- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by david＠classiccomputing.com

Well, one of my old computers is the star in an upcoming short film called "Base Code." It's a 1980 Radio Shack TRS-80 Model III. I made a little documentary. You may not want to watch all 20 minutes, but definitely watch the last 2 minutes. Look for me in some places too! http://gallery.me.com/dgreelish/100077 Best, David Greelish, Computer Historian President, Atlanta Historical Computing Society Classic Computing The Home of Computer History Nostalgia http://www.classiccomputing.com Best, David Greelish, Computer Historian President, Atlanta Historical Computing Society Classic Computing The Home of Computer History Nostalgia http://www.classiccomputing.com

15 years, 1 month

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Oscilloscope Recommendation

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

I find myself in need of an oscilloscope to help me fix my PDP11 PSU (I am being ably assisted by a member of the list, so don't worry). As this is for occasional use only I can't justify spending a lot of money. From previous postings on the list I think I need a minimum spec of dual trace and 20MHz bandwidth. Does anyone have any recommendations for what to buy? I suspect it would be better to get a higher quality used one than a cheaper new one. Perhaps someone in the UK on this list has one they want to sell? Regards Rob

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Q-bus chassis

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

The RetroComputing Society of Rhode Island is doing some housecleaning, as we need to make room for a new machine (a Cray J). I will probably offer up some goodies here and on Ebay over the next few weeks. I might even throw some of the Joe Heck stuff in as well. We have a couple of MDB Qbus chassis - no cards. Pretty basic 3rd party DEC stuff. These are rack mount, and are roughly equivalent to a PDP-11/23. We would like to get anything over shipping for these. Additionally, I could probably deliver to any of the NY area hamfests, or even at our open houses in Providence, RI (generally 3rd Saturday of the month). We will also have a massive triage of u-fixum VT100s soon. Those will likely be pickup only. All proceeds over shipping will go to RCS. -- Will, in 10512

15 years, 1 month

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Tektronix 4911 paper tape punch/reader, 4912 cassette drive

by legalize＠xmission.com

Has anyone ever seen either of these? They're introduced in the Tektronix catalog for 1973, pg. 277. I cannot find pictures of either of these peripherals in any catalog. The cassette drive appeared in only the 1973 catalog and the tape punch/reader appeared for only three years. Prices: 4911 4912 1973 $2950 $1950 1974 $2950 1975 $3295 I've collated together all the graphics/terminal products from the various Tektronix catalogs together into a single PDF file: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/vintage/docs/tektronix/Tektronix_Terminal…> This includes the storage scope displays and related equipment, but omits all the oscilloscope, test equipment and microprocessor development system stuff. It does include the workstations, however. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

15 years, 1 month

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Seeking surplus IBM bus / tag cables and terminators?

by nigel.d.williams＠gmail.com

A friend has a well preserved IBM 3430 tape drive (off an IBM System/38) and we speculated whether we could connect this to one of our AS/400s, which we understand is possible via a suitable SPD card. Before we try to usually difficult process of negotiating down the high prices offered by various eBay sellers, does anyone have any surplus bus/tag cables and terminators (for both) which they can offer please? Here are pictures of the IBM 3430 and most of the cables etc: https://picasaweb.google.com/118247290269860741639/IBM3430TapeDrive Willing to pay shipping to Australia.

15 years, 1 month

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Anybody running INN?

by vintagecoder＠aol.com

Hey is anybody running INN, especially under Solaris 10? I am using leafnode under Linux and I'm mostly happy with it but I'm thinking about moving this service off my desktop and running it on a server, probably under Solaris 10. I figured while I am at it maybe I should consider INN because of the option of using a different spool format that is supposed to increase performance significantly. Recovering or moving my news spool which is not that big at around 4G takes forever (not that I do it a lot, but I have done it and it's a pain) and now the startup each time a client connects takes a while. I think I'm outgrowing leafnode. I'm curious how much work it takes to administer INN for a small network to know if it's worth it or just overkill. Specifically, I want to be able to only host groups I want (about 500) including local-only groups rather than doing a complete usenet grab, and I would like to be able to support SSL connections directly. I use stunnel now on Linux but I've had some problems with it on Solaris 10, so if INN supports it directly that would be a plus. If anybody has any comments or suggestions I would appreciate it. Thanks. -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Vintage Coder America Online ivagntrpbqre at nby.pbz <ROT13> | | | | Collecting: DOS assemblers, compilers, & books (Z80, M68K, 6502, 808X) | | Software & doc for IBM S/360 through OS/390 | | | | Can't find: Ada 95 compilers for MVS/ESA & Solaris (Sparc) | | PL/I X Optimizing Compiler for MVS, APL/SV for MVS | |---------------------------------------+--------------------------------| | Powered by Slackware 64 & Solaris 10 | Powered by Hercules | |=======================================+================================| | PGP Key 4096R 0x1CB84BEFC73ACB32 Encrypted email preferred | | PGP Fingerprint 5C1C 3AEB A7B2 E6F7 34A0 2870 1CB8 4BEF C73A CB32 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

15 years, 1 month

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OT (respond offlist): recommendations for static IP DSL

by spectre＠floodgap.com

For those of you like me who run a decently sized home server network, I am unhappily having to leave DSL Extreme (who have treated me pretty well) because the new house, despite having AT&T, is apparently not in their service area. I'm trying to find a new DSL ISP that serves Southern California that offers at least 5 static IPs at a decent rate (6/608, etc) and does not block ports as I run a mail server off it. Nationwide ISPs are fine if they are good, better still if I can prequal and compare rates online. So far rejected Speakeasy after the Covad/Megapath debacle. Now looking at Linkline, Pacific Internet and Keyway. Please reply offlist since this is super off-topic. :) -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- To err is human -- to forgive is not company policy. -----------------------

15 years, 1 month

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Free items in Seattle area

by g-wright＠att.net

The flowing is free for pick up or what ever it takes for shipping - Jerry >>>>>>>>>>>. IBM Items Manuals 8 1/2 x 11 docs IBM 5253 Display station Parts catalog 40 pages 1982 " " " " I/PAR code guide and C/E Log 8 pages 1983 " " " " Maintenance Info. and Analysis procedures 1983 130 pages IBM System/360 Disk Operating system cobol compiler and library, ver 3, Programmers Guide 1971 265 pages IBM system/360 system/370 fortran IV language 100's of pages 1972 IBM System/360 Fortran IV Library Subprograms 100's of pages 1968 Books System/360 assembly language (don stabley) 1967 Book Programing the IBM 1130 (louden and Ledin) 1967 Book IBM system/36 Procedures and commands IBM 1984 Book IBM AS/400 FC 504x Problem Analysis and repair Software IBM SYStem/36 Q&A Data Base 1984 8" floppy IBM System/36 text management 1985 8" floppy x5 IBM System/36 Utilities 1983 8" floppy x2 IBM System/36 Query/36 1985 8" floppy x3 IBM System/36 RPGII 1983 8" floppy x1 IBM 3880 MIN manuals, 8" floppy and fiche printer manual IBM Printers models D12 and D20 . logic, parts and repair 1986 2 volumes 11 x 17 MISC Items 2 Harris main frame boards. Digital computer controls D-112, MSI, 12 Bit Digital computer installation and maintenance 2 volumes with drawings looks to be copies of originals "OK" copies has ME-6485 written on the cover. Mag tape Micro Data Reality SYS-GEN

15 years, 1 month

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Bad ebay experiance with ebay seller

by hp-fix＠xs4all.nl

I don't, I ordered the items at the end of January ... You can read the story in one of the earlier messages. > You can't blame him for customs. > ________________________________________ > > > Your item was processed through and left our SAN JOSE, CA 95101 facility > on > > April 18, 2011 at 11:27 pm. The item is currently in transit to the > destination. > > Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. > Please > > check again later. > > > > If the items arrive in good order I'll of cause will send him the by > paypal refunded > > money. > > I'll keep you people posted. > > > > -Rik > > At last I recieved my items after they were held in customs .. > And of cause I payed them.. > > -Rik >

15 years, 1 month

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anyone got an ISO of vms 4.2 ?

by dgahling＠hotmail.com

Anyone on the list have an ISO of vms 4.2 I could get a copy of? I have vms v1, v2, v3, and v7+ but seem to have misplaced the images of versions inbetween. It'd be much appreciated. Yes, I have several licenses (purchased with real vax machines) thanks muchly! Dan.

15 years, 1 month

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Who's handling cctalk signups now?

by cclist＠sydex.com

All, I received an email message from Fred Bossu, who used to be a subscriber to this list, but unsubscribed in 2010 and has been unsuccessfully trying to re-subscribe. If someone can handle this, drop me a line and I'll forward his message to you. --Chuck

15 years, 1 month

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Free Sun 4/280 and Other Sun Stuff

by drac7ft＠gmail.com

Free to a good home. I have some vintage Sun4 equipment that I would like to give away to someone who can use it. The equipment is all located near Vancouver Canada. I will not ship it, you will have to pick it up. I will help you load it. Sun 4/280 in cabinet with 9 track 1600/6250 bpi 1/2 inch tape drive, two Hitachi 900 MB SMD disk drives and 16 channel serial port. Sun Sparc 1 pizza box computer, with 425 MB disk drive Two Sun monitors Sun 4/280 chassis with CPU, memory, disk controller and one Hitachi 900 MB disk drive. Assorted Sun VME boards and extra cables and stuff,(disk controller, SCSI interface etc.) All the computers are currently working and running Sun/OS 4.1.3. Contact Dennis at drac7ft *at* gmail *dot* com.

15 years, 1 month

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DEC Rainbow 100 available in Malvern, UK

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Folks, Had an email from someone who has a Rainbow with RD5x, RX50, VR241, keyboard, manuals and software. He'd prefer collection only but there's a chance I can meet him half way at the weekend so I can ship from work but bear in mind this will be a heavy consignment! Let me know and I'll get back to him ASAP. Cheers, -- Adrian/Witchy Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer collection?

15 years, 1 month

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Prototype Sphere I

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://www.wix.com/hivalerie/sphere1#! Gen X website, beware!

15 years, 1 month

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Free: HP 3000 Corporate Business System (12-way) in Cupertino

by sieler＠me.com

Hi, I have an HP 3000 Corporate Business System (3000/996) with 12 CPUs and 1 to 2 GB of RAM, in 6' rack that I'd like to find a home for. It runs! The A/C power plug requires the weird hi-amp 3-prong outlet, not standard household 110. It's in Cupertino, CA, and is housed in a 6' rack (included). (Sadly, it qualifies as a classic, probably from about 1997.) If no home is found fairly quickly, it'll be scrapped, unfortunately. Stan

15 years, 2 months

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SGI servers on gsaauctions.gov

by legalize＠xmission.com

There's some SGI servers out at NASA (Langley, VA) on gsaauctions.gov if anyone feels like bidding on them. Opening bid is like $25-35, so definately a bargain. one lot has 2 Onyx 2 cubes and another lot has an Origin 2000 rack (could have graphics, hard to tell). I'd bid on these, but trans-continental freight shipping is prohibitive these days and the purple cubes are definately sensitive to handling. Hopefully someone out on the least coast will snatch 'em up. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

15 years, 2 months

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TOPS-10 in a box

by waltsfo＠gmail.com

"I do have the source code. I will gather it up and make it available. However, it's not pretty." I'm interested. That certainly ties together several fascinating threads of 'classic' computing.

15 years, 2 months

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LK250 keyboard cable pinout?

by chrise＠pobox.com

Does anyone have the pinout for the cable that goes from a DEC LK250 keyboard to an AT DIN or PS/2 keyboard plug? I've got an LK250 that is missing the cable. There's a 6-pin modular jack (standard not MMJ) on the keyboard and I presume the missing cable has a mating modular plug on one end and a DIN or PS/2 plug on the other. I can make one if I can find the pinout... Chris -- Chris Elmquist

15 years, 2 months

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Q-bus replacement systems pdp-11

by db＠db.net

You lot seen this? http://www.transduction.com/pdf/NuPDPq_brochure_Transduction.pdf -- - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db Why leave money to our children if we don't leave them the Earth?

15 years, 2 months

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Heath E-400 data

by jcdrisc＠tpg.com.au

Hello The enquiry is about the Heath analog computer ES-400 Can you make available copies of any of the documentation ? thanks Julian C Driscoll Manager DSCAPE Melbourne Australia

15 years, 2 months

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off topic TEK 565 RM duel beam scope---- off topic

by useddec＠gmail.com

I was at a local scrapper talking about copper, and saw a a tek 565-RM. had 1/2 the slides, was stored indoors, and I didn't see it last week when dropping off batteries, so it could be fresh from the U of I. He wants $100 for it ( seems high to me) and it weights about 75#s. If anyone wants it, I can get it, and possibly box it. Shipping would be expensive, unless you are close or someone in doing a road trip. I can store it for a few months. . I also have a box up plug in's for these, maybe 10-12. If anyone wants, I can did them out and make up a list. I used to have a few 555's, but I do like the new smaller units Located close to Champaign, IL 61853 Thanks, Paul

15 years, 2 months

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Prototype Sphere I (and this is when I flood the market)

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

> http://www.wix.com/hivalerie/sphere1#! > > Gen X website, beware! Pretty much all Spheres were prototypes - NONE of them worked properly out of the box (or as a bag of parts), and they ALL had to spend time with a thick ECO list. They were crap, plain and simple. Interestingly, just a couple of days ago, I was informed that the last of my Sphere stuff has been found, and after ten plus years of hiding, is getting back in my hands. I should have enough parts to make at least two "complete" Spheres, plus maybe a third, and then have parts left over. We shall see. I will likely use them as trade bait, unless people want to part with their money. -- Will

15 years, 2 months

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IBM 5110 available, somewhere

by sieler＠me.com

Hi, Someone (Floyd) emailed me saying: > I have an IBM 5110 that was traded to me in 1979 for a BASIC programming > job at a local route vending company. It worked last time I used it, > (1984?) and has been stored in a closet wrapped in blankets for years. I > am not sure if it works, as a computer tech friend recommended not > plugging it in until it is checked out. Is this something you would be > interested in? I declined, and offered to post here ... Floyd said ok. His email is floydvincent at verizon.net. I don't know his location, price, or anything other than the above. thanks, Stan

15 years, 2 months

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Hilti

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

> I have some Hilti gear, and some is from China, some is from Poland. And Slovakia. My very old Hilti hammer drill is from Western Germany. -- Will

15 years, 2 months

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Question re: Lisa expansion cards

by snhirsch＠gmail.com

I picked up a two-port parallel card for my Lisa 2/10. Unfortunately, it fails the POST diagnostics with error '92'. The system does correctly identify which slot it's in, FWIW. Does anyone know what the system firmware is poking around for? Is it asserting a checksum test on the card's EPROM? Checking for an interrupt response? The label covering the parallel card EPROM erase window is long gone, so I'm wondering if it was left in the sunlight and partially erased. Does anyone have an image of the EPROM? Steve --

15 years, 2 months

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free for the cost of shipping : Apollo DN 4500 +extra's

by tim＠hunkler.com

Greetings, I have a friend that is looking for a DN4500 or DN5500. Unfortunately he is in the hospital right now. He had a serious case of spiral meningitis and has been unconscious for a week. The doctors are pulling him through!!! I'd like to keep in touch and maybe he will be interested in a month when he is recovered. He has a DN5500 that was fully intact, including a cartridge drive, but the clock battery leaked acid on the motherboard and it will no longer work. But the disk drive, RAM, cartridge tape, etc. all work. So making a binary image of the tapes seems possible. Both of us used to be Applications Engineers for Mentor Graphics :-) see: www.hunkler.com/aegis.htm Thanks, Tim Hunkler

15 years, 2 months

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Nazi System 360/370 book...

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

So my wife wanted to show me a book tonight. Turned out it was one of mine, she'd noticed something interesting. System 360/370 Job Control Language and the Access Methods by Reino Hannula What's up with the Swastika on the spine of the book? It's made up of little triangles, but it's definitely a swastika. Very strange. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

15 years, 2 months

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Determine installed memory - microVAX 3100 Model 20e.

by CCTECH＠beyondthepale.ie

Austin Pass wrote: > >How do I determine the installed memory in a microVAX 3100 Model 20e? > >The unit has no disk in it presently. It starts healthily though and talks >to my VT420, although it doesn't seem to run many diagnostic tests compared >to what I'm used to seeing on my 3100 model 90. It also doesn't report the >amount of installed memory and SHOW CONFIG / SHOW MEM / T 9E produce >"ILL COMMAND". > I haven't come across a model 20e but I would have expected SHOW MEM to work. Try T 50 - hopefully there should be a number giving the memory size in hex just below the line starting with MEM. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

15 years, 2 months

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TOPS-10 in a box...

by CCTECH＠beyondthepale.ie

Dave McGuire wrote: >On 6/21/11 6:25 PM, Peter Coghlan wrote: >> For my final year engineering degree project, I co-wrote a Z80 simulator in >> somewhat pre-FORTRAN-77 to run on an IBM 4381 running MUSIC (under VM). The >> college planned to use this to teach students about microprocessors but I >> don't know if this was ever done. >> >> Not having much use for a Z80 simulator myself, I later rewrote it as a 6502 >> simulator and then converted the core of the simulator from FORTRAN to IBM 370 >> assembly and later still, VAX assembly. It can run the BASIC rom from the BBC >> Micro but not the OS rom. Instead some mainly text based OS functions are >> emulated/simulated directly. Software such as text based adventure games for >> the BBC Micro can be run on the simulator but anything relying on graphics, >> sound or trying to play directly with the hardware doesn't do so well. > > That sounds really, really cool. Do you still have the source code? > I do have the source code. I will gather it up and make it available. However, it's not pretty. (I am trying to change ISPs at the moment so bear with me if it takes a little time to get organised.) Regards, Peter Coghlan.

15 years, 2 months

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Determine installed memory - microVAX 3100 Model 20e.

by austin＠ozpass.co.uk

Hello all, How do I determine the installed memory in a microVAX 3100 Model 20e? The unit has no disk in it presently. It starts healthily though and talks to my VT420, although it doesn't seem to run many diagnostic tests compared to what I'm used to seeing on my 3100 model 90. It also doesn't report the amount of installed memory and SHOW CONFIG / SHOW MEM / T 9E produce "ILL COMMAND". Can anybody help? -Austin. Sent from my iPad

15 years, 2 months

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TOPS-10 in a box...

by CCTECH＠beyondthepale.ie

Richard Cini wrote: >From stackoverflow.net (someone was talking about porting/conversion >projects they were involved in): > >"Ported an 8080 simulator written in FORTRAN 77 from a DECSystem-10 running >TOPS-10 to an IBM 4381 mainframe running VM/CMS." > >Interesting comment. I wonder if that's how Gates/Allen would have done it. > For my final year engineering degree project, I co-wrote a Z80 simulator in somewhat pre-FORTRAN-77 to run on an IBM 4381 running MUSIC (under VM). The college planned to use this to teach students about microprocessors but I don't know if this was ever done. Not having much use for a Z80 simulator myself, I later rewrote it as a 6502 simulator and then converted the core of the simulator from FORTRAN to IBM 370 assembly and later still, VAX assembly. It can run the BASIC rom from the BBC Micro but not the OS rom. Instead some mainly text based OS functions are emulated/simulated directly. Software such as text based adventure games for the BBC Micro can be run on the simulator but anything relying on graphics, sound or trying to play directly with the hardware doesn't do so well. I didn't go on to have any input into MS-DOS or Windows :-) Regards, Peter Coghlan.

15 years, 2 months

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Apple II Concert in Los Angeles, looking for more Apple IIs

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

I figured someone in Cali would take interest in this. http://machineproject.com/archive/events/2011/06/25/apple-ii-concert/ Apple II Concert Saturday, June 25th, 2011 6pm: Meeting of the Apple II owners/musicians 8pm: Concert The old Apple II, first introduced in 1977, was a revolutionary computer in many ways. Sound capabilities were not one of them. The Apple II?s sound system, unlike contemporaries such as the Atari 800 or Commodore 64, did not use a discreet sound chip, but rather a simple timer circuit that could be coaxed into creating square-wave tones. Most chiptune musicians tend to use sound-chip based systems, but there is a certain charm to square-wave tones. Some may define this charm as ?annoyance.? So, as a grand ?musical? experiment, noted loon Jason Torchinsky has written a crude 16-step sequencer for the Apple II, and is seeking to gather up as many Apple IIs as possible to construct an orchestra which will then perform a live, dynamic concert/musical event. Machine?s resident music guru, Chris Kallemyer, will be on hand to discuss the nature of music, why some of the Apple?s 256 tones are notes and some are not, and generally help make things somewhat listenable. Who knows what the end result will sound like? A chorus of angels, poking at touch-tone phones? All the computers from the background of every sci-fi movie from the 1950s-80s going off at once? A serenade by a truckload of R2-D2s? Come on out and listen for yourselves. We are currently seeking Apple II owners to contribute to making this happen! Please contact machine at machineproject.com if you would like to participate!

15 years, 2 months

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Interesting teletype/computer artifact...

by jonas＠otter.se

On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:26:38 -0400, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Dave Caroline > <dave.thearchivist at gmail.com> wrote: >> If you are of a certain age and live in Britain you would know bog >> paper could be VERY strong. > > Dunno if it's the era you are referring to, but I spent the summer of > 1985 in Britain and remember the bog paper as being quite stout. I > can imagine it surviving the rollers and printhead of an ASR-33 (not > sure if it would have buckled enough to snag a dot matrix head or > not). > Izal Medicated :-) Does that stuff still exist? Designed to be as non-absorbent as possible. The difference between using that stuff and a piece of wood was not noticeable. It would probably work quite well as a replacement for roof slates. /Jonas

15 years, 2 months

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: Anyone interested in a DiscFerret intro / tutorial

by robert.stek＠gmail.com

I would be interested, especially from the user point of view. Bob Stek Saver of lost Sols

15 years, 2 months

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TOPS-10 in a box...

by geneb＠deltasoft.com

http://www.filfre.net/2011/05/tops-10-in-a-box/ g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

15 years, 2 months

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mini-cassette LDB 4401

by martin.huch＠gmx.de

found your 6 years old post. Are you still interested in Philips LDB4401 mini cassettes (used)? I've got at least one, and I could check for some more. regards Martin Munich, Germany

15 years, 2 months

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Interesting teletype/computer artifact...

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

> > http://nistdigitalarchives.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT= > /p15421coll3&CISOPTR=402&CISOBOX=1&REC=8 > > I'm fascinated and a little horrified by this. Was there really a teletype > that could print on toilet paper without shredding it? Or is it that the > US Government in the 1950s made its employees use TP that was tough enough > to survive a run through a teletype?!?! Egad! I don;t know about the States, but over here there was a government issue TP that had a glossy finish (!). It was generally nicknamed 'cowboy' (or similar on the grounts it's rough, it's tough anf it don't take no sh*t. I suspect you could feed that through any teletpye... -tony

15 years, 2 months

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What Is It With Mains Filters?

by jonas＠otter.se

>> They are a special type of supposedly "self healing" capacitor able >> to >> withstand spikes without catching fire. >> You would be surprised if you scoped your supply, a lot of spikes > > Be careful if ou try this. One side of the 'scope input is earthed > (and > conencted to the metal case of the 'scope). Not on my 'scope (a Philips PM3540 with a 16 channel logic analyser built in). It is double insulated and the mains plug is a 2-pin Euro-plug. Yes, the inputs are connected to the 'scope chassis and case, but the case is not earthed. /Jonas

15 years, 2 months

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Interesting teletype/computer artifact...

by dave.thearchivist＠gmail.com

If you are of a certain age and live in Britain you would know bog paper could be VERY strong. the following is a clip from the web " Minor British Institutions: Izal toilet paper By Sean O'Grady Saturday, 4 July 2009 It is a discomfiting thing to learn that Izal loo roll is still available. Not as discomfiting as it used to be, in the days when this slightly abrasive product was routinely found in school toilets and public conveniences, the harsh price of spending a penny away from home. Today it is not ? quite ? so harsh. San Izal has been rebranded Izal, and the tissue seems less unforgiving than before. Make no mistake, this is not the sort of roll that the Andrex puppy would like to romp around with, but it is just a little less austere than before. The scent of disinfectant seems also to have disappeared, which is a bit of a shame for those who like their khazi karma nice and traditional. It is difficult to believe that, in a world of ultra-soft pastel-hued lavatorial opulence, such a throwback to the age of austerity will still be bought out of choice (it is not particularly cheap either). Some websites market it as a "novelty product". Nostalgia, surely, has its limits: there's no need to scrape the bottom of the barrel. " It would wrinkle into sharp points and hurt ones delicate behind. I could easily see a printer being able to use it. Dave Caroline

15 years, 2 months

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Interesting teletype/computer artifact...

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

http://nistdigitalarchives.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT= /p15421coll3&CISOPTR=402&CISOBOX=1&REC=8 I'm fascinated and a little horrified by this. Was there really a teletype that could print on toilet paper without shredding it? Or is it that the US Government in the 1950s made its employees use TP that was tough enough to survive a run through a teletype?!?! Egad!

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Bob Pease dies in car accident

by ragooman＠gmail.com

Bob Pease dies in car accident http://tinyurl.com/3btjuar

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Anyone interested in a DiscFerret intro / tutorial presentation?

by classiccmp＠philpem.me.uk

Hi guys, A couple of hours ago, I found a copy of some old presentation slides I put together for the "pre-release" DiscFerret which was part of my MEng project presentation. They cover the basics of magnetic data recording (on floppies only, this is before I added MFM HDD support), and how the hardware works. So how about this: a short series of DiscFerret presentations, done on Ustream or Livestream, explaining what it is, what it does, how it works, and how to make it do useful stuff. This would be both from the point of view of a user (DF-LUA / Arthur toolkit) and a programmer (LibDiscFerret API). I was thinking something along the lines of a half-hour (or so, depending on subject matter) presentation, followed by about 20 minutes for Q&A. Now for the Million Dollar Question: would anyone be interested in something like this? Thanks, -- Phil. classiccmp at philpem.me.uk http://www.philpem.me.uk/

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Useless thread, RE:Religion, Re: Nazi System 360/370

by jonas＠otter.se

>> >> Manifest in the 70's as HP vs TI. >> > >> > Over here, TI calcualtros were not particularly common. The common >> > brand >> > was (and is, I guess) Casio. >> > >> Interesting, do you know if TI didn't make much market effort over >> there, or their calcs just weren't well-received in the market? > > I don't, I'm afraid. > > TI calculators doexist over here, but if you just went ot buy 'a > caluclator' you'd either get some no-nam hose brand 4-banger or a > Casio > most likely. > > I would estimate that Sharp calculators were actually more common > than TI > over here. > >> >> >> > Of course those of us who prefer RPN bought HPs. When I went to university in 1976, everybody got a calculator. There were two models which sold the most: the TI-57 and the HP-25, virtually no other makes were sold at all. They were essentially equivalent, the TI being rather cheaper but faster. The odd HP-67, SR-52 or TI-59 sold as well, although you had to have rich parents, plenty of savings or mortgage parts of your body to the devil to afford one. HPs were considered the BMWs of calculators, the TIs were the Fords :-) I got an HP-25 which I never regretted, the extra money I spent probably gave me a couple of extra years longer life thanks to less stress using it, owing to RPN. /Jonas

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Useless thread, RE:Religion, Re: Nazi System 360/370

by jonas＠otter.se

> [Reasons why I use an RPN calculator snipped] > >> I'm intrigued. I don't understand, but that's OK. > > What don;'t you understand ? RPN, or why I prefer to use it? AFAIK compilers often/usually convert expression to postfix notation (RPN or close) during parsing. Also of course the Burroughs B5000 series and successors (up to B7800 IIRC) were stack machines, using postfix notation internally. At university a calculator was a necessity, I had an HP-25 and I always found that RPN made it a lot easier to keep track of where I was in complex calculations, e.g. when working out the reactance of some series-parallel-whatever network of R, L and C. The equations usually barely fitted on one line of a sheet of notepaper, involved lots of additions, subtractions, divisions and multiplications and conversions between rectangular and polar coordinates, and I did not envy those who used infix calculators. /Jonas

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Google Lisa List

by snhirsch＠gmail.com

Does anyone know who owns this list and how to get in touch with them? I joined last month, made about three totally innocuous postings and found myself banned at the next attempt to sign in. Google, in their infinite wisdom, gives you no means to find out if it's a mistake, appeal to the owner, or even get an explanation for why it's occurred! I sent a message to the posting address with no response. I had been given the name of "lowenddan at gmail.com" as list owner, but cannot get any response from that address either. Is there something I should know about becoming worthy of Lisa List membership? Perhaps a secret handshake I've overlooked? I contacted a couple of members privately, and both were utterly baffled as to what the motivation may have been. I'm still operating on the assumption that this is a software glitch or mistake. If I've been thrown off as a deliberate action, then I think it's common courtesy for the list owner to at least explain why this occurred. Steve --

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Poqet PC

by va7nt＠telus.net

I would appreciate the info you have on the serial adapter for the Poqet. cheers, Paul

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Looking for a MicroVAX II BA123 Front Panel Door

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

I recently acquired a MicroVAX II in a BA123 (World Box) enclosure. It has cleaned up really well. The only niggle is that I am missing the little door that goes over the front panel at the lower left of the enclosure. Does anyone have one of these going spare? Regards Rob

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What Is It With Mains Filters?

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

> All the PSUs that have had components pop on me have all been capacitors in > the mains filter (except the H7140 in my PDP11 but that was only after I had > been messing with it to try to fix it, so that doesn't count). > Not being an expert in electronics I am not sure of the reason for this. Can > someone explain? Is it the type of capacitor? Is that type of capacitor only > used in mains filters? If not, why have I (so far) not seen other PSU > capacitors blow up? Not sure how far you're going back but... Mains filters from the 50's and 60's likely had paper/wax capacitors in them. At least in the US, there doesn't seem to have been a special rating system for these but most cap failures were benign (not purely luck... even though there was no special rating they were generally made to be on the robust end.) "Modern" ones (70's onwards) have specially rated X1, X2, Y2 capacitors. In small filters these are likely to be ceramics and in larger ones (especially snubber networks) they are more likely to be boxed film capacitors. They all have special fire protection and surge voltage ratings. They do not necessarily lead "Easy" lives - if some nearby inductive appliance is putting crap into the power line, it's the small devices on the same circuit or nearby branch that may end up eating it. Tim.

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Anyone interested in a Gandalf 6' Communication Rack in the Portland area

by innfoclassics＠gmail.com

Picked up the intel 330 and 380 today, thanks Vince. However I think I am not going to keep the rack. It is a 6 foot communication rack mount case with a dark glass door and the Gandalf logo on the front top, on wheels. I could deliver it in the Portland Oregon area on Monday as it is in my van at the moment. I want to keep the rails for the 330 and 380 but can leave the power distributor if whomever takes it wants it. Paxton currently in Portland/Eugene but going back to Astoria on Monday. -- Paxton Hoag Astoria, OR USA

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DEC paint color matching?

by chrise＠pobox.com

Has anyone ever tried to color match spray paint to the DEC "taupe" color (ie, the color of the front of a {clean} RL02)? I've got a bunch of stuff now with scratches and rust which I'd like to attempt to touch up or repaint. Is there any sort of standard color code for that DEC color? Chris -- Chris Elmquist

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Telequipment S51B Oscilloscope Free to a Good Home

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

I was given this oscilloscope recently but have since acquired a better one. This is a single channel oscilloscope and contains valves. The trace drifts up and down a bit and it is probably not calibrated either. I have a manual for it too. You just pay the postage. The item is in Manchester, UK. Regards Rob

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What Is It With Mains Filters?

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

All the PSUs that have had components pop on me have all been capacitors in the mains filter (except the H7140 in my PDP11 but that was only after I had been messing with it to try to fix it, so that doesn't count). Not being an expert in electronics I am not sure of the reason for this. Can someone explain? Is it the type of capacitor? Is that type of capacitor only used in mains filters? If not, why have I (so far) not seen other PSU capacitors blow up? Regards Rob

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Jack Eisenmann's Duo Adept

by lproven＠gmail.com

The 8-bit computer that?s been built by hand http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/06/17/the-8-bit-computer-thats-been-built… >From the video: [[ The DUO Adept is an 8-bit homebrew TTL CPU + GPU I have designed and built. As a challenge I used only basic kinds of logic chips; no microcontroller or video card. It has a black and white TV monitor and keyboard, and is generally awesome! Oh, and I forgot to mention: I made this when I was a highschooler with no formal education in electronics. :) For more information about the machine, please go to this page: http://web.mac.com/teisenmann/iWeb/adeptpage/menu.html ]] -- Liam Proven ? Info & profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

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Useless thread, RE:Religion, Re: Nazi System 360/370 book...

by ragooman＠gmail.com

On Jun 16, 2011 1:11 PM, "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> wrote: > > On 16 Jun 2011 at 11:56, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > Bronze vs Iron. > > Analog vs. digital... > Floating Point vs. Fixed Point

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Pdp 11/40

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

Running pdp 11/40 power ok. Power on...freezes with proc and bus lights on and no front panel response. Working to resolve any off the cuff ideas? Will post details if anyone interested to help. Bill -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Esprit keyboard

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Got an Esprit keyboard today and was wondering if it is a normal PS/2 type keyboard? It looks kind of like the Esprit 125c terminal keyboard but with a PS/2 plug instead of rj11.

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Calcomp Techjet on CL

by cclist＠sydex.com

http://eugene.craigslist.org/ele/2446255291.html Eugene, OR I'd pick it up, but I don't know what the heck I'd do with it. --Chuck

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Useless thread, RE:Religion, Re: Nazi System 360/370 book...

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

Kirk vs. Picard, Opps... Wrong group..

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Q-bus replacement systems pdp-11

by ken＠seefried.com

> http://www.transduction.com/pdf/NuPDPq_brochure_Transduction.pdf Interesting. If you look at the daughtercard on the PDQ-1000 (next to the probably-a-pentium-ish-CPU-fan), it looks pretty much like a PC/104 connector (upside down, of course) and the back panel port config is oh-so familiar. I'm betting a bog-standard embedded X86 system (new enough to have PCI) with a QBus interface running an emulator. As to the PDQ-2000 and -3200, I bet those are just Intel motherboards in a rackmount case. Chris Elmquist pointed out the CCI1016 looks (to me as well) to be a Comtrol RocketPort. The CEI-1000 is pretty clearly one of the myriad of Intel desktop Ethernet adapters. Their DQP-1100, -1300 and -1500 are DRV11 work-alikes made by Logical.

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Fw: Fwd: Commodore CBM Pet 8032

by nospam212-cctalk＠yahoo.com

I received this and as I am not in the UK, I'm passing it along. Contact them directly if you can help them out. David Williams http://www.trailingedge.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Commodore CBM Pet 8032 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:47:17 +0100 From: 0 <brutus504bc at googlemail.com> Hello there, I live in England and own an old Commodore CBM Pet 8032 computer. Ten years ago it was working fine and today I was clearing house and decided to turn it on before trashing it. It did come to life but has lots of unrecognized characters at bottom half of screen, and when I type anything on keyboard it mostly replies with "?SyntaxC13" or something of this nature. Is there anywhere in the UK you know of where people will be interested in this machine ? As it doesnt appear to be working correctly, I have no real wish to "Ebay" the item. It would be a shame to throw this out. Thanks, Paul.

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Useless thread, RE:Religion, Re: Nazi System 360/370, book...

by ken＠seefried.com

Edison v. Tesla

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Useless thread, RE:Religion, Re: Nazi System 360/370 book...

by david＠classiccomputing.com

> Message: 19 > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:58:25 -0400 > From: William Donzelli <wdonzelli at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Useless thread, RE:Religion, Re: Nazi System 360/370 > book... > > Who is the knob that started this holy war thread anyway? We should be > arguing about which brand of cement we will pour down his throat. > __ > Will Oh now, I don't think it would be nice to call anyone out ... Evan Koblentz! ... Now on to some nice political discussion. Evan, you want to start that one off?! ; ) Best, David Greelish, Computer Historian President, Atlanta Historical Computing Society Classic Computing The Home of Computer History Nostalgia http://www.classiccomputing.com Classic Computing Blog Classic Computing Show video podcast "Stan Veit's History of the Personal Computer" audiobook podcast Retro Computing Roundtable podcast

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Q-bus replacement systems pdp-11

by useddec＠gmail.com

I know someone who developed a pc emulator for the PDP-11 back in the late 80's or early 90's and had it approved by the FAA to replace 11/55's used in older flight simulators. Paul On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > At 4:55 PM -0400 6/16/11, Diane Bruce wrote: >> >> You lot seen this? >> >> http://www.transduction.com/pdf/NuPDPq_brochure_Transduction.pdf > > That's the most interesting bit of computer gear I've seen in a long time! > ?Up there with Chameleon 64. > > Zane > > > > > -- > | Zane H. Healy ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?| UNIX Systems Administrator | > | healyzh at aracnet.com ? ? ? ? ? ? ?| OpenVMS Enthusiast ? ? ? ? | > | ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?| Photographer ? ? ? ? ? ? ? | > +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ > | ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? My flickr Photostream ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? | > | ? ? ? ? ?http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ ? ? ? ? ? | >

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The ULTIMATE VS. Re: Useless thread, RE:Religion, Re: Nazi System 360/370 book...

by ragooman＠gmail.com

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > I've really basically given up on this... > > > At 10:54 AM -0700 6/16/11, Christian Liendo wrote: > >> Top Posting vs. Bottom Posting >> > > CISC vs RISC ;)

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Nazi System 360/370 book...

by trenchdweller＠att.net

Reino was an instructor at Cal Poly SLO when I was studying computer science there in the 1970's. He was a nice old guy. I learned 360 BAL from his class. I think he passed away in 2006. If I'm not mistaken I contributed to the writing of that book. I doubt he was a nazi. Paul > So my wife wanted to show me a book tonight. Turned out it was one > of mine, she'd noticed something interesting. > > System 360/370 > Job Control Language > and the > Access Methods > by Reino Hannula > > What's up with the Swastika on the spine of the book? It's made up > of little triangles, but it's definitely a swastika. Very strange.

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Life, the Universe and all that other stuff

by wbblair3＠yahoo.com

Bringing this back more on topic (but still not exactly about "classic" computing): 2011 Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate on The Theory of Everything http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYeN66CSQhg That is a fantastically interesting symposium to watch in its entirety, but these parts relate to reality as a computer simulation: Dr. Jim Gates at: 0:09:20 Who he is 1:00:21 What he's found 1:34:15 More specifics about what he's found (binary error correction codes in string theory equations) In the Science Channel show Through the Wormhole, another scientist found that certain characteristics of quantum mechanics can be explained by reality being a computer simulation. He noted that within the next fifty years, the computational power of the human brain will be available in a laptop that consumes the same amount of power or less and that this rate of growth in computational power far exceeds evolutionary increases in the human brain size/computational power being limited currently by the size of the birth canal. He extrapolates that process over billions of years to posit a higher intelligence programming a mega-computer to create our reality. Wild stuff to think about. In another Science Channel show on the nature of reality, I believe it was stated that a room-sized quantum computer may have the power of a conventional computer the size of the universe. As a result of this and the limitations of growth in biological computational power through evolutionary means (although biological intelligence created in vitro may be a means around this once we actually understand the nature biological intelligence), the most likely form of an advanced technological civilization would be a computer with AI. So, any ET civilization older than ours that we'd contact would most likely be AI. Dr. Gates stated in his introduction that Asimov's stories had inspired him to become a scientist. Here's one of them that follows the above conjectures, a story which blew my mind when I read it as a youngster: The Last Question by Isaac Asimov http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html

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Looking for Nissho N1100 PDP-11 CPU upgrade documentation

by staylor＠mrynet.com

I've recently acquired a Nissho N1100 CPU upgrade for a UNIBUS PDP-11. Does anyone have documentation on this boardset? (If responding directly to me via email, please use bub7734 at yahoo.com -- I can't manage to get a subscription approved for that address, so can't post from there) TIA! -scott

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Life, the Universe and all that other stuff (was RE: Nazi System 360/370 book...)

by IanK＠vulcan.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- > bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Zane H. Healy > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 6:34 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Nazi System 360/370 book... > > At 2:34 PM -0400 6/15/11, Evan Koblentz wrote: > >>Most of the time I spend time trying to understand why an otherwise > >>intelligent person could come to such unsupported conclusions about > >>some things. It's as if their logical thinking breaks down, and is no > >>longer around when faith steps into the room. > > > >That's exactly how I feel about "God". I cannot grasp why otherwise > >intelligent, rational people -- especially techies -- suspend their > >common sense to believe in an invisible man in the sky. > > > >I welcome a debate with anyone here who claims that believing in > >god(s) is somehow "different". > > I can't grasp how otherwise intelligent, rational people, especially techies, > don't believe in God. The alternative is illogical, as we understand better > than most, just how complex things really are. > That's an importantly profound observation about the question at hand. Considering the idea of 'least hypothesis', the idea of a consciousness behind the nature of the Universe - i.e. God - seems to be far more straightforward than the mass of conflicting hypotheses to explain the origin of the Universe and the (known) life forms within it. Taken one by one, and within constraints, many of those hypotheses do make sense - for instance, the idea of natural selection. That makes sense as the dynamics of a working system. But the origin of the system it assumes as its basis is not well explained by that same hypothesis, nor are apparently 'disruptive' events within it, e.g. the rise of human-order intelligence (or even the existence of higher-order life). Unfortunately, 'belief in God' is too often tied to 'belief' in a lot of other stuff, much of which seems to be contrived to ensure that those who work in the business of Organized Religion don't miss any meals. That tends to give it a bad name, especially among thinking people. I will argue there's a difference between 'unsupported conclusions' and 'faith.' The latter is more similar to selection of a set of axioms. Axioms are exempt from proof (although showing one is invalid is good for nuking anything premised thereupon), but should be atomic in nature to be useful in logical discourse. Once you show a proof for an article of faith, it enters into the realm of 'known facts.' Unsupported conclusions seem disjoint from the realm of 'known facts' and even from that of 'faith,' assumed to be self-evident without a supporting framework of axioms, hypothesis and logical process. (See, social conservatives.) Given the nature of this discussion, I'm going to the effort to make the following disclaimer: the above is my personal opinion and does not represent the official or casual opinion of my employer. -- Ian

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Vintage Portable Computing Suggestions?

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Guys, I used a Cambridge Z88 for Retrochallenge last year (see http://www.retrochallenge.org for last competition) whilst on holiday. The summer challenge runs in the month of July - entries will be welcome anytime by email to me mark at wickensonline dot co dot uk. This year I'd like to use a different, portable computing device to document this year's summer challenge, and possibly include a little programming. My criteria are: * no larger than a Cambridge Z88. * daylight readable screen. * operates on batteries. * preferably with some kind of programming language/environment. I'd welcome suggestions from members of the list as to what I could take this year that would be fun to explore but also practical enough to use day to day to write text for the website. I will take a laptop for uploading text via wifi, so some sort of PC connectivity is a must (although this could be as simple as an RS232 cable). Many thanks, Mark

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convert RX01 to RX02?

by chrise＠pobox.com

A couple of the items we "saved" this weekend from the garage in MN included both an RX01 and an RX02 floppy system. Unfortunately, the mice got to the RX02 before we did and really had quite the palacial estate inside the cardboard box with foam packing that held the unit. Needless to say, everything that comes out of a mouse pretty much covered this drive system. Mouse effluent #1 turned the whole thing to #2. It looks to be a total loss. However, the RX01, in another box, was tightly wrapped in plastic and appears to have survived. Also obtained were a spare set of RX02 "formatter" boards, which are the electronics that go in the chassis and sit above the drives. Does anyone know if a pair of RX01 drives and power supply can be converted to an RX02 by just changing the formatter boards in the chassis? Were the drives themselves different? or did they get to double density by just changing the formatter? Chris -- Chris Elmquist

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convert RX01 to RX02?

by jonas＠otter.se

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Chris Elmquist <chrise at pobox.com> wrote: > Unfortunately, the mice got to the RX02 before we did and really had > quite the palacial estate inside the cardboard box with foam packing > that held the unit. Needless to say, everything that comes out of a > mouse pretty much covered this drive system. Mouse effluent #1 turned > the whole thing to #2. It looks to be a total loss. That's why one needs a cat /Jonas

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MAINDEC for Alpha?

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

> Is there something like MAINDEC for Alpha? > I have an AS1000 that randomly goes catatonic and > I'd like to try to narrow down what's going on. On some occasions if running VMS, ANAL/ERROR can have useful tidbits. (Or ANAL/ERROR/ELV TRANSLATE on newer versions of VMS. Or DECEvent/Diagnose.) But... it's just an AS1000. Flaky memory and/or flaky sockets and/or crappy power supplies will be the majority of failures. Tim.

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Off-topic, but important: My mail seems to have been hacked

by madcrow.maxwell＠gmail.com

I got home and logged into my Gmail today only to find a pile of undelived/blocked message reports and a popup box saying something about a login from China. Apparently somebody managed to steal my account info and use it as a spam zombie. As I participate in many retrocomputing groups, I figured that this might be as good a place as any to let folks know what has happened as I try to clean up this mess. Mike

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OT RE: ham radio licenses

by IanK＠vulcan.com

So, me too. :-) I was first licensed back in 1972 and let it lapse about ten years later, but all this talk got me motivated, too. Unlike Dave, I missed the Extra exam (by only a point, they told me), but I did earn a General class ticket. I'm waiting for crystals to bring up my HT-220, a true "nostalgia toy" as I used to work on them back in the late '70s, and in the meantime I've been working some SSB on 40 and 20, and playing with a 2M handheld. I was going to restore a Drake B-line I picked up a few years ago - again, out of nostalgia for these outstanding radios - but in one of my few eBay transactions where I was snookered, I ended up with a radio that looks like it sat in someone's carport for a few years. After working on it for a bit, I decided it's "a bridge too far" for my available time and patience, and I picked up a Kenwood TS-430S through Craigslist. It's never too late to have a happy childhood! -- Ian (K7PDP) > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- > bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:26 PM > To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: OT: ham radio licenses > > > I had a ham license (coded Tech class, KA2UZK) from 1984 to 1994, and was > quite active on VHF FM and HF CW during that time. I've missed it quite a > bit over the years and have always intended to relicense, but the piles of > rules changes gave me pause, as rote memorization isn't really my strong > suit. > > Well, the recent discussion of ham radio licensing motivated me to finally > get off my butt and do it. I studied off-and-on for a few days to assimilate > the new rules & regs, and registered for the VE test given at the hamfest in > Hagerstown, MD on April 31st. I sat for all three exams...Element 2 > (Technician class), Element 3 (General class) and Element 4 (Extra class). > > I am very proud to report that I passed them all the first time through! > And, I don't mind saying, the Extra exam made my head hurt. > The FCC processed my paperwork very quickly, and on May 5th I was granted > an Extra-class license and assigned call sign AK4HZ. > > Of I'm still in West Virginia handling family business, while all of my ham > gear is in Florida, but my mother (who is house-sitting for me in > Florida) was able to ship two of my HTs up here so I'd have something at > least. When I have access to my HF gear (Yaesu FT-ONE and FT-920, Heath > HW-7, HW-8, and HW-9 QRP rigs, and Heath SB-101) I hope to try out some of > the neat new(ish) stuff like PSK31 that came up while I was away. > High-tech stuff aside, I'm sure to do some plain old SSB and CW on the HF > bands. > > Anyway, enough of my blather, I'm just proud to have accomplished that > and wanted to tell everyone. I'm hoping to catch some of you on the air! > > -Dave > 73's DE AK4HZ > > -- > Dave McGuire > Port Charlotte, FL

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MAINDEC for Alpha?

by CCTECH＠beyondthepale.ie

Dave McGuire wrote: >On 6/13/11 5:11 PM, Daniel Seagraves wrote: >> Is there something like MAINDEC for Alpha? >> I have an AS1000 that randomly goes catatonic and I'd like to try to narrow down what's going on. >> It will do it shortly after boot, usually within 15 minutes, and won't run for longer than an hour at most. >> Sometimes it hangs hard and must be power-cycled, sometimes it crashes with random messages. >> The SRM diagnostics say nothing is wrong, even when run for very long loops. > > I can't help you with your specific question, but as far as general >info about the AS1000, if you find yourself spending too much time on >it, trash it and get something like an AS4100 to replace it. The AS1000 >is one of the crappiest, flakiest machines I've ever seen come out of >DEC. I've owned several, and every one of them ended up giving me problems. > I have had a fair amount of grief with my AS1000A machines but I wouldn't say it was much more than my other DEC machines which all have their own share of problems. Do you ever get a real crash complete with crashdump? If so, analysis of the dump may help pin down the problem. If not, there might still be something in the error log. It may be worth making sure the CPU board is seated correctly in its slot - I have had issues with this and I assume the AS1000 and AS1000A are the same in this respect. As far as I can tell the main difference between them is that the AS1000A has more PCI slots instead of (E)ISA slots. The B-Cache on the CPU board seems to be prone to failure, however it usually shows up in the diagnostics. It can be disabled by moving a jumper and the machine will run with reduced performance. (The memexer diagnostic will then spectacularly fail as it appears to divide something by the cache size...) I've also had memory failures but these also showed up in the diagnostics for me (sometimes the diagnostics seem to report the wrong slot as being faulty). However, I've also seen memory problems in other alphas cause random hangs while nothing shows up in diagnostics. You could try running with a reduced amount of memory. As with any machine, it is worth checking the the power supply voltages are correct and don't have excess ripple. Right now, I've got one that used to randomly halt and now randomly switches itself off. I suspect problems with the front panel switches or related logic but I haven't worked up the enthusiasm to check this theory out. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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VAX 11/785

by useddec＠gmail.com

The owner of the 785 and I could not connect last weekend. I had an epidural earlier, and will be allowed to drive tomorrow, and hopefully walk better. The plan is now to see it this weekend, and I hope to take pics and a fairly accurate inventory. I will try to post same day. Paul

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MAINDEC for Alpha?

by dseagrav＠lunar-tokyo.net

Is there something like MAINDEC for Alpha? I have an AS1000 that randomly goes catatonic and I'd like to try to narrow down what's going on. It will do it shortly after boot, usually within 15 minutes, and won't run for longer than an hour at most. Sometimes it hangs hard and must be power-cycled, sometimes it crashes with random messages. The SRM diagnostics say nothing is wrong, even when run for very long loops.

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FS: HP iPAQ H1910 with Dyalog's Pocket APL

by ss＠allegro.com

Hi, I have an HP iPAQ H1910 (almost classic :) for sale: $50 plus postage. Includes: Working HP iPAQ H1910 (Pocket PC, with PocketPC 2002 Pro) (has Outlook, Pocket Excel, Pocket Word). Comes with A/C adapter, stylus, and an HP pouch (probably not the original/correct pouch) No box or manuals. Dyalog's Pocket APL, installed (was legitimately purchased and installed via download, hence no Dyalog media) (code date probably late 2003, and is probably 10.0.3) Synch/charge cable Has a screen protector installed. Condition: very good (nearly unused), except for minor scotch tape residue on the back, and one minor scratch on back. Stan

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recent score :)

by jlw＠jlw.com

> Ok, it's a small one, but it's wonderful to me :) > > I just got a case of 1/2 mag tape EOT markers :) Anyone need a pack? > > Jay West I was perusing old cctech items, and ran across this. I suppose I ought to have some, if you still have any left.... -- Jeff Woolsey {woolsey,jlw}(a){jlw,jxh}.com first.last at gmail.com "A toy robot!!!!" -unlucky Japanese scientist "And Leon's getting laaaarrger!" -Johnny "Delete! Delete! OK!" -Dr. Bronner on disk space management "I didn't get a 'Harrumph!' out of _that_ guy." -Gov Le Petomaine Spum bad keming.

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Booting OpenVMS/VAX from OpenVMS/Integrity

by ploopster＠gmail.com

Is it possible to clusterboot OpenVMS/VAX 7.2/3 from OpenVMS/Integrity 8.2? Peace... Sridhar

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DECserver 90L+

by fryers＠gmail.com

Hi all, I have a DECServer 90L+ that I am trying to use as a terminal server. After some time, I managed to get it powered up and started to look for MOP boot requests. However, the expected, give me a MOP boot image broadcast on the network did not occur. The Ethernet frames that I see give the impression that the DECServer is looking for a specific machine on the network. I am also not getting any output on the first serial port (MMJ to MMJ cable connected to a VT320)[1]. So, first question. Does anyone know how to do a factory reset on these. The operating manual isn't much help. :( Oh, I am considering it a success so far in that I got it powered up and saw Ethernet traffic from it! [1] I haven't checked my MMJ cable for continuity yet. Many thanks. Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh

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Cambridge Z88

by lproven＠gmail.com

Possibly a bit modern for folks on here... ;?) I've just bought 1 cheaply on eBay (under ?15) and am considering a 2nd as a cheap way to get some additional storage for it. The device has 3 proprietary card slots, 2 for RAM or Flash, 1 for an EPROM. I was wondering if anyone had devised some device to let owners use much cheaper modern Flash storage in 'em, such as CF or SD cards? Given that they've been interfaced to Spectrums and so on these days... -- Liam Proven ? Info & profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

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Exploratorium looking 4 working ASR-33 or KSR

by bdamer＠digitalspace.com

Team if anyone on this list has a working ASR/KSR-33 they would like to donate for an excellent exhibit at the Exploratorium, please contact Ron below, see note... Your Name: Ron Hipschman Your Email address: ronh at exploratorium.edu Do you guys have a functioning RS-232 teletytpe (ASR-33 or KSR-33) kicking around that might want to be donated to the Exploratorium for a possible exhibit? Ron Hipschman

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Exploratorium looking 4 working ASR-33 or KSR

by tsw-cc＠johana.com

Message: 13 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:14:49 -0700 From: Eric Smith <eric at brouhaha.com> Subject: Re: Exploratorium looking 4 working ASR-33 or KSR To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Cc: ronh at exploratorium.edu Message-ID: <4DF57299.4090403 at brouhaha.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 06/12/2011 19:14:39, Eric Smith wrote: >On 06/12/2011 03:47 PM, Bruce Damer wrote: >> Team if anyone on this list has a working ASR/KSR-33 they would like >> to donate for an excellent exhibit at the Exploratorium, please >> contact Ron below, see note... >> >> Your Name: Ron Hipschman >> Your Email address: ronh at exploratorium.edu >> >> Do you guys have a functioning RS-232 teletytpe (ASR-33 or KSR-33) >> kicking around that might want to be donated to the Exploratorium for >> a possible exhibit? >> >> Ron Hipschman >> >I've seen a lot of model 33 Teletypes, and I've never yet seen one that >is RS-232. They are almost all current loop. I don't recall seeing any >mention of an RS-232 option in the manuals, although that may have >existed as a third-party modification. >IIRC, the model 40, 42, and 43 machines offered RS-232. The 40 is a CRT >terminal with an optional printer, and the 43 and 43 are 5-level and >ASCII (respectively) versions of a compact dot matrix printing terminal. Oh ye of little faith. Tymshare made LOTS of RS232 capable ASR-33's. They had a mod kit that they used along with the OEM call control unit. It came in several models. The early one (circa 1968) had a small transformer (to make the proper voltages) and a control board with a relay to turn on the motor when CD (pin 8) became true. It preserved the Local/Off/Line switch function (the rotary switch on the call control unit). A later version used push buttons on the cover plate that goes over the CCU section of the ASR/KSR-33. They replaced the Line/Off/Local rotary switch on the "front panel" that was subject to knob breakage (usually a panicked service call). The front escutcheon that had the hole for the Line/Off/Local switch was replaced with a nice Tymshare enhanced logo snap on plate that looked nice. My (at the moment lost or trashed) ASR-33 I did my own RS-232 conversion. It consisted of taking taps off of the transformer of the CCU (to get the other voltage) and including a nice solid state relay to do the "Carrier Detect" function for motor control. It required only a couple of transistors for the receive (RS232 to 20ma CL) and resistor tree for the other direction. Having a RS-232 capable ASR33 was a real nice thing to have when most of the connectors were DB-25's. On another note: I do have a couple of old DECWRITERS. An LA-30 (modified for lower case) and a larger wide carriage one that I don't remember the model number (upper and lower case as well). Ah yes, fun from the past....

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HP LaserJet 6P

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Is it possible to change a 6P into a 6MP by adding a Postscript SIMM? If so do the RAM and PS from a 5MP work in a 6P? Just wondering about 6P I picked up as a spare, as my current Laser is a 5MP (and I like the PostScript capabilities), I figure it's good to know these things ahead of time. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

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New NSA declassifications

by cclist＠sydex.com

NSA releases 50K pages of documents. See: http://cryptome.org/0004/nsa-50k-docs.pdf Perusing the list, I see quite a number of IBM 7950 "Harvest" documents that should make for some interesting reading. --Chuck

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PDP-10 KI10 front panel auction

by pontus＠Update.UU.SE

Hi Did anyone here get this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160597433178 I was outbid, but I'm a bit surprised at the low price, this must be a hens teeth. Cheers, Pontus.

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Project for someone?

by lproven＠gmail.com

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110611/ap_on_hi_te/us_video_games_quadriplegics -- Liam Proven ? Info & profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

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Need Wang VS6230 Boot Diskettes

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

The Rhode Island Computer Museum has a Wang 6230 CPU in a VS5700 10-slot chassis along with four SCSI controllers and terminal controllers. That probably makes it close to a VS6230. The model for GENEDIT is a 6128. https://sites.google.com/site/ricmwarehouse/Home/equipment/wang-vs6230 The system was donated without the internal SCSI drive. We have plenty of SCSI disks that we can install, but we don't have the VS boot floppy or disk initialization utility for this system. Does anyone know where the diskettes for this system could be located? -- Michael Thompson

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FWD: PDP11 hardware available in Dayton, MN

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Here's something I found in alt.sys.pdp11. I have no connection to Bruce Mitchell. Would someone please save this stuff from the scrap heap? David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu --begin quote-- Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:28:15 alt.sys.pdp11 Thread 1 of 1 Lines 17 PDP11 hardware available for pickup 6 Responses Dr. Klahn <xxdpplus at yahoo.com> at http://groups.google.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp11 Jim Bostwick's computer collection is going for rescue or recycling. The following items are up for grabs: 11/44, 11/40, TU80, Pertec rack mount 9 channel tape, Fuji J11 board for 11/24, considerable DEC documents, RK07 drives and packs, RL01/RL02 drives and packs, Fuji Double Eagle SMDs, CDC 9730/160 SMDs, numerous ST506 drives. I'm sorry, but I don't have a detailed list of everything available. Any of the above that anyone wants, they can have free. Pick it up or arrange for pickup in Dayton, MN before June 20, 2011, the sooner the better. Bruce Mitchell Editor Emeritus, "The Multi-Tasker" Contact me through: http://www.miim.com/consult.html#conts

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Source for RT-11 TECO V36

by jhfinedp3k＠compsys.to

I have used TECO on and off for 30 years (mostly off for the past 15 years). The latest version that I can find which was released for RT-11 is TECO V36. This version was released with V04.00 of RT-11 in 1980. The TECO command "EO=" confirms that the version is V36. About a year ago, I found some source code for TECO V36 which assembles to V36 when asked via "EO=", but the TECO.SAV file is significantly different from the version released with V04.00 of RT-11 in 1980. The version based on the source code that I found is 51 blocks long and it uses more memory. The version from RT-11 V04.00 is just 50 blocks long and has a much smaller root section. Probably most of the code is the same, just that some of the code that is in the root of the version for which I have the source has been moved to an overlay. Does anyone have or know where I might find the actual source code for TECO V36 that was released with V04.00 of RT-11 in 1980? If it is just almost identical, that would be sufficient since it is usually possible to easily make a few modifications to obtain the identical TECO.SAV when the differences are minor. Often, the differences seem major since they can be the result of a single extra word (plus or minus) which shifts the rest of the code and makes an exact comparison impossible. But those changes are easy to find and correct if the knowledge and experience of what to do is available. Since the TECO V36 released with V04.00 of RT-11 is now 31 years old and I have not heard of any bugs, I have much more confidence in its reliability as opposed to the version for which I have the source code. Jerome Fine

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Free for the cost of shipping : TI Silent 700

by hp-fix＠xs4all.nl

As it says a TI Silent 700 terminal, acoustic coupler type. It's in working condition but the keyboard needs attention not all keys are working. -Rik

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DT-03 & DT-07

by quapla＠xs4all.nl

During cleanup & preparation for reducing my collection, I came across a small backplane with small flip-chips and marked 'DT-03'. The backplane can be mounted horizontally in a rack. The DT-07 is a single card with 3 berg connectors which apparently go to the 2nd card which is named 'DT-07 connector/terminator'. Anyone know what this is? Ed -- Dit is een HTML vrije email / This is an HTML free email.

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Computer Move in Utah

by jthecman＠netscape.net

Hello The museum has been donated a complete ATEX system with all of it's supporting parts. I will be flying into Salt Lake City either late June 23rd or early June 24th to rent a truck move everything to a storage unit there and we can move it to Houston yet (low funds). If anyone living in the area can help it would be really great. Contact me off list if you can help. Thanks, John

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Drawing lines on metal panels

by silvercreekvalley＠yahoo.com

I'm trying to recondition a metal front panel which is white with black lettering. ? Some of the controls have boxes drawn around them in black, and on one of the boxes, the black line has faded away. ? I'd like to repair this, and wondered if anyone has any suggestions. The line is about 1mm, possibly 2mm?wide. ? I've tried a quality marker pen, but the ink doesnt 'stick' to the panel, also its not a clean enough edge on the line. ? I'm thinking that something like lettreset might work - the line is only about 5cm long (or 2" in old money). ? I havent managed to find anyone selling 'lines' though, just letters. ? Any ideas? ? Thanks ? Ian ?

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fun electronics+vintage success

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 12:00 -0500 6/8/11, Dave wrote: > So, I rewrote the assembler assists for MVS, wrote the small pile of >JCL required to compile it all, and got it working today. I'm now >happily running SPICE simulations under MVS 3.8J on an emulated (via >Hercules) IBM 370. At 12:00 -0500 6/8/11, Randy wrote: >I built this too a couple months ago, using gcc in fortran mode. Geek meter: pegged! Pretty cool ... -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

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Core Memory Board - DEC H215

by doug＠doughq.com

HI, A couple of months ago there was somebody looking for a replacement core board. I apologise for sending to the list, but I have lost the email. I have one - condition completely unknown, but at least the cores appear intact - and still covered by the perspex shield. It is available for shipping - I am in Australia. It is identified as a 8K x 18 array. Doug

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PDP11 hardware available for pickup

by jhfinedp3k＠compsys.to

Appeared on :"alt.sys.pdp11". I know neither Jim Bostwick nor Bruce Mitchell. I have never had any contact with them. Jerome Fine >Dr. Klahn wrote: >Jim Bostwick's computer collection is going for rescue >or recycling. The following items are up for grabs: > >11/44, 11/40, TU80, Pertec rack mount 9 channel tape, >Fuji J11 board for 11/24, considerable DEC documents, >RK07 drives and packs, RL01/RL02 drives and packs, Fuji >Double Eagle SMDs, CDC 9730/160 SMDs, numerous ST506 >drives. I'm sorry, but I don't have a detailed list of >everything available. > >Any of the above that anyone wants, they can have free. >Pick it up or arrange for pickup in Dayton, MN before June >20, 2011, the sooner the better. > >Bruce Mitchell >Editor Emeritus, "The Multi-Tasker" >Contact me through: http://www.miim.com/consult.html#conts >

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[hercules-os360] fun electronics+vintage success

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 6/7/11 5:43 PM, Dave wrote: > I hope to eventually be able to run this on my real System/370 at the > new building in PA. > > Be very interested in seeing the results from this on real hardware. > When I ran Spice II under VM/370R6 I got slightly different results to > the sample print outs provided. I know it was one digit in the last > place so could just be normal floating point jitter, on the other hand > it could be something in the Hercules floating point code not adding > enough guard bytes. Any comment It's easily many months off, but when I do bring up that machine, I'm sure I'll inform (i.e., "brag to" ;)) everyone here. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL

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fun electronics+vintage success

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

[cross-posted to the hercules-os360 and midatlanticretro lists due to relevant references] Due to all the stuff going on lately, there have been times over the past few weeks when I've needed some therapeutic hack time. I dug up the source code for the Berkeley SPICE 2 analog circuit simulator, plus the assembler assists for IBM 360/370 mainframes. SPICE 2 is written in FORTRAN IV, but it requires assembler assists for a few things, and they must be provided for whatever architecture and operating system you're porting it to. (well, C under UNIX, but assembler on most everything else) The 360/370 assembler assists were written for the VM/370 operating system; they use the DIAGNOSE interface to CP for TOD clock access. While I do run VM/370 from time to time, most recently I've been pretty deeply into MVS. So, I rewrote the assembler assists for MVS, wrote the small pile of JCL required to compile it all, and got it working today. I'm now happily running SPICE simulations under MVS 3.8J on an emulated (via Hercules) IBM 370. This required learning lots of new stuff, which of course is the best part. Now I know a lot more about 360/370 assembler, how to call assembler routines from FORTRAN and pass data back and forth, and how to compile/assemble and link multiple modules into a single executable via JCL. I've not yet tried it under OS/360 MVT, but I will soon. I hope to eventually be able to run this on my real System/370 at the new building in PA. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL

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