After over a decade of keeping eyes peeled, I found a Commodore PET 4016 at
a yard sale yesterday (it actually wasn't in the sale, but there was some
old phone stuff there, and when I see anything like that I always ask the
owner if they happen to have any vintage computer stuff hiding away).
The case is pretty battered, and it was disgusting and reeked of rodent
urine, but after cleaning it and going over things it (incredibly) actually
works.
I am, however, missing a right shift keycap. Does anyone happen to have a
junker (perhaps one that's already missing keys) and so would be willing to
sell me one? It's identical to the left-side, and I think is shared with
the 4032 models. Cosmetically the machine's never going to be perfect (at
least not without some careful gluing on a couple of cracks and a full
repaint), but a complete keyboard would improve things considerably!
thanks
Jules
Have been going through my shop and storage room trying to see what
can get rid of and wasn't aware of how much old electronics and
computers have accumulated over last 50 years. Should note that this
process has been at insistance of my wife as a lot of these boxes
just got moved whenever I moved and much of this stuff haven't looked
at for decades.
Was about to toss a 1987 box containing DOS 3.3 but then figured
someone might want it. Have a couple of XT systems kicking around
somewhere but in 1987 I'd discovered the Mac and considered 68000
processor a far superior architecture as it was an easy transition
>from someone who'd spent most of their time programming on a
PDP-11. Also have early Mac software, hundreds of 3.5" disks which
are primarily taking up space and all of them have been copied to
HDD's and now run my Mac code under Basilisk2 was faster than it used
to run on my MacIIvx (of which I have a couple).
Also managed to find, in no particular order, a couple of C64's, a
TI99, ZX81, VIC20 and an 8" floppy drive with full documentation that
I faintly recall buying at a surplus electronics place in
Seattle. Also found a box of old Univac cards which appear to be DTL
with individual transistors and then go on to having DTL IC's as well
as some old IBM cards. Used to pull transistors and diodes off these
to build my own circuits 50 years ago. Now, with storage being so
ridiculously cheap haven't even come close to making a dent in the
capacity of a 256 Gb SD card in my Samsung S8 handheld supercomputer
of which I'm using the camera function to create high res images of
what I'm going through.
Also have lots of PC motherboards starting with XT's and progressing
upwards. Never liked 80286 and so only collected from 80386 and
higher. Seem to have lots of various parallel port adapters, disk
interfaces as well as parallel and serial port boards. Was planning
on using these as dedicated processors for data acquisition but found
that technology progressed faster than my getting around to use them
and it's a lot simpler to either use Phidget's SBC with various
sensors for environmental monitoring or a much less power hungry
Parallax Propellar chip for more demanding data acquisition
applications. (Haven't let my wife know how many of newer systems I
have stashed away but they take up way less room than old hardware).
Do also have a couple of PDP 11/23 systems which I'll probably have
to part with as I haven't used then in last 15 years. Also have a
number of unibus boards which haven't run into yet but won't be using
them. Lots of old computer books as well which would be nice to keep
but likely have most of documentation in digital form and usually
back up all important pdf files to separate drives.
The PC stuff is most voluminous and, if there's any interest, can
post images of what I have on my web site. Only components I've
tested are disk drives of which most work but SCSI drives are all old
and a number of them didn't take kindly to be powered off after
running for years and being moved from Vancouver to Kamloops.
Boris Gimbarzevsky
A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in case
anyone is interested:
https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga
Approximately 100 USD each.
They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time
without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate?
/Mattis
I?m interested!!! Would you be able to take them to a UPS store ( or the like ) and I?ll call them to pay for shipping.
Possible??
Earl
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:04:29 -0700
> From: Rico Pajarola <rp at servium.ch>
> To: Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon at hotmail.com>, "General
> Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: OpenVMS Community License
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> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 8:06 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
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>>> One could make a case that the
>>> wording of the license is imprecise enough
>>
>> The wording is only imprecise to those who do not wish to follow it.
>> It is, by far, the cleanest and plainest written Hobbyist License I
>> have ever seen.
>
> IANAL, but I'm married to one... just pointing out that "clear language"
> does not mean the same thing to lawyers as it does to us engineers.
> "software owned by Digital Equipment Corporation" is pretty vague as far as
> lawyer-speak goes. The license does not seem to specifically include or
> exclude alternative scenarios. Anyone, especially a non-lawyer who was not
> involved with the drafting of the license, and says "obviously that must
> mean X" is just making stuff up (it doesn't matter what X is. Notice that
> I'm not saying it means you can use it under this license. I don't know,
> and IANAL). It's like undefined behaviour in C. You can make an educated
> guess (given additional information you have, such as history,
> correspondence with Mentec about the topic etc.), and you might be right,
> but the only way to find out for sure is to run the compiler and look at
> the disassembly, i.e. force a clarification from Mentec.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 00:03:19 -0700
> From: "r.stricklin" <bear at typewritten.org>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Tallgrass PC hardfile driver/utility software
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> Folks;
>
> I see (and am grateful for) the disk images for the Tallgrass PC Hardfile/Tape unit (TG 3000/3100 series, such as my TG-3020) that have been archived on minuszerodegrees.com. This represents version 4.xx of the utilties, for use with PC-DOS 2.x.
>
> I was hoping to use this device on a 5150 PC with PC-DOS 1.1 and CP/M-86. This requires an older version (3.xx) of the DOS software, and one for CP/M-86 1.00 (also Tallgrass software version 3.xx? but a separate disk, I should imagine).
>
> If anybody happens to have a copy of either of these and don't mind sharing it, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
>
>
> ok
> bear.
>
> --
> until further notice
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 14:55:50 +0200
> From: Mattis Lind <mattislind at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: SUN VME - seller in Sweden.
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> A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in case
> anyone is interested:
>
> https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga
>
> Approximately 100 USD each.
>
> They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time
> without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate?
>
> /Mattis
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 11:47:50 -0400
> From: Chris Zach <cz at alembic.crystel.com>
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: SUN VME - Have em in US....
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> I have about 15 boards that look like they came from Sun 3/xxx series
> systems. Mostly SCSI controller boards things that might be clocks, and
> memory boards. About 3 Sun 3/xxx CPUs as well (later ones, 68020)
>
> Anyone need them? Let me know, pickup from MD preferred.
>
> CZ
>
> On 8/1/2020 8:55 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote:
>> A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in case
>> anyone is interested:
>>
>> https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga
>>
>> Approximately 100 USD each.
>>
>> They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time
>> without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate?
>>
>> /Mattis
>>
>
>
> End of cctalk Digest, Vol 71, Issue 1
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Folks;
I see (and am grateful for) the disk images for the Tallgrass PC Hardfile/Tape unit (TG 3000/3100 series, such as my TG-3020) that have been archived on minuszerodegrees.com. This represents version 4.xx of the utilties, for use with PC-DOS 2.x.
I was hoping to use this device on a 5150 PC with PC-DOS 1.1 and CP/M-86. This requires an older version (3.xx) of the DOS software, and one for CP/M-86 1.00 (also Tallgrass software version 3.xx? but a separate disk, I should imagine).
If anybody happens to have a copy of either of these and don't mind sharing it, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
ok
bear.
--
until further notice
I'd like to know what to call this portable teletype 33.
I have not yet found any ID tag. I'd love to see some original literature.
Have not yet found another on the internets.
The hard-shell lid is removable and has a nice compartment to hold
the DA-15 to DB-25 serial cable and the AC power cable.
I uploaded pics at https://imgur.com/a/zAHchbb .
It has some issues. Typing JOHN FOUST gives HMHL DMEAD and line feed doesn't.
- John
The following four monitors are available free for pickup in the UK
(OX17 postcode).
All appear clean but are untested. All are believed to have been
functional when stored but that was ~2002/2003-ish.
Microvitec Cub. Seems to be in its original box.
DEC VRT19-D3.
Vision Master Pro 17.
DEC VRC21-W3.
Obviously with the current restrictions on movement these cannot be
picked up, but they need to be gone soon after the restrictions are over.
Expressions of interest offlist please.
Antonio
--
Antonio Carlini
antonio at acarlini.com
On 7/30/20 10:59 AM, Craig Ruff via cctech wrote:
> FYI: XX2247, LLC is now listed with a "delinquent" status by the Colorado Secretary of State's office due to a failure to file required reports back in 2018.
>
That is not good. I hope Dave is OK.
He lost his house in the big Colorado fires years ago
and I haven't talked to him in years.
I wonder if Johnny has heard anything from him.
>Message: 32
>Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:35:05 -0400
>From: Bill Degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
>
>Robert,
>
>It might very well be that the ROMs are fixed to their drive assignment on
>the Attache. That's why assign.com is not present. You can check this
>version:
>https://vetusware.com/download/MS-DOS%202.11%20for%20Otrona%20Attache%202.1…
>
>...to see if you're copy is missing assign.com for some reason.
>
>Bill
>
>On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:15 PM Robert Feldman via cctalk <
>cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to copy files off my Otrona Attache 8:16 using FastLynx 3.3,
> >but I keep getting an error 708 when trying to push SL.EXE to the Otrona
> >over the serial port. I am wondering if the reason for the error is that
> >the Otrona does not have a C: drive. Therefore, I would like to try to use
> >Assign.com to assign C: to A:, but the Attache version of MS-DOS 2.11 does
> >not include Assign.com. Does anyone have a copy of the MS-DOS 2.11 version
> >of Assign.com they can send me?
>>
> >Thanks,
> >Robert Feldman
>
I already have the Otrona MS-DOS 2.11 disks from Don Maslin's archive, but (as I forgot to mention), I do not have a modern computer with a 360KB floppy drive. I have an old Dell Precision T3400, but its BIOS will only allow 1.2MB 5.25 floppies.
The version from the Maslin Archive and both my original Otrona MS-DOS 2.11d disks (from 1983) and the MS-DOS-2.11 2.11e disks that I downloaded from FAUG after Otrona went out of business do not include Assign or Subst. However, the 2.11e disk includes support for a hard drive, so I believe that it can handle a C: drive.
I received a copy of Assign from MS-DOS 2.1 from another list member, so I have asked him if he can copy it to a floppy that I can send him.
Bob
