1 Mar
2018
1 Mar
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2:18 p.m.
Does anyone have an archive of classiccmp that goes back to the 90's? If
so, could I ask you to "hunt down" an old message of mine? I once wrote a
"reminiscence" of connecting to the ARPANET when I was a kid that I was
rather pleased with. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost it in a disk crash
(actually a couple of disks, primaries and backups).
Thanks,
Bill Sudbrink
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2:28 p.m.
On Mar 1, 2018, at 2:18 PM, William Sudbrink via
cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Does anyone have an archive of classiccmp that goes back to the 90's? If
so, could I ask you to "hunt down" an old message of mine? I once wrote a
"reminiscence" of connecting to the ARPANET when I was a kid that I was
rather pleased with. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost it in a disk crash
(actually a couple of disks, primaries and backups).
Thanks,
Bill Sudbrink
Any idea when, or any of the subject? I have most of the messages, except when Eudora
would ?eat? the box it was filtering messages to. I?ve moved to Mail.app, and now I can?t
find any old emails, and have a hard enough time finding messages from a couple months
ago.
Zane
2:49 p.m.
Does anyone have an archive of classiccmp that goes
back to the 90's?
If so, could I ask you to "hunt down" an old message of mine? I once
wrote a "reminiscence" of connecting to the ARPANET when I was a kid
that I was rather pleased with. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost
it in a disk crash (actually a couple of disks, primaries and
backups).
This one?
De
==============================================================================
That last exchange of messages has me reminiscing so (with a little
tongue in cheek)...
Procedure For Connecting To The 'net Circa 1978
(That's the ARPANET for all you young whipper-snappers. What we
called the internet before they let all of the riff-raff in.)
Initial notes:
Do not begin this procedure before 11PM. This avoids conflicts over
telephone usage with your parents. Net resources are generally not
available to "tourists" before this time anyway. Resource availability
is generally best on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights and holidays.
Keep an ear open for police sirens. Rumor has it that the FCC
will come and arrest you (and/or your parents) if it detects illegal
equipment attached to the telephone system. Another reason to operate
late at night, they probably aren't watching.
1) Move your computer from your bedroom to the kitchen table (that's
where the phone is!). Don't connect power to the modem yet, it
produces a carrier whenever it is powered and you need to be able
to hear the far end of the telephone connection when you first dial.
Also, you want it to be cool when you initiate the connection.
2) Take the handset off of the hook and replace it with the piece of
broomstick that you fashioned for that purpose.
3) Get a big towel from the linen closet. Fold it into quarters and
put the handset on it. Attach the speaker and microphone to the
handset with wide rubber bands. Fold the towel over the handset.
This will prevent various ambient sounds (like the sound of typing)
from introducing noise on the line.
4) Being sure that the cassette/modem switch (a DPDT switch that
connects the transmit and receive pins of the USART to either
the cassette interface or the modem) is in the cassette position,
load the terminal program. Run the program. You are greeted with
a blank screen (this is normal but you can't be 100% sure that it
loaded correctly until you have connected). Switch the cassette/modem
switch to modem. You may see a few garbage characters on the screen
(that's a good sign).
5) Get an ice cube from the freezer, put it in a sandwich bag and
put it on the towel next to the modem.
6) Remove the broom stick from the telephone hook and dial the NBS
(National Bureau of Standards) TIP (Terminal Interface Processor).
Listen for the call to be answered and for the carrier on the far end.
Sometimes the TIP is down and won't answer, sometimes it is down and
will answer but won't give a carrier. If it's down, wait an hour
and try again.
7) If you get a carrier, apply power to the modem. Start pressing
the @ (at) key once a second until it is echoed on your screen.
Listen for the chirp when you press the key. If you don't hear it,
the terminal program isn't running correctly, hang up, unpower the
modem, reset the computer and go back to step 4.
8) Once the @ character is echoed, press enter. You should get
an error message (I no longer remember the text). Now type "@O
77<return>". This instructs the TIP to connect you to the MIT-DM
(Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Dynamic Modeling) computer.
9) Start pressing the return key once a second until you get a logon
prompt (I no longer remember the prompt text). The user name and
password are GUEST.
10) Once logged on, wait for a minute or two, pressing enter every
ten seconds or so. This gives the operator a chance to notice you
and kick you off if the system is busy. If he's in a chatty mood,
you'll get a message like "The system's busy, get lost!". If not,
your connection will just die. If the system is busy, try again in
an hour or so.
11) I no longer remember how to start up Zork or some of the other
programs... anyone feel free to provide details I'm missing. Keep an
ear on the connection. If the carrier starts to change pitch, wipe
any condensation off the ice cube bag on the towel and then apply to
the smaller chip on the right on the modem board.
2:56 p.m.
Bingo! Thanks a lot!
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dennis
Boone via cctalk
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 5:50 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Old Classiccmp archive
Does anyone have an archive of classiccmp that goes
back to the 90's?
If so, could I ask you to "hunt down" an old message of mine? I once >
wrote a "reminiscence" of connecting to the ARPANET when I was a kid >
that
I was rather pleased with. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost > it in a
disk crash (actually a couple of disks, primaries and > backups).
This one?
De
============================================================================
==
That last exchange of messages has me reminiscing so (with a little tongue
in cheek)...
Procedure For Connecting To The 'net Circa 1978
(That's the ARPANET for all you young whipper-snappers. What we called the
internet before they let all of the riff-raff in.)
Initial notes:
Do not begin this procedure before 11PM. This avoids conflicts over
telephone usage with your parents. Net resources are generally not
available to "tourists" before this time anyway. Resource availability is
generally best on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights and holidays.
Keep an ear open for police sirens. Rumor has it that the FCC will come and
arrest you (and/or your parents) if it detects illegal equipment attached to
the telephone system. Another reason to operate late at night, they
probably aren't watching.
1) Move your computer from your bedroom to the kitchen table (that's where
the phone is!). Don't connect power to the modem yet, it produces a carrier
whenever it is powered and you need to be able to hear the far end of the
telephone connection when you first dial.
Also, you want it to be cool when you initiate the connection.
2) Take the handset off of the hook and replace it with the piece of
broomstick that you fashioned for that purpose.
3) Get a big towel from the linen closet. Fold it into quarters and put the
handset on it. Attach the speaker and microphone to the handset with wide
rubber bands. Fold the towel over the handset.
This will prevent various ambient sounds (like the sound of typing) from
introducing noise on the line.
4) Being sure that the cassette/modem switch (a DPDT switch that connects
the transmit and receive pins of the USART to either the cassette interface
or the modem) is in the cassette position, load the terminal program. Run
the program. You are greeted with a blank screen (this is normal but you
can't be 100% sure that it loaded correctly until you have connected).
Switch the cassette/modem switch to modem. You may see a few garbage
characters on the screen (that's a good sign).
5) Get an ice cube from the freezer, put it in a sandwich bag and put it on
the towel next to the modem.
6) Remove the broom stick from the telephone hook and dial the NBS (National
Bureau of Standards) TIP (Terminal Interface Processor).
Listen for the call to be answered and for the carrier on the far end.
Sometimes the TIP is down and won't answer, sometimes it is down and will
answer but won't give a carrier. If it's down, wait an hour and try again.
7) If you get a carrier, apply power to the modem. Start pressing the @
(at) key once a second until it is echoed on your screen.
Listen for the chirp when you press the key. If you don't hear it, the
terminal program isn't running correctly, hang up, unpower the modem, reset
the computer and go back to step 4.
8) Once the @ character is echoed, press enter. You should get an error
message (I no longer remember the text). Now type "@O 77<return>". This
instructs the TIP to connect you to the MIT-DM (Massachusetts Institute of
Technology, Dynamic Modeling) computer.
9) Start pressing the return key once a second until you get a logon prompt
(I no longer remember the prompt text). The user name and password are
GUEST.
10) Once logged on, wait for a minute or two, pressing enter every ten
seconds or so. This gives the operator a chance to notice you and kick you
off if the system is busy. If he's in a chatty mood, you'll get a message
like "The system's busy, get lost!". If not, your connection will just
die.
If the system is busy, try again in an hour or so.
11) I no longer remember how to start up Zork or some of the other
programs... anyone feel free to provide details I'm missing. Keep an ear on
the connection. If the carrier starts to change pitch, wipe any
condensation off the ice cube bag on the towel and then apply to the smaller
chip on the right on the modem board.
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5:04 p.m.
From: Dennis Boone via cctalk
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 2:50 PM
> Does anyone have an archive of classiccmp that
goes back to the 90's?
> If so, could I ask you to "hunt down" an old message of mine? I once
> wrote a "reminiscence" of connecting to the ARPANET when I was a kid
> that I was rather pleased with. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost
> it in a disk crash (actually a couple of disks, primaries and
> backups).
This one?
It would be amusing to see the headers from the message, too.
Rich
8:34 p.m.
On Mar 1, 2018, at 2:18 PM, William Sudbrink via cctech wrote:
Does anyone have an archive of classiccmp that goes
back to the 90's? If
so, could I ask you to "hunt down" an old message of mine? I once wrote a
"reminiscence" of connecting to the ARPANET when I was a kid that I was
rather pleased with. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost it in a disk crash
(actually a couple of disks, primaries and backups).
Yep.
====begin
That last exchange of messages has me reminiscing so
(with a little tongue in cheek)...
Procedure For Connecting To The 'net Circa 1978
(That's the ARPANET for all you young whipper-snappers.
What we called the internet before they let all of the
riff-raff in.)
Initial notes:
Do not begin this procedure before 11PM. This avoids
conflicts over telephone usage with your parents. Net
resources are generally not available to "tourists" before
this time anyway. Resource availability is generally best
on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights and holidays.
Keep an ear open for police sirens. Rumor has it that the
FCC will come and arrest you (and/or your parents) if it
detects illegal equipment attached to the telephone system.
Another reason to operate late at night, they probably aren't
watching.
1) Move your computer from your bedroom to the kitchen
table (that's where the phone is!). Don't connect power
to the modem yet, it produces a carrier whenever it is
powered and you need to be able to hear the far end of
the telephone connection when you first dial. Also, you
want it to be cool when you initiate the connection.
2) Take the handset off of the hook and replace it with the
piece of broomstick that you fashioned for that purpose.
3) Get a big towel from the linen closet. Fold it into
quarters and put the handset on it. Attach the speaker
and microphone to the handset with wide rubber bands.
Fold the towel over the handset. This will prevent
various ambient sounds (like the sound of typing) from
introducing noise on the line.
4) Being sure that the cassette/modem switch (a DPDT switch
that connects the transmit and receive pins of the USART
to either the cassette interface or the modem) is in the
cassette position, load the terminal program. Run the
program. You are greeted with a blank screen (this is
normal but you can't be 100% sure that it loaded correctly
until you have connected). Switch the cassette/modem switch
to modem. You may see a few garbage characters on the
screen (that's a good sign).
5) Get an ice cube from the freezer, put it in a sandwich bag
and put it on the towel next to the modem.
6) Remove the broom stick from the telephone hook and dial the
NBS (National Bureau of Standards) TIP (Terminal Interface
Processor). Listen for the call to be answered and for the
carrier on the far end. Sometimes the TIP is down and won't
answer, sometimes it is down and will answer but won't give
a carrier. If it's down, wait an hour and try again.
7) If you get a carrier, apply power to the modem. Start
pressing the @ (at) key once a second until it is echoed
on your screen. Listen for the chirp when you press the
key. If you don't hear it, the terminal program isn't running
correctly, hang up, unpower the modem, reset the computer and
go back to step 4.
8) Once the @ character is echoed, press enter. You should get
an error message (I no longer remember the text). Now type
"@O 77<return>". This instructs the TIP to connect you to the
MIT-DM (Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Dynamic Modeling)
computer.
9) Start pressing the return key once a second until you get a
logon prompt (I no longer remember the prompt text). The user
name and password are GUEST.
10) Once logged on, wait for a minute or two, pressing enter every
ten seconds or so. This gives the operator a chance to notice
you and kick you off if the system is busy. If he's in a chatty
mood, you'll get a message like "The system's busy, get lost!".
If not, your connection will just die. If the system is busy,
try again in an hour or so.
11) I no longer remember how to start up Zork or some of the other
programs... anyone feel free to provide details I'm missing.
Keep an ear on the connection. If the carrier starts to change
pitch, wipe any condensation off the ice cube bag on the towel
and then apply to the smaller chip on the right on the modem
board.
--
until further notice
2 Mar
2 Mar
8:35 a.m.
On 03/01/2018 10:34 PM, r.stricklin via cctalk wrote:
8) Once the @ character is echoed, press enter. You should get
an error message (I no longer remember the text). Now type
"@O 77<return>". This instructs the TIP to connect you to the
MIT-DM (Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Dynamic Modeling)
computer.
9) Start pressing the return key once a second until you get a
logon prompt (I no longer remember the prompt text). The user
name and password are GUEST.
Ahh, the good old days when nobody worried about security!
Jon
11:41 a.m.
Livin' in a small town...
Nobody locks their door at night...
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jon Elson
via cctalk
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 11:35 AM
To: r.stricklin; General at ezwind.net; Discussion at ezwind.net:On-Topic and
Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Old Classiccmp archive
On 03/01/2018 10:34 PM, r.stricklin via cctalk wrote:
8) Once the @ character is echoed, press enter. You should get
an error message (I no longer remember the text). Now type
"@O 77<return>". This instructs the TIP to connect you to the
MIT-DM (Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Dynamic Modeling)
computer.
9) Start pressing the return key once a second until you get a
logon prompt (I no longer remember the prompt text). The user
name and password are GUEST.
Ahh, the good old days when nobody worried about security!
Jon
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