GoMemorable got back to me. They'll still scan for me to QT ProRes on
hard drive for 20 cents a foot for 8mm/Super 8 and 30 cents a foot for 16mm.
- John
While cleaning just now I found one of the metal and black plastic side
bezels for an 8813. If anyone needs one, let me know and I can send it to
you!
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Ben Sinclair
ben at bensinclair.com
Does anyone have an archive of classiccmp that goes back to the 90's? If
so, could I ask you to "hunt down" an old message of mine? I once wrote a
"reminiscence" of connecting to the ARPANET when I was a kid that I was
rather pleased with. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost it in a disk crash
(actually a couple of disks, primaries and backups).
Thanks,
Bill Sudbrink
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Folks,
I know someone in North Carolina (not on this list) who just found a small pile of IBM System/36 manuals in three ring binders. These are all already on Bitsavers, and these manuals are in pretty rough shape, but if anyone really really wants them, let me know and I'll pass on your contact information
5360 Vol A1 MIMS "Maintenance Information Manual - General Safety Guide (etc.)"
5360 Vol A2 MIMS "Maintenance Information Manual - CPU & Channel (etc.)"
5360 Vol A3 MIMS "Maintenance Information Manual - Work: Station (etc.)"
5360 Vol B2 MAPS "Maintenance Analysis Procedures"
5360 Vol C1 FLDS "Field Logic Diagram"
-Seth
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Seth Morabito
web at loomcom.com
> From: Jerry Weiss
> Typically execution of the RESET instruction in a user program is
> treated as a NOP
Yeah, that's not documented in most PDP-11 CPU manuals, either. It's one of
the things that makes the PDP-11 impossible to virtualize; only HALT and SPL
trap, IIRC. M[TF]P[ID] doesn't, I think, and neither does WAIT or RT[IT],
IIRC.
Noel
From: Paul Koning
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 12:19 PM
>> On Feb 26, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Doug Ingraham via cctalk
>> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>> wrote:
>> The purpose of an emulator is to accurately pretend to be the original
>> hardware. It doesn't matter that the original OS runs on a particular
>> emulator. If a program can be written that runs on the original hardware
>> but fails on the emulator then there is a flaw in that emulator.
> That's true. But it is unfortunately also true that creating a bug for bug
> accurate model of an existing machine is extremely hard.
This is true even in real hardware (or "real" hardware, if you prefer), whether
bug-for-bug or simply correct results for corner cases.
The XKL Toad-1 System was designed to be a superset clone of the KL-10 based
DECSYSTEM-2065 from Digital Equipment Corporation. It implements the full
30-bit extended addressing introduced with TOPS-20 v4, of which the KL-10
provided a 23-bit subset, and provides native support for 10Mbit Ethernet and
FASTWIDE differential SCSI2 (both state of the art in 1991 when the design was
frozen).
As a better DEC-20, the Toad-1 was a success. (We will leave aside the issue
of its market failure, which is irrelevant to the story.)
Fast forward 20 years, to Living Computer Museum, where a KI-10 based DEC-1070
was undergoing restoration. Diagnostics were needed, so the resident TOPS-20
programmer laid hands on the MAINDEC sources for the KI-10 and proceeded to
compile them all and generate paper tapes of the results. All went smashingly
well until the multiplication test.
The diagnostic source for this test uses a macro to build a set of test values
for X**2 where X is a power of 2. Internally, Macro-20 uses the IMULM
instruction to build the results. In the KA-10 manual, IMULx of 2**35 * 2**35
is supposed to store the high order part of the result into the 36 bit word
addressed by the instruction, and set the overflow bit.
On the Toad-1 (and on the Toad-2 prior to our discovery of this bug), a zero is
stored instead. Since we compiled the KI-10 diagnostics on the Toad-1, this
incorrect result was placed on the diagnostic paper tape, and the KI-10 seemed
to fail the diagnostic. Imagine our chagrin when days of trying to correct the
problem led to the conclusion that the diagnostic was incorrect.
Rich
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer
Living Computers: Museum + Labs
2245 1st Avenue S
Seattle, WA 98134
mailto:RichA at LivingComputers.orghttp://www.LivingComputers.org/
> From: Paul Koning
> RTI/RTT are used in the debugger, so they need to work in user mode.
> They refuse to raise your privilege level, though.
I understand that it has uses, but by specifying the 'failure' mode in User
mode (when the contents of the current or previous modes is not User) to be
'ignore', rather than 'trap', that's one more thing that makes the PDP-11
non-virtualizable. (This choice, to ignore, instead of trap, has the same
issue in other places where it's done that way, e.g. RESET.)
Noel