk to the LPFK (and maybe a disassembler...), or some actual protocol documentation. Thanks, -- Phil. classiccmp at philpem.me.uk http://www.philpem.me.uk/

18 years

1
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Speak and Spell

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Back in the early 80's, I remember that something I wanted very badly was a product someone was selling that you could mod a Speak and Spell with, and use it as a voice synthesiser for a computer. I know it was out for the TRS-80. But, I don't remember if it worked on other platforms. It must, I would think. Anyone else remember this? Al Phila, PA

18 years

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FS: data books, Franklin Ace 1000 w/floppy drive, Seagate drive/PC controller card

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

More junk coming to light in the barn. Another lot of data books from the 80's and early 90's. See picture. $6 plus actual (Media Mail) shipping from 65775. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2cqcz7s&s=4 The Franklin Ace 1000 (Apple II clone, but you probably already know that if you're interested :) has a "Microtek" parallel printer card and a single floppy drive, but no disk drive card or monitor so I can't test it. The power supply voltages are all good, it's clean inside, and the "ON" and keyboard "LOCK" LEDs are lit, but that's all I can tell. I did take the missing parts from my IIe over 20 years ago and booted it up (there's a DOS disk copy I made in the drive), but no guarantees after sitting in storage for that length of time! Manual included. No reasonable offer refused. (You pay shipping or can pick up in St. Louis). http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4ruw7p&s=4 http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2uducsn&s=4 Also a Seagate ST-277R drive (a whopping 65 MB), complete ST21R/22R controller card with instructions and cables. Again, this worked a very long time ago with a 386SX-40 system, IIRC. Probably has Win 3.1 on it, but I don't remember. Make an offer, it's just taking up space here and I hate to throw it out! http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ypdn45&s=4 Please email me off-list if interested. thanks Charles

18 years

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DEC Robin - a belated thanks and anyone interested?

by jfk＠kuenzigbooks.com

A belated thanks to all who responded with their ideas about whether or not it is safe to power up these old machines. Since I just don't have the time to do it properly and make sure the machine is preserved as well as it could be, I'll entertain offers on it. I have a few photographs I can forward to anyone interested. If I don't get a reasonable offer (I'm selling for a friend) I'll just list it on the infernal ebay. I'd rather do something with someone here. I can ship (it's in the 2 original boxes) or pickup can be made here (Topsfield, MA). Please contact me offlist. Best, John Kuenzig (and nope, no Corvus interface or drive, sorry!)

18 years

1
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IBM displaywriter manuals with software and program disks

by jfk＠kuenzigbooks.com

Hi all - I received this message from one of our customers. Nancy has original manuals for the IBM Displaywriter (see her message below). If you are interested please contact Nancy directly at NKParadise at aol.com. If you do succeed in obtaining them, please let the list know its gone so she isn't bombarded. Best, John Kuenzig Bookseller That would be wonderful, John. Please do forward the info. Thanx, Nancy === Nancy - If you're ok with it, I'll forward your message to a classic computer list I belong to, and it is likely that someone there might need them. They would contact you directly in that case. Best, John NKParadise at aol.com wrote: > > *I have a complete/original set of manuals (10-12 of them) for the IBM > Displaywriter sold in the early 1980's -- before the Personal > Computer. I also have all the program disks (Textpack IV and > Reportpack) and some 8" floppies. Everything is in excellent > condition. Do you have a need for any of this? ... or an idea of > anyone who may?* > > *Nancy Paradise* > *561-744-8133* > *561-746-4848 X307* > *NKParadise at aol.com* <mailto:NKParadise at aol.com>

18 years

1
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manufacturer catalogues DEC and other tech reference

by jfk＠kuenzigbooks.com

Hi all - We've been accumulating various manufacturer catalogues for components, etc as we've bought large lots of engineering books out of houses. I've compiled a list of about 50 various items (DEC, TI, Sams, GE, RCA, Allied Radio, etc etc) with prices, etc. - if interested please send me a note offlist. Most are nominal (under $20, many less). Just want to move them to a good home and clear up some space without taking the time to list them online. Along those same lines, we were able to purchase some DEC manuals (about 10 boxes worth), most original DEC stuff, most of it Ultrix and VAX/VMS stuff, which I can also send to interested parties offlist. Best, John Kuenzig Bookseller jfk at kuenzigbooks.com Topsfield MA

18 years

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looking for Motorola PowerStack manuals, info, Any model

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

You'd probably have better luck locating an 88k AViiON. Many more were produced, with similar (VME) architecture. Documentation is scarce, but if you get the right model, there's some good info available. -- Steven M Jones <classiccmp at crash.com> wrote: Just to pile-on, a reminder that I'm interested in providing a home for an 88k-based Powerstack. With or without manuals. ;^) Thanks, --Steve. Berkeley, CA, USA ____________________________________________________________ Click here for great computer networking solutions! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oHgMTIypdPVr76Uh5kJh7zjG…

18 years

3
2
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Ferguson Bigboard I - MK-82 (italian version)

by elazzerini＠interfree.it

Hi at all, i write to evidence my website about the computer board in object. The evidence is ONLY for to have more contacts and to exchange info to rebuild all possible especially around the italian version of the board. http://elazzerini.interfree.it/index.htm Regards Enrico Lazzerini - Pisa (Italy)

18 years

1
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Paper Tape Reader

by iamvirtual＠gmail.com

Does anyone know of a source for a [relatively] cheap paper tape reader suitable for reading standard DEC paper tapes? I have several paper tapes from a PDP-11/20 that I would like to read, and of course, share :-). Something like the OP-80 from Oliver Engineering would be suitable. Thanks. --barrym

18 years

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Bernoulli Box controller?

by derschjo＠msu.edu

I picked up a very old Iomega Bernoulli Box (labeled on the rear as "The Bernoulli Box," on the front as "Iomega Cartridge Disk Subsystem"), model CDS-PC/20. The chassis basically looks like a knockoff of the original IBM PC, even down to the red on/off switch on the rear right. Got a few 10mb cartridges with it, but no controller. Anyone have a PC controller for this thing they don't need? Any advice for cleaning it out before I try to load any cartridges? Thanks, Josh

18 years

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Dauphin DTR-1 (Near Tacoma)

by michaelgreen42＠comcast.net

I've got a Dauphin DTR-1 PDA type device. It includes all original stuff (as far as I can tell). Original boxes all in excellent shape. It even has the original display box the other 3 boxes sit in. Even has install floppies for windows 3.x and Dos. Must go soon, email if interested.

18 years

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Where to find memory ICs?

by trag＠io.com

Message: 3 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:28:19 -0500 From: Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org> Subject: Re: Where to find memory ICs? To: General at mail.mobygames.com, "Discussion at mail.mobygames.com":On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <489B7703.7050009 at oldskool.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Glen Slick wrote: >> I just want a few tubes of these to populate the board, I'm not looking >> for a box of 'em :-) Any pointers? > > www.unicornelectronics.com > 511000-100 $1.89 quanity 25-99 I want to use these to populate an Above Board from 2MB to 8MB, and that would require 6*9*1.89 = $102.06 for just 6MB of RAM. Does anyone know of a cheaper way to get DRAM? $100 just so I can add 6MB of RAM to a card doesn't seem right... I came to this discussion late, so apologies if I missed the point. However, in answer to your last question, I have found desoldering memory chips from old SIMMs to be a workable method. I wanted a bunch of 16M X 4 FPM DRAM and the cheapest way to get it was off of 128 MB 72 pin SIMMs which were selling for about $10 each when carefully shopped for on Ebay. Each SIMM holds 16 chips so the price was well under $1 per chip. Plus there were a handful on 16M X 1 chips on boards as well for parity. Anyway, your target memory chips might be cheaply available on old 30 pin or 72 pin SIMMs. The biggest obstacle would be a requirement for DIPs. Most SIMMs have SOJ chips on board, rather than DIPs. Jeff Walther

18 years

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Upgrading early BIOS (micro firmware ATA pro flash)

by brad＠heeltoe.com

In this discussion I kept waiting for someone to talk about the "Micro Firmware ATA Pro Flash" Did someone mention it and I missed it? They were http://www.firmware.com but they seem to be gone, sadly. It's a little ISA bus card which has code on it; The code seems to run as part of the bios bring up and it has allowed me to run newer, modern drives in old machines, "fixing" the bios problem. Or at least I thought it did. Maybe I'm on the wrong track. Every time I've used one I've been happy. I've bought 3-4 of them now. Perhaps they are not available anymore. -brad

18 years

1
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free - two large 9 track tape units; boston area

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Hi I have two (2x) 9-track tape units I no longer need. These are rack mounted units, not currently in racks. One is brand new. I'm pretty sure both have pertec interfaces and could be driven from most any pertec interface. I believe both will read 800 bpi & 1600 tapes. Not sure if they will go beyond that. The are physically clean and in good shape. Anyone want them? If you do, these need to be picked up. They are way too heavy for shipping. ps: if someone take them *both* I will offer to throw in a 19" rack on wheels. it's clean and in good shape with a dec power module on the bottom. -brad Brad Parker Heeltoe Consulting +1-781-483-3101 http://www.heeltoe.com

18 years

2
1
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Xerox 820-II

by snhirsch＠gmail.com

Does anyone in the northeast have a working Xerox 820-II system they'd like to part with? I have a line on one out West, but the shipping is going to be murderous. Steve --

18 years

2
3
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IBM 6094-020 LPFK (Lighted Program Function Keyboard)

by classiccmp＠philpem.me.uk

Hi, I've just got my two LPFKs -- one of which is now sitting out on the bench. The stuff on the codeninja page about the LPFK protocol seems to be inaccurate; my LPFK is completely mute. I can set the switch on the back to Loopback, which makes the light for whatever keys I press light up, but in "live" mode nothing happens at all. I've got a scope probe on the TX output of the MAX232 (pin 14), which connects straight to the serial connector, but all I've got is a steady -10V (negative ten volts) level. The crystal is oscillating and the 8051 appears to be running code. If I ground the RXD line (serial break?) and then release it, the LPFK resets and does its startup dance. Still no output after this, though. I suspect it's expecting some form of init sequence. Does anyone have an LPFK, the PC connection kit and the relevant software to hand? A serial trace would be tremendously useful. Has anyone managed to get one of these things working? I did spot a thread in the archive started by Michael Brutman -- <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2007-July/082612.html>. Nothing after that until Paxton Hoag's LPFK bulk-order earlier this year though. Thanks, -- Phil. classiccmp at philpem.me.uk http://www.philpem.me.uk/

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PERQemu v0.2 and a Request for Software

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Just in case anyone's interested, a new and significantly improved > PERQemu v0.2 is available Would you be willing to make the sources available at some point to help document the hardware, and make it possible to put it on something other than Windows?

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PERQemu v0.2 and a Request for Software

by derschjo＠msu.edu

Just in case anyone's interested, a new and significantly improved PERQemu v0.2 is available at: http://yahozna.dyndns.org/computers/perq/emulator/v0.2/ I would consider this a fairly usable release (v0.1 was very buggy). Improvements include: - A 25% or so speed increase (yay!) - A more or less complete and accurate Z80 simulation, which makes many, many more things work correctly. - Kriz Tablet support - now you can actually USE those graphical applications! - RS232 support (yes, now YOU can use a VT100 emulator running inside of a PERQ emulator to talk to your VAX!) - (Nearly) complete Floppy and Hard Disk support. Enough works to allow bringing up a completely fresh installation of POS on a new hard disk, from floppy. Next up on the list of things to do: Real RasterOp emulation, followed by 16K CPU support. Can't wait to run Accent on this thing... If any of you get a chance to try this out, I'd love to hear some feedback. If anyone out there has any PERQ1/1A compatible software that hasn't already been archived on Bitsavers (I know, it's unlikely...), please drop me a line. Much of the software that's been archived is for the PERQ2, which is incompatible in tiny (but annoying) ways. In particular, versions of POS G.x or any release of Accent that can run on the PERQ1A would be wonderful to have. (As an aside: Al Kossow - thank you so much for Bitsavers...) Additionally, if any of you have working PERQ1's and are willing to run it for a few hours to dump an image of your hard disk, let me know. It would be nice to have some other "real" hard disk images to work with. Thanks, Josh

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Terak 8510 system on eBay

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Yep. price > $1,000 == investment grade AT this point I would usually remark about how rare machines didn't used to be about big bucks, but that horse died long, long ago. I'll return to my coffin now . . . . -- Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote: Got it! Actually I got it for less than I expected -- $1275. Still, its the single most expensive item I've bought to date. However, I'd say this is going to be one of the most important items in my collection of graphics gear. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/> ____________________________________________________________ Fast Computer Training. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mAUC2eSzWdxFOW3XKWiahm67…

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Plus Hardcard 20 software?

by trixter＠oldskool.org

Against better judgement, I attempted to low-level format a Plus Hardcard 20 and completely borked it (with the wrong format, the controller won't init and the thing is now a brick). Does anyone have the Plus Hardcard 20 install diskette? The HardCard is shipped in a partitioned and formatted state, with a number of files included on it. The directory of files is as follows: INSTALL EXE 47479 1-01-80 12:06a HCD BAT 30 1-01-80 12:07a HCD1 BAT 128 1-01-80 12:07a HCD2 EXE 54769 1-01-80 12:07a HCD3 DAT 13440 1-01-80 12:07a HCD3 DIF 704 1-01-80 12:07a HCD6 SCR 4224 1-01-80 12:07a PREPARE BAT 235 1-01-80 12:08a SHELL BAT 18 1-01-80 12:07a LIGHT COM 145 1-01-80 12:07a SOUND COM 145 1-01-80 12:07a PATCHFMT EXE 12670 1-01-80 12:08a INSTALL DAT 425 1-01-80 12:06a The original Plus install program creates a floppy diskette containing the Plus files, as above, but also performs several other operations to make it what they refer to as the "REINSTALL" diskette. This Reinstall diskette can later be used for reformatting the HardCard. Anyone have this?? I am killing myself for bricking the card and would really love to get it back. -- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ Help our electronic games project: http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ A child borne of the home computer wars: http://trixter.wordpress.com/

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Upgrading early BIOS

by Hollandia＠ccountry.net

Eric J Korpela wrote: >On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Al Hartman <alhartman at yahoo.com> wrote: >> Why not try adding a PCI IDE adapter? It will have it's own BIOS that will >> over-ride the internal BIOS. > >With an Award 486 BIOS v1.01, this machine doesn't have PCI slots. In >fact I doubt that it would even have VESA Local Bus (VLB) slots. I >would make a wild assed guess that this is a reworked 386 motherboard >with 7 ISA slots, 3 of which are 16bit and one of which has a >proprietary 32bit ISA extension for use as memory expansion. > >How close did I come, Kurt? > >Eric > > I don't know exactly. This machine was bought used and I am only just starting to learn things about it. I wish I could be of more help.

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Upgrading early BIOS

by Hollandia＠ccountry.net

Fred Cisin wrote: > >Does the Packard Bell hardware support cable select? > I honestly don't know. I had thought they all did. >> Can someone suggest a good book that goes into this type of thing? > >Scott Mueller's Repairing and Upgrading PCs >prob'ly 3 or 4 editions before the current one. Try maybe ed 12 or 13 > > > I will look for a copy of it. Thanks.

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by Hollandia＠ccountry.net

Michael Lee wrote: > >As for books, just an old copy of Upgrading and Repairing PCs is a great >reference in my opinion. > > Thanks, Michael. I'll look for a copy of it.

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Upgrading early BIOS

by Hollandia＠ccountry.net

Chuck Guzis wrote: > >Given that this is a 486, I don't think that the BIOS is your >problem. I've used OPTI chipset 486s with two drives with no >problem. > >What kind of IDE cable are you using to hook up the second drive? If >it's an 80-conductor (UDMA) cable, then it's likely that the old IDE >controller can't see the drive. You need the 40-conductor cable. >You may also have to jumper the drive to restrict it to 8GB or less >(some drives can do this). > >FWIW, >Chuck > > The cable is a 40-pin ribbon cable (the old kind).

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Z80 CP/M home brew computer project PCBs available

by lynchaj＠yahoo.com

Hi! I am continuing work on the N8VEM project. So far the SBC phase appears to be a success. There are many successful builders. The next phase has started. I just received an order of ECB backplane PCBs. I am assembling my own ECB backplane using standard off-the-shelf-parts. The ECB backplane can be used with the N8VEM SBC for IO expansion. It is intended for the "heavy" IO devices like Disk controllers and video boards. I am presently working on an ECB bus monitor to assist in the development of builder developed ECB peripherals. However, the ECB bus monitor will probably not be available for several weeks. After the ECB bus monitor project, I will continue on with the N8VEM Disk IO peripheral. It will have an IDE and NEC765 based FDC. All hardware and software information is freely available and I will help you the best I can to build your system. Obviously, most builders are highly skilled individuals who choose to highly customize their systems and don't need any of my help. Builders are encouraged to share their experiences on the N8VEM forums to help others. This has been quite successful in identifying and resolving various bugs. If you are interested in either the N8VEM SBC or ECB backplane PCBs to build your own home brew Z80 CP/M computer, please contact me offline. The SBC and the ECB backplane PCBs are available for low cost ($20 each plus shipping). Thank you in advance. Have a nice day! Andrew Lynch PS, you can get additional information here: http://groups.google.com/group/n8vem

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Terak 8510 system on eBay

by aek＠bitsavers.org

You can find a Terak emulator here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bk-terak-emu/ Schematics of the boards would be nice to find. I have pics of the boards on bitsavers. If it ends up you're missing boards, I have a CPU, but no monitor or keyboard, and at this point it seems about as likely to finding a kb/monitor for my PERQ.

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Terak 8510 system on eBay

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Geez, that hurts. They're 'investment grade' systems now. Major bummer. I saw a couple, some years ago, rusting away in a scrapyard in the midwest. They used to belong to Boeing. Damaged beyond all repair. Lots of heartache to go around . . . . -- Steven Hirsch <snhirsch at gmail.com> wrote: >> It's listed for $199 plus shipping for the main unit <sigh> I picked up three or four units with disk drives about 12 years ago at University of Vermont's surplus sale. Had no idea what they were and could not find anyone who did. Ended up parting them out and keeping the drive mechanisms. Blast. Steve -- ____________________________________________________________ Click to make millions by owning your own franchise. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m6iRzCLyaA7qgoeQCz0rN6r7…

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PCB Artwork for DEC card edge fingers

by chd_1＠nktelco.net

Does anybody have a PC board cad layout of the DEC card edge connector? I was hoping to find it in PCB (http://pcb.sourceforge.net/index.html) format. I would like to have some boards fabricated that were just fingers and connection pads. I will attach the fingers to some Vector boards and do point-to-point wiring. I have some project ideas for OMNIBUS and QBus, but DEC protoboards are rare and/or expensive. I have little experience with layout work and so far have been frustrated by my attempts. -chuck

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More ETH Lilith goodies available

by julianskidmore＠yahoo.com

Hi Dave, > I'd love to see something like this happen. Are the Lilith's > internals documented well enough to allow for something like this? They weren't until Jos Dreesen provided the ftp address: ftp://jdreesen.dyndns.org/ftp/lilith What there was effectively user documentation / research papers on the Lilith hardware / software and the Medos operating system and a PC version of the Lilith modula-2 compiler (with an MCode interpreter) in both source and object form. But now we have systems disks, source code, microcode and schematics. So we can emulate lilith at a variety of levels from, say, a simple Linux/X11 software version to a low-level TTL reproduction (thought you'd have to source AMD29xx bit-slice processor parts). Importantly for me the new information contains it's bitmap formats so my MCode interpreter in 'C' can support the missing graphics opcodes. Lilith is really an impressive European graphics workstation, which although not as revolutionary as the Alto was certainly radical for the time even though it predated the Macintosh by only 2 or 3 years. Amongst its many interesting facets: * The display was geared to PAL video standards, hence the 768x594, 50Hz interlaced format (of course this means it can be emulated on any SVGA or higher-resolution display). * MCode is well suited to microcode and cpu emulation making it easily ported to the pdp-11, and 8086. * They used a kind of 8086 segmentation scheme to get around 64kW limits. * It could run Modula-2 about 3x faster than an Alto could run Mesa. * It was a true programmer's machine running Modula-2 from the ground up. In that sense it was an experiment in using the latest GUI ideas for systems development (wheras Alto was primarily an experiment in easy-to-use personal computing for non-technical people). In the end it's the use of MCode which should allow a firmware-level emulation to run original systems disks on a simple Microcontroller and that kinda interests me: A lilith for only a few ?/?/$ :-) So, one day I'll have my own Lilith, and it will fit in my pocket ;-) -cheers from Julz @P

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Upgrading early BIOS

by dm561＠torfree.net

---------Original Message(s): Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:24:55 -0700 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> Subject: Re: Upgrading early BIOS On 14 Aug 2008 at 10:55, M H Stein wrote: > Well, I never knew that just replacing the cable in my 386 and 486 systems > would speed things up; live and learn. I always thought that if the mobo > wasn't pin 34 aware and UDMA capable then the cable wouldn't have much > effect on the transfer mode. AFAIK in order to use UDMA all three items > have to be UDMA capable, the mobo, the cable and the drives, although > I'd say that, assuming it's UDMA aware, the mobo controls the speed > depending on what kind of cable and drives it sees. Semantics? Partly, I suppose. I can speak only from (a pile of) experience. Using a UDMA cable can create some real problems with older systems. And some early supposedly-UDMA-capable systems can't handle the full transfer rate of UDMA-133. IDE's pretty much been a mess from Day One. For example, I've got an early IDE drive that flips the endian-sense on the word pair returned for the total number of sectors on the drive. It was not uncommon for drives from two different manufacturers not to work as master- slave on the same cable. At any rate, for the OP my advice stands. Use a 40-conductor cable and forget about cable select--jumper for master and slave. And cross your fingers and offer up a chicken or two to whatever deity is in charge of IDE operation. Cheers, Chuck ----------Reply: Ah, now those 3 paragraphs I agree with 100% (although I'm not sure that IDE deities care for chicken); anything else was surely just semantics ;-) m

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68000 ASM

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi, I am writing a little 68000 ASM code so I can add a few of my own commands to AMOS Basic. Whilst searching online I found this great page: http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=84 It mentions a "green-covered" issue of Byte with programming tips for the 68000 (eg. moveq #0 is faster than clr.l 0!). Does anyone have this issue and can I have a copy of it? Or at the very least, the issue number so I can hunt it down, please? Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk

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PCB Artwork for DEC card edge fingers

by gerhard.kreuzer＠liftoff.at

Hi, I found a program, which converts a .brd file into Protel format. I can import Protel format into my Altium designer system. If you still interested, please send me your files. Thanks. By the way, I used EAGLE more than 20 years ago, but it doesnt meet any of the design creterias of commercial PCB development, so I drop it. Maybe the system is better now, but I can tell you, I dont need a day or a week to create a component, I just need 10 minutes to create components with 20 to 40 Pins, including different packages (Through hole and SMD). And I am not a?professional PCB designer, I only do two or three simple projects a year. Cheers Gerhard

18 years

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Software for Transtronics/Intronics EPROM programmer

by rf.technologies＠gmail.com

Something over a year ago you posted that you had a backup copy of the software for the Intronics Pocket Programmer. Is this perchance the original parallel printer port version? Due to a calamity of stupid human tricks when the Company I work for sold off one of its product lines the software for the programmer (which we still have) went with the sale and I suddenly have a need to burn some 2764 EPROMS to upgrade the firmware in a old system but I can't get approval for a new burner "because we'll never need it again" (famous last words) so if you still have the software I'd be interested. TIA, Bob Fay Bob Fay Mutualink Mail: rf.technologies at gmail.com

18 years

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Upgrading early BIOS

by dm561＠torfree.net

----------Original Message(s): Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:49:02 -0700 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> Subject: Re: Upgrading early BIOS On 13 Aug 2008 at 9:12, Eric J Korpela wrote: > The concept of "cable select" hadn't been invented when this machine > was built. Use master/slave. Is not the operation of "cable select" a function of the cable and not the mobo? If the OP is using a "cable select" IDE cable, he can use CS with no problem. That business with him mentioning CS is what made me wonder if he wasn't also using a UDMA cable (which by the standard also supports CS). (It's starting to get pretty hard to find *new* non-UDMA cables nowadays). If that's the case, then any UDMA-capable drives will be operating in that mode, which will not work with his old system. If he's using non-UDMA drives, then the cable won't matter. Cheers, Chuck ---------------Reply: AFAIK cable select has always been an option with Parallel ATA drives, although it was rarely used in pre-UDMA days; the cable was obviously different (40 conductors with standard connectors vs. 80 conductors and unique special connectors) and the order of the drives was usually reversed (i.e. the slave on the end of the cable). It's the motherboard that determines the cable type and mode from pin 34, which is grounded at the mobo end in a UDMA cable, so if the mobo isn't UDMA-aware I don't think the drives would be, and the cable wouldn't matter. Also, not all drives supported CS. Bottom line: don't use CS with pre-UDMA drives, cables and/or motherboards unless you're certain that all three support it, and even master/slave can be problematic with very old IDE drives. More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Drive_Electronics m

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IBM EGA Programming manual: anyone have a copy?

by jzg22＠drexel.edu

------------------------------ > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:02:51 +0100 (BST) > From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) > Subject: Re: IBM EGA Programming manual: anyone have a copy? > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Message-ID: <m1KSnuA-000J1gC at p850ug1> > Content-Type: text/plain > > >> I'm searching for a copy of the official IBM EGA programming >> manual/reference manual. >> If I recall correctly, in order to actually GET that manual you needed >> to have bought the $150? CGA/MDA programming/reference manual (or >> something like that) and have sent in the little registration card, and >> IBM sent you the EGA one in the mail. >> Does anyone have a copy of it? >> > > I assuem this is not the EGA section from the O&A Techref. I have that, > it inculdes the BIOS ROM source listing, schematics, and details of all > the I/O ports used, but no explict programing info with examples. > > >> (a copy of the cga/mda one would be nice too, but isn't nearly as important) >> Contact me off-list (or on-list if you'd like) if you do, I'm quite >> > > Again, I have the apporopriate TechRef sections... > > -tony > > > > ------------------------------ > Yes, it was that. Barry Watzman sent me a scan of his photocopied copy of it. -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu(@t)hotmail(d0t)com jzg22(@t)drexel(d0t)edu

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Upgrading early BIOS

by Hollandia＠ccountry.net

Fred Cisin asked >Did you set the CMOS to 2 drives? (1) >Which drive types are supported in the CMOS? (2) (1) Yes I did. (2) The BIOS screens give the following drive selections The following abbreviations are used in the table: Cylinders: CYL Heads: HDS Write Precomp: WP Landing Zone: LZ Sectors: SCT MegaBytes: MB Disk Type CYL HDS WP LZ SCT MB 1 306 4 128 305 17 10 2 615 4 300 615 17 20 3 615 6 300 615 17 30 4 940 8 512 940 17 62 5 940 6 512 940 17 46 6 615 4 -1 615 17 20 7 462 8 256 511 17 30 8 733 5 -1 733 17 30 9 900 15 -1 901 17 112 10 895 15 -1 895 62 406 11 1054 16 -1 1054 63 518 12 855 7 -1 855 17 49 13 306 8 128 319 17 20 14 733 7 -1 733 17 42 15 There is no listing for this drive type 16 987 12 -1 988 35 202 17 977 5 300 977 17 40 18 977 7 -1 977 17 56 19 1024 7 512 1023 17 59 20 880 11 0 0 17 81 21 903 8 0 0 46 162 22 1024 16 0 0 17 136 23 914 14 0 0 17 106 24 1001 15 0 0 17 124 25 977 7 977 977 26 86 26 1024 4 -1 1023 17 34 27 1024 5 -1 1023 17 42 28 1024 8 -1 1023 17 68 29 980 10 980 990 17 81 30 1024 10 0 0 17 85 31 832 6 832 832 33 80 32 1020 15 -1 1024 17 127 33 776 8 0 0 33 100 34 1024 12 0 0 17 102 35 1024 9 1024 1024 17 76 36 1024 5 512 1024 17 42 37 830 10 -1 830 17 68 38 823 10 256 824 17 68 39 980 14 -1 990 30 200 40 615 8 128 664 17 40 41 917 15 -1 918 17 114 42 1023 15 -1 1024 17 127 43 823 10 512 823 17 68 44 820 6 -1 820 17 40 45 1024 8 -1 1024 17 68 The BIOS also allows two User-Defined Types, in which the parameters can have the following ranges: Cylinders: 0-9999 Heads: 0-99 Write Precomp: 0-9999 Landing Zone: 0-9999 Sectors: 0-99 The machine will not recognize ANY second drive. The drives I have tried are all consideraby bewer than the BIOS and I just can't think of any other reason why they would not be recognized. I have tried the "cable select" settings on all of them. I assume that the MASTER/SLAVE methodology is not mandatory. Can someone suggest a good book that goes into this type of thing? Thanks, Kurt

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FS: S-100 boards

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

More stuff I'd forgotten I had. I was starting to build an 8080-based S-100 computer in the late 1970's, but lost interest when I bought an Apple IIe system for "only" $2000 (in 1982 dollars!) Anyway, there is: 1) Wameco CPU-1, mostly populated including the 8080A. Looks like the 8224 and 8228 are not there, though. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zef37s&s=4 2) Ithaca Audio 8K 2102 board, fully socketed and populated. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=29lefr8&s=4 3) Piiceon 8K Program Saver (2708 EPROM programmer). Complete except for the TL497CN switching regulator chip. Includes two 2708's. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2r7x7jt&s=4 NOTE: The above three boards were never powered up or tested. No idea if they will actually work or not! 4) Solid State Music VB-1B Video Interface. This one was actually working with a different (homebrewed) 8080A board way back in 1979. I think it's 64 characters x 16 lines, monochrome of course. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2qa6bde&s=4 Please make offer on one or all. Shipping will be from zip 65775 (US). Somewhere I have a Wameco "Little Mother Board" backplane too, but haven't gotten that far down into the junkpile yet. thanks Charles

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Upgrading early BIOS

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Why not try adding a PCI IDE adapter? It will have it's own BIOS that will over-ride the internal BIOS. You can even add a PCI SATA adapter for that matter. Computer Geeks have them pretty cheap. IF your 486 Board has PCI Slots. I know I have an ISA IDE Adapter from Future Domain here that I've never used, but I don't know if it's going to work any better with newer drives. Al

18 years

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SDS/XDS Sigma systems

by RichA＠vulcan.com

If anyone on the list is aware of Sigma equipment still in existence, please contact me. I am aware that Honeywell forcibly retired the systems as service contracts expired in the early 80s, and that this will be very rare if it does exist at all. Thanks, Rich Rich Alderson RichA at vulcan.com Server Engineer, PDPplanet Project (206) 342-2239 Vulcan, Inc., 505 5th Avenue S, Seattle, WA 98104 (206) 465-2916 cell

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Paper Tape Reader

by dm561＠torfree.net

----------Original Message: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:48:09 -0600 From: "B M" <iamvirtual at gmail.com> Subject: Paper Tape Reader Does anyone know of a source for a [relatively] cheap paper tape reader suitable for reading standard DEC paper tapes? I have several paper tapes from a PDP-11/20 that I would like to read, and of course, share :-). Something like the OP-80 from Oliver Engineering would be suitable. Thanks. --barrym ----------Reply: I've got 4 or 5 different models of PPT readers (and some perfs), but none quite as simple as the OP-80 and they'd all require some custom interfacing; what's [relatively] cheap ??? Contact me off-list if interested; thanks. mike

18 years

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questbusters

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Does anyone here have a collection of Questbusters newsletters? I just acquired some from my brother who asked me to sell them. I'd like to see if I can get scans gathered together. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

18 years

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Intel 4004 from discrete SMD transistors

by wbblair3＠yahoo.com

About the web page I posted the link for yesterday: http://www.4004.com/ I emailed the owner of the site to ask a question and got an interesting response: The right-hand 4004 exhibit photo at the top of the page looks like a 4004 reproduced with surface mount devices on a PC board. Is that what it is? If so, where is it specifically discussed in the text? Thanks, Bill Hi Bill, Those are indeed surface-mount transistors positioned where the original transistors are on the chip, but the photo is of a non-functional prototype currently on exhibit at the Intel Museum. Alas, we are still working on our ultimate goal of building a fully functional reproduction of the 4004, and displaying that in a museum or two. There is no write-up because this ambitious part of the saga is still in-progress, and because we're all busy professionals with "day jobs," there is currently no estimated completion date. Since you expressed an interest, here's where we're at: we have a verified netlist from the schematics, and an unverified netlist we painstakingly extracted from the mask artwork. It contains key geometry information we need for layout and routing, but also some errors we need to find and fix. We ran into a snag reconciling the two netlists (it is an "NP hard" problem), but I think we're getting close to a solution. Then we can move to the PC board layout stage, build another giant prototype, and start debugging... I'm crossing my fingers and praying that we can finish the project by this upcoming 37th anniversary of the 4004 product announcement back on November 15 of 1971. --Tim

18 years

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Correction - WTD: H742a Power Supply PDP 11/40

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

Correction to earlier post. I am looking for a H742a Power Supply PDP 11/40. Bill

18 years

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Terak 8510 system on eBay

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> It's listed for $199 plus shipping for the main unit It's being watched. Thanks to sniping, and eBay hiding of the bidder name, there is no incentive to 'tag' anything with a bid any more.

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