> '*' and '#' have no pulse analogues. However, in the states at least, the
> equivalent to dialing a dial access code preceded by a star or pound is
> generally achieved by rotary dialing '11' before the code (ie. *69 would
> be 1169).
Fortunately in the UK there are no requirements yet (afaik) for * and #
on the public networks. On the private exchange at work, 11=*, 12=#,
13=** and 14=##, at the beginnings of numbers only, but I don't know
whether it still works.
BTW, in the UK # is _never_ called "pound". "Hash" is the most usual
name, followed by "gate" and "hatch". "Pound" means a script L with a
couple of horizontal bars through it :-)
> As for trying to communicate with auto-attendants, you'll probably have to
> add external buttons to your rotary phone to give you the capability of
> dialing '*' and '#'.
That's what I was afraid of. Although a neater hack still would be a
modified dial that did 11 pulses for * and 12 for #. Mechanically
possible, but I wouldn't want to try and modify the old dial.
There is a blanked-off hole in most type 746 phones that can accommodate
1 or 2 buttons, and I was thinking of putting # and * there, but this is
more usually used for a "recall" button.
Incidentally, does anyone know why "timed break" recall buttons are
replacing local earth ones? And how long is the break?
> While a pulse-to-DTMF converter is a neat hack (and these sort of
> converters were installed in some step-by-step exchanges in the US, at
> least there were in my local exchange when we were step-by-step, but come
> to think of it I don't know why, unless they were converting my pulse
> dialed digits to DTMF so that some other adjunct piece of equipment such
> as a Dialed Number Recorder could know what digits I was dialing, for
> purposes of surveillance ;) it'd be easier to just buy a cheap DTMF phone.
Sam, you should be ashamed of yourself. The object of the exercise was
not to get a DTMF phone, but to get one with a _rotary dial_. I already
have a DTMF phone, and I am interested in thes project _purely_ for hack
value.
Slightly less far off topic, does anyone know the reason for the
divergence in layout between phone keypads and computer ones, i.e.
123 789
456 vs. 456 ?
789 123
0 0
Which came first?
Philip.
On Mon, 3 Aug 1998 03:42:40 -0400 (EDT), Ethan Dicks <erd(a)infinet.com>
wrote:
>>How about dosemu under Linux? It's complete enough that we used to load
>>NDIS drivers and emulate a PC well enough to log into the Novell network
>>at work and read e-mail, etc., from DOS. I do not know the state of
>>debugging tools for dosemu, but it's copylefted - you can add in all the
>>features your schedule permits.
Do you remember where in the source tree this is? I don't have Linux
installed, but I have the CD lying around here somewhere.
{snip}
>>comment on its current state. Your milage may vary, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Batteries not included...may explode if heated...contents may have
settled during shipping...keep away from open flame...may cause cancer in
mice...do not operate heavy machinery after using... :-)
Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com>
- ClubWin/CW7
- MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
- Preserver of "classic" computers
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Anyone care to be a good samaritan?
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:50:31 -0700
From: Lisa Galbreath <lisag(a)cnet.com>
To: listfoundation community <cnewmark-com-i(a)steam.ionix.net>
Reply-To: Lisa Galbreath <lisag(a)cnet.com>
Subject: (community) Digital Historian / Wizard Needed
Status: U
(community) My grandfather has 20 years of his life's work stored on a 1982
Pitney Bowes Word Processor 6000 and the whole thing has gone kaput. It
used those large double sided, double density diskettes (also copyright
1982). All I have is the reorder number on these diskettes: 169501. I need
to get the stuff on paper someohow so I can scan it all into the new PC I'm
getting him (unless it can be downloaded onto disk?). If you can tackle
this one, the machine is yours.
Lisa Galbreath, Corporate Services Manager
CNET: The Computer Network
150 Chestnut Street, San Francisco, CA 94111
(415) 395-7805 x1277 fax: (415) 623-2458
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Dreadlocks on white boys give me the willies.
I'm not saying it's not worth $200, just that I wouldn't pay that much
for one :)
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim [mailto:jim@calico.litterbox.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 1998 4:18 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: Apple IIgs Rom 0 Available?
>
>
> $200 for a fully loaded GS, with a monitor, a couple floppy
> drives, and what
> not isn't bad at all. Add a hard disk and it's a good deal.
> BTW, ROM Os are
> practically worthless however because they won't run GSOS
> 6.01. You can
> still buy the upgrade roms from alltech for 29 bucks. All
> money mentioned
> in this article is in US dollars. :)
> --
> Jim Strickland
> jim(a)calico.litterbox.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> Vote Meadocrat! Bill and Opus in 2000 - Who ELSE is there?
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
>
> >
> > Thanks to everyone that was helping solve our PDP-11 boot
> problems but
> > it seems that part of the problem was the fact that the
> backplane was
> > giving out (it actually went up in smoke on friday night
> while we were
>
> The backplane, or the power cable to it? I've never seen a backplane
> smoke - with a DEC PSU, even a dead short between +5V and
> Ground doesn't
> normally melt anything. What on earth were you doing with it?
>
It was the power supply. Being old, it decided to go boom.
> > PS: If anyone in the Massachusetts/New Hampshire area has a
> spare RX01
> > that they wouldn't mind parting with, we have alot of Q-Bus
> cards that
> > need a backplane :)
>
> An RX01 (unless I am very much mistaken) is a dual floppy drive. It
> doesn't contain a backplane, and you certainly can't plug q-bus cards
> into it. I don't see how this would help.
>
My bad. We have a real PDP 11/23 backplane and we're looking for an RX01
to boot it from. We have a whole ton of 8" disks and these are the only
disks we have with an OS.
Tony
> > Well, I think the guy is on crack but YMMV. As I would not pay
> > anywhere near that much for this system, someone else might so if you
> > are interested contact him directly, not me.
> > I do have the following:
> > * Apple IIgs Limited Edition (signed by Steve Wozinak) with
> > Authenticity certificate
>> If you were looking for donations, I am sorry, but for the moment, my
>> price is $6500 plus shipping (insured). If you are not interested,
>> please pass the word on.
USD 6500 - Maybe for an Apple 1 including box.
> I think this guy is on crack, ludes, hashish, pot, heroin, and any other
> drugs you might dream up. I've passed on systems like this priced at
> $200!
> Tony
200 ? thats a lot.
And: I know crack, pot, etc. but whats YMMV ?
Gruss
H.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
Hey Tony!
I readjusted the bus jumpers again, and checked all connections.....
> b ar()
Boot: ar(0,0,0)
Boot: ar(0,0,3)
then it booted!
Thanks, I'll tell you how I progress with SunOS installation!
Cheers
Karl
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Karl Maftoum
Computer Engineering student at the University of Canberra, Australia
Email: k.maftoum(a)student.canberra.edu.au
At 02:00 PM 7/19/98 -0400, Doug Spence wrote:
>
>Is this the same Microway that used to make Flicker Fixer boards for Amigas?
Yes. The FF was developed by an independent fellow named
Pete Selverstone, who had the hardware manufactured and sold
through Microway, who seemed to dabble in a number of esoteric
devices at the time.
- John
The other day I was mucking around in the room I store most (some,
according to my girlfriend 8^) of my collection, and all of a sudden one of
the shelves holding a bunch of Toshibas, collapsed. Luckily, I was there
and was able to keep them from crashing to the floor, but still...
Upon closer inspection, it looks like the shelf with (some of) the GRiD's
is about ready to go as well. These are those metal shelves you get at
Target for $8 on sale.
So, I guess my question is, how to others store their collection? Keep in
mind that I'm in San Francisco, and that Earthquakes are an issue. Thanks!
Oh, and latest finds: another Panasonic Senior Partner (I really need the
specs on these if ya got 'em!) and one of those HP ThinkJets which I'm
actually gonna hook up to my Dad's computer (as soon as I figure out where
all those printer cables I use to have are!)
Most interesting was a Cable Demodulator. Yep, not a MOdulator/DEModulator
(MODEM), but just a Demodulator. Apparently, TCI at one time sent out a
free signal on the cable that could be read by anyone with a PC and one of
these boxes. So, anyone know if they still do that, and what software one
would need?
I also picked up a Mobidem, sans cable, of course, which appears to be a
radio modem made by Ericsson. If anyone has any info on this....
Last but not least, a Datasonix Pereos tape drive. It's a little unit not
much bigger than a microcassette that is supposed to be able to back up a
GB on a single cartridge. Unfortunately, I got no tapes with it, and the
only source I've found so far (www.datasonix.com) is pretty pricey
considering I don't know if it works. Anyone know of a cheaper source for
these tapes?
Thanks!
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roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
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At 06:19 PM 7/31/98 -0700, Kai wrote:
>I just had to pass this on to the list.
>http://shell.rmi.net/~bslatner/humor/pournell.html
The parody mentions his kids - week before last, I bumped into
Alex Pournelle walking around in one of the computer history
exhibits (where one of my Teraks was on display) at the
ACM SIGGRAPH computer graphics convention in Orlando.
For many years while I was working as a freelance writer, I'd see
Jerry in person at press events at computer shows, and I knew many
of his assistants / toadies. Ugh. It was frightening what he was
given, and how little time he spent with it, and how little he
understood it.
Alex has certainly inherited or adopted many of his father's traits,
including the condescending dismissal and endless bumming of
software and hardware. He and another writer are working on
a WinNT "studio" book, and are gathering all the 3D and video
stuff they can find - but of course, many writers do all that.
Where does it all go? It depends. The more pricey the toy,
the less likely someone gets to keep it forever. Software
often has no value on this spectrum, and stays in the hands of
the reviewer, who might keep it or even resell it.
(I was once appalled by the brisk cash gathered by a "reviewer"
of books for a newsletter for librarians, who'd turn a bagful
of new books into cash each week at the nearest used book store,
after dismissing each with barely a paragraph "review".)
For someone of Poor-Nelly-ian magnitude, you've ultimately
got to *hire* someone to be in charge of returning and
donating all the stuff that arrives. Keep in mind, a great
deal arrives unsolicited.
I note that the parody was written by Ed DeJesus, an actual
editor at Byte, who oversaw my first and last Byte article (see
<http://www.byte.com/art/9507/sec8/art5.htm>.
I recently saw a summary of the mindset of the Pournellian branch
of science fiction as "Space is like Texas, only bigger."
- John