I just discovered some *VERY* interesting S100 boards that I didn't
realize I had in my box 'o S-100 boards. They seem to be some kind of
Atari development/prototyping system. The boards are:
65xx Emulator, part no. 100-015-2, (c) 1983 Atari [this is the PCB only]
Trace Memory Interface, part no, 100-003-2, (c) 1983 Atari
6502 Processor, part no. 100-003-2, has a 6502 and some other stuff, such
as a clock speed DIP switch (1, 2, 4 MHZ settings), some RAM, a couple
ribbon cable connectors. I have 2 of these boards but one is incomplete
(does not have all the chips the other one does).
All have the Atari name and logo and a copyright date of 1983.
Also have these:
the Encryptor, Jones Futura Corporation, Model ENC 100-1
California Computer Systems, Model 2832 [has this big, black 3"x3" square
and 3/8" thick block of resin on it, have no idea what it's hiding]
Any idea what this stuff is?
Sam
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Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass
I have,
BASIC
Lotus 1-2-3, {but can't get to work}
Mouser
MineShaft
I'd like to have anything you can find.
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> From: thedm <thedm(a)sunflower.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: PCjr Cartridges?
> Date: Thursday, June 26, 1997 9:08 PM
>
> Im interested in the PCjr carts. I have the basic one, but I can post a
> list of what I have.
>
> ----------
> > From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn(a)crl.com>
> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> > Subject: PCjr Cartridges?
> > Date: Thursday, June 26, 1997 8:27 PM
> >
> > Saw today a few cartridges which I'm guessing are PCjr carts. They
said
> > (among other things) "Cartridge BASIC". Anyone interested in them?
They
> > were (I think) a buck.
> >
> > They also had some misc Apple II cards (about $5 each, I think), some
> Atari
> > 800 ROM's (or RAM? I didn't look that closely). Lemme know if there's
> any
> > interest.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
> > sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen
know."
> > Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
> > San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
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> ???o?l : Ward Griffiths and/or Lisa Rogers <gram(a)cnct.com>
> ???? : Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> ???? : RE: which month?
> ???M???? : 1997?N6??28?? 23:57
>
> On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Cord Coslor wrote:
>
> > What was the name of that book? Wasn't it something about a mouse?
Like,
> > To Catch a Mouse, Make a Noise Like A Cheese?
> >
> > On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Matt Pritchard wrote:
> >
> > > I have a book about marketing, written by a Tandy VP which has a
large
> > > chapter on the birh of the TRS-80. He mentioned the day of the first
> > > produced unit, (sept 15th I think) and game totals for the first
months
> > > or two (It seemed they only managed 3 computer a day for the first
week
> > > or two).
>
> _To Catch a Mouse, Make a Noise Like a Cheese_ was indeed the title, by
> Lou Kornfeld, president of Radio Shack and originator of the "Flyer-Side
> Chat" column that was a regular feature in Radio Shack retail flyers for
> so many years. He was managing one of the (8 or 9) original Radio Shack
> stores in Boston when Charles Tandy bought the company in about 1964 (and
> proceeded to expand the chain by three orders of magnitude). I forget if
> the book was released before or after he retired.
> --
> Ward Griffiths
> "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within
> the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." --Claire Wolfe
I have a book about marketing, written by a Tandy VP which has a large
chapter on the birh of the TRS-80. He mentioned the day of the first
produced unit, (sept 15th I think) and game totals for the first months
or two (It seemed they only managed 3 computer a day for the first week
or two).
-Mp
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bwit(a)pobox.com [SMTP:bwit@pobox.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 1997 11:51 AM
> To: 'classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu'
> Subject: RE: which month?
>
>
> IIRC the TRS-80 was introduced in September 1977.
>
> ----------
> From: e.tedeschi
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 1997 7:39 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: which month?
>
> I wonder if anybody here has the *exact* months of introduction
> of the
> three first *real* home computers introduced in 1977:
>
> a) the Apple II
> b) the Tandy TRS-80
> c) the Commodore Pet
>
> I need them for a book on collecting home computers I am
> researching
> for.
>
> Thank you
>
> enrico
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>
In message <Pine.SUN.3.91.970628111459.3115L-100000(a)crl4.crl.com> classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu writes:
> Also have these:
>
> the Encryptor, Jones Futura Corporation, Model ENC 100-1
> California Computer Systems, Model 2832 [has this big, black 3"x3" square
> and 3/8" thick block of resin on it, have no idea what it's hiding]
I think this is what it says it is - a data encyption/decryption system.
I have a thing called a 'modem maximiser' (a serial port data buffer box with
a real time clock, parallel printer port, etc) that has an optional
encryption unit. It too was a potted module. As I had a few spare modules I cut
one apart and found it contained an 8032 (I think) microcontroller, RAM, a ROM
(I must desolder that and examine it) and a TTL latch. Pretty much what you'd
expect - a little microcontroller that reads in data, encrypts it, and sends
it out again.
>
> Any idea what this stuff is?
>
>
> Sam
-tony
Sam:
> 1. Record format: open (depending on software for EPROM programmer);
S-records, Intel Hex, binary.
>> I'm no expert at this so I'll defer.
The various hex records are ASCII representations, so I figured that they can
be transferred with no problem by e-mail. If we're doing ftp, it doesn't
matter
> 2. Submission & storage: UUEncoded image file e-mailed to "repository";
ROM/EPROM chips sent by snail mail and returned. All
submissions should have as much info about the source computer as
possible (board revisions, date of manufacture, etc.)
>>Sounds good. The repository then is a "soft" repository of ROM images?
Yes. This way, we can transfer it, or burn it.
> 3. Requests & withdrawls: by e-mail to those with programmers; by mail for
those supplying their own chips; e-mail request with no chip
sent.
>> I assumed since the images are merely files they could be downloaded by
anyone requesting them. Is the repository also going to have physical EPROMS
that someone can request? If so, why?
THe only reason to have EPROMs available is for those who are incapable of
burning EPROMs them selves.
> 4. Cost: nominal (cost of postage and EPROM).
>> Is the repository also going to be in the business of supplying people
with pre-burnt EPROMS? If so then 3 makes more sense now.
Sure, why not. I don't think that there will be a huge demand, so the
repository will not keep pre-burned ROMs on hand.
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Rich Cini/WUGNET
- ClubWin Charter Member (6)
- MCPS Windows 95/Networking
At 01:07 PM 6/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
>> Anyone remember a trivial-pursuit-like Computer Trivia game? It was
>I have computer-based trivia game (shareware, I think) on a CD-ROM. I could
>dig it up, if anyone want it...it had pretty hard questions, which went
>'way back to the dawn of time (you know, like the 1950's :> ))
Actually, that does sound neat -- if you com across it, I'd love a copy.
However, the game I was thinking of was one that had cards and (I think) a
board, like trivpursuit. (I know my brother actually won a copy at the West
Coast Computer Faire, but he's an a$$h@le and we aren't in contact.)
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At 09:38 PM 6/25/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Unfortunately, it was a classic design at the time - a lot of people
>thought it looked like a dumb terminal (VT100).
An awful lot of people have painted pictures of pretty women... Still,
there's only one Mona Lisa.
Sometimes it just takes a slight modification to turn the ordinary into the
extraordinary. I still say the Lisa gets an out-of-the-park home run on
aesthetics.
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San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
[...]
> I love the internet, and I learned ALOT from it. sure a shell account with
> lynx is nice, as I use it for fast FTP, but when I read about a PDP11, it is
> nice to see a picture of one, rather just text.
Alternatively I could just pick up one of about 30 PDP11 manuals I have lying
about and not only see a picture of the outsides, but also see board layouts,
schematics, timing charts, microcode flowcharts, and other useful info
I've never found pictures of the outside of computers to be particularly
interesting. The useful diagrams (see above) are just as useful on a 1-bit-
per-pixel display.
> >3. What other apps are there that are REALLY useful for home use that
> >modern machines have and "home computers" don't? And is is really
>
> its not about apps, its about efficincy, and operator comfort. VGA or SVGA
OK, I'm using my (much hacked) PC/AT (true-blue IBM, and just about on-topic
here) at this moment. The display is a clone Hercules card driving that
Zenith monitor with the 'interesting' PSU. After I fixed the PSU and tweaked
the internal controls, I have an image _for text_ that's as sharp as any
cheap SVGA monitor I've ever seen. No eyestrain at all.
If you want colour, look at an old Barco (or Fimi, Philips, etc) monitor. Some
of those are very well focused and converged.
> is worth it becuse it prevents eyestrain, and you can use your system for
> longer amounts of time. I used color TV's before when I got started, and
> serious word processing was painful to the eyes. RGB's are better, but not
RGB simply means that the video signal is sent along 3 separate cables for
the 3 primary colours. Technically a VGA or SVGA monitor is an RGB monitor.
> all in all, if the machine you use now does all what you want, thats great!
> but the day WILL come where you just need to have a feature that you have
In which case I'll do what I've always done in the past when this happens. I'll
either find a classic machine that already has this feature or I'll build a
bit of hardware to add it to whatever machine I feel like.
> not got now. that is just the way the computing cookie crumbles.
>
-tony
>
Does anyone remember this machine :
it's a video game console (like the atari VCS) but which could sit on
a box which then converts it to a home computer.
The machine ran on a 6800 and had built-in basic.
It came out approx at the same time as the Atari 400/800 series
(78-79?)
I remember seeing an ad on it and the heading of the ad was
"imagination machine".
Ben
