On 05/01/2013 12:11, SPC wrote: I think there is enough info in the SH30-0237 to make some kind of start but there isn't a complete instruction set. If any one is interested I'll ry and scan it, but its going to take some time...

Whoops, this should have gone to Al directly. Sorry about that. Bob On 1/6/2013 11:22 AM, Bob Rosenbloom wrote:

On 01/30/2013 07:42 PM, mc68010 wrote: Non-+, non-E machines have been going for big bucks for awhile now. They dried up years ago. By contrast, you can't even give away a //e...I must have four of the darned things now, I turn them down all the time. I even have one brand new in the box! -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

On 1/30/2013 4:59 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: Sure $1k maybe but, $4k ? Closest I can find in completed auctions was $1,500 and it was for a much nicer II.

It's a revision zero, it's very rare. Low serial number too of course, but it is the board revision that is driving the price. This same machine sold a couple of weeks earlier for a little over $4700. For some reason it got re-listed. [sorry if this goes through twice -- sent from wrong address first.] On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:

What's special about that one is that it's a revision zero, it's actually very rare. Low serial number too of course, but it is the board revision that is driving the price. This same machine sold a couple of weeks earlier for a little over $4700, but for some reason it got re-listed. [sorry if this goes through thrice -- sent from wrong address, twice, first.] On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:

On 1/30/2013 6:00 PM, Al Kossow wrote: One of the things that is interesting to me about this whole Sellam/Tvrsales thing is how much the seller seems to know about the gear and how to list it. Obviously google is your friend but, they are listing so many items and they seem to have a general idea what they are selling. Much more so than many recyclers I have dealt with. Coming out of Stockton, Ca this is even more confusing to me. Seems like they must have someone that knows at least a little about vintage gear working with them on this.

As much as it pains me to say it, if Sellam is successful in any litigation he has an unassailable argument as to what the minimum value of the stuff is. The culprits won't have a leg to stand on. ++++++++++ Kevin Parker ++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of N0body H0me Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013 2:37 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: $4,000 for an Apple II ? All that means is, is that people who are good at being evil aren't stupid. They've got a major cash cow, and they're milking it for all she's got. Sellam hasn't a chance now, sorry to say. They're making too much money! ____________________________________________________________ FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more!

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, mc68010 wrote: Rev. 0 Apple ][s with low serial numbers are being sought after. Another unit went for > $5k the other week, but the buyer apparently reneged. If that was one of Sellam's, it's all the more ammunition for his legal action. I can accept that there may be cases where a landlord can auction items left on premises under a default, but I'm not aware of any situation where they are allowed to blindly profit from the action. Steve --

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013, Bert Thomas wrote: Something really smells bad about the whole thing, almost as if there's collusion between the landlord and the various recyclers. I really hope that Sellam gets some relief through the legal system, but if he's really in the middle of a big "good old boys" network that may be an uphill fight. --

On 2/1/13 5:55 PM, mc68010 wrote: <rant> To let people know.. I have been buying these, scanning them, and putting them on bitsavers and have had the same dick running them up to $20-$25 each time in the last second. If I DON'T do this, they will disappear in that black hole of the "mainframe collector" I don't know who this prick is, but I'm getting REALLY sick of this. </rant>

http://www.lastminute-auction.com/index.php?t=11 and the seller seemed to be saying sending them to the trash was next. Has anyone thought about maybe contacting him directly ? He does seem to want them to be saved more than anything else. I have purchased a lot of docs from this seller over the last year or so. I have inquired about bulk purchases, etc. but with no results. I try to save what I can, usually items without bids since I know Al is purchasing (I haven't bid on anything of his in a couple months, at least, so I'm not the one driving the prices up.) jht

On 2/1/2013 8:27 PM, Al Kossow wrote: Did you try sending him an email from the adress on the paypal transaction rather than an ebay message ? Sometimes people don't like to answer ebay messages about buying stuff outside of ebay and ebay has gotten draconian about filtering ebay messages now. All email address get filtered out of ebay messages now and the most innocent words will trigger ebay to refuse allow a message to be sent saying it may suggest a deal outside of ebay.

On 02/02/2013 04:38 AM, Al Kossow wrote: I sometimes see documentation on ebay that seem rare to me (such as internal DEC communication or drafts) and think "this is something for Al". In those cases, do you want a link? Regards, Pontus.