I? would? love to have? focal 11 on paper? tape? too if? anyone can punch one up!? thx? ed#
In a message dated 3/4/2019 2:52:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
On 3/1/2019 12:50 PM, Rich Gopstein via cctalk wrote:> I just picked up a Remex paper tape reader from eBay and will be> interfacing it to my PiDP-11/Simh PDP-11 simulator shortly.> > I've been looking for an affordable punch, but haven't found one yet.? In> the meantime, does anyone know where I could get paper tapes with the> absolute loader and standalone basic?> > I don't need originals, so if anyone has a punch and is willing to punch> them for me, that would be great!? I'd be happy to pay whatever is> reasonable.? If you have any other PDP-11 tapes too, that would be helpful.> > Thanks.> > Rich>
I have some duplicates of what you have asked for, so I could probablyaccommodate you.? But not all that many, so they aren't free.? I*believe* (but would have to double check) that these are all actualDigital paper tapes I got with various machines, which increases the price.
I'd be willing to let them go for $20 each: feel free to pick andchoose.? If I have any that are just copies and not originals, those Iwould let go for $5 each.? Plus shipping (they ought to all fit in onesmall flat-rate box, assuming you are in the US).
If others can punch copies for you, so much the better.? (I have punchesthat worked when I first got them, but they need work.? Same goes for myreaders, unfortunately).
Some of the items below (PAL, EDT, LINK) might be pretty useless withouta paper tape punch.? ;)
I have a few others (IOX).? I have FPP (floating point package) - but noduplicates.
(Surprised that wasn't on the CHM bitsavers site...)
KIND??? ID??? MACHINE??? CONTENTS??? COMMENT??? Checksum??? Checksum 2??? FILENAME??? MFGSERIAL??? TRAY??? DATE??? AVAILABILI??? ERRORS??? PREVIOUS_C
PT??? DEC-11-AJPB-PB??? PDP-11??? PDP-11 BASIC V007A??? SA=16104 RA=0??? ??? ??
Digital??? ??? 55??? 11/5/1970??? ??? ??
PT??? DEC-11-LBSUA-A-PB??? PDP-11??? BASIC.LDA V008A SINGLE USER BASICREPLACES: DEC-11-AJPB-PB??? ??? ??? ??? Digital??? ??? 44??? 12/1/1972??? ??? ??
PT??? DEC-11-UABLA-A-PO??? PDP-11??? PDP-11 ABSOLUTE LOADER??? REPLACES:DEC-11-L2PC-P0??? ??? ??? uabla-a.rim??? Digital??? ??? 62??? 5/5/1977??? ??? ??
Absolute loader (no switch register)
PT??? DEC-11-UABLB-A-PO??? PDP-11??? ABSOLUTE LOADER VB07.00??? NON-SWITCHREGISTER VERSION??? ??? ??? ??? Digital??? ??? 36??? 12/5/1975??? ??? ??
PT??? DEC-11-UPLAA-A-PB??? PDP-11??? PAL-11A.LDA V007A??? REPLACES: DEC-11-ASXB-PBSA=1516 RA=1516??? ??? ??? ??? Digital??? ??? 39??? 11/3/1975??? ??? ??
PT??? DEC-11-UPLSA-A-PL??? PDP-11??? PAL-11S.LDA V003A??? REPLACES: DEC-11-ASQA-PLSA=2066 RA=2066??? ??? ??? ??? Digital??? ??? 42??? 12/1/1972??? ??? ??
PT??? DEC-11-UEDPA-A-PB??? PDP-11??? ED-11 V005A??? REPLACES: DEC-11-E1PA-PB??? ??? ??
Digital??? ??? 39??? 11/10/1975??? ??? ??
LINK-11S? V002A? (SA 22714)
PT??? DEC-11-ULKSA-A-PL??? PDP-11??? LINK-11S.LDA V002A??? REPLACES:DEC-11-ZLQA-PL??? ??? ??? ??? Digital??? ??? 41??? 12/1/1972??? ??? ??
PT??? DEC-11-UODPA-A-PB??? PDP-11??? ODT-11.LDA V005A RE-ENTER=13032??? REPLACES:DEC-11-O1PA-PB SA=13026 RA=.30??? ??? ??? ??? Digital??? ??? 44??? 12/1/1972??
PT??? DEC-11-Y1PA-PB??? PDP-11??? DUMPTT V001A??? SA=LOAD ADDRESS RA=LOADADDRESS??? ??? ??? ??? Digital??? ??? 43??? 11/10/1969??? ??
PT??? DEC-11-Y2PA-PO??? PDP-11??? DUMPAB V001A??? SA=XX7500 RA=XX7500??? ??? ??
Digital??? ??? 44??? 11/10/1969??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??
I just picked up a Remex paper tape reader from eBay and will be
interfacing it to my PiDP-11/Simh PDP-11 simulator shortly.
I've been looking for an affordable punch, but haven't found one yet. In
the meantime, does anyone know where I could get paper tapes with the
absolute loader and standalone basic?
I don't need originals, so if anyone has a punch and is willing to punch
them for me, that would be great! I'd be happy to pay whatever is
reasonable. If you have any other PDP-11 tapes too, that would be helpful.
> From: Jay Jaeger
> I have EK-11060-OP-003: "PDP-11/60 installation and operation manual"
> and an update EK-11060-OP-C1.
Yeah, that's the one I referred to as "the general -11/60 manual"; generally,
there's one such for all the -11 models, but the exact name varies from model
to model (unlike, say, the CPU tech manuals, the name for which is pretty
> let me know and I will scan it in and stick it on my Google drive in a
> day or two or three
That would be great; thanks very much! No rush at all...
> I also have a spare processor handbook, EB-06498-20/77
We do have that one, thanks.
BTW, looking a little more closely at the cabinet/power-supply manual
(pg. 1-7), the KD11-K TM might _only_ be available on fiche. If so, that'll be
the first time I've ever seen that. Oddly enough, further down the page, the
FP11-E TM seems to be available in printed form (EK-FP11E-TM).
> From: Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com>
> I've seen Tech Manuals printed as 2-up on C-sized paper
Yeah, generally things from the -11/20 era are like that (e.g. the RK11-C
manual). Nothing later than that that I've ever seen, though.
>>> I have the two BA11 cabinets for an 11/60, the PSUs, and the front
>>> panel (I'm missing the rack).
> "the rack" is just the outer box with rails (not an H960 - whatever the
> designation is for the odd 11/60 cabinet).
I think it's the H9500 low-boy corporate cabinet, per Chapter 5 in
the cabinet/power manual.
> The backplanes are in the BA11s. I seem to have both MOS and core
> memory and, I am fairly sure, an RK611, along with the CPU. I need to
> take a module inventory.
You seem to have most of the crucial bits, although you might be missing
the power harness.
Do you have the optional WCS module (M7870)? There are also ROM modules, and
a diagnostic module, that can go in that slot - only one of the three at a
On the off chance that someone on the list wants it and doesn't like the
idea of shipping, I'll be going to VCFMW in September and could bring it
along. My route will be Santa Barbara, Las Vegas, north to I-80, and
I-80 to the Chicago area. After that, I'll be headed to Pittsburgh, PA
and it can be dropped off along the way.
I can also head out to Goleta (basically Santa Barbara) and check out
what this person has.
>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 10:35 AM, Ray Arachelian via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>> On 03/03/19 12:58, Marvin Johnston via cctalk wrote:
>>> I just ran across this and while I'm not interested, someone on the
>>> list might be.
>>> It was posted about 14 days ago, and looks to be in Santa Barbara, CA.
>> That doesn't look like it's a Lisa, it may be a tempest hardened Mac 512.
> An interesting system. Someone needs to save this. Based on the description, and the way it looks, I think you?re right about it being designed for TEMPEST hardening. There were some TEMPEST versions of the Mac II.
I recently got one of these DECtalk-PC ISA cards from eBay (
https://www.ebay.com/itm/183684666377, no affiliation with seller other
than a happy customer) and was wondering, does anyone have a schematic for
We found a PDP-11 QBUS card cage with a KDF11 and some other cards (RAM,
ROM, some basic peripherals) which included a DSD-4140 card.
Unfortunately, the DSD-4140 is missing one of it's microcode PROMs for
Does anyone else have one of these cards? It'd be really helpful if we
could get some dumps of the 4 microcode PROMs so we can compare what we
have and look into replacing what we don't have with an adapted modern
part. (and if anyone goes to the trouble to read the 4 microcode PROMs,
there's also an 82S137 that deserves to be dumped).
Here's a picture of the card in question: https://i.imgur.com/tzYjPYF.jpg
On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 3:16 PM Glen Slick via cctalk
>On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 12:02 PM Joseph Zatarski via cctalk
><cctalk at classiccmp.org <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>> wrote:
>>//>>/On a somewhat related note, I don't suppose anybody knows or has />>/documentation on the pinout of the C/D interconnect on these RAM boards? />>/The pinout for the ribbon cable is in the manual, but the C/D />>/interconnect doesn't seem to be documented in any of the manuals that />>/are online. />
>650QS Field Maintenance Print Set, MP-02538-01, Rev C1
>Page 65 of the PDF, KA650 Circuit Schematics Page 23 of 40
>MA0 - MA9
>CAS0 - CAS3
>RAS0 - RAS3
>Page 47 of the PDF, Page 5 of 40 is an overview block diagram of those
>signals originating at the DC357 CMCTL Memory System Controller.
OK, thanks, that's great. Now I won't have to bother tracing things out if I decide to go that route. Didn't realize there was a printset for the KA650, but I guess I didn't even bother to check.
I've got a KA650 with a MS650-AA 8MB memory module. When we initially
started messing with this VAX, it was giving a memory error. We were
able to track down first the bad bank, and later the individual bad ZIP
RAMs with the help of my logic analyzer. For now, I kludged an SOJ DRAM
in there that seems to be working without issue. The machine no longer
gives memory errors during POST, but if you run one of the more thorough
memory tests like #48 (MEM_Addr_shrts), it fails. My initial thought was
that this RAM test checks for shorted address lines, which would cause
writing to one location to change another location perhaps. However, I
haven't been able to replicate the error with DEPOSITs and EXAMINEs on
Without having to disassemble the VAX ROM, does anybody know what this
test does? Once I know what I'm looking for, I can probably convince the
logic analyzer to see the error with some fancy triggering, and get this
board 100% fixed before I order some ZIP DRAMs.
On a somewhat related note, I don't suppose anybody knows or has
documentation on the pinout of the C/D interconnect on these RAM boards?
The pinout for the ribbon cable is in the manual, but the C/D
interconnect doesn't seem to be documented in any of the manuals that
are online. With the price of MS650's these days, it seems like the
cheaper route (albeit more work) is to build a new RAM board rather than
buy one (especially if a single 64MB board could be made). I suspect
it's not too complex anyway, and it can probably mostly be traced out,
and the rest inferred and then verified with a logic analyzer.