- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Does anyone have any ideas on how to rehab cables that have gone stiff? Case in point, most of my old Apple cables are semi-permenantly set into odd curly shapes. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

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[FS] university surplus

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: [FS] university surplus > From: Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at Update.UU.SE> > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:53:52 +0100 > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > >Hi > >A guy popped up on the vintage computer forums advertising his ebay >sales of surplus items. Some nice DEC and Sun gear: > >http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=14859 > >The PDT-11 caught my eye, what is that thing? Some kind of micro-11 > >Cheers, >Pontus. In one word Yes. PDT-11 is one of three possible configurations The most popular is the PDT-11/150 with is a box with 2 8" floppies (rx01 equivilent) that can run RT11 (cpu is LSI-11 + up to 28KW of ram and up to 6 serial ports). Next most common is PDT11/130 which is a Vt100 with base PDT11 CPU but instead of Floppies it has a parallel interface TU-58 dectape mounted. Each tapes are 256kb so it can store the same as RX01 Floppy and it can run RT11, but tape IO is SLOW. Least common was the PDT11/110 with is the Vt100 with bast PDT11 cpu but NO local storage device. The expectation with this is to remotely load it with MOP protocal from a host. Allison

17 years, 4 months

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DEQNA/DELQA cab kits the same or different?

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

Hi, All, I'm going through a box of DEC boards and I found a DELQA, probably my only one, and in the box is a cab kit with "DEQNA" stenciled below the AUI connector (DEC P/N 7-21202-1K). Will it work or do I need a DELQA-specific cable? I have very little Qbus Ethernet experience, or Unibus Ethernet experience... or for that matter, VAXBI Ethernet experience - in fact, the only DEC machines I've ever worked with that _had_ Ethernet were desktop/busless systems (uVAX 2000, MIPS machines...) Any and all advice or suggestions welcome. I remember that there was a driver issue/VMS version issue between DEQNAs and DELQAs (and DESQAs?) but since I never had to set any of them up when they were new, the details have eluded my memory. Thanks, -ethan

17 years, 4 months

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Large cache of classic computer in Umeå, Sweden

by axelsson＠acc.umu.se

Hi List! I'm helping a friend to empty a storage which he has to have empty by the end of the month so time is short. This message is a mix between "look what I've got" and "Help, need a good home for this lot". I'm taking over a large part of this collection but I can only take care of the most precious computers. The contents of the storage is a lot of personal stuff and other random objects, but he also collects old computers with focus on Norsk Data machines. More or less of what we can see so far, this is the major parts... - ND-5700, two full rack, one complete, one missing a CPU. I'll take care of this system. - ND-Filestore, disks and tape. I'll take this one too - ND-110 Compact, 4 machines. I'll save all and reserve one for my self. - ND-110 Satellite, about 10 machines. I'll try to save all, reserving one or two myself. - ND-Butterfly, 2-3 machines, all spoken for. - A huge stash of manuals. Will be saved and scanned. A lot of doubles exists. See the list at http://www.ndwiki.org/wiki/Virtual_library#ND_Library_Teg_in_Ume.C3.A5 - ND-Notis terminals. (Nokia VT220 terminals). Circa 80 terminals. Only a few are spoken for, anything left near the end of the month will go into the dumpster. :-( - NEC Monograph, new systems in boxes 4-6 systems, complete with graphics controller and all. For running DTP under Win 3.0/3.1, monochrome monitor Maybe two spoken for. - A lot of Archie computer laptop parts, 286. - ISA IDE controllers, new in box. approximately 30 cards. - Some IBM system 3 manuals, RPG2 - ... plus a lot more that I can't remember right now. We have found a number of other computers among all the scrap, some really nice ones. I liked the ABC 1600, an unix machine made by Luxor with a twistable screen with white phosphor. But those computers are going to remain in my friends custody. If time permits we could send stuff by mail or in some other way. We might store some stuff if we know we could ship it off after the move but this month will take all our time just to clear space and move the bigger machines around. Local pickup is preferred and will get priority over any shipping. My phone number is int+46 (0)73 98 67 881. /G?ran

17 years, 4 months

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Surplus stores in San Francisco / Silicon Valley.

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Your first, last, and perhaps only stop should be Weird Stuff Warehouse. yuk If you're in town this weekend, go to the DeAnza College flea market Saturday morning.

17 years, 4 months

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xxdp diag listings? FKACA0.BIC?

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Does anyone have xxdp diagnostic listings, specifically for some of the 11/34 diagnostics, like FKACA0.BIC? I am led to believe the diag listings were put out on microfiche. Any chance someone has scanned these? thanks -brad

17 years, 4 months

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The VAX is running

by david＠thecoolbears.org

After a very long wait and a lot of effort, my VAX is finally running OpenVMS. So, you know how boat builders break a bottle of Champaign on their new creations? Well, my tradition is to get Colossal Caves running on all new machines. The problem is that while I can find lots of downloads for OpenVMS, none of them seem to work. Mostly it seems like FTP'ing the data file corrupts it. Any suggestion on how to get advent running on VMS?

17 years, 4 months

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LA30 - anyone got one?

by legalize＠xmission.com

I always thought the VT05 was DEC's first terminal, but it appears that the LA30 was introduced contemporaneously with the VT05. Does anyone have an LA30 in their collection? I know a few people here have a VT05, but I don't recall anyone saying that they have an LA30. If you have one, we could use some decent pictures of it. The extant pictures on the net are small and don't show the keyboard and controls clearly, nor do they show an example of the output. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

17 years, 4 months

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GSA: Concurrent Computer setup (Houston, TX)

by legalize＠xmission.com

Item 71QSCI09223115 (search for this on their site) Looks like a honkin' big pile of NASA gear. Anyone near Houston on the list? -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

17 years, 4 months

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HP262x keyboard voltage

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

Does anyone have an HP262x (2621, 2623, etc) terminal (with a DA15 keyboard connector) and a voltmeter to hand? If so, could you please open up the keyboard (4 screws on the bottom), plug the keyboard into the terminal, power up, and measure the voltage either between ; Pin 16 (+ve) and pin 8 (-ve) of any of the 3 chips in the keyboard Or Across the electrolytic capacitor on the keyboard PCB to the left of the 'Tab' key' Alternatively, measure the voltage between pins 12 (+ve) and 10 (-ve) of the DA15 socket on the terminal (temrinal powered up, it doesn't matter whether the keyboard is plugged in or not) All 3 should be the same voltage. I am guessing it's 12V, but it might be 5V. Tnakis in advance for any help. -tony

17 years, 4 months

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HP 9825 16K 09825-66523 memoryboard failure

by hp-fix＠xs4all.nl

I have a 16K memoryboard for my HP9825A it suffered from a bad -12V and destroyed all the rams TMS4080. I bought from ICI 32 pcs. nos uPD411AC-2 replaced all the rams but I'm getting an error when testing the board. The HP9825 isn't under suspect because it works okay with another 16k board. The systemtest (from the tape) says : 60K board failes Address 60100,60300,60400 not always the same sometimes only 60400. Bit 9 sense 0 or 1 (not consistent sometimes 1 sometimes 0) I swapped the LB9 and UB9 chips on the board with other 411's(new ones) But the error stays I replaced the refreshcounters decoupling caps but nothing. So any ideas are welcome. -Rik

17 years, 4 months

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PDP-8/M power supply questions

by toby＠coreware.co.uk

I've just started the rebuild of one of my PDP-8/Ms. This is an early machine with the power supply mounted on the left of the chassis. One potential problem I am slightly concerned about is that the front two power transistors have been desoldered and removed. Does anyone know if these are a vital part of the PSU and if so what the part numbers are so I can try to source replacements? You can see a picture here http://www.pdp8.co.uk/ (enlarged view here http://www.pdp8.co.uk/files/2009/03/00016.jpg) If anyone else has a PSU of this type, could they take the opportunity to take a few pictures for me. Would be really useful to have another reference source for the rebuild. All the best, Toby -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

17 years, 4 months

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Surplus stores in San Francisco / Silicon Valley.

by andrew＠smokebelch.org

I'm over in San Francisco on a mixture of business and pleasure, and was wondering if there are any electronic surplus stores I should check out? They don't have to be chock-full of vintage computing bargains (if such places exist anywhere any more) -- even places with surplus components would be good... Cheers, Andrew

17 years, 4 months

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Text differences (Was: The VAX is running)

by david＠thecoolbears.org

>> Source files should not be giving you a 'record problem' (since they're >> text) - but there is another potential issue. I downloaded some BASIC >> source files on a PC, zipped them up and transferred them over to a VAX. >> I picked one to compile (this is BASIC we're talking about), and it >> failed with an error per line. I opened up the file in TPU and >> discovered that there was a 'spurious' CR at the end of each line. I >> removed those and everything compiled and linked. Take a look at the >> line-level translation that may be happening. -- Ian > New-line is not really standardized. > Although the machines may all claim to be using ASCII, > newline may be represented by > CR LF, > CR, > LF, > or LF CR (rarest) > > The reasons are enough for a thread of its own. This is almost exactly what I was seeing. I was able to resolve the problem by NOT transferring the source files with FTP's binary image mode turned on. I was then able to compile the source and I'm now in a maze of twisty passages all alike.

17 years, 4 months

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YASBEC documentation needed

by snhirsch＠gmail.com

Title says it. Does anyone know if the documentation for the YASBEC single-board computer has been scanned or is otherwise available? I have one, along with an unassembled memory board and the PCB for what appears to be a video card. Cannot find a shred of information on either of these. Steve --

17 years, 4 months

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The VAX is running

by david＠thecoolbears.org

> Did you try this copy of the code? It appears to have the data file > in plain-text (atext.txt). > > <http://simh.trailing-edge.com/games/adventure.zip> I tried that and atext.txt looks better, but the fortran source files are still messed up some how - at least they won't compile and the error messages imply that there is still a record problem. I also tried a precompiled executable with the improved atext.txt, but that doesn't work either.

17 years, 4 months

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That museum dumping vintage apples is at it again.

by brianlanning＠gmail.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-37-Vintage-APPLE-Macintosh-Museum-Surplus_W0QQit… http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-Commodore-128-64-Peripherals-Museum-Surplus_W0QQ… I wish I lived around there. Pickup only. brian

17 years, 4 months

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vintage computer sighting

by legalize＠xmission.com

In the first part of "Three Days of the Condor", there is a PDP-11 clearly visible with tan colored panels and switches. I didn't see a shot close enough to read the model number, however. There is also a very loud printing terminal shown, one I haven't seen before, but its cabinet styling is similar to the styling on the VT05 cabinet. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

17 years, 4 months

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LA30 - anyone got one?

by dm561＠torfree.net

---------------Original Message: Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:50:29 -0500 From: Tom Uban <uban at ubanproductions.com> Subject: Re: LA30 - anyone got one? I have an LA30 in my collection, although it isn't easily accessible at the moment. Unfortunately, the LA30 uses a non-standard paper width, or perhaps it was standard at the time and just isn't anymore. This combined with immovable tractor feeds make getting paper for it difficult. --tom ---------------Reply: Any idea what the actual width is? I'm about to throw out a few boxes of pinfeed paper of various sizes; maybe some is useful after all.

17 years, 4 months

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Tek 40XX keyboard on epay

by hp-fix＠xs4all.nl

190294196331 seller thinks it's made of gold.. -Rik

17 years, 4 months

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New Cromemco Forum

by dm561＠torfree.net

Hi there! In case you hadn't heard, there is now a new Google group for us Cromemco fans at: http://groups.google.com/group/cromemco?hl=en If you're interested why not join us and help make it a friendly place for exchanging info etc. Hope to see you there! Mike

17 years, 4 months

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Wanted: CompuPro, DEC, Hitachi, Sage items [clean text re-post]

by js＠cimmeri.com

I'm looking for the following items for various hobbyist educational projects I'm working on. Top hobbyist dollar paid. - CompuPro CPU-68k S-100 board. - DEC HSD05. - DEC BA353. - DEC BA350 w/ BA35X-VA pedestal kit. - Hitachi Superscan SVGA monitor, models CM1587 or CM1711. - Sage II 68000 computer. I'm in Maryland, so unless local would need shipping. Please reply with asking price and eBay handle if you have one. Thanks very much, jS (mdnttrain on ebay)

17 years, 4 months

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Tek 40XX keyboard on epay

by rikbos＠xs4all.nl

190294196331 seller thinks it's made of gold.. -Rik

17 years, 4 months

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Text differences

by bqt＠softjar.se

Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote: > On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Ian King wrote: >> > Source files should not be giving you a 'record problem' (since they're >> > text) - but there is another potential issue. I downloaded some BASIC >> > source files on a PC, zipped them up and transferred them over to a VAX. >> > I picked one to compile (this is BASIC we're talking about), and it >> > failed with an error per line. I opened up the file in TPU and >> > discovered that there was a 'spurious' CR at the end of each line. I >> > removed those and everything compiled and linked. Take a look at the >> > line-level translation that may be happening. -- Ian > > New-line is not really standardized. Definitely not. > Although the machines may all claim to be using ASCII, > newline may be represented by > CR LF, > CR, > LF, > or LF CR (rarest) ...or just a record end. > The reasons are enough for a thread of its own. If you even think that you can find a reason. :-) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

17 years, 4 months

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Tape records

by bqt＠softjar.se

Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote: > In article <2877e57dba24bc750739ccec428ded28 at lunar-tokyo.net>, > Daniel Seagraves <dseagrav at lunar-tokyo.net> writes: >>> In article >>> <f4eb766f0904031640g7c90507eo92411f16365021e1 at mail.gmail.com>, >>> Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> Back in the day, we used to move copies around on magtape, bypassing >>>> all sorts of stream-of-bytes issues. Today, of course, most things >>>> expect streams of bytes, so that's how most things are presented. >> On Apr 4, 2009, at 12:53 PM, Richard wrote: >> >>> How does magtape avoid the stream-of-bytes issue? >> Magtape has blocks. > > What exactly is a block? > > Is it defined as a sequence of bits or as a sequence of bytes? > > If its just a sequence of bytes that define a block, I'm not sure I > understand how blocks avoid the stream-of-bytes issue. Good question. And people have some interesting answers as well. :-) A tape block is simply a bunch of bytes. The point is that it is a spcific number of bytes. A single read or write will process one tape block. This is important. It means that doing two consequtive writes for n bytes will not produce the same result as one write for 2*n bytes. It also means that if you request to read n bytes, and the tape block is shorter, you will not get data from the next tape block in addition to the current, but instead the read will return less data. Assuming the block is n bytes long, and you request a read for x number of bytes. If x > n you will get the whole block, but no more than the block. If x < n you will only get x bytes from the block, while the rest will be skipped. The next read will read from the next block anyway. Each block is physically separated from other blocks by a inter-block gap. This is meta-data that is not received as a part of a read, but which can be inferred from the number of bytes actually read, unless you get a data overrun error, in which case the block was larger than the read allowed for. In addition to this, you also have something called file marks. When you read and the tape position is at a file mark, you usually get a return value indicating that you read 0 bytes. This is a hint that it was a file mark you passed. Convention then have it that two consequtive file marks indicates the logical end of tape. However, ANSI-formatted tapes look and work slightly different, but that is all still implemented on top of the concept of tape blocks and file marks. Those two details are defined by hardware. This means that a tape can never properly behave like a stream of bytes. As I've said, Unix have a way of trying to make tapes look like a stream of bytes, but noone uses that, since it's not useful, nor meaningful. Even in Unix, you can control these things correctly from a program. That's what ioctls are for. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

17 years, 4 months

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Classic A/V equipment

by ics65＠sbcglobal.net

Does anyone know of any list, group or museum for vintage (1970s) professional Audio/Video equipment enthusiasts? Of course vintage computers were a part of some of this A/V equipment, especially for control systems. If this is off topic, any replies can be sent to my email directly ics65 at sbcglobal.net ,George

17 years, 4 months

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Places to post for wanted vintage computer items?

by js＠cimmeri.com

*There's several old computer items I'm in the market for. Is this an appropriate venue to post? Any recommendations (besides here) for posting vintage "want ads"? Is it more effective to post an entire list within one post, or to have one post per item wanted? Thanks very much for any comments. jS *

17 years, 4 months

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Keypunch that was on eBay

by quapla＠xs4all.nl

Hello Roger, Do you only need to convert the frequency for the motor or for the whole unit? If it is only the motor, you might look for a converter which is used for jukeboxes. Some people here in the Netherlands use a frequency converter for the motor which drives the turntable, the rest of the electronics does work without problems on 50Hz. Regards, Ed > Thanks for whoever it was who posted the info on the IBM 029 keypunch > on eBay. I have won it, nobody else bid. After it has been shipped > across the Atlantic I will have to think about converting it from 60Hz > to 50Hz. I have the remains of a 50Hz verifier which has a 240v / 50Hz > motor I should be able to use. Hopefully the rest runs on DC, so a > step down transformer before the transformers and bridge rectifiers > might be enough. Shipping costs more than the item of course. > > Anyone have any thoughts if it is worth trying the whole thing with > just a 240 - 110 transformer? If the motor burns out, not the end of > the world. > > > -- Certified : VCP 3.x, SCSI 3.x SCSA S10, SCNA S10

17 years, 4 months

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The VAX is running

by bqt＠softjar.se

Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote: > In article <f4eb766f0904031640g7c90507eo92411f16365021e1 at mail.gmail.com>, > Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> writes: > >> > Back in the day, we used to move copies around on magtape, bypassing >> > all sorts of stream-of-bytes issues. Today, of course, most things >> > expect streams of bytes, so that's how most things are presented. > > How does magtape avoid the stream-of-bytes issue? By the simple fact that a tape is *never* a stream of bytes? Unix tries to mimic a stream of bytes on a tape, but as far as I know, noone wants that, and never uses it, instead going to the raw device, and doing all the operations a tape requires anyway. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

17 years, 4 months

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DIP IC test clips

by keithvz＠verizon.net

Hi there. I'm currently using "nose pickers" (a friend at work related that pleasant name) aka XKM grabbers (http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/webtronics_2042_10920298) to attach my low-cost pc-based logic analyzer to some old DIP chips. They are pretty nice but when you start using a bunch in a row, they can get pretty cumbersome. I'm looking for DIP IC test clips for both 40-pin and 48-pin chips. 40-pin doesn't seem too hard to come by, 48-pin seems harder. Here's a picture of what I'm basically looking for: http://www.ap-products.com/images/tc02.gif They clip on the already socketed IC and provide square male header pins on the top of the clip to attach. These are for personal use, and I don't want to spend $100 on clips. Anyone have a line on cheap clips or happen to have any around you want to get rid of? Thanks Keith P.S. I can find plenty of online datasheets from various manufacturers but trying to find a stocking reseller that will sell them onesy twosy to hobbyists is harder.

17 years, 4 months

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DEQNA/DELQA cab kits the same or different?

by tiggerlasv＠aim.com

There are no operational differences that you'll notice between a DEQNA and a DELQA cabinet kit if you're using a PDP-11. There are two extra signal lines on the DELQA vs DEQNA cables, which correspond to "Control in, circuit "A", and "B". The purpose of these, I'm not sure; maybe some sort of throttling or flow control. I doubt the PDP-11 driver uses it. Not so sure about the MicroVax. For basic operations, with a DEQNA-compatible driver, the cables should perform identically, as they are pin-compatible. T

17 years, 4 months

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DEQNA/DELQA cab kits the same or different?

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

> I > have been told that the DEQNAs had problems and would lock up or > experience > other reliability issues. DEQNAs are not supported after about VMS > 5.4/5.5, > which is why I need a DELQA. I am not sure what the minimum VMS version > is > for DELQA though. DEQNAs never worked right, even after 12 revisions. That's why they were dumped and the LQA was created. For moderate loads a QNA should be ok, though. The big problem was that they weren't good enough for Local Area VAXcluster use, which was a big thing in those days. I don't think DECnet was thrilled with them either but DECnet was more tolerant of misbehavior. I don't remember DEQNAs being dumped by the PDP11 operating systems. paul

17 years, 4 months

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DEQNA/DELQA cab kits the same or different?

by bqt＠softjar.se

"Paul Koning" <Paul_Koning at Dell.com> wrote: >> > I >> > have been told that the DEQNAs had problems and would lock up or >> > experience >> > other reliability issues. DEQNAs are not supported after about VMS >> > 5.4/5.5, >> > which is why I need a DELQA. I am not sure what the minimum VMS > version >> > is >> > for DELQA though. > > DEQNAs never worked right, even after 12 revisions. That's why they > were dumped and the LQA was created. For moderate loads a QNA should be > ok, though. The big problem was that they weren't good enough for Local > Area VAXcluster use, which was a big thing in those days. I don't think > DECnet was thrilled with them either but DECnet was more tolerant of > misbehavior. > > I don't remember DEQNAs being dumped by the PDP11 operating systems. That's because they haven't been. :-) I actually have an interesting reverse behaviour, where I can get a DELQA to freeze on my 11/93 running RSX, while a DEQNA will continue working fine. (I do suspect it is because the extra care DECnet takes to keep a QNA ticking which saves me, but anyway... Interesting...) And to answer the OP: the cab kits are the same, modulo the letters under the connector. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

17 years, 4 months

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OT: Opion on Xerox 2825 Laser printer

by cclist＠sydex.com

There's a fellow in town selling a used Xerox 2825 laser printer with duplexer for $100. I'm interested because it will do 11x17. Does anyone have any experience with one of these? Worth looking at or run away? Thanks, Chuck

17 years, 4 months

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PLM86 needed

by jefferwin＠gmail.com

I purchased the Godbout 85/88 card, seems to be working fine so far, although not at 5Mhz. I must have a memory card that can't handle the blazing 5 Mhz access. I am looking for a PLM86 compiler. I have the PLM80 compiler and linker/locator (if anyone needs this, please let me know) but am struggling finding the PLM86 compiler and associated linker/locator. I am currently loading code into my system via a HEX loader I wrote and sending the hex file in via the serial port >from my Mac Pro (yes, a $5000 quad-processor computer serving as a dumb terminal to my 2Mhx 8080). I want to be able to write PLM86 code and do the same for the 8088 on the GodBout card. Anyone know where I can find PLM86? Jeff Erwin

17 years, 4 months

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Apollo 300 and 735 available (SW Georgia)

by cclist＠sydex.com

Just passing this information along from another forum: http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=14990 --Chuck

17 years, 5 months

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Looking for an Ardent Titan

by rdawson16＠hotmail.com

Hi gang, I ask every now and then here if anybody has run across one of these machines or might know sombody willing to part with one. I had one once, new, and want to go back to those days. If you help me find one, I will cross your palm with cash to feed YOUR vintage computer habit. Thanks, Randy _________________________________________________________________ Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MS…

17 years, 5 months

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Dot Matrix head rebuild...Anadex and others.

by jrr＠flippers.com

Anyone have any info on rebuilding the head for a regular 9-pin dot matrix printer? I have an open pin-5 coil on mine, and I would like to take it apart to see if I can repair/replace the coil, BUT I am a bit concerned about taking these things apart. Springs flying off, etc. Looking on-line does not turn up anything (so far) on dismantling these suckers. If necessary I will document it myself, but was hoping the info was already out there! The head I have is an Anadex DPH-100, and the only place on-line that shows them no longer repairs 'em! Nor did the tech I spoke to recall any details... John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"

17 years, 5 months

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Free Program Listings

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

I have updated vintagecomputer.net with some new PDF's of program listings, pictures, and project notes. Bill

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OT: composite video on 1/8" connector

by slawmaster＠gmail.com

This is quite off-topic, but we have such a knowledgeable group here I thought I'd ask: I just bought a pair of MyVu Shades 301, a head mounted display system. However, I don't see the RCA connectors I was expecting, but there *is* a cable that says it goes to "standard DVD players". It has a green stereo 1/8" plug, which I assume is audio, and then a yellow two-conductor plug. I'm guessing this last one is composite video, but I'm just not sure. Have any of you seen this? I figure if I can't find an adapter at Radio Shack I can probably whip one up in a few minutes, but I wanted to get your opinions before I go messing around. John Floren -- "I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I'm going back to C, Hunter S. Thompson, and cheap whiskey." -- Ted Dziuba

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Wanted: PC11 interface

by chd_1＠nktelco.net

My PDP11/40 had a high speed paper tape reader/punch when it was new (PC04 I think). I have the hardware, but not the Unibus card. I think it failed and was replace with a Facit punch with a serial interface. So, does anybody have a M7810 they want to get rid of? That is the PC11 interface. I don't know if that is a quad SPC board or a dual that needs a M105 address board and an M7821 interrupt board. I think it needs the extra boards. Any lead or information is welcome... -chuck

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How can one test a DEC M9313 "Unibus Exerciser and Terminator" (UET)?

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

Hi, all, Also in the same box with the DELQA was an M9313 UET module. It reminds me that I have a loooongstanding problem with my VAX8300... the Unibus interface (DWBUA) has been a problem since I moved the 8300 to my house 15 years ago. The machine works perfectly sans Unibus. It worked in its former location with Unibus. When I first got it home, I fried the DWBUA module - literally. There was a cracked IC and a burned trace. Some sort of cabling problem. I have replaced the cables, replaced the module (so except for the paddle card, pretty much a new system), and the last time I fired it up, I didn't get smoke, but it didn't come up as a Unibus. I have all the standard install docs and such. The normal arrangement is to have either some sort of DD-11 Unibus backplane in your BA32 CPU chassis *or* have long cables off the back of the VAXBI backplane to an external BA-11 with a standard DD-11DK or DD-11CK. I have the external BA11, the same one that was used with the 8300 in its former home. The "Unibus in" spot is filled with a paddle card that accepts the 4 cables from the user-defined area under the DWBUA module. The Unibus terminator *must* be a UET. The firmware on the DWBUA looks for it. I can tell from inspecting the BIIC registers on the DWBUA that my module is unhappy somehow with the UET. I have, now, 4 UETs. I think the last time I tested things, one or two gave me different BIIC-register results than the rest, suggesting that there are actual hardware problems with one or more of my UETs. The one I found tonight has probably not ever been plugged into a backplane by me, given what else I found in the box (*nothing* in the box has been plugged in since the box came home). What would help me increase my confidence about my testing procedure is how to actually *test* a UET. I have enough different sorts of hardware that I don't think I would have to get anything new to set up any sort of software test. I have close at hand an 11/04 and an 11/750, and can lay hands on various Unibus PDP-11s and an 11/750 without leaving town. The piece of the puzzle that I'm missing (and always have) is how to test it. AFAIK, it's a terminator and several loopback registers, but the specific nature of them is unknown to me. I presume that the termination is likely to be robust and probably not faulty - it's probably a problem with a bus driver/receiver or perhaps with some sort of internal register that the DWBUA firmware is writing to or reading back. There are a number of DEC-specific ICs, a lot of 74LS parts, some Nat'l Semi and AMD parts, and a few DIP resistor packs. There's one empty 24-pin 0.6" socket (which is empty on all the UETs I've seen, so it's either some sort of option or a test plug for some other use), and no jumpers what so ever. There are nine 8641 Unibus interface chips, but fortunately, I have a stack of those from COMBOARD spares. There are five DC013s, but I have those from COMBOARDs, too (two per board, socketed, thankfully). Before anyone suggests grant jumpers, I used to make dual-height grant modules. I always populate every slot with one so I don't have to worry about NPR (and because they are easier to remove than genuine G727 knucklebusters). I could probably figure out whatever I needed to from the UET maintenance printset (which I don't have handy, unfortunately), but I'm hoping that someone on the list has some experience that goes beyond just plugging one in and seeing no errors from the system. Perhaps someone has read a Field Service bulletin that talks about this module and perhaps they remember some useful fragment of the title or has a copy of it handy. I don't *think* either the primary or secondary Unibus adapters for the 11/750 care if there's a UET or even if they can directly tell there's a UET, and that's the system I have the most experience with. There may be some simple sort of ODT sequence that I could tickle the Unibus with and see clearly that "bit 4 is stuck" or something like that. If not, reading diagnostic source could be revealing about how it interacts with the UET registers. Thanks for any helpful tips and pointers. I miss having the Unibus on the 8300 - I can run and test COMBOARDs on it, which is one of the reasons I want to get it working - so I can go through the pile of stuff in the basement and scrap out the boards that didn't work then and aren't likely to work now. I have a few VAXBI COMBOARDs still, so one "fun" thing one can do is hook any two boards back-to-back through a (synchronous) modem eliminator (one board is told to be the "central", the other is the "remote") and move files around and exercise the software by pumping bytes from one process to another - you don't "need" a second machine to demonstrate HASP or 3780 (though it can be easier to explain when data are actually *moving* from one CPU to another). -ethan

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Looking for Radius Rocket software <ahem> key...

by derschjo＠mail.msu.edu

I picked up a Radius "Stage II" Rocket, which appears to be a rather nifty "accelerator" of sorts which is more or less a second 68040 mac on a nubus card. I've found the necessary software to drive it, RocketShare 1.3.1, but it wants a serial number from me before it'll start up... I don't have the original software disks, but I'd like to think owning the physical card would grant me rights to it, since they were only sold together. Anyone out there have a serial for this they can share? (Why would software that requires possession of a $3500 card in order to do anything require a serial number? Gah...) Thanks, Josh

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vintage ads

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/What-the-Ad.aspx> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

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Looking for manual/schematics for Microangelo MA520 S-100 card

by ragooman＠comcast.net

Anyone have a manual/schematics for Microangelo MA520 S-100 card ? All the sites that I bookmarked come up empty. I'm trying to fix the one I have here. It's also missing a chip at U5 I don't have a photo of the card either to determine the part#, just the early revision model. thanks ! =Dan -- [ = http://www2.applegate.org/~ragooman/ ]

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tractor feed supplies

by brianlanning＠gmail.com

While picking over the remains of a local office depot that was going out of business, I managed to get a 500 sheet box of tractor feed printer paper for $3 (last one). I'm surprised they stocked it. Although they had box upon box of 2, 3, and 4 part tractor feed paper, so I guess that's the target audience. All I need now are tractor feed labels for 3.5" floppy disks. Does anyone know of a good source? brian

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Keyboard Kache in Kalifornia

by marvin＠west.net

> From: s shumaker <shumaker at att.net> > What's the location for this stuff? Oxnard is about 45 minutes south of where I live. If someone REALLY wants this stuff, I could stop by to pick up the stuff and drop it off somewhere to be packed and shipped (I just don't have the time to pack and ship that much "stuff".)

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Looking for PLM86 compiiler

by jefferwin＠gmail.com

I have added an 8088 to my Imsai 8080 (using the CompuPro/Godbout 8085/88 dual processor card). I have been all over the internet and have not been able to find a copy of PL/M86 and associated linker and locator. I know they must be out there, but none of the CPM86 sites have the tools. As an alternative, I could use a C86 compiler, but the C language overhead is huge. The AZTEC C86 compiler creates about 5K of 'stuff' for a main() with no #includes that simply returns. I suspect there is a ton of DOS support stuff that gets dragged in. PLM86 is designed more for creating PROM code, which is what I really need. Can anyone out there point me in the right direction? PLM86 or a C compiler that understands the concept of PROMable code? Jeff Erwin

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I [don't] hate E-Bay (was Cromemco 68000 on ebay)

by trag＠io.com

> > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:05:08 +0100 (BST) > From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) > I don;t understnad this. How come if I put in my high bid several days > before the end of the auction does it make others bid higher? Because many of the buyers on Ebay are not rational--or at least, not what you and I would consider rational. Rather than deciding ahead of time on their maximum bid, they check the item over an over again during the auction and if they've been outbid, they enter a higher bid--usually $2 at a time, until theirs is the highest bid. If you come along and outbid them, they will do this again. If there are two of them, they'll do it to each other in a rather comical fashion (not so comical if you want the item in question). The only way to defeat these jokers is to not bid until the last moment, depriving them of the chance to come nickel and dime you to death. Even if they don't outbid you, several of their little increments will drive your price up. Remember, you don't pay your bid amount, you pay a fixed increment higher than the second highest bid amount. Of course, from a seller's point of view, these folks are (maybe) useful. Jeff Walther

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Looking for manual/schematics for Microangelo MA520 S-100 card

by ragooman＠comcast.net

Anyone have a manual/schematics for Microangelo MA520 S-100 card ? All the sites that I bookmarked come up empty. I'm trying to fix the one I have here. It's also missing a chip at U5 I don't have a photo of the card either to determine the part#, just the early revision model. thanks ! =Dan -- [ = http://www2.applegate.org/~ragooman/ ]

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C=64 looking for a home (Montreal)

by mouse＠Rodents-Montreal.ORG

A friend-of-a-friend who's leaving not just the city, not just the country, but the continent, dropped a C=64 system on me. But I am not really into the 8-bitters; to me it would be just an amusing toy, and I daresay there are plenty of people here to whom it would be a lot more than that. It seems moderately complete, to me, and in fairly good shape for a system that old. (Going by the pictures Dave Dunfield has up on www.classiccmp.org, this is definitely the original C=64, not a C64C.) There's the keyboard/CPU unit, one 1541 disk drive (ie, 5?" floppy), a Commodore-branded monitor, two joysticks, power brick, at least a few disks of software, a bag of cables - I can go through and do a complete inventory if it matters. I haven't tried plugging it all together and testing it, though I certainly can if it might make the difference to anyone. Cosmetic condition is pretty good for a computer its age - not NIB-level pristine, of course, but it's obviously spent a lot of time either being well cared for or sitting protected on a shelf. :-) Yours for picking up in downtown Montreal. I can probably bring it to Ottawa if that would help; most months see me do at least three round trips. I could probably be persuaded to ship if necessary, but I'd naturally enough prefer to avoid that. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

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Keyboard Kache in Kalifornia

by trixter＠oldskool.org

Saw this on another forum. I don't know what the prices actually are, but if you're in California maybe you can get to this person: --begin-- title: IBM Clicky Keyboards 30+ and MORE XT AT Style KBs & Apple ADB The title says it. We are shutting our business and have to be out of the warehouse by April 13. We have at 30 plus vintage IBM clicky keyboards and many many more AT XT style keyboards, all with the big round DIN connector. I'm asking $200 for all of IBM clickies and as many more as you can take out for $50 more. We literally have hundreds of keyboards. Mostly vintage, but some are newer PS/2 keyboards if you need them. $250 and you can haul every keyboard we have --- well leave me half a dozen newer "old" PS/2 and a couple Clickies I have at my work bench. THE CATCH. We will not ship. You must come pick them up at our warehouse in Oxnard Calif, on the coast about an hour north of Los Angeles. APPLE? Did you say Apple ADB keyboards.?. We have those too. They all go for that same $250. Call Bob 805 486-0087 before we shut off the phone How serious is this? We just got rid of over 6000 -- 3 tons of computer monitors. We have to be out by the 13th of April. ---end--- -- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ Help our electronic games project: http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ A child borne of the home computer wars: http://trixter.wordpress.com/

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Hacked up power supplies

by mbbrutman-cctalk＠brutman.com

A while back there was a funny thread about a person who was making C64 power supplies by putting wall warts in an enclosure and selling them as professional grade. I came across my own questionable homemade power suppy recently. The picture is here: http://brutman.com/2009_0329_161949.jpg This is supposed to feed an expanded PCjr that has two power inputs. It looks like somebody broke open two PCjr power bricks and wired them in parallel to one line cord, then glued the bottom of the exposed bricks to keep them from bouncing around in the metal enclosure. To me, this looks really ugly, and I'm suprised that somebody went to this depth. The frames of the transformers were grounded, but the box itself was not grounded. I like the concept, I just don't like the way it was executed. It will never look pretty, but is there a way to make it safe? Is it enough to secure the transformers to the box in a more robust way, and then connect the box to the ground, or should I just be thinking about recycling the components? Mike

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From Jay: news archive status

by frustum＠pacbell.net

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Battle" <frustum at pacbell.net> To: "Jay West" Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:23 PM Subject: archive > Jay, > > There has been a spate of cctalk emails about the archive not being > online "for weeks." Perhaps it is because of the server migration you > are doing, but I thought I'd mention it to you in case it is not > expected. > > Thanks Yep, archives are down temporarily because I'm having trouble with the mailing list move. They have a choice - either the mailing list is down for a while or the archives are. Nice to know they appreciate my work. "For weeks"? Let the loudest complainer have the root password and do it himself.

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I [don't] hate E-Bay (was Cromemco 68000 on ebay)

by marvin＠west.net

From: "Barry Watzman" <Watzman at neo.rr.com> > First, re: "I hate [ebay] because it defrauded me in 2005", that is, in all > probability, BS. E-Bay didn't defraud you, the other party (buyer or > seller) did. E-Bay is not a principal to the transaction; it is merely a > venue for bringing buyers and sellers together. > > Second, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE E-BAY, it is EXTREMELY safe. > There are a surprising number of people with an aversion to E-Bay. That's > their loss, because it's one of the greatest things that the Internet has > brought us, both as buyers and as sellers. First, my comments are being made as a FORMER small seller, and a very rare buyer. oBay is the point of last resort when I need to buy something. They USED to be one of the greatest things the Internet has brought us, and it is their *past* reputation that continues to attract people. After about starting on ebay in 1997, I quit using them for several reasons. The main reason is they put in quite a number of what *I* consider to be unreasonable seller demands with absolutely no accountability on their part. Ebay is NOT, I repeat NOT just a venue!!!! To think it is "just" a venue is absurd. And just to make it clear, I'm not attacking you, but rather your comment. I've heard too many stories of fraudulent transactions with the ebay position being that it is not their problem. Just one example would be a friend of mine (president of an amateur radio club at the time) had a mint condition CD donated to their club. It was sold on oBay with PayPal, a SNAD dispute was files, the box was returned and the buyer got their money back. The box contained a junker and not the original radio. Both oBay and PayPal said it was not their problem. I really don't like gambling, and consider the use of that site for selling nothing more than a crap shoot. The changes will continue, and the small seller has no place on the site except as a scavanger. It should also be pointed out that my comments refer to small sellers. The larger sellers will absorb any problems which probably aren't even a blip on their radar screens. BTW, money orders are fine with most sellers, but the (mis)management team prohibits sellers from letting buyers know. But that same (mis)management tracks paper payments, and will sanction sellers that take too many paper payments. Yup, you did hit a hot button with your comments :).

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Looking for an 8 bit HD controller

by silvercreekvalley＠yahoo.com

Does anyone have a spare 8 bit ISA hard-disk controller, something that would work in a IBM XT. The current controller is damaged, and always reports '1701' when the XT boots. I've tried known good hard-drives without success so I'm pretty sure its the controller. Please contact me of list. Thanks Ian.

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I [don't] hate E-Bay (was Cromemco 68000 on ebay)

by Watzman＠neo.rr.com

E-Bay now requires buyers to accept Pay-Pal, and forbids them from advertising that they will take any other form of payment. So I if you look at one of my auctions, it says Pay-Pal and doesn't list any other form of payment. BUT .... that doesn't mean that a buyer won't take another form of payment, indeed, if a customer asks me if I will take a money order .... of course I will, I don't have to pay the Pay-Pal fees if he sends a money order. And almost every other E-Bay seller will do the same. [it's "dicier" if you want to send a personal check, for obvious reasons] I'd like to see someone challenge their policies on this on anti-trust grounds (for those of you who don't know this, E-Bay owns Pay-Pal], but so far it hasn't happened. If you have your own private credit card account with a bank and can take credit cards DIRECTLY, they will allow you to do that (and advertise it) instead of Pay-Pal.

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Looking for internals docs for an IBM 7861-015 modem

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

Hi, All, Going through a pile of stuff in the basement, I uncovered a hamfest find from a couple of years back - a short stack of frontpanels for an IBM leased-line modem. I picked them up because they have a 4x5 keypad with the keys marked 0-F (and a row of blanks). That alone made them worth it, but having looked at them in detail, it might be fun to adapt them as is rather than part them out. Cursory examination reveals o a 16x1 VDF display with "british flag" segments o the aforementioned 4x5 keypad o several DIP parts that may be equivalent to ULN2803s that seem to drive the VFD segments o some sort of TI-branded 40-pin DIP microcontroller o a 34-pin pigtail cable to the modem Since most of the cable pins are clearly grounds and Vcc, there appears to only be about 12-14 non-power signals which disappear into the microcontroller and the (I think) transistor arrays. What I'm hoping to find is any sort of documentation that might reveal to me how the modem MPU drives the front panel. I don't have the modem, so I can't scope the signals. I can produce a reverse-engineered schematic from the real board up to a point, but a mysterious MCU is difficult to scope out. Worst case, these were worth the $1 I paid for them just for the parts. Best case, I can stick some sort of MCU on the 34-pin connector and talk to that from a "real" computer. Second best case, I could dike out the TI MCU and wire something in its place. So... google did not reveal any obvlous locations. Does anyone know of any secret repository of IBM hardware docs? Thanks, -ethan

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anyone know how to run maindec-11 papertapes?

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Does anyone know how to run maindec-11 diagnostic paper tapes? Say I wanted to run maindec-11-dfkaa-b1-pb which is an 11/34 cpu test. I know I could run xxdp, but if I had no disk and I wanted to run the test from paper tape, what's the procedure? Naturally I'd like to try it on simh first... Is there a manual for the maindec diags anywhere on line? thanks, -brad

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looking for a good HP to industry std. part number list.

by g-wright＠att.net

I'm been working on a HP 3000-37 and I can't find a list that gives the ROM size or industry std. numbering for the ROMs. These have the HP # 1818-3449. I would also like to find some tech. manuals for the same, but I'm probably dreaming again Thanks, Jerry Jerry Wright g-wright at att.net

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plm86 compiler

by jefferwin＠gmail.com

I am looking for a plm86 compiler, one that runs under ISIS. I could also use a C compiler for the 8086 that generates Intel hex format. Can onyone point me in the right direction? Jeff Erwin

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CC list archives can be found at marc.info

by dzubint＠vcn.bc.ca

FYI: Current Classiccmp cctalk archives can be found at the marc.info website. http://marc.info/?l=classiccmp&r=1&w=2

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Fwd: [alt.sys.pdp11] Update on PDP11GUI - a graphical development environme

by legalize＠xmission.com

This message has been forwarded from Usenet. To reply to the original author, use the email address from the forwarded message. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:16:30 +0200 Groups: alt.sys.pdp11 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?J=F6rg_Hoppe?= <j_hoppe at t-online.de> Org: T-Online Subject: Update on PDP11GUI - a graphical development environment for PDP -11 Id: <gqoheq$3bt$02$2 at news.t-online.com> ======== Now PDP11GUI version 1.24.1 is ready. New features are: - Access to PDP-11 disks over a downloadable driver. Disk images can be read and written from/to disk file. Currently support for RL01/02, MSCP, RM disks, more to follow. Read more: http://www.j-hoppe.de/PDP-11/PDP11GUI/Disk_images_read_write/disk_images_re… rite.html - "Memory Dumper" window: memory content can be written to disk file (the old version only had a "Memory Loader") - you can bring your own MACRO-11 assembler. - minor changes and enhancements - bug fixes It will always be free for non-commercial use, download at http://www.j-hoppe.de/PDP-11/Resources/setup.exe Mandatory documentation at www.j-hoppe.de/pdp11gui.html As always, feedback is welcome! Mail to j_hoppe on t-online.de Enjoy! Joerg Hoppe

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CC list archives?

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Is the CC list still active? If so, does anyone know what happened to the archives? They are currently 404. I sent an e-mail to Jay, but as usual he did not respond. I'll probably get a response in 6 months. This is not meant as a slam against Jay since I'm much worse :( Anyway, just checking, since my only conduit to CC is through the archives. In fact, I won't know if anyone responds to this inquiry since I have delivery set to off. If anyone knows anything and wouldn't mind shooting me a private message I would appreciate that greatly. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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I [don't] hate E-Bay (was Cromemco 68000 on ebay)

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

the internet could have *brought* us any number of things. One party organized and brought us eBay. For the most part it's a racket. Sure someone low on cash can get more money for an item then they otherwise would have dreamed of (can you say vintage computer?). But there methods of dealing with issues is atrocious, for instance this recent piece of debauchery (see I'm becoming incoherent) where a seller is prevented from reporting truthful feedback about an atrocious bidder. It is, of course, the seller's fault when people refuse to read through a listing, then refuse to pay, THEN get to leave you negative feedback. ?My rating is about 71 I think. But I've participated in HUNDREDS of transactions. The reason my score is so low - I utterly REFUSE to play the one hand washes the other game. I think I left negative feedback once (really really wanted to another time, but couldn't). I guess though that that particular debacle isn't ePay's fault (coercion). ?I'll utilize from time to time, but personally I'd cackle w/laughter if their stock values suddenly plummeted. And this is coming from a rather unapologetic conservative Republican (for the most part). All brokers will have their part in the lake that burneth w/fire and w/brimstone. --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Barry Watzman <Watzman at neo.rr.com> wrote: From: Barry Watzman <Watzman at neo.rr.com> Subject: I [don't] hate E-Bay (was Cromemco 68000 on ebay) To: cctech at classiccmp.org Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 2:36 PM I am a "Power Seller" with over 10 years on E-Bay, probably 5,000 transactions, but I am not a business and most of my activity is buying, not selling. First, re: "I hate [ebay] because it defrauded me in 2005", that is, in all probability, BS.? E-Bay didn't defraud you, the other party (buyer or seller) did.? E-Bay is not a principal to the transaction; it is merely a venue for bringing buyers and sellers together. Second, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE E-BAY, it is EXTREMELY safe.? Most of the sellers (and buyers) are honest, more than 99% I'd say.? If you pay through Pay-Pal with a credit card, you have about 3 levels of protection even if the seller is fraudulent:? E-Bay, Pay-Pal and your credit card company.? You do have to know how to use the various systems to protect yourself; you can look at a seller's history, and about the comments that people who have dealt with that seller previously have left about their transactions.? If you educate yourself about how to use E-Bay, it is quite safe.? Is it perfectly, totally safe?? No, of course not (neither is any other marketplace), and getting issues resolved when they do occur can be a hassle and can take months and require that you be persistent and well organized. There are a surprising number of people with an aversion to E-Bay.? That's their loss, because it's one of the greatest things that the Internet has brought us, both as buyers and as sellers. Barry Watzman

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Tandon TM848E

by spedraja＠ono.com

Hello. I am searching for one or a couple of Tandon TM848E eight inch floppies. I got one SGS system with CP/M and a couple of these, and at least one of them appears to have problems with the motor. Offers off-list if available. Thanks and Greetings Sergio

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Update on PDP11GUI - a graphical development environment for PDP-11

by j_hoppe＠t-online.de

Now PDP11GUI version 1.24.1 is ready. New features are: - Access to PDP-11 disks over a downloadable driver. Disk images can be read and written from/to disk file. Currently support for RL01/02, MSCP, RM disks, more to follow. Read more: http://www.j-hoppe.de/PDP-11/PDP11GUI/Disk_images_read_write/disk_images_re… - "Memory Dumper" window: memory content can be written to disk file (the old version only had a "Memory Loader") - you can bring your own MACRO-11 assembler. - minor changes and enhancements - bug fixes It will always be free for non-commercial use, download at http://www.j-hoppe.de/PDP-11/Resources/setup.exe Mandatory documentation at www.j-hoppe.de/pdp11gui.html As always, feedback is welcome! Mail to j_hoppe on t-online.de Enjoy! Joerg Hoppe

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Tekelec Chameleon software

by rikbos＠xs4all.nl

I have a Tekelec Chameleon but no software. Before I scrap it is there anyone who has the software or some one who want to takes this from me ? -Rik

17 years, 5 months

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Free MCA stuff

by lproven＠gmail.com

By the way, if this is not the place, do let me know. Peter Wendt's MCA site seems to have gone & I don't know any other points for MCA collectors or fans - but if anyone does, do please let me know! -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

17 years, 5 months

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Cromemco 68000 on ebay

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:08:04 -0500 From: Randy Dawson <rdawson16 at hotmail.com> Subject: Cromemco 68000 on ebay >I thought I recall some of you guys looking for one of these, in a few chats last week. >I'd buy it, but I dont have a system (anybody have one they would sell to to a fellow vintage fan?) >Randy >ebay, $40 at present, 250394374739 ---------- By all means, bid it up! I know the seller, and he realized that he'd rather keep it but he'd already had offers so he's going to buy a replacement from me for whatever he sells it for ;-) ---------- >From: David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> >Nifty! It's not like the ones I have previously sold. Those had a 68000 >and an MMU or a socket for one. I don't think they were Cromemco's; they had the DPU (Dual, 68000 and Z80) that's on eBay, the XPU (68010) which is running beside me as we speak, and the XXU (68020, FPU, RTC) which is out on my porch, but when they needed an MMU (for UNIX) it was always on a separate card AFAIK. mike

17 years, 5 months

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cctalk archive is not accessible

by vax9000＠gmail.com

Excuse me if somebody has reported this problem. I did not subscribe to receive emails, and depended solely on the archive. But the archive has not been accessible for weeks. vax9000

17 years, 5 months

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Classiccmp web-accessible mailing list archive down?

by dzubint＠vcn.bc.ca

I actually prefer to read the classiccmp discussions via the web archive http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/ But it hasn't been accessible for the past week. Does anyone know what's going on? Thomas PDP-11 Dzubin Calgary, Saskatoon, or Vancouver CANADA

17 years, 5 months

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language misuse (Was: laser scope

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:56:36 +0000 (GMT) From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: language misuse (Was: laser scope >Ypu have to have new words for new ideas/concepts/devices, etc. That is >not the problem. The prolem comes when there's a perfectly good word with >a precise meaning and j-random-luser insists on misusing it to mean >something differnt (for which there is also a perfectly good word already) >-tony ------------ Well, you've certainly introduced a lot of new words for which there were boring perfectly good ones already... Ypu, prolem, U-shapped, rounf, corem, rocke? I particularly liked 'solder-blo' and 'sings of sparks;' they all take my mind off on amusing little side-trips... Would you like me to send you a better keyboard? A big ;-) mike

17 years, 5 months

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Need VMS media for Itanium

by ssj152＠centurytel.net

I've just purchased a small Itanium server, a HP RX2600. I see that it will run Windows Server, Linux, and best of all - OpenVMS. Since there isn't a hobby distribution for 8.3-x (both OS and Layered Products), will someone with the current media who is willing to share please contact me off-list? I will gladly provide media and pay postage, etc. I am a LONG time member of DECUS, and later Encompass and a member on the hobbyist site. I joined DECUS in 1981 when I was working with PDP-11's. I've been working with VAXen since 1983, and more recently Alpha's. This Itanium will be a new and welcome (I hope) experience for me. I miss VAX assembler, it was like programming in a high-level language compared to anything else I've worked with. Thanks in advance, Stuart J., on list as ssj152

17 years, 5 months

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Looking for early versions of MicroVMS & VWS

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- > bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Robert Jarratt > Sent: 27 March 2009 23:38 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: Looking for early versions of MicroVMS & VWS > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- > > bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of H?lscher > > Sent: 24 March 2009 17:43 > > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > > Subject: Looking for early versions of MicroVMS & VWS > > > > WANTED - Early Versions of: > > > > - MicroVMS V1.0 (later renamed to V4.0) V4.1, V4.1M, V4.2 > > - VWS (VAX/VMS Workstation Software) V1.1, V2.0, V3.0 > > > > Help please, I want to run my MicroVAX I/IIs on contemporary > software! > > > > Any media (TK50 tape cartridge, RX50 floppies, 9-track tape, ...) , > any > > condition (Installation media, BACKUP Save Sets, Disk/Tape Images, > ...) > > > > Regards, > > > > Ulli > > > > P.S. > > I can help out with other old VAX software > > I too would like to find media for an older version of VMS, as I > recently > acquired a MicroVAX II. It has an RD53, but I think it does not work as > it > whines and the machine won't boot from it, even though I believe it is > supposed to have a version of Ultrix on it. I am in the process of > trying to > setup a cluster and see if I can boot the machine from a DEQNA I bought > recently as well, but that will be VMS 7.3 and I would like to have an > older > version for old-times sake and also so that I can fit it onto the disk, > if > it works, or onto another RD53 or RD54 if I can get hold of one. > > Regards > > Rob I am now succeeding in getting MOP on my boot server to serve NISCS_LOAD.EXE to my MicroVAX II but I then get ?4F SCBINT "Unexpected SCB exception or machine check". This might be because I am loading NISCS_LOAD.EXE from VMS 7.3 and my MicroVAX II only has a DEQNA which I believe 7.3 does not support. I believe I may need a version of VMS prior 5.0, so if anyone does have media for older versions that they can make available that would be great (don't need necessarily need physical media). Thanks Rob

17 years, 5 months

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Tehc Tip: Lubricating Dot Matrix printers...

by jrr＠flippers.com

I had a problem with an old Dot Matrix printer that was part of a Computer Portrait machine Ihad sold to a film company - it would only print in one direction then complain that the unit could only print to the left. Turns out the head slider and rollers were almost seized from dried out lubrication - so pay attention to motors and other moving parts in older computer systems - they all need periodic lubrication and inspection for free movement. John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"

17 years, 5 months

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Wanted: VAX Ultrix 3.0C

by hoelscher-kirchbrak＠freenet.de

Hi, I haven't got ULTRIX/VAX V3.0C, but: V2.0 V3.1 (disk image only) V4.2 V4.4 V4.5 I'd like to have the missing versions, too. More ULTRIX-Manuals would be VERY interesting as well. (I scanned the ones at bitsavers.com) What type of VAX do you want to run ULTRIX on? Regards, Ulli

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Looking for early versions of MicroVMS & VWS

by dgahling＠hotmail.com

I think I have some of these, but not 100% sure. I've gotta stop archiving stuff just weeks before people ask for it :P Dan. > From: robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:38:00 +0000 > Subject: RE: Looking for early versions of MicroVMS & VWS > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- > > bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of H?lscher > > Sent: 24 March 2009 17:43 > > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > > Subject: Looking for early versions of MicroVMS & VWS > > > > WANTED - Early Versions of: > > > > - MicroVMS V1.0 (later renamed to V4.0) V4.1, V4.1M, V4.2 > > - VWS (VAX/VMS Workstation Software) V1.1, V2.0, V3.0 > > > > Help please, I want to run my MicroVAX I/IIs on contemporary software! > > > > Any media (TK50 tape cartridge, RX50 floppies, 9-track tape, ...) , any > > condition (Installation media, BACKUP Save Sets, Disk/Tape Images, ...) > > > > Regards, > > > > Ulli > > > > P.S. > > I can help out with other old VAX software > > I too would like to find media for an older version of VMS, as I recently > acquired a MicroVAX II. It has an RD53, but I think it does not work as it > whines and the machine won't boot from it, even though I believe it is > supposed to have a version of Ultrix on it. I am in the process of trying to > setup a cluster and see if I can boot the machine from a DEQNA I bought > recently as well, but that will be VMS 7.3 and I would like to have an older > version for old-times sake and also so that I can fit it onto the disk, if > it works, or onto another RD53 or RD54 if I can get hold of one. > > Regards > > Rob > > _________________________________________________________________ Reunite with the people closest to you, chat face to face with Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9650736

17 years, 5 months

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DECMATE I on EBay

by technobug＠comcast.net

A complete system (in pieces) is on EBay @ 250390580244. Very reasonable at this moment... CRC

17 years, 5 months

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Streaming TK50

by bqt＠softjar.se

Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Paul Koning <Paul_Koning at dell.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Ethan" == Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> writes: >> Ethan> ...and I don't know if a uVAX-I can keep a TK50 >> Ethan> busy, ... >> >> I should hope so, given that a modest PDP-11 could do so easily. > > I wouldn't be so certain - my experience is that the the way the TK50 > works, you can store *up to* 95MB per tape *if* you can keep the silos > full. A MicroVAX-I is a slooooow beasty. There's no problem with the > Qbus itself, but my concern would be that system overhead, interrupt > latency, RQDX performance, etc., could be bad enough that the OS just > couldn't fill tape buffers fast enough. Of course, trying to back up > 30 MB onto a 95MB tape doesn't require perfect performance. No. You're mixing two different things. The speed of the drive is very much dependant on keeping the silos full. Otherwise it will go into start-stop mode, in which the speed gets horrenously slow. And I wouldn't be surprused finding out that a uVAX I can't keep a TK50 streaming. It's a slow beast. A "modern" PDP-11 is much better. However, streaming or not should not affect capacity as such. Block sizes on the other hand do. Doing small blocks drastically reduces capacity, since you have inter-block gaps on the tape. > Thinking about it, perhaps it's worth the effort to use Standalone > Backup - that should minimize any OS effects on backup speeds. Once > the tape is written, ISTR the TK50 will back the tape up as necessary > to extract what's on it. It's writing that you _must_ optimize. Well, from a performance point of view, both reads and writes should be optimized. Capactiry-wise shouldn't matter. Tape will start-stop and rewind as needed for both reads and writes. I'm looking through TK50 manuals, but can't find anything about inter-block gaps. The TU81 (for example) can have two different sizes of IBGs, which will affect capacity, and which can be related to tape speed. As I said, I can't find anything like this for the TK50, but if there is, it might cause what you are thinking of (except that the IBG is small by default when in start-stop mode on the TU81, and you have to explicity ask for a larger IBG). Other comments about TK50s? Well, they need a lot of cleaning, and you have to disassemble them when the pick-up skips the arm, which is pretty common. But anyone who have been playing with these drives probably knows this already. :-) Otherwise they keep working pretty reliably. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

17 years, 5 months

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Gone but not forgotten- 10 operating systems most people have left behind

by listmail＠athenet.net

Article by some young puppy who doesn't know about any unices, RT-11, RSTS, VMS, or RSX-11. No O/S for big IBM iron either. Almost every thing he mentions is at least a generation newer than what most of us "We have said goodbye to some of them with regret. (So long, AmigaOS!) Some of them we tossed carelessly aside. (Adios, Windows Me!) Some, we threw out with great force. (Don't let the door hit you on the way out, MS-DOS 4.0!)" http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&art… ----- 624. [Alcohol] Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital ingredient in beer. --Dave Barry --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters at nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB: http://www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, CCNA, Registered Linux User 385531

17 years, 5 months

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PDP-11 bootup

by tpeters＠mixcom.com

At 10:23 PM 3/25/2009 -0400, you wrote: >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I just brought home my spiffy new MicroPDP-11, hooked it up to my >laptop (couldn't find cables to go to any real terminals) and tried >booting. Right now, all I see at power-on is: >173000 >@ > >I can type things after the @, but it seems that pretty much any >keypress results in a '?' and a new prompt. > >I'm a total PDP-11 newb, but the users manual implied that I should be >seeing some sort of post-ish procedure similar to what you get on a >VAX. Any ideas? Type G If that doesn't work, try 173000G ----- 5. [Computing] "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from. --Grace Murray Hopper, as quoted in the Unix Haters Handbook, p.10 --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters at nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB: http://www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, CCNA, Registered Linux User 385531

17 years, 5 months

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Hazeltine 1500 screen garbage; ideas?

by slawmaster＠gmail.com

Thanks to the generosity of Kenneth Marshall and his colleagues at the Laboratory for Laser Energetics, I now have a MicroPDP-11, RX-01, a whole box of miscellaneous flip chips, tons of documentation, and a Hazeltine 1500 terminal. Preliminary to setting up all the rest, I thought I'd try getting the Hazeltine working. I plugged it in and powered up, but the screen seems to be displaying random characters constantly while flickering... it's like somebody is sending a binary file over the serial line, except the serial line isn't connected to anything. Can someone with more terminal knowledge than me try to shed some light? I'm going to check very carefully to make sure no keys are sticking now... I don't think that's the problem but it sure would be nice if it was :) John -- "I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I'm going back to C, Hunter S. Thompson, and cheap whiskey." -- Ted Dziuba

17 years, 5 months

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Zilog System 8000

by lehmann＠ans-netz.de

Hi, I was able to acquire 4 Zilog S8000 boards lately. - S8000 Central Processing Unit - S8000 Winchester Disk Controller - S8000 Cartridge Tape Controller - S8000 ECC Controller I'm trying to get my hands on the Case and the 1MB memory card, but I was wondering if someone has still pieces of the S8000 at hand? What about tape images of ZEUS? I mean - when I'm getting the minimum required hardware sooner or later - without an installation tape I'm a bit lost - right? ;) I've tried to put all the information I was able to found about the S8000 together at http://pofo.de/S8000/ I've scanned the boards I got and put all the EPROM images online. COPYRIGHT, ZILOG, INC. 1980 S8000 Monitor 1.2 - Press START to Load System ;) -- Oliver Lehmann http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.ans-netz.de/

17 years, 5 months

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Anyone interested in VESA or PCI 486 PCs?

by lproven＠gmail.com

I am having a clear-out & I've discovered a cache of 486s in my garage. 4 or 5 machines, some VL-bus, some PCI. 486DX2-66 or better. All come with hard disks, RAM, network cards, CD-ROM drive if desired. I can provide keyboards too if desired. Free for collection from London, England. -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat, Yahoo & Skype: liamproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

17 years, 5 months

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MGE EPS 2000 UPS available

by trovere＠thevalleyscw.tv

Do you still have this ups? Thanks Tim

17 years, 5 months

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language misuse (Was: laser scope

by roger.holmes＠microspot.co.uk

> > From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> > > It's certainly nothing new. > > My father was upset at "like" v "as" > One of his friends was upset at "utilize" v "use" > A friend gets very upset with traffic reports at "to upright" v "to > right" > > I'm still tilting at 1,024,000 as a "megabyte". > > I don't mind the creation of new words. For example, "hassle" is > fairly > recent. But, let's try to avoid misuse of the words that we have. Without new words how could we have progress? My pet hate is billion, which England in the 1950 meant 1000000^2 and trillion 1000000^3 and quadrillion 1000000^4 etc. Which all made mathematical sense. In the modern sense, billion has only a very contrived relation to 2 and likewise trillion and 3. When that US journalist first misused the word back in the 1930, his editor should have been stamped on it and pointed out there is a perfectly good word milliard which means 1,000,000,000. As to hacker, isn't an even older meaning, someone who rides a horse in a casual way? There is also the chiefly Somerset (UK) surname 'Hacker' which according to the Oxford book or names means butcher or woodcutter.

17 years, 5 months

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Looking for a eurocard rack

by silvercreekvalley＠yahoo.com

Hi I'm looking for an eurocard rack that takes the 2 row DIN41612 connectors (eg the ones used in the old Acorn racks). Anything considered, even just a backplane. Please contact me off list. Thanks Ian

17 years, 5 months

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PDP-11 bootup

by slawmaster＠gmail.com

I just brought home my spiffy new MicroPDP-11, hooked it up to my laptop (couldn't find cables to go to any real terminals) and tried booting. Right now, all I see at power-on is: 173000 @ I can type things after the @, but it seems that pretty much any keypress results in a '?' and a new prompt. I'm a total PDP-11 newb, but the users manual implied that I should be seeing some sort of post-ish procedure similar to what you get on a VAX. Any ideas? John -- "I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I'm going back to C, Hunter S. Thompson, and cheap whiskey." -- Ted Dziuba

17 years, 5 months

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Looking for early versions of MicroVMS & VWS

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > At 4:15 PM -0400 3/24/09, Paul Koning wrote: >> >> RSTS on an 11/73 driving an TU50 would stream quite well (with >> Backup). ?Is a MicroVAX-I slower than that? ?Or does RSTS do streaming >> I/O better than VMS? ?(I suppose that's possible...) ?Interrupt >> latency shouldn't be much of an issue; the thing is that you have to >> queue up multiple buffers. > > Isn't the PDP-11/73 about twice as fast as a MicroVAX I? ?Remember the > MicroVAX I is only 0.3 VUPS. I never got to play with an 11/73 back in the day (we stopped buying PDP-11 gear around the days of the F-11 chip), but I would not be shocked to learn that the J-11 is twice as fast as a MicroVAX-I. It really is dog slow. It's a good thing the MicroVAX-II was much, much faster or DEC would have been in trouble long before they eventually got into trouble. -ethan

17 years, 5 months

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Compukit UK101 on BBC news

by coredump＠gifford.co.uk

As the second part of the BBC Technology news coverage of the UK Maker Faire, we have a video from Newcastle: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7962647.stm The clip begins with the classic Lunar Lander game implemented as a physical model with Plaster-of-Paris lunar surface. My own Compukit UK101 30th Anniversary comes up next, with the three machines that I took along to the Faire. Someone asked about memory sizes, and we realised that the 8Gb memory card in his camera was one million times the size of the memory in the UK101. And that was a fully expanded 8k machine! -- John Honniball coredump at gifford.co.uk

17 years, 5 months

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keypunch on ebay

by drb＠msu.edu

I (and several others here, by the looks of the address list) received a note from an individual in Illinois about a keypunch machine for sale a while back. A second note arrived today stating it's on ebay. If anyone cares, no affiliation, fold spindle and mutilate, blah blah. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290305495283 De

17 years, 5 months

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HP 9836C on ebay

by innfoclassics＠gmail.com

300301506206 Looks like a nice HP 9836C ..... working. Looks like three extra memory cards in the back. Ends today...no connection with the post or poster. Wish I could bid but shipping is expensive as it is not local. Paxton Astoria Oregon

17 years, 5 months

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cctalk Digest, Vol 67, Issue 45

by tiggerlasv＠aim.com

> I found a few Emulex boards, and 2 of them doen not ring a bell. > One is a CU2310402 and it has 4 50 pin connector headers, > the other one is a SU2110401, and this looks like it is an SMD > interface, but which one? One can usually reason-out the model number, >from the part number stenciled on the board. However, the best place to find the model number is on the Emulex stickers on the larger (40-pin) chips. If I had to guess, I'd say the CU2310402 is probably an CS23 multiplexor, and the SU2110401 is probably an SC21. I could be wrong, though. The (main) sticker numbers will tell you for sure. T

17 years, 5 months

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OFFERED: Free unusual ISA cards

by lproven＠gmail.com

Anyone want? Free postage from London. 1 x DCA 8-bit full-length IRMA (?) adaptor 003796 M0006 B 1 x EIZO display card Huge 16-bit very packed card with a VGA port on the back and a VGA feature connector ribbon cable dangling from it. Covered in RAMs and ROMs, a few big ICs and 5 30-pin SIMM slots, 2 populated. MD-B12 5C08016C1 Main IC: TMS 34010FNL-50 Plus a big Bt RAMDAC 1 x Madge Token Ring 16/4 adaptor Blue+ 16/4 ISA I also have a Colorgraphics dual-VGA controller here somewhere if anyone wants that too. Never seen a dual screen controller on an ISA card before. -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

17 years, 5 months

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OFFERED: Free IBM PS/2 memory expansion daughterboards (?)

by lproven＠gmail.com

These look to me like the RAM expansions for the planar of the Model 80 or possibly Model 60 - the tower-case PS/2s They're about 10cm x 11cm, covered in silver cubical packages like nothing I've seen before. 2 are: 72X7475 A49954 V0011 - 18 devices 1 is: 90X8670 55Q A79395 5991 Also 18 devices 1 is: 4098539 A58606 V0011 This is just 12 devices -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

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OFFERED: Free Microchannel (MCA) cards - half-length cards

by lproven＠gmail.com

The big list continues! Again, all free for postage from London. Save them from the recycling centre & being stripped for copper! *Item - 9 of these:* MFG LOC 1419 93F0368 EC:40484 2117 Main IC: TI 92F6454 CF63363PCM E 80081 9237 External BNC connector - more IRMA cards, maybe? *Item - 2 of these:* More IRMA cards? External BNC connector 74F3460 23-30415 1833 Main IC: Toshiba 16F0291 T9444B JAPAN9125EAI *Item:* Another IRMA card? External BNC MGF LOC 1419 33G5395 C40484 3333 Main IC: TI 92F6454 CF63363PCM N 82676 9251 -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

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OFFERED: Free Microchannel (MCA) cards - full-length cards

by lproven＠gmail.com

These are offered for the cost of postage from London. *Item* - 2 of these: 83X9648 RAW CD FCC CLASS A - SEE MANUAL Sticker: 83X9649 55Q A50187 5831 Single BNC connector Main IC says: Toshiba 6320055 T7414 Japan 8726FAI (IRMA card?) *Item:* DCA 000047 Rev A Sticker: *KE 000N45* Main IC says: dca 02-99908-000 17GO32AT0210 JAPAN 8746EAI Single BNC connector (IRMA card?) *Item* - same card, Rev D *Item:* Quadram Assy # 17-9094-01 REV 2T-R2 MA21020139 P/N 01-9094-00/R2 Main IC: CHIPS P82C570 JAPAN 6037-J 7Z 09 61 A Single BNC connector (IRMA card?) *Item:* ESDI controller (on hand-written note) 90X8643 784298H 6127882B *Item - 6 of these:* IBM 16/4Mb Token Ring adaptor 3/4 length with blue plastic extender for F/L slot IBM FRU 93F0331 *Item:* IBM 16/4Mb Token Ring adaptor IBM FRU 74F9415 1/2 length card *Item - 3 of these:* Madge 16/4Mb Token Ring adaptor Smart 16/4 MC Ringnode (S16) *Item -2 of these:* IBM external floppy controller card (?) External D37 female port; internal IDC 34-pin connector FCC ID ANO9JW6451007 *Item - 2 of these:* Token Ring card, maybe? Very heavy, densely-packed card External D9 female port Covered in big ICs - Motorola 6413006, OKI M75528, some RAMs, some ROMs #1 says: 83X7488 A 7 411 UH #2 says: 83X7488 A 7 401 TI *Item:* Some form of disk controller IBM FRU 85F0002 External mini-Amphenol type connector, approx 60 way Internal 50-contact edge connector with central slot 3 ROMs, 20MHz & 25MHz oscillators *Item:* IBM dual RS232 serial port card 2 x 16550 ICs IBM FRU #34F0008 *Item:* Some kind of graphics card Loads of RAMs, 1 ROM Connectors for daughterboard Main IC: IBM 1888666 IBM 5352 7S 1903405961 External VGA type D17 connector and small high-density 36-pin male port 32-bit (I think) MCA connector -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

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Quest Super-ELF on eBay

by mc＠media.mit.edu

It's worth visiting the eBay page just for the huge photo. I see a lot of 4000 series chips, which begs the question. What voltage(s) did the ELF run at? I assume not 5V. --Tim

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Looking for early versions of MicroVMS & VWS

by hoelscher-kirchbrak＠freenet.de

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Zane H. Healy wrote: > This actually brings up an interesting question with regards to the VMS > Hobbyist License. The Hobbyist License allows for the use of at least the > OS (I am not sure about VWS). However, the license keys from the Hobbyist > License won't be valid prior to VAX/VMS V5 will they? I believe V4.x and > prior use a different licensing scheme and the licenses were on TK50's or > other distribution media. For VMS V4.x and earlier there were some "License Key Kits". Those kits patched back in functionality that was patched out before to prevent using it without paying license fees. I know of the following kits: - several kits to enable more concurrent users (up to the "unlimited user" kit) - DECnet endnode kit and DECnet full function (including routing) kit - Volume Shadowing kit - LAVC kit (Clustering kit for MicroVAXen/VAXstations) - maybe there was a kit for CI-clusters, too Layered Software was not locked by any special license keys back then at all. You've got to have the Hobbyist-License for legal reasons to run VMS V4.x and earlier, but not for technical ones! And some (but not all) of the kits are known to be available. > Somewhere up in storage I have a dead RD53 with VMS 4.x on it, it died > before I could make a backup. :-( One of these years I want to try to > revive the drive and get a backup of it. Good luck - not an easy job! > I'd love to get VAX/VMS V4.x running on a MicroVAX II, but realistically > V5.5-2 is far more practical and useable. IMHO it is not unrealistic to run VMS V4 on your MicroVAX I, MicroVAX II or VAXstation 2000, and boy, let me tell you: It's a lot of fun doing so! Yes, VMS V5.5-2 is maybe the last "classic" VMS version and I like to run it on my newer VAX models, too. But VMS V4 has got it's very special own charme! And if you've got more than a single disk drive you can always run several versions up to your choice. I must admit that I even run ULTRIX-32 V2.0 on my MicroVAX II sometimes. Ulli

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