- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/series1 more that you ever wanted to know. there's a bit more yet being pushed out to the mirrors.

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Commodore Superpet video problem -- ideas?

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

> From: Robert Ferguson <rob at bitscience.ca> > Subject: Commodore Superpet video problem -- ideas? > To: cctech at classiccmp.org > Date: Thursday, January 31, 2013, 3:07 PM > > Hi folks, > > I'm having intermittent problems with my Superpet. It will > run fine for some time, but then will "glitch" for a couple > of seconds (including video distortion), and then hang. > > Having done a bit of digging, I suspect that the flyback > transformer is arcing internally. The video board is the one > in this schematic (http://zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/s...032/321448.gif). > > I can hear the arcing sound from area of the transformer > when the glitch occurs, and I see no obvious external > indications of anything sparking or shorting. I have looked > at the voltages at the various test points noted on the > video board schematic during normal operation, and they all > appear OK. > <TEXT CUT> > > Thanks for any help anyone can provide. > > Rob Ferguson > > I would say to use an oscilloscope to monitor the circuit *driving* the flyback transformer. I had an issue on a Compucolor II where this signal would periodically glitch, which changed the frequency, and cause the flyback to over-voltage and spark every time. The signal would glitch whether the flyback was plugged in or not.

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Intel 310 computer case.

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Regarding microvax parts, you can have whatever you want. Just telll me where it is precisely, with line drawings if. Necessary. I know absolutely nuthink about DEC. ------------------------------ On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:04 PM PST Jerry Wright wrote: > > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Chris Tofu <rampaginggreenhulk at yahoo.com> >To: cctalk at classiccmp.org >Sent: Thu, January 31, 2013 11:22:59 PM >Subject: Re: Intel 310 computer case. > > >Multibus box - I'll take it. Ships to 08005 probably. > >Chris this is real bare. has a limited Multibus back plane. >No much bigger than a PC. no Power supply. I might have >larger Mulibus box here if that would be better. ??? > >I see your other reply. The M7555 is the disk controller >for the Microvax. You should see the number on the >colored pull. It has a large ribbon cable connection >on the outward end. > >- Jerry > >------------------------------ >On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:42 PM PST Jerry Wright wrote: > >>I have a good empty case. any one need one ?? >> >>Free + shipping >> >>- Jerry

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Intel 310 computer case.

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Jerry - I WANT THAT BOX.LOL LOL LOL In German - Der friggin boxen must becomen meinen If you'll send it to.me, I'll take it. I don't know what else you have . Perhaps that is also of interest. Where are you located? And please don't get offended at my humor. I'm a sick man... ------------------------------ On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:04 PM PST Jerry Wright wrote: Me > > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Chris Tofu <rampaginggreenhulk at yahoo.com> >To: cctalk at classiccmp.org >Sent: Thu, January 31, 2013 11:22:59 PM >Subject: Re: Intel 310 computer case. > > >Multibus box - I'll take it. Ships to 08005 probably. > >Chris this is real bare. has a limited Multibus back plane. >No much bigger than a PC. no Power supply. I might have >larger Mulibus box here if that would be better. ??? > >I see your other reply. The M7555 is the disk controller >for the Microvax. You should see the number on the >colored pull. It has a large ribbon cable connection >on the outward end. > >- Jerry > >------------------------------ >On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:42 PM PST Jerry Wright wrote: > >>I have a good empty case. any one need one ?? >> >>Free + shipping >> >>- Jerry

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Intel 310 computer case.

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Multibus box - I'll take it. Ships to 08005 probably. ------------------------------ On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:42 PM PST Jerry Wright wrote: >I have a good empty case. any one need one ?? > >Free + shipping > >- Jerry

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wanted: German translation of magazine article

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:34 AM PST Stefan Skoglund wrote: >Considering how badly google translates german to swedish, I THINK NOT >! Yeah. Im going to begin informally studying German soon. I have a Swedish cd too. Ill never forget how to say fish in Swedish. This much I can tell you. Lathe in German is drehbank I think. Watch maker is uhrmacher. I love German machinery.

13 years, 6 months

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looking for Dec M7555 and M8061 cards

by g-wright＠att.net

Anyone have a stash of either card. Have a few micro vax machines that are missing the M7555 and I need a couple of the M8061's for my micro PDP11's Also could use a 7140 Power supply or boards. seems like every few years one of my 11/24or44's machines has PS problems. Thanks, Jerry

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HP 3.5 discs I wonder inf in the HP 150 manual?

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

HP 3.5 discs I wonder if in the HP 150 manual? Back when we sold the things .... I still have a maint manual for the 150... offlist mail me if you still have questions and I will dig it up. Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC www.smecc.org In a message dated 2/1/2013 10:25:55 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org writes: Message: 5 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:50:14 +0000 (GMT) From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Looking for Appendix to HP 3.5" disc drive service manual (disc commands) Message-ID: <m1U121T-000J4cC at p850ug1> Content-Type: text/plain > I was interested to read about the differences between the 9121 and > 82901 commands, eg the 9121 supports a superset of the 82901 commands > and so should be fully backwards compatible. One difference I have noted I beleive it was specifically designed to be. It was intended that any systme that supported the 82901 could also use the 9121, no matter waht assumptions it made. In this repsect, the respose to the standard idenmtification coammends is the same, there is one extended command that returns a differnet value o nthe 2 drives so it is possible to tell them apart, but a ssytsem designed fo the 82901 wouldn't use that command. Also the total numebr of sectors per disk is the same -- IIRC the 82901 is double-sided 35 cylidner and the 9121 is single sided 70 cylinder. -tony

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looking for Dec M7555 and M8061 cards

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:38 PM PST Jerry Wright wrote: >Anyone have a stash of either card. Have a few >micro vax machines that are missing the M7555 >and I need a couple of the M8061's for my micro >PDP11's > >Also could use a 7140 Power supply or boards. >seems like every few years one of my 11/24or44's >machines has PS problems. > > > Thanks, Jerry > I don't have a clue what you're looking for, but I have a MVax parts machine. Maybe that has what you're looking for...

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Need help with PDP-8/A, VTServer & PDP-11

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

On Feb 1, 2013, at 12:00 PM, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > From: Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: > Message-ID: <510AD86B.8020007 at dunnington.plus.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 31/01/2013 05:37, Charles wrote: >> Anyhow, I figure that the OS/8 pack might have become corrupted, so I >> attempted to reload it on my 11/23+ system (which IS working and >> passing >> memory tests) using VTserver, which is how I created it the first >> time. >> However, since I last successfully did it, I've upgraded the 11/23+ >> boot >> ROMs to the KDF11B-BH V1.0. This is the only hardware change. Not >> sure >> if that has anything to do with the problem > >> Do I need to go back to the original boot ROM in order to use >> VTserver >> (i.e. is there some change made to ODT that is messing things up?) > > The boot ROMs have no bearing on ODT, which is in the microcode in the > KDF11 itself. So you can eliminate at least one area of concern. > What > boot ROMs did you have before? Were they 2K ones (11/23+) or 8K ones > (microPDP-11/23)? Have you changed any jumpers during the upgrade? > > -- > Pete The original ones (-339, -340) are 2716 EPROMs (2k). The only jumper changed was the J23-24 which the manual says to set for 8K proms, and J23-22 for 2k. I put the old ones back in (and set the jumper accordingly) and the transfer proceeded normally. For whatever reason the new ones do not like VTserver. Incidentally, the problem with the 8/A & RL02 turned out to be simply a bad ribbon cable connection (my fault) where the IDC connector plugs into the RL8A card. The previous OS/8 pack boots and runs normally too... now I can get back to playing Lunar Lander in FOCAL on the Teletype, and ADVENT :) -Charles

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$4,000 for an Apple II ?

by jbdigriz＠crucible.dragonsweb.org

Steven Hirsch <snhirsch at gmail.com> wrote .. > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, mc68010 wrote: > > > I can't believe how crazy the Apple thing has got. One of Sellam's Apple II > > just sold for almost $4k. Wow. > > Rev. 0 Apple ][s with low serial numbers are being sought after. Another > unit went for > $5k the other week, but the buyer apparently reneged. If > that was one of Sellam's, it's all the more ammunition for his legal > action. > > I can accept that there may be cases where a landlord can auction items > left on premises under a default, but I'm not aware of any situation where > they are allowed to blindly profit from the action. > > Steve > > > -- It's not just an Apple thing. A TI-99/8 just went for $3240 on Ebay. It seems this was the second one over $3000 in the last 6 mos., so apparently it's not a fluke. Prices on vintage stuff generally seem to be on an up-cycle, apparently unlike the value of the time and labor spent assembling and protecting collections of historical, cultural, or economic significance. Tell it to the vandals in Timbuktu, maybe. I'm just catching up on the list after being too busy to read it the last couple of months, and I'm still digesting Sellam's situation. Been through some similar circumstances, myself, and on the other hand, I do some work for an asset management co. that handles a lot of rentals, and to my intense dislike, property left behind after sadly , no matter what you do, with owners breathing down your neck, the inevitable evictions, property we go out of the way to have the tenant come get. But they don't. Much less pay the back rent. So maybe I have a somewhat unique perspective on the matter. I'm not sure, however, that I could remain either temperate or coherent about it, so I'm going to refrain from comment just now. I can tell, though, when failure to pay rent on a timely basis is a thinly veiled pretext for theft. Good luck, Sellam. jbdigriz

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Commodore Superpet video problem -- ideas?

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

> > I'm having intermittent problems with my Superpet. It will run fine for some > time, but then will "glitch" for a couple of seconds (including video > distortion), and then hang. > > Having done a bit of digging, I suspect that the flyback transformer is > arcing internally. The video board is the one in this schematic > (http://zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/s...032/321448.gif). > The link is mangled. I think it should be: http://zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/schematics/computers/pet/8032/321448.gif > > I can hear the arcing sound from area of the transformer when the glitch > occurs, and I see no obvious external indications of anything sparking or > shorting. I have looked at the voltages at the various test points noted > on the video board schematic during normal operation, and they all appear OK. > > I'm sort of stuck at this point. Should I replace the flyback? The part > number is 2432641AL 25M, and it's T721 on the board; does anyone know of > an available equivalent? > I'm not familiar with the the Superpet but I have had similar faults in other equipment which were caused by failed joints on the PCB. If the problem happens reasonably frequently, one approach is to darken the room and watch the underside of the PCB for little sparks. If it doesn't happen that frequently, another approach is to try tapping the PCB at various points with a well insulated implement such as a plastic ruler or other tool to see if the fault can be mechanically provoked. Do not overlook the possibility of arcing at the EHT connector on the CRT or on the CRT base. I would hate to end up replacing a major component and finding that the problem was still there. > > Alternatively, could this behaviour be caused by a bad electrolytic > capacitor? I'm specifically suspicious of C754 (47uF/250V), but my knowledge > of CRT theory is not deep, and I lack a good way to test the capacitor in > circuit. > It's not the sort of thing I'd suspect an electrolytic capacitor of but I suppose it is possible. Usually when they are stressed enough to make noise, there are visible signs of stress too. An oscilloscope connected between its negative terminal and ground it would probably show a significant increase in ripple or reduction in voltage when the problem happens if the capacitor is at fault. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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a test was Re: Intel 310 computer case.

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

>I have a good empty case. any one need one ?? > >Free + shipping > >- Jerry This is only a test...

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Intel 310 computer case.

by g-wright＠att.net

I have a good empty case. any one need one ?? Free + shipping - Jerry

13 years, 6 months

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Commodore Superpet video problem -- ideas?

by rob＠bitscience.ca

Hi folks, I'm having intermittent problems with my Superpet. It will run fine for some time, but then will "glitch" for a couple of seconds (including video distortion), and then hang. Having done a bit of digging, I suspect that the flyback transformer is arcing internally. The video board is the one in this schematic (http://zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/s...032/321448.gif). I can hear the arcing sound from area of the transformer when the glitch occurs, and I see no obvious external indications of anything sparking or shorting. I have looked at the voltages at the various test points noted on the video board schematic during normal operation, and they all appear OK. I'm sort of stuck at this point. Should I replace the flyback? The part number is 2432641AL 25M, and it's T721 on the board; does anyone know of an available equivalent? Alternatively, could this behaviour be caused by a bad electrolytic capacitor? I'm specifically suspicious of C754 (47uF/250V), but my knowledge of CRT theory is not deep, and I lack a good way to test the capacitor in circuit. Thanks for any help anyone can provide. Rob Ferguson

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hi

by jcw1231＠pacbell.net

hey have a look http://bit.ly/14tqlrm JC

13 years, 6 months

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Looking for Appendix to HP 3.5" disc drive service manual (disc commands)

by john_a_s2004＠hotmail.com

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, Glen Slick wrote: > Not the exact manual you were looking for but might have the same > information. This scanned copy includes pages Appendix A-1 through > A-36. > http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/hp/disc/5957-6584_9123D_3.5_Flex_Dis… Thanks Glen that's great, must have been a few minor corrections to Appendix A in this update to the original service manual. I was interested to read about the differences between the 9121 and 82901 commands, eg the 9121 supports a superset of the 82901 commands and so should be fully backwards compatible. One difference I have noted is using HPdir the 9121 appears to faster than the 82901, in that on a fast PC HPdir has to be slowed down to work successfully with the 82901 (eg by enabling logging) and works fine with the 9121, and on a slow PC both drives work fine with no attempts to further slow down the program. I've fed this back to the program author for further analysis. I can try and dump the drive firmware if anyone is interested in doing a detailed comparison. Regards, John

13 years, 6 months

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Need help with PDP-8/A, VTServer & PDP-11

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

A frustrating evening in vintage computer-land, as you will see. Also the drive belt popped off my 33ASR during the fun. And Windows Networking to the old PC I use to run VTserver was initially nonfunctional as usual, but I digress. I fired up my PDP-8/A after a long hiatus, and it won't boot OS/8 any more (on boot, the RL02 immediately flashes its Fault light briefly but then becomes ready again, and the system halts). The drive seems to be working without errors at least according to the short test programs from the user's guide I keyed in - I don't have a diagnostic pack - but reading the status register shows no error bits set, and the Oscillating Seek program also runs properly... Anyhow, I figure that the OS/8 pack might have become corrupted, so I attempted to reload it on my 11/23+ system (which IS working and passing memory tests) using VTserver, which is how I created it the first time. However, since I last successfully did it, I've upgraded the 11/23+ boot ROMs to the KDF11B-BH V1.0. This is the only hardware change. Not sure if that has anything to do with the problem, which is: When attempting to download the disk image, the copy portion of the program loads (starting at 140000) but won't execute, halting at 140002. I discovered that I had the Halt switch set. If the Halt switch is NOT set, when execution is supposed to begin, instead the 11/23+ says "ERR 4 MMU ABORT" and also won't accept the incoming disk image data! Do I need to go back to the original boot ROM in order to use VTserver (i.e. is there some change made to ODT that is messing things up?) Also, does anyone have a paper tape version of the RL02 diagnostics for PDP-8? thanks Charles

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HP LIF floppy disks and bad sectors

by john_a_s2004＠hotmail.com

Glen & Christain, many thanks for the information, and the pointer to the 9895A service manual at http://www.hpmuseum.net/exhibit.php?hwdoc=262The manual also has this to say: p.37:Before reading or writing a sector of data, the controller must position the read /write head of the disc drive over the desired sector. To do this, the controller sends signals to the disc drive to step the head to the desired track. The controller then begins to read the disc. Track and sector information is stored as a preamble to each sector, and the disc is formatted in a manner to allow the controller to detect the beginning of a preamble. On finding a preamble, the Z80A first checks that the track number is correct. If not, it will continue to step the head until the correct track is found. p.43 has figure 2-3 Track Format. This shows each sector consists of (ignoring gaps):ID Field made up of:- Sync up Bytes- Address Mark (AM) [in other manuals refered to as IDAM]- ID Information (bytes indicating the logical track, head and sector address)- CRCData field made up of:- Sync up bytes- Address mark [in other manuals known as Data Address Mark or DAM]- Data- CRC p.45 Address MarksID AM : Data pattern = !70Defective Track AM : Data pattern = !F0 At the command set level, a clear D bit indicates an ID AM in the ID field, and a set D bit indicates a defective track AM in the ID field. p.86 Start of Appendix A, 9895A Disc Memory Command Set p.89 - has description of the D bit. p.95 Shows the Command Table. p.105 'Request Logical Address' Purpose: The 9895A returns bytes indicating the current target address. This command is used to determine the address of the offending sector after a data error has occurred. p.106 'Request Physical Address'.Purpose: The 9895A returns bytes indicating the physical cylinder on which the head actuator is positioned. This is useful for calculating the number of invisible tracks between the outer-most track and the current track. This is done by subtracting the physical cylinder address from the target cylinder address. P1.31 Describes the Initialize command, and P.133 the Format command. Together these sections describe use of the D but and invisible tracks. To conclude, information such as the IDAM content won't be readable by a PC with a normal FDC, so this approach looks limited. I am in touch with Ansgar reading his wonderful hpdir project, which I am using with my Series 80 disks on an 82901M drive, so will point him here for a bit more light reading ;-) Regards,John

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Nice Direct View Storage Tube Demonstration

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://computergraphicsmuseum.org/2013/01/30/nice-direct-view-storage-tube-…> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

13 years, 6 months

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wanted: German translation of magazine article

by LYNCHAJ＠YAHOO.COM

Hi! Is there any German speaking builder who would be willing to translate an article for a well-known European hobbyist electronics magazine? (You'll recognize the magazine but I'd rather not post that here for privacy concerns) One of the N8VEM builders, Oscar, has written a great article in English on the N8VEM project. We have interest from the magazine but of course they want the article in German. Would someone who is proficient in German please volunteer to help us out? Thank you very much in advance! I appreciate your support! Have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

13 years, 6 months

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Cheap Teletype rools by the case on eBay

by wmaddox＠pacbell.net

Item # 160965266758 >From the listing: Part # 21-370, 8-7/16" X 370' of 16# bond paper, 1" cardboard core, 12 rolls per case, 99 cases available $30 per case, quoted $20 shipping to my location in California No connected with the seller, other than ordering a few. --Bill

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do you need to tear the metal shutter off of a modern 3.5: floppy for it to work in an SMC-70?

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

this I was told. Anyone?

13 years, 6 months

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FAFNER is shut down

by fraveydank＠gmail.com

http://northtech.us/content/20130123/end-era-rip-fafner I only got to use it a few times, but it was nice to be able to connect to some real iron (I still have an account on the LCM's 11/785, I think). Service is continued on an Alpha DS20, but my username seems to be a bit broken at the moment. Many thanks to Dr. Ulmann for running such a majestic machine at considerable personal expense for all to use! - Dave

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wanted: German translation of magazine article

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Why not just put it in a web documwnt and let google do it? Most of it... ------------------------------ On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 3:55 PM PST Andrew Lynch wrote: >Hi! > > > >Is there any German speaking builder who would be willing to translate an >article for a well-known European hobbyist electronics magazine? (You'll >recognize the magazine but I'd rather not post that here for privacy >concerns) > > > >One of the N8VEM builders, Oscar, has written a great article in English on >the N8VEM project. We have interest from the magazine but of course they >want the article in German. > > > >Would someone who is proficient in German please volunteer to help us out? >Thank you very much in advance! I appreciate your support! > > > >Have a nice day! > > >Andrew Lynch >

13 years, 6 months

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Hazeltine 1510 or similar

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:28:30 -0500 From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> On 01/29/2013 11:13 PM, mc68010 wrote: > On 1/29/2013 7:36 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: >> On 01/29/2013 07:37 PM, mc68010 wrote: >>> A 1552 just showed up on the seller selling all Sellam's gear it just so >>> happens. >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extremely-Rare-Vintage-Hazeltine-1552-Computer-4DTD… >>> >> "This listing has been removed, or this item is not available." >> >> I can only hope that this means "good news" for Sellam. >> > Something probably got cut off. Probably on me. Anyway it is still there. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/230920559966 > > Item 230920559966 Crap. :-( -Dave ----- Reply: Guess it'd be better if it didn't sell and got scrapped, as long as those heinous thieves didn't make any money? Exactly what is gained by folks on this and a few other lists not bidding on these items as Sellam demanded, other than keeping prices low for everyone else (a good thing, for them) and increasing the likelihood that they don't sell and get scrapped instead (a bad thing IMO) ? He lost my sympathy when he threatened to sue anyone in this community (that has been so supportive over the years) if they bought any of his items. Ironically, in the extremely unlikely event that he got back the money made >from selling his stuff then the folks in this community would actually probably be the _most_ likely to be willing to sell it back to him... m

13 years, 6 months

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New Houses [Was: Re: What is big iron?]

by barythrin＠gmail.com

Very impressive Pontus! A raised floor garage.. Something we all can envy. Henk, did you send pics that I missed somewhere or was that your comment that they'll come when you can lift a camera again?

13 years, 6 months

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Looking for Appendix to HP 3.5" disc drive service manual (disc commands)

by john_a_s2004＠hotmail.com

Hi, In the discussion on HP LIF disks and bad sectors, I was pointed towards the 9895A service manual and its?description?of initializing floppies, marking 'bad tracks', and bad sectors. I have the 82901M 5.25" and 9121 3.5" drives, so have had a look in their service manuals for similar descriptions, in case there were any differences or further nuggets of information. The 82901 manual said very little on the topic, but the manual for the 9121 (covering several 3.5" drives) shows in the contents that Appendix A describes the command set. I had a look at the scanned version: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/hp/disc/09121-90030_3_Inch_Flexible_… and copied here: http://hpmuseum.net/exhibit.php?hwdoc=288 but Appendix A is missing, does anyone have a link or a scanned copy please? Regards, John

13 years, 6 months

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The VCFSE 1.0

by david＠classiccomputing.com

Everyone, We have finalized the show dates for the Vintage Computer Festival Southeast 1.0 and now it will be over two days - Saturday & Sunday, April 20 & 21, 2013. I will have a press release soon and we have some very nice things planned. I hope some of you can attend the show! Best, David Greelish - Computer Historian, Writer, Podcaster & Speaker - Founder of the Atlanta Historical Computing Society Producer of the Vintage Computer Festival Southeast 1.0 - 4/20 & 4/21, 2013 http://about.me/davidgreelish

13 years, 6 months

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Wiki? What? Why?

by RichA＠vulcan.com

From: John Wilson Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:12 PM > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:26:08AM -0500, Toby Thain wrote: >>> (Assuming you don't count the :INFO system at MIT, which came much >>> earlier.) >> Is it a wiki? > Editable by anyone ... cross-machine links (over the network file > system -- I think it was called MLDEV?) ... what else would it need? Wankers who remove edits by people who know what they're talking about? Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Vulcan, Inc. 505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900 Seattle, WA 98104 mailto:RichA at vulcan.com mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/

13 years, 6 months

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CRT monitor for SUN 3/140

by shutchman＠gmail.com

I have been through 3 CRT monitors that died ( circa 1989) that were attached to a SUN 3/140 station. The monitors are SUN Model M19P114 part no 365-1051-01. The pin out on the 3/140 is 1-VIDEO+ 2-GND 3-HSYNC 4-VSYNC 5-NC 6-VIDEO- 7 GND 8-GND 9-GND VIDEO+ and VIDEO- are ECL levels , and HSYNC and VSYNC are TTL levels. I believe it is EGA monochrome. I am not sure if this SUN has non standard ( proprietary) output for video. Is there anyone that knows a way to connect this SUN to a standard LCD VGA monitor using some kind of video converter or by using a multi-sync monitor ? Hutch

13 years, 6 months

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What is big iron?

by seefriek＠gmail.com

On 01/29/2013 02:23 AM, Pontus wrote: > Hmm, I though a VAX of 11/780 size qualified as big iron. If not, what > does? It's a trap! Trick question intended to see who can be the most insufferable ass furiously defending an opinion unsupportable by objective fact. The competition is, as always, tediously predictable. The game is re-staged here at least twice a year, so that the pendant pecking order can be reaffirmed.

13 years, 6 months

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Benchmark Modula-2 for Amiga, Avante-Garde Software

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Hi folks, Does anyone have a copy of Benchmark Modula-2 for the Amiga, released around 1986, they could let me have a copy of. I bought the software to help me with a second year University Programming and Algorithms course and wrote my final year project a 'Meta Assembler' in it and would love to get that working again. I still have the manual (I have no idea when the disks were lost but I suspect they succumed to mold) and am seriously considering scanning it for the community, but this seems a bit of a waste of time unless the software is not unobtainium. Many thanks for the help, Mark.

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What is big iron?

by RichA＠vulcan.com

From: microcode at zoho.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:22 AM > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:08:11AM -0500, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: >> In the former case the TOAD-1 is most definitely "big iron" as it is >> a descendant of the KL-10, which is most assuredly a mainframe. > DEC never made a mainframe and nobody from DEC ever asserted they did > AFAIK. It's odd to see posts claiming DEC made mainframes or that VAX > is big iron from a group where calling a DE9 a DB9 produces a > 500-thread post ;-) You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The PDP-6/PDP-10 family of 36-bit systems was clearly mainframe big iron, with a physical memory space larger and performance better than a 360/50. Further, in 1989, the VAX 9000 was introduced to the world as "Digital's First Mainframe" (at which the PDP-10 customers laughed derisively). > Stop the hysterical revisionism. DEC made minis. Minis are not big > iron. Agreed. DEC made minis, which are not big iron. The revisionism on your part is in claiming that DEC did not make mainframes. Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Vulcan, Inc. 505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900 Seattle, WA 98104 mailto:RichA at vulcan.com mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/

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Outbound Notebook battery

by derschjo＠gmail.com

Hi all -- Snagged an Outbound Notebook (Series 200) this week. The Outbound is aMacintosh clone laptop, mine came with ROMs borrowed from a Mac Plus, 4mb of RAM and a 50Mhz 68030 CPU. From what I've read it uses "standard camcorder batteries" but I have absolutely noidea what this "standard" might be. Anyone know anything about these beasts? I'm also going to need to track down an AC adapter but that should be easier to source, it's 22VDC @ .82A according to the rear of the machine... Thanks, Josh

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Hazeltine 1510 or similar

by Mark＠Misty.com

Hi, I've been regretting not keeping my original Hazeltine terminal many year ago. Does anyone have one, broken or working, they might be looking to sell or trade? Mark -- Mark G. Thomas (Mark at Misty.com)

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What is big iron?

by RichA＠vulcan.com

From: microcode at zoho.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:18 AM > Even the lowly 43XX (which was more powerful than the biggest VAX ever > made) was watercooled. Excuse me? I worked with 4341 and 4361 systems at UChicago, and a pair of 4381s at Stanford. There wasn't a water pipe to be seen. I think that you have no idea what you're talking about. Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Vulcan, Inc. 505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900 Seattle, WA 98104 mailto:RichA at vulcan.com mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/

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old terminal pics

by sales＠elecplus.com

https://picasaweb.google.com/106111250846948401252/OldTerminals If interested, email me and I will tell you if screen burned, if they power on, etc. Old kbd pics coming soon. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2639/6064 - Release Date: 01/28/13

13 years, 6 months

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HP LIF floppy disks and bad sectors

by john_a_s2004＠hotmail.com

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Fred wrote:> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, John S wrote:>> To conclude, information such as the IDAM content won't be readable by a >> PC with a normal FDC, so this approach looks limited. I am in touch with >> Ansgar reading his wonderful hpdir project, which I am using with my >> Series 80 disks on an 82901M drive, so will point him here for a bit >> more light reading ;-) > <Oversimplified> > PC WILL sense the IDAM. > In "normal" read/write, the PC works the same. It steps to the track, > finds a sector header, checks it, and if it is the one requested, > reads/writes. Many thanks Fred for correcting me and for the mini-tutorial. > The NEC chips even have a [little used] command to read sector header! OK, I'm sure there would be some mileage in tools that could use this feature. I guess not all PC FDC chips would have this capability though. (FWIW I am a fan of the Adaptec 1542 cards with their built in FDC, two types depending on model but both OK with FM disks). Coming back to LIF disks with bad tracks, as I wrote above I am a fan of HPdir, and am using a PC with an HPIB controller and 82901M floppy drive, so avoiding any use of the PC's FDC. I've got a further query on the 82901M and 9121 drive which I'll raise in a new thread. Regards,John

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hi

by jcw1231＠pacbell.net

this reminded me of you http://bit.ly/XFaSyp JC

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pdp11/34 rack mounting

by roe＠liveblockauctions.com

I've got a pdp11/34 in a BA-11L mounting box, and I'm trying to find out what rack hardware I need to rackmount the beast. If anyone has info (part numbers, etc), or can point me at a resource (or even a supplier), I would much appreciate it. Thanks. -- <http://www.liveblockauctions.com> Roe Peterson / Director of Research & Development O. 306.523.4005 / C. 306.501.6802 *Help Desk: 1.877.694.6100 / 306.694.6100* <http://www.liveblockauctions.com/index.php?p=FAQs>

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9 track, 1600 BPI, Tapes from 1992 / 1993 ??

by gerardcjat＠free.fr

A friend of mine has a serie of such tapes Six 9 track, 1600 Bpi, tapes, ( large ones : 2400 feet ) Labeled 1992 / 1993 SPOT2 Any guess what is / was "SPOT2" ???

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So what is this thing?

by derschjo＠gmail.com

eBay item# 230917408086. This is one of Sellam's lost items and it's interestingin that it appears to be an S-100 machine made by HP. The cabinet definitely looks like HP, the boards not so much, although a couple seem to have gold-plated traces that look HP-ish. I've never heard of this machine before, and I can find no information about it on the 'net. I'venever heard of HP making an S-100 machine, it seems out of character for them :). Anyone have any insights here? - Josh

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Vector art on SAGE

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 02:13 PM 1/27/2013, Paul Anderson wrote: >21st norad only had the hula girl while I was there. great article. >brings back a lot of memories. I asked the author Benj Edwards <editor at vintagecomputing.com> if anyone had a copy of the data - so far, no one said they had it. I thought it would be fun to recreate it from the original deck. - John

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Seeking old Televideo Gear

by slandon110＠gmail.com

Hey guys, Im seeking old televideo gear, Terminals, Systems stuff like t hat. Really digging this old televideo term I got Steve

13 years, 6 months

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cctech Digest, Vol 113, Issue 43

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> From: Terry Stewart <terry at webweavers.co.nz> > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:02:48 +1300 > Subject: My BBC Model B on Youtube > The best of British in my collection. The capable and classy BBC Model > B Microcomputer System. > http://youtu.be/r9oAAcRk2Ys The Rhode Island Computer Museum has a BBC Model B Issue 4 in the British Collection. http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/Home/foreign-market-personal-computers/bbc-… -- Michael Thompson

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HP LIF floppy disks and bad sectors

by john_a_s2004＠hotmail.com

Hi, I have been reading about LIF format floppies, in particular as used on the HP Series 80 and 200. I found this description: ftp://ftp.hpmuseum.org/lif/lifutil/lif_over.txt an overview on MoHPC: http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/articles.cgi?read=24 and the HPDir utility: http://www.hp9845.net/9845/projects/hpdir/index.html Can anyone explain please how bad sectors are marked as 'spare' under LIF? The LIF overview states: "LIFUTIL cannot recognize "spared tracks" on a LIF disk. To explain ... when you format a LIF disk, not all the tracks may be good; so the formatting process marks them as "bad" or "spared" and they are not used. LIFUTIL is incapable of distinguishing a spared track from any other; so it will suck in the spared track along with any other tracks in the file or directory, leading to corrupted files or catalog reads." What I can't find is a description of the bytes encoded on the disk to mark a track as spare. One possibility is this is dealt with by the HP disk controller firmware, and so hidden to the operating system, which sees a LIF directory as per the above descriptions, without seeing the spare tracks. I am trying to find some floppies with spare tracks and then analyse them on a PC, hopefully someone has been there already and can shed some light on the mechanism used. Regards, John

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Top Posting, was Re: What was that old Amiga programming language...?

by marvin＠west.net

It is normally better to top post when only one idea is going to put forth. Of course, with all us old guys with short memories ... And of course, it is easier to complain/comment about top posting than the constant posts unrelated to the subject line :). > On 23 January 2013 00:14, Dan Gahlinger<dgahling at hotmail.com> wrote: >> >Yes, lots of games and stuff were done in ARexx, sound and images, etc. >> > >> >and btw quoting vrx/sexton as a source automatically disqualifies you > > We normally don't top-quote on this list. > > I don't even know who or what vrx/sexton is; I merely gave the top hit > or 2 from Google. > > -- > Liam Proven ? Profile:http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile

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Retroarchive.org update...

by geneb＠deltasoft.com

More goodies for the Don Maslin archive - I'm up to and including the "cpmprog" directory so far. Also, some SLR tools were added. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

13 years, 6 months

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more shameless classic trafficking (NOT Sellam's stuff)

by gerardcjat＠free.fr

> > It's a real pity you won't ship to Canada. I'd take the 11/04, rx02s, > > and the tu-58. I've already got an 11/34a, this would make a great > > addition to my collection. > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:23 AM, Tom publix <ittybittybytes at gmail.com> wrote: > >> More cleaning and lowered price on some stuff that didn't sell last time >> around. >> >> As always, remind me that you are a list member and I'll add some >> freebies. >> >> Thanks to all on the list whose purchased from me. >> >> -tom >> >> tcp1022 >> >> AT&T 6300 Personal Computer 251219453567 >> DEC Pro 350 251219291641 >> DEC VAX4000/300 251219438856 >> DEC alpha PWS 500au 251219352958 >> DEC VAX 4000/VLC 251219392926 >> HP 9885 floppy drives 251219443307 >> AT&T 6300 251219453567 >> DEC TU-58 251219297427 >> SMS RXO1/RX02 floppy dr 251219332374 >> PDP 11/04 251219325467 >> ADM3A 251219433952 > HOW comes that theses items CANNOT EVEN be seen from abroad ?? >From France, to be specific. Is that normal / usual ??

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Iomega "autodetect" cable internals

by jules.richardson99＠gmail.com

Has anyone dissected one of the blue Iomega 25-way cables that are marked "AutoDetect" at the female connector end? I've got one in the junk pile and on a meter it checks out as though it's wired with a 1:1 pin mapping, but I assume the "AutoDetect" label means that it has some kind of smarts embedded into one end or the other (or both) which only work their magic under certain conditions. I'm on the hunt for a DB25 male connector and bit of multi-way cable so I can wire up a null modem cable for the QX-10 [1] - if it's all at the female end then that's good because I'd be lopping that end off anyway... [1] which has a DB25 female RS232 port, and of course the only gender-changers I have here are DE9s, no DB25's... :-) cheers Jules

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DEC documentation to give away

by p.gebhardt＠ymail.com

Hi folks, I have some duplicates (seven binders) regarding DEC's red/gray wall documentation: - MicroPower/Pascal-RT, Volume 2, Version 1 Language Guide: System User's Guide (red binder) Six gray binders (VMS 5.0): - System Management Volume 1B: Setup - Programming Volume 6A: File System - Programming Volume 3: System Routines - System Management Volume 2: ?Maintenance - Programming Volume 1: Introduction - Programming Volume 4A: System Services ? I give them away for free, you take care about shipping costs. Located in Germany. Contact me offline, if someone wants them. No need to take them as a bunch. Kind regards, Pierre ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pierre's collection of classic computers : http://classic-computing.dyndns.org/

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ADM-3A reminiscences - was Re: more shameless classic trafficking (NOT Sellam's stuff)

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 01:55:49PM -0500, Toby Thain wrote: > >Can you expand on why you hated them? Was that generic to glass ttys, > >or just this model? > > For me it was the lack of selective clearing -- so doing even basic > editing on an ADM3A (even just ^W to delete a word) over a 1200-baud modem > connection meant lots and lots of ASCII blanks. Annoyingly slow... > VT100s were *way* nicer, and even VT52s were a step up (at least they > had ESC K, and the arrow keys could be easily distinguished from control > chars, so ^H means one thing and left-arrow means another). > I had access to a bunch of VT100s, ADM5s and an occasional ADM3A. I also didn't like the ADM3A because of its screen clearing difficulties. However, I preferred using the ADM5s as I found them subjectively faster than the VT100s (even after making sure smooth scroll was disabled). I never did any objective testing but I put this down to the longer and more complex escape sequences used by the VT100, especially when connecting to something that did a lot of cursor positioning. As far as I recall, all would have been set to 4800 baud. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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My BBC Model B on Youtube

by terry＠webweavers.co.nz

The best of British in my collection. The capable and classy BBC Model B Microcomputer System. http://youtu.be/r9oAAcRk2Ys

13 years, 6 months

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Odd TTL chip

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

I have here an odd 7400 TTL chip - the prefix is TG. TG74S00J. Who was this? Who made TG74xx TTL? It looks somewhat like an old Sylvania ceramic DIP from the early 1970s. I have perhaps thought Transitron, but it is not. And there is no logo, other than a plain looking T. Ideas? -- Will

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more shameless classic trafficking (NOT Sellam's stuff)

by ittybittybytes＠gmail.com

More cleaning and lowered price on some stuff that didn't sell last time around. As always, remind me that you are a list member and I'll add some freebies. Thanks to all on the list whose purchased from me. -tom tcp1022 AT&T 6300 Personal Computer 251219453567 DEC Pro 350 251219291641 DEC VAX4000/300 251219438856 DEC alpha PWS 500au 251219352958 DEC VAX 4000/VLC 251219392926 HP 9885 floppy drives 251219443307 AT&T 6300 251219453567 DEC TU-58 251219297427 SMS RXO1/RX02 floppy dr 251219332374 PDP 11/04 251219325467 ADM3A 251219433952

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Top Posting, was Re: What was that

by barythrin＠gmail.com

A different issue is someone like me who replies via phone sometimes. This dingleberry phone doesn't allow me to edit original text, just delete it or include it. Sucks and I often wait to be at a real computer before replying. Still top posting intent is to not have to scroll through or past original contents. Perhaps its lazy or managerial thinking.

13 years, 7 months

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Manx: RSS feed fixed after server move

by legalize＠xmission.com

The move of the classiccmp.org servers to the new datacenter caused a temporary outage in the RSS feed of new documents on Manx. That error has been corrected and the RSS feed is working properly again. New Documents on Manx <http://manx.classiccmp.org/rss.php> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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More house cleaning. Kent Wa.

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 10:16 PM PST Jerry Wright wrote: > 1) SGI Onyx desk side Reality Engine 2 > > Has drives and loaded OS, Good condition > Missing front cover (skin), Has PS2 keyboard adapter > > 200.00 local pick up only > > (4) GRID 5 1/4 GPIB external floppies. Internal > power supply. came from the military. 12x13x2 in. > look new. can ship. 20.00 + shipping > > 1) Wang PC-002 old large style. has floppy, HD > and keyboard. No Monitor. Uses a Wang monitor only > Free, local pickup only > > NCR PC all-in one type no keyboard, 2 floppy system > Free, local pickup only. Heavy > > >- Jerry > >Jerry Wright >253-569-6041 >g-wright at att.net is the NCR color or mono, pc4 or decision mate?

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More house cleaning. Kent Wa.

by g-wright＠att.net

1) SGI Onyx desk side Reality Engine 2 Has drives and loaded OS, Good condition Missing front cover (skin), Has PS2 keyboard adapter 200.00 local pick up only (4) GRID 5 1/4 GPIB external floppies. Internal power supply. came from the military. 12x13x2 in. look new. can ship. 20.00 + shipping 1) Wang PC-002 old large style. has floppy, HD and keyboard. No Monitor. Uses a Wang monitor only Free, local pickup only NCR PC all-in one type no keyboard, 2 floppy system Free, local pickup only. Heavy - Jerry Jerry Wright 253-569-6041 g-wright at att.net

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What was that old Amiga programming language...?

by jplist2008＠kiwigeek.com

So back in the early '90s when I was a boy scout (which is not usually a good start to a story) we had a camp leader who had a couple of Amigas. I'm certain one was a 1200, but I'm not sure that's relevant. At any rate, he had a BASIC-like programming language that allowed very easy manipulation of images and sound and used it to construct games. The magic thing was that he would very easily steal tiles, sprites, sounds and music from _commercial_ games which he could then drop into this language and manipulate. Now, I'm remembering this from across the void of time, but I remember being really amazed that he could so easily pull a sprite from a game and then reuse it. Did I imagine this, or does someone know what I'm talking about here? Cheers; - JP

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Help with an IBM 3430 tape drive

by nigel.d.williams＠gmail.com

A good friend has a well preserved IBM 3430 tape drive, originally connected to an IMPI AS/400, and we are now hopeful that it could be reconnected to a slightly more modern AS/400, still IMPI and still SPD. This would give us a local 9-track tape capability: here are some pictures: https://picasaweb.google.com/118247290269860741639/IBM3430TapeDrive#5606377… What we are particularly interested to learn is whether we have the "master" tape drive, known as a A01 unit (that includes the controller electronics) or the tape-drive-only unit known as the B01 variant. We added a picture today (see very last picture) of the main controller electronics cage that shows several plug-in cards, is anyone familiar with these and can identify the variant by sight? we searched the entire machine looking for some designation that showed the model variant without success. So we assume it comes down to the controller cage, and we see empty slots so we wonder if it is the B01 variant.

13 years, 7 months

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USB trace analysis

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

On Jan 22, 2013 7:34 PM, "Al Kossow" <aek at bitsavers.org<http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>> wrote: > http://vusb-analyzer.sourceforge.net/ > Looks pretty cool for analyzing USB traffic. I've used it in conjunction with USBMON to sniff mostly working USB traffic (ironically running in Windows in VMWare on a linux box) to reverse engineer mostly-working protocols. I also used some perl scripts for trolling through the usbmon output dumps. Tim.

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Apple M0110 keyboard with cable

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

What kind of k/b is that. If I have one *maybe* Ill send it to him. My mum is Hrvatska. You have to ask him where he at for me though (town). ------------------------------ On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 12:07 PM PST Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote: >Anybody on this list have an Apple M0110 keyboard with cable, or just the >cable, that is close to Croatia? I have a fellow there that really wants >one, but the shipping is too high from the US. > > > >Cindy Croxton > > > > _____ > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2639/6049 - Release Date: 01/21/13 >

13 years, 7 months

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FS: Finisar FTLX8571D3BCL 10GBASE-SR/SW SFP+

by marcogb＠xs4all.nl

Anyone interested in a Finisar FTLX8571D3BCL 10GBASE-SR SFP+ (850 nm, MMF, LC) transceiver, for a suitable 10 gigabit ethernet NIC. Feel free to make me an offer. (The object is located in the Netherlands and I'm willing to ship internationally.) Here's a picture (not my picture, although I can make one), but mine is identical: <http://kleanritecleaners.com/images/ftlx8571d3bcl-i1.jpg> - MG

13 years, 7 months

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Wintertime Cleanout sale

by slandon110＠gmail.com

Clearing out to fund a down payment on a house Heres a listing of what I have A Bell & Howell Apple II, some broken keys, needs chips reseated. But will work with some love. $60 PowerMac 9600/300. The ultimate PowerPC powermac, $75.00 Compaq Portable I, with ASTSixPack ram card and carrying case, $50 dollars Macintosh SE/30 with keyboard and mouse 5MB RAM/80MB HDD $75 Motorola StarMax 3000/180 Macintosh Clone 32MB RAM/1.6GB HDD. Sony PVM-1340 Broadcast Color Monitor, Supports 15khz RGB input via BNC, Nice monitor $50 dollars. Works with pretty much anything, Composite input as well Apple IIGS Monitors $50 each shipped. Apple External SCSI CD-ROM Drives $35 each shipped. 50pin SCSI HDDs ranging from 40mb to 500MB $15 each shipped

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VCF East 9.0 postponed

by evan＠snarc.net

VCF East 9.0, scheduled for May 18-19 this year, is postponed to next year. That's because our venue sustained some Sandy-related damage. It's nothing unfixable (and no artifacts in our museum were harmed), but we are not certain about having the buildings repaired in time for the show. So, in spring 2014, we'll host VCF East 9.1. ;) However we will probably have a swap meet and/or other smaller events this year. Details TBD. In the meantime, there's VCF Southeast 1.0, VCF Europa, and VCF Midwest this year. (I don't know the details about Southwest or UK.) Sellam is still looking for someone * immensely qualified * to take over VCF West. The person MUST: 1. have proven experience and success in running a sizeable convention; 2. be extremely reliable; 3. understand modern marketing techniques; and 4. have substantial time to devote to the show. If anyone's interested and qualified, then feel free to contact me, and I can help you understand what's involved.

13 years, 7 months

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UFS filesystems

by jules.richardson99＠gmail.com

Does anyone know of a good [available online] UFS filesystem technical reference (which also covers cylinder grouping, i.e. not the original 'fs')? Google's not turning up much other than a couple of overviews that are really too high-level. cheers Jules

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FS, Hp 7970E (9 track tape) located in Kent WA.

by g-wright＠att.net

Very nice unit, last used in 2010 300.00 local pickup only. - Jerry Jerry Wright 253-569-6041 g-wright at att.net

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Targa, was Re: CAD/CAM boards from the dawn of time was Re: Looking for bits for Number nine pepper ISA 1987 video card

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

But the 1701/1702 accepts separate chroma and luminance portions of ntsc, right? I bet the Amiger don't put that out. I have a busted 1702, keeper, and a 1084s on ebay. If anyone needs it, bust a move. ------------------------------ On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 12:58 PM PST Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote: > >> Duh, thanks, I'd forgotten about the standard composite output on the >> RCA jack. I was thinking I needed to use the DB23 connector. Nevermind. > > You'd better use the db23, the amiga image deserves RGB quality. > > If you have a Syncmaster 510, 710, 910 or a LG M1721A, or M1921A LCDs, you can connect 15KHz RGB directly to the VGA input, and it works.

13 years, 7 months

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FW: lost emails on SCSI to IDE/SD converter project

by wwarthen＠gmail.com

Yeah, I am rebooting after changing the partition table and I am being careful to "zero" the device before trying to run fdisk. A "real" Seagate ST125N is working in the same test setup, so it is possible for it to work, but I have no good way to see the exact SCSI protocol exchange with the ST125N to see what the difference is. Thanks, Wayne ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" < cctalk at classiccmp.org> Cc: Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:01:21 -0500 Subject: Re: FW: lost emails on SCSI to IDE/SD converter project On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Andrew Lynch <LYNCHAJ at yahoo.com> wrote: >> The only anomaly I have observed is that DOS 6.22 FDISK reports "No space >> for DOS partition on drive" when I try to use it to create a primary >> partition. Is he rebooting after changing the partition table under DOS 6.22? It's a known thing. You can't create the partition and use it right away. DOS did change, so it's not surprising it "works the way you expect" under DOS 3.3. DOS was full of "well _this_ sucks! Why did they do that?" moments back in the day. You might be experiencing one now. -ethan

13 years, 7 months

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another in a series: somebody paid what for that?

by hilpert＠cs.ubc.ca

IBM 370/138 front panel : 4900$ The sad part is the original wiring has been gutted and a silly LCD screen&computer has been stuck in it. 321051214549 http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-System-370-Model-138-Mainframe-Operator- Control-Panel-1974-/321051214549?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch% 2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D321051214549%26_rdc% 3D1&nma=true&si=RgBCBl627pizsXRcJnGCtT2Mxe4% 253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_784wt_0

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by jwest＠classiccmp.org

test through new mx host

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Datasheets for SDA-5, other old part numbers?

by v.slyngstad＠frontier.com

Hi, I'm looking at the schematics for some old DEC boards, and I'm having some trouble locating datasheets for the old parts. I know, for instance, that the SDA-6 was a matched pair of transistors, and equivalent to the 2N2060. I can get a datasheet for the 2N2060 (nd pretend it's a datasheet for the SDA-6). But what about the other SDA-n? In particular, at the moment I am looking for a datasheet for the SDA-5. All I know so far is the pin-out, and that it was a matched pair of NPN transistors. (Oh yeah, and the DEC part number was 15-01857.) Similarly for diodes. I know a D662 is equivalent to a 1N945, but what the heck are the parameters for a D007? Any pointers to old data books or whatever would help. Thanks, Vince -- o< The ASCII Ribbon Campaign Against HTML Email!

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VMS 4 and 6 Documentation

by reiche＠ls-al.eu

Hi all, I was checking out all the documentation I had scored from Camiel and found that the space needed to store the VMS 4.0 and 6.0-6.2 documentation is more than it is worth to me. So it needs to go. Pickup in the Netherlands only. For pics; http://home.ls-al.eu:8000/log/index.html?id=2013012101 re, reiche

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Apple M0110 keyboard with cable

by sales＠elecplus.com

Anybody on this list have an Apple M0110 keyboard with cable, or just the cable, that is close to Croatia? I have a fellow there that really wants one, but the shipping is too high from the US. Cindy Croxton _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2639/6049 - Release Date: 01/21/13

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Fw: [N8VEM: 15431] Re: SCSI2IDE Progress

by lynchaj＠yahoo.com

Hi ? Another quick update on S2I project editted for privacy and brevity.? More progress yesterday and really great news.? Still developmental obviously but am actively looking for additional test cases to shake out the firmware.? Old PC/XTs with?SCSI controllers and the early Macs seem like the logical starting point but there could be others.? Unexpected bonus is some interaction with SCSI-2 but that's out of scope for the project.? If someone gets it working then that's great but not the primary objective. ? If you want to help with compatibility testing you'll need a serial terminal or PC running along side to capture the diagnostic message stream.? That maybe a useful feature in its own right being able to peer into previously hidden SCSI command interaction stream. ? Please contact me at LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM if you have more questions or want more information.? Better yet S2I is a discussion topic at N8VEM mailing list. ? Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch Subject: [N8VEM: 15431] Re: SCSI2IDE Progress To: n8vem at googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 21, 2013, 11:42 PM Hi Folks, Another quick progress report on SCSI2IDE. ?I got a decent amount of time to work on it this weekend and now have all basic functionality working. ?The firmware now reasonably emulates a SCSI 20MB hard disk. ?On both of my test environments, I am able to partition, format, read/write, and boot DOS 3.3. I am now at a point where I would like to solicit help with compatibility testing. ?I'm sure it will be a bit rough at first, but I need feedback on other platforms. ?Please refer to the Wiki folder:?http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/browse/#view=ViewFolder&param=SCSI%2…. ?You can download the firmware in the file S2I Firmware.zip. ?There is a page with more detailed information called S2I Status. ?It is easy to build the firmware and there is a pre-built ROM in there if you don't want to do a build. The one warning is that it is currently very slow. ?I have gobs of diagnostics being spit out to the serial port (necessary evil while we work through compatibility) and there are many code optimizations I have not yet bothered with. There is still a long way to go, but it is awesome to finally see this board doing what it was intended to. ?:-) Thanks,

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My HX-20 on YouTube

by terry＠webweavers.co.nz

As 1981 rolled around to 1982, how could you not get excited by the Epson HX-20?! http://youtu.be/q-Esopw_KK8 Terry (Tez)

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FW: lost emails on SCSI to IDE/SD converter project

by LYNCHAJ＠YAHOO.COM

Hi Below is an edited for privacy update on the S2I project. There is no over-stating the importance of today's developments. This is huge! I am sending this to you for a couple of reasons. First, we are getting close to needing some additional builders to build and test S2I on some other platforms for compatibility testing. In particular, I would like early Mac and early Amiga fans since I think both of those are rich areas for SCSI quirkiness. Also the early DEC might be good too but I don't know enough about them one way or the other. Second, we are reaching the end of the first batch of S2I prototype boards and will soon need the second prototype board. So far we've raised $130 of the $200 we'll need for the new PCBs. If you would please consider helping out with the second batch of boards I would appreciate it and it will benefit many in the vintage/classic/hobbyist/home brew community. More news as it becomes available. Please ask questions or contact me at LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 11:47 AM To: Andrew Lynch Subject: Re: lost emails on SCSI to IDE/SD converter project Hi Folks, Just another quick progress report. I managed to get a few hours of uninterrupted time yesterday and continued to have more success. Although the code is a complete disaster, I now have full read/write functionality. I am running the SCSI2IDE from my Xi 8088 with a Future Domain adapter that has a boot ROM. I am able to run DOS from the SDSI2IDE with no problems. Reading and writing data between the host and my CF card seems to be rock solid. I even ran an Adaptec utility that does a read/write test and it worked fine. At present, I am dumping a lot of diagnostics with every command including portions of data, so it is very slow. Additionally, I have not implemented the pseudo-dma mode. I am nowhere near working on performance -- that comes last. The only anomaly I have observed is that DOS 6.22 FDISK reports "No space for DOS partition on drive" when I try to use it to create a primary partition. However, I am completely successful if I use DOS 3.3 FDISK to create the partition, then use DOS 6.22 to format the partition and make it bootable. I see odd command requests from the host when trying to use DOS 6.22 FDISK to create the partition and suspect there is something about the ROM in my adapter that is problematic for newer versions of DOS. To be clear, the command requests are valid SCSI commands, it is just that they don't make sense given what FDISK is supposed to be doing. I will try to get the code straightened out enough to post an update on the Wiki in the next few days. We are very close to the point where it will be helpful to get others running this "alpha" code on a variety of different systems for compatibility testing. I'm hoping some of you folks can help with that. Thanks,

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CD-ROM drive "is offline. Mount verification in progress." (one more try)

by spectre＠floodgap.com

Reposting, since I got a 7.2 CD and other than a different version string, the same thing happens. What am I doing wrong? -- original message -- Okay, VAX heads. I got an external SCSI cable for my VAXstation 3100 M76 and connected it to my old Apple SCSI CD-ROM that boots pretty much anything in my collection (Apple, SGI, you name it). At the chevron prompt, >>> b/r5:10000000 dkb500: -DKB500 [...] OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version X7G7 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0 [...] PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM): 13-JAN-2013 16:14 [...] %SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER, DKB500: is offline. Mount verification in progress. It just sits there. So I tried it without the /r5 bit: >>> b dkb500: -DKB500 [...] OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version X7G7 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0 [...] PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM): 13-JAN-2013 16:20 Configuring devices . . . Available device: DKB500: device type SONY CD-ROM CDU-8 Available device: DKA0: device type RZ26 %BACKUP-I-IDENT, Stand-alone BACKUP V7.2; the date is 13-JAN-2013 16:21:06.64 $ So far so good. $ BACKUP/IMAGE/VERIFY DKB500:VMS073.B/SAVE_SET DKA0: %SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER, SABKUP$DKB500: is offline. Mount verification in progress. And sits there again. What am I doing wrong? (Don't say use another CD-ROM drive; this one works perfectly with every other computer I've used it with. And if it *is* the drive, why would it boot from it but not install from it?) -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- Helmet: But when will Now be Then?!?! Sandurz: Soon. -- "Spaceballs" -------

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migration pretty much complete

by JHMcCarthy＠aol.com

Jay: I think you have copied me in error. ----- Justin (Jud) McCarthy 251 SW 9th Ave Boca Raton, FL 33486 Home (561)391-1422 Cell: (561)504-7048 In a message dated 1/21/2013 10:30:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jwest at classiccmp.org writes: That's just freaking awesome :) The archives appear to be up as well. There seems to be an older period of time that is missing from the re-generated archives (1997 and thereabouts). They are there 'behind the scenes' but just not displaying in the web interface. Other years appear fine. I've yet to test the search function that AEK mentioned. Due to time-constraints I need to put those on the back burner for a bit and move on to migrating other client machines. Once that's done I'd appreciate a nudge to remind me to get back to that. If anyone notices any major issues, please let me know asap. And now... back to out regularly scheduled programming :) J On Jan 19, 2013, at 11:39 PM, jim davis wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Jay West > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:50 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: test > > > test through new mx host > working a-ok

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Apple Lisa

by sales＠elecplus.com

The Apple III is gone, but the Lisa is still here. Appears complete and in good condition, but does NOT power on. Keyboard is included. $125 takes it away, plus shipping. Since UPS killed the Z100 I shipped to California, I will pack VERY well in oversized box, so shipping will be a little higher because of the big box. Estimated shipping within the US on UPS ground is about $75, give or take. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6034 - Release Date: 01/15/13

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